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Line 18: {{old move\|date=4 August 2022\|destination=Wikipedia:WikiProject Association football\|result=not moved\|link=Special:Permalink/1103882285#Requested move 4 August 2022}} {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/navigation}} ~~== List of players by club ==~~ Standard naming for this is [[List of X F.C. players]] - apart from in USA, where it's [[All-time X FC roster]], see {{cat\|Lists of soccer players by club in the United States}}. Is there any reason for this, or why the USA should not match the rest of the world? [[User:GiantSnowman\|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman\|Snowman]] 12:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :I am not aware of the reason these lists were named as an "All-time" roster, however that phrasing suggests to me that it is a list of every player under contract. I think the phrasing "List of" players is more accurate, as these lists ought to have specific inclusion criteria. [[User:Jogurney\|Jogurney]] ([[User talk:Jogurney\|talk]]) 17:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC) ~~== Youth title in Olympiacos honor section ==~~ Hey there! Why is the uefa youth league title that [[Olympiacos F.C. Youth Academy]] won, shown on the senior team [[Olympiacos F.C.]]? Shouldn't it be removed and kept on the youth article, because they were the ones who won it, not the senior team? [[User:Speun\|Speun]] ([[User talk:Speun\|talk]]) 21:19, 10 November 2024 (UTC) :Agreed, it's not a 'honour' for the (senior) team. [[User:GiantSnowman\|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman\|Snowman]] 22:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)▼ ~~::Hi again GS! So it should just be removed? or do we need more people to agree? Idk how it works tbh. [[User:Speun\|Speun]] ([[User talk:Speun\|talk]]) 18:47, 12 November 2024 (UTC)~~ :::Agree that it should be removed. [[User:Kante4\|Kante4]] ([[User talk:Kante4\|talk]]) 18:55, 12 November 2024 (UTC)▼ ::::Yes, remove it. [[User:GiantSnowman\|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman\|Snowman]] 19:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)▼ ~~:::::Thank you both for your replies! I removed it! :-) [[User:Speun\|Speun]] ([[User talk:Speun\|talk]]) 19:59, 12 November 2024 (UTC)~~ == Image query == Line 50 ⟶ 34: ::::::::That book is not available through archive.org but there's links to downloads of it (in various formats) [https://www.valeofleven.org.uk/valesongsandpoems.html#ovaim here] however they don't seem to work. {{ping\|AssociateAffiliate}} - might be worth contacting the site (contact details [https://www.valeofleven.org.uk/contacts.html here]).......? -- [[User:ChrisTheDude\|ChrisTheDude]] ([[User talk:ChrisTheDude\|talk]]) 08:33, 18 November 2024 (UTC) :::::::::That's a dead end. The [https://www.facebook.com/ValeHistory/photos/this-is-a-report-from-the-epilogue-to-the-old-vale-and-its-memories-on-a-footbal/1507526546113756/ Facebook post] that mentioned it is actually referring to text from [https://web.archive.org/web/20170207231939/https://www.valeofleven.org.uk/docs/TheOldValeEpilogue.pdf the book]. [[User:Hack\|Hack]] ([[User talk:Hack\|talk]]) 01:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC) ~~==Cieran Slicker edits be User GiantSnowman==~~ I've made well intended edits to [[Cieran Slicker]]. [[User:GiantSnowman]] seems determined to demonise the edits, twice so far (and 3rd time ready to happen at any moment), labelling the edits as unconstructive and vandalism. Constructive critique is one thing, why GiantSnowman is driven to take such a negative attitude to this I am unable to comprehend. I know anyone can have a bad day, the persistence of the negativity suggests though GiantSnowman is having more than just a bad day. The edits I added are more informative and use less verbose language. If this is the life of a wikpedia editor, you can keep it. Whatever you decide among you, adios amigos and all the best to you. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures\|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/42.200.192.109\|42.200.192.109]] ([[User talk:42.200.192.109#top\|talk]]) 02:44, 16 November 2024 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> ~~:GiantSnowman’s wording is inline with the article standards for football players across Wikipedia to be fair.~~ ~~:Reverting the article to the wording used by GiantSnowman would be done by most associated with WikiProject Football.~~ ~~:'''Your Edit:'''~~ :'''Cieran Peter Slicker''' (born 15 September 2002) is a professional [[Association football\|football]] [[Goalkeeper (association football)\|goalkeeper]]. He is contracted to [[Premier League]] club [[Ipswich Town F.C.\|Ipswich Town]] until 2028. ~~:'''GiantSnowman’s Edit:'''~~ :'''Cieran Peter Slicker''' (born 15 September 2002) is a professional [[Association football\|footballer]] who plays as a [[Goalkeeper (association football)\|goalkeeper]] for [[Premier League]] club [[Ipswich Town F.C.\|Ipswich Town]]. [[User:Jcshy\|Josh]] ([[User talk:Jcshy\|talk]]) 05:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC) ~~::@[[User:GiantSnowman\|GiantSnowman]] [[User:Jcshy\|Josh]] ([[User talk:Jcshy\|talk]]) 05:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)~~ :::I have explained the reasons for reverting the changes on my talk page. The IP reverting against MOS and accusing me of vandalism is concerning. [[User:GiantSnowman\|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman\|Snowman]] 07:30, 16 November 2024 (UTC) ~~::::The initial edit was not vandalism though, which is how you labelled it. [[User:Spike 'em\|Spike 'em]] ([[User talk:Spike 'em\|talk]]) 08:34, 16 November 2024 (UTC)~~ ~~:::::Fair point, apologies to the IP for that. [[User:GiantSnowman\|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman\|Snowman]] 08:39, 16 November 2024 (UTC)~~ == National football team seasons == Line 98 ⟶ 65: :You're correct as far as I am aware, there appears to be no doubt about the citizenship timeline: he wasn't Albanian when in Portugal. [[User:Crowsus\|Crowsus]] ([[User talk:Crowsus\|talk]]) 15:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC) ▲::Agreed~~, it's not a 'honour' for the (senior) team~~. [[User:GiantSnowman\|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman\|Snowman]] 2217:3836, 1021 November 2024 (UTC) @[[User:Crowsus\|Crowsus]] and @[[User:GiantSnowman\|Giant]], thank you very much for your inputs. I'd say thus that there seems to be a consensus, so i re-removed the category and redirected the other user to this discussion (in the edit summaries); let's see if they respect it. --[[User:RevampedEditor\|RevampedEditor]] ([[User talk:RevampedEditor\|talk]]) 12:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC) ::::I added a hidden note underneath the categories explaining it. It likely is a Good Faith edit misunderstanding by the person who added it. [[User:RedPatch\|RedPatch]] ([[User talk:RedPatch\|talk]]) 17:16, 22 November 2024 (UTC) == [[:Justine Emmanuel]] == Line 106 ⟶ 77: Also recreated after deletion? Or was it recreated after a DRV? [[User:Govvy\|Govvy]] ([[User talk:Govvy\|talk]]) 10:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC) :If you look at the page history it was CSD/G4ed, but an admin declined as it was expanded from the previous deleted version. You'd have to AfD it again if you feel it's not worthy of an article. [[User:Spike 'em\|Spike 'em]] ([[User talk:Spike 'em\|talk]]) 11:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC) ::New AFD started: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Serie A broadcasters (2nd nomination)]]. Everyone feel free to contribute there. [[User:Joseph2302\|<b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b>]][[User talk:Joseph2302\|<b style="color:#000000">2302</b>]] ([[User talk:Joseph2302\|talk]]) 11:55, 21 November 2024 (UTC) ▲:::~~Agree~~ ~~that~~Thanks itJoseph, ~~should~~posted bemy thoughts on that ~~removed~~AfD. [[User:~~Kante4~~Govvy\|~~Kante4~~Govvy]] ([[User talk:~~Kante4~~Govvy\|talk]]) 1817:5516, 1221 November 2024 (UTC) == Timestamps in infoboxes == Hi all, I've just been on the user talk of a user that amends infoboxes every week but never, ever updates the timestamp. They've been warned several times for over 12 months to do this but, as of today, they still choose not to. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that no matter how many times I ask them to do it, they'll never actually do it. As this is not vandalism or disruptive editing per se, it's very hard to encourage certain users to use the timestamp. I wonder if our standard infobox template would benefit from some hidden comments that guide the user to amend the timestamp? For example, in tennis infoboxes (e.g. [[Aryna Sabalenka]]) there are many instructions such as ''first date is death date, second date is birth date'' and ''NEVER UPDATE UNTIL THE WTA/ATP WEBSITE IS UPDATED (usually on a Monday)'' - that way, there is zero excuse when someone doesn't follow protocol. [[User:Spiderone\|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone\|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 16:31, 24 November 2024 (UTC) :It ''is'' disruptive editing - it's essentially repeatedly adding factually incorrect information to BLPs. Hidden comments still get ignored. Blocking is a much more effective way of preventing disruption... [[User:GiantSnowman\|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman\|Snowman]] 16:35, 24 November 2024 (UTC) ::Fair enough. I don't know why people don't do it, even after several reminders. It only takes a few seconds and it helps readers to see that the info is up to date. [[User:Spiderone\|<span style="color: #996600">Spiderone</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Spiderone\|<span style="color:brown">(Talk to Spider)</span>]]</sup> 16:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC) :::I agree that it might not be intentionally disruptive but it is disruptive. Periodically I see someone making such an edit on an article on my watchlist, which by itself wouldn't be too bad but I then click on their contributions and see they have made similar edits at the same time to 20 or 30 other articles, all of which I then have to fix....... -- [[User:ChrisTheDude\|ChrisTheDude]] ([[User talk:ChrisTheDude\|talk]]) 17:01, 24 November 2024 (UTC) ▲::::~~Yes,~~It's ~~remove~~an itindication of [[WP:CIR\|a lack of competence]]... [[User:GiantSnowman\|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman\|Snowman]] 1917:0405, 1224 November 2024 (UTC) :::Sometimes, sadly, I think it's that [[WP:THEYCANTHEARYOU]]. [[User:Robby.is.on\|Robby.is.on]] ([[User talk:Robby.is.on\|talk]]) 18:56, 24 November 2024 (UTC)