Talk:Bandy

Anything more about fans and supporters?

There is really nothing written about supporter culture in this article. Can I find more about it somewhere else at Wikipædia? Most sports have a dedicated fan base and supporter rivalries between teams. 2A00:801:76C:AD53:0:0:30BC:201F (talk) 05:58, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

It would be interesting to cover this subject at least somewhat generally. It is off course a subject which has a direct connection to the sport itself. There should be some newspaper or magazine articles or similar relating to this subject, which could be given as references for the sources given. I suppose something like that would be wanted or perhaps even a requirement, to write about it here.

Bandyman Desire (talk) 19:35, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

There are well-known rivalries in this sport, for example between fans of Edsbyn and Bollnäs in Sweden. --Green leaves okay (talk) 14:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Bandy is the fastest team sport

Bandy is considered the fasteat played team sport in the world because the skaters move so swiftly over the ice. I think this fact is more than just a matter of curiosity and ought to be written out in the article, preferrably in the beginning where the sport is described. 2A00:801:787:6A57:0:0:481C:B011 (talk) 14:33, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

It is a good idea to have this fact in the article, but I suppose it would have to be sourced someway. There are reference literature on the subject of course, but I have none at hand at the moment, here where I am right now. Do you have any yourself? Maybe someone else has some? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bandyman Desire (talk • contribs) 19:09, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Here is a study made on the velocity of bandy players:

• https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10250590/ at the National Library of Medicine, "Sprint skating profile of competitive male bandy players: determination of positional differences and playing level" Roland van den Tillaar,corresponding", author , 1 ,* Haris Pojskic, 2 and Håkan Andersson 3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.104.137.42 (talk) 17:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

What is the speed of a bandy player? What speeds do they reach on the playing surface? As they are playing the games on ice with skates on their feet, I get that they are faster than someone running on grass or something like that, but as a start for this question to be answered, you need to state the speed. What is the average speed for a player on the bandy rink in KM/H? /2A00:801:7A0:A579:0:0:6888:7C04 (talk) 05:49, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

In the study linked in the post just above yours, you can find the answer. It says the ”mean skating velocity extend[s] 16 km/h” and ”...high-velocity skating that in some cases reaches 37 km/h”. You can compare this with long-track speed skaters, who can reach over 55 km/h (”over 35 mph” according to [1]), but then only have to go along an oval track and not fending off players of an opposing team while doing it. A speed skating skate blade is also longer than the blade of the typical bandy skate, allowing for higher speeds but less sharp turns, while the bandy skate’s blade in turn is longer than the blade on an ice hockey skate. Ove Raul (talk) 22:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Using a ball rather than a puck also makes bandy faster than ice hockey. --Green leaves okay (talk) 14:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

What I meant to say (maybe that was not clear enough) is that the swiftness of a game in a team sport is not just about the speed of the players but also other things. One example is that a ball is used in bandy and this can be played faster than a puck as in ice hockey for instance. A bandy game can switch from one side of the firld to the other as fast as an ice hockey game and this mskes bandy faster since the playing field is larger. – Green leaves okay (talk) 02:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Overview of international competitions

Under the headline "Overview of international competitions" in the article is a table showing the World Championships and the World Cups, but it doesn't show any of the other inernational competitions. How come? Shouldn't the European Cup be there too, for instance, even if it hasn't been played for years? There has also been bandy tournaments in some multi-sport events and they could also be noted there, I think. 2A00:801:787:6A57:0:0:481C:B011 (talk) 14:44, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

There is no bandy played at the Olympics, is there? So only other competitions.

What multi-sport events have had bandy tournaments as parts of the events?  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 15:59, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

The Asian Winter Games has had bandy on its programme at least once. Ove Raul (talk) 13:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

I think you could add the youth world championships. Green leaves okay (talk) 16:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry, bad suggestion from me. The youth world cha.pionships are already there in the article. I should hsve checked before writing anything anout it here. – Green leaves okay (talk) 02:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Should 'short bandy' have its own article?

So a relatively new developed version of bandy played at small rinks just like rink bandy, is the form called 'short bandy'. It seems to have been created in Czechia and is supposed to be better for preparing for bandy played at regular sized bandy rinks. Should it have its own article or should it be better described in this article or in the article on rink bandy? Bandyman Desire (talk) 03:35, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I think so. It would be interesting to learn more about it.  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 10:27, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

If there is enough to say about it and there are good sources, I think it could have its own article. If not, it might be enough to mention it in the article on rink bandy. Is it only played in Czechia? Ove Raul (talk) 13:43, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Bandy and field hockey

There are some sections of text in this article about bandy´s relationship to association football (also known as soccer) and its relationship to ice hockey, but it is also related to field hockey. Field hockey is a form of hockey just like bandy is, and bandy and field hockey both have eleven man teams, bent sticks and balls and are played at the approximately same size of field or rink, just like association football too by the way.

There is reason to believe that not only association football with its English roots but also field hockey with its roots in the same country have given much inspiration to bandy and the rules for this game in its early days in the late 19th Century, when many modern sports were developed, while ice hockey on the other hand seems to be somewhat younger as a sport and also has its origin in Canada, not in England, but still there were already a section about bandy and ice hockey. There is reason to elaborate on this, but I cannot really do it myself since I am no expert on sports history in general nor on theses sports in particular. Who would be able to write something about it? Are there some sources you could recommend which could be used to extend the section about this?  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 16:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

• "There is reason to believe"--not without secondary sourcing. Drmies (talk) 16:43, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

  Yes. I am here to discuss this and to ask for sources. That¨s what Wikipedia talk pages are all about, aren't they? Do you have any suggestion as to where sources can be found?  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 16:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

How rude. How rude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Droöoooo (talk • contribs) 16:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

There are some texts about the similarity of Bandy and Field Hockey you can find online if you look for it. I don't know if these sources are good enough for an encyclopedic article on the subject, but they are qutie interesting (at least in my opinion):

• https://www.ahockeyworld.net/bandy-hockeyfield-hockey-on-ice/ "Bandy is not Ice Hockey, it's Field Hockey on Ice..." at A Hockey World
• https://skiernet.com/bandy.php "Bandy" at Skiernet
• https://www.skatetheoval.com/page/show/254552-bandy "What is Bandy?" by Skate the Oval
• https://monclubsportif.com/en/articles/bandy-unknown-sport-discover/ "Bandy: An unknown sport to discover" at MonClubSportif
• https://theculturetrip.com/europe/sweden/articles/bandy-the-popular-swedish-sport-youve-never-heard-of "Bandy, the Popular Swedish Sport You’ve Never Heard Of" at Culture Trip
• https://www.leeds.ac.uk/news-alumni/news/article/5068/leeds-alum-captains-great-britain-to-bandy-world-championship-silver "Leeds alum captains Great Britain to Bandy World Championship silver" at University of Leeds website
• https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/fancy-bandy-field-hockey-on-ice-but-not-ice-hockey-wants-to-outgrow-siberian-niche-1.190378 "Fancy bandy? Field hockey on ice – but not ice hockey – wants to outgrow Siberian niche" at The National News section on sports

Do what you want with these links. I don't know how to incorporate their meanings in this Wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.104.137.42 (talk) 17:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Nice. Thank you. I will read these linked articles when I have the time.  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 08:32, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

There is no doubt abour the similarities bwtween bandy and field hockey, but sources are needed. Are the links posted in this discussion credible ? Ove Raul (talk) 13:47, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

While the articles describe that there are similarities between the sports of bandy and field hockey, not much is said about a common origin and the rules are identified as being more close to association football. So the similarities could just as well be coincidental. You could write something in the article about similarities, but that's not really relevant. If there are sources credibly describing a common history of the two sports, this could be something to add to the article, but sources just describing casual talk about perceived visual similarities are not really interesting. GotoGothenburg (talk) 21:57, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Signing a comment, how?

Should I sign a comment? How do I do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Droöoooo (talk • contribs) 16:46, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

do ~~ ~ without the space ModdiWX (message me!) 16:51, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

How do I sign a comment? Should I sign a comment?

You write four tilde (~) in a row. Green leaves okay (talk) 05:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

India

The article claims India has never sent a national team to any international bandy competition, but wasn't there a team representing India at the youth world championship this year? Green leaves okay (talk) 16:33, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

No. India was supposed to send a teamto the U17 boys World Championship in Sankt Michel (Mikkeli) in Finland, but eventually the Indians never came. That’s sad, I would have loved to see it. Ove Raul (talk) 06:36, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Italy

Italy has become a full member of the Federation of International Bandy, elected as such at the FIB Congress in June this year. [2] Green leaves okay (talk) 11:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)