Talk:List of music considered the worst
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Thick of it - KSI ft. Triple Redd
editThere are many sources citing its negative reception on the page for it. It has received overwhelmingly negative reception from both fellow musical artists, general public, and industry professionals, largely due to KSI's already controversial image in addition to Lunchly, Prime, pump and dump scams, his one way "feud" with DanTDM, and his relations with MrBeast and the Pauls.
Mr. Beast's Many Controversies Explained | Lifehacker
KSI Challenges Jake Paul To A Fight After His New Song Gets Roasted
KSI faces backlash over new single "Thick of It" amidst growing criticism: Details inside
Why Does Everyone Hate "Thick of It" by KSI?
However, none of these articles use language such as "the worst" or "worst ever." Does it still quality for this list, or is this list just as strict as the worst films of all time list? On that list, an entry has to go through multiple barriers, and sources need to specifically use language such as "the worst ever" to even be considered. Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 20:56, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- The inclusion criteria require a reliable source calling it the worst, yes. Sergecross73 msg me 21:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clarification. So, this list is like the film one in which sources have to use language such as "the worst" or "worst ever" in order to be considered, and overwhelmingly negative reception or anti-awards are not enough. Unlike the worst video games and TV lists which just require sources citing its overwhelmingly negative reception or impact on the producers. Should an editor's note be added such as "Do not add Thick of It, as it is not widely considered to be one of the worst songs ever?" Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 23:07, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's probably premature to add that, it has t really been much of an issue so far. Sergecross73 msg me 02:50, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- I still think it should be added given the high amount of sources supporting its negative reception. LordOfWalruses (talk) 17:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- This list has strict and specific criteria like the worst films of all-time list. Simply being universally hated is not enough, multiple Wikipedia trusted sources need to refer to Thick of It as "the worst" or "worst song of all time." Unlike the worst TV or video games lists where multiple sources citing how negatively the series or video games were received is enough for inclusion. Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 17:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- I still think it should be added given the high amount of sources supporting its negative reception. LordOfWalruses (talk) 17:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's probably premature to add that, it has t really been much of an issue so far. Sergecross73 msg me 02:50, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clarification. So, this list is like the film one in which sources have to use language such as "the worst" or "worst ever" in order to be considered, and overwhelmingly negative reception or anti-awards are not enough. Unlike the worst video games and TV lists which just require sources citing its overwhelmingly negative reception or impact on the producers. Should an editor's note be added such as "Do not add Thick of It, as it is not widely considered to be one of the worst songs ever?" Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 23:07, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Rednex - Cotton Eye Joe
editSo I've been digging through sources included and not included in this list, and I believe Cotton Eye Joe might qualify for the list. Here's the sources I've found:
Blender has it ranked at #38 in their top 50 worst songs list.
Ranked at 13th place in Rolling Stone's poll of the all-time "20 Most Annoying Songs".
Toronto Star declared it to be the worst song of the 90s.
LA Weekly ranked it at #3 in their "Worst Electronic Dance Tracks Before the Rise of EDM" list.
NME featured it in their "32 of the Very Worst UK Number One Singles of All Time" list.
CBS News ranked it #1 in their "Top 10 Worst Songs From 'Jock Jams'" list.
Complex featured it in their "10 Songs That Gave Dance Music a Bad Name" list.
Let me know what you guys think. -Seewater514 (talk) 23:00, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Every entry needs at least one source that deems it the worst in some capacity. I don't think the Toronto Star source actually calls it worst, the list appears to be unranked. The only one that satisfies that criteria is CBS calling it the worst jock jam ever. It's not the strongest claim, but I think it technically qualifies through that. Sergecross73 msg me 14:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, while Toronto Star's list is unranked, it was still deemed by one of their music experts to be the worst song of the 90s in its entry on the list. This is what they had to say: "Led by an infernal fiddle and incessant Eurodance synth, Rednex’s electronic bastardization of the folk classic “Cotton-Eyed Joe” is the worst song of the ’90s. At least with songs like “Barbie World” or “Ice Ice Baby” you get a pleasurable earworm hook to help wash the verses down." -Seewater514 (talk) 07:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Karma - JoJo Siwa
editI think we should add Karma by JoJo Siwa. This song has been relentlessly mocked, panned, and sits at over 3 million dislikes on YouTube.
https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/jojo-siwa-celebrates-karma-youtube-dislikes-1235735722/ YoungArtist79 (talk) 19:50, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- The inclusion criteria requires a reliable source stating it to be "the worst" in some capacity. Do you have that? Sergecross73 msg me 19:52, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- https://variety.com/lists/worst-songs-2024/
- https://rateyourmusic.com/release/single/jojo-siwa/karma/ YoungArtist79 (talk) 22:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- We can't use RYM due to WP:RATEYOURMUSIC (it fails WP:USERG).
- Variety is a usable source in a general sense, but its a pretty weak argument. It wasn't deemed the worst song of 2024, it merely made an unranked 15 song list, and its list entry says very little on it... Sergecross73 msg me 16:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)