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:::: I agree with Jmabel here, no reason to censor just a zip code (if the additional four numbers were there, those should be censored.) Pittsburgh is a big city, no reason to censor that. [[User:Abzeronow|Abzeronow]] ([[User talk:Abzeronow|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::I agree with Jmabel and Abzeronow. -- [[User:Ooligan|Ooligan]] ([[User talk:Ooligan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
== New ANU guideline ==
I think we need a guideline for the [[Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems]]. In the past there were many reports on cases they would not require any admin action and could have been solved on other discussion pages. And there are many cases where there was a reason for the report and the discussion on the page ran totally out of bound sometimes leading to a block of both sides. Therefore I think we should add these two rules:
* '''Talk before''': Before reporting an user on the page you have to talk to them on the problem on another discussion page first. This is not needed for cases of harassment, insults or similar.
* '''Do not respond''': The user on whom the report is must not reply to the report until an admin asks them to share their view on the complaint.
What do you think on this? [[User:GPSLeo|GPSLeo]] ([[User talk:GPSLeo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{s}}. The first requirement is already present in the 1st line of the Notes on COM:ANU. However, the bolded "command" "''Talk before''" might be helpful to really get through to the posters. --[[User:Túrelio|Túrelio]] ([[User talk:Túrelio|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{s}} per Túrelio. <small><sub><span style="color:SteelBlue;">Regards, </span></sub></small>[[User:Aafi|<span style="font-family:sans-serif; color:#4682B4; text-shadow:.2em .2em .4em #AfAfB1;">'''Aafi'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aafi|<sup> '' (talk)''</sup>]] 15:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
*{{o}} - As noted above, the first is ''already present'' as the very first bullet: "Before reporting one or more users here, try to resolve the dispute by discussing with them first. (Exception: obvious vandal accounts, spambots, etc.)" If bolding or other emphasis is desired to make if more prominent, just make the change. If users already ignore the existing instructions (of course, they do) adding even more instructions resolves nothing. The second, that users accused of disruption rising to the level of requiring admin intervention, the very premise of ANU, ''require admin permission even to respond to the public concern'' is absolutely absurd, fundamentally unfair, and seeks to make admins "super users". You may not speak in your defense unless another user says so? This is a grossly ill-considered suggestion. [[User:elcobbola|<span style="color:#038"><i>'''Эlcobbola'''</i></span>]] <sub>[[User talk:elcobbola|talk]]</sub> 15:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
*{{o}} strong oppose to point 2. Although I'm an admin so I guess I'd be exempt from the effect of this unless it was reworded as "uninvolved admin", this is a recipe for allowing people to make a misleading attack on someone and giving them no chance to defend themselves. Imagine not being able to say, for example "If you look through the history you will see that this person has altered the exchange in a misleading way" or "for those who are relying on Google Translate, where it says he called me a 'butterfly' he was actually using a homophobic slur. That is what I was responding to."
: Also, if people can't respond directly, we are going to see a lot more tit-for-tat AN/U threads.
: On the other hand, I think it ''is'' reasonable for an admin to tell the subject of an AN/U (or the complainant) that they are going on at excessive length and should confine their further comments there to when they are directly asked for a response. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 17:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
::Maybe a short explanation on this point: My idea was to handle this a bit more like it would be done in real world equivalents to this process. There is always a moderator hearing what one side says and then asks the other side for a general statement or a statement on a specific question. And for us it is also good to slow down the process as there are often reports and then long discussions of the involved users before any other person read this report. If the problem can be solved without a third party moderation we are back to the "talk before" rule. [[User:GPSLeo|GPSLeo]] ([[User talk:GPSLeo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:39, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
{{o}} it is kinda unnecessary. system is working already. people still gonna got banned or still making topics without asking first to other party. nothing will be changed. [[User:Modern primat|'''modern_primat''']]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Modern primat|ඞඞඞ]]</sup><sup>[[User talk:Modern primat| ----TALK]]</sup> 22:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
== [[User talk:PenelopeThePigeon]] ==
Hi--can someone block this child? Thanks, [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:57, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
: {{d}} [[User:Abzeronow|Abzeronow]] ([[User talk:Abzeronow|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
== Abuse filter blocked ==
:I'd have deleted this under F10 but the uploader is not a non-contributor. I would appreciate any kind opinions as well. <small><sub><span style="color:SteelBlue;">Regards, </span></sub></small>[[User:Aafi|<span style="font-family:sans-serif; color:#4682B4; text-shadow:.2em .2em .4em #AfAfB1;">'''Aafi'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aafi|<sup> '' (talk)''</sup>]] 03:17, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
::{{ddone|Gone}} [[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]] ([[User talk:Bedivere|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Sebastian 1999|Sebastian 1999]] [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard&diff=903025802&oldid=903021692 Please don't modify others' comments as you did here]. It was not a typo. Thanks. [[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]] ([[User talk:Bedivere|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:15, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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