LOST IN TRANSLATION
If only translating What is lost in translation from one language to
was this simple... another? Why?
The trouble with translations
Examples of common
translation issues: But even simple
sentences can be
•Translation websites tricky to translate.
•Translating poetry Why is translating so
•Metaphors (big head: English vs Italian)
difficult?
•Idioms (‘to die’ in different languages)
•Words and nuances that don’t exist in
certain languages (weten/kennen– ‘to
know’)
The example of ‘Humpty Dumpty’ (Lera Boroditsky)
Humpty In English the verb is marked for tense
Dumpty …
(sat not sit), in Indonesian not.
sat on a wall
In Russian: verb marked for tense,
gender (different verb for Mrs Dumpty),
and also for the fact if the action
(sitting) is completed or not
In Turkish: you include in the verb how
you have gathered the information.
The translation of the simple sentence (‘Humpty Dumpty sat
on the wall’) becomes more complicated than expected.
The ‘Humpty Dumpty example’
different languages have different grammatical rules
the linguistic focus of different languages varies.
Why?
(is Chomsky’s idea of a ‘universal grammar’ tenable?)
1) Does the language we speak reflect the way we think?
2) Does the language we speak shape the way we think
and know?
And if we think differently, is it possible to translate?
1) Does the language we speak reflect the
way we think?
‘To have a second language is to have a second soul’
Charlemagne
Is it possible to translate A to B if we A and B
represent different ‘souls’, ‘values’, ‘thoughts’,
concepts etc?
Around 7000 languages in the world: around 7000
different ‘souls”?
What happens if a
language dies?
Does a culture/soul die?
How can we know that people think differently just because they talk differently?
Contentious issue in field of linguistics
Anthropological and cognitive linguistics
Research in field of cognitive science
New research suggests that people who speak different languages do indeed think
differently. These speakers have, for example, different concepts for space, time
and causality. Their perception of the concepts can be measured objectively.
Pormpuraaw (remote Aboriginal Community in Australia)
Absolute cardinal
directions.
Hello: Where are you
going?
1/3 world languages uses
absolute directions for
space.
Necessity to have excellent
sense of orientation.
Space-time: research
pictures temporal order.
(East to West)
Mandarin
Future can be below
Past can be above
Sense of space/time is
influenced by the
language you speak.
Will this have an
influence on the
metaphors you use?
Hebrew: right to left, Aymara (South America: future behind and past in the front)
Japanese
Speakers of Japanese
(and Spanish) prefer to
express causality without
referring to agents.
Memory tests after
video footage
(accidents): different
conclusions.
Subjects of languages
who express agents
would give harsher
punishment to agent.
Examples of
People who speak differently think differently. Boroditsky’s
cognitive
scientific research
Space (Pormpuraaw)
Time (Mandarin)
Causality (English versus Spanish and Japanese)
People who speak different languages do think differently. This
has implications for their way of life and the societies they build.
This, in its turn, implies that language shapes their thought.
2) Does the language we speak shape the way we
think and know?
TOK Questions
To what degree might different
languages shape in their
speakers different concepts of
themselves and the world? What
are the implications of such
differences for knowledge?
Language can also shape thought.
Russian: extra blue
distinguish blue better
Piraha tribe (Brazil) : can’t remember
exact numbers
What do you think? Can
you find more examples
in your own language?
Causality English justice system
Gender bias sexism?
Racist expressions racism?
TOK style question from article.
Does the language we speak shape our cultural
values, or does the influence go the other way, or
both?
TOK Questions
What is the role of language in
sustaining relationships of
authority?
What is the role of language in
creating and reinforcing social
distinctions, such as class, ethnicity
and gender?
Learning another language
Change the way you think?
Are bilingual people more knowledgeable?
TOK
Questions •If people speak more than one
language, is what they know different in
each language?
•Does each language provide a different
framework for reality?
When learning a new language we learn about
human nature
Learning a new language is acquiring a new way of
knowing/perceiving the world
My language influences the way I think.
Translations are too complex to be ever fully
accurate. Some things get ‘lost in translation’
To go a little further… consider
a) How language can deliberately change thought
b) What happens if we take away language
c) Whether language is uniquely a human gift, given
the way language reflects and shapes experience.
a) Can language change thought?
Language and (psycho)therapy
Language and propaganda
Language and religion
Language and manipulation
Language and indoctrination
‘Newspeak’
Language and ‘sales’
‘I can do it’ versus ‘I will fail’
b) What if we take away language?
Can we still think the same way?
Can we experience the world in the same way?
Can we express our thoughts fully in another
language if the word we need does not exist?
Are we still as intelligent? Human?
c) Is language a ‘uniquely human gift’?
Will animals ever be able to use language as we know it?
Case-study: the Bonobo apes
‘Ted Talk’ by Susan Savage-Rumbaugh
http://www.ted.com/talks/susan_savage_rumbaugh_on_apes_that_write.html
5.30 min-8mins: understanding language, learning new things
10.45-12.30 (14 mins) mins: writing
Implications: if these apes can acquire new
language, write and learn concepts, will this change
their thought? Will they become much more
intelligent/sophisticated given language training?
Planet of the apes scenario?
What makes us ‘human’ compared to these Apes?
Conclusion
Things can get ‘lost in translation’
Literal translations are not always possible, nor
desirable
Learning a new language is ‘gaining a new soul’.
The language we speak influences and reflects the
way we know
Our experiences shape our language and our
language can shape our thoughts.
