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Category:Statues of politicians by country

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Judging by its subcategories, this has two purposes: statues by subject's country of origin and statues by statue's country of location. For example, Category:Statues of politicians of France and Category:Statues of politicians in France are both subcategories. Both are useful; a statue of George Washington in France, for example, belongs in the "in France" category but not in the "of France" category, and the same is true of a statue of Charles de Gaulle in the USA. Any opposition to splitting it into two categories, e.g. Category:Statues of politicians by country of origin and Category:Statues of politicians by country of location, respectively? I don't want to split it without some input from others. Of course, most politician statues will be in their home countries (all but the most prominent will be unknown to foreigners), so I wonder if maybe we'd best be served by getting rid of the "of" categories (i.e. just going by location of statue) and just adding a tree for expatriate statues, e.g. George Washington in Paris and Charles de Gaulle in New York. Nyttend (talk) 23:57, 1 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think splitting makes sense. There are statues of Winston Churchill, for instance, in at least 5 countries outside the UK. - Themightyquill (talk) 06:45, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I might add that we do have both Category:Monuments and memorials to people by country and Category:Monuments and memorials to people by country of location so it wouldn't be entirely without precedent to split. - Themightyquill (talk) 07:24, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Statues of politicians by country of origin: Is it the politicians’ country of origin or the statues’ country of origin? -- 32X (talk) 11:17, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I've been trying to think of a better way to phrase it, to clearly indicate that it's the politician's country of origin, not the statue's. Category:Statues of politicians by nationality? I'm not sure that's necessary though. A description and link at the top would make it clear enough. Although there's some ambiguitity in Category:Statues of politicians from France, I think it's fairly obvious that it refers to the French nationality of the politician, not the statue. The only alternative for sub-categories would be something like Category:Politicians from France in statue form which is way too awkward. Themightyquill (talk) 08:08, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Stale discussion. @Nyttend, Themightyquill, and 32X: Seems to be a tough CFD. I can propose two set of variants:

I guess both variants are not good, but maybe the hatnotes do the explanatory job? --Estopedist1 (talk) 19:34, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Estopedist1: What's the difference between those two sets of variants? -- Themightyquill (talk) 11:51, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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