Talk:Ferguson Jenkins
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African-Canadian?
editHow is this guy anything other than Canadian? He was born in Canada...
to the above poster:
According to the wiki-page for Black Canadian, "Some may refer to black Canadians as Afro-Canadian or African-Canadian, although this term is not as prevalent as African American in the United States."
I suspect that the writer of the page started with "African-American" and then changed it. Regardless, I have never heard the term used during my 23 as a Canadian resident. If it is necessary to indicate a person's race, they may be referred to as "black," but only in a situation where his/her race is particularly relevant. I'm not sure it is here. I'll leave it as is for a few weeks, and if no one balks (ha!) I'll take it out, or see if there's a more relevant position for it (for example, he is probably one of a select few black members of the Canadian Walk of Fame). Wencer 20:17, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, they mean black, and yes, nobody uses the term 'African-Canadian'. Is it relevent? I have no idea. WilyD 20:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Article title
editPer WP:COMMONNAME, shouldn't this article be titled "Fergie Jenkins" rather than "Ferguson Jenkins"? Do most news articles or other sources refer to him as "Ferguson"? -- JHunterJ 14:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- This google fight suggests that Ferguson is used 10 times more often than Fergie. Kingturtle 02:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that the simple google fight is enough to make the call here. Actually Googling the names is a little more telling. Most of the sites that refer to "Fergie Jenkins" also refer to his full name for obvious reasons. Also, it's important to look at which sites list him as "Fergie." Both his official site, his foundation's site, the Baseball Hall of Fame site, and even Britannica list him as Fergie first with a note on his full name. I'd be in favor of moving it to Fergie. What do other think?--Eva bd 13:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- His real name, his legal name, his birth name, his high school graduation name, and his name on the back of almost every baseball card is "Ferguson A. Jenkins"--the "A" being for Arthur. His NICKNAME is "Fergie". Are most famous persons in Wikipedia listed by their actual names or their nicknames? Almost every baseball fan refers to Alex Rodriguez as "ARod"--but should he be listed in Wikipedia that way?? I am not trying to be nerdy or intellectual or snobbish--but this is the sort of debate that makes any discussion of "objectivity", "neutrality", (or dare I say "professionalism" even?) or "literariness" or "scholarliness" or even just plain old "consistency" in Wikipedia sort of a joke.... --User:rbfitz0529
- He was called "Ferguson" more often than not during his playing years. "Fergie" grew some with time. Also, there's already a redirect from "Fergie". Messing with article titles that way is busy work that accomplishes nothing useful. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 12:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- I agree regarding the facts and the bottom line. When he was active I followed him as Ferguson and didn't know Fergie. --P64 (talk) 19:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- I strongly agree that he was always known as Ferguson. "Fergie" is just a convenient contraction once "Ferguson" has been established, in writing or speech. It is not in anyway a first-choice name or common nickname for the man. MensaJeff (talk) 06:20, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Added Copyedit template
editThere's some atrocious styling and grammar in this article. -- J.R. Hercules 05:15, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Assessment
editI have assessed this as a Start Class because it is contains a fair level of detail and organization, but lacks references in many sections. I have assessed this as low importance, as it is a highly specific topic within Canada. Cheers, CP 01:20, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- Sure Fergie was Canadian, but he played in primarily American leagues and for American cities (Chicago, Philadelphia, Texas and Boston). A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 17:25, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- He IS Canadian. Playing in the states doesn't make someone any less Canadian, btw. Blackjays1 (talk) 01:37, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Birth year
editI have deleted former note 1 to fit the article and infobox, which now give the 1942 birth year following SABR and baseball-reference. The Hall of Fame biography does give birth year 1943, as did the article before 17 Jun 2009. The Fergie Jenkins Foundation website is mainly blocked for me. --P64 (talk) 19:19, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Drug problems
editHow is it that this article makes no mention of his drug issues? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.185.58.50 (talk) 01:12, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
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Legacy Section: "More" home runs should be "Fewer" home runs?
editIn the legacy section it says only two other pitchers allowed more home runs. I'm thinking it should be fewer home runs.
Only Robin Roberts and Jamie Moyer allowed more home runs over a career than Jenkins. 74.88.29.2 (talk) 03:12, 6 October 2023 (UTC)