Talk:Archibald Wavell, 1st Earl Wavell

Untitled

Do we really need a table for Commander of ABDACOM when only one person ever held the position? It would be like having a "list" of Confederate Presidents. MK2 21:19, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Viscount or Earl

Header says Earl, but text says Viscount. Viceroy of India says also Viscount. Was he later promoted again? Greetings, Longbow4u 13:02, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Style issue discussion

There is a discussion going on here whether or not the first sentence of a biographical article should contain the full name of the individual and include any post nominal initials (eg. VC, KCB, OBE) or whether these should be relegated to later in the article. I have tried to point out that this is standard style and part of their full titles but there are “readability” concerns. This arose because of the Richard O’Connor featured article and one possible solution, a biobox, is now in place on that page. Please make your opinions known.Dabbler 12:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

There's a new biography of Wavell.

There's quite a good summary of Wavell: Soldier and Statesman by Victoria Schofield · John Murray, published in the London Review of Books: Vol. 28 No. 19 dated 5 October 2006.

The Wavell School

Wavell had a school named after him, the Wavell School in Farnborough, Hampshire, i think someone should write about that.

(Bizigi - 20 April 07)

"Best" Viceroy

Lord Wavell was the best Viceroy of India according to who? --Hnsampat (talk) 14:57, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes. the article is tagged as unreferenced. The 'best Viceroy' claim was added here:- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Archibald_Wavell%2C_1st_Earl_Wavell&diff=prev&oldid=12125118 William Avery (talk) 16:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Archibald Wavell, 1st Earl Wavell. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150402122350/http://livelystories.com/2011/08/20/the-tale-of-a-viceroy-and-two-prime-ministers-lord-wavell-churchill-and-attlee/ to http://livelystories.com/2011/08/20/the-tale-of-a-viceroy-and-two-prime-ministers-lord-wavell-churchill-and-attlee/

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 10:28, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:

• Archibald Wavell, 1st Earl Wavell.jpg

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 23:52, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Convert to sfn, sfnm; take to FA

• User:Kirrages, User:Dormskirk, User:Gaius Cornelius, User:Aumnamahashiva, and all others: I propose converting the references to {{sfn}} and {{sfnm}}, because the current system does not link between "Citations" and "General sources". This approach is as seen in Logic and Black Monday (1987) (Currently a featured article candidate). I'll do that, if no one disagrees.
• Currently, the following are in "general sources" but not in body text: Houterman, Koppes; Connell ( 1964); Connell (1969); Close (1997). Just deleting those or moving them to a "Further reading" section does not address the fundamental problem here, which is given in the first sentence of this post. Verifiability is compromised by unlinked references. That is especially true because additional sources will almost certainly be needed and used.
• I intend to take this article to WP:FAC, though that may be months from now... Wavell is the real hero of Bengal famine of 1943 and (to a lesser degree) the story told in Hermione, Countess of Ranfurly... I will wait a few days for responses. Tks. § Lingzhi (talk|check refs) 15:08, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

OK with me. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 15:17, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes. {{sfn}} and {{sfnm}} will make for a neater, more accessible and more verifiable article. Gaius Cornelius (talk) 16:45, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

@Lingzhi.Renascence No problem with me. Keep up the good work! Stephen Kirrage ^{talk - contribs} 21:14, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks for your work here Lingzhi.Renascence Buckshot06 (talk) 13:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Washington Trip May 1943

Presumably this was for the Trident Conference. I've had a flick through the new unexpurgated edition of Chips Channon's Diaries, but Heffer doesn't say. Paulturtle (talk) 01:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, Trident. See Schofield pp 286-287. DuncanHill (talk) 10:41, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Cheers.Paulturtle (talk) 21:01, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Rommel's "glory"

The article states that, though ordered to take a defensive posture, "Rommel was determined to launch an unauthorised offensive to win himself glory." Winning personal glory actually never seems to have been important to Rommel. Looking at his actions as commander in both the First and Second World War, it would appear that he had from personal experience come to the conclusion that "attack was the best defence" and that surprise attacks were the best way to maximize gains while minimizing losses -- the latter being of prime importance in Africa since the Afrikakorps' lines of supply from Europe were constantly under threat. This was not the first time Rommel defied restraining orders; he did the same thing in the Battle for France. Rommel's orders to form a defensive line at Sirte did not come from Hitler (as the article states) but from the OKW (Wehrmacht High Command) while Hitler actually encouraged him to attack. Death Bredon (talk) 16:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)