Talk:Patrick Wolff

Youtube as a reference

There are very limited situations where Youtube can or should be used as a reliable source - especially in a BLP article. As such I have removed the links. If you believe that this is one of the cases wherein the youtube videos should be used as a reliable source, please run it by the reliable sources noticeboard before you add the links back in to the article. --Jezebel'sPonyo^shhh 18:06, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I've added a link to a reliable source for the game. I think that linking to the YouTube video also is OK. If you don't want it as a source then put the YouTube link in external links. Bubba73 ^{(You talkin' to me?)}, 18:13, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I think it's best that it's run by the reliable sources noticboard just to make sure. I would have appreciated if User:Shotcallerballerballer had attempted to discuss it here as opposed to simply adding the links back in, I think it's best to have the noticeboard stamp of approval on the necessity of using the Youtube links as references in this instance. I've asked for additional opinions here. --Jezebel'sPonyo^shhh 14:49, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

The chess project WP:CHESS decided long ago that chessgames.com is a reliable source for games. There are hundreds of links from chess articles to ChessGames.com. Bubba73 ^{(You talkin' to me?)}, 14:53, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

The Youtube videos, on the other hand are not reliable. They are posted by an annonomous source (why should we trust "duckgeezer"). We have no way of knowing if the video was manipulated or staged. In addition to the reliability question, we also must consider WP:COPYRIGHT... did "duckgeezer" had any right to post this video to Youtube. If not, we could be violating the law by linking to it. Blueboar (talk) 15:07, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

I fully agree, and thanks to Bubba73 for adding an alternative link for verifiability. --Jezebel'sPonyo^shhh 15:32, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

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"Over the past several years"

This really doesn't seem to be an informative phrase, as the reader has no way of knowing when it was written, if it's still true, or how many "several" is. We should really give the actual years.-Zzedar (talk) 15:50, 27 May 2018 (UTC)