Talk:Howrah

Added back places of interest

From Towns_of_Howrah page. Removed places where there are no tourist attractions and the places which are far from Howrah City. Towns_of_Howrah page should be removed now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GDibyendu (talk • contribs) 17:01, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Link removed

I've removed http://thehowrahhotel.com as it links to a commercial site (hotel). --Victor 20:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I removed the whole section (as an anon). You can't mention only one hotel and still be NPOV! Potatoswatter 22:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Still workikng on the page ! Jeroje 03:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)jeroje

Articles Haora and Howrah

This is quite ridiculous. Haora and Howrah (হাওড়া in Bengali) is the SAME place! What is the point in having two articles if you can just COMBINE them! Has anyone thought of this?

এটা একটু রিডিকুলাস। "হাওড়া" ইংরেজি উইকিপিডিয়ায় Haora ও Howrah দুটো নাম হয় দুটো আর্টিকেল হয়েছে! Howrah এবং Haora তো একই জায়গা, ও মানে একই জিনিষ, তালে কেনো কেউ ঐ দুই আর্টিকেলকে কম্বাইন করে দিচ্ছে না! কেউ কি ঐ ব্যাপারে মনে করেছেন?

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"Note: In Bengali there is no V or W; both are replaced with a hard "B" or "Bh" - Very Well is pronounced "Bherry Bhell" by most Bengalis. Hence the name Shibpur and not Shivpur."

This is a shame, shibpur is the name of the place as they pronounce it, not because of any etymological issue. And furthermore what the writer means by saying bengali has no "v" or "W" ? does he/she mean the Germanic alphabets ? or the exact sound pronounced by some group of people at some place ? if it is the second then which place ? Does it mean that in Bengali one does not have the German W thats why shibpur is called shibpur otherwise it would have been called abraca-dabra. Or should we mention that if Dutch did not have the corresponding sound h unlike French it would have been called olland ? Its highly stereotyped and presumptuous on the part of the writer to write such claims which ofcourse has no basis. Jeroje 05:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)jeroje

Article is POV

It reads like tourist information. Can someone please clean up this mess. I allready removed an paragraph that was very POV. --Jeroenvrp 16:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

the POV and the "tourist information" part has been considerably cleaned up. I am removing the POV notice. Jeroje 04:35, 18 August 2007 (UTC)jeroje

Note

Please do not add any more institutes in the list, if the institute is required to be listed then make a List of institutions from Howrah and add a link in the article. Jeroje (talk) 07:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

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General clean-up needed again

To all interested. The article needs another general clean-up to prevent it looking like an unstructured article, or a tourist article. The Neighbourhoods and places of interest section looks like an advertisement, and the Education section strikes me as similar. The Renovation of Writers' Buildings and shift of the State Secretariat section needs to be merged with either the history section, or the writer's building main article. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 11:18, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Recent changes 2019-03-26

Dear all. I wanted to discuss the recent changes to the Howrah article - most recently seen on this revision [1] - however has been inserted and revised multiple times over the past few days. The most recent edits are by User:Bubun khanra, however I wonder if they were doing these edits from an anonymous IP address previously. I feel these edits are being done in good faith. I have a few issues with these edits, which I explained on my last reversion, which have been ignored. Listing them as follows:

• (1) The edits are breaking the structure of the wikipedia article. Non-existent citations are created, and pre-existing citations are now broken. These include the footnotes. The tables are now broken.
• (2) The new information added is unreferenced
• (3) As pointed out the information added refers to Howrah district, not the city/town of Howrah (i.e. the article). Howrah district has its own article. I suspect that the editor knows this as the information seems to be cut and pasted from Howrah district, however only in text form i.e. not the wiki markup which would include proper references.
• (4) The transport section was culled with only the relevant information to Howrah a long time ago. I feel that further transport edits are more suitable for Wikivoyage rather than Wikipedia - articles are not travel guides on Wikipedia. A few years ago there was an instance of an article created with all the bus routes in Howrah which was deleted by the administrators for this exact reason.
• (5) The transport section additions sometimes copy old sections and duplicate them. This is not a good structure for this article.

I do not want to get into an edit war or break the 3 revert rule on this. As I have only done one revert, I can do a 2nd revert linking to this explanation. However I will get some advice from User:Dirkbb who did a previous revert, as well as from Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. I think we can discuss this first and come to a conclusion. I am more than happy to discuss this, which is why I have put this into the talk page. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 08:28, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

• I have left messages on the talk pages of User:Bubun khanra and User:Dirkbb to get discussion going. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 08:35, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
• I note despite the attempts to reach out to User:Bubun khanra about the issues above, they have re-done the edits - [2]. User:Jeet Dev has reverted these - obviously they also feel these edits are inappropriate. I might be changing my opinion that these edits are now being done in bad faith. I will reach out to User:Bubun khanra again, however if this is now persistent I will take this to the administrators and request the page be protected. I will leave a message on the talk page of User:Jeet Dev to enlist some support in this matter. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 16:09, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
• I think the edits are being made in bad faith now. User:Bubun khanra has been continuing to make these edits, and now I wonder has made a sockpuppet account in User:The king is back here. Some of the recent reverts are being made by User:Jeet Dev. If this continues I will ask for admin input. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 20:20, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
• Hello User:Master Of Ninja, you are absolutely right. User:Bubun khanra and User:The king is back here are continuously editing the same. So I think there should be a sockpuppet investigation on those two accounts. Thanks. Jeet Dev^talk 07:08, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

• @Jeet Dev:Thanks for your input. As per the wikipedia dispute resolution guides I will give both the users above one further chance before escalating it with the administrators. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 07:56, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

• @Bubun khanra: and @The king is back here: - I've asked that you please discuss this matter. I'm going to go ahead and revert the changes you make for the reasons I've described above. If you continue making changes without responding here, then I'm going to have to file a complaint against you at ANI for disruptive editing.— Master Of Ninja (talk) 07:32, 30 March 2019 (UTC).
• Hello User:Master Of Ninja, please go to file a complaint against User:The king is back here and User:Bubun khanra at ANI for disruptive editing. Thanks. Jeet Dev^talk 19:08, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

• Due to persistent disruptive editing, with no indication that the editors want to discuss in good faith, I have reported to the administrators on [[3]]. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 19:30, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

• As per Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Bad_faith_editing_at_Howrah, the administrators have indefinitely banned User:The king is back here, and given User:Bubun khanra a 3 day block. These actions have also been sent to the relevant users' talk pages - there was apparently a copyright issue as well. If these edits then continue we can further action with the administrators. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 06:24, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Area of Howrah City

Howrah Corporation & Bally Municipality are merged now. Previously Howrah Corporation contained 50 wards and so the area was 51.74 sq km (reference no 2). Bally Municipality's area was 11.81 sq km (reference no 3). We can add these two figures and find the total area of Howrah City (a part of Kolkata Metropolitan area / Greater Kolkata ) or Howrah Corporation (now). So it is 63.55 sq km. Now someone can say Bally is not within Howrah City. Then I can say Behala, Jadavpur & Joka are not in Kolkata City because Behala & Jadavpur were added to KMC in 80's period and Joka is added to KMC very recently. Previously they were all individual municipalities / mauza in South 24 Parganas. The part of Howrah district, which is under Greater Kolkata region, is actually called Howrah City. So Howrah City & Howrah Corporation's area is equivalent. Soumo Dutt 18:15, 20 July 2019 (UTC)