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I moved the external link to the Balatonfüred town Web site to the Balatonfüred article. —Tkinias 20:23, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)

• Added infobox; this lake is now part of the WP:LAKES. Some of the figures were changed to reflect data from The World Lakes database. If you dispute any of my changes, please be welcome to make your own edits - just remember to post your sources :D Em3rald 20:32, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

The trivia

Hungarian goverment has started a campaign of promoting Balaton as a holiday place for young people. There is a controversive promotial cartoon on official Balaton tourist page. It contains a man who meets a young blonde girl and has sex with her on a boat while hiding his wedding ring - the animation is uploaded to a free web place provider of Hungary, to [1]. Does "to have sex" meets the Wikipedia quality standars? - I don't think so. What do you think? Removable? Cserlajos 19:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

The weather

The article says that the weather of the lake is Mediterranean. Although it is usually hot in Hungary these days I would still not call it Mediterranean. 1 Sept 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.0.187.189 (talk) 01:03, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

You should mention the joke that Ballaton is also called as "Europe's biggest puddle". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.254.212.236 (talk) 13:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Ha, ha, this sentence doesn't make a sense: "The Mediterranean climate...". The climate around the lake cannot be Mediterranean, because, 1st: It's in the middle of the Panonian Plane with typical continental climate, 2nd: Although the climate might be milder compared to other parts of Hungary, it's far from being Mediterranean. To be in the Mediterranean climate zone includes to have Avg. Jan. more than 3 degrees C, The Avg. Jul. more than 22 degrees C, The absolute minimum cannot be less than -14 to -15 drgrees C, and 3.: The lake water shouldn't freeze every winter, but just once in a while. According to climate data from 'worldclimate', these factors don't apply for this lake's region. (Avge Jan= 0-1 C degree, Absolute min= around -20 degrees, it freezes almost every winter, etc.) And, by the way, the vineyards can be grown in moderate (temperate) continental climate, not just in Mediterranean. Regards;173.183.96.125 (talk) 19:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Advertisement?

I think this article reads too much like an advertisement (if it would be more appropriate to add a tag to that amount to the article itself than mention this on the discussion page, sorry, i have seen this, but i am new to this and do not know how to add such a tag). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.151.40.2 (talk) 01:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

It is said that Beethoven was inspired to write the Moonlight Sonata while visiting Lake Balaton, the name originating from the "moon bridges" cast by the moon over the lake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.198.61.198 (talk) 19:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Correction

From a version of the article I have since corrected: "The Romans called the lake Lacus Pelso, that is to say shallow lake in the Latin language."

---Actually, "Pelso" is not a word in the Latin language. "Pelso" was from a local ancient language, usually considered to have been the Illyrian language. It is inferred to have meant "shallow" in Illyrian, not in Latin. See the article Illyrian languages for references. A from L.A. (talk) 16:36, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

doubtful

I find it hard to believe that secondary radiation from the lake doubles the solar radiation of the region. This needs a reference, minimum, but I don't believe itCarptracker (talk) 16:36, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I will take a look here, as I already cleared it up somewhat, but obviously not enough. I think it was meant as a general point that the lake acts as a mirror so that the light gets reflected back rather than be absorbed by the ground directly, but is put rather clumsily. If I recall, I tried to avoid the term radiation altogether, as in a previous version it had the kinda "oh no we are being all gonna be nuked" connotation of radiation. I obviously didn't get it quite right. Si Trew (talk) 23:21, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I've changed it to: "The lake, acting as a mirror, greatly increases the amount of sunlight that the grapevines of the region receive", and added CN. One problem with translation sometimes is one language kinda "blocks" the other – usually, which may seem perverse, it's one's native language that gets blocked, whereas one might expect the reverse. I didn't originally translate this, but tried to simplify it, but not very well. I'll check tomorrow with my partner, a native Hungarian speaker, to see if we can find a better ref for this. Si Trew (talk) 23:26, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

BTW Lake effects do change climates quite considerably. Try living in Hamilton, Ontario then on the other, western side of the lake. Balaton is rather a tiddler compared to the Great Lakes but I can imagine it will have a noticeable effect. Doubling is without doubt an exaggeration, though, unless we abandon the second law of thermodynamics. Si Trew (talk) 23:32, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

German toponym

"The German name for the lake is Plattensee.[11] It is unlikely that the Germans named the lake so for being shallow since the adjective platt is a Greek loanword that was borrowed via French and entered the general German vocabulary in the 17th century.[12][13] It is also noteworthy that the average depth of Balaton (3.2m)[14] is not extraordinary for the area (cf. the average depth of the neighbouring Neusiedler See, which is roughly 1m).[15]"

German-speaking peoples have surely known of this lake from times antedating the Magyar conquest of western Hungary. It is more likely that Platten(see) is a derivative of the old Slavic name for the lake, with the initial "b" mutating into an initial "p" as archaic German gave way to Old High German as used in Austria. It is not from Hungarian, which places the accent on the first syllable of Balaton. Germanic languages tend to strengthen accented syllables and weaken or even lose others. Pbrower2a (talk) 17:06, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Do you have some reliable sources which claim this? KœrteFa {ταλκ} 18:06, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

"A Balaton"

The lake is never referred to as "a Balaton" in Hungary, only as "the Balaton". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.216.17 (talk) 21:13, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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The map should be fixed

In the map (File:Location_of_Balaton.PNG), the area around Budapest is blank. It should be green just like other places, otherwise it looks like a big lake..--fireattack (talk) 03:23, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

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Oil production

Isn't there oil production in the area? I believe that the point of the final German counter-attack in 1945 was to regain access to the very last oil production in German hands.

Seki1949 (talk) 07:35, 8 December 2021 (UTC)