Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, J 1982!

East/West Germany

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An welcher Stelle wurde beschlossen, die Mauer in den Kategorien wieder aufzubauen? Könntest du das eine zeitlang stoppen, bis das geklärt wurde? Erfahrungen haben gezeigt, dass es oft sinnvoll ist, nur nach heutigem Gebietsstand zu kategorisieren. Gruß -- Niteshift (talk) 18:52, 14 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Take it in English. J 1982 (talk) 21:55, 14 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
Hi, J 1982! In Germany categorizing by history would put several little states into life again, which many of us right even cant think of. So it is a practical matter to categorize everything by todays political boarders on all levels, beginning on the municipal level. On the state level borders have changed in the reubification. Parts of former GDR states belong to West Germany now. So categorizing GDR against FRG would not go along with the political correctness as well. So, over all, I too believe, that it would be better to keep the inner German boarder where it is, a part of history, a part of many German states we have had. So, we categorize into the 16 states, then into districts and finally into the last level of the municipalities.--Kresspahl (talk) 19:47, 15 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
Why not? It's the same with the USSR. Wikipedia follows a neutral point of new, not what's political correct (which changes over time). J 1982 (talk) 14:53, 16 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

XXXX in Sweden

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Hejsan!

Jag håller på att ladda upp biblar och sidor ur bibelöversättningar här.

Jag har sett dig stoppa in kategorier XXXX in Sweden i vissa kategorier som finns på min bevakning.

?Exakt hur har du tänkt med dessa årtalskategoriseringar?

Vissa biblar är ju utgivna ett år, men tryckta ett annat. Detta kan även gälla platsen. Detta är med andra ord inga klockrena självklara händelser att kategorisera... Flera av dessa biblar är inte alls tryckta i Sverige.

Tex en kategori som du kategoriserat som 1883 in Sweden innehåller bibelsidor, tryckta 1891 i Sverige, men också en som tryckts 1911 i USA... Dessutom är den bibel som här är utgiven 1655 (du har inte kategoriserat den ännu), utgiven med bistånd av en massa personer från olika delar av vad som då var Sverige, dvs många från vad som idag är Finland, Baltikum och Tyskland...

(Category:Bibelöversättningarna av år 1536 är dessutom en bok som utgavs 1956 och innehåller bibeltexter från 1536, så jag vet inte om den är rätt kategoriserad.) -- Lavallen (talk) 14:28, 21 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Kan inget om bibelöversättningar. Trodde det var utgivningsår. J 1982 (talk) 16:37, 21 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
Böcker är knepiga på det viset, de trycks om och det är då svårt att veta vilket man ska kategorisera som. I vissa fall har dessutom ngn varit framme och moderniserat språket eller översatt mm mm mm.
Det vore logiskt att kategorisera efter ursprungligt utgivningsår på svenska. (Orginalet finns ju alltid på ett annat språk.) Frågeställningen kommer dessutom om det verkligen är en Svensk händelse. Det rör sig snarare en svenskspråklig händelse. För svenska talas det inte bara i Sverige. Och svenska är inte det enda språket i Sverige. Finska biblar har utgivits i Sverige och kanske även på andra minoritetsspråk som samiska mfl. Många biblar är tryckta i amerika och förvånadsvärt många i England. Detta berodde förvånandsvärt nog inte bara på att förläggaren lade tryckningen dit. De äldsta svenska bibeltexterna har vi inget exakt utgivningsår för, bara ett århundrade (1400). (Delar av dem finns här.) -- Lavallen (talk) 19:15, 21 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
Ta bort den om du vill. Jag känner till världspespektivet och tycker det är bra, men biblar på svenska gavs nog ändå mest ut för Sverige (1536 var ju Finland en del av Sverige) och svenska har ändå alltid dominerat i Sverige. J 1982 (talk) 21:35, 21 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Categories falsely categorized

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Hello!

These two categories Category:Andorra in the 1990s and Category:Andorra in the 2000s were in the wrong by-year-category. I fixes that mistake for you. Please check other categories for the same mistake. Thank you in advance. --High Contrast (talk) 09:48, 8 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Årtalskategorier

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Vad är meningen med att gömma undan helt aktuella bilder, naturbilder och dylikt under diverse årtalskategorier? jag tycker att det gränsar till vandalism. Tyvärr har du ju hunnit med så många bilder nu, att det blir jobbigt att återställa. Jag kommer att be någon administratör hjälpa till med detta. --Zejo (talk) 16:50, 28 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Vissa kanske kan kan läggas under båda. Jag gör som de gjort i en del länder (Storbritannien och Tyskland). J 1982 (talk) 16:52, 28 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
Jag tycker som zejo, att det är orimligt att "gömma undan". Tidskategorin bör vara helt parallell, så att bilden han hittas under kommunkategorin, antingen direkt eller under en vanlig underkategori (exempelvis en kyrka e.d). Byt alltså inte ut befintlig kategori - tillägg är däremot OK! Sedan undrar jag dock över nyttan med att kategorisera på årtal för småorter, där det endast finns någon handfull bider totalt. 1990-tal, 2000-tal 2010-tal borde räcka. Det blir ett våldsamt bläddrande om man vill hitta bilder för t.ex Askersund, eller någon annan landsortskommun under -00-talet, med 10 underkategorier med som mest något enstaka objekt i varje. Taxelson (talk) 14:05, 1 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Samma gäller för personer. Om vi har tre bilder på Bertil Ohlin, så finns ingen anledning att skapa tre olika kategorier med en bild var för olika år. /Ö 19:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Har vi kategorierna skall vi använda dem. Det skapas massor av sådana kategorier här. J 1982 (talk) 12:39, 11 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Det är ju du själv som skapar dem. Till vilken nytta förstår åtminstone inte alltid jag.--Zejo (talk) 15:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Jag är inte ensam om att skapa sådana kategorier. Jag tänker återställa de jag skapade, det kan dyka upp fler bilder. J 1982 (talk) 16:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Jag ställde en fråga på Village Pump för att se vad fler användare tycker. /Ö 13:41, 13 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Jag tycker att det är lite meningslöst med pyttesmå kategorier som category:1951 in Lund. Kan du inte bidra med att ladda upp bilder istället för att fragmentisera kategorier? /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 17:35, 16 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Men du bara fortsätter och fortsätter, fast du tydligen inte orkar bry dig att diskutera i Commons:Village pump#By year categories. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 13:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)Reply
Vi är flera som har bett dig sluta med den enorma fragmentisering av kategorier du håller på med. Kategorierna du skapar är allt för specifika för att vara meningsfulla. Snart finns det lika många kategorier som bilder på Commons, vilket innebär att det kommer att bli omöjligt att hitta en lämplig bild till ett ändamål genom att titta på miniatyrerna på en kategorisida. Man måste veta EXAKT vad man letar efter, och det gör man ofta inte. Sådana här genomgripande förändringar av kategoristrukturen måste diskuteras igenom innan de genomförs. Var snäll och besinna dig! --Zejo (talk) 14:59, 19 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Nonexistent categories

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Please, when you are changing categories: moving something into non-existent categories is not helpful. There is no way to navigate to it down the category hierarchy. If you are introducing a brand new category, you have to tie that category into the tree (by adding supercategories) as well. - Jmabel ! talk 16:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Category:2004 Summer Paralympics

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In 2004 the new IPC logo was introduced AFTER Athens' games. The previous logo was actual during 2004 Paralympics.
Please, compare with this.
Best regards. Mboro (talk) 09:23, 15 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Date categories

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Hello. I saw this edit: [1] on an image I uploaded. I'm curious to know what those categories are for. Do you intend to add date categories to every image? Jonathunder (talk) 21:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Discuss at Commons:Village pump#By year categories J 1982 (talk) 21:19, 1 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
Where people are telling you that "by year" categories are not helpful for buildings. Now you are categorizing a photo of a library by date!?! /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 21:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the link to the discussion; it looks like others have questions that I was going to ask. I don't see support for adding such specific date categories to historic buildings. Perhaps we should discuss this more before adding more. Jonathunder (talk) 22:15, 1 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

I see you've continued to add year categories to buildings. These may be too specific. For example, I know the Gonda Building had years of construction. Can we discuss this before adding more? Jonathunder (talk) 15:35, 2 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
I've just added like other people do here. J 1982 (talk) 15:40, 2 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
I have not seen anyone else add categories for a particular date to a photo of an old building. Have you seen any? No one else supported doing so in the discussion you pointed me to. Is there support for this elsewhere? Jonathunder (talk) 03:10, 3 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Basque Country versus Basque Autonomous Community

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when categorising, please take care of the distinction between Basque Autonomous Community and Basque Country, as explained at Category:Basque Country. Thanks, --Havang(nl) (talk) 11:32, 2 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Railway stations opened in <year> -> Rail transport in <year>

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Hi J1982

You obviously have used a bot to create the cats of Transport by year (according to Railway stations by year of establishment). Actually I have created an intermediate cat-tree Rail transport by year, see for example: Category:1902 in rail transport. Can you use again your bot, to add the missing cats there, please? thanx --anro (talk) 22:48, 2 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

No, I didn't use a bot. But shall we replace all like Category:1982 rail now and use Category:1982 in rail transport. J 1982 (talk) 10:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
Yes this might be a good idea (I'll do it by bot) --anro (talk) 21:51, 3 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

1994 in Honduras?

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Hallo J 1982, I saw you created Category:1994 in Honduras lately. Now the Category:Honduras in the 1990s was not exactly overfilled and I do not really understand why this Category:1994 in Honduras was necessary. Why separate the few '94 pictures (there are some more than the one which is now in the '94-category) from the even so few '98 and '99 Pictures? Hettie (talk) 12:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

All right, there are some more '94-pictures in this category now. But still... why separate them from the other pictures taken in the ninetees? Category:Honduras in the 1990s would fit on one screen without separating them in different years. Hettie (talk) 15:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
We are separating different years in different countries here, and even towns, federated states, municipalities and districts. There is no reason to to different with Honduras. J 1982 (talk) 15:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
I fear that I differ in your observation that we "are" separating different years in different countries. Are we? I'd rather say that we do it sometimes, and sometimes we don't. I never saw this happening in say Category:Ecuador (we don't even split that country up in decades). I see it partly done in Category:Guatemala in the 1990s. I am glad to see that it had not been done in Category:Kenya in the 1990s. But even so, what's the use of doing it in such a small category? It doesn't give any usefull information, apart from the fact that one of our contributers traveled Honduras in 1994. Hettie (talk) 15:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
Just because we havent split up those countries yet, there is nothing that prevents us from doing it in the future. J 1982 (talk) 17:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
Well... there is actually. There is a thing called common sence, which prevents us from doing that. And which should have prevented us from doing it in the past. But undoubtedly there is a substantive reason why we are dividing into separate years. Otherwise we would not be doing it. Unfortunately I do not know the reason and I can not guess it. That's why I asked you in the first place. The reason can hardly be that we do this because we do this, is it? Hettie (talk) 21:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
Are we still in touch? Hettie (talk) 11:17, 8 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
I wasn't here when this project begun, but it's probably just following Wikipedia in mangy languages. J 1982 (talk) 11:45, 8 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
Like for instance the English do on their Category:Years_by_country? The interwiki's on that category show that some language versions indeed do that, but others don't. In both groups big language versions are represented. Well, I suggest we bring this question up at the Commons:Village_pump. Do you agree? Hettie (talk) 12:36, 8 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
I agree. J 1982 (talk) 14:08, 8 April 2010 (UTC)Reply
Done so. Let's continue there. Hettie (talk) 14:27, 8 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hallo J 1982. Meanwhile the discussion about this topic at the village pump gives me the impression that it would be wiser to stop dividing countries - specially small country-categories - by year. I notice that you did not give your input there. May I invite you to do so? Hettie (talk) 20:46, 21 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

Natural disasters

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Hi, please notify that I have changed recently the template for natural disasters, see Category:1977 natural disasters --anro (talk) 20:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)Reply


Category:1994 in Honduras

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Since there are hardly any convincing argument why these country-by-year cats are necessary, I nominated this one for deletion. It might bring up some arguments which were kept hidden until now. As you notice, I'd like to be convinced. --Hettie (talk) 14:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

File:DBP 1964 416 Hauptstädte Hannover.jpg

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Can you please show me, why added these 2 cats (category:29 April and category:April 1964) to this stamp? There is no annually at all and for the month/year there is also no reasonable point to this stamp. Don't forget, for the hole Germany and its former states from 1850 until now there are about 7.000 stamps on commons and more to come additionally thousands of stamps from other countries. Every single stamp is (or should be) categorized in a similar way of category:1964 Deutsche Bundespost stamps which is a subcat of category:1964 stamps of Germany and so later also a subcat of 1964 as well. I think I'll remove the overcat of this stamp because it isn't useful and out of scope for a stamp (except such stamps which may have a very dedicated reason, theme, for a more exact date). NobbiP talk 21:26, 27 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

OK. Remove it. Maybe it will be split into months like category:April 1964 Deutsche Bundespost stamps when more stamps aeppear in the future, but that's not now. J 1982 (talk) 21:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
ok, done. NobbiP talk 21:34, 27 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Category:1891_stamps_of_the_Falkland_Islands

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1891 stamps of the Falkland Islands has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!


Year templates

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Hi! Thanks for creating templates such as {{Helsinkiyear}}. But please not, that parameters 3 and 4 are completely useless and even harmful because they can be easily misspelled. The same functionally can be achieved by {{#expr:{{{1<noinclude>|0</noinclude>}}}-1}}9 and {{#expr:{{{1<noinclude>|0</noinclude>}}}+1}}0 type expression. In addition, an endash (–) should be used as a delimiter between the years instead of a common dash (-). ––Apalsola tc 12:35, 3 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

You mean what it is called in different languages? J 1982 (talk) 12:43, 3 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
What you mean by different languages? I mean that you should create the templates so that no parameters 3 and 4 are needed. For example, {{Helsinkiyear|201|1}} should be enough instead of {{Helsinkiyear|201|1|2009|2020}}. Anyway, I created a new template, {{Decade years navbox}} which can be used to clean up these templates. See {{Helsinkiyear}} and {{FinArc}} for usage examples. ––Apalsola tc 15:21, 3 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
OK. J 1982 (talk) 15:24, 3 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Category:1949 in Chicago

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Hello. Thanks for your excellent work! When I create new year/place categories I look at nearby years to see if there is a short template version I can copy and when I find it I use that, but I don't always see one. I notice you've replaced the long form with a short template after me in some later cases, thanks. However on Category:1949 in Chicago, it looks like you accidentally put in the Illinois (state) template rather than the Chicago (city) one, so I reverted you. I just wanted to explain my reverts. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 15:41, 4 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Chicago has its own template. J 1982 (talk) 15:47, 4 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, I see it now. Cheers, Infrogmation (talk) 16:15, 4 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Nobelmallar

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Hej! Tack för hjälpen med NobelYear. Vill du ta en titt på {{NobelDecade}} också? Av någon anledningen hamnar inte category:Nobel Prize in the 1900s i huvudmappen. Allt gott, /Urbourbo (talk) 17:50, 6 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Vet inte hur man gör. J 1982 (talk) 18:54, 6 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
OK. /Urbourbo (talk) 22:34, 6 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

User problem

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Your by-year categories are irritating, see COM:AN/U#User:J_1982 and his by year categories. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 19:15, 8 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Hello, J_1982. Pieter's discourteous comment aside, it would be great if you contributed to this discussion. We would benefit from your input. Thanks. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 03:48, 13 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Delete requests

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Hejsan! Du verkar ha föreslagit ett antal (felstavade) kategorier för radering. Men Commons använder inte mallen {{Delete}} på samma satt som vi på sv.wikipedia använder Radera-mallen. För okontroversiella snabbraderingar används här {{Speedy delete}}. När delete-mallen används skall det skapas undersida till Commons:Deletion requests med mera, lite som "vår" SFFR-process. Här på commons kan man klicka på på "Nominate for deletion" som finns i vänstermarginalen. Då görs ett antal saker för att göra en komplett anmälan.

Men, som sagt, för felskrivningar och sådant räcker det med en enkel {{speedy delete|motivering med hänvisning till korrekt stavad kategori}}. Så har iaf jag uppfattat rutinen här. Vänligen --MagnusA (talk) 09:11, 14 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Categories not correct

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Pleas realise that {{SwedenArc|198|3}} means Buildings !! Not ships. --Stunteltje (talk) 15:36, 18 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

There's no point to exclude ships. Just change "buildings" to something other. J 1982 (talk) 15:37, 18 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
See the category-structure. No ship-line involved. --Stunteltje (talk) 19:39, 18 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
The Stunteltje's comment was adding this page to Category:Built in Sweden in 1983 etc., so I added <nowiki> to it. ––Apalsola tc 10:12, 23 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Year–month categories

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Please, stop creating year–month categories for Finland for the 1990s (e.g. Category:June 1997 in Finland). There are so few images from that time on Commons that there are absolutely no need to sort them by month. ––Apalsola tc 01:17, 28 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

I think all Nordic states should start in January 1990. I'm not going to go backwards before that date until we get more images. The images are not so few (not all are probably already categorized by year in at all). J 1982 (talk) 01:18, 28 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
Well, I disagree. I started a formal discussion. See the link below. ––Apalsola tc 01:39, 28 December 2011 (UTC)Reply


Category:September 1990 in Finland

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September 1990 in Finland has been listed at Commons:Categories for discussion so that the community can discuss ways in which it should be changed. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!


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Help in a category

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Can you help me, in a category? I created this category: Category:Christmas 2011 in Brazil. It has a wrong thing there. Eduardo P (talk) 20:00, 29 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Yes, fixed. J 1982 (talk) 20:03, 29 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. Eduardo P (talk) 20:05, 29 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Year categories

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Hi mate, just so you know, there should preferably be categories for "year in the London Borough of X" for London images. I think most boroughs have a "history of the London Borough of X" category created, eg Category:History of the London Borough of Camden has 28 subcats currently. -mattbuck (Talk) 00:59, 2 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

I'm not interested in them. I know nothing about London Boroughs. J 1982 (talk) 01:01, 2 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
....thanks. -mattbuck (Talk) 01:23, 2 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Canada

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Hello. There is absolutely no need to further subdivide pre-2000 Canadian images by month - there is not enough content to make it meaningful or useful. In any event, the vast majority of recent images are not even categorized by month (post 2000), so there is very little need at the moment to go creating month categories for 1970s, 1980s, 1990s-era Canadian images. I don't mean to be critical of how much work you've done generally, which is impressive, but there should always be a reasonable need for month/year/decade categories before they are created. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:12, 3 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Template:Rugbyunionyear

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Hello,

The Category:Years in rugby union is redundant : the categories XXXX in rugby union are sorted twice in Category:Years in rugby union because they are contained in the categories Rugby union in the XXXXs which are already in Category:Years in rugby union. Udufruduhu (talk) 08:48, 13 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Most topics have this sorting. Categoriesl ike Category:Rugby union in the 1880s shall be in a Category:Rugby union by decade (for images from that decade where we don't know specific years). Category:Years in rugby union is used to easally find just the years. J 1982 (talk) 10:33, 13 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
There is no point of separating chronology into two subcategories. The categories Rugby union in the XXXXs can contain both subcategories XXXX in rugby union and files whose specific year is not known. And finding a given year in Category:Years in rugby union is even easier when sorted by decade, because there is thus less categories at the first level. Udufruduhu (talk) 17:28, 13 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Tip: Categorizing images

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Hello, J 1982!
 
Tip: Add categories to your files

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Template:Estoniaeventyear

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Please look at the two cats using this template. 1) There is an error in source text, 2) Estonia is not in Russia. - A.Savin 11:56, 23 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

I tried to make it look like Template:Estoniayear. J 1982 (talk) 12:37, 23 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
Again: Estonia is not a part of Russia. Could you please correct the template, otherwise I must delete it since I have no idea how to correct this. - A.Savin 12:56, 23 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
Agree with A.Savin. What the template intends to do is to put a cat. to Russia if the year is before 1917. But the template does not work. If you are not able to fix it immediately it should be removed (and the categories categorized correctly by hand). It is very unacceptable to categorize Estonia (or any former Soviet republics) post 1991 as Russia, as you should not categorize Karlskrona as Denmark.... Taxelson (talk) 10:56, 24 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

video games by year, date , gaming in 1980 and 1980s

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Is all this neccessary? Category:Video games by date is completely redundant. Category:Video games by year. And many links are red, but containing subcats like Category:Video games of the 1980s. I will fill them with text, so someone can navigate through them. --Kungfuman (talk) 14:17, 28 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes, it's better to put the games in one category, and events and other releated stuff in another. J 1982 (talk) 14:20, 28 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

For instance: "West Germany in the 1980s" and "German Democratic Republic in the 1980s"

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Hello!

You have created a two different categories about the two German states in the 1980s (only an example by year; applies for any other decade of the 40 years of division). This superfluous categorisation is redundant and in some parts not correct. While a deeper categorisation of East-Germany-topics do make sense, a seperate categorisation of "West-Germany" is superfluous, redundant with "Germany" and in some parts simply incorrect. The status now is that you have left behind a unfinished or better an unfinishable inconsistent category monster. Your East and West differentiation is incomplete, as you can see you can se e.g. in Category:Germany in the 1980s: a division of the categories "198X in Germany‎", "Cities in Germany in the 1980s‎", ... and so on would also be necessary (of course for all decades in question). Do you plan to to this, too? Or don't you want to continue? Regards, High Contrast (talk) 11:13, 7 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Hello. Sorry to intrude, but I have to agree with High Contrast. This issue has come up several times before, and the consensus is almost always to stick to current country/place names for year and decade categories. Otherwise, the category structure becomes unmanageable. Think of how difficult the category structure would be to manage or use if we created separate year categories for any jurisdiction that existed within the area now known as Germany. The categories would be useless unless one had an in-depth knowledge of German history. Therefore, when we have a category such as Category:1981 in Germany it means that it contains media from 1981 pertaining to what is today Germany, and there is no need to subdivide it into the states that existed in 1981. Similarly, a category like Category:1770 in the United States does not mean that the United States as a nation existed in 1770, but rather that it contains media pertaining to 1770 in what is today the USA. Any other approach invites great difficulties. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 14:30, 7 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Categorisation of Template:Brnoyear

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Hi, Brno is not in Bohemia, but in Moravia. Bohemia is not synonymous with the Czech Republic. --Uacs451 (talk) 11:23, 9 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Missing date categories

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Hi, if you are running out of inspiration, there are quite some red categories waiting for you. Keep up the good work. --Foroa (talk) 18:36, 21 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Unnecessary date categories

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Please do not create categories such as Category:1986 in transport in Finland. There are so few pre-2000 pictures of Finland in the Commons that fine-categorizing them does more harm than good. BR, ––Apalsola tc 10:14, 31 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

I added some more images. J 1982 (talk) 10:22, 31 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
OK, we have six images for 1986. However, this kind of categorization must be consistent, so we should have images for every year, not only one or two per decade. ––Apalsola tc 10:26, 31 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Remember that not all articles are categorized. I think you can check out images from airports, and like "Vanta in the ... (decade)" to find several aeroplanes. J 1982 (talk) 10:29, 31 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
I opened a formal discussion on these categories. ––Apalsola tc 10:41, 31 March 2013 (UTC)Reply


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Year categorization

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Regarding this, that type of detailed year categorization has been critizized a lot, see for example your own talk page above. Please do not restore them. --MagnusA (talk) 06:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

A lot of users do it all the time without any problem. J 1982 (talk) 11:02, 7 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Här lades det in ett par kategorier om broar och transport, trots att brof-n bara kan anas i bakgrunden. Ta gärna en titt på bilderna först! -- Lavallen 07:44, 8 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

Problems with some year and month categories

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Hello. You see to be receiving a lot of criticism about all of the year and month categories. While I think year categories are often very useful (I don't see much value in month categories, although I acknowledge that they are unavoidable it seems for contemporary images), the problem is that you seem to create them indiscriminately without any regard to need or future maintenance. Up above, you stated "A lot of users do it all the time without any problem", but I have never seen another Commons contributor create as many year and month categories that do not necessarily always seem warranted. You are like a machine creating and categorizing by year and month - while I admire your work ethic and dedication to the project, at a certain point this continual creation of year and month categories on just about any subject is not necessarily helpful for the project. Some category trees in particular, Category:Churches by year of photographing, seem absolutely pointless (while I can see some value in something like Category:Buses by year of photographing as vehicle models rapidly change, and Category:Churches by year of completion allows users to follow historic and architectural trends, but Category:Churches by year of photographing is of questionable use - what is there to say about churches based on how some of them looked in, say, 2003, which by the way is not much different than how those churches looked in other years).

I hate to criticize, because you clearly work hard here at the Commons. But the problem here is twofold. First, you create these multiple year categories, seemingly without regard to whether they are needed or not (just because we have Category:2001 in transport in the United States does not mean that we have enough content overall to create a transport by year category tree for, say, Finland). You populate these categories to some extent, and then you move on to category creation elsewhere, leaving the maintenance of these category trees to others. Second, at a certain point, these year categories become a bit like category-spam - it becomes difficult getting contributors to even bother categorizing images in a basic category like Category:1944 in France, when they are faced with a confusing and unwieldy passel of year and month categories, including spam like category:Rocks photographed in Provence in 1944 (ok, ok, I exagerate with that last one).

There is so much categorization work to be done here on Commons - even making sure that images are appropriately categorized in existing, basic year categories. It admittedly awfully subjective as to whether additional year categories are warranted or not, and I am sure that many users would disagree with some of the ones I have created in the past. But, the issue is that you never seem to slow down and discuss these issues when concerns are raised. You keep ploughing ahead without discussion. Last time I tried to discuss this issue with you, about two years ago, it was like talking to a wall. I really wish you would be more open to the comments of others. Thanks! --Skeezix1000 (talk) 14:15, 10 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

I agree with Skeezix1000. Problem is indeed that the lowest level categories are created first and filled up with one or two samples. People tend to jump in on each new category as they believe that, because they are there, they must be used and expanded.
The by "year photographed" is completely useless as agreed by several people and it takes a lot of energy away from the basic categorisation process while creating plenty of maintenance work.
I spent a majority of my time on cleaning up Special:WantedCategories in an attempt to trap novice uploaders, but the majority of the work is taken by all sorts of by by template generated date categories that keep flooding the list.
Where I disagree is that, once you decide to go for a category tree, that you go for it completely with all structures at all levels and create a reasonable time span. --Foroa (talk) 16:45, 10 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Finland has so few pre 2000 images (yet), that we don't split up that much before 2000. J 1982 (talk) 22:33, 10 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Is that all you took away from this discussion? --Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:46, 12 April 2013 (UTC)Reply
Even though I have done (and still do) some year categorizing work myself, I agree with Skeezix1000. Too extensive time based categorization does more harm than good. There is one additional problem with the pre-digital camera era year month categories: Very often the exact date of an old image is not known at all (quite often event the decade is unknown), so even if we had MONTH YEAR categories, we could only add few images to them. ––Apalsola tc 09:21, 15 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Category:Thanksgiving_by_year

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Kategorierna

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Hej! Jag håller på och hjälper till med kategorierna här på commons och har en fråga. Mall {{År}} (exempelvis {{2013}}) används ju för att skapa kategorierna. Går det att ordna så att varje månad för varje land skapas automatiskt genom denna mall? Obelix (talk) 22:56, 13 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

För det första finns ju inte mallen. Sedan bör man inte skapa tomma kategorier, utan se till att det finns något att stoppa där också. Försök gärna hitta minst en artikel per kategori först, gärna fler. J 1982 (talk) 10:48, 14 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Ok. Personligen tycker jag inte tomma kategorier på commons är något problem. Bara bra att de finns när folk letar efter lämpliga kategorier när de laddar upp bilder. Men konsensus på commons tycker kanske inte det? Obelix (talk) 15:18, 14 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Finns inget förbud vad jag vet, men risken för radering är ändå stor. J 1982 (talk) 15:41, 14 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Okej, märkligt. De gånger jag laddar upp bilder så kollar jag bland de kategorier som redan finns. Finns inte en kategori då så struntar jag i den. Obelix (talk) 17:12, 14 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
Men du kan ju skapa en ny kategori när du laddat upp bilden. Att skapa kategorier fungerar likadant här som till exempel på svwp eller enwp. 18:31, 15 May 2013 (UTC)J 1982 (talk)

Salzburg - Salzburg state

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On 21 October 2011, you added File:Bremgarten-Dietikon-Bahn 1902.jpg into Category:1902 in Berlin. I cannot see any Berlin connection and the caption does not indicate one. Can you remember why you did this?. -- Chris j wood (talk) 16:32, 14 May 2014 (UTC)Reply

File:Belgrade, Yugoslavia, September 1976.jpg

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Hej! Ett par frågor om denna. Du har angett att föräldrarna har tagit bilden, men angett källa {{Own}}. Kan du fixa det? Även om jag finner det sannolikt att du har inhämtat tillstånd för att släppa bilden fritt tror jag att Commons policy behöver OTRS eller liknande försäkran. Är orginalet så suddigt eller har det blivit ett oskarpt foto? Om det senare, kan du ta en ny? --Ainali (talk) 23:09, 11 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Ja, orginalet är suddigt. Ni får gärna ta bort den om ni vill. J 1982 (talk) 17:52, 12 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Standers again

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What is it you do not like about the wording " postally in Ludvika, municipally in Smedjebacken, Sweden"? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:49, 13 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Restored. I don't know how much information these pages shall have. J 1982 (talk) 14:52, 13 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thx! They are only meant to be accurate, and to me you can't have Ludvika without Smedjebacken in that particular case. People who live along that road have lost mail as well as visits because of the confusion there. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:58, 13 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
OK. J 1982 (talk) 15:59, 13 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Hej J 1982, thank you for creating the template <Salzburg by year>. For I don't have any knowledge of creating templates, let me ask you:
1. As you might know, Salzburg refers to the city of Salzburg only, for the federal state by the same name we use Salzburg (state). It would be useful to have also subcategories by year for all 9 Austrian states (Vienna has the status both of a city and of a federal state) and the bigger cities in Austria, which should be - of course - implemented in their corresponding state. Can you create templates like that?
2. Please be so kind to have a look at Category:Salzburg in the 1910s. (I have created this one and 3 more like that.) Is this done correctly? When showing the bottom part of the template Navigating in Salzburg, there seems to be a mistake, because there's an entry called Cities in which is obviously nonsense. Salzburg itself IS a city. I copied the template from another city and changed the name. In other cities' cats referring to decades the enty cities in is not shown. Does this error depend on the Salzburg by year template? Would be nice to have checked that. - Tak så mycket, greetings to Sweden (where I spent my holidays this year)! --Eweht (talk) 23:38, 27 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Meta Cat

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Hi J 1982. Please, pay attention when you create a metacat. A metacat by year must have the template {{metacat|year|....}} not that by decade {{metacat|decade|.....}}. Thank you ! Cheers, --DenghiùComm (talk) 18:56, 9 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Kategorier

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Hej, Tack för hjälpen med kategorierna för bandybilderna. Jag måste lämna arenan nu så jag hinner inte fixa det. Har du möjlighet att byta namnen på alla så att de heter Kareby (och inte Kaleby) och ändra bildbeskrivningarna till rätt klubbnamn vore det en jättehjälp.--ArildV (talk) 22:26, 13 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Fixat nu. Skall du gå på herrmatcher i dag? Det är både final och bronsmatch. J 1982 (talk) 09:57, 14 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi J 1982, why did you categorize the picture above in GDR? Celle is a City in Lower Saxony "DE:Niedersachsen" NobbiP 11:58, 5 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Kategorier som skymmer mer än visar

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Hej, du har ju visserligen tekniskt rätt att det går att se taxi och buss i filmen (med syftning på din redigering här). Men skälet till att jag tog bort kategorierna är för att de inte tillför ringa värde för den som verkligen letar efter media som har en taxi eller buss i sig. Med denna sorts kategorisering kommer det inte gå att hitta något vettigt då i princip alla bilder i stadsmiljö kommer att ligga i typ alla kategorier som finns i stadsmiljön. Konsekvensen blir helt enkelt att kategorisystemet urvattnas. Eller, det är min farhåga i alla fall. Ainali (talk) 09:46, 31 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

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If you want to do this even for photos of things that would look pretty much the same for half the year (I'm not sure of the value of that, but I suppose it's OK), wouldn't it be simpler to just place all the Category:October YEAR in Seattle categories in Category:Autumn in Seattle than to hit individual photos? - Jmabel ! talk 16:37, 17 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

[https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Seattle_-_E._Madison_St._sidewalk_routed_around_trees_in_Madison_Valley.jpg&curid=44122145&diff=175959766&oldid=175249753 Similarly: why not just put Category:October 2015 in Seattle in Category:Autumn 2015 in the United States, instead of an individual photo? - Jmabel ! talk 16:40, 17 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Because not all images of October 2015 in Seattle show autumn. It shows anything in that town during that month. Autumn 2015 in the United States mostly deals with nature. J 1982 (talk) 16:42, 17 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Category

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Hello J 1982, why did you remove this category? --Wikiwal (talk) 13:28, 13 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

I moved it to Category:Church organs in Sweden. J 1982 (talk) 13:29, 13 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
I see. Category:Pipe organs in Sweden is the parent cat of Category:Church organs in Sweden. But not all church organs are pipe organs. I'm not convinced that the parent category is right. In other countries this is not the case, compare for example Category:Pipe organs in Germany and Category:Church organs in Germany. Best wishes, --Wikiwal (talk) 13:47, 13 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
Maybe there should be a special category for Category:Church pipe organs in Sweden to avoid double-categoriziation. J 1982 (talk) 13:51, 13 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
Maybe. But not all pipe organs are in churches and not all church organs have pipes. I would prefer to delete Category:Pipe organs in Sweden as parent cat of Category:Church organs in Sweden. But this is complicated because Category:Church organs by country ist the subcategory of Category:Pipe organs by country --Wikiwal (talk) 14:09, 13 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
But all Category:Church pipe organs in Sweden are inside curches and have pipes. J 1982 (talk) 14:17, 13 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
That's right. But for the other cases we still need both categories. There are some inconsequences but in my opinion no need to change the whole system. It is as it is. Thanx for thinking about! --Wikiwal (talk) 15:54, 13 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
I think you can create Category:Church pipe organs in Germany (and other countries) if you need. J 1982 (talk) 16:42, 13 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Category:Wooden churches in Sweden by county

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Hey J 1982 this category might be superfluos when all wooden churches in sweden are sortet by county --anro (talk) 16:48, 4 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Some will be sorted by municipality. I think both can be good if you don't know which county a municipality is. J 1982 (talk) 16:50, 4 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Namn på kategori

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Varför används det Category:Sweden photographs taken on 2015-02-08 när den ligger under Category:Photographs of Sweden by date? Borde inte datumkategorin då bli Category:Photographs of Sweden taken on 2015-02-08? "Sweden photographs" låter märkligt i mina öron, även om min engelska är begränsad. /Hangsna (talk) 19:40, 19 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Jag håller nog med dig, men jag följde bara den standard som fanns tidigare. J 1982 (talk) 21:19, 19 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
Aha. Överkategorin heter Category:February 2016 Sweden photographs och över det Category:2016 photographs of Sweden. Det hela känns väldigt inkonsekvent. Men å andra sidan, om det är konsekvent med alla länder och datum så är ju standarden också ett sätt att vara konsekvent. /Hangsna (talk) 09:31, 20 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
Det fanns "Sweden photographs taken on x-date" redan innan jag började lägga till fler. Det är ganska svårt att få till enhetlig standard här. J 1982 (talk) 09:35, 20 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Senator2029 23:28, 21 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

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if there is a category, where all files where taken at the same day and the same place, would you please be so kind not to categorize the individual files in the category, but the cagegory page itself with this information. the way you do it now cloggs up my watchlist. --C.Suthorn (talk) 08:40, 4 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

But not all files in a category may be photographs taken that day, some can be references or video films. J 1982 (talk) 11:46, 4 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

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Category:Sports_by_country_by_year

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Denniscabrams (talk) 18:10, 6 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Heads-up

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diff. You've added this category at long long time ago. It looks wrong to me. If it isn't, please feel free to add it back. Cheers. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 18:23, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

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