Talk:Lymphatic system
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Could explain lymphatic basin
editOther articles use lymphatic basin or lymph node basin but it's not defined here. Is the basin a cluster of lymph nodes or the region of the body drained through said cluster ? - Rod57 (talk) 12:59, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Part of the circulatory system?
editI'm confused by the opening, which says firstly that the lymphatic system is part of the circulatory system then follows it up by saying 'unlike the circulatory system, the lymphatic system is not a close system'. I can see that it's possible for x to have characteristic y but a particular component of x not to have that characteristic in itself, but I'm not given the impression that that is the intended meaning, I'm given the impression that contradictory statements are in close proximity, possibly due to confused terminology. Scatterkeir (talk) 12:06, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Immature T cells?
edit"The region of the lymph node called the paracortex immediately surrounds the medulla. Unlike the cortex, which has mostly immature T cells, or thymocytes, the paracortex has a mixture of immature and mature T cells. Lymphocytes enter the lymph nodes through specialized high endothelial venules found in the paracortex."
I think there is confusion between cortex/medulla of thymus and cortex/medulla of lymph node. Thymocytes migrate from cortex to medulla during T cell development in the thymus and are not found circulating in peripheral lymphoid tissue.
2607:FEA8:87E0:F41:24FB:A4F1:13A1:4A0 (talk) 21:43, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
Sources for future article expansion
edit(a) Alexander Monro Secundus/Junior was important but it's simply mistaken to throw all the credit to him the way the current article does. The lymphatic system was popularized by a feud between Monro and Hunter over priority that ended up discovering that Francis Glisson had already figured it out and published a century earlier. (Currently Wiki's coverage of all of this is so bad that the lymph system is only mentioned on Hunter's brother's page and omitted entirely from Glisson's stub.)
- Ambrose, Charles T. (January 2007), "The Priority Dispute over the Function of the Lymphatic System and Glisson's Ghost (The 18th-Century Hunter–Monro Feud)", Cellular Immunology, vol. 245, pp. 7–15, doi:10.1016/j.cellimm.2007.02.015.
See also here
- Hendriksen, Marieke M.A. (October 2015), "Anatomical Mercury: Changing Understandings of Quicksilver, Blood, and the Lymphatic System, 1650–1800" (PDF), Journal of the History of Medicine and Allied Sciences, vol. 70, Oxford: Oxford University Press, pp. 516–548.
which goes into much more detail (b) about how mercury was essential to the studies and experiments that established the basic location and functions of the lymphatic system.
Finally, (c) some other sources give priority not to Glisson but to a guy named Hoffmann. We should figure out if that's true and then mention and link him if it turns out he was a few years ahead of Glisson. — LlywelynII 20:31, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Also:
- Natale, Gianfranco; et al. (September 2017), "Scholars and Scientists in the History of the Lymphatic System", Journal of Anatomy, vol. 231, pp. 417–429, doi:10.1111/joa.12644, PMID 28614587.
- Ribatti, Domenico; et al. (2010), "The Embryonic Origins of Lymphatic Vessels: An Historical Review", British Journal of Haematology, Blackwell Publishing, pp. 669–674, doi:10.1111/j.1365-2141.2009.08053.x.
Vertebrates in general or human-specific?
editThe introduction tells us the article is about anatomy for vertebrates in general but the rest of the article frequently ends up talking about human anatomy without letting the reader know that a shift has occured. I suspect many editors naturally have a focus on human anatomy and lose the general viewpoint required to prevent that shift being made implicitly. I think the best approach would be to write the article so it applies to all vertebrates, using human anatomy only for examples. It would be great to get a review by someone knowledgeable in this topic as it applies to vertebrates in general. Jojalozzo (talk) 02:06, 31 January 2024 (UTC)