Talk:Alert, Nunavut

Alert is not the northernmost continuously-inhabited place on earth

The Wikipedia article itself contradicts this claim:

1. The official population is given as zero (!),
2. All the "residents" are temporary, staying only six months at a time,
3. There exists only a "complex" to house people: no "town" to speak of.

Alert, NU, is a science station and Canadian military outpost. It is no more "the northernmost continuously-inhabited place on Earth" than any of the science stations in Antarctica are the southernmost.Mwidunn (talk) 20:23, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

This is not a contradiction. Continuously inhabited means there is always someone there which is true. The population is defined by people who have their primary home there which is zero. Equally the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station is the most southerly continuously-inhabited place on earth - also population 0. In short, continuously inhabited = 'someone always in residence', permanently inhabited = at least one person who has this place as their primary residence. The List of northernmost settlements makes the distinction clear. Macgroover (talk) 06:06, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Your entirely statement is a contradiction. Please revise your English language before attempting to educate others. This is basic knowledge and you sound silly for attempting to unsuccessfully correct the other person. There are no permanent residents therefore cannot be "continuously inhabited" as well as having a population of 0. 47.54.236.220 (talk) 19:36, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Regardless of this, it definitely shouldn't be referred to as the 'northernmost uninhabited place on earth', as it currently is in the article. 2601:243:286:C0:7CEC:3B5D:8E24:E3FE (talk) 05:32, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

How does that make any sense? I'm genuinely curious. What do you think it should be? If there are no residents then it's uninhabited so yes, it most certainly should be referred to as such. 🤦‍♂️ No wonder people are increasingly stupid. The people running this site are evidence that the education system has failed. I'm done fighting this trivial argument. Nothing worse than confident ignorance. Have a great day. 47.54.236.220 (talk) 22:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

It isn't the northernmost uninhabited place because there are places further north that are uninhabited. 2601:243:286:C0:7CEC:3B5D:8E24:E3FE (talk) 00:29, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes you're right, you dolt but the place hasn't been inhabited since at least 2021. Therefore it's neither inhabited nor continuously inhabited. Congratulations on being stupid twice. 47.54.236.220 (talk) 16:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Did you read the second paragraph of the article? There are always people stationed at Alert. They are not necessarily there for an entire year but the weather station and the base are inhabited constantly.

Think of it like a student going from a community in Nunavut to university.

My daughter spent four years in Iqaluit taking the Nunavut Teacher Education Program. She came home to Cambridge Bay every summer during the break but spent her Christmas breaks in Iqaluit. Her, and her families official residence was Cambridge Bay, and she was not counted in the 2021 Canadian census as a resident of Iqaluit.

That is how Alert works. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 16:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Relative humidity

We currently say

The relative humidity is so low that doors are covered in electrical tape to prevent static electricity.

However I think it's much more likely that we're talking about the dew point, something not commonly measured in winter. Alternatively we could say that the relative humidity is extremely low indoors, .... but either way our climate table makes it plain that Alert has a fairly high relative humidity year-round, even in winter, which I believe is common to climates of the far north. —Soap— 15:27, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

It would indeed be more accurate to say that the RH indoors is extremely low, however I would like to bring up that because of the lower temperatures, the amount of water stored in the air - outside specifically in this case - as vapour is considerably less than in warmer climates. So I believe in the end we should change the "relative humidity" to "moisture in the air" to be more accurate. (Also as a minor side note, there is lots of electrical tape, but it doesn't do much to prevent static electricity; I'm regularly getting shocked by the bare metal. And we do measure dew point year round.) Ribbit it's Toad573 18:54, 15 June 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toad573 (talk • contribs)

Growing season

Also, I think a five-day growing season is essentially a matter of trivia, as it's really measuring the longest warm spell each year, rather than a season that will occur reliably and allow crops to grow. It's not wrong, but I wonder if it's worth omitting or at least rewording to something like "longest period without frost each year". —Soap— 15:30, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

I don't think we should take it out, because it is interesting. I agree that your wording is a good way to put it. Loymdayddaud (talk) 07:13, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Tim Hortons?/Angolese Embassy?

Google Maps claims that there is a Tim Hortons in Alert. A couple of people have removed any mention of a Tims there, and the Tim Hortons Store Locator doesn't recognize one up there.

Not to mention, there is supposedly an Angolese Embassy there as well. But that doesn't make sense because (1)building an embassy in Alert is a terrible idea unless it's Santa's embassy to Canada, (2) the correct endonym is Angolan, not Angolese, and (3) Angola already has a Canadian embassy in Ottawa. If anyone can shed some light on either of these (it's very likely that they're both pranks), I would much appreciate it. Timhortonsconspiracist (talk) 21:45, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Probably like here, Cambridge Bay, where you can buy the coffee, or Starbucks, in cans or pods. The local stores also fly in doughnuts, KFC, etc. We also have a Pizza Hut Express that sold pizza and KFC. See https://www.reddit.com/r/geography/comments/10xbqxw/can_anyone_confirm_or_deny_that_alert_canada/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/r7nokr/alert_nunavut_is_the_northernmost_continuously/. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 17:03, 24 May 2023 (UTC)