Talk:Gwadar

Repeated vandalism or near-vandalism

This page has been subjected to repeated insertions of material that has serious deficiencies. While the spelling, grammar, and formatting alone would make the inserted text unfit for inclusion in an encyclopedia, the material is non-neutral.

In this article and others, the same user appears to be repeatedly trying to promote a couple of websites: BalochVoice and BalochTawar.

I removed these links, and will substitute links that are pertinent to the subject. Is there some other action that the Wikipedia community would recommend? 68.20.38.45 05:13, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

China interests

What is the part about "China doesn't have warm water ports??" Isn't Shanghai warm enough? I think the writer is mistaking China for CIS countries. If not, he is expecting the Chinese to carry containers from Gwadar through mountains of Tibet and deserts of Western China to East of China were all the activity is. I had removed this part some weeks ago from the text but I think he doesn't want to give up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.181.180 (talk) 23:01, November 20, 2005 (UTC)

Haha. All of China's ports are warm water. Gwadar is important for China because it gives China access to the Indian ocean, as well as close access to the Middle East. China has been promised quite a bit of sovereignty in Gwadar (since they are the ones who financed practically everything there). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.199.125 (talk) 18:17, March 16, 2006 (UTC)

Reply: who told you about Chinese sovereignity in Gwadar? It is a Pakistani port. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.112.123 (talk) 16:08, April 16, 2007 (UTC)

Pak-China has enjoyed a long frindship based on common respect for each other and are now taking steps to explore and enjoy each other's resources. I'm happy that the people of Pakistan in general and of Balochitan in specific are finally going to enjoy the benefits of their land that has been long ignored! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.112.2.60 (talk) 10:01, June 11, 2007 (UTC)

LOL. Not for long, I'm afraid. They are now putting a military base there. Pakistan can kiss it goodbye. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I expect it to be a net benefit for the region in terms of the economy and stability.Arlesd (talk) 23:14, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Chinese naval base

It appears that the Chinese now have established a naval base in Gwadar.www.prisonplanet.com/target-china.html] __meco (talk) 21:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

copyvio?

the strategic importance portion of this article appears to be a word-for-word copy of http://www.defence.pk/forums/economy-development/1232-gwadar-jewel-crown-16.html.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 23:13, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

The airport section seems to be a copyright violation of http://pakistanidefenceforum.com/lofiversion/index.php/t25146.html.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 23:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Gwadar - Typo(?)

The Gwadar Port was built on a turkey basis by China...

I think that the Chinese will not care for this editorial comment.

71.198.45.84 (talk) 21:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Another typo?

In section "Rice zone" the 2nd paragraph starts

rs and other plants have been installed

which seems an accident. No idea what got lost there, though.
--94.79.169.144 (talk) 01:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Good sources

Here are some articles that could be good sources to add to the article:

• http://www.voanews.com/english/news/China-Refuses-to-Confirm-Reports-it-Will-Run-Strategic-Pakistani-Port-122498969.html
• http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/apr/08/gwadar-pakistan-great-game
• http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/ME28Ad02.html
• http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=84004&Cat=3
• http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011/08/14/story_14-8-2011_pg5_11

Cheers! -- Orionist ★ talk 18:42, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Gwadar

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Gwadar's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "ReferenceA":

• From List of extreme weather records in Pakistan: http://www.pakmet.com.pk/FFD/index_files/daily/rainfallaug.htm
• From Umar: Al Farooq, Umar, Muhammad Husayn Haykal Chapter no:1
• From Gandhara: The races of Afghanistan Being a brief account of the principal nations inhabiting that country By Henry Walter Bellow Asian Educational services Page 73
• From Mughal Empire: History Modern India – S. N. Sen – Google Books. Books.google.co.in. Retrieved 2012-07-06.
• From Arab culture: Mellor, Noha. The Making of Arab News.
• From China–Pakistan relations: China tested N-weapons for Pak: US insider The Times of India 6 September 2008
• From Maurya Empire: P. 266 Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics Part 1 By James Hastings
• From Peshawar: http://www.pakmet.com.pk/FFD/index_files/rainfalljuly10.htm
• From Jauharabad: Azam, K.M., Hayat-e-Sadeed: Bani-e-Dar ul Islam Chaudhry Niaz Ali Khan (A Righteous Life: Founder of Dar ul Islam Chaudhry Niaz Ali Khan), Lahore: Nashriyat, 2010 (583 pp., Urdu) [ISBN 978-969-8983-58-1]
• From Bactria: Metropolitan Museum of Art exhibition
• From Climate of Gwadar: http://www.pakmet.com.pk/cdpc/Climate/Jiwani_Climate_Data.txt
• From Saka: Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain & Ireland By Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland-page-323
• From Central Asia: Encyclopædia Iranica, "CENTRAL ASIA: The Islamic period up to the Mongols", C. Edmund Bosworth: "In early Islamic times Persians tended to identify all the lands to the northeast of Khorasan and lying beyond the Oxus with the region of Turan, which in the Shahnama of Ferdowsi is regarded as the land allotted to Fereydun's son Tur. The denizens of Turan were held to include the Turks, in the first four centuries of Islam essentially those nomadizing beyond the Jaxartes, and behind them the Chinese (see Kowalski; Minorsky, "Turan"). Turan thus became both an ethnic and a diareeah term, but always containing ambiguities and contradictions, arising from the fact that all through Islamic times the lands immediately beyond the Oxus and along its lower reaches were the homes not of Turks but of Iranian peoples, such as the Sogdians and Khwarezmians."
• From Shamsi Airfield: http://www.dawn.com/2011/12/11/us-personnel-vacate-shamsi-airbase.html
• From Jhelum: Encyclopaedia of ancient Indian geography By Subodh Kapoor-page-3
• From Ottoman Empire: Stone, Norman (2005). "Turkey in the Russian Mirror". In Mark Erickson, Ljubica Erickson (ed.). Russia War, Peace And Diplomacy: Essays in Honour of John Erickson. Weidenfeld & Nicolson. p. 95. ISBN 978-0-297-84913-1. Retrieved 11 February 2013.
• From Economy of Pakistan: International Monetary Fund, "Pakistan: Poverty Reduction Strategy Paper", IMF Country Report No. 10/183, June 2010
• From Pakistan Army: Pakistan Army. Globalsecurity.org.
• From Lodi dynasty: D.R. SarDesai. India The Definitive History. (Colorado: Westview Press, 2008), 146.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 20:56, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Flag of Oman displayed is anachronistic

When Oman ruled in Gwadar, its national flag was completely red. The tricolour displayed in the article was only introduced in 1970. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basilwatkinsosb (talk • contribs) 15:37, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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Gowadar vs Gwadar

Can we reach a concensis as top what this place is spelled as? It keeps being edited. The article is called Gwadar, but Gowadar is used inside the article. Should the article be renamed, or should the article itself be rid of the gowadar spelling? Seriously people, this is starting to become an edit war. - Zombles (talk) 10:24, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Gwadar is the current ( and correct spelling as far as the title goes) - but the whole region has historically been referred to as Go-Wadr, and its still the name as called by people across the border in Iran. The classical term Gedrosia itself is derived from a Greek corruption /transliteration of Govadrawathy - an old Persian term echoing a watering hole for cows[herds ?] and likely cognate with old indic. And the term 'Gate of Wind' is not the correct classical etymology , its just a later Baloch interpretation . 2600:6C58:4300:3C11:CDC8:6A88:F303:111F (talk) 20:26, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

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