Talk:Pokémon Scarlet and Violet

Moved setting subsection to be under gameplay instead of plot

I moved the setting subsection to be under gameplay instead of plot because I feel that the setting affects the gameplay more than the plot. I know that MOS:VIDEOGAME says that setting should be under the plot section, but it also states that the article doesn't need to comply to its recommended format if it is believed that the article would be better if it did not. If anyone objects this change feel free to revert it. – Treetoes023 (talk) 03:49, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

American or British English?

Why is this article even written in British English? RMXY (talk) 02:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

I think it would be more appropriate to standardize spellings along the more commonly accepted spelling of the words. I have edited installments to reflect the more readable option for the most Wikipedia users, but outside of this the rest of the article stands? Can you elaborate on the discrepancies you see? 2600:387:B:7:0:0:0:B0 (talk) 19:13, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=installment,instalment

A better point of reference for the installment,instalment conversation. Please prioritize readability in word choices! 2600:387:B:7:0:0:0:B0 (talk) 19:38, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Please read WP:ENGVAR. American English is hardly the standard form of English. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{blaze__wolf} 20:34, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Nemona in Wikipedia

Hey, guys, I made an article on Wikipedia for Nemona.

Here's the link Draft:Nemona. Starkiryu64 (talk) 07:11, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello Starkiryu64. Firstly: the draft is only one sentence long. Secondly: if you would expand it and move it to the main space, it would be deleted, because it lacks sufficient notability. At Bulbapedia, such content is welcome though. 😉 Cheers, Manifestation (talk) 09:40, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Seeking consensus on English across all Pokemon game articles.

I propose that we standardize the existing nine generations to American English. It is a bit jarring to see that Generation 1-7 articles are written in American English, while Generation 8 is a mix of British and American, and Gen 9 is British.

Separate from the Manual of Style, I believe consistency is a valid reason to align these articles. Tom.berryx (talk) 20:42, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Given the majority of the articles are in American English, it should probably be standardized to American for simplicity's sake, but I admittedly don't mind either way what the outcome of this discussion is. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 03:10, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I think the idea behind Sword/Shield being British English was probably because the game's setting was based on the U.K., but I agree that Scarlet/Violet especially should probably be in American English if we're striving for cross-series standardization. DecafPotato (talk) 03:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

I thought Pokémon Violet was released in 2023, not 2022. I play it sometimes and I believe it was released in 2023. Am I wrong? Yuanmongolempiredynasty (talk) 12:48, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

@Yuanmongolempiredynasty it released in 2022. Late 2022 (November), granted, but still in 2022. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 14:04, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

as is, the games generally use unitedstatesian english, but gen 8 uses englandian english. using yeehaw english for most articles and crumpet english for swsh seems like the way to go cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:17, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

+1. I'd say we use British English for Gen 8, and American English for the rest. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:13, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

I'd assume we're at a consensus for American English? I ask primarily because the article's GA review is currently active, and it's best to resolve anything that would cause a sweeping change as soon as possible. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 02:20, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

yeah, american unovan english for most articles, british galarian english for swsh specifically (and i guess its pokémon) cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 11:11, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Pokémon Scarlet and Violet/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 13:09, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: OlifanofmrTennant (talk · contribs) 02:00, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Been wanting to pick this up for a while but didnt because I haddent finished the game yet. So glad the GA backlog is more powerful then my lack of skill. At a first glance it looks not just good but good enough. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 02:00, 6 December 2024 (UTC

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): In the side table for the games scores anything that rates the game out of ten uses numbers instead of stars with the exception of Nintendo Life. Any reason? The line "Parent company Nintendo attempted to takedown many of these leaks, but other accounts reposted the information taken down" reads a little oddly. Is it worth linking both DLC given that the redirect to The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero which is linked immediately before "though is forced by its programming" -> "though its programming forces it" MOS:TENSE It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): Ref 41 change source to The Pokemon Company and also link for consistency Ref 42 link CNET for consistency Ref 25 link 4Gamer.net for consistency Ref 79 link Men's Journal for consistency Ref 97 link The Daily Telegraph for consistency Ref 125 link Oricon News for consistency Reliability of a few sources It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: only one minor issue about a different page which. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions): Everything is tagged appropriately With the only avalible image of Toby Fox being the one in the article. I question if its worth including an image of Fox
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Answers

On a few of your points:

-Nintendo Life uses the stars I believe because it's the only out of ten scale explicitly using stars. Admittedly unsure if there's a policy regarding the usage of stars over numbers or not depending on the outlet.

-Does "Parent company Nintendo attempted to takedown many of these leaks, but other accounts reposted the information after it was taken down." read better?

-Linked the specific expansions just in case readers were unfamiliar with the two DLCs, as it would allow them an easy link to either one in case they confused names or something similar. Can remove this if you feel it necessary.

-I included the image of Fox since I figured any form of identification was better than none. It seemed odd to me not to use it given it's the only one we have and we don't need to be too concerned with a "primary" identifier here, unlike at Fox's main article. There have been BLPs using lower quality images than that one.

-Addressing your concern on stability that you mentioned in the edit history: the stability criteria states that " it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute." The actual page content has not been changing day to day, and no edit warring has occurred, as a result of the discussion on the talk page. The changes it asks aren't too egregious, and support for American English seems unanimous as of now. I've left a message to double check the status of it so I can resolve it sooner, but I do believe this discussion is irrelevant to the stability criteria and would not result in a significant quality decrease if it did go through. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 02:32, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Great! Also the last bit was a joke Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:48, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Could you explain the reliability of the following sources?

• Nintendo World Report
• 4p.de
• Gaming Intel
• RPGFan

@Pokelego999: a few more notes should be done with the page by tomorrow Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 02:45, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

@OlifanofmrTennant Nintendo World Report, 4players, and RPGFan are considered reliable per Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources. I missed Gaming Intel during editing but at a glance seems reliable-ish, but it being outside the coverage area for this article makes me hesitant. I've replaced it with a Nintendo Life source reiterating the exact same info. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 02:53, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

@OlifanofmrTennant fixed the linking issues in the requested areas Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 19:30, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Checked 15 sources at random. Found nothing else. Good job Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:26, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

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Ed Sheeran as seen in 2018

• ... that the 2022 video games Pokémon Scarlet and Violet's ending credits music, "Celestial", was made by English singer-songwriter Ed Sheeran (pictured), and is the first song in the series to have lyrics?

• Source: https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-scarlet-violet-ed-sheerans-song-celestial/

"Ed Sheeran's new song Celestial will apparently feature somewhere in the game... Celestial will be the first song included in a Pokemon game that actually has lyrics."

https://www.rpgfan.com/music-review/nintendo-switch-pokemon-scarlet%E3%83%BBviolet-the-hidden-treasure-of-area-zero-super-music-collection/

"I wasn’t expecting the Ed Sheeran single that plays during the end credits to be on this OST."

• ALT1: ... that due to performance issues at launch in the 2022 video games Pokémon Scarlet and Violet, the games became the lowest rated mainline entries in the franchise's history?

• Source: https://kotaku.com/pokemon-scarlet-violet-broken-bugs-refund-patch-1849814765

"The flaws are seemingly endless, impacting gameplay so much that Scarlet and Violet have become the worst-reviewed games in the series."

• Reviewed:
• Comment: Ed Sheeran image is only for if the first hook is used.

Improved to Good Article status by Pokelego999 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 00:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC).

• Everything seems to be in order. GA was on the 7th, article is long enough and appropriately sourced. It looks like some of the images are yours—why aren't we using this gem?—and are good to go. Hook is fascinating enough and the picture of Mr. Sheeran, while haunting, is good at 100px. Overall, great job! ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:29, 9 December 2024 (UTC)