Talk:PSL (rifle)

Factory in Cugir

The Cugir factory is located in Cugir! I've been there.

Text is just pasted from the GunJunkie site

http://www.gunjunkie.net/index.php/Armory/Romanian-PSL-ROMAKIII-SSG-97-PSL-54.html

PSL is an another SVD clone, built to fit Romanian industry practices (not simplified, just to better fit machinery and logistics).

Thebiggestmac (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC).

No it's not, it functions like an AK, not an SVD, though the tactical use is the same. --Ayceman (talk) 23:11, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

This article needs to be cleaned up.

Most of the text is uncited and unsubstantiated. Some examples "With some simple instruction an average individual can be issued a PSL and successfully engage targets at ranges that far exceed the accurate capabilities of non-scoped assault rifles like the AKM, AK-47, etc." "Accuracy varies greatly, however, between individual rifles to a greater extent to other rifles in its class, probably due to insufficient quality control during the manufacturing process." "In the hands of a capable shooter and with quality ammunition such as 7N1 and 7N14 a PSL is capable of 1 Minute of arc (approximately 1" at 100 yards) or less while the rifles on the other end of the spectrum are only capable of about 3 MOA." "The butt stock is much shorter than most Western shooters are used to. This is because Romanian soldiers often operate in very cold climates and wear thick winter coats while operating."

Where are the sources for these? Without citations, the article sounds like the ramblings of a firearms enthusiast.

"The action, being a variant of the AKM's, is extremely reliable despite lack of maintenance, and is particularly forgiving of sand and other debris." This also seems to be written by someone making assumptions from what is generally said about the AK. People who actually use the PSL would know that there are inherent reliability problems with the feed ramps and magazines. That's total BS! The mags work fine and the feed ramp do as well!

  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.224.254.34 (talk) 18:29, 27 July 2011 (UTC) 

The Overview and Usage sections seem to both contain information that can be merged, with technical data separated under Design Details — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.224.254.34 (talk) 18:11, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Users

Since the weapon was exported, it would be nice to have a list of armed forces equiped with the weapon. 188.25.39.87 (talk) 19:10, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Well I'm pretty sure the North Korean Special Ops Use it (among others), if you actually want to know, if your saying this on principle, continue about your day I guess.Yolo McSwagginz93 (talk) 20:59, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Questionable article introduction technical details

The introduction to this article states "Though similar in appearance, mission, and specifications to the SVD Dragunov, the PSL rifle is, mechanically speaking, completely different as it is based on the AKM assault rifle - with its internals simply being scaled up to accommodate the more powerful 7.62×54mmR cartridge."

There are some problems with this:
1. The SVD is chambered for the 7.62x54mmR cartridge.
2. The AKM is chambered for the 7.62x39mm cartridge.

If the PSL is "mechanically speaking, completely different" (to the SVD), it cannot be chambered for the 7.62x54mmR cartridge.
If it is "based on the AKM assault rifle", it will use the 7.62x39mm cartridge.

Both of these statements cannot be true. 176.25.111.24 (talk) 11:03, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Cugir

"PSL rifles were originally made at the Uzina Mecanică Cugir in Cugir (English pronounced Koogeer)" That doesn't tell us if it's a hard or soft g. S C Cheese (talk) 21:21, 28 March 2023 (UTC)