Wikidata:Property proposal/blocked on the territory of

blocked on the territory of

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

   Not done

Description	administrative unit, where this web-resource is blocked (de-jure or de-facto)
Represents	websites and client-applications, i. e. instances of subclasses network service (Q1640628), software (Q7397)
Data type	Item
Domain	administrative territorial entity (Q56061)
Example 1	⟨ Google Search (Q9366)    ⟩ blocked on the territory of Search ⟨ mainland China (Q19188) ⟩ start time (P580) ⟨ 2010 ⟩ statement is subject of (P805) ⟨ list of websites blocked in mainland China (Q870398)    ⟩
Example 2	⟨ LinkedIn (Q213660)    ⟩ blocked on the territory of Search ⟨ Russia (Q159) ⟩ start time (P580) ⟨ 17 November 2016 ⟩
Example 3	⟨ Change.org (Q3090589)    ⟩ blocked on the territory of Search ⟨ Belarus (Q184) ⟩ start time (P580) ⟨ 12 August 2012 ⟩
Example 4	⟨ Wikipedia (Q52)    ⟩ blocked on the territory of Search ⟨ Russia (Q159) ⟩ start time (P580) ⟨ 24 August 2015 ⟩ end time (P582) ⟨ 25 August 2015 ⟩ statement is subject of (P805) ⟨ block of Wikipedia in Russia (Q21636163)    ⟩
Example 5	⟨ Telegram (Q15616276)    ⟩ blocked on the territory of Search ⟨ Iran (Q794) ⟩ start time (P580) ⟨ 30 April 2018 ⟩

Motivation

Internet censorship (Q22696) is a common thing for today for billions of people. Let's add a property to indicate, why and during which period LinkedIn personal profile ID (P6634) and LinkedIn company or organization ID (P4264) does not work for people in Russia, and Facebook (Q355) in China. Specific Wikipedia language editions may also decorate these resources with templates like ru:Шаблон:Ссылка заблокирована Роскомнадзором --Lockal (talk) 20:18, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Comment do you mean "blocked" as being unable to read or to write/send stuffs ? Anyhow, that should be sourced. And be clear to the extent of the blockading : does it applies to citizens on this territory? Can a tourist Russian edit Wikipedia when he's abroad ? With his computer or his nickname....? Bouzinac (talk) 20:30, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

  By "blocked" I mean that there was either federal/regional court decision or a specific document from an executive body with the rights to block Internet resources (e. g. blocking of Telegram in Russia (Q51991992)), or there were no official documents, but the fact of blocking was recorded by the mass media (e. g. block of Wikipedia in Turkey (Q29597631)). Indeed, all these cases should be sourced. There are common procedures and legislative acts for blocking web-resources like ru, tr, by - all of them are targeted to internet, content and service providers, and only on the territory, where this document is in force. There is no split for foreign/local users, afaik. This property is applicable only for websites, not for people, organizations, medicines, etc. --Lockal (talk)

  •  Oppose

1. See Wikidata:Property proposal/banned in - may be a duplicate?
2. And also, such information is not easy to verify (especially with start time (P580)). For example, the start time (P580) of the first example is wrong.

--GZWDer (talk) 08:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

• • • "the start time (P580) of the first example is wrong" - could you clarify this? I took this date from en:List of websites blocked in mainland China (source is there). I just did not provide sources in examples, well, because it is hard to simulate such information with wiki-markup (and nobody cares about it on property proposals pages). --Lockal (talk) 10:46, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
    • Yeah, but the source in English Wikipedia refers to Google China (Q1011981) (google.cn), not google.com.--GZWDer (talk) 16:49, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Answer to 1). This is definitely not a duplicate of Wikidata:Property proposal/banned in. I've described the difference here. --Lockal (talk) 11:34, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Oppose use prohibits (P8739) as now done in block of Wikipedia in Russia (Q21636163) ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 12:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

  @ChristianKl:, your suggestion does not answer the problem, described in the Motivation section. How Wikidata clients (like Russian Wikipedia) could use it to mark web-resources, not available in Russia? --Lockal (talk) 19:26, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

  With my model you can write a SPARQL query that asks whether website X was prohibited in jurisdiction X and if so from when to when. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 19:36, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

  Ignoring the fact that SPARQL queries can not be run from Lua/Scribunto (i. e. maybe a bot can update pages on schedule), I don't see it as very feasible, to create "blocking of <resource> in <countryname>" items for each instance of blocking event of notable websites. For end users it would be then much easier to just store list of blocked resources as a wikipage instead of structured data. --Lockal (talk) 20:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

• @Lockal, Bouzinac, GZWDer, ChristianKl:  Not done Stale, no supporting comments. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:29, 9 September 2021 (UTC)