Talk:Herpesviridae

Scope

Is this page supposed to be about all herpesviridae (100+ viruses) or just human herpesviruses (8 viruses)? It would make sense to expand the page to include all herpesviridae. Then a separate page can be created to list the herpes viruses that infect humans.

[[Gecko 15:40, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)]]

REPLY: I agree. I think that would be a good idea. Quarkey 13:07, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

This article is for all members of the family Herpesviridae, human-hosted or otherwise. Ypna (talk) 07:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Just 9 that infect humans, I count ten

I am pretty sure that listing [Macacine_alphaherpesvirus_1|Herpes B virus] under the "viruses which infect humans" would explain a lot of the Friday afternoons I have spent tending to monkey injuries... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:441:4900:58E0:5183:F0AF:3C99:708B (talk) 06:12, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

There are nine species that are endemic to humans, but a further two, one of which is Macacine alphaherpesvirus 1, are endemic to non-human animals but may be transmitted to humans. Ypna (talk) 07:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Etymology

Are you sure that the name is a reference to the recurring, latent infection produced by these viruses? I am almost certain that it refers instead to the 'reptilian' scaly scabs produced on the skin during outbreaks. "To creep" or "to crawl" is an accurate translation from the greek root, but it refers to reptilian crawling, not the figurative "creeping" up of the infection. For example, herpetology is the study of reptiles.

This excellent unsigned and undated question apparently has been lying here unanswered for almost ten years. I suspect that because both lesions and reptiles can be described as creeping, the original intent could be one, either, or both. There is no doubt that Herpes is Latin for creeping, but on a quick Google search I find no mention of any discussion of what is creeping - the lesions, or the similarity to the creeping critter the reptile. I suspect this is because no one knows or ever will know the intent of the original Greeks(?) naming it. IiKkEe (talk) 10:11, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

HH6/HH7

According to the Roseola page these both cause roseola. Here we say HH7 causes similar symptoms. Which is correct? Rich Farmbrough 14:03, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

REPLY:

Both HHV6 as well as HHV7 can cause roseola. So the Roseola page is correct and this page should be edited. There are various articles published in scientific magazines who say this, but i don't think i can link to them because they are usually not "open acces". Quarkey 13:03, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Taxonomy: Creation of Order herpesvirales

The ICTV has officially accepted in 2008 to create the herpesvirales order, see details in the accepted proposal --Philippe Le Mercier (talk) 15:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC) I updated the taxonomy according: Added proboscivirus, macavirus and percavirus. ALso I deleted Ictalurivirus in the unassigned species, since these now belongs to the new Alloherpesviridae family --Philippe Le Mercier (talk) 16:06, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Testudinid herpesvirus 3

User:Virion123 has been wanting to add Testudinid herpesvirus 3 to genus Scutavirus, without citation. However, it is not currently, nor ever has been listed by the ICTV. I would suggest that it could be added in a subsection of Taxonomy, but only with proper citation. I have no interest in starting an edit war, so I would ask @Graham Beards: his opinion as a long-standing pillar in the Viruses project. Additionally, if it is indeed added to the taxonomy, please observe the format and only bold/italicize the type species. Bervin61 (talk) 21:44, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

It could be added as a tentative species awaiting formal ICTV recognition. I agree with your important caveats regarding the formatting and placement. Although we generally avoid primary sources, this could be used as a citation in the meantime [1]. The ICTV are often slow to decide on, and publish, additions to their taxonomy. Graham Beards (talk) 08:52, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Viral structure chart

Is every entry in the chart supposed to have identical values (Spherical Pleomorphic, T=16, Enveloped, Linear, Monopartite)? Would other genera also be spherical pleomorphic, enveloped capsid, linearly arranged, monopartite segmented with T=16 symmetry? If so, a sentence would be more appropriate. I have no knowledge about this topic or I would make the edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.116.188.1 (talk) 19:03, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

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Protesting reversion

@Alexbrn:, you deleted my edit saying that there are antivirals against these, with the comment "unsouorced". You're being unreasonable. Any virologist knows that there are antivirals against these. It's even in Wikipedia (Antiviral drug, Aciclovir). Be constructive. If you think there has to be a source, then find a source, instead of just deleting a known and important fact! The other day you reverted my edit at Defecation postures which said exactly what you had been saying on the talk page! You complained that the source was too old, and was unreliable! (Even though it was an article by four university researchers.) So take the even or take the odd. Is it true (as you had been saying) that there wasn't clear evidence of a connexion with haemorrhoids, or is it just unreliable nonsense from the Townsend Letter? As user:EvM-Susana has been saying as well, you're going too far with your insistence on reliable sources for every statement. Eric Kvaalen (talk) 10:22, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

I have restored your edit and added a source. Graham Beards (talk) 10:39, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Graham Beards. Eric Kvaalen please review WP:V and particularly WP:BURDEN. Policy is not optional. Also review Wp:TPG - your contributions are becoming disruptive. Alexbrn (talk) 11:26, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Protesting another reversion

@Ruslik0:. You deleted my edit from september 12. (I had removed the information that CMV could infect leukocytes). Could you justify that? Except essentially for a paper from 1986, the whole literature seems pretty much in agreement that leukocytes are not a target of CMV. I'm open to let it your way, but could you provide good references? Thanks! Mariuswalter (talk) 18:16, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

You inserted

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after "monocyte". So, the edit did not look constructive. Though now I agree that CMV infects only monocytes, not lymphocytes. Ruslik_Zero 20:57, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

CMV can infect almost all lineages of the myeloid and lymphoid lineages, except pro/erythroblasts and megakaryocytes.

The infection may not be productive (releasing newly formed viruses), but it gets in and fires off a round of transcription/translation from IE and E genes.

Not here to get mired in the semantics of what does “infect” mean, but it can get in. Testtubewaltz (talk) 04:25, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Herpes virus

Cross-posted here, at Talk:Herpes simplex, and at Talk:Herpes simplex virus

Hi everyone. What do you think of this disambiguation-page: Herpes virus

I tried to make this into the shortest introduction one could possibly have to the subject. Maybe that page should be moved to Herpes, which is currently a redirect to Herpes simplex. Incorrectly, if you ask me. "Herpes" can refer to both a virus and a disease. Where I live, Netherlands, most people associate the word "herpes" with either herpes labialis (cold sores) or genital herpes. So, if they search for "herpes" on Wikipedia, it might be a good idea to present them with a short page explaining the terminology right away, in a concise manner. Cheers, Manifestation (talk) 19:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Seems smart to me Testtubewaltz (talk) 04:46, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

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LAT is only in some herpesviridae

Greetings friends,

A lot of this article focuses on LAT, which is brilliant for regulating latency in some herpesviruses. Not ALLherpesvirsues have LAT or an analogous transcript.

Would like to add clarification that LATs only exist in one subfamily of herpesviridae

Thoughts or objections? Testtubewaltz (talk) 04:44, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Orthoherpesviridae

In the latest (2022) taxonomy release by the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses (ICTV), Herpesviridae is renamed Orthoherpesviridae. Wikipedia will need to be updated to reflect this change. Ypna (talk) 21:16, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

i mean... i did it... YAY! Webclouddat (talk) 03:54, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Then the article should be moved to d:Q118434220. Infovarius (talk) 22:02, 14 August 2023 (UTC)