Discount Rates: The D in The DCF.

DISCOUNT
RATES
The D in the DCF..
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Estimating Inputs: Discount

Rates
At an intuitive level, the discount rate used

should be consistent with both the riskiness
and the type of cashflow being discounted.
Equity versus Firm: If the cash flows being discounted

are cash flows to equity, the appropriate discount rate
is a cost of equity. If the cash flows are cash flows to
the firm, the appropriate discount rate is the cost of
capital.
Currency: The currency in which the cash flows are
estimated should also be the currency in which the
discount rate is estimated.
Nominal versus Real: If the cash flows being discounted
are nominal cash flows (i.e., reflect expected inflation),
the discount rate should be nominal
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Risk in the DCF Model
Risk Adjusted
Cost of equity
Risk free rate in the

currency of analysis
Relative risk of
company/equity in
questiion
Equity Risk Premium

required for average risk
equity
Risk and Cost of Equity: The role of the

marginal investor
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Not all risk counts: While the notion that the cost of equity
should be higher for riskier investments and lower for safer
investments is intuitive, what risk should be built into the cost
of equity is the question.
Risk through whose eyes? While risk is usually defined in
terms of the variance of actual returns around an expected
return, risk and return models in finance assume that the risk
that should be rewarded (and thus built into the discount rate)
in valuation should be the risk perceived by the marginal
investor in the investment
The diversification effect: Most risk and return models in
finance also assume that the marginal investor is well
diversified, and that the only risk that he or she perceives in an
investment is risk that cannot be diversified away (i.e, market
or non-diversifiable risk). In effect, it is primarily economic,
macro, continuous risk that should be incorporated into the
cost of equity.
Discount Rates:
I
The Risk Free
Rate
The Risk Free Rate: Laying the

Foundations
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On a riskfree investment, the actual return is equal to the

expected return. Therefore, there is no variance around the
expected return.
For an investment to be riskfree, then, it has to have
1.
2.
3.
No default risk
No reinvestment risk
It follows then that if asked to estimate a risk free rate:

Time horizon matters: Thus, the riskfree rates in
valuation will depend upon when the cash flow is
expected to occur and will vary across time.
Currencies matter: A risk free rate is currency-specific and
can be very different for different currencies.
Not all government securities are riskfree: Some
governments face default risk and the rates on bonds
issued by them will not be riskfree.
Test 1: A riskfree rate in US dollars!

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In valuation, we estimate cash flows forever (or at

least for very long time periods). The right risk free
rate to use in valuing a company in US dollars would
be
a.
b.
d.
A thirty-year Treasury bond rate (3%)

A TIPs (inflation-indexed treasury) rate (1%)
e.
None of the above
c.
A three-month Treasury bill rate (0.2%)

A ten-year Treasury bond rate (2%)
What are we implicitly assuming about the US

treasury when we use any of the treasury
numbers?
Test 2: A Riskfree Rate in

Euros
Euro Government Bond Rates - January 1, 2016
10.00%
9.00%
8.00%
7.00%
6.00%
5.00%
4.00%
3.00%
2.00%
1.00%
0.00%
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Test 3: A Riskfree Rate in Indian

Rupees
The Indian government had 10-year Rupee bonds

outstanding, with a yield to maturity of about
7.73% on January 1, 2016.
In January 2016, the Indian government had a local
currency sovereign rating of Baa3. The typical default
spread (over a default free rate) for Baa3 rated
country bonds in early 2016 was 2.44%. The riskfree
rate in Indian Rupees is
a.
b.
c.
d.
The yield to maturity on the 10-year bond (7.73%)

The yield to maturity on the 10-year bond + Default spread
(10.17%)
The yield to maturity on the 10-year bond Default spread
(5.29%)
None of the above
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Sovereign Default Spread:

Three paths to the same
destination
Sovereign dollar or euro denominated bonds: Find
sovereign bonds denominated in US dollars, issued

by an emerging sovereign.
CDS spreads: Obtain the traded value for a sovereign

Credit Default Swap (CDS) for the emerging
government.
Default spread = Emerging Govt Bond Rate (in US $)

US Treasury Bond rate with same maturity.
Default spread = Sovereign CDS spread (with perhaps

an adjustment for CDS market frictions).
Sovereign-rating based spread: For countries which

dont issue dollar denominated bonds or have a CDS
spread, you have to use the average spread for other
countries with the same sovereign rating.
Local Currency Government Bond

Rates January 2016
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Approach 1: Default spread from

Government Bonds
The Brazil Default Spread
Brazil 2021 Bond: 6.83%
US 2021 T.Bond: 2.00%
Spread:
4.83%
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Approach 2: CDS Spreads

January 2016
Approach 3: Typical Default

Spreads: January 2016
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Getting to a risk free rate in a currency:

Example
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The Brazilian government bond rate in nominal

reais on January 1, 2016 was 16.51%. To get to
a riskfree rate in nominal reais, we can use one
of three approaches.
Approach 1: Government Bond spread

The 2021 Brazil bond, denominated in US dollars,
has a spread of 4.83% over the US treasury bond
rate.
Riskfree rate in $R = 16.51% - 4.83% = 11.68%
Approach 2: The CDS Spread

The CDS spread for Brazil, adjusted for the US
CDS spread was 5.19%.
Approach 3: The Rating based spread

Brazil has a Baa3 local currency rating from
Moodys. The default spread for that rating is
2.44%
Test 4: A Real Riskfree Rate

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In some cases, you may want a riskfree rate in real

terms (in real terms) rather than nominal terms.
To get a real riskfree rate, you would like a security
with no default risk and a guaranteed real return.
Treasury indexed securities offer this combination.
In January 2016, the yield on a 10-year indexed
treasury bond was 0.75%. Which of the following
statements would you subscribe to?
This (0.75%) is the real riskfree rate to use, if you are
valuing US companies in real terms.
b.
This (0.75%) is the real riskfree rate to use, anywhere in
the world
Explain.
a.
Risk free Rate: Dont have or

trust the government bond rate?
1.
Build up approach: The risk free rate in any currency

can be written as the sum of two variables:
Risk free rate = Expected Inflation in currency + Expected real
interest rate
The expected real interest rate can be computed in one of two ways:
from the US TIPs rate or set equal to real growth in the economy.
Thus, if the expected inflation rate in a country is expected to be 15%
and the TIPs rate is 1%, the risk free rate is 16%
2.
US $ Rate & Differential Inflation: Alternatively, you can

scale up the US $ risk free rate by the differential inflation
between the US
$ and the currency in question:
Thus, if the US $ risk free

rate is 2.00%, the inflation rate in the foreign
! .! "
currency is 15% and the inflation rate in US $ is 1.5%, the foreign
Risk free
ratefree
= is as follows:
Currency
currency
risk
rate
Risk free rate =
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One more test on riskfree

rates
On January 1, 2016, the 10-year treasury bond rate in

the United States was 2.27%, a historic low. Assume
that you were valuing a company in US dollars then,
but were wary about the risk free rate being too low.
Which of the following should you do?
a.
b.
c.
Replace the current 10-year bond rate with a more

reasonable normalized riskfree rate (the average 10-year
bond rate over the last 30 years has been about 5-6%)
Use the current 10-year bond rate as your riskfree rate
but make sure that your other assumptions (about
growth and inflation) are consistent with the riskfree
rate
Something else
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Negative Interest Rates?

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In 2016, there were at least three currencies

(Swiss Franc, Japanese Yen, Euro) with
negative interest rates. Using the
fundamentals (inflation and real growth)
approach, how would you explain negative
interest rates?
How negative can rates get? (Is there a
bound?)
Would you use these negative interest rates as
risk free rates?
If no, why not and what would you do instead?

If yes, what else would you have to do in your
valuation to be internally consistent?
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DISCOUNT

Estimating Inputs: Discount

At an intuitive level, the discount rate used

Equity versus Firm: If the cash flows being discounted

Risk in the DCF Model

Risk free rate in the

Equity Risk Premium

Risk and Cost of Equity: The role of the

The Risk Free Rate: Laying the

On a riskfree investment, the actual return is equal to the

It follows then that if asked to estimate a risk free rate:

Test 1: A riskfree rate in US dollars!

In valuation, we estimate cash flows forever (or at

A thirty-year Treasury bond rate (3%)

None of the above

A three-month Treasury bill rate (0.2%)

What are we implicitly assuming about the US

Test 2: A Riskfree Rate in

Test 3: A Riskfree Rate in Indian

The Indian government had 10-year Rupee bonds

The yield to maturity on the 10-year bond (7.73%)

Sovereign Default Spread:

sovereign bonds denominated in US dollars, issued

CDS spreads: Obtain the traded value for a sovereign

Default spread = Emerging Govt Bond Rate (in US $)

Default spread = Sovereign CDS spread (with perhaps

Sovereign-rating based spread: For countries which

Local Currency Government Bond

Approach 1: Default spread from

Approach 2: CDS Spreads

Approach 3: Typical Default

Getting to a risk free rate in a currency:

The Brazilian government bond rate in nominal

Approach 1: Government Bond spread

Approach 2: The CDS Spread

Approach 3: The Rating based spread

Test 4: A Real Riskfree Rate

In some cases, you may want a riskfree rate in real

Risk free Rate: Dont have or

Build up approach: The risk free rate in any currency

US $ Rate & Differential Inflation: Alternatively, you can

Thus, if the US $ risk free

One more test on riskfree

On January 1, 2016, the 10-year treasury bond rate in

Replace the current 10-year bond rate with a more

Negative Interest Rates?

In 2016, there were at least three currencies

If no, why not and what would you do instead?

Risk free rates in 2016

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