Talk:Luis Garavito

Prison time

I removed the previous mention of his prison time being 875 years because its absolutely made up. I added the paragraph explaining the real prison time which is 22 years and the reasons behind it. I dont know if the part about us colombians being angry at such short time can be considered "original research" because I dont have sources for that one, but I think is obvious we are not happy to see that the bastard can get out in mere two decades. feel free to edit the paragraph for any grammar mistakes, Im still trying to write properly in english with an encyclopedic writting. Mantidor 07:59, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Well there are murders he wasn't convicted of yet so I wonder why they can't try him for those to avoid having to let him go? --24.177.0.156 (talk) 17:11, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Him being in jail isn’t protecting Colombia from him, it’s protecting him from the rest of Colombia. I don’t expect he’ll have a long life expectancy if he stays in the country. 2601:87:4400:AF2:F853:5EA1:DD35:549C (talk) 10:02, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

No references

No references, tag added.--FloNight 00:43, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Some comments

In fact Luis Alfredo Garavito was sentenced to 1.853 years and 9 days, according to the "fiscalia" report which can be found here: Reporte de la Fiscalia.

I think your article is good although it lacks A LOT of information.

I'd add some background about the guy (which can be found in the report from la fiscalia). I'd also mention that he'll probably be free in about 7 years (around 2013) because of our "great" legal system. And that Colombian people are angry at this situation, which is expressed by tons of mail on Internet asking to do something about it. However, it seems that there is no organized process for asking the government to do something about it.

I'd also mention that there was a TV special done by local presenter "Pirry" about the killer. In this interview, Pirry talked to the guy on camera and he expressed remorse about killing the children and also expressed his plans for a political career in the future to help abused children. This has generated outrage in the community as people think this guy should be fried for what he did, or at least, he should never be allowed to roam free.

BTW, he's dubbed the Beast (La Bestia).

--Hlasso 17:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

If it makes you feel any better, he won't last long on the outside. Parents are touchy about this sort of thing, and some father will hunt him down. Unfortunately that father will do time also, probably 10 years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.48.16.180 (talk) 04:38, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

His name

The introduction says "Luis Garavito, aka. Luis Alfredo Garavito Cubillos", the text below the image says "Luis Fernando Garavito". So, what's his name? Entheta 19:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

It was a mistake. The name has been modified Hlasso 14:13, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

What about Alfredo? That name is included in the title of both the German and the Spanish Wikipedia article. Entheta 16:21, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

That is correct. His complete name is: Luis Alfredo Garavito Cubillos. Although the article name is Luis Garavito, if you search for "Luis Alfredo Garavito" you'll be redirected here. Hlasso 21:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Redundancy

Is it just me, or does the second half of this article merely repeat the first half, practically word-for-word? There may be more "meat-and-potatoes" in the second half, but by the time I read it, I already knew a lot of the information, because I had just read it 10 seconds earlier.

Magnet For Knowledge (talk) 01:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

This is exactly what I was going to say. Xprivate eyex (talk) 11:27, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

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Expansion

This article is way too short in respects to its subject. Considering Luis Garavito's body count there should be WAY more information on him that what currently is. More information on Garavito's history, murders, and victims needs to be added with important citations for each piece of information added.--Paleface Jack (talk) 21:52, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Removing Unverified Information

The first section claims, "According to the Attorney General's Office and various judicial bodies, Luis Alfredo Garavito is the "second serial killer of the world."" There is no source cited for the assertion, and Garavito is clearly the most prolific serial killers in the recorded history in terms of the number of confirmed victims. Which "judicial bodies" have called him a "second serial killer of the world" is left undisclosed. Also, what does "second serial killer of the world" even mean? The claim is unsubstantiated, and for that reason I am deleting the said text. If someone has any credible sources to cite, feel free to restore the deleted portion as quoted above. HemRaj Singh (talk) 09:09, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Regarding whether Garavito is the world's worst serial killer or not

According to a New York Times articles the Guinness Book of World Records places Garavito below Pedro Lopez in terms of victims, but the number of confirmed victims of Garavito is higher, which is why Garavito tops the Wikipedia list with Lopez at number two. Furthermore, the number of confirmed victims is a more dependable criterion than the number of claimed victims, for the latter remains unverified and claims are not facts. I have made the changes to the top section accordingly and have cited sources for the changes made. HemRaj Singh (talk) 11:39, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Completely inaccurate information regarding Garavito's early life

Though there has been some rather accurate editings in regard to the life of Garavito, his early life is rather inaccurate. Someone had ascribed the early life of Pedro López to Garavito's early life. Garavito was indeed abused by the clients of his mother, and was indeed beaten by his father Manuel, but he was not lured by a child abuser at the age of 8, nor did he become a homeless orphan to survive on the streets. He grew up in Valle del Cauca and attended Simon Bolivar school in Ceilan. The bit about robbing Colombian civilians to survive and joining a "gamine" gang of children is straight up from Lopez's childhood. I don't even know how this ended up on the article for so long...

--Edd Wesson (talk) 22:05, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

An absurd article

Relentlessly bad writing. Information repeated endlessly. Bad grammar. Events out of order over and over. Tedious in the extreme.

On the other hand, the subject of the article is a despicable human being. I'm not terribly inclined to improve an article about someone of this low caliber. Then again, removing all the repeated information might trim the article down to the tiny couple of paragraphs that the subject is barely worthy of. So much space given to the perpetrator, and barely a single victim can be named.

So maybe I will give it a go at some point. It's a coin toss though. Anastrophe (talk) 07:23, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Citations

I took a quick look at this article, although it is looking pretty good, its still under sourced and really needs to have additional citations from reliable sources added. There are tons of articles, publications, and books out there that mention Garavito and those should be cited here. It will take some time but its necessary. Paleface Jack (talk) 16:02, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Disturbing details in modus operandi

The section Modus Operandi is really disturbing for the average reader. Maybe it's better to leave such specific details in the reference and not have them here since it's supposed to feel like a safe space. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.66.150.92 (talk) 19:32, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

"[...]it's supposed to feel like a safe space." According to whom? Wikipedia is not censored. We also don't give 'trigger warnings'. This is an encyclopedia. If you are reading this article about a serial molester and murderer, you already know the subject matter is not going to be "fun". Wikipedia is in no way, shape, or form 'supposed to feel like a safe space'. You are free to stop reading at any time. Anastrophe (talk) 06:37, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Possibility of parole

It says in the article that Garavito will be eligible for parole in 2023. It's 2023 now, does anyone know of any sources that state the exact date of eligibility? Comitialbulb561 (talk) 21:43, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

He came out of prison already

He’s out of prison already, free man 2603:8000:BC45:1633:4850:24C6:2602:BFE7 (talk) 05:34, 6 October 2023 (UTC)