Talk:Kythnos

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I added a little on some of the other growing settlements on the island. Kathy S 17:23, 21 March 2006 (UTC)Kathy S.

I believe the next step is to add citations. Reputable online sources are easiest to cite, but text sources may also be incorporated. Wikipedia:Citations#How_to_cite_sources. Is there any way I could help out with that? Argyrios 03:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

'Tourist brochure' style

This often reads like a tourist brochure rather than a Wikipedia article. The fact that many of Merichas's 300-400 people 'speak at least some English' may be reassuring to the type of American or British readers who expect everyone else to learn their language, but is surely irrelevant here - for that matter, equivalent information could be given about every single place in the world. A similar piece of information is 'Still, the island has not yet been overdeveloped...', which is a terribly subjective judgement. Having visited Kythnos back in the days when tourism was minimal, I'm sure I'd now find it's been ruined - but I wouldn't expect that information to appear in such an article either. The use of the word 'Still,...' also strikes me as unnecessarily chatty, as if the writer is having a face-to-face conversation with a fellow tourist over a couple of ouzos. The effect of all this - at least on me! - is to make the whole article seem unreliable.213.127.210.95 (talk) 13:31, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Obsolete (katharévousa) spellings of Greek place names

A general comment here on Wikipedia articles about Greece (and perhaps also Cyprus). The name of the village Dryopída (which is how it appears in the link) is given here as 'Dryopís or Dryopída' - which is misleading, for it wrongly suggests that the names are interchangeable alternatives. The real situation is as follows. Until 1977 there were two distinct forms of the Greek language: 'dhimotikí' (reflecting the way the language is spoken in modern times) and 'katharévousa' (an artificial written form invented in the nineteenth century in an attempt to link Greek more closely to the ancient language). In times of more conservative rule (such as the colonels' junta) the use of katharévousa - even in speech - was emphasised at the expense of dhimotikí, and the Orthodox Church (a conservative organisation if ever there was one) still uses it. As a result of all this, place names throughout Greece had two forms, classic examples being 'Athínai' for Athens and 'Pátrai' for Patras (katharévousa) on road signs - even though everyone called those places 'Athína' and 'Mikínes' (dhimotikí), and anyone using the katharévousa forms in speech would have sounded pompous, not to say ridiculous. The same applies to Dryopís, which is simply the katharévousa form of Dryopída - anyone calling the place 'Dryopís' in this day and age would be laughed at, and indeed corrected. And since katharévousa was officially abolished back in 1977 (except by the Church) so that the language would henceforth have a single form, there is surely no need to perpetuate its use in modern-day contexts - such as this article. Katharévousa forms are occasionally still used to make things sound more official, for instance in the Greek names of the White House and the Red Cross, whereas the dhimotikí forms are used for any old white house (say, in a village) or red cross (say, on a computer screen). And they have survived in a number of set phrases (such as 'percent') and a handful of verbs, or have been revived in order to translate new terms (thus the word for an airport 'gate' is the katharévousa and ancient word for 'door'). But for all practical purposes katharévousa is now dead - and so are names like Dryopís!213.127.210.95 (talk) 14:24, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

This is partially wrong: lots of katharevousa names are still in official use today, just have a look here (Κοινότητα Δρυοπίδος, p.17442) or here (Δρυοπίς)...That these katharevousa names probably aren't used outside of official documents doesn't mean they were abolished or replaced, they are just as anachronistic now as when they were artificially given to modern places with modern names (the original name of Dryopida was Σύλλακα, before the 19th c renaming)--Phso2 (talk) 22:35, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

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