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:::::::Sure, I would. Basically this question will need to be decided for all Harcourt photos at the VPC discussion anyway. --[[User:Rosenzweig|<span style="color:#0000CD">Rosenzweig</span>]] [[User talk:Rosenzweig|<span style="color:#8D38C9">'''''τ'''''</span>]] 10:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::::OK. I reverted my closure. Please note that similar DRs were closed as kept by other admins, i.e. [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:MarinaVlady-1952-Harcourt.png]]. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
: Okay, here's another case, I believed that {{user|Yann}} wrongly closed [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:28码脚型飞机杯(右脚).jpg]], although the user has pointed out on Yann's talk page[[User_talk:Yann#c-Lemonaka-20240710090000-Dronebogus-20240708233700]], they showed an [[:w:WP:IDHT]] attitude. [[User:Lemonaka|Lemonaka]] ([[User talk:Lemonaka|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
 
:: There's no previous DR for this photo, if you searched DR Archive, and this closure is truly not good. [[User:Lemonaka|Lemonaka]] ([[User talk:Lemonaka|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:43, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
== Редактирование фотографии ==
:::In that case (of a file kept currently), can you just request deletion again asking for a closure by another admin? Obviously we don't want to encourage asking for third, forth admins etc redundantly, but asking for a second opinion seems reasonable if the previous discussion was not substantial. Note also that this section is about "wheel-warring". [[User:Whym|whym]] ([[User talk:Whym|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:22, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
 
Конкурс «Вики любит Землю — 2024» в Казахстане
 
Я забыла указать координаты местности, где были сделаны фотографии.
 
Подскажите, пожалуйста, как можно внести эти данные? [[User:TatynaVK|TatynaVK]] ([[User talk:TatynaVK|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 
: Просто редактируйте страницу файла, заполнив или добавив шаблон {{tl|Location}}. --[[User:EugeneZelenko|EugeneZelenko]] ([[User talk:EugeneZelenko|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
::Спасибо!
::Правда я уже успела добавить координаты, нажав кнопку "Добавить примечание". Я неправильно сделала?
::Если честно, то после добавления примечаний, координаты отражаются в Лицензировании. Но я не знаю правильно ли это?
::Я впервые на Вики. И не совсем поняла где этот шаблон найти? Чтобы уже правильно сделать.
::Подскажите, в какой из этих категорий нужно внести правку по координатам? На странице файла я нашла редактирование:
::# Краткой подписи
::# Краткого описания
::# Лицензирования
::[[User:TatynaVK|TatynaVK]] ([[User talk:TatynaVK|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
::Я кликнула на [[Template:Location|<nowiki>{{Location}}</nowiki>]] Попала в шаблон. А дальше "темный лес"....
::Понятно, что ничего НЕ понятно...
::Вы не могли бы как то по простому объяснить, что где нажать.
::Пошагово так сказать. [[User:TatynaVK|TatynaVK]] ([[User talk:TatynaVK|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:13, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
::: @[[User:TatynaVK|TatynaVK]] вот так: {Location|59.9125|29.75}. Широта - долгота. [[user:MBH|MBH]] 16:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Сорри! Где это надо поставить? Я понимаю, что Вы профи и Вам все ясно. Но все таки для особо "талантливых" где именно это надо поставить? [[User:TatynaVK|TatynaVK]] ([[User talk:TatynaVK|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:31, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::Через Google Translate: шаблон {{tl|location}}, который в идеале должен обозначать местоположение камеры, может располагаться в любом месте страницы файла. Наиболее распространенными местами являются либо раздел «description» {{tl|information}}, либо сразу после {{tl|information}}.
 
== Delete file history ==
 
I'm requesting the deletion of [[:Special:Permalink/900077611|this revision]] of the [[:File:Avv.Prof. Francesco Del Bene.jpg]] since there were some personal info (phone number and mail address). --[[User:Mannivu|<span style="color:#008080; font-weight:bold; font-family:BankFuturistic;">M</span><span style="color:#008080;">annivu</span>]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;·</span> [[User talk:Mannivu|<span style="font-weight:bold; font-family:Courier; color:#A72020;">✉</span>]] 15:52, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
: '''Done''' - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 17:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== DelReqHandler April issue ==
 
As noted [[Commons:Village_pump/Technical#DelReqHandler_broken_for_April_requests?|here]], there's an issue with DelReqHandler on [[Commons:Deletion requests/2024/04]] - the usual keep/delete links only start to appear somewhere in the middle of the April 18 requests, all requests earlier in the month are missing them, any idea what the cause may be and how to fix? [[User:Gestumblindi|Gestumblindi]] ([[User talk:Gestumblindi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:32, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== [[:File:FEC Thomas Crooks Donation 202102049425215728 189746.pdf]] ==
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:::: I agree with Jmabel here, no reason to censor just a zip code (if the additional four numbers were there, those should be censored.) Pittsburgh is a big city, no reason to censor that. [[User:Abzeronow|Abzeronow]] ([[User talk:Abzeronow|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::I agree with Jmabel and Abzeronow. -- [[User:Ooligan|Ooligan]] ([[User talk:Ooligan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== suppress ==
 
I think at least the edit summary should be suppressed [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Norm_Ender.jpg&oldid=637634236 here]. [[User:Tehonk|Tehonk]] ([[User talk:Tehonk|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
:&#42;poof&#42; [[User:DMacks|DMacks]] ([[User talk:DMacks|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Gjergjan.jpg]] ==
 
This was closed as '''delete''' however it seems the file never was deleted if any admin can fix that. [[User:Jonteemil|Jonteemil]] ([[User talk:Jonteemil|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
: {{d}} File deleted. [[User:Abzeronow|Abzeronow]] ([[User talk:Abzeronow|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:58, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== Allow overwriting ==
 
See [[Template talk:Allow overwriting]]. I am a bit concerned that the template redirect might not work as intended. Should the abuse filters be edited? --[[User:Geohakkeri|Geohakkeri]] ([[User talk:Geohakkeri|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:39, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 
:@[[User:Geohakkeri|Geohakkeri]]: I share your concern. &nbsp; — 🇺🇦<span style="font-size:115%;background:#FFA">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff G.]]</span> ツ<small> please [[Template:Ping|ping]] or [[User:Jeff G./talk|talk to me]]</small>🇺🇦 15:21, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== New ANU guideline ==
 
I think we need a guideline for the [[Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems]]. In the past there were many reports on cases they would not require any admin action and could have been solved on other discussion pages. And there are many cases where there was a reason for the report and the discussion on the page ran totally out of bound sometimes leading to a block of both sides. Therefore I think we should add these two rules:
* '''Talk before''': Before reporting an user on the page you have to talk to them on the problem on another discussion page first. This is not needed for cases of harassment, insults or similar.
* '''Do not respond''': The user on whom the report is must not reply to the report until an admin asks them to share their view on the complaint.
What do you think on this? [[User:GPSLeo|GPSLeo]] ([[User talk:GPSLeo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{s}}. The first requirement is already present in the 1st line of the Notes on COM:ANU. However, the bolded "command" "''Talk before''" might be helpful to really get through to the posters. --[[User:Túrelio|Túrelio]] ([[User talk:Túrelio|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{s}} per Túrelio. <small><sub><span style="color:SteelBlue;">Regards, </span></sub></small>[[User:Aafi|<span style="font-family:sans-serif; color:#4682B4; text-shadow:.2em .2em .4em #AfAfB1;">'''Aafi'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aafi|<sup> '' (talk)''</sup>]] 15:16, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
*{{o}} - As noted above, the first is ''already present'' as the very first bullet: "Before reporting one or more users here, try to resolve the dispute by discussing with them first. (Exception: obvious vandal accounts, spambots, etc.)" If bolding or other emphasis is desired to make if more prominent, just make the change. If users already ignore the existing instructions (of course, they do) adding even more instructions resolves nothing. The second, that users accused of disruption rising to the level of requiring admin intervention, the very premise of ANU, ''require admin permission even to respond to the public concern'' is absolutely absurd, fundamentally unfair, and seeks to make admins "super users". You may not speak in your defense unless another user says so? This is a grossly ill-considered suggestion. [[User:elcobbola|<span style="color:#038"><i>'''Эlcobbola'''</i></span>]]&nbsp;<sub>[[User talk:elcobbola|talk]]</sub> 15:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
*{{o}} strong oppose to point 2. Although I'm an admin so I guess I'd be exempt from the effect of this unless it was reworded as "uninvolved admin", this is a recipe for allowing people to make a misleading attack on someone and giving them no chance to defend themselves. Imagine not being able to say, for example "If you look through the history you will see that this person has altered the exchange in a misleading way" or "for those who are relying on Google Translate, where it says he called me a 'butterfly' he was actually using a homophobic slur. That is what I was responding to."
: Also, if people can't respond directly, we are going to see a lot more tit-for-tat AN/U threads.
: On the other hand, I think it ''is'' reasonable for an admin to tell the subject of an AN/U (or the complainant) that they are going on at excessive length and should confine their further comments there to when they are directly asked for a response. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 17:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
::Maybe a short explanation on this point: My idea was to handle this a bit more like it would be done in real world equivalents to this process. There is always a moderator hearing what one side says and then asks the other side for a general statement or a statement on a specific question. And for us it is also good to slow down the process as there are often reports and then long discussions of the involved users before any other person read this report. If the problem can be solved without a third party moderation we are back to the "talk before" rule. [[User:GPSLeo|GPSLeo]] ([[User talk:GPSLeo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:39, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
{{o}} it is kinda unnecessary. system is working already. people still gonna got banned or still making topics without asking first to other party. nothing will be changed. [[User:Modern primat|'''modern_primat''']]<sup> [[Special:Contributions/Modern primat|ඞඞඞ]]</sup><sup>[[User talk:Modern primat| ----TALK]]</sup> 22:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== [[User talk:PenelopeThePigeon]] ==
 
Hi--can someone block this child? Thanks, [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:57, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
: {{d}} [[User:Abzeronow|Abzeronow]] ([[User talk:Abzeronow|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== Abuse filter blocked ==
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:::::That was another problem now solved. But this problem got no hits during this time. [[User:GPSLeo|GPSLeo]] ([[User talk:GPSLeo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::{{Ping|GPSLeo}} Please check once again. [[Special:AbuseLog/10790866]] doesn’t look good. --[[User:Geohakkeri|Geohakkeri]] ([[User talk:Geohakkeri|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:11, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::It isn’t enough to check whether the new wikitext includes the template (or one of its various spellings) but the filter must also check that the template ''wasn’t there already''. One way to do that is indeed to read <code>added_line</code>s (as the filter used to do previously). --[[User:Geohakkeri|Geohakkeri]] ([[User talk:Geohakkeri|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== Nuke untranslated pages ==
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Thanks! [[User:Sinigh|Sinigh]] ([[User talk:Sinigh|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:28, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
: {{d}} Edit request has been fulfilled. [[User:Abzeronow|Abzeronow]] ([[User talk:Abzeronow|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:25, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== Wiki Loves Earth in Ukraine: Request for MassMessage ==
 
Hello! I have a quick request from the organizing team of Wiki Loves Earth in Ukraine. We'd like to send an invitation-reminder about the last days of the contest to those who participated in previous-year editions but haven't taken part in this one.
 
Here's [[User:OlesiaLukaniuk (WMUA)/Вікі любить Землю 2024 Екватор конкурсу#«Вікі любить Землю» 2024: декілька днів до завершення української частини конкурсу!|text of the message]], and here's the [[User:OlesiaLukaniuk (WMUA)/WLE Ukraine 2024|list of receivers]]. Thanks! [[User:OlesiaLukaniuk (WMUA)|OlesiaLukaniuk (WMUA)]] ([[User talk:OlesiaLukaniuk (WMUA)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
 
:Hello @[[User:OlesiaLukaniuk (WMUA)|OlesiaLukaniuk (WMUA)]]. {{done}} I have taken care of this. <small><sub><span style="color:SteelBlue;">Regards, </span></sub></small>[[User:Aafi|<span style="font-family:sans-serif; color:#4682B4; text-shadow:.2em .2em .4em #AfAfB1;">'''Aafi'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aafi|<sup> '' (talk)''</sup>]] 14:49, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
{{section resolved|1=<small><sub><span style="color:SteelBlue;">Regards, </span></sub></small>[[User:Aafi|<span style="font-family:sans-serif; color:#4682B4; text-shadow:.2em .2em .4em #AfAfB1;">'''Aafi'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aafi|<sup> '' (talk)''</sup>]] 14:52, 22 July 2024 (UTC)}}
 
== Ophrys ==
 
Please make User:Orchi stop incorrectly editing categories of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ophrys_holosericea_gracilis_(B%C3%BCel_%26_al._1973).jpg
 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ophrys_holoserica must be corrected into: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ophrys_holosericea
 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ophrys_holoserica_-_inflorescences must be corrected into: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ophrys_holosericea_-_inflorescences
 
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ophrys_holoserica must be corrected into https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ophrys_holosericea
{{#invoke:Autotranslate|autotranslate|base=Unsigned|1=Elena Regina|2=|3=}}
:I replied at [[User talk:Jeff G./IP]] and wrote to the user. &nbsp; — 🇺🇦<span style="font-size:115%;background:#FFA">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff G.]]</span> ツ<small> please [[Template:Ping|ping]] or [[User:Jeff G./talk|talk to me]]</small>🇺🇦 10:37, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== Revdel request ==
 
Can the first admin who is willing email me and then post that you've responded on this thread? Thanks. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
* {{d}} (the email, that is) - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 03:57, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== Restricted permission to create Data namespace files? ==
 
I'm enriching information about the archaeological site of Dura-Europos, and working thorugh the process of creating geoshapes for individual buildings within the site for map visualization; I have successfully created these shapes previously in the Data namespace on Commons and connected them to their WD items and Pleiades records. However, upon trying to run through my usual workflow yesterday, suddenly I'm running into an unexpected message when I try to select a new name in the Data namespace: upon selecting a namespace that I expect to be free (as per my usual process), I get a message that I don't have the "permission to create this page". (See screenshot). This is new, and not a prompt I have experienced before, and I'm especially surprised since I just uploaded a geoshape using the same workflow only a few hours prior! Can someone help me figure out what's going on? [[User:Ahc84|Ahc84]] ([[User talk:Ahc84|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
[[File:AHC84 Data namespace issue screenshot.png|thumb]] [[User:Ahc84|Ahc84]] ([[User talk:Ahc84|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
 
:I think you forgot to add <code>.tab</code> to the end of the filename. --[[User:Geohakkeri|Geohakkeri]] ([[User talk:Geohakkeri|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:02, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you! Indeed, that was the error! All fixed! [[User:Ahc84|Ahc84]] ([[User talk:Ahc84|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== Please delete [[:Category:Aircraft by location by airline]] to make way for a move ==
 
[[:Category:Aircraft by airline by location]] needs to be moved to that name. Alternatively, if you want to just do the move that would also be fine. There are almost 3,000 subcategories, so I'd be happy to take care of recategorizing those if you want. Thanks. -- [[User:Auntof6|Auntof6]] ([[User talk:Auntof6|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:11, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
: {{ping|Auntof6}} removal done. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 04:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]]: Thanks! -- [[User:Auntof6|Auntof6]] ([[User talk:Auntof6|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== Uploader request for deletion ==
 
I feel this [[:File:Sebastian me.jpg]] doesn't meet G7 and converted it into a regular deletion. However, the uploader wants it to be speedily deleted. If any admin feels it should be deleted speedily, please do act on this courtesy deletion request. <small><sub><span style="color:SteelBlue;">Regards, </span></sub></small>[[User:Aafi|<span style="font-family:sans-serif; color:#4682B4; text-shadow:.2em .2em .4em #AfAfB1;">'''Aafi'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aafi|<sup> '' (talk)''</sup>]] 03:13, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
 
:I'd have deleted this under F10 but the uploader is not a non-contributor. I would appreciate any kind opinions as well. <small><sub><span style="color:SteelBlue;">Regards, </span></sub></small>[[User:Aafi|<span style="font-family:sans-serif; color:#4682B4; text-shadow:.2em .2em .4em #AfAfB1;">'''Aafi'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aafi|<sup> '' (talk)''</sup>]] 03:17, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
::{{done|Gone}} [[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]] ([[User talk:Bedivere|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Sebastian 1999|Sebastian 1999]] [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard&diff=903025802&oldid=903021692 Please don't modify others' comments as you did here]. It was not a typo. Thanks. [[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]] ([[User talk:Bedivere|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:15, 25 July 2024 (UTC)