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1 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos confusion

« on: May 03, 2023, 02:43:12 PM »

Real, you are comparing to completely different approaches. You find a pattern, a mechanicsl weakness in
the wheel and you exploit it as much as you can. I respect that. My approach is different. I found a way to be on
top no matter what happens in the game. I consider mine a very Epicurean way to see the world: find the the
easiest, laziest way to win and sail smooth to richness all the way.
If you judge my system solely because you have a different vision, and in that vision I cannot win, it is kinda
dull. I can play as much as I want, as often as I want, without looking for foul wheels, because my approach
works everywhere every time.
My goal is 100 units a day. I can have them in 2 hours or in eight. Those are my parameters. I repeat 3/4 times.
Week, roughly 50 weeks a year, and it is almost a decade. If I am on lucky streak, it is a damn long one...
And the mentality for which if you can't achieve a result then nobody else can, doesn't honor you.

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2 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos confusion

« on: May 02, 2023, 09:00:18 PM »

It is a successful enterprise, you don't get excited by gain your money week after week or month after month.
Every successful entrepreneur would say the same. You do other things, new projects, you have now horizons.
At the end, it became a job. A well paid job, that's all.

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3 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos confusion

« on: May 02, 2023, 06:49:07 PM »

I sit at the table with the goal of winning. My minimal win for a single game is 1 unit (so is a winning, more money
than I had before, even you can understand that).
More than 2/3 of my games ends before the fifth spin. I can play as many games as I want, because at every
game I have more money than before. I did this for several years now.
I played in every casino, in every continent, and in every conditions. My system works so well that I don't have to
sell anything in order to survive (not my system, not books, or even lessons or tutoring, like other people on this
site). I never asked for money or promised anything here, I provided free hints that people are free to follow or
ignore, I have no personal gain in it. The "cult" is unimportant if the leader of that "cult" do not profit from it.
You can discredit as much as you want things you cannot understand or make it yours, but that will not concern
me. If anyone, even a single person, find hints, advices or even the mere existence of hope, a valuable tool to
succeed in this game, I am happy. I ask for no credit or thanks or retribution of any sort.

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4 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos confusion

« on: May 02, 2023, 04:34:33 PM »

Winner, sometimes I am stuck at a table for more than 1 hour to get one unit. It is not the norm, but happens, and
after ten years of playing with basically the same method, with the same calculations, in the same way, and 0
excitment whatsoever I grant you it became extremely boring.
There is no thrill of gambling in my game. What happens always happens in the same way. No decisions are
made at the table, everything is established ahead of time. I start with my bankroll and I get out when my goal is
reached.
At the beginning, when I was playing with small denom chips, the time between spins was excruciating. Now
that I can play High limits tables, it is better but still, is the damn boring game I know way too well.
I diversified my investment and my life because you cannot just do that over and over again. And when I reach
my final goal, I will leave the table to never return.

Keeker, I do not need to memorize numbers. I just use the last outcome as a pivot for my game. If I have to play
dz, ds or what else, I pick to\the section the last number spun is part of.

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5 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos confusion

« on: April 30, 2023, 12:38:56 AM »

Exactly that Keeker. No matter what you choose, you will have the same chance to hit or to get a sleeper, that
why bet selection is for me a myth.
I choose one prefixed way to determine where to put my money so I don't have that complication on top of my
calculations. So, to repeat once and for all, I follow the repeater because makes some variety on an otherwise
boring game, and because I don't have to figure out what to play.

Real, up is exactly the opposite direction to the one you try to push everybody else.
You keep asking for a free system, but nobody has to proof something to you. We share ideas and opinions. The
vast majority is positive and collaborative, some just arrogant I-know-all who do not deserve much attention.

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6 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos confusion

« on: April 25, 2023, 09:03:02 PM »

In situations like this one I really don't know what to do.

Your "understanding" of my way of playing, derived by your studies and your attempt, is not correct, like at all,
but I do not want to disparage your efforts or undermine your results. Moreover, I think your suggestions and hints
can be of some use for other players. Still the assumption, that you get my method and my technique, is
inaccurate.

I tried many times to address the basic point of my way to win the game, and you can be assured that in many
years my way of playing it is changed, not at the core clearly (my basic idea, that I called revolutionary, is still
there and can't be otherwise) but I learned how to get the most out of it (reducing bankroll, increasing
proficiency, and so on and so forth).
My canons, as Reyth wrote them, can be misleading, especially if compared to what I wrote years later. I swear I
always tried to be clear and sincere, and I gave you the most accurate description of what I do without revealing
my system. If there is an apparent contradiction in my statement that can be a) my bad English, b) my bad
teaching skill or c) the lack of the correct frame on your mind to put my informations into.

Let me summarize what I think is important to have in mind if you wish to crack the game.

1) exposition must be the lowest possible at all time and at all costs.
2) increasing in betting must be the slowest and minimal possible.
3) Pay several combinations reduce the pay return (1 dz pays 3 to 1, but if you bet 2 dz, your payout is 3 to 2). No
matter how many en plain you bet, you will always be paid for the one you hit... Think of this till you get it.
4) You increase your debt slowly, you must recover from it at the same pace.
5) The variance work to a certain extent. On average, you will hit 1 every 37 number played. The maximum
variance is 5/2 (this is the mathematical answer to the problem, you have to learn how to apply it), for me is an
average of 1 hit every 60 number played.
6) Aim for a little win that can repeated million times, not the other way around. We are not playing lottery, but
roulette.
7) The more numbers you play, the shorter the game.
Divisors, multiple players, overlapping bets are not the solutions, but a diluition of the problem.
9) The game is statistical. Remember this if you lose, and remember it especially when you win.

hope this helps.

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7 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: My Last Post To Dr. Talos ':(

« on: April 05, 2023, 07:39:33 PM »

Ahahah. This is too funny. It is right though: I don't have the ability to predict the outcome of spins.
Laugh of the day. Thank you

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8 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: My Last Post To Dr. Talos ':(

« on: March 27, 2023, 11:22:56 PM »

Believe me Reyth I know how frustrating can be. try to simplify, to get to the meat of the problem. Take confort
of the long run. If you are 4 hits short, those hits do not need to be massive.
i am sorry I do not have much time nowadays. I open the forum this week for the first time in months.

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9 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: My Last Post To Dr. Talos ':(

« on: March 26, 2023, 12:50:12 PM »

I thi k you are victims of what I define the "Martingale Syndrome": i can lose for 8 spins, but then a lucky shot
give me everything back +1. The limit you impose yourself is there. You do not need to erase your debt that fast.
You walked in it slowly. you get out slowly. How slow you can walk into it is the first goal, while the second is to
use a light progression to get out, using the ratio you can afford as a guiding light (for me was 1 fo 60). it is
simple, but must be perfect in order to work.

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10 Roulette Systems / Re: TRIUMPH

« on: October 02, 2022, 05:42:05 PM »

congratulations. You deserve it.

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11 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 26, 2022, 10:56:07 PM »

One of the things that made me change my way of understand the game, is that my bet changes the payout.
If you bet a double street, your payout is 5 to 1.
if you bet 2 double streets, with one unit each, your payout is 4 to 1.
If you bet 2 units on a double street, your payout is 5 to 1.

If you bet a SU number, your payout is 35 to 1

If you bet 16 different SU, your payout is 20 to 1

I hope is clear.

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12 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 23, 2022, 04:28:51 PM »

Jayhan, yours is a very interesting point, and on which I spent an incredible amount of thoughts.

I think every outcome is a result of so many factor that makes that outcome inevitable. We have to understand
that each wheel has an history, and we are part, or witness, of that history, for a very small portion. Still that
history has a meaning, a power of some sort.
The previous outcomes influences the result of the actual spin, but not the few hundreds we witness. The
thousands and tens of thousands before, make the number just spun "inevitable". Our problem is that we do not
know the full history.
What we could hope is to find an empirical way to understand that balance, if we really want to go down that
path. For me, it is an impossible path to decipher, nevertheless it is a fascinating enigma.
Some people believes there is a secret (hidden) connection between numbers, like brothers that don't resemble
one another at first glimpse, but reveals their shared dna under a detailed examinations. They use mathematical
associations to find that connections. For example, and this is a "secret" someone told me at the table, and he
was winning so I was fascinated by that, number 14 and number 25 often follow one another (American
Roulette). Now, I don't believe this to be true, I write down here just to express a concept.
Let's imagine that a definite group of numbers bring to a specific other group of numbers. How powerful this
information would be? How we can identifiy those groups, I have no idea, but I remember that so many
mathematician of the past (more math wizards I should say) used several method like the Pyramid. I write down
an example for whom do not know this.

last outcomes 3 - 14 - 21

result, adding numbers

4563
9119
1010
111
22
4

numbers to play 22 - 4 and neighbors

I found countless methods like this one, and none of them really worked (or could not work for me) but I wonder if
could be found a way to trace this weird affiliation. It is like the aborigenal misunderstanding so they couldn't
relate pregnancy with sex, but they thought was the prolonged affection that one couple feels reciprocally that
end up with a kid, so to be wrong and right at the same time.

And sure you have Ballistic theorists that relay on mechanical laws and material defects to trim down the
possibile section where ball will land. I don't know if with modern wheels this can still be a thing, but I admit I am
too ignorant of this matter to have a say.

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13 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: September 08, 2022, 07:56:57 PM »

I understand that this hints to a bet selection, but really it is not. If it works, it purely coincidental.
I could use any other way of betting, I would have the exact same results. Even if I play always the same
numbers, in a way, I would have very similar results.

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14 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 08, 2022, 07:53:42 PM »

I had in mind to give you a little hint, but in my rambling flew out of my mind. Sorry.

When you have to recover from a debt, instead of thinking how much you have to win to be in positive, try to think
how to be in the best position to get that recovery.
I make an example to clarify this statement. It is just an example, don't read too much in it.
The best odds you have to win, placing a single units, is an EC bet. When you plan your recovery, think of how
and how much you have to bet to get to that situation. If this is too hard, think of how to get in a situation where is
easier to get to the best position, let's say the second best, in a way. If is still too much to ask, aim for the third
best position.
I am not sure if this is clear enough, but you all are way smarter than me so I am sure you'll figure this out.

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15 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 08, 2022, 07:42:27 PM »

Certainty in Roulette are not many. Nevertheless you can only rely on those to build a winning system.
Dealer Signature, AP, Lucky numbers, all of the list I already put somewhere up here are all perceptions, related
to skill, Personal preference and specific attitude.
I met very good blackjack player, very good Poker players, and very good roulette players. They were more or
less winners, and they had their special set of skill in order to be winners. So, it can be done.
When I say I don't have bet selections, I don't have a specific knowledge of niche topic about roulette, and I say I
don't use this or that in my system, I don't mean they are worthless or false. I just say I don't rely on those things.
I am a very pragmatic person that I hate to lose money. I don't like the uncertainty of gambling. Too much I lost
in this game in the past to like that.
When I had the intuition for my Bertrand, did not came out of thin air. I set the parameters in my mind in days
and weeks before. I wrote down what I was sure to know about the game, and when I wrote down the list I found
out that many certainty weren't really so.
At the end, certainty were the rules of the game (Payouts, Parlay, Minimum bet, Maximus bet...). I was struggling
to find a way to get advantage of the limited house edge. Then, I had an enlightment, but that was there
because I was prepared for it, if you know what I mean.

Because all of this, I try to set up the same table for you. I try to point out all I think really works, so your mind can
find a solution. So many of you had improved their game, other have a winning game, other are so close to a
bulletproof system that is within grasp, and that is all I am about.
I costantly receive your links to games, your explanations, and I see very encouraging results. Last link I received
was a good game with a decent payouts and kinda smooth sailing. I don't think was perfect, but was on the way
there, and I am so happy for that person, that need to keep working and resolve the little knots left to untangle
(you know who you are).

I don't offer solutions. I will not give you the idea. That must come from you. If I think you are doing something
wrong, I will tell you, if I think you are doing something good I will encourage you to walk further. I can't walk for
you, I can't mark with an x where to dig. Please don't ask me that.
You have to doubt. Doubt about what you know about the game. Doubt about what you know about yourself
and your comprehension. Doubt about me and/or my words. Because doubts will move you further, will make
you reconsider your starting point.
If you doubt, you will put a second scrutiny over things. You will confirm or deny what you had before, making
stronger what you confirmed and taking out of your way what you denied.
Without that cleanse, you will not be a winner.

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16 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 08, 2022, 03:13:56 PM »

When I started playing my system some years ago (not decades) the needed bankroll was 1300 units. I started
with the lowest denomination possible and build my way up. Once you get to 1$ chip value, and you play for 10
hours and you pocket 200$, you dream to raise your chips.
Now, 5$ chips means 7500$ in your pocket as a bankroll, 25$ chips means 35000$. 100$ ask for you to bring
130 thousand dollars. Seems reasonable to you?
I knew I had to redesign my system. I reduced the needed bankroll to adapt to my goal. The side effect was
reducing the profit. I already explained the final result.

Now, the adaptability is one of the key ingredients for a mindset that wish to solve this game. If you are too
attached to your prejudices you will never win. As I keep said, consider what is always true in this game. Joe
pointed stuff out, as CrazyK and few others: payout are fixed, is not lottery. A number will come ourlt, sooner or
later. Variance had a limit. You decide what, where and when to play.
The only advantage casinos have is the edge. A formidable advantage for sure, but the only one. I decided to
decrypt roulette because is one of the fairest game out there, just 2.7%.

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17 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 07, 2022, 09:49:46 PM »

airball goes usually for 1$ Units.

Table outside is 25$ to 50$, depends on day and crowd. I never play on weekends. Tuesday to Thursday are
my days, free food and room, treated like a duke (king is too much, I am not like the guys able to put 5000
Dollars on the felt at every spin, and smile when they rack it all out...).

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18 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 07, 2022, 09:25:04 PM »

Because when you win more than 1200$ in a single spin you have to stop your game, wait for the assistant to
bring you money, register your win (and pay taxes on it).
As you can easily understand, playing even 25$ chips, a street with 4 chips will get you to that threshold.
50$ even more easily.
When you wanna play black chips, you need to go at the table.

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19 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 07, 2022, 06:59:20 PM »

I see there is a lot of confusion here. I will try to make myself clear but I know I will only partially succeed.

I am not guiding you to my system. I give you hints and ideas so you develop yours. You all are always mixing
different way of playing, the way I was doing it years ago and now, finding correlation between my explanations
then and today. I allow this confusion to be there because help me hide my way of playing, that I do not wish to
uncover.

I give you my answer in a chaotic way today, because I have no time to track down every question, so forgive me
for that.
Many of you have vary good ideas, in my opinion. Several Paths that deserve to be explored. I cannot mark hard
enough that the whole point is to find a way to keep the balance low. You need to find every strategy that helps
you achieve that. If after a bad streak of 15/20 less than favorable outcomes you are at -12, you are very close to
be a winner. If in the same situation you are -90, the system is dangerous, probably not playable.
For me a non playable system is one that can bust. Is that simple. I cannot allow that to go out of control. To
have that you need to find a strategy, keeping in mind my hints.

Sometimes I raise my bet. Sometimes I hit as soon as I raise my bet. This is a lucky circumstance that allow me to
close the game with a worst ratio than 1/60. A couple or more consecutive shots do just the same.
Sometimes I hit just before I need to raise the bet. In this case as you can easily imagine I don't get much gain
on balance, but I have a huge gain in statistical occurrence. 1/60 ratio is a ratio way higher than the
mathematical occurrence, that is 1/38. The longer the game the easier to reach the even point.

My system wins often, but goes positive not that often. Decreasing that needed bankroll took a toll on profit. I
changed that because I think that gain 1u every 5 spins on average, with a bankroll of 120u is better than win 1u
every 2 spins with a needed bankroll of 800 units. And this is because I can increase my chips value. Increasing
the chip value allow me to use less crowded table in the high limits sections. The wheel makes 40 spins an hour
instead of 10, my profit by hour is 8u instead of 5u.

Suggestion: when you design a system, exceed with the expectations and lower your availability of resource. Let's
say you want to have a system that ask for 500 units bankroll. Design it for 100. You will not be able to get to that
but you will be nowhere close to 500.
Musk suggested to make 50 years plans in 5 years. You will never be able to achieve that, but at the end you will
do things way faster than the original plan.

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20 Questions and Answers / Re: Counting Numbers Played -- Properly

« on: September 06, 2022, 09:26:23 PM »

I play like three players. Every statistic is held independently. That only exception is that I quit all three players if
I win 2 out of three (because 1 profit for 1 spin is a very big profit in my system. I lock it in a way. Going further
with a single player for 12 spins or 20 and profit just 1 extra unit does not make much sense. In the meantime I
can win 6/8 units just restarting the all thing.)

After the first spin, if not successful, I count all three players with their own ratio. Usually 1 of those players is out
kinda fast, so I manage 2 a little longer. In the vast majority of situations, just one last longer than 4/5 spins,
simplifying my computation.
Has happen that all three of them lasted several spins. Makes everything complicated and usually after that I
take some rest. Consider that for every player I have to track ratio and balance, and bet accordingly. When I
got what I call Dalmatian hits (one here and one there) I mark some numbers down on my phone, just to be on
top of the game.
Did I made mistakes? Yes, sometimes I made bad calculations in those situation. Has happen that I extended
a game more than should have been, or I won less than what I should have. Sometimes the other way around.
Part of the business I guess.

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21 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 06, 2022, 09:15:51 PM »

if you play differentiating your bets, you will end up taking the worst payout way more often than the best
playout. Statistically, you will get the ratio you are looking for, but not enough profit to erase your outstanding
balance and end up on top. This is way I don't use this system.
Going back slowly from decifit does not mean small winnings with large covering bets, like EC or so, but the
consideration that if I am down 29 units, for example, I will not play SU with one unit, or a split with two, or a
street with 3u, to get my money back. Maybe at that situation I play a couple dz for 2 units. Just an example to
illustrate the concept.
If hit, I will be at -21, so in a better position. Depends how much I am out of my ratio, honestly.

The second concept is the progression. There is something very strong in the idea that you add just one unit to
your bet and in reality you double your bet. from 2 to three you raise your progression just the same, but you
improve your bet about 50%. If you end up adding 1 to your progression, from 10 units, you will add just 10% to
your bet, so 10% to your payout. I am sure you grasped the idea.

Third concept is the bet selection. I do not have one, I have a way to simplify my chooses so I don't waste time
deciding what to bet. It is possible that a certain point I have to play 2 dz with 3 units each. My system tells me
how much and what is the payout I am looking for, so I have to decide which dz to pick, and I have the habit to
pick the last outcome as a reference point. That's all.

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22 Questions and Answers / Re: Counting Numbers Played -- Properly

« on: September 06, 2022, 01:25:54 PM »

Yes, but those were three games played in the same time, so you have to think of three different calculation. In
a single game, I never overlap.

Once you have a profitable game, with low profit, multiply games is a way to increase your gain. It becomes
hard keep track of plus and minus, but can be done. Especially with a piece of paper and a pen.

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23 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 06, 2022, 12:02:43 AM »

how to calculate variance, in few easy steps.

add up all scores, then divide by number of scores. This gives you the mean.
subtract the mean from each score to get deviation from the mean
square each deviaton from the mean by itself (square it is the right word? My Italian is better than my English,
as you all know. Let's say multiply by itself, just to be sure)
add all the squared deviations.
The sum must be divided n-1 (n is your sample, that start the all process)

This brings you to statistical differences, or how much you can divert from the perfect balance (Thanos hate all
of this). This tells you there is so much it can divert (a little grim on Thanos now).
I speak simple because I wish to be understood. Don't underestimate me. I am close to 2 millions with roulette,
my friend, I don't need to prove a thing.
You are like the gray sprinkle in a rainbow cupcake.

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24 Questions and Answers / Re: Counting Numbers Played -- Properly

« on: September 05, 2022, 05:15:26 PM »

sorry I missed your question here. I don't open all threads.

I think I already stated somewhere that I don't overlap bets.
If not, let me repet it. I do not overlap bets.
Thanks to allow me to clarify this

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25 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 05, 2022, 12:59:58 PM »

@rond1nell1. Was quite a long time ago. Yes, I remember playing more than 15 units in a single spin. That game
was way heavier on needed bankroll, and was the limit that I had in my head that needed to get ridden of.
I was trying to upgrade my units value, so 1000 chips of 25$ would have been so unrealistic for me in the long
run.
I managed to cut the bankroll to few hundreds units, and then even more.

If your system call for 1000+ units it is simple unplayable in a real casino. Drop down 50/60 chips in the correct
place takes time, and sometimes even calculation become difficult. Once you have a winning system, the rest
of the work is slim it down to a playable one.
That opening was super simple. 1u in EC, 2u EC, 2u DZ, 3u DZ. 8 chips played and covered 60 numbers total.
What I had to do next is to wait for 2 hits in the next 60 numbers played. A divisor will do it, as you know.
Problems will be the you keep divide and divide, raise progression, till the all thing is way out of control.

You need to find a find to not allow that to happen, and in order to do that you need to find a solution to keep
balance under control. You need to change the way you see the game. Don't care about outcomes, they will be
in your favor and against you all the time. You need to endure, you need to survive till cavalry arrives.
You will not win with money. You will win with patience.

Weakness of the wheel, revolutionary idea, whatever you wanna call it, is your special ingredient to get the
riddle solved. Think outside the box, because people with better understanding of math tried and failed
already. Those paths have been walked long enough. Be creative, be wild, be crazy.

Negative variance has is own limits, like positive variance. Your day of luck will end. when you play at the
roulette you see a lot of silly players put enormous amount of money on a single number and they hit. And
then again, and again. And you think that's will end. Sooner or later they will give back whatever the won, and
some.
It is true for the day of unluck, also. No number, no combination will be out forever. There is a statistical
boundary that limit the outcome.
Even a broken watch mark the perfect time twice a day, they say. Well, count on that. Improve your chance
and it will be easier. After all the game plays in your favor.
Example. Let's say a dz becomes a sleeper. does not hit for 13 spins (happens). If you play one of the other two
(for some reason, let's say gut feeling), you play with a 50% chance to get paid 2/1. So the missing dozen helps
you a lot, don't you think?

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26 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 05, 2022, 01:02:34 AM »

Kav created this forum so long ago, and he put time and efforts in it. At least, we all should show gratitude and
respect for that. He gave us a public space and decency ask us to be at the very least polite. This will always be
Kav's forum. My occasionally presence makes no difference, in the long run.
I am home these days because I had to assist my wife in a stupid surgery, that's all. That is the reason why I
have more time to write and to frequent this place.

My progression is very limited. I barely go over 3x. My max exposition is 120, theoretically, but in the last 14 months
I never went below 73, one time, 71 2 times...

I am not able to predict outcomes. Maybe there is a pattern I cannot see, maybe there is logic behind
permanences, If is so, I am not aware of it. My Idea of playing is just management. I rely on the fact that sooner or
later I will hit. It is enough for me.
I never play less then 3 numbers (usually way more). More than half of my game ends in the first 2 spins. My
average profit is not high, but is consistent. I play now with 100$ chips.
If someone thinks dealer's hand, expectations, microbias in the wheel, or astronomical juxtapositions could
decide the outcome of a spin, good for them. I am very mechanical, very unemotional at the wheel. My only
calculation is tracking my balance, so to know how much to put on the felt.

I said many times that I rely on a 1/60 ratio. It is still true, even if I changed my way of play. If I hit 0 in 240 number
played (for example 2 dz for ten consecutive spins, I don't play like that but just to make a statement) means that
I have to hit at least 5 times in the next 60 number played, or 6 in the next 120. Got the Idea?

You have so many different approaches to the game: Visual Ballistic, Pattern, Math, Statistic, Feelings, Lucky
number, Lucky Day, you name it. In this forum you can see them all. Usually VB and System's creators end up
asking for money, or students (that bring money...). They last till the think they have a possible market. I am not
one of them.
I have been around this pages for so long. I have been called in every possible derogative name. I am still here
because I deeply think that I can help someone else find his own way to the game. I will not be of help to
everybody, but one is enough for me. Just one that finds his system, or in the process learns something about
himself, his brains, his comprehension of things, his strenghts.

Obstacles are there to teach us something about ourselves. Roulette is a big obstacle, because we are one
against something deemed invincible. Who wins or who loses doesn't matter. I don't care if someone believes me
or not. Does not matter if I think you all are winners or all losers. What matters is your journey, your learning, your
growing. Money are useless if you are a bad person, if you are emotionally and spiritually blind. You can win 100
millions dollars at the lottery and waste all in 2 years, if you don't improve.

I learned how to root for everybody, naysayer and adepts, students and angry attackers, because there is no
defence against love. I want you all to be successful, in this game or in the bigger game that is life. I think you will
get more talking to me than attacking me, but maybe I am wrong, because everybody is wired differently, and
someone can have success because he spites someone else (Netflix was born like that).

Ideas, that's all we should share here, but to each one his own.

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27 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 04, 2022, 07:48:39 PM »

My way to help fellow seeker is exactly that: No, I don't think this will work, or This is a good idea, I suggest to
work in that direction.
Crazy K is a good example of that. He send me regularly emails and I go through his ideas, providing my point
of view. I am devoted to help you find your winnings, not copycat mine, that is not possible.
I explained that too. Every player has a specific personality, and his system must fit his temper. I am sure that
if I write down my system here, some players will be able to win like me, few more than me, but the vast
majority will not be able to get a dollar out of it.
I am a very patient man, and my system rely on big numbers,a lot of spins, and hours at the table. I am not a
gambler, at all. I don't need the excitment or the adrenaline. I need to have more money at the end of the day
than at the beginning. That's all.

My suggestions are always the same. I try to summarize some of them.

1) Don't try to have a perfect system (mathematically the game cannot be conquered), aim for a workable
one.
2) A perfect distribution of outcomes will never happen. This is at player's advantage (Reread this till you got it).
3) Write down what you really know about roulette, work on that. Gray areas of knowledge are against you.
4) Is not important how much your system wins (1 unit every 10 spins is good. 1u every 100 spins is also good. Till
it wins is good, you can improve his productivity later on. Important is it wins).
5) Don't believe who says cannot be done. They just can't, and they cannot accept your success.
6) don't be discouraged by failures.
7) Don't be a gambler. It is business or is entertainment. if the latter, do something else.
Keep negative balance at minimum
9) Don't pursuit fast recovery. You go down slowly, you go up slowly.

Thank you Michael, and the others, for your nice words.

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28 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Let's talk about ideas

« on: September 04, 2022, 09:26:27 AM »

In recent times, I received a lot of communications from so many different people, in this forum and privately.
All of them with ideas, questions, and some begging...
I am ok with all of this, and I promise I will do my best to help you going through your journey, but as I said
several times I am not willing to guide you to my Bertrand.
If you think I can point you towards the treasure chest, it is fine. I don't think of myself as such. Mostly, I will try
to dissuade you following certain paths I know are not successful (or better, that I couldn't make successful).
This is an important distinction.
My way of playing is my way, and does not mean is the only way. If I didn't find a way to create a good bet
selection, and therefore I disregarded the possibility to have a bet selection, does not mean you could not find
it. The same for patterns, progressions, magical rituals and prayers. All those things are not part of my system,
but they could be part of yours. Your game, your money, your style.

Many people share with me what they found, exposing to me their secrets. I am honored to have your trust.
Usually this happens when they found an obstacle they cannot cross (progression out of control, very long
sessions, and so on and so forth), and they want for me to provide a solution. That solution is not mine to give.
Yes, some of the obstacles are the same I had to cross, and some of them I overcome while other I just walk my
way around them. This will not make me willing to give you those informations.
Why I should?
When you have something to discuss about ideas, this is the place: Roulette life forum. If you have an half
cooked system that works sometimes but not everytime, other fellow players can help you here. This is the
whole meaning of this forum. If you all change attitude towards what you have, and be more collaborative, a
lot more you all can achieve. I am sure Casinos can support few more winners. Especially if everyone in this
forum stop mocking, belittling, insult others. Sometimes this place is a can of worms, and it should not be.
On the other hand, if your system, your strategy, your gameplay is solid, profitable and reliable, keep it for
yourself and enjoy it.

Please feel free to use this topic to go through ideas that my hints brought to you. Help one another, I will be
here giving all the possible help. If you want to have a stronger communications with me, do something more
than shoot an email. Why I should give you the help you ask for? Want to have better chances? Do something
better.
I do not work for any of you. I do not need your money.
You should present yourself to me doing something nice to fellow human beings, like charity, like actual social
activities. I care about that behaviour. You cannot pay me, but you cannot show me you send 5000 dollars to
Ukraine Red Cross, or to a local food pantry in a poor neighborhood. I give a lot to them, you should too. If you
want indications to whom you can send help, I will provide it. I help artists, I pay college tuition for promising
students, I randomly tip waiter (and I don't make a tiktok about it...)

I don't have tons of time. I will keep answering to all email and messagges I will receive. I will keep going
through your systems and I will keep try to help you out. You need to have patience, though. Or you can use this
forum the way it was intended.
Sorry for this long rant. I really appreciate your kind words and I enjoy communicate with all of you. I am sorry I
cannot give you more than little breadcrumbs along the way.

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29 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: My first winning system - a humble word of encouragement and
gratitude
« on: August 02, 2022, 02:12:11 PM »

I am so very happy for you!

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30 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 24, 2022, 04:37:28 PM »

Is a logical, philosophical weakness

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31 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 23, 2022, 11:15:10 PM »

Sorry, I will delete some messages.

I will not reveal important parts of my games because my Bertrand is tailored on me, and I always wrote that
you need to find a system that fits you. I point where to look, but you have to see, and do your homework.
Honestly I enjoy, generally speaking, be part of this community, even when I receive rude and offensive
remarks. I learned a lot here, and I am profiting from it.

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32 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Dr Talos Weakness of the Wheel a diversion or opportunity?
« on: March 23, 2022, 11:09:41 PM »

Herby. Everything related to Bernoulli, kinda everywhere in the novel. Beware, is not an easy book and it is not
an easy hint...

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33 Roulette Systems / Re: New idea (not mine)

« on: March 22, 2022, 01:26:44 AM »

Every system seeds out from a concept.. this one was promising because take advantage of repetitions. The
weakness here is the uneven profit you get from hitting a combination or another. As micky said very
appropriately is what you do with an idea that makes the idea a success or a failure.

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34 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Dr Talos Weakness of the Wheel a diversion or opportunity?
« on: March 22, 2022, 01:17:38 AM »

If you read Pynchon's Rainbow of gravity you will find a nice help in finding a way to analyze pattern in wheel hit
distribution.

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35 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 22, 2022, 01:14:55 AM »

I never deleted any of my posts. Sorry I cannot help you because I have no recollection of that.

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36 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 17, 2022, 12:48:33 PM »

What makes you think I do trading? I invested in portfolios, and I get revenue out of that. I use acorns and fisher.

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37 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 17, 2022, 12:53:53 AM »

Good for you!

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38 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 16, 2022, 01:08:06 PM »

Martingale is a progression. With this definition yes, mine is a progression. A playable one because it never
spirals out of control. is my system just a progression? Not at all. The core of it is a trick that guarantees it never
goes out of control. At the end of all canons, and posts, and ramblings, this is all there is: a way to manage
betting to make wheel working for you.

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39 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 15, 2022, 03:14:16 PM »

When I started using Bertrand I get a little paranoid, because I had people observing my way of playing and I
was fearing someone could steal it (it is very easy, for a system minded player, grab the essence of it
whatching it in action). Because of that, I needed to find means of concealing it, and that was randomness of
betting.
generally speaking, a player tends to focus on "predictions", and always think the winner has a way to
determine the outcome ahead of time and play accordingly. Money management as a mean of winning is
scarcely considered. what my system asks for is a certain bet, lets say 2 quads. I can play 1/5 and 32/36 at
every spin or change at every spin, till the system asks for a different bet (a single quad, 2 double streets? Who
knows) and I can make the 2 bets in quads a 2 bets in double streeets, and go with it, or change section
completely. I know there will be no difference at the end, but for the occasional watcher if I change it will be
hard for him grabbing the system, because he will look for a reason to play those numbers, or that
combination, instead of focusing on the real deal.

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40 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 11, 2022, 12:36:58 AM »

Winner you are right. 31 not 24. I did not pay attention. I guess I was too focused on what I wanted to say. Thank
you for pointing that out

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41 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 10, 2022, 08:40:56 PM »

If you play with a steep progression, you will end up with a huge negative. So that's to avoid.
If you play too many numbers, a series of misses will bring you to a huge negative. So also this one is to avoid.
The balance between numbers played and chip on the felt is the goal.
As I said many times, you go slowly into the pit, you raise from it slowly. If you bet EC and you miss for 5 times
in a row, you have two possible roads: you played a martingale progression that at the sixth attempt make you
bet 24 units with 1 lucky spin to recover all your exposure, or play flat bet so you will need 6 consecutive hits to
get back to positive.
This was the stepping stone of the thought process that brought me to Bertrand.
I needed a balance between the two options. The progression is the only way to fight variance. But it also is
the worst enemy for a player. Remember though thatbisba statistical game, so raising your bet allows you to
stay in the parameters of the game and end up winning.

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42 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 10, 2022, 04:34:19 PM »

What I always keep in my mind is that there is more in the world than what we know and understand. What we
can catch are glimpses of rules and laws of things, and build from there.
There must be a reason why things happens. what I found is that time is the enemy at the roulette.
Moreover,mis the difference between win or lose. If you put a coin in a slot machine and you win at the first
spin, you keep playing or you leave? if you travel an hour to get there, and you win a thousand at first spin, and
think to drive back for another hour, teh average player keep playing till he give everything back and then
some. They don't go there to win, but to spend time at the machine with a winning like a side thought benefit if
everything goes fine.
Can a player take advantage on time? Yes, if can endure, and his goal is 1 unit. He/she needs to wait till that
happens.
Time.

If you can manage to have a system with slow fluctuation, time dilates. If time dilates, you get your chance to
get that spin, and leave the table with money. A player at roulette, at blackjack owns the game. At poker, in a
different way. Here’s your key,

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43 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 10, 2022, 02:22:27 PM »

I respect your point of view. I have no problem ending my writings here if your feeling are shared by others as
well.
i can't honestly give my Bertrand away. I tried to offer "partnership " to my endeavor a couple or maybe 3
years ago, but I was called a scammer (would have saved me 2 years of low gains and probably costed me
800k, I would have gladly shared half of that with investors, but as I said did not fly). Yes, I learned that casinos
have better numbers than what I thought so they really do not care about my winnings. I was very cautious
years ago, now I am just fishing for comps...

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44 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 10, 2022, 01:42:03 AM »

My Bertrand now asks for 150 chips (maximum so far has been 109, and in simulation not at the table) and I
play never less than three numbers.
Usually way more.
My target win is 1 unit, sometimes takes 25 spins to get that. My average is 4 units evey 10 spins. So I need
250/300 spins to end the day. It can take 3 hours to 6, i usally move when table get too crowded and,
consequently, slow.
If I'd play 4 days a week for 10 hrs a day (a normal work week) 52 weeks a year, I will get a whopping 3.5
millions dollar. I am not interested in that. I am not greedy at all.
What I mean telling that is that the search worth the pain.

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45 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 10, 2022, 01:29:14 AM »

Now, how I manage to recover from my pit? Little by little, using the same stairs that I used gett8ng there,
limiting my losses without waiting for a magical hit. I have time, casinos are 24/7 businesses and they are kind
enough to gift me food and bed, if I ask.
So, first rule lose very little money every spin, second rule gain little money when you recover.
Now, as Micky pointed out, I changed my Bertrand during these years. Now I play few days a week, few hours,
and my target is 100 a night. I invested in other things so I have passive income too. The gain in the first years
are not even comparable from what I get now. And I like to show them I lose sometimes. How I do that? For
example I stop a game when I am 70/80 chips down (8000$) bitching and whining for the bad night and the
lack of luck. Then I move in the next casino continuing the game exactly where I left, and closing in a win.
Few tricks you learn along the way.

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46 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: March 10, 2022, 01:20:59 AM »

I am sorry for the confusion my broken English causes to you. I am trying to learn it the best and the fast I can,
and writing about complicate concepts is not the easiest task, if done in a language that is not yours. Anyway, I
try again wishing to be more understandable.
Let me start saying that I write about concepts, strategies and points of views, not systems or else. And what I
write about is my personal experience, not sucked from a book or heard from a guy somewhere sometimes.
And, once again, you are absolutely free to believe me or not, I will not consider that an offence unless you
offend me directly...
The game, speaking of a single session (start8ng with the first chip placement to the end, that can be a
winning or a bust), has a specific way to be. Repetitions, or jumping here and there (outcomes considered) or
cluster in certain positions, on the felt or on the wheel. As human, we can see a pattern there, like zodiac in the
sky, but we know that that pattern is an illusion. The only certain thing is a number will be spun. Even if the balls
drop out the wheel someone will.pick it up and make it run again. Do we have a way to know where it will land?
Not really, especially with modern wheels. At least I have no idea where it will land.
Because of that, I needed to find a different approach to a very volatile pattern of outcome. If I would stick to a
sector, or a single number, I would not change my chances of winning (or losing). So what else?
The question is: why casinos wins in the long run? Because they have more money than the players, that's
why. They can pay a jack[size=78%]pot of 9 millions dollars and they keep going, while players go back home
anfter three bad spins. [/size]
[size=78%] Large numbers is the word, right. They know that in the long run math will be in their favor. [/size]
[size=78%] What if I would be able to endure longer with my money? And longer and longer? Will I reach a
point where statistically speaking I will hit and recover. Well, if I don't be in a too negative pit I have chances.
[/size]
[size=78%] So, let's imagine a way to approach the game very adaptive, but with no thinking at the table, a
flow chart that for every situation tells me what to do. Is mechanical. Yes. But in a very fluid environment, so to
speak. [/size]
[size=78%] [/size]

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47 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Kudos to mr Talo

« on: February 23, 2022, 05:53:03 PM »

Blue angels you proved exactly my point. If you are not a true seeker, you are wasting time. If you put your
prechewed opinions over learning, you will not be able to succeed.
My Bertrand is rocking since 2014, with more than a thousand successful session at a real table, for more than
a total of 500,000 live spins (and a profit above 1.5 million). If this a gambler's fallacy, I am sure many wishes to
have one like mine

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48 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Kudos to mr Talo

« on: February 22, 2022, 09:38:19 PM »

I keep saying that whatever you find in order to beat the game is on you. There is no need to thank me or
anything. You owe results to your hard work and dedication. Me giving my point of view on this game is
absolutely not influential, in good or bad.
I Think it is a statistical game more than a mathematical one. Like the stock market, you need to be resilient in
hard time, keeping your positions, and take advantage on the bull's time.
Your strategy must be sustainable in the long run. My goal is till winning 100 units a day, and my units is 100$.
I cannot afford a losing day (psychologically speaking, not financially) so I had to build a system that never
loses. It is slow, and boring, tedious, painfully quiet, but does its job, and that's all I want.

Sometimes here I have been quoted wrongly but at this point I don't even care anymore (I never said in clear
word what the weakness of the wheel I think is, for example), as I don't care if you reject or adopt my advises. I
won my fight long ago, and I have more challenges in my life to face now. Meaning, with this, that I will not
respond to any post, or any fishing attempt, made through this site.
I will keep reading you all, your silly political statements and your unrealistic systems, and if something
compelling pops up, by people who are really in a quest for the Grail and not people begging for free lunch, I
will answer the best I can.
Sorry for the bitterness of this post, I guess I am just tired.

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49 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Myrtle Beach Roulette Bet

« on: January 28, 2022, 05:27:13 PM »

The best thing about Michael advice is that you will know if you are someone that see the game as a viable
source of income or instead you are a gambler wishing for an adrenaline kick.
Are you able to stay in a casino for days taking notes without putting a single chip in? Especially if your system
looks promising? This distinction is exactly what differs who will win and who will lose in the long run.

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50 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 28, 2021, 06:55:19 PM »

Jayhan you are really smart. Yes, I usually do that, because I found the bet selection by itself is what the nam
implies... BS

My effort has been always finding a way to recover from drawdown, that I see as the real obstacle in this game.
When your system does not work like a charm, how to avoid bankruptcy?

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51 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 24, 2021, 04:31:04 AM »

Allow me to clarify some passages. the "cult" thing makes no sense. I understand that som people like my way
to express my thought, and som other likes my general attitude, like I do towards others, as it was fo Reyth, for
Kav, for Michael, even when we don't agree on the game, or else. And if someone likes me because I "stood up"
against deniers, as you very nicely wrote, that would be awesome, and I take that like a medal.
Since I posted years 5 or 6 years my first thought, a lot has changed. My system changed with me, and
evolved. What wasn't there in the beginning is now here, like betting fewer numbers (never less than 3 though),
and usually way more. The concept is still the same, the core idea is unchanged. When I get my ratio or better,
game is over. Sometimes I hit in a favorable way, and the game ends with even a worst ratio, but it is rare. yes,
I keep track of my exposition and total numbers played the whole time.
whene I say "where to bet" I don’t mean bet selection but payouts. 29, for example, can be played as SU, or
Street, or dz...you get my drift. i don't allow the game to run too away from me, expanding the battlefield when
losing and shrinking when winning. I never know when the game will end, and rarely i get excited by it.
My aspiration was always to give people hope to pursue the dream of winning, their own way. I never wished
to give my system away or else. (Thatbis not completely correct, as you know). i have been called liar,
scammer, fraud a lot of time here. They said I was planning a sophisticated scheme to get money. Then they
said my plan was stealing your systems, proposing myself like a "system doctor" of some sort, in order to have
your work handed to me in a silver platter to evaluate it. Just to say that I am used to this noise and dust, and I
am not impressed. i keep hoping that you keep working, and be successful, more than me, more than enybody
else, in this game and in life, because you have harder challenges than roulette to face, and I wish you all the
best.

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52 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 22, 2021, 06:43:38 PM »

My betting strategy, if you wanna call that this way, it is simply follow the last outcome. The reason I picked that
way is to avoid thinking during the game. The number I pick has no influence really, because I play many other
numbers with it. Can be because part of group. Because of close proximity in the wheel. Because of astral
reason or pure luck...
The number I pick is my pivotal point to determine the other numbers I play with it. The total amount of
numbers, and the total units I bet IS my system. Rest is not important

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53 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 22, 2021, 05:22:39 PM »

Cht, as Jayhab said, read what I posted previously. Honestly, and without being rude, I am not very interested
on what you believe
If you think previously results influences next outcome, then you are in gambler's fallacy reality.
If there is no connection between spins, what difference changing table makes? And if so, what differences
putting a break before the switch makes?
Jerome. There is no limit theoretically. In real play, there is a way to manage your game in order to avoid
certain limits.
Jayhan. Depends how you play. Your strategy should tells you how to handle that.

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54 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 22, 2021, 02:25:08 PM »

I see I created some confusion here.

When I wrote "creates a pattern" I did not mean "You recognize a pattern and bet accordingly'. I said that
when you walk in a wood the itinerary you follow creates a road. It is not helpful in a way you think. Doesn't give
you hint or something similar to help you identify how and where to bet. Tells you that you have to keep moving
one step after another if you want to get out of the wood.

You read with your own glasses what I write, instead of trying to understand.
Are there way to know what will happen? Maybe, but I don't know any.
Are there way to establish a prediction? Maybe, but I don't know any.
The only thing I know is that sooner or later I hit, sooner or later, one step at a time, I regain back money I put
on the table. I win every time the outcome is inside my 1:60 ratio, and statistically speaking will happen no
matter what.
The enigma to solve is how to endure till that moment. Without that resiliancy, you have nothing. There is no
voodoo or gambler's fallacy here. I have 1.543.800 reason to know that statistic works just fine.
Statistically speaking, you hit one time every 37 numbers played. I tried to expand my possibilities because
variance will play with you (to a certain extent), and my result are 1:60. I tried 1:66 and 1:70 and 1:72. I had
success but some game where crazy long, and I get back to original.
Then I tried to reduce the bankroll, from 500 to 100. Took me 2 years, but I did.
And know, because pandemic gave me a month out of casinos (I don't like to wear masks, as everybody else)
I decided very dumbly to put myself in this cage of snakes.
Sooner or later I will learn this lesson too.

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55 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 21, 2021, 11:06:22 PM »

I wasn't alluding to bet selection, sorry.

Statistically speaking, there are many rules in the formation of a pattern. You must understand this

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56 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 21, 2021, 05:28:41 AM »

Third, it is true. Other "rules" can help you in order to avoid that.

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57 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 21, 2021, 02:15:16 AM »

Juice hit the nail in the head.

I already gave you all the pieces of the puzzle, in these years. Monty Hall, De Bono, Martingale, Sun Tzu... are all
just breadcrumbs. I am sure you can get just one of them and build everything from it. I gave you a lot. In
pieces, and maybe not easily accessible, but I did a lot more than other here calling themselves teachers and
selling lessons...
On a secondary note: I should really reread my post before hitting send. I am embarassed by my numerous
mistakes and I hope you can get my meaning when sentencing is unaccurate. Writing on phone when you are
busy doing other things is not an excuse but is the best I got. And consider English is not my first, not even my
second, language.

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58 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 21, 2021, 12:29:15 AM »

I am not sure you will be happy with my answer. you need to make sure you don`t put yourself in a situation
where you are 0/300. You need to accept to win a very little to interr5the dry spell, and to build your way back.
the progression must be negative sometimes and positive some other times. You need to find a way to have
extreme adaptability to the game. Roulette is rigid. Rules of the game are strict. You need to do all the dance.
allow me to present an apparently unrelated example: in Blackjack the advantage of the dealer is playing
after the players. Players' advantage is that dealer must draw even if he has 15 and you have 14. work on this

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59 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 20, 2021, 02:43:39 PM »

Crazy K You don't need me. You understand me 100%.

I am not here to give you my system. I am here for the people that are thinking if there is a way to win in this
game and I tell them that there is.
My secret is my secret. My solution is my solution. I think it is revolutionary because I found a way to see the
game like, apparently, nobody else did. I am not fully deep into math (and I think that helped me in order to find
a new way) or into programming. Something what you know ties you, limits you. I discovered that the question
prepare, arrange, define the answer. A good question is all you need sometimes.

I am not trying to avoid your questions though. I think you all are to focused on stealing my treasure chest
instead of building your own treasure. You keep saying thank you thank you like I am giving something to you,
while I am giving you nothing. I am saying it is possible. I am giving you general advices, I have pointing you
roads. The hard work, the study, the pain is all on your shoulders, and is up to you to accept the challenge or not.
I am sure my way is not the only way, but it is the way I know so when I talk about something is just my point of
view, my opinion. I think bet selection it is not so important, important is your balance. If you have a way to keep
negative balance low, you have it.
I keep saying: don't use a Martingale approach, when you try to get your money back in a single hit. That hit will
never come, one day or another. You go down on your bankroll slowly, you need to reemerge slowly. Make the
time work in your favor. Casino is open 24/7. Use that to your advantage.
You tired? Go to sleep. Get a shower, go back to the table like is a single session, back where you left. Your
strenght is in the sheer power of numbers.
I don't understand why you blind yourself with the sequence from hell that mathematically speaking can
happen but, in actual play, never will.
We know that the same numbers has been hit 8 times in a row, has been reported. But, if someone suggest to
wait till that happen, double down on every hit hoping to get the magic back to back situation, we will say it won't
happen. On the other hand, we keep hearing people warning players that the sequence of impossible results is
there hiding in the dark, waiting to hit the unlucky player at every moment... This makes me smile.

You can't control the outcome, you cannot control the game, rules, or else. The only thing in your control is your
money. Nothing else. The casino want it, and play every trick in the book to have it. Free drink? granted. Free
room? granted. A massage honey? Granted. As long as you stay there waiting for your lucky number. They built
cathedral with your money. A week worth of hard job down the drain because of 3 unlucky spins at the roulette.
How silly is that?
Dear Casino, do you want my money? Ok, I will give you little by little. So slowly in fact that you are force, by
random events, to give me something back. And because I know how much you give me back accordingly to the
position and quantity I place, I can decide how much you give me back. Lottery is not the same.
Most games are fast (almost 50% at the first spin. Yes my first bet is EC) others are slow. Few are long and ends
with a few units won. It is not disappointing. Win a little is better the lose a lot. Sometimes takes 1 hour to get 1 unit.
But my unit now is 100$. I remember when I was working for 16 an Hr. Without free drink, without free room, without
free massage.
And, at the end of the day, on average, I have my 100/150 units that I didn't have the day before.

If you have real questions, I will give you real answer. Meanwhile, enjoy my rant.

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60 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DrTalos -- Statistical Advantage

« on: December 18, 2021, 06:58:35 PM »

I kinda like your sarcasm... kinda

I think you forgot I don't rely on a magical hit. I will never put my hopes on a straight up number. You lose
money slowly, if you are a system player. You should plan your recovery likewiae

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61 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 18, 2021, 06:53:38 PM »

Sorry Nisayon I missed your question

I keep track of my game. I know at every spin how many number I played, what I need to finish the game and
so on and so forth.
It is exhausting after a while, but you get used to it.

Second question
Minimum is 1, maximum is not set. Happened that I played 15 units in a single spin. In theory can be higher.

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62 Roulette Systems / Re: New idea (not mine)

« on: December 18, 2021, 03:42:01 PM »

just to note that the quote is wrong. Pascal never said that. It is from St. Augustine.

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63 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 18, 2021, 03:38:59 PM »

To you too, Michael, and to everyone here.

Crazy K - if I am out of 60, I need 2 hits. Over 120 I need 3. To simplify, I need a 1/60 ratio to win

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64 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DrTalos -- Statistical Advantage

« on: December 18, 2021, 03:36:40 PM »

Red Diamanthe you are comparing apples and oranges.

In the first quote, I was talking about concepts, and in that specific time I was reasoning about the Monty Hall
paradox. Generally speaking, you should try to avoid losing patterns and that was it.
In a single spin, I repeat, your choice is as good as another.
For me, I use a easy to follow pattern to avoid wasting time thinking on what to do. I use the repeater but I could
use with the same proficiency my birthday, or the current day. What is important for me is how many numbers I
have to cover in that specific spin, and in which way.

Adapting is a more interesting topic. What that entails exactly? I think follow the basic rule "cover as many
numbers as you can with the least amount of chips". The tougher the game, the spread out my layout.
The ratio is everything. Is my key, my secret in a way. How I made that work is my only little pride.

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65 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DrTalos -- Statistical Advantage

« on: December 17, 2021, 03:01:48 PM »

important questions here.

you must understand that in a single spin everything can happen. Whatever is the past, the trend, the hot cold
bs, and so on and so forth, nothing matters. The number can repeat Ntimes, the long awaited cold number get
colder, the only number you left uncovered hit, or the last chip you put on the table out of desperation grant you
a win.
So, in a single spin, doesn't really matter how you carefully place your bets. What is important is what you get
back if/when you hit.
I am sure you saw player cover the felt with dozens and dozens of chips. And almost every spin they got
something bet. Try to explain to them that that winning make no sense because they get 78 chips back after
putting 94 on the table. They will not understand. They will not be able to manage the concept that a hit is
worthless unless gives you more than you already bet. The last chip placed on a straight number, if hit, is just an
illusion, or a delusion. They will lose everything winning at every spin.

You need to use the payouts to determine how many chips you wish to play. Where you actually play those
chips is absolutely unimportant. if you need to get back 5 times your investment, you need to bet a double street.
Which one is not important. The power of sheer numbers is that you will hit, sooner or later. Endure the wait is the
key.

As I said previously, the target is in the archer. For a person like me, it was necessary to have a wider wallet than
needed, so my mind get the tranquillity needed in order to play. If my system asked for 300 units, I would bring
with me 1000 units, not to play them, but the have the feeling that the system wasn't on his last leg. Mathematical
example: In a 300 bankroll, when the system is 200 negative my mind knows i depleted almost 70% of my
availability. If I have a thousand chips, my mind knows I used just 20% of my bankroll. No tension, no dark
thoughts, no acts of desperation.
My first approached asked for hundreds and hundreds of units. Not anymore. You learn with time.

Focusing on numbers, patterns, or magical divinations make no sense in a statistical game. If you have a way to
predict the outcome (let's say, for example, bias on the wheel, ballistic and such) then the game is yours, and no
more research is necessary. I never had that. I though when I was younger that I could see a silver lining
threading the numbers on the board. The illusion was shattered several times, and with it my bank account.
I thought of a different approach, and I came up with a ratio. Assuming that the game is not biased, how often
can I reasonably expect to get a hit? Mathematically speaking 1 out of 37. That was my start. I grow from that. I
guess I said that already.

Now, after so many years, the third (or fourth) incarnation of my idea ask for less then 100 units. Games are a little
longer than before, and the profit is around 1 unit out of 3 spin on average. Doing the necessary math during the
game is not as straightforward as it was, but I am kinda used to it. For a certain period I was using a clicker to
keep track, now I do everything in my mind. I play less than before but I gain more.
I will never get rich out of a roulette table, but I get enough to invest money in other business, and that is all I
want. To be rich you need to make the money works for you, not the other way around. This is a skill I am still
trying to acquire.

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66 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 17, 2021, 02:34:35 PM »

My suggestion is to start with easier ratio, like 1/38, and move your way up. As the obstacle get higher, you will
find new way to cross it.
I am sorry about the messages. i will try to be more on point on that.

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67 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 16, 2021, 07:57:45 PM »

I am always around...
Michael, after the pandemic hit, I get sick. And then many casinos were closed. So I decided I couldn't rely just
on the game for an income so I invested my money here and there (many start up) and keep playing when
possible.
Yes, I am in a good shape now, physically and economically, and I am kinda happy.

Nisayon, both way could work. They both have good points on their sheath and depend mostly on your
preference. Question is: what you do after that?

Any question is welcomed, as always. But I think I already answered to them all.

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68 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: December 15, 2021, 03:27:25 PM »

I am not dead or else. I just think I am no more useful here. All the information I could give are already there, in
some posts or collected in an archive of sort.
I See people still trying to find a solution to attack our enemy, and that makes me happy. About all the thanks
and bid towards me, just let me say I do not deserve them. Whatever you accomplish in this game belongs to
you, to your dedications and efforts. I am a signpost, nothing more. There is no need to thank me for anything.

One more time, I write down what is important to remember if you wanna improve your chance of winning.
1. keep the negative balance as low as possible trying to play as many numbers as you can.
2. rely on a key (mine is ratio) and try to exploit the key in every possible way. If does not work, find another key.
3. past outcomes, dealer signature, math (yes, I said that) is not as relevant as you think. Roulette is a stat game,
not a math one.
4. make time works for you, not the other way around.
5. don't try unreasonable system (more than 500 units requested bankroll, for example)
6. consider your qualities and skill, accept your limitations and your strenghts. The target is in the archer.
7. accept suggestions from everybody but don't trust anybody's result, positive or negative that may be (I am in
this list too).
8. keep improving, always.
9. consider that sometimes your starting assumption can be wrong.
10. your goal is to win 1 unit. And then repeat.

Thank you everybody for your nice words.

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69 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: December 27, 2020, 08:08:48 PM »

Nothing in nature has no weakness.

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70 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: December 27, 2020, 08:07:54 PM »

An army may be likened to water, for just as flowing water avoids the
heights and hastens to the lowlands, so an army avoids strength and
strikes weakness
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71 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: December 27, 2020, 08:02:57 PM »

"Hiding order beneath the cloak of disorder is simply a question of

subdivision; concealing courage under a show of timidity
presupposes a fund of latent energy; masking strength with weakness
is to be effected by tactical dispositions"
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72 Roulette Systems / Re: Scep' s roulette strategies .

« on: November 30, 2020, 10:13:17 PM »

In all honesty, I don't understand all this fuzz about 0. It is just another number. If you don't play it it will be just one
more number in the field of not winning number you have against your bet.
Even if you play EC or DZ, zero is no different from 3, or 19. Is green, you cannot add it in your EC, but you don't
play every red number if you play Black, so what?
Zero is the number the make the house edge, in a way, but nothing more. You can develop a strategy playing
just the number 14, for that matter. Numbers in the wheel are smoke for gambler's eyes. If they where all in
numerical order, the outcome would have been just the same.
Remember that Roulette has born as a Random Number Generator. Colors, dozens, arrangments are tricks to
give you more the impression of uncertainty.

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73 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 29, 2020, 06:19:14 PM »

Just to point out that my many typos on some of my posts are due by typing on the phone, while the most
correct ones are made on the pc. Quiet setting. And time.
So, my point is I am not completely illiterate any other day.

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74 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 29, 2020, 05:38:32 PM »

Labby, there is no a direct road from hints to ideas. Sometimes ideas come from nowhere, apparently, but they
are rooted in something you learned years before, sparkled by something yiu just saw happening one day, and
finally ignated by a dream, who knows.
The same for books abd reading. Read, a lot, because you don't what sentence will open your mind. Generally
speaking, oriental philosophers are useful because are different from what we usually know, so they offers s valid
alternative. Let's say I King, especially 10 wings from kung fu tzu.
And third, are both importans as a mind setting. Paradox are another way to change your perspective.

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75 Casino Lounge / Re: DrTalosLog

« on: November 29, 2020, 05:30:07 PM »

These are the questions you need to find an answer to:

How can I prolongue my play without asking too much to my bankroll

What is the weakness of the wheel I can exploit
How can I cover the most of the felt with the less units and the most advantageous payout (balance, the most
difficult part)

Considering that
Raising the bet units are dangerous
Variance is more relevant the less numbers you cover
We need to have the shortest possible game and, when that is not possible, the smoothest one in term of general
debt.
The average profit is not an issue. The issue is the safety of the system. If you have a system that gives you 1 unit
a day, 100% safe, you will be a winner. High profit are necessary only if you lose sometime in order to repay those
losses.

Hope this helps

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76 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 28, 2020, 12:50:54 AM »

Do you think will be helpful for them if I tell the 20+ years of failure, broken system, delusion? If I say to them that
so many times I felt like an idiot chading an impossible dream, and feeding the casinos with all my money?
How many times I said no more after a terrible night where my system failed bringing down thousands of
euros with it? The night rides towards home in a verge to say stop once and for all?
And now, after all of that, people wants Bertrand for free...

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77 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 27, 2020, 01:53:31 AM »

I keep track of my balance throughout the game. It is simple math, like how much I am down, what I need to
bet and how, and subtract the winnings when they occur.
My outstanding balance tell me what to do. I follow my flow chart so I know always in which part of the game I
am at.
Back in the days I used a clicker, to know how many spins on that bet I did so to know where my progression
on the ratio was. Now I simplified a lot my game. After so many years, all you do is kinda automatic.

About the revolutionary idea: when you think the game is strategical and statistical, you don't disregard the
mathematical implication of guessing the outcome from a random number generator. You know that time is
on your side while bankroll is on casino side. They have infinite bankroll you have limited bankroll. But time is
different. In Time you will win, if you endure. How to resist? Think strategically, think like the game is a battle of a
never ending war. You do not want to win, you want to kill one more soldier than the enemy, you wanna win a
chip, just one, and go back and win another one.
Gain yourself some time, and enjoy the single chip you won. Battle after battle you will learn more and more,
especially how to make your system more efficient and profitable. I am still learning, and improving.
Don't fall for easy win or big numbers. Build your game, your skill. My motto was:"better win little than lose a
lot". Seems dumb but think how many times you fell for big hits, great days, euphoria.
I don't have adrenaline at the game. It is boring and dull, that's why I try to go there less and less with the
same profit. I enjoy other things in life, not casino's thrill. That thrill is your enemy.
Read. A lot.

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78 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 26, 2020, 02:58:12 AM »

When I started I had 200 dollars to waste. I used to play 25 cents. Took my a day to get 30 $ gains. Was less than
1/5 of my daily pay at the job. But I could increase the bet using funds from the casino instead from paychecks.
Was my deal with my wife, And I promised her that if the system did not work, those where the last 200$ toss
playing roulette.
I could move to 50 cents, and then to a dollar.
It is crazy for me thinking than now I take in a week what I gained the first year, but that first year is 5 years in the
past. I kept track of every day, every week, every month. My roulette contability is what kept me aware of
possibilities I had. Starting in 2018 I took money out of my winnings and invested in other fields, to give options to
my kids.
I remember when I was play hard and focused to get my first 50 or 60 bucks, after maybe 8/9 hours at the table,
and a guy, betting 50$ chips, was cashing out 2000$ in three spins. I resisted all temptations, I played
meticulously like the proverbial ant, and now I have something. I wish for all of you the same success, with no
exceptions. Only rule, you have to find your own way.

The first year I was tempted to sell my system. Would have save me at least one year of work, but I thought that
was a mistake, and I didn't. I still think I did the right thing.

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79 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 25, 2020, 11:48:21 PM »

Micky, thank you for your kind words, really touched me.
We disagree on many things, but there is not reason to fight over disagreement, am I right? We learn more from
who do not share our views than from someone that confirms our bias.

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80 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 25, 2020, 04:47:22 PM »

I wrote that not because I wanted to brag about it, but to make you understand that is a job. A well paid job but a
job nevertheless.
You need to acquire a skill and then perform. The better the skill, the higher the pay. It needs dedication,
discipline, consistency.
All people in this forum are students trying to get an education, with few teachers. You pick the course you want
and if you do your homework you have a career in the business.

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81 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 25, 2020, 04:01:13 PM »

I started like that. My losses before, with the casinos where about (I estimate) close to 100 thousands, over
decades.
My first full year of using my Bertrand I made 18000. Since then (2015) I used my winnings to increase my unit
value. I started with 25 cents units, playing sometimes 14 hours a day, 4 days a week.
In 2016 I get 53K.
2017 167K
2018 315K
2019 648K

I travel a lot. I spend 3 days outside home, one travelling and the other two playing. My daily goal is 80 units,
and I play 100$ chips. Four sessions a day (sometimes in 30 minutes is over, sometimes it takes one hour and a
half to reach the goal).
I invest part of my gain in other business, I live a comfortable life. I don't dream to be rich, I dream to be
happy.

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82 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 25, 2020, 02:49:38 PM »

Labby,, you have now the best chances to be nominated next "DrTalos Fake account of the year". Be ready, we
will have a party soon, with music and beer...

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83 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 25, 2020, 12:09:35 AM »

That's exactly the key, the mistery to be solved.

Look, the game is almost impenetrable. Almost means that you can find a way. Despite the legend that says
roulette is mathematically unbeatable, winners do exists.
The revolutionary idea is my idea, but possibly there are other ideas different from mine that works exactly the
same. I don't know.
What I know is: keep trying, think outside the box (people losing is the proof that "normal thinking" is not the
solution). Avoid math, just try strategical solution to face the problems you find playing. Every now and then
you will find something useful. When you collect enough of those useful skills you will put them together
coherently. Bam, you have a system.
Last year I won 648 thousand dollars. This year I will close a little above 800 thousand (I raised my wage while
limiting my visits, for well known reasons). Am I rich? I am not, but I am happy and satisfied. Now is your turn.
Bend your thinking, read a lot, study.

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84 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 24, 2020, 10:05:53 PM »

Let's talk about concepts for now.

Your game changes as it progress. Yor strategy must do the same.

At the beginning, wishing for a short game with a minimal profit, make sense to play EC, for example. You
invest 1 to get one almost half of the time. If you don't get it, you need to gain it back.
In the middle of the game, when you are luke 25 units below, play EC is nonsense, because the profit will not
be enough to recover, unless you put tons of units on the felt (martingale original sin) to get a marginal profit.
So, as the situation differs, the strategy must do the same. The word here is balance.

I keep saying that the game is a battle and the enemy is the wheel. Units are our soldiers. Felt is the battlefield.
There are set way outs for the game to slip out of our grasp. If we play dozens, he has three way out (forget the
zero for now, we are in a philosophical mood). If your soldier guards one dozen, has 1 out of three possibility to
grab the enemy. But, a second soldier has one out of 2 chance to succeed. This means that more units you out
in play. More powerful each of them will be compared to the previous one. This unless you put too many
soldiers, because you will get a Pyrrhic win, something you don't want. Once more, the word is balance.
So you scale down to give your units, your soldiers, more value for the money, and then you have a new
enemy skill against you: variance. You play streets or splits, for example, to avoid extra units spent pursuing
your recovery. How many chances every unit has at every different level? This a a fascinating research.

If you have a monolithic attitude towards the game it will crush you. If you understand that the situation
changes at every spin, and so you play accordingly, you will win, because rules for the wheel are always the
same, while your strategy has endless permutation.
Beware, there are not many good generals in this game of ours. Vast majority wins just in their mind, with no
real achievements to show or talk about.
The ability to judge, to correctly evaluate amongst options is one of the skill of the game. Something you can
practice and, while doing so, improve.

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85 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 24, 2020, 08:29:25 PM »

I don't calculate the ratio while playing. My flow chart tells me where I am at every step of the game. I memorized
my passages so to avoid head breaking math at the table. What is left to do is just keep track of the balance for
that session.
I give you another useless clue. I always said a game is a battle and the wheel is the enemy. How to survive is a
strategy that I learned (and I write it in the most humble way) studying Art of War by Sun Tzu.

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86 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 23, 2020, 12:00:47 AM »

not much. I think that sooner or later you will have your hit. On average, you should have 1 hit every 37/38 number
played. I work with an average (but you need a lot of spins to make it work) of 1/66. I built my strategy on that.
I think this is an absolutely useless information, unfortunately.

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87 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 22, 2020, 08:15:02 PM »

No
Yes
No
No
No (but it is an important concept)
Yes (duh)

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88 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 20, 2020, 03:39:35 AM »

Vitorwally, what would be the point in participating on a public forum if no questions were allowed? This a place
to discuss ideas and experience about our battle against Roulette, a common enemy of ours. I know that often
this public square has become a den of misfits where name calling, offences, trivial prejudices took over threads
and discussions. This is shameful and a waste of time, but unfortunately a perfect mirror of the society we are
living in.
For what concern me, I try to keep my head towards my targets, trying to help the best I can people, like you,
enduring day after day in a sincere quest to find their grail.
I have rules, one of them is not to reveal my Bertrand. Nevertheless I have another rule that say "help them to
find their Bertrand".

My way of see the game is more similar to a flow chart than a system with stages and steps. At every step I ask
myself what to do if this or that happens, and doing this moving in an area of my flowchart or in another.
Because of that, it is hard to answer you in a way you can like.
Levels of recovery, for example, is an expression to make people understand better what I was doing, but is not
accurate. Was a definition of different bets (1 unit, 2 units, 3 units and so on and so forth). My Bertrand is way
more liquid, shifts a lot among situations. Something happens, I am in another area of my master plan, closer or
farther from the goal.
A definition I used in the past was: base system when a hit close the game (true for the first 4 spins back then)
and recovery when in need of more than one hit. With this version is no more a good definitions, because
sometimes I can close the game at the first hit on the first spin, and sometimes I don't finish the game even if I hit
in the first spin, on the other hand, I can close the game at the second hit. It is complicated.

Generally speaking I play less numbers now, and less units than before. Consequences of that is lower bankroll
and lower winning ratio. 100 nits for 300 spins is a stepback, in a way, but games are generally shorter.
I know that all these answer are not really satisfying, but I have none better than these.
Find your own way, think outside the box, And do small steps, trying to solve all the issues this game has one at
a time. Baby steps. A systems does not come to you complete, but in pieces.

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89 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 19, 2020, 10:09:21 PM »

Jerome you are in the right direction.

I don't use a trigger. I trap the game, that is a different concept. I don't rely on any number to pop up, I just wait
till I get an hit, or two. Is a game of resilience.
Yes, thia version gives sudden jumps while the descent is kinda controlled

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90 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 18, 2020, 04:22:56 PM »

This is a very thoughtful question.

The way my recovery works, cannot fail. What can happens is that the game gets longer and longer, asking for
more exposition.
So the question should be how I allow the bankroll to be expanded.
This design has a purpose: limit the bankroll. If happens to need 500 units, why I should use this instead of the
one I succesfully used for years now?
So, I think I can settle for a maximum bankroll of 150. If in one game goes over it, system will be trashed and I will
no longer think of it, or if there's a way to go back to the drawing board, maybe I will work on it. I can't say it now.
As I said, I need to test it more. I will not use it before Christmas, in a casino, unless my son accept the
challenge.

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91 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 18, 2020, 03:46:48 PM »

@Vitorwally.
Yes.
Almost yes.

😂
Yes.

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92 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 18, 2020, 03:27:48 PM »

Sorry, I said it incorrectly. There is never a situation where I need more than 2 hits in a set limit of spins (maybe I
should say at every step of my mild progression).

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93 Roulette Systems / Re: I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 18, 2020, 02:56:34 PM »

There is no more a strict distinction between the two parts. In a way is all recovery, except maybe the first two
spin. I say maybe because there is a possibility to end the game in the first two spins but that is not all. If
something happens can be closed in the third or fourth just the same, as the bet are somehow interlaced.
There's never in the game a situation where I need more than 2 hits to close it, but sure the numbers I cover
change quite dramatically if hit or no hit.
To achieve the low bankroll requisite I had to be super creative on tweaking the idea of the recovery.

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94 Roulette Systems / I share my results with you (part of it)

« on: November 16, 2020, 09:05:42 PM »

As some of you know, I was trying to have a new version of my Bertrand, with the goal to have a very minimal
bankroll requirement. Has been very frustrating at the beginning, for obvious reasons.
Issues I had to solve were: how can I avoid the spiral of increasing debts? How can I have a system that does
not require heavy calculations? How can "hide" my system in plain sight, while other bystanders and the casino
see me playing?
Let me start with the third: I cannot. They will see me winning, and they understand there is a logic behind my
bet placing, but I am sure they cannot understand the flow of my system, so to speak. I can settle with this.
The second issue is resolved by the low number involved. My worst exposition so far was around 80 units, in
more than 3000 simulated spins and all my recorded outcomes (should be around 20 thousands), and even 80
was kinda unusual. A normal outstanding balance is below 50, and happens probably every 500 spins.
The third issue is already granted by my Bertrand. I found a way to get to the core of that idea (the core of the
core, I should say) and exploit it to the maximum.

Downside of it, is that the average profit is lower than the system I used so far. It is very stable though, around 1/3
of a unit a spin (300 spins, my basic daily work, will bring me 100 units profit).
I will not give you any hints but the three simulation I attach to this post. I selected them because show several
different situation of the game (a very bad start; an error in my placement/betting that I had to correct, resulting
in a longer than normal session; a plain an simple develop of the system, or as I should say a normal day).
Now, I have to try it live. I plan to make a challenge out of it. I will try to have my son with me on this, giving him
this version that is way simpler than my old one, and see how it works. If he agrees (and is a big "if" because is not
exactly his cup of tea) I will try to start with 200 units and grow from there, increasing the unit value every time he
can.

PS, for all people sending me email: keep working, I see nice ideas, but I think you drop those way to early to
chase another good idea. Try to work harder till you explore all possibility with a concept, then if nothing works
move to the next.

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95 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DrTalos - ESSENTIALS

« on: October 12, 2020, 11:25:10 PM »

jerome, the 0 is a number like the others. I don't rely on a single number. If I play it (for example like a street with
00 and 2 (in a double 0 wheel) or with 1 and 2 (in a single zero) match exactly the rest of the system.
Yes, because I start with EC, zero is a number that is not in my EC, like all the opposite EC I am not playing.

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96 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DrTalos - ESSENTIALS

« on: October 11, 2020, 02:58:48 PM »

I am happy for you Jayhan.

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97 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DrTalos - ESSENTIALS

« on: October 07, 2020, 01:02:08 PM »

I already answered to that question, but I will repeat again.

What I needed was a way to select my bet so I don't have to waste time, or get emotional, while playing. I tried
different methods (stick to the last outcomes, take the hot one, the cold one, my birthday, the present day...)
and all of them worked with very similar result.
I don't chase one single number, so I don't need that specific number to close the session.

Third, I said that every possible scenario, in the short term or the longest, will end up with a winning. I never
need consecutives wins (but speed up the game when that happens) and I am never (with the version I am
playing now) in need of more than 3 wins to close my game.

So, let's say I pick 6 as my pivotal number, I don't play this SU but maybe a dozen, or a street. If I get a 5 I will be
happy as well, and keeping the 6 as my pivotal. Same thing if I decide to chase the last outcome.
Mathematically, strategically, I "trap" the game and I patiently wait that something happen in my favor.
Sooner or later will happen if I manage to keep my need of money down to a very minimum.
The trap is my system. The cage I build around the wheel is my strenght. Patience is my weapon.

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98 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DrTalos - ESSENTIALS

« on: October 06, 2020, 08:56:28 PM »

Stratege, we have just that, opinions and thoughts. Nothing else. Truth, wisdom, knowledge in small parts, and
none of them is ours, but borrowed from others.
What you are referring to, about the dealer signature, is no more than a novel written around 1935, and after
that a movie. It is fiction, not reality. Confusion occurred, and there is no shame in it. Even you, Stratege, can be
wrong. Accept this fact and embrace it.
You can't cover a 12 numbers sector with 6 splits because of the arrangement of the numbers in the wheel.
I correct you about the story not to invalidate your opinion, that can be true nevertheless. As I say many times I
value your opinion (not the condescending tone you use or the arrogant behavior, but this is a personal
preference of mine, that makes no difference).
Now, maybe there is a value in bet selection. Personally, I am not smart enough to figure it out on my own, so I
decided to put efforts on some different strategies. Did I say my way is the only way? Nope, because I am sure
there are many ways to skin a cat.

As today, my attemp to run with a very low bankroll is unsuccessful. Who knows what tomorrow will bring, I have
hopes.

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99 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DrTalos - ESSENTIALS

« on: October 03, 2020, 12:37:34 PM »

Are you sure you did not get confused by the movie Memories of a cheater (1936) by the writer and director
Sacha Guiltry?

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100 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: October 03, 2020, 01:08:26 AM »

I keep write I will not guide you at my system. I give you suggestion in order to break some misconceptions that
stuck you in the loser side of the field.

This said, here's your answer. I look for an average. I can wait 300 numbers played and then got several hits
consecutively. Or some and then more wait. The only thing I relay on is that in the long run I will reach that ratio.
And woth that my profit. 16 ec bet missed brings you around 300 number played. As you can see is not
common but happens. How low are you at that point? That is all that matters.
I found a way to keep balance incredibly low, and I don't relay much on progression, that can be insidious.
With a progression, even a soft one, spiraling out of control is very easy. Helps in order to reduce the need of
winning hits compared to the losing one, but as I said is insidious.
Without a unusual way to look at the game you can't mimic my way. You need an enlightenment. On the
other hand, in all my post I put ideas you need. To be honest, I think I said everything you need to know in order
to win, and among them the weakness of the wheel and the seed for the "revolutionary" idea. Well hidden, but
still there.
No virtual players.

My last attempt is to bring exposition below 100 units. Seems impossible but can be done, I hope.

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101 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: October 02, 2020, 07:59:49 PM »

You guys are mixing stuff. During the years, I kept improving and working on my system. As today this is still true.
The example I made, to which you refer, had a needed bankroll (hypothetical, but still) of 1400 units. As I said
several time in that period. I was playing way more than 3 units on combinations.
Later, I worked hard to reduce the needed Bankroll and the bet size, so I talked about 2/3 units as max bet.
Now, I am working to reduced the max exposition to less than 100. Parameters will change again, and I am not
sure I will succeed. Before I change my way of play the new system must be better than the previous one.
Even the 1/60 ratio is something from the past (actually is 1/72).

So, what I wrote was correct, every time, but there is a difference in time that you should put into accounts. I am
not misleading, I just keep walking.

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102 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DrTalos - ESSENTIALS

« on: October 02, 2020, 12:31:28 AM »

First of all, I am sorry for my absence and the consequently lack of care of my mailbox. I am providing a clean up
so everybody will be able to send me their texts.
Someone accused me of not responding to some observations. Can be, I probably missed them because when
I check thebforum I just give a glimpse at the board for the most recent threads, and sure I have no time for
difgong into discussions. Please point out what post need a reply (unless I already answered, I will be glad to
reply).

These last weeks I made a robust redesign of my game, and I am currently testing it trying to perform 4/5000
spins a day. Is the biggest restyling I ever tried, so I am a little busy.

I think dealer signature is a myth. If such a thing exist, that dealer should be rich by now because he can partner
with friends and family to rake money.

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103 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DrTalos - ESSENTIALS

« on: September 30, 2020, 09:45:44 PM »

Labby, i stand up and clap at you for your last post. You got exactly my meaning here.
If I have nothing in my hands, why I would waste time and energy for years without any actual gain? This
make no sense. We hade private mail, with you and others, and would be very easy ask for some money for
hints here and there, but as you can confirm all I did is suggesting you roads to follow or other to dismiss (that
is true for your last email).
If I am right, you can get something out of my suggestions, even if you will not be able to get my Bertrand.

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104 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Profit/Spin ratio

« on: September 04, 2020, 08:20:27 PM »

Just a note: this probability chart you are explaining, uk-21, was the starting point of what became my Bertrand.

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105 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Profit/Spin ratio

« on: August 29, 2020, 08:48:52 PM »

Micky I am aware of that. Don't you worry.

Gia, you brought up an important, maybe the most important, question about roulette.
This is: is roulette a true random number generator?
If the answer is yes, roulette is mathematically beatable but in a way that is practically impossible
(martingale with an unlimited amount of money and no table limit), so every mathematician will say don't
waste your time, and whoever advocates unbeatability of roulette will (wrongly) make theirs the
mathematician assumption.
If your answer is no, then you have who thinks that skill and knowledge can find a pattern in an apparently
random number generations, or because of bias and defect (AP players) or the vast majority of professional
players around the word (I have met hundreds of them), who think they are able to identify where and when
and how to play, like you and Micky say repeatedly.
If there is a "secret" behind apparent random, way to exploit that (if we assume we can find it) belongs to skill
and practice. Analyze and analyze till you find an opening and, more often than normal, you will have a profit
to compensate the few losses. One of the oldest system I tried was following chances outcome for 9 spins, and
then play the opposite in the exact same sequence, because the chances to have the same pattern repeated
are incredibly low.

All of this is why I say my system is a revolution. My system "traps" the game till I don't have the money I want
from it. It is a perfect balance of risk and rewards so never goes out of control till my target hits. As I say, for me
roulette is a statistical game.

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106 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Profit/Spin ratio

« on: August 29, 2020, 06:34:03 PM »

Just to clarify that section about me, Micky.

Poor DrTalos is not a good definition. I knew, since the beginning, that I would face criticism, personal attacks and
more. Also, I knew that weirdos and dangers will come with that, people trying to get in touch with me in real life,
people way more educated than me on computers, tracking and such.
I accepted that risk, with the same attitude I have when, decided to have a veggie garden in my backyard, I
start fighting weeds, bugs and rabbits. It is part of the job.
Many people wants a plug and play, mechanical system that actually works. Despite all I see written in this
forum, mine is exactly that. They will not get that, for free or with money. What people can have are 2 things: an
encouragement towards their dream goal, because there is no more falser sentence than "can't be done"; and
few indications down the road that can help them finding some solutions to the same trouble I met in my path.
They will profit by that or be irritated by that is completely up to them, I don't care. My approach to the game is
not the only one that can win, I am sure, but is the only one I understand good enough to teach, or show, others.

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107 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: August 18, 2020, 05:14:08 PM »

Micky, not every game that doesn't end in the first spins gors for 70 plus spins. I don't know from the beginning
how much it will take to close that singular game. Like everybody's else I don't know what will happen after I
place my chip on the felt.
What do I know is that, no matter what, I sill end up with a profit, marginal or big is not on my will, but on the
wheel.

One of the strengths of my Bertrand is to keep the drawdown at the very minimum, so an aggressive
progression will not follow this guideline. And, from my point of view, if you wanna build a good system, what
you have to do is fix some principles and follow them. If your guideline is accurate you will have a winning
method, if not you will lose.

When you are at the drawing board, you have to take decisions for whatever can happens in the game. More
you plan ahead, more you map out possibilities, more chances you have to be profitable. That's why I don't
care about bet selection: I want to win at the very worst sequence.

A final note. I don't give my personal email to anybody. I already got enough weirdo and creeps at my door.

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108 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: August 15, 2020, 08:12:25 PM »

I did send you a message. If you get it you can just reply to that. Maybe it works.

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109 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: August 13, 2020, 09:01:55 PM »

Sorry, I got nothing in my mailbox

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110 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: August 08, 2020, 04:45:24 PM »

My mailbox is almost always full, so the bad may be on my side for your pm issue.
Your approach seems interesting and deserve more work.

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111 Questions and Answers / Re: Edge and Profit.

« on: July 31, 2020, 02:34:48 PM »

Gia, my estimate is between 50 to 100.

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112 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: July 21, 2020, 10:24:40 PM »

Let's try with an example: let's say a dozen can go missing, at a very nightmarish scenario, for 60 spins. Do you
have a way to survive 60 spins without a hit? If you find a way, it does not matter what dozen you pick, because
sooner or later it will hit.
When you have a system that covers your worst sequence. You sit at the table with the attitude "bring it on. I will
face everything and I will overcome. Give me your worst".

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113 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: July 21, 2020, 08:34:40 PM »

6th sense, you are spot on.

If you wanna win, you don't take care of things out of your control, instead you manage what you can control.
And those are just two: size of the bet and managing your bankroll.

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114 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: July 18, 2020, 07:28:27 PM »

The way you use tools in the game is because they help you to to achieve your target. By itself. Any tool is just
a tool. Any system is just a system. Any player just a player.
If you are fine tuning your system, using a tool in a way or another changes the result in a way that helps you
understand if you are foung in the right direction.
If you are still planning your system... that another story

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115 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: July 16, 2020, 06:50:57 PM »

Good afternoon Stratege.

I was wondering what has happen to you. In a year with no shortage of pains, yours was missing.

I thought (silly me) that that question was settled, apparently wasn't. I repeat one more time: i don't have other
accounts but this one, I don't need to back up myself, I had my Bertrand before my first post in this forum.
Your inaccurate statement, and your clear difficulties in grasping reality, building one of your like, can lead
you for years. You can end up as President, if you are rich enough.

The player is very important for the outcome, even without influencing the result, thing that he can clearly not
be able to do. I try to explain you in short words, so you have a chance to understand.
Let's say that Ricky has a system that allows him to determine where the ball lands. He knows, for example,
that after 3 24 21 the next number will be 35. He waits for the combination and after 4 hrs at the table 3 24 and
21 are out. He is happy and anxious to put his bet. 100 bucks, a single black chip. Has to fight to reach the
position because the table is crowded, he place the chip and wait for the ball to land. It does. Outcome is 35,
black, odd. He sees his chip placed on number 34 wiped away by the croupier. He misplaced it. He cannot
understand how but he did.
Now, In this situation he lost because the system didn't work or because he, a fallible human being, made a
mistake?

Take your time.

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116 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: July 15, 2020, 01:57:00 PM »

My profit is around 0.7. This means I get 2 units every 3 spins on average.
You have to consider that many of my games ends at the very first spin, and 80% of them before the sixth. My
wins in this early stage is from 1 to 5 units.
Then, sometimes, the game goes to recovery mode, and that can be a long a painful session. 30 spins is normal,
50 unsual, 70 rare. And my winnings are always around 3 to 11 units after those long sessions. All together gives
me the average I wrote on top of this reply.

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117 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: July 14, 2020, 07:47:43 PM »

Angels do not exists. And Talos the guardian was a myth. The meaning stays true though, as you cleverly pointed
out.
I had my losses. Decades of losses. But I kept working, dreaming of a system that could repay all the losses and
build a profit. Many have the same dream, and many have been and are damned by it.
I have been lucky, because when luck struck I was ready to catch and use the casual idea flying around me. As I
said many times, there are no hundreds of winners out there but I am not the only one.
My way to avoid the trouble is to move a lot. I am not in the same casino more than a couple of times a year.
Part of my earnings goes in flights and hotels. When the lockdown hit, I rested, spending the longest time at home
with my family I remember. Was nice.
I keep playing a lot, but I invested part of my money in other industries (especially restaurants. See, I am the
dumbest one), because there is a limit you can get from the casinos.
My score is good, and amazing if you consider last 6/7 years (but as a roulette player you know that you have to
consider the whole record).

I know my limits. My psychological limits. If I lose with a system, I cannot play it anymore, because I will be in
constant fear of a new loss. I will see every double bounce, every nearly hit, like a warning for the inevitable
demise. I would lose my confidence. And with that every possibility to end up as a winner. I need to go at the
table 100% sure I will get a profit.
And, moreover, my profit must be at the correct pace. My system cannot win 2000 units one day and 100 the
day after. Wins more or less the same units per spin. And I find this reassuring.
In a way, I am an accountant more than a player. A bore accountant and a quiet man. Not much of a fox, you
can see.
On the prophet side, it is what it is. I try to be helpful, in my own way, but it is ok if I get forgotten and with me my
hints and advices. I am here to offer an help, not to force anybody to follow me. (By the way, I am not going
anywhere...)

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118 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: July 14, 2020, 03:59:35 PM »

I don't get the exact meaning of your post. That is not unusual because I am the dumb one here.

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119 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: July 13, 2020, 05:53:48 PM »

well, Talos was the giant guarding Cretes, and in some derivated mythology, Talos was the Sun. Was invincible
but with a weak ankle that could cause his death (it will later used as a distinctive point on Achilleus).
But, my nickname as a Dr before that, for a meaning not so easy to unveil, I guess.
And that's, my friend, is good.

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120 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: July 13, 2020, 12:58:27 AM »

No, the idea was just a way to see the game in an unconventional way. The ratio is my way to optimize the
idea. When I started working on Bertrand, my ratio was way lower than 1/60, and I worked hard to improve it. In
a way, is the only thing I am working on since the beginning, because is the only thing I can shape keeping my
idea intact.

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121 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: July 12, 2020, 03:42:36 PM »

I think DrThanos would have been a way better nickname. I lost an opportunity here. My bad.

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122 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: July 09, 2020, 02:24:52 PM »

None of them, Labby. I was about to sleep and thinking about random stuff, and the idea just popped up. I
started writing down numbers and I started testing the thing right away.
Wasn't a complete plan, just an intuition, like a general direction towards. More like a crazy what if.

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123 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: July 08, 2020, 08:01:34 PM »

The truth is not on fox news. Sorry. I live in US. I just need to look around me to see the truth.

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124 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: July 08, 2020, 06:43:14 PM »

Scepticus: nope.

Micky, sure this is not the place for a debate. Moreover, there is no debate when people are outraged because
of statues and the same people do not get pissed when people are killed.

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125 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: July 07, 2020, 01:19:20 AM »

Micky, my English sucks. Sorry about that.

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126 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: July 06, 2020, 04:40:41 PM »

Charly, you are 4 years behind. I already proposed that, but with more money. In a real casino, you don't get to
see how I play. I win 500 units.
If I lose I give you 100.000$, if I win you give me 50.000$. Bring with you a lawyer, cash, and armed guard for
you to be safe. I will do the same.

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127 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: July 06, 2020, 03:50:55 PM »

Ahahah. No, is not. Would be great though. Send me whatever you like, I will help

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128 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: July 05, 2020, 11:56:01 PM »

Micky, I don't really understand what you mean.

We have the same moral code, the difference is in the application of it. We all know what is right and what is
wrong, but we decides to "believe" in things that tweaks our code to our greed, desire, or ignorance.
We know that if our child is sick, and we are not able to provide to their health, we wish someone (the
government, the system, God) will effectively provide for him or her. But, if is not our child the one in danger, then
some people decide to act like if it was our child while other simply don't care. This is not moral or ethic, this is a
choice that we make.
The same for the so called social injustice. Some people do not care about it unless they are the one suffering
from it. Inequality, same thing. Racism, Bigotism, Same same.
Now, in US, we have a portion of the country that fights for defending statues, while they never defended people.
Why is that? Because Statues represent what they think they are, the fulgid history of their ancestor, for whom
they are proud and take full charge of that legacy. But they don't take the responsability or the blame from the
same ancestor and their actions. Another choice.

Back to roulette. Here you have roughly three kind of people: who sneaks in to sell something they do not possess
(a system, a knowledge, a wisdom), who sneaks in to grab something they want but they don't want to give
anything for it (sweat, work, money or whatever that something they want entails) and, third, a group of people
that are lost in a mistery bigger than their (roulette) and have a pure willing of learn and some kind of
commitment to it.
I don't care about the first group, and even less about the second. But the third is something intriguing to me,
because I was part of it. And for them I give advice, hints, sometimes more and sometimes less, depends on
available time and mood, honestly speaking.
I care about these people and I'd love to help them without dissipating what I have. It is like when you give
change to an homeless. You light your conscience a bit and help his day a bit. Unless the latter does not decide
to take decisive action on his side, will stay homeless for life. It is a choice.
My advices are spare changes, easily misinterpreted. The last post from Leowls is a clear example of this. But I
do not intend to give you more than this. For the homeless, will not be a great help get a 5 dollar bill instead of a
couple quarters, so for you would be the same.
But, if you decide to go a little further, to take full charge of your travel and help yourself, I am here. Wanna send
me your ideas, your opinions, your projects? Do it, if I can I will help. if you try to decode my Bertrand, I will not.
I hope this distinction is clear.

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129 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: July 05, 2020, 09:02:02 PM »

Divisor is not much of a revolutionary idea. Divisor is a tool to keep down the exposition, but it "enhance"
variance. The balance between numbers played and hit is very important. More numbers means more hit.
Lower payouts means smaller profit.
All that there is to know is known. Is the way to use it that makes a difference. Sorry for repeating myself, but I
try to be clear.
When you sit at a table, the winner is the roulette. In order to be a winner yourself you have to build over your
losses. When your system fails (every system fails) you need to understand what "statistical" advantage you
have gained with your loss. At that point you have two options: accept the loss and move on (many players do
this, hoping that in the long run they will win more than they will lose), or using the advantage, that costed you
money to build, against the game. This is the recovery method. You can't use the recovery method from the
beginning because there is no statistical advantage to exploit.
Once you find a way to use the advantage on your favor, you will win.
I started considering a fair game of 1/37 hit for number played. Worked more or less. Then I forced my game to
get to 1/40, then 1/45 and so on and so forth.
The real change has happen after 1/54. Somehow you get a hit in this parameter. Is the wheel biased? Sounds
like it, or it is just that you don't consider the time when you play black and hit black. You, as a player, tend to
consider only the long unsuccesful games. You check how many numbers you played and find yourself in a
bad streak. But, before that bad streak you closed your game at the very first spin, so this must come to
account.
the 1/54 ratio hit consistently, but wasn't enough. Some games were too long and too tedious. There was a
profit too gain with just an extra hit that seemed to be evanescent like a fairy. The more I managed my
recovery to relay on worst ratio, the more the sessions shortened and the profit raised.

The "revolutionary" idea is the way to consider the statistical advantage in a playable recovery.
Must be revolutionary because other would have been found by now. Mathematicians, geeks, lab rats already
had analyzed to wheel in every possible way, so I suggest you to do 2 things.
First, you need to know who you are, what kind of player you are, what's your personallity, what's your style.
What's your comfort zone and what you are able to manage (big bankrolls? Long sessions? Whatever it is).
Second, once you know you, you have to study what happens when you lose. What has happen in the game
that you lost, what weird coincidences occured, and what is left for you to use.
Try to patch your game so those coincidences and that advantage will turn a negative into a positive. Then,
try to use the new finding in a different game. 99 times over 100 you will fail. You will find a solution just for the
game you fixed but is worthless in other situations. But more and more you try, more and more you learn. Bit by
bit, piece by piece. And one day your brain will provide an answer that keeps everything together, a magic
glue.
I can't help you more than saying this, and I know is insufficient unless you start working hard and consistently.

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130 Roulette Systems / Re: buffster system with a slight tweak

« on: June 25, 2020, 01:15:16 AM »

Leowls, I really do not want to sound like an asshole, but that downward spiral is exactly the problem I solved with
my "revolutionary" idea. if I help you there, I give you my system, and I will never do that.
Negative variance is the beast to defeat in order to win at this game. And there is no way you can put an end to
that spiral. In your game you have a -600, and you know that could have been worse. You can't allow your game
to go that deep down, because what you need to recover from that is an enormous wallet. And while you recover
everything can happen, even that the table closes, or you need to go in the bathroom... you played 150 spin in
that session, and in a full table can be a 8/10 hrs commitment.
But, at least, now you know where to work, where to focus your efforts.

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131 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: June 23, 2020, 01:03:29 PM »

Leows, this is not so important. Every sequence has is own rules. If you use payouts as an advantage, you scale
down to SU. What is important is how often you have to scale down to that. (I have never played a single
number, ever)

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132 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: June 23, 2020, 01:01:00 PM »

Yes, I bet at every spin.

No, I don't need consecutive spins. I need to achieve my ratio. If I have consecutive hits I gain a little more
money.

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133 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: June 23, 2020, 01:16:23 AM »

This is a personal threshold everyone must set for himself. Let say your limit is 2000 dollars cash. If you play 1 $
unit is 2000 Chips. But if you move to tables, you have a minimum of 5. Often more than that. In a 25$ chip
table, your 2000 are 80 units. If you can have a system for that bankroll, go for it.
I play with a bankroll of 400 units, that is exactly double of what I experienced as a maximum exposition. This
is a rule of mine. I think systems requiring 1000 or more units are not playable in a real casino, but as I said
sensitivity to this matter is personal.
On average, Bertrand moves around -30 to -60, for games reaching recovery mode. With a 50$ chips is 3000
dollars, a sum I can be confortable with at a table.
A progression shouldn't planned without control (I let it go as long as I can have money in my pocket, sort of
idea). Ist is not my way. I know what will be my esposition at every possible ratio. There is a mathematical limit
about how many hit you will have playing numbers on the felt, and that is my guide. As I said, if I get one single
hit after playing 330 numbers, that would be a drawdown of 150 or so units. Is like playing two dozens 14 times
and hit just one. Can happen, but not very often.
Hope I answered to your question.

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134 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: June 22, 2020, 11:45:48 PM »

Lockdown and illness allowed me to make a huge redesign of the system. All ideas fluctuating in my head for
most of 2019 has been put to a test, and the vast majority of them failed miserably, as it was supposed to be,
but some others showed potentials.
I keep principles of my game the same, and those are:

Keep exposition at the very minimum

play the most numbers with the least coins when you can
work with a manageable bankroll
don't get greedy
never accept a loss

This list summarizes all concepts present in this thread. The way I play the system is not very important,
important how I work with the recovery when an unusual mathematical variance occur.
My basic strategy move to a ratio of 1/81. If I don't get a hit in my basic system, after I played a total of 81
numbers, I go to the second part of my game that needs more than 1 hit to close the match.
The ratio needed to end stage 2 is 1/72 or better.
At stage 3 is 1/67.
At stage 4 is 1/72 again, as for stage 5.

The total number of stages is infinite. Exposition grows at every stage, but not very much. The max exposition at
level 3 is a little over 150 units, in a terrible scenario (something like 1/330).
My attempt is to be more flexible and doing so making the game shorter.
One of the flaws of my way of play is boredom, so I decided to have shorter sessions and possibility to close a
bad game in a reasonable timeframe. Long game do occur, something around 50/70 spins, but are very rare.

Why I write all of this? Well, I partially answered above, and I now complete that.
In this forum there are so many good ideas, but they are often badly developed, like Ferguson's FIVE system,
just to name one on the board this days. This is a pity. When you do a system, you will find if is worthy or not
only if you stretch to the maximum extent. If something work on chances, for example, must work with double
street as well (adjusting the game to the new payouts, obviously). The lack of courage in system making is sad.
This is not an attack or a belittling statement towards anyone. I try to embrace the meaning of this forum
helping as much as I can with my limited possibilities.

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135 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: June 13, 2020, 11:18:05 AM »

Yes yes yes no yes

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136 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: June 11, 2020, 01:19:59 AM »

Labby, I am a little behind with my correspondence. I let Blue Angel wait for weeks before I could check his
system. I am comfortably sure you don't have my Bertrand, but I will check...

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137 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: June 10, 2020, 12:08:34 PM »

You know what is funny? I know exactly when I took it. I was playing at a table. I had two guys close to me, one
of them had a bad cough. I said "are you ok?" And he look at me nodding. Then he made a movement with his
arm and knocked his pile of chips, and a black one rolled towards my pile. I stopped it and clicked it back.
I guess keeping something with me, invisible to my eyes.
Thank you for your kind words. All of you.

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138 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: June 10, 2020, 12:50:30 AM »

There is not much I can add to what I said during these years. I keep working on the system because I have a
lot of fun doing it, and over the years I improved it, with a better profit and a smaller bankroll needed, but at the
core it is exactly the same one I built back then.
I know that my indications are not crystal clear, and was intended. I don't want anyone get my Bertrand, and
still I encourage you to have your own.

Just a side answer to everybody sending me emails: I don't mind your questions, but I will not reveal any part of
my system to anybody, for free or for money. I am sorry if you are down economically or in a dire situation, but
this will not bring me to give my system to you. I worked hard for it, and there is no reason to gift it. I do enough
charity, I grant you.
If you have a system and what my opinion, I will give my thought without guiding you to my Bertrand. So many
send me broken system hoping me to "fix" it. Won't work, I am not that naive (but I am, I know).
My Bertrand is for my family. I written it in my will, so if something happens to me they will have written
instructions (my daughter is too young to understand it now). I was scared few months ago, and I had to think
a lot about it and what will happen if.
I know you are not really interested about this rant, but I want to play with cards on the table.

Some of you had very good intuitions, and some of those road just traced have been forgotten by others.
Seemed like a waste to me. There are so many good ideas in this forum, ideas that need just some more effort
from members.

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139 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: June 10, 2020, 12:31:32 AM »

Hi rif3mx,
I have been sick. I got the covid in January. Has been tough but I almost fully recovered. I still have a lot of
mucus in my lungs... well, nothing really important.

I had some personal mail exchange with people from this site, and I have used this time to work a little bit on my
system. No open casinos, as you know, so plenty of time to get a vacation from tables. I enjoyed that, after I get
back home in february.
I didn't check the forum, so forgive my disappearing. Thank you for asking.

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140 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 02, 2020, 08:20:38 PM »

Charly, you remind me an old joke.

There was this convict, with a life sentence without parole. He was working in the workshop inside the prison, as
a carpenter.
One day, he cut off his finger with the saw. He was send to the doctor for the medication but the finger was lost.
In a couple of months was back to work. Because of a silly accident, he cut his foot. That foot cannot be saved
and in few months, without a finger and a foot, was back at work. As you can imagine, another accident occured
and he lost his left hand. Back to the doctor wad approached by one of the guards, saying: "my friend, if your
trying to escape bit by bit, you will not succeed.

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141 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 02, 2020, 06:51:44 PM »

My friend, took me 25 years to learn how to win at roulette, and you want me to start studying Baccarat now?
No, is not just an EC game.

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142 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 02, 2020, 06:12:44 PM »

No idea. I don't know baccarat

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143 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 02, 2020, 02:57:50 AM »

My system is not simple, yet is not overly complicated. Its concept is counterintuitive, calculations needs to be
done and kept in your mind the all time. Once you get the main idea, the development of the system is kinda
linear.
No, there is no bet selection.
No, there is no progression (there is, but not the way you may think of)
Did you pay attention in class? I said the same thing over and over again...

The opening and the recovery are the same thing, sort of. They are both important (go figure).
Leowls, I use all of them in a very unusual way. What I don't use is triggers, virtual play, patterns, hot and cold,
physics, prayers.

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144 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 01, 2020, 11:32:04 PM »

Everything is possible. But is very unlikely that is all luck.

For years I played 4 days a week 10/12 hours a day, sometimes even more. In all conditions (airball and real
roulette tables), moving my bankroll from playing 50 cents to 50 dollars. This must be added to all the study
before playing, with my permanences and published ones, for hundreds of thousands spins. Can't be just luck
(but, if it is, I hope it last)

The second question is more interesting. I think that some of you could, but not all. There are two major problems
applying my method. The first is that Bertrand is boring as hell. You play in the same way for years, calculation
are more or less always the same, and after a while you really think you will die at the table. Sure, when you cash
your chips you get the excitement you seek. Is it enough? I am sure not for all.
Second, the tentations to tweak and improve it it is always there, and you could tweak it as much as you don't
remember how it was (people like Third, for example, will use his knowledge and experience in this new
environment). I think Bertrand can be improved but not over a certain extent, and I made enough back and forth
in tweaking to know what I can do and what I can't.

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145 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 01, 2020, 10:30:06 PM »

Unfortunately (for you) you are not right.

Progression, by itself, can't make a losing method a winning one.
For what I know, any path as been explored: progression, divisors, patterns, and so on and so forth.
I think you need to erase from your mind everything you think you know and start from a white board. In that
board, write down your enemy's characteristics, study the wheel, what it does, what it is forced to do, everything
about it.
Then, if your evaluation is complete, you can prepare a plan to attack it, to exploit what you think are its weak
spots. If your evaluation is correct you will succeed. If not you will join the company of so many that tried and
failed.

We have new tools nowadays, like computers and internet. They can be used but they can also be misleading. Be
careful. What I used was an intuition, a new path, and I worked hard to make it work.

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146 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 29, 2020, 04:15:56 PM »

Seems to me you guys are missing the point here.

The juice is not if I am an actual winner or no, because in both ways that will not change your day by a bit. The
reason I keep posting here is to stimulate you to chase new directions for beating the game. And, believe it or
not, even who wins needs social interactions, or likes to write on a forum. I don't understand what I should do:
living in a bank counting money? Bertrand made my life easier, did not change who I am.
It is absolutely ok if you pursue others way of see the game. There are so many good contributors here that
you just have to pick your own style and try. You can find more intellectual's approach like Stratege's, go on the
methodical application of Scepticus', AP players are prone to give you some hints and infos, and others like
Third tests each and every idea with incredible determination. To each one his own. Kav is kind enough to give
us this public square to confront ideas and knowledge.
My way to push for your own search won't amuse you? You have plenty of other threads to pick from. I will not
feel offended by that, the same way I don't feel myself proud or happy if someone's reads my posts or work on
my hints. It is just the way it is, the way I am. I think, I hope, not for anybody to decrypt my Bertrand, but to
design their own.
No, Nobel Prize for Roulette? That's silly. People beating the game are not a small group, and not a very
numerous one either. Is up to you to decide in which field you wanna roam. Or at least try to be.

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147 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 28, 2020, 01:33:13 AM »

I think it does not matter if it is mine or a variation of mine. If it is working, it is good.

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148 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 27, 2020, 12:39:44 AM »

Scepticus, my recovery is not just a progression, is not just a parachute, is not just a divisor, it is something
different. You have no way to find what it is and, yes, so many members tried to decrypt that with some partial
side successes (what I mean is they found something that can be useful by itself, even without getting my
Bertrand).
Usually people are way more disappointed by the fact that they cannot figure it out more than by the fact
that doesn't stand by some high expectation. My Bertrand grants me 100 units a day minimum with no fail in
years, I would love to know how many will be disappointed if they could put their hands on it...

I hope people will find a way to be winners at this game. It is an hard and cruel game, who made people ruin
families and kill themselves. This shouldn't be forgotten. It is tough. It is demanding. But if you get to the end, the
prize is huge.

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149 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 26, 2020, 05:10:25 PM »

Scepticus, I really don't care what you call a recovery or not, or what your definitions are. You can try to fit what I
write in your world or you tag it out, I really don't care.
I tried to explain my vision of it, how I play it and how I manage my game. If it is of some use for you enjoy, if not
disregard. There are so many scientists here to argue with, there is no need to pick the dumbest of them all (me).
Peace.

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150 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 26, 2020, 02:13:13 PM »

In my way of thinking, the recovery part is not much different from the opening. The only real difference is that
in the opening if you hit you close the game, in the recovery you need more than one hit.
To obtain that (seems very easy to understand, but here we are) you do a sort of progression that allows you
to recover the debt, but because you don't want to spiral your game out of control you do not "martingale" it
and choose a easy, slow increasing (can be in payouts or in increased bets or whatever you like). When you hit
you decrease your debt, when not you keep going.
What you rely on is that a certain point, if you can endure long enough, your negative sequence will turn in
your favor.the sharpest the chase for a recovery is, the hardest the hit on your bankroll, the slowest the safest.
The downside of that is that you can have long games where you are close to end but seems you never will.
There is when you need patience.
The recovery part played as the opening is the opening, if you get what I mean.

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151 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 25, 2020, 10:33:26 PM »

I always said that is the recovery system the core of any strategy, never the opening. I keep repeating the same
things over and over again.
Is it the recovery system a different system? Yes and No. You have a situation, at the end of the opening, that
you have to solve. Your situation is clearly a negative balance.
I said that my recovery is my recovery. Works for me and it's very hard that anybody can figure it out. But, on a
bright note, you can figure out a way by yourself that is even better than mine. And to give you the possibility to
obtain that I give you hints and suggestions pointing out where to look and what your "enemy" looks like. Can be
useful or not, is not up to me. I just spread a seed on the field. Some of them will have good results working that
way other will not have results at all.
I don't deserve the blame from the latters or the celebrations from the firsts, because you do the work, not me.

About the "multiple account accusation"... Again, once more? Really? I almost miss when you guys called me a
scammer. Well, almost.

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152 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 23, 2020, 02:51:24 AM »

Jayhan, means that a songle hit will not provide enough unit to bring the session in the black zone. If I am down
-23, for example, and I am playing streets, one unit bet, one hit will give me 12 units, reducing my debt to -11 but
not closing the game. That what it means.
About your question frequency, I can play a game of chess blindfolded, so I think you have an answer there.

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153 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 22, 2020, 08:05:55 PM »

Endurance is the key. You need to survive the sequence of hell without losing your bankroll.
The only way I found is bet the very minimum that you can, with the most possibility to hit. If I have to recover 7
units I will play a quad, instead of 2 units on a ds, or 4 on a dz. 1 units on a quad grant me two spins, for a total of 8
numbers cover, with the same cost.

I had my sequence from hell, be sure. Are part of the game. That why I keep telling you guys that you need to
focus on the recovery. Even AP players must deal with loss, because predictions are predictions, not certainty, so
they use stop loss or something like that, and on average they win, even if they do not win each and every time.
Sure you can reduce your chances to go on recovery mode, playing low and steady and fixing a huge bankroll,
but sooner or later you will face a situation where you have to recover or accept the loss. I cannot accept the
loss.

I tried to scaling down using payouts, so at the end I was playing just one number, moving down from EC. 35
spins for a total of 102 numbers played. Not much sessions needed a recovery, but when that happened, I had to
build my way back from the pit of -35. Very hard to do if you do not want to invest huge capitals.
Remember you need just one bad day, one bad session, to wipe out what you gained in months. And that
session will tear down your confidence in your system as well, even if you are still winning some money.
Your confidence is another thing you need facing the game.

A guy, once, told me that the recovery mode start after your first spin. If you don't win your first bet, you are
recovering the loss. I think makes a lot of sense.
My definition is that a recovery mode means you need more than you hit to be back in positive. Those two
concepts are your guidelines. It is way simpler than what other says. Albert Einstein said that if you can't explain it
simply, you don't understand it well enough.

Take chess, for example. You have so many fixed openings, each and every one of them gives you a position,
with strategic strenghts and flaws, and from that point, considering what your opponent did, allows you to build
your way to victory, if you are better than your opponent. Roulette is the same. The first part of your system is
your opening, and at the end of the development of it it gives you a position that, accordingly to your preference
and your skill, has strengths to be used against your opponent, and weak spots you have to pay attention to. The
wheel is a formidable opponent that can do just one thing, tremendously well. You can do all the rest. Is the only
casino's game where you have all the cards. Till it last.

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154 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 22, 2020, 01:53:54 PM »

I understand the confusion.

I play three games simultaneously, because my way to play now reduced the bankroll needed but also the
profit, so to compensate I decided this approach. As a side effect, I can complete a session even if not all three
games are positive, as my description shows.
This is exactly the opening I used in roulette simulator, and the one I use at Casinos.

I was playing an eleven spins opening but I found that the average game was too long. As I said so many times,
the opening makes no difference in a system. Every one of them they bring you to a two different result, or a win
or a loss. For the loss, you have to find a way to erase that debt, and this is the recovery session. The recovery is
the very heart of any system, due the inevitability of a sequence that produce a loss in the opening.
If you wanna do an opening in flat bet, start with ec, than dz, then ds for three times, then quad three times, then
street three times, than split 7 times. You played 17 spins and a total of 84 numbers played. Your exposition is -17.
My exposition now is -5, way more manageable than -17, and I played less than a third of spins, covering a little
less than half that amount of numbers. Seems way more efficient, to me, but I can be wrong.

You can have ec, ecx2, dzx2, dzx3. Total numbers played 60, exposition 8 pieces, in 4 spins. Pick what you prefer.

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155 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 22, 2020, 01:56:48 AM »

Sorry frequency this information is not available. From that point I begin the recovery part and I will never give
infos about that. Sure you understand. I already said way more than usual.

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156 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 22, 2020, 12:32:21 AM »

I cannot say that for sure because I don't write down my games and I do all calculations in my mind. Sure a
series of hits, especially if happens when I just make a change (in size of bet or position) can generate that
favorable statistic.

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157 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 22, 2020, 12:29:35 AM »

Frequency, is not a big secret the way I start my game.

I play three game simultaneously, using EC.
If I hit two or three of them, I hav +1 or +3, and this end the game
Other possibility are that I get one or none. if the first I move my two remaining games to columns and dozens.
One hit close the second game and keep the third alive, while both hitting grants me a +3 of the session (I have
just 4 numbers for this to happen). the third bet is on DZ for three spins. In case I hit in the first spin one of the 2
dozens, the game is over with a gain of +1 and I start over, if not I proceed.
In case I got nothing in the first spin, I move to 2 dozens and one column or the other way around. The rest goes
till the fifth spins unless I hit in the third and fourth (again +1 so start over).

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158 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 21, 2020, 10:25:51 PM »

I made a fast game now on roulette simulator, to express better what I meant. I think this is a crucial aspect for
you guys. If you grasp it you got it all (well, not all of it, but a good portion for sure. What's left is something I
can't provide hints about)

In this game, you can see that I go down frequently (just a little more than half of the sessions ends fast) but
the down arrow doesn't go down very deep and the way back is fast. It is a slightly lucky session, but not crazy
lucky if you know what I mean, and the gain was steady and safe.
Sometimes the game can stall at -1/-2 for some spins, and you can be tempted to accept the loss and start
over, but I do not like it. Losing is losing, even just a single unit, and I can't accept it.
The rest is there. If you have question I am here.

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159 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 21, 2020, 09:36:37 PM »

Frequency you are correct.

When I redesigned the system I accepted to lose some "safety" to gain a reduced bankroll. Knowing that I could
sustain a 1:380 without trouble made me playing comfortably. You have to remember that when I started using
my Bertrand my economic situation wasn't good, so I couldn't afford any losing session. Or, better,
psychologically I couldn't accept that (too many years of that, I guess). I tried to find the smoothest way to get at
least a minimal gain every session (what you guys are trying to get now).
Year after year, my worst nightmare didn't materialized (some sequences from hell are possible only on paper. I
had bad sessions but not as bad as my fears depicted them beforehand). Because of that I tweaked the system
in order to have less ups and downs, and shorter games (I remember a day when a session lasted for almost 200
spins, that means almost 5 hours of play).
The average win changed a little, but this version allows me to play big chips and be happy with 100/150 units in
a work day. Reducing my visits at the Casinos simplified my life a lot. I am not that young anymore, and I want to
enjoy some time out of those buildings.

Sorry, back to the topic: one of the basic ideas was reducing the sessions that needs a recovery. Clearly, more
numbers you play more this possibility becomes real. The downside is that session that do not close early brings
more debt to recover in the second half of the game, so you need to find a balance between the two options.
Because recovery is inevitable, better start with a good situation. That why I accepted to have more sessions to
go in recovery mode and less ended at first hit. As now, the "recovery" start at spin number six, while for some
time the recovery started at spin 18. On the other hand, 2/3 of the recovery games ends in the first 3 spins, and
almost 90% before 15 spins.
Also, I mostly play flat bet, but I guess I already said that.

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160 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 20, 2020, 05:36:40 PM »

Yes, I did. I came to the conclusion that you should always play in a way that every time you hit you should get at
least double the amount you had bet in that spin. Less than 1:1 is just a waste of time and hits.
Play a lot of numbers gives you the feeling you are winning, while you are actually slowly bleeding out your
bankroll. The method you are suggesting is good only if you have a hit in the first two/three spins. After that you
start swimming in the ocean, with the tide against you.

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161 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 20, 2020, 04:34:43 PM »

My English really sucks..

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162 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 20, 2020, 01:32:05 AM »

NewbieRoulettePlayer, this particular session is from Roulette-simulator, and is of a relative importance. I don't
know how reliable is this test, despite the fact that the result are very similar to the ones I have in real play
Casinos. My goal was to show to Third and others, who asked for infos in private messages, how I intend a
"manageable system".
My bankroll is 250 units, but I never reached a -150 in my games. For good measure, I have the habit to double
the maximum exposure I ever witnessed. If my system will reach, for instance, -200, I will bring 400 units with me.
So, this is a demo, nothing more. If were real, 100 units are equal to 5000$, because I play with 50$ chips (I am
sure I already said that).
This particular case never reached 30% of my bankroll, but this is kinda common. The vast majority of my days
does not need more than 40% of my bankroll. Speaking of progression (that should be the topic of this thread) I
usually reach a x2 and rarely a x3.

268 spins are 5/6 hours at the table. In Vegas I play in the High Limits Table, so they go fast and I am usually
alone or with few other players. I don't go to Vegas more than a couple times a year, though. I have good Casinos
around here so there is really no need. And I don't play often as in the past.

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163 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 20, 2020, 12:05:47 AM »

When you have a long less profitable game you will have a better one, and when you have a very good one
you will have a slow painful after that. Because my Bertrand is a statistical money management system, all I
consider is the average.
I just made another attempt at this (can you tell I am home doing nothing today, right?) to show how can I
get 100 units in 250 spins or so.

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164 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 19, 2020, 10:10:31 PM »

The long game started when I was around +40, and took a lot of spins to get back to positive. This is exactly
why I call the game boring. Usually I put 3/4 chips on the table, so not exactly exciting gambling.
Honestly, is not so common. I keep my goal to 100 units. Sometimes in 5 hrs I am out, sometimes I need 10. In a
crowded table I leave, to continue in a better one. Imagine be stuck on a table to see 12 spins an hour....

Is a job. No more no less. Must be conducted as such.

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165 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 19, 2020, 06:17:28 PM »

I wasn't happy to keep losing money!

I don't exactly remember the process that brought me to have the idea of my recovery, but I clearly remember
what approach I used to build my Bertrand: Play the minimum possible and optimize my game.
I checked how many numbers I had to play in order to have a hit and, with my surprise, I found that on average I
get a hit every 50 numbers played (was a miscalculation, due to the way I considered my sessions of play).
Because of that, I developed a money management system to sustain that average. When I was comfortable
with that I tried to go a little over, with a ratio of 54, and more and more, till I reached a safe net of 60.
For many years that was my standard. And was good till I grow the desire to spend less time in front of a wheel
and more time with my family, so I tweaked Bertrand in order to reduce the bankroll needed and so raising the
value of the units.
I am ok with 100 units a day, and I play 50$ units. I don't play every day, or even every week. I invested my profits
in other things so my children can have something when I go, other than my Bertrand.
As today my needed bankroll is roughly 200 units, I don't think I can stretch it further but I don't know for sure.
I don't think that the ratio is still so strict. In a fortunate set of events I can end a game with a 1:84 ratio, and
sometimes a 1:58 is not enough by a mere unit. That's the price I pay for my changes.

I could give you the first bets I put on the felt and you wouldn't be able to get the system, because what you need
is a different perspective on the game, not a step by step process. This is the reason why I insist to give you hints.
Most of them you all ignore, because I don't say it plainly but alluding, suggesting. I am sure this is a good way to
vet who can get it. and for "it" I don't mean my Bertrand, but your own. Maybe your solution will be even better
than mine, who knows.

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166 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 19, 2020, 05:07:40 PM »

Third, this is a most decent example. As you can see, the drawdown is around -40. Consider that I use a double
00 roulette for this try. Game is, as I said, kinda boring, because you have just to wait to get a good
combination. You have all the time in the world for that, because the game stays always afloat.
One time I had to briefly go x2, the rest has been played flat bet.
Is a good example of a single day work, but the average winning is a little under par. This is the latest version
of Bertrand, because I wanted to dramatically reduce bankroll needed, in order to be able to play with big
chips.

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167 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 19, 2020, 02:18:29 PM »

Jayhan, as I said many times the "target" for me is the ratio. My bet selection is just a pattern that allows me to
avoid the complication of choosing where and what to bet. For me really does not change if you have your
birthday number as a fixed target or you switch every time, also there is no difference between the System and
the Recovery. What is different between the two is that the System needs just a hit to close the session, while
the recovery needs more than one hit. Basically, it is the same exact game.

Increasing value is the most dangerous thing in roulette. The bankroll you need for a progression is what really
puts you out of the game. The session became like a race: will you recover your debt or will you run out of
money? Casinos wins with the latter. This is the reason why I designed my Bertrand with one thing clear in my
mind: lowest possible bankroll needed. Even if you can afford 1000 units bankroll, design a system with 200
units. This is mandatory.

I put out the diagram answering to a request from Third. I wished to show him that you don't need big hits, but
a series of small ones. Small ones can be achieved only in one way: following the game, expanding your field
when needed and the other way around when you can. If you hit you close the game, otherwise you expands
again waiting for the next opportunity to close. Sooner or later it will happen.
It is a game of patience and discipline. Boring as hell, in my opinion, but profitable.

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168 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 18, 2020, 11:59:39 PM »

If someone can get my system with this image, definitely deserve to have it!

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169 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: A new system and a fresh way to look at progressions
« on: February 18, 2020, 10:55:26 PM »

Referred to the email we exchanged (and because can be useful to others) I made a session of 200 spins with
my method. As you can see, I had a bad game from the get go, but the debt was around 100 units max, so easy
to recover. The full session underperformed (normal to happen in such a short permanence) but you should
get the idea nevertheless.

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170 Gambling Philosophy / Re: EPISTEMOLOGY

« on: February 18, 2020, 05:20:20 PM »

I keep write that we should address the ideas proposed, not the persons bringing them. If we blame the
messenger instead of the message we defeat the purpose of this forum.
I don't understand, honestly I don't, why people that says they are winning are so prone to belittle other people
that says just the same. How can someone be credible if in the same sentence writes "Is impossible to win at
roulette but I win consistently" and the derivate from this is "Because is impossible your claim is false, because I
said that your claiming are fake mine is real, I win".

Now, it is set that I am a novice, gullible and liar, so there is no more about me than that. Still, I hope someone can
go over all this "penis measurements" and talk about ideas, each and everyone from his own perspective and
history, knowledge and skill. If we can't learn from each other it is very hard to believe we can learn from Roulette
how to beat the game.

I am sure some people here wins. Only, they don't win every time and are making a fortune out of it. They have up
and down and they try to improve their game to raise their income, as everyone does starting any career in any
field. This is no different. Open a store at 1 mile radius from a huge mall is a game as hopeless as attacking a
casino. Still some try, and some succeed.
The only thing I cannot accept is the word "Impossible". Nothing is impossible, with determination and will, some
luck and efforts, everything can be done. That is my philosophy.

Epistemology means also the production of knowledge. In this matter, there will never be just one source, but
many. you need more than a single stream to make a lake.

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171 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Myths

« on: February 13, 2020, 05:35:55 PM »

I never said I "believe" in VB or predictions based on physics. I don't know the matter so I don't speak about it.
Maybe works maybe not I have no authority or knowledge to confirm or deny.
Some people here say they win with it. I acknowledge that. Who am I to say they are lying or they say the truth?
So, it may be.

Roulette is a game of chances. The wheel is a random number generator. Everything affect the outcome, that is
way I don't try to predict the result. I am not good at it.
I see the game as a money management game. If I have control over my bankroll, I will win, no matter what the
wheel will say.
In my opinion Martingale is a perfect unplayable winning system. My work has been make a playable
martingale. Few years of continuing successes proves it for me.

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172 Gambling Philosophy / Myths

« on: February 08, 2020, 01:19:55 AM »

This purpose of this is just to generate conversation. I would love to see people discussing with respect, from
their point of view and with their experience. I think these topics are important because, and it is just my
opinion, wasting time on these doesn't allow people to concentrate on what can be valuable for them.
There are so many ways to attack the game, and the vast majority of them is just a way to lose in a classy
fashion. Moreover, recently this forum is less an ideas driven place and more a fight arena or a copy and paste
systems of disputable utility.
I cannot say enough that we need to fight against the Roulette, not against each other.

So, these are 3 "myths" that are persistent in the player's mind, and I try to give you my opinion on them. I will be
delighted to be proven wrong with datas more than opinions, but because what I present are my opinions (no
matter how much backed by my personal experience and knowledge), I sure welcome yours.

Myth number 1 - Signature dealer:

I don't believe there is such a thing, for a lot of of reasons. I will cut down to the obvious. The variable are way
too many (a fraction of force from the dealer makes such a difference in the course of the ball like hitting that
diamond, or the corner of the pocket, for example) to be of any use.
If a dealer can send the ball in a specific sector of the wheel, he/she would have a partner at the table making
both rich. Can be just a hit and run strategy, can be a more subtle game, with some losses and a great win, or
any mix of the two. Family and friends will be well served for life, even play something like once a month. All you
need is a single hit for a couple thousand each, something that will be completely unnoticed by the eye in the
sky.

That does not mean that the course of the ball can't be predicted. I believe that in some particular places, with
specific conditions, a wheel can be biased, and that bias can be exploited by a player, but the dealer is out of
the equation for me.

Myth number 2 - Wheel arrangement:

By this I mean the way numbers are spread along the wheel. The alternate position of red and Black, for
example, or the almost regular division for dozens and columns etc. etc. I think this does not change by a bit
the outcome. Has been made to give the idea of a more casual outcome, and ,like slots, to give the impression
to a gambler that if not hit, player has almost hit ("the pocket close to hit" effect). This generate the gambling
frenzy (I was so close), and this is all what Casinos want.
If the number were all in order, from 0 to 36, diligently placed around the wheel, the general result will be the
same (the HE would have been exactly the same, in the long run). The play in sectors (Orphans, Close to 0 and
such) is encouraged to stimulate gambling, not to help gamblers (you don't say...).

Myth number 3 - Triggers:

I don't believe in virtual play, triggers, or virtual loss. I do believe that "seems" to work, and this just because the
games played are fewer. Let me make an example: If I start my game at every number spun, I will play maybe
100 sessions of my system in a day. In those 100 games I will win 75 times and lose 25.

I don't like those 25, so I try to create a mechanism to "qualify" a table. At the end of the night I played 10
session and I lost just once. In my mind seems to work, because I lost just once, less than what I had previously.
Well, because the total number of session played is different, the variance seems to work in our favor, but is
not so. The difference is really just a single hit, way understandable in the low number of trial.
If you compare similar number of sessions, results will be the same, I think. I suggest to do the same game
someone play with triggers, without. Like 5000 sessions, should be good. In 5000 sessions, once played every
time you finished your game, and the second time "qualifying" your table, you will have the same result.

The last topic I have long discussed with a friend of mine (a big mathematical brain) having the Palestis Dozen
system in my mind, that has so many players using it profitably. He is sure that is just a wrong perception that
can make you think that there is a "rule" or flag guiding you in a positive session. Results are unrelated, from
one spin to another, so impossible to exploit. As mine, his is just one opinion, not the Bible.

I once again say sorry for my English. I hope the general idea of what I am trying to say is still there.

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173 Roulette Systems / Re: Talos BOOM!!!

« on: February 07, 2020, 02:22:43 PM »

My opinion is that if a progression is too steep the divisor is useless. I would anchor the divisor to fixed
"signposts" of the debt.

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174 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: MickyP...

« on: February 03, 2020, 11:38:33 PM »

I really need the patience of Jacob, here.

Few things, and then arguing with you is over for me. Just trying to put some boundaries here.
When I complimented you that was real. I still appreciate your reasoning, like I appreciate Mr. Perfect's. What I
don't like, and you two keep doing that, is the personal attack to people.
No matter what you think about me, or about MickyP, you should keep that in your mind, not on a public
forum. It is offensive and inappropriate. Because you are protected by the screen, you think you can, but you
will never say that face to face judging someone by few opinions expressed, or few stories told. There is a
normal decency humans have apparently forgotten in this modern times. (Guarding dogs is a metaphor. You
aware of their existence?)
One of the many wrong assumptions you make is that me and rif3mx are the same person. Please Kav clarify
that to him if you can. I don't have multiple accounts. When you assume, a friend of mine use to say, are
making an ASS of U and ME.

Impossible? Run a mile in less than 4 minutes was considered impossible, now high school kids can do it. Keep
the word impossible for you, we dreamers we don't want to carry your weight. I don't ask anybody to believe I
have a winning system. I ask them to find their own if they can. It is a very different thing.
We really don't worth your time here. Please leave, and leave us to our daydreams. We are good with them.
And, by the way, we don't have any money to give to you guys, to buy your expensive computers or your
wonderful lessons.

The key of the game is on the player. If he has no discipline, no focus, no ambitions; if has a gamble hearth, he
cannot win. That's is the human ability he needs to possess in order to win. The target is in the archer, ancient
East Philosophers were use to say.
You keep talking about my progression, but you don't know it. You don't even know if is a progression, less than
that if is a positive or negative progression. You know nothing about my play, how can you judge it? Oh, I know,
because you presume. You presume you know everything about me. And you don't even know that I have just
one account...
I do not support MickyP. I think many of his views are incorrect (especially about politics). That doesn't
authorize me to consider him a lesser being, an idiot (a cretin Mr. Perfect is use to say) or else. I can respect
people with a different story, attitude, vision, education.. I respect you, and Mr. Perfect, believe it or not.
I keep thinking that personal attack are bad. Profiling people out of assumption is bad. Degrading other
people experience is bad. Belittling, naming, are bad things.
You are not better (and not worst) than anybody here, even if you consider yourself up there in a pillar. And
nobody asked you for salvation, asked you to "open their eyes", to burst their bubble of fantasy. Nobody asked
for your help, really. Please stop saving people than are not in danger. I do pretty good on my own, my friend,
there is no need to worry.
You are not as good as you think you are. You have no clue. You speak to yourselves. You are not but a hitch in
the butt, believe. Your contribution is precious if stays on the game, otherwise your approximative depictions of
us newbie is really useless.

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175 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: MickyP...

« on: February 02, 2020, 08:17:56 PM »

[quoteI take a very curious example with Mr. Talos. A year ago, he said he was losing a few shares and wanted to
win all of his shares. Curiously, a month later, this research had been successful, the miracle had happened. I
spent years studying progressions, like many others, for centuries, even before the invention of roulette (wealthy
gamblers paid mathematicians to find methods for other games). We all failed, but during this time, Talos
succeeded 2 exploits: beat roulette with a childish progression, by conceding a few lost shares, and a second
exploit by gaining all its shares with its childish progression.[/size][/font][/color][/size]The fervor on the Talos
approach forum grew last month. So MickyP comes back saying "thank you Talos, I understood, thanks to you,
how to recover my losses and earn more[/i]". This is a third feat on this forum! But it's not over, no! A new member
Rif3mx (unpronounceable pseudonym and who does not stick with a real person) comes to speak about a
fourth exploit! He found the secret of Talos! Talos does not want thanks, why? If a member said to me, "I followed
your words and your steps, and I found[/i]", I would be happy and intrigued. I would ask this member to explain
his vision, his path to me, because they cannot be the same as what I did. And that’s what is so rewarding,
meeting someone who understands what we mean but, without telling everyone! It would be a great meeting (in
private message), and I would at least congratulate this researcher, I would send him the honors after his
explanations.[/size][/font]

I see guarding dogs are been unleashed. Well, I try once more to explain to people apparently not able to read.

I never said I was losing last year. I said I was losing in the past, like any other player approaching roulette. I did lose a lot of money, back in the
days, and many times I throw away all my papers, systems, recorded outcomes, and surrender to the inflexibility of the game.
There is no shame in that. So many tried and the vast majority of them lost.
Roulette has been invented, by Pascal, to create a random number generator. Wasn't planned as a gambling device at all. Someone else so
this potential in it and tried, successfully, to make it a hit in the casinos, and other place of gambling, in substitution of a game very similar
called Biribisso (or Biribi) and the more popular Boule. Wikipedia tells lightly different story, but I am sure mine is correct, because as a history
scholar I found more sources pointing in this direction.
Then Blanc's brothers did all the changes we all know. All the fable tales Stratege is telling are kinda funny. The researcher back in the days
were about how to bias the game without people knowing, more than exploiting the mathematical lock game possess. Find an honest wheel
was more hard than the proverbial Hay in the haystack.
The pure fact that you spent years studying without result make no sense. So many people, better than you and me, studied a topic and didn't
get through because of limits on their own, not because the field was in the realm of the impossible. Every time someone states "I did research
and I didn't get your result, so this means you cannot reach it" sounds exactly as stupid as a folk saying Australia does not exist because he is
never been there.
I play successfully roulette since Obama was President. You have no idea how my progression (if any) works. How can you judge it? (without
using your prejudice, I mean).

About the thanks. Why someone should reveal to me their way to exploit the game? They gained their result and is all up to them. Funny is that I
have been accused to give this silly ideas out so someone can create the HG and then make me part of it, making them work like numb
scientists handing over their success to me. And now you are say that I should have done that?
If they want to, my email is there. Maybe they are close but cannot find the right missing piece. If they are in this situation I can try to help, but
if they do not want to reveal their secret, that is completely fine with me. I say all the time that I don't deserve any credit more than a signpost
giving you direction to a place. All the trip is on you. Enjoy.
Don't worry, nobody will say the same to you, because you have not much to give. You can sleep quiet at night nobody will knock at your door
with a thankful not.
I always congratulates them, because they deserve it. They want through all the hard work, the defeats, the nay sayer like you, and they finally
did.
Do I think all of whom thanked me gained the goal? No. They don't. They are in the process. They started to invert the spiral to continuous
losing to some small victories, once in a while. Maybe they managed to go even for a short amount of time, or win few sessions, and in a burst
of enthusiasm they declare they defeated the beast. What is wrong in that? A step closer is a step closer, even a little one. Who am I to spit on
their efforts? Who am I to judge other people's success?

About fake profiles, I have been accused to do that as well. My English, as you can see, is far from perfection. I hardly manage to make myself
clear in my posts, how could I change my writing pattern to mimic other person's English? Too much work, way too much. And for what? To sell
something I am not selling? To have a fame that do not belong to a real person but to a nickname on a roulette forum?
I am guilty to give people hope? Nowadays we need hope, we need to remember ourselves that impossible is just a word. How many
impossible thing we already did, and how many we will do, despite people belittling us, mocking us for our methods, for our vision.
If this is the case, I am guilty as charged.

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176 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: MickyP...

« on: February 01, 2020, 10:01:46 PM »

Yes, I can see it. There is your face in it.

If someone has a system to win, it keep it private. There is no need to make it public. In the history of mankind few
people had found a key to win. I met at least a couple I am sure they did, and sure you don't hear from them, or
they have a book to sell or lessons to teach.
I wished, at a certain point in my life, to declare that the game can be beaten. And I said it to make people try
harder to get their own results, despite people like you who say that cannot be beaten unless they give money to
them (you) in order to improve their chances.
I offered a challenge once, to put thousands of dollars on the table and see me winning with my system. I let
people decide the place and the target, and once I'd reach that, the suitcase with the money would have been
mine. If I fail, I said, my money will be yours. Nobody accepted.
Doctoring a bank statement it is easy, a photo in front of a luxury house, or close to a Lamborghini parked... are
those proofs? They sell scam with those things. I am not of that bunch. I have nothing to sell.
You, on the other hand, are selling. And you use this forum to gain reputations and then gain customers. And
you say others are selling snake oil.
My friend, I offered peace once, and you rejected. I offer to you peace a second time. It is very unwise slap a
hand that want to be shaken.
I don't say you cannot say your words here and there. Au contraire, you are mostly welcome. But, when you do
that, stay to roulette and math, or whatever you like, standing far away from anything personal. I respect, I say
once more, you opinions. I don't respect your attitude.
You can say you never heard or have proof of a winning system, but you cannot say that I am a liar or a
scammer, because you don't know. You assume. You think. You believe.
Same for MickyP, or back in the days Real, or Mr. J. We should talk about roulette, with the best of our knowledge
and our comprehension, knowing that there is way more than what we know and we can comprehend.
Be humble, I am saying, and kind. This is free of charge. You will be way more accepted if you come with a rose
than with a hammer.

Kav decided, wisely, to let the forum run wildly and let it regulate itself, unless it goes crazy and needs his
intervention. Because we share the same space in his house, a little etiquette would have been appreciated, I am
sure.
I say again: you are entitled to your own opinion, but your opinion cannot be a dispregiative tag, or an insult, to
anybody.

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177 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: MickyP...

« on: January 31, 2020, 11:57:36 PM »

It is not the truth to be arrogant, is the way you carry yourself arrogant. Unfortunately I don't have the time nor the
crayons to explain you the difference.
I think someone whose never learned how to behave cannot really teach anything to anybody. But I see that is
your job: teaching others a way to get a living from roulette, implying that you cannot get a living out of it and are
in need to sell something to make your ends meet.

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178 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: MickyP...

« on: January 31, 2020, 10:22:06 PM »

I got two problems with you, Mr. Perfect: first is your rudeness, second your arrogance.
Let me address rudeness. There is no need to belittle, to offend, to spit on people. The more you know, the wiser
you get, you learn that everybody is fighting to get the best out of their skill, intelligence, strength, and knowledge.
And moreover, everyone is entitled to be respected by others, no matter how "primitive", ignorant or weak their
position seems to be. Respect for other is a wonderful way to show how far we advanced as a person and
human being. The way someone act shows the real character.
Arrogance. If someone believes that what he knows is all there is to know about something, that shows exactly
how limited is his vision. Really you think you know everything about this game, and there is no more for anybody,
in the history of the world, or in the future, no matter how intelligent he or she could be, to discover? Are you
considering yourself at the top of the roulette knowledge, and your field of operation the only possible solution for
the fight we share?
How many presumptions has been wiped out by history. Every time someone said "This is end of this matter"
found someone that proceeded a little further. Roulette is no different. When I said that mathematically speaking
Roulette is an unbeatable game, so I had to find a different way, you mocked me. But is not Visual Ballistic a way
to exploit the game that differs from math? Aren't you using physic to beat the game?

I really appreciate your posts, the ones that show a deep understanding of the game and in so many aspect we
do share the same opinions (like progressions, gambler's fallacy, HE, virtual play), but what is really sad about
you is that you enjoy spending time fighting with others, trying to expose their weakness, their (presumed)
personality, in order to gain advantage over them. You name others, you tag others, you try to raise yourself
hammering down who shares this forum with you. MickyP is one of many, and pages of pages of this is really
mortifying.
May I suggest to just keep conversation about the game? There are many ways to skin a cat, but none of them
is punching in the face the other skinners, if you allow me this hard metaphor.

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179 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 15, 2020, 01:55:07 AM »

This thing is getting old. Allow me to clarify my position.

I started posting in 2015, and since day 1 I have been accused to be a scammer, a liar, and worse. As today,
nobody received from me a request for money or the promise, even vaguely, that I wish to sell my system.
So many times I received offer in my email, from members of this forum, and at all of them I answered the
same: my system is not for sale.
So, in roughly 5 years, there is no concrete facts about the accusation written by Mr Perfect who, au contraire,
sells his "knowledge" and I remember some praisies of his ability by his clientele, published here. Not once I put a
word on that, as a matter of respect, even if I think that mr Perfect has nothing to teach to anybody.

I own one account, mine, this one. I would love to have time to enjoy this kind of childish behavior, but I don't. This
kid is naive, sure, like many others here, but why this falls on me is beyond my reasoning (by the way PMP I don't
sell my system no matter how much money you promise to give me. I hope is clear is not for sale).
This thing that started after your post is not your fault. There is a lot of envy here, because so many claims they
"own" the game but very few get a real living out of it. I suggest a nice Pizza shop. As an Italian, I will enjoy be a
customer of yours, even considering that Italian pizza is way better than what you can have here.

Now, as always, this kind of events leave a bad taste in my mouth, and I need to take some time off from this
forum. I am traveling so was partially already planned to be less present, and this was the final straw. You all
have enough from me to keep you working if this pleases you, or forget me if so you all desire, I do not care.
I will be back reading in a while, so is not a farewell but just a much needed break. I wish to all of you success in
your search.

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180 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 14, 2020, 09:29:10 PM »

I can't believe I have to say that again. Mr.Perfect you should know better, because you were wrong years and
now. The system is not for sale, now or never.
You are one of the guys that sells something, not me. If there is a scammer here, fingmd a mirror and you will
see one.

About this two guys, what they have to do with me? None of them send me private messages of some sort. If
they do, they wil have the same answer, as I keep repeating for years. Years my friend.
Now I have a plane to catch, if you excuse me

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181 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 12, 2020, 01:59:05 PM »

No problem El Hungaro, I only think you guys shouldn't chase my Bertrand, is a waste of time, that's all.
A divisor is a good strategy, like progression, but need to be used the right way.
If you use divisors in a bad way, you will never end your game, if you build the wrong progression, you will
destroy your bankroll.

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182 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 12, 2020, 03:16:08 AM »

To go where ElHungaro?
If you are trying to get my system, you are far away and you are wasting time, for so many reasons.
First thing of all, I don't play the way you think I play. The basic part of 11 spins is correct in a nutshell, but is not
even close to the way I play it. If you think I play low, then ds, then dz, and so on and so forth, is not it. I don't say is
not a good start, but you should thnk to improve it, because 15 games out of 100 going to recovery are too many.
When I write to be original, to think outside the box, I intend exactly that. And still I keep working on it. I am trying
to bring the average needed 1:71.

Second, the system and the recovery are two different things. Sometimes my recovery (in a very rare
occasions), starts when my ratio is 0:170, and my debt is around 30 pieces. My rules of play are rigid but my
system has a lot of adaptability. I know seems contradictory.
I made a flow chart. What I will do if this happens? I got stages, and sometimes I move one up in that diagram,
sometimes one down, depends what happens in the game. At every step of the game I know where I am, and
where to go. The game is in a cage, can ends in a profit of 1 unit or few more, but ther is no way it can bust.
My progression has 3 steps. Most of my games I don't need to raise from a single unit. Sometimes I go to double
that unit, and once in a season I go triple. That it. I never put more than 3x.
Sometimes the game can be long, usually I can complete 50 to 70 games a day. More than 50% of my games
ends at the first spin (ring a bell?).

So, to get my system, you need to have an enlightment. I am too dumb to think mathematically, so I couldn't
develop my game from that. I had an intuition, something apparently absurd that, lucky me, did work, and from
that I kept improving. On this respect, seems you are at square 1.

Is different if my suggestions and hints helped you improve your game, develop your system. Seems many
people here have been able to create something effective on their own, and this was my original idea: promote
and stimulate thinking (I was tired to hear people saying couldn't be possible).

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183 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 11, 2020, 12:37:23 AM »

I have to constantly calculate. After a while is easy, because you use roughly the same numbers and same
calculation all the time. I make shortcuts in my mind, and that's all.

I had problems in a couple of casinos when I was writing down in paper, so I had to learn how to memorize
and calculate everything fast. As I said, seems a big thing but is not.

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184 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 10, 2020, 11:30:11 PM »

Jazco probably is a fault on my said.

Number 29 was just an example.
I can tell you why I decide to go with the last one. Every time I walk on a casino, I wish mot to waste time. So, I
pick the last that the wheel show me, and keep using the last outcome just as a matter of habit. I don't have to
think, I don't have to remember. I play my target in a certain way so to cover many numbers.
For example last nb. Is 5, I play 1-18. 23 comes out I play 13-24. 1 comes out I play 1-6.
(This is not exactly the way I play, like the smartest amongst you already know.)

Give me confidence this way of play for an additional reason, completely illogical still comforting: I always think
there is a cold number, or section, or ds that is getting colder. I have the impression I can avoid to get stuck
there moving my bets all the time, as a way to shorter the game.

Hope I made myself clear enough.

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185 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 10, 2020, 09:48:14 PM »

Sure you may. And, by the way, I will be back travelling next week, till April, so if you have questions now is the
time. I am not sure I can say something new about this topic though.
Is not important. I always said selection is not a thing for me. It is just a way to avoid doubts and waste of time
while I am playing. I could follow my birthday (29) and winning even if number 29 go sleeping for ages.

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186 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 07, 2020, 08:05:36 PM »

Well, this change is not very recent. It is almost a year now.

I made this change for one simple reason: I wished to raise my unit value and, with a target of 50$ chips would
have been unacceptable for me travel with 50 thousands dollar cash.
Yes, my win ratio lowered a little. I am happy if I can get 100 units a day, but usually I get 80. Mostly depend how
crowded are tables.

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187 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 07, 2020, 07:10:09 PM »

On average, in 100 games (not spins) I have 15 games not closed in the first 11 spins.
But, as you know, is the recovery that makes the difference, and that is a secret that I will never reveal.

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188 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 07, 2020, 03:57:23 PM »

Jerome you nailed it (but was easy).

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189 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 07, 2020, 01:49:23 AM »

Back in the days the maximum bankroll needed was in that order. That number (1400u) was the fully
development of my recovery, if the hit ratio could reach something like 1:1140. Did not happen in years. The worst I
had in my personal history was around 1:540 (I cannot be 100% accurate because I don't write down my session
and do all my math while playing) that brought me to an astonishing-498 units. To compare the second worst
was -311.
Once I was sure what I could expect from a game, I redesigned my system for a better profit with a slightly more
aggressive approach. The idea, the concept, is exactly the same, but the design of the system is different. Now, I
need a hit in the first 11 spins to end the game (for a total of 69 numbers played) and the ratio I am looking to
achieve is 1:69 instead of 1:60. This allows me to short the game, clearly, and to reduce even more the bankroll,
that is now an hypothetical 179 units (but I bring with me double this amount, as I always suggested).
I did what Fyodor is doing now. I started with a basic unit value and, keeping the winning, I raised the value till
my target has been reached. I had a very tight schedule (4/5 days a week, 8 to 12 hrs a day). It worked.
That is my suggestion:design a very cheap system, very unexpensive (I know, I did the opposite, shame on me,
but I was lucky that the system worked way better than expected) and if you need room for your bankroll to grow,
it's easier.

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190 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 06, 2020, 11:53:31 PM »

I work with a "statistic expectation" if this make any sense. I try to capitalize from payouts without assming I do
not win enough if I win. Even a EC win is better than another lost spin. If I ask for a reasonable result (1 hit in 60
number played) I will try to give the wheel all the time it needs to get adjusted to that.
If I try to force it (I wanna gey back to positive in 3 hits) I need to be too aggressive and the game can spiral
out of control. My progression is so soft that is not even a real progression. Sometimes I need 10 hits to gain just
one unit, in over two hours of continuous play. Is not common but happens. If the game is at 1:210 I can
reasonably think is getting back, but I cannot be sure. It can go 1:320 and more, so all I have to do is giving the
game the chance to get back to normal betting a little more numbers, and be ok with a slow walk back home
to +1, that is my minimum target for each game.
At the end of the day I can have 80 to 100 units in my pocket. It is enough.

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191 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 06, 2020, 05:14:47 PM »

I did nothing. I don't deserve your gratitude. Congratulations on your achievement

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192 Roulette Systems / Re: Reverse Talos Parachute

« on: January 06, 2020, 01:42:19 AM »

Third, you need to find a way to keep the bet low when you are not hitting. The idea is not trash, the way you
developed it is. You need to think in a different way, don't be so mechanical.
Your game needs to adapt.
A little metaphor for you.
In an army you have different specialized troops, to each his own task. You will never use cavalry against tank,
for example, but you know tanks will not win the war because your opponent need to conquer positions, not
trample them. So your cavalry waits when will be time to be useful.

In Roulette, time is on your side, while bank is on casino side. The only way Casino can win is that you get rid of
your money too soon, before your numbers, your variance start riding with you. So many times you have seen
people playing on a number for an hour, then they had to leave because they had no funds to play. In few
spins, or even the very next one, their number is out. Now you have two options: screams "it is rigged" or
consider that there is a math we don't know about that played against the bettor.

The equation is very simple. Time is on your side if you play smart.

Suggestion, implement a system that ask for very few units, like 100. You will find yourself a little short in some
games, but double that bank is an easy process. So different if your bankroll must be 1500 to start. When you
need to double that, and bring all that cash with you at the casino... good luck.

Don't be rigid. Adapt. Follow the game, don't try to impose your will (you will fail). VB player understand that.
They look for conditions, they study their opponent. They don't fight with every wheel, in every condition. They
set their own rules and when they think they have an advantage they go to war.

My vision is different, but the understanding of the game is exactly the same.

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193 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Real Money Re-Loaded

« on: January 04, 2020, 05:47:19 PM »

There is a way to flat bet without flat betting

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194 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Worst Sequences

« on: December 28, 2019, 06:17:32 PM »

Stratege, I really appreciated your post that shows deep thinkink, sharp mind, wisdom and knowledge. I think
you are right in so many points and posts like yours are the real treasure in a forum like this one.
If I can add something to it, would that be just a specification, about what you think I implied talking about
players.
So many here, starting with Kav, expressed the consideration that, even with a winning system, a player can
lose. I agree with this.
Once you achieve a good or perfect system, you can think you are where you meant to be, and from that
point on everything will be downslide towards Scrooge treasure.
It is not. Casinos are planned to make you a loser. Strong of your system, your HG, you start spending money
you do not have sure you will have them shortly, for example.
Or, after 3 hours at a table with a 20$ profit, you use your comp money to play a slot that gives you a jackpot
at the third spin, giving you 300 fresh unsweated dollars. That is a bit of poison in your system, in your mind.
Why you have to work hard for crumbles when you can have a full buffet with some luck?

Ancient philosophy says that the target is inside the archer. It is true. When you have a good system you keep
looking for a better one? How realistic are your expectations? How much dedication you put in the job? Looking
at a spinning ball will be your work. Are you aure is what you want? Are you sure you can handle without
distractions?
So, to summarize, i think you need knowledge, dedication, brilliant ideas to get your HG, bilut then you need to
master the art of yourself to make it work.

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195 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Real Test Of A Roulette Man
« on: December 26, 2019, 10:25:45 PM »

There is no reason why the second wheel will offer different results than the first. I can swing down without
changing tables as well. I mean, the game is the same, the wheel is the same, probability for each number are
the same. Our mind thinks there is a history somehow relevant in spins (fallacy?) But I know there is not. Yes, I
prefer to stay in the same table, but I don't mind to change. Sometimes I have to pee so badly I have to go, and
sometimes on my way back I found my targets on the board, one after another. I don't mind and I keep playing,
like nothing has happen, and I invariably finish my session with a win.
Sometimes when I am out and back I found that I have saved a good hour of spins. I am happy for that. A long
game had been reduced to a middle one. Good. Sometimes I place my bet in the wrong spot, and the right spot
have won. Nothing bad, just a little longet game. Some other time is the opposite.

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196 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 24, 2019, 06:56:06 PM »

Sorry for bothering you again repeating this. I do just because I think can be beneficial for you all.
The problem is not how to recover from a 1:280 hit ratio (that can happen more than not). The real question is:
what is your balance when this happens?
If after a session from hell you are 300 in negative, bye bye you are out. If after a session from hell you are 78
down, the game is still on.
Get what I mean?

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197 Roulette Systems / Re: A bird's-eye view to Roulette Systems and how to quantify some
characteristics ?
« on: December 24, 2019, 02:22:09 PM »

Sorry newbierouletteplayer if my answer offended you, wasn't my intention at all.

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198 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 24, 2019, 02:20:27 PM »

What I mean Third is that I have no clue what number will come out. All I know is that the numbers I played
were the wrong ones that why I found myself in negative balance. I also know that Sooner or Later,
independently from my choice of numbers, I will hit something. If I pick the right ones sooner, otherwise later. I
have no way to know which will be. All I know is that I have to endure till it happens.
In this way I mean selection is irrelevant. If I have a way to know what will be out would be great, unfortunately
is not my case. I am a CPA of roulette, checking my bankroll and not the outcomes. Lacking of predictions
ability, it is all I can do. Sure I have to play numbers, and sure sometimes I pick the right ones and sometimes
not. I am not arguing that. Seems some guys here see the finger and not the moon.

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199 Roulette Systems / Re: A bird's-eye view to Roulette Systems and how to quantify some
characteristics ?
« on: December 24, 2019, 04:27:18 AM »

The naive question matches perfectly your username.

What you are asking is the dream of 98% of people here. They will be happy to have a system that grant them
a 1% a day of profit, and they are right because that 1% will be huge.

Reality of play is that you lose 3% of the money you put on the table at every spin. That is what allow Casinos to
pay for buffets, hotels, payrolls, and all the gimmicks they give.
A good player limits his lost with discipline and strategies, channeling his habits in a non destructive
addiction. Few of them (very very few, I grant you) can get a living out of it. Those few will never tell you how to
win (why should they?). Some, in the category of the good players, will try to capitalize from their knowledge
and experience teaching others or writing manuals (both of some limited usefulness), and the worst amongst
them will scam you selling dreams and snake oil.

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200 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Real Test Of A Roulette Man
« on: December 24, 2019, 04:13:19 AM »

The only math I keep in my mind is my balance, that tells me exactly what to play and for how much. If the
game is the same, why changing table would have a different impact than dealer, time between spins,
humidity in the air or whatever? You are playing the game, not the field.

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201 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 24, 2019, 04:07:53 AM »

The balance/imbalance in a table is something that is relate to huge numbers. A lot of spins in a lot of time. For
the numbers of spins a players witness, those numbers are irrelevant. I rely on what I play. My chance to get a
hit every 37 numbers played stays the same no matter what table I play. If I play number 3 on two table, to do
an example, chance is exactly 2.7% in both, even if in the first table number 3 is the coldest number and in the
other is the hottest.
I don't care what the outcomes is because I know is misleading.

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202 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 20, 2019, 02:04:08 AM »

My original system, the one I was playing when I started posting on this forum, was developed till SU bets. In
years, I have never encountered sessions so long to go there, so I redesigned the system to make it a little
more aggressive, with a better profit per spins ration.
The system before that, that was a flat bet one, was reaching SU almost every 200/300 sessions. So nothing
wrong on planning to play Plein Numbers.
Important for me was that I never actually hope for a single number to close my game.

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203 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 18, 2019, 11:41:13 PM »

I use a target to avoid the choice. You can switch at every spin, it will not change the overall result. I can move
to another table and keep playing my progression like before.
Pick a number, or a selection, and if your system works it will works. If the previous outcome were of any help
to the players, do you think they will put them on a board?

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204 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 18, 2019, 12:04:19 AM »

I don't play two system at the same time.

Don't focus too much on My System. Develop your own. I keep say the same things over and over again. Wheel
has a weakness to be exploited. You have weapons to counterattack the infallibility of math (because Roulette
is not a mathematical game, but a probability game. The game has a house edge that grants them a profit
over ten players playing all the numbers in the felt in the same time. There is no need for them to pick a
number, they just need to pay 35 times a winning bet over 37 or 38 numbers).
You have to play the long run. You have to rely on thousands of spins, not hoping to find a magic selection
that grant you a winning in few spins (it won't happen). Wanna be a roulette pro, see it like a career. It is my job,
and I spend 50 hrs a week playing (well, not every week, but you get the idea).
In your history of play, your numbers will be hit 1 out of every 40 numbers played, grossly. If you play a system
that start with an EC, so you are playing 18 numbers, and strike 10 times in a row, be damn sure you will face a
long session to balance that.
Works the other way around too. If I play 400 numbers before getting a hit, I will start receiving good spin in
bundles so to let my average goes in balance. Secret is how handle variance. Secret is how to don't go deep in
your trench and survive till that happen.
You need to keep your bet at the very minimum. And in the same time keep the number you play at the
maximum possible. You start with EC and then go to the DZ, and then to DS for three spins allows you to play a
total of 5 units and 48 numbers. If you hit anytime in those 5 spins you are a winner. It is a good strategy. Is not
mine, it is just an example.
If you play EC, then 2 units on EC, then 2 units on DZ, you played 5 units as before, but for three spins and
covering a total of 48 numbers. Seems the same as before, but is not. It is up to you understand (decide) if is
better to spin three times with better coverage or 5 times with lower coverage.
And this attains to the system as itself, not the recovery. Recovery is all a different story. Recovery cannot be a
different system with more aggressive approach (so to get back money you already lost) because if this is the
case is better for you to play the recovery system from the beginning (my opinion).
Recovery system must rely on a situation that occurred because of the system you played so far. Repetition?
Delay? Pattern? Mystical alignment of planets? Your pick. It is a situation that did not existed before you started
your session. Did I made myself clear?

Roulette is a very bizarre game, where the quality of the player makes all the difference in the world. In other
games you can have luck saving you. In roulette you will not have that, if not for a brief moment in life. If you
are a regular player, you need to have skill, knowledge, control.
VB player, System players and Math players are set with the right mood. They face the game with the attitude
indispensable to win: discipline. The win is in you, if any, not in the game itself. If you are distracted, if you have
no discipline, if you don't know what you are doing, if you need the release of adrenaline to enjoy the challenge,
you will lose, even with my system.
So many people here look at the forum like they could find a solution for their economical issue. They got
crazy if you don't give them the recipe for the perfect life lasting income. They want a way to win, unable to
understand that you cannot win in this game if you don't learn how to win.
That is why I don't want give you more than ideas. You have to develop your own method, your own system. A
system that fits you, your personality, your vision. I am a signpost, nothing more. I can tell you that the road
exists, but I cannot bring you there. Doing this, saying that it is possible to win, it is all a dedicated player needs
to find his own treasure.

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205 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 17, 2019, 06:27:11 PM »

There will be no difference if you switch or stay with the same selection, as long as the total numbers you play
are the same.
My reason to stick to a number is to avoid calculations, confusion or anxiety during the game. I have enough
in my mind (doing all my math in my head while playing) to waste time on selecting a bet.
If I play 300 numbers without a hit, this is my statistic advantage. I am "sure" I will have some hit soon. How to
profit from those hits, and how to endure till this "soon" will be reality, it is the core of my system.

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206 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 17, 2019, 04:55:59 PM »

My best selection is of no importance. I do have a target, that can be the last outcome or the number of the
day I am playing (today would have been 17). Or you can use the coldest number on the board, really makes
no difference.
Unless the wheel is biased or unbalanced, numbers are equally probable to hit, in a single spin, so if you have
a strong intuit you can pick your own at every spin.
No matter what you pick, you should rely on statistics, in a way. My basic system put me in one of two possible
situations: I won or, I am in a statistical advantage. My recovery part tries to take advantage of that situation.

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207 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 17, 2019, 02:54:42 PM »

I am not sure I fully understand your question.

I never abandon a game. I leave a table when I am tired of playing, or when I have to eat or use the toilet.

The basic game (system) means, for me, a session where the first hit ends the game. When this will not be
possible, because the payout is lover than my balance, I make the recovery kick in, and that means I need two or
more hit to close the session.
I can have a game that last hours, but is very uncommon. And I can have a session easy, with so many games
closed in very few spins, but that's uncommon too. Usually I have short and long games, mixed up nicely...

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208 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 17, 2019, 02:40:52 AM »

Jazco, I am very happy for you.

You really do not need to thank me. You did all the hard work yourself.

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209 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 09, 2019, 02:53:09 AM »

I have been very busy last few months.

Happy to see that people are still working towards their HG.

I always thought that outcomes are overrated. I did work with statistic, more than probability, because I am too
dumb to go deep into math. I know that more spins I can witness, more I endure, more the situation I seek will
show up.
Let say that I wait for a red number. If I have two spins limit to get that or I lose, I will surely lose in the long run. If
my system can endure 10 spins, I can win many times but sometimes I will lose. If my system can endure 100
spins, I am sure I will see a red in those limits, aking the system a winner.
Now, how can I build a system that last 100 spins on a payout of 1 to 1 and be a winner?
I always suggest to fix a target, know when that target will likely hit, double the negative odds (or variance) and
manage an acceptable bankroll to overcome that.
It is very easy to write, but hard to configure such a method, you understand. If you do not waste time tailoring
your system from a sequence you found at Wiesbaden on October 1997, you will have more chances, that is what
I say.

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210 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 08, 2019, 02:30:14 AM »

It is easy to win when variance is at your favor, so there is no need to take care of those games.
If your bets are low, and the progression manageable, a small negative balance will be easily overcome.
What kills every system is the session from hell, in which no matter what you play the only number uncovered
will come out. You have to focus only on that. A system that can beat such terrible occurance is a system that's
adapt to it, that does not force the game, that progress slowly to its goal accepting baby steps to cut out some
debt. Expands when the game seems to be favorable and contracts when hells get loose.
If you are able to keep numbers small, it is not important if you gain few units at a time, playing like 4 or 5
street at once. Rely on a single magic number, or few of them, on the other side, allows you to endure so many
spins without raising your bets and still have a nice profit when you hit. Jumping from the two options are one
of the keys, in my opinion, to stop forcing the game towards your personal prejudice and beat the game at its
own rule.

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211 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The Physics Of Statistics Is Not The Only Way
« on: December 07, 2019, 04:28:14 PM »

Statistics are like a bikini: shows you a lot of skin but hides what you want to see.

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212 Gambling Philosophy / Re: what will past spin tells?

« on: August 01, 2019, 12:24:38 PM »

I remember there is a mathematical formula that uses the last spins to predict the next hit, or so. One guy
taught me that some years ago, saying it was accurate enough to give a hit in few spins, with a 93% accuracy
in 35 spins. With a single number doesn't seems that bad.

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213 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: July 19, 2019, 02:11:18 AM »

I keep following this forum, not everyday but kinda regularly, so I can reply when I think can be helful.
First of all, I do not understand where do you get your insight, Jesper. I don't use skype, I don't invite people to
have private comunications with me (quite the contrary, because my idea is to help everybody, not just some of
them).
Second, about the weakness, I already said that, in a non linear way.
Third, Della Moglie and others are been well studied by me, but I do not use their results and conclusions. To be
exact, they showed me which way not to pursue.
Fourth, about the name. I remember a moment in this forum where everybody seemed obsessed by the use of
the word HG, or Holy Grail. We couldn't use that term but to say that does not exist. Everything else was forbidden.
They were so pissed by the word that I decided to call my system Bertrand in a post. More a joke than anything
else, a name made up that very minute. In some way that stuck and now seems to be the way to address it. Not
a fancy explanation, but it is what it is.

I want to add a little consideration about progressions. I think can be important for some.
When you add one unit to your bet, it's value is different despite the fact that is always just an added unit. If you
go from 1 to 2, you double your bet. From 2 to 3 you add 50% of the bet. If you go from 50 to 51 you add 2% of your
value. I know that is self evident, but probably is not completely grasp by everybody.

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214 Casino Lounge / Re: winning system anyone?

« on: July 04, 2019, 01:29:29 AM »

Love the humor.

When I switched to 1:66 I noticed that profit was lower without making sessions shorter or safer. So, I worked in
the other direction. I tried to get more money out of my efforts, without changing the core of the system. But
yes, I still work on it, in a way or another. Does not matter how profitable is your endeavor you will try to improve
it.
My basic system was asking for hypotetical 1200+ units. How could I bring 30000 $ with me at the casino?
12000 is a big enough sum, I tell you (So you know, I don't carry all that cash in my pocket when I play).
In five years will be different, I know. But all those differences will come with efforts, sweat, calculations and
hard work.

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215 Casino Lounge / Re: winning system anyone?

« on: July 03, 2019, 10:50:01 AM »

Third, you and few others are the reason why I am here, why I started posting years ago. I was tired of
sellers, scammers and Naysayers. I wished everybody could try to reach the impossible, and some believed
that and succeeded. This is my joy, my way to give back.
[/size] I provide advices, directions or just encouragement to find your own way.
[/size] There are always new players searching for their road, and I am here for them.
[/size]
[/size]Leowls, my system is not in the numbers I play, but in the way I manage the recovery. You can sure get
the first spins, and win most of the time, but how to recover when it does not happen, that is all in my mind.
I do my math in my mind, all of it, and because I don't have a bet selection, nobody can get it. I travel a lot,
so I visit the same casino 2/3 times a year, no more. I am sure they know me, but there is nothng they can do
now to stop me. I am more concerned about thieves and gold diggers, but I have my countermeasures for
them too.
[/size] I have grown ambitious recently, and I set a goal. Look forward to reach it.

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216 Casino Lounge / Re: winning system anyone?

« on: July 03, 2019, 01:54:28 AM »

I usually play around3/4 days a week, ten to twelve hours (with frequent stops). Most of games ends in first spins,
getting me from 1 to 3 pieces profit. One out of ten games goes to spin 5 (what I call the recovery mode). Usually
that last less than 40 spins.
I play 200/250 games a day, and my profit is 160 to 200 units.
In the last 4 months I played roughly 10000 games, probably 22/23 thousand spins. Let's say 400 spins a day,
2000/2400 spins a week... yeah seems about right. When I changed I started with airball, 5$ units. Then I moved
to 10 and after to 25$. Moved to table because it is to much for some airball machines. If can halp, I did notice
that in the real wheel games are a little shorter, but this can be a false perception.

I think is tested enough. And consider that is not completely new. I made it a little more aggressive because for
years I never used the full progression, not even close, so I tried to get more advantage on short games. The only
down side is that sometimes I play for an hour just to get 1 unit. There was a point when I was just chasing safety,
now I chase money...

I keep my playing costant over years. I consider it a job, and act accordingly. I will retire at 57/58, I presume. That
will bring me to play occasionaly after that (I am 50 now). Hope this clarifies it to you.

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217 Casino Lounge / Re: winning system anyone?

« on: July 02, 2019, 02:38:26 PM »

I show you a couple of example, so you can get ideas out of it, Third.
Yesterday I had a very long game, exactly 114 spins. My worst moment was around spin 86/87, when I had an
outstanding balance of -172. They way I designed my sistem now will allow me to reach 500 units as max
exposure, but was the first time that crossed 100 pieces. (To be honest, the new version is just a few months old,
so statistically is still a new land to discover). I keep always three times more bank that the max exposure
faced (so from now on is 550).
The game ended with a positive 12 pieces, for almost two hours of play. Doesn't seems much, but at the end of
the night my total win was 126 pieces.

Second thing. I faced a problem with a table. They closed down in my face. I was the only player, with 25$
chips. They gave me a 2 spins warning and they closed. They thought that could have been an hard hit on me.
I was a little over -30, and they were smiling...
I moved to the next table, like nothing has happen. I continued my game and I end the game in 12 spins,
gaining 9 units. The first table was still counting chips for closing. I knew they were looking at me. I walked there,
I left a chip as tip to the dealer, smiling.

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218 Casino Lounge / Re: Calling RouletteMan

« on: June 25, 2019, 07:15:21 PM »

My way of find solutions is starting with questions. I don't know a better method.
I think we do not have many ideas here, just a bunch of rocks thrown in a pond. Or in someone else faces for the
fun of it.
My point was that what you really need is to find a way to win 1 unit. If you have that you have everything you
need.

Another point about MrP. I do not want to sound offensive, it is not my purpose. I always thought that if you have
a winning system, or a way to win, you keep to yourself. If you try to sell it, you are not a winner. Now you are
promoting your "teaching" asking people to endorse and promotes you. Nothing sounds more loser to me than
that. If you get money from a casino you spend your time grabbing cash there. At least, that is what I do.
I have conversation with people, mail, and so on and so forth. They ask directions. I will give them general
indications to help them moving, find their own way. If they succeed they owns me nothing. If they fail, no one to
blame. I ask no money, I give nothing but nice and polite talking.

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219 Casino Lounge / Re: Calling RouletteMan

« on: June 25, 2019, 05:09:20 PM »

Juice, your post is very interesting, and should start a discussion about what to look for playing this game.
For me, I tried to reach a profit of one unit with the smallest possible balance. My reasoning was if I can win 1
unit, even if takes me 2 hours of playing, but the max exposure end up to be 20 units (just putting numbers
there, to show my idea), then nothing will stop me to have a 100$ unit value. Or 500$. So let's gain 4 units a day.
I think will be enough for an indestructible system that ask for 20 units, don't you think?

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220 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: June 24, 2019, 04:14:39 PM »

I am very happy for you. Congratulations

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221 Roulette Systems / Re: System Question

« on: May 16, 2019, 04:54:04 PM »

My perception is that any session that you play is a match of a championship. This championship begins when
tou walk in the first time, and ends with your death. For the vast majority of people, they end up second while
the wheels wins the championship, rise the award, and get a lot of your money.
The game, the single session (for me is a day of playing) can be won or lost, what that matters is who wins the
championship. How the wheel wins? It wins doing one thing, and just one, perfectly. How a player can win a
single session? By luck, by strategy or system. How can he win a championship? That the whole point of a
forum like this one.
As I wrote, wheel does just one thing, Perfectly. Players tends to do many things, and a s***ton of mistakes. So,
first of all, before approaching any system or strategy, a player must correct his mistakes (gambling, first and
foremost, then adeguate bankroll, right expectations, discipline, and so on and so forth). In this view, the
discrimination between winning or losing kinda fades out. Sometimes you learn more losing than winning, if
you get the lesson (you are playing a championship).
But, you say, this is a game with negatives expectations. Casinos will win, no matter what. Well, even lottery or
scratch and win are on dealers favor, and more heavily than the roulette. Still, some manage to became
millionaires scratching a piece of paper. Can we win in a game that has a fixed payout, and never as
enormous as a lottery? We can't relay on luck (a lottery is a single event, while a spin in roulette is a hundreds
time events a day). So we have to go back to the metaphor of the match.

We can decide the size of our team, th quality of it, and when to play. And most important we decide how we
play. How more you study the exact mechanisms your opponents use, the better are your chance to defeat it.
You evoke chaos theory, and I suggest you to point to the beauty of math. The harmonies that lies in bets,
progressions, numbers. The balance, the statistics. You watch the game, without prejudice, without trying to
find a pattern or an order inside it. You calm down. You are the observator. And at a certain point you will see.
If you do not try to bend the game on your favor, it will come to you, like a dog asking to be pet.

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222 Roulette Systems / Re: The Talos EC Progression Ladder

« on: May 12, 2019, 02:55:26 AM »

Sorry, I did not meant to mislead you, but probably I did. Allow me to clarify.
First of all, I am not talking about the system or progression I use. I try to be of some help with your ideas, when
I think are valuable.
Second, more specific. What I meant is that we have to keep our bets low by all means. I do not talk about EC or
Dozen or else. I talk about concepts. In order to keep a progression at , we need to hit. And if we wish to hit
frequently, we shouldn't rely on few numbers or sleep on a bet. We must move and adapt, using to our
advantage the variety that the game offer us. Sometimes it is better get a hit gaining back just a single unit
from our exposure than nothing.

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223 Roulette Systems / Re: The Talos EC Progression Ladder

« on: May 11, 2019, 04:11:07 PM »

The issue with your progression is that there is room for it to spiral out of control.
As it did. The riddle to solve if you do not want to use a flat bet is exactly that. What helped me was considering
an option to bet two opposite Ec. Was like "if I bet Black and Red, one of the two will hit" . I know it is absurd, pure
nonsense, but helped me to find a way to always cut the exposition.

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224 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: May 06, 2019, 10:51:37 PM »

I am sure that is the "revolutionary" idea drtalos is always talking about...

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225 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: May 05, 2019, 06:58:01 PM »

Quote from: Third on May 05, 2019, 06:46:26 PM

Quote from: MickyP on May 05, 2019, 04:21:54 PM

How do you keep your bets low low low when using a progression?

Betting one unit is part of a progression. Nobody says that a progression must go one direction(up). A person
can bet less so that the progresion goes down too.

This is a golden nugget. This is a pivotal observation, so many times neglected. You react to the game in every
direction: size of bet, layout of bets, odds. The player has the ball of the game, so to speak, even if is the Casino
that spins it...

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226 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: May 05, 2019, 02:50:41 AM »

I will try to clarify some points, although Third already corrected some infos.
I do not remember saying that I never play less the 6 numbers. If I did, it is incorrect. What I think I said is that
my system rarely goes under 6 number played. Most of the time I finish the game way before that. Sometimes
the game ask me to pkay few numbers, and the result of it is that rarely that is the moment when the game
ends, like the example I posted. After that, the number increases as the necessary hits to close the session. At
the end, usually, I still waiting for a single hit to close the game, but it will be no more a split or a SU, but a wider
coverage, with more chances to hit.
It is true that I am never too far from ending a game. Sometimes I need 1 hit, often 2 or 3, and more rarely 4 or
more.

I don't overlap bets. I think it is a waste of value.

I never said that bet selection is useless. What I said is that my Bertrand works with any selection, even with
random picks if you are so inclined. The reason why I do not have a preferred selection is because I have never
found a selection that works better than others. If you have one, good for you! And the reason why I do not go
random is because I cannot waste time on thinking what to bet, I have a rule, I follow that, mechanically. I could
decide that from now on my system pivots around the day I play, so today, 4th, I play considering 4 my basic
number, and tomorrow will be five. It will work just the same, with the side effect that my emotivity will be kept
at bay because I will not chase intuition, sensations, feeling, advices, luck, hot, cold, and so on and so forth.

I am not here often, but when I see that I can be of any use, I keep writing.
And I am delighted to see people getting results and ideas from my words. Nothing can make me more proud
of you guys.

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227 Casino Lounge / Re: Playing with Quotes and Concepts

« on: April 18, 2019, 09:13:34 PM »

Vitorwally, I will try to answer your question the best I can, despite the fact I am not sure what the exact
information you are trying to get.

I think a System must be mechanical, and saying so I mean that the possible outcomes of the game are already
set before starting a session. This because you should avoid mistakes, intuitions or emotional behavior while at
the table. No rooms for "if I had choose this instead of that I would have won" saving the system while losing your
money. A common mistake.
If you are in a situation where you need three hits, is in the parameters of the game what you should play.
Let's say your parameter is recover as fast as I can, you will play SU numbers or splits; if you plan to recover
slowly but steady, you will cover more numbers.

My personal opinion is you need to find the best bet for the money you put on the felt. A good coverage with no
so much units. That is the reason why I say a dozen is different that 4 streets.

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228 Casino Lounge / Re: Playing with Quotes and Concepts

« on: April 17, 2019, 07:54:48 PM »

You are 100% right, scepticus. I focus on recovery because I think every system sooner or later will get out of
control, and in that case you have 2 options: accept the loss and move on, hoping for a profit in the long run (so
many experienced players thinks that the way to win, and it is a respectable opinion for sure). Others, like me,
cannot sustain psychologically a loss, so we aim for a win at every session, or at least a even.

So a system is, for me, a way of playing that brings you to two possible outcomes: a win, so you can start over a
new game or, second, an outstanding balance with a mathematical situation that can be used as edge against
the game.
My math is statistics. What I care about is how balanced are results, so my Mike Tyson is Variance. I have all the
patience in the world to fight that. Its weakness, my strength.
It is the only way? Sure is not. If three people from this forum start to work together, they will find a better way, I
am sure. But people usually wants to fight by themselves, so not to share the treasure chest.
Human beings.

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229 Casino Lounge / Re: Playing with Quotes and Concepts

« on: April 17, 2019, 05:47:07 PM »

I will try to answer the best I can to 2 of your questions(third one needs time and attention I do not have now but I
promise I will be back to you ASAP).

I don't always talk about Bertrand. More often I write about concept (something I think would be more useful) and
you shouldn't confuse the two. My leading guide building Bertrand is not to be disclosed apart from some very
basic ideas (the "revolutionary" one is only in my mind). What left is to be intended as general reasoning about
strategies.

Your first topic is about coverage. What I mean is that despite the same payout, there are differences in playing
one dozen or four streets, or 12 SU. And other differences if played a dozen or one street for 4 spins. The most
evident is the numbers of units needed, other differences are there, and those needs to be found.

In the second topic I need to pint out that any system or strategy force you, sometimes, to part ways with your
guidelines. It is the nature of the game that ask so.vif you play EC you have to ignore the 0, for example. In the
example I used in previous post, if I need to recover from -25, and my strategy ask for the minimum amount of
units placed, I will put a SU number that, if hits, brings me a profit of 10. If my strategy ask for most coverage, I will
put 26 units on EC. if hits, my win will be 1 unit.consequences for a no hit are easy to decipher.

Scepticus, what I mean is that you don't start with math. You start with an idea. When they built the pyramids,
they did not collected thousand of tons-heavy squared rocks near the Nile and they asked "What we do now with
those?".

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230 Casino Lounge / Re: Playing with Quotes and Concepts

« on: April 17, 2019, 02:34:29 PM »

Au contraire, I did speak so many times in Philosophical terms, and I get a lot of complaints about it. I also open a
thread in gambling philosophy section, about the weapons we have against our enemy.
Because roulette is an enemy to defeat, and in order to do that you must know its weakness and flaws, likewise
its strength.
Roulette can do few things, and must do those all the time. A ball spun then fell in a pocket, and the payback
goes following certain rules that never changes. It is a fierce and powerful opponent, but cannot do only those
things.
The player, weaker by all means, can move, change strategy, bet size, can avoid the fight for a while, and then
go back at it with renewed power. Thanks to a fast run at an atm...
What I mean is that we are not beaten by math, but by our misunderstanding of the whole thing. As I said many
times, mathematically roulette is unbeatable, so we have to choose another way. I will never fight Mike Tyson in a
ring. Probably I will try with chess.
We have to decide what is more profitable: more spins or more coverage? This is a very short blanket, covers
feet but not head, or vice versa. An important question though. If I put it in another way, that helps you?
Something like "it is better to cover 35 numbers or one for 35 spins"?
There is no a right answer, there is a consequence after you choose. If you pick the first, your strategy must
develope consistently with that in mind. The same if you pick the latter. Those two strategies are completely
different.
Many times I see strategies that are not well fitted, moving from one idea to the other, and those cannot win.

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231 Casino Lounge / Re: Playing with Quotes and Concepts

« on: April 17, 2019, 12:53:15 AM »

Vitorwally, I am happy to answer because I think your work needs to be rewarded. You put yourself on the
search instead of blames or easy complaints, like so many did. You and Third (and back in the days Reyth)
took my breadcrumbs and tried to find your way to the treasure chest.
A treasure chest I did not buried. Casinos, or better the game itself, gave us the opportunity to get the chest
unlocked and used. What is there is what is there, and DrTalos or anybody can't get any pride of that.
I always said that you must solve the riddle in a philosophical way and not mathematical. If you do not
understand that play 1 number for 36 spins is different than play 1 EC for 2 spins, you have no hope.

Third, your calculations are wrong.

If I am at -25, if I play 5 splits (1 for 5 spins) my total balance at the end of the spins will be -35, so if I hit I will
win at least 1 unit.
In that sense, a bet of 6 units on double street will bring my balance to -31, and a hit will give me +5 on the
book, that can seems good, but it is conceptually wrong (if you win more than 1 unit you are wasting money).
This last concept is terribly important. I know it can be confusing.

VW, I am talking about balance. We are facing a game with negative expectation, so we need to keep our
negative numbers the lowest possible. We know that sooner or later we will hit. We need to make this hit the
most profitable we can get without breaking the bank.
Concepts first. You can cover 18 numbers with 1 unit, or 3 (using double streets) or 9 (splits) or 18. Or you can
cover 18 numbers through various spins, like a split plaied for 9 spins. What is better?
One can say, for example, that play a dozen gives you a 33% chance to hit (forget the 0 for a second, just to
get the metaphor), and if you play a second unit on another dozen that has 50 % of chance to hit if the first
choice is a wrong one. I would love to master English better to make this sound less dumb than how it does
now.
So many things to think through.

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232 Casino Lounge / Re: Playing with Quotes and Concepts

« on: April 16, 2019, 05:06:07 PM »

The challenge is always "how to keep my exposure low". The reason for this is clear, bit can be helpful point that
out again: lower the passive, easier to recover.
When we are down of 25 pieces, for example, we can recover with:
A hit with 26 units on chances, or
13 units on a dozen or column, or
6 units on a double street, or
3 units on a street, or
2 units on a split, for 5 spins, or
1 unit on a Straight, and we can go for 10 consecutives spins.

There are differences that could help us choose what is better? Maybe.

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233 Questions and Answers / Re: How do you overcome on randomness and the negative variance?
« on: February 20, 2019, 08:35:13 PM »

Third, I am so damn proud of you and your results. You made my day.

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234 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: FATHERS

« on: February 08, 2019, 02:53:43 PM »

War, hunger, drugs, inequality, violence, racism, pollution... lucky us we have Satan to blame, otherwise we have
to think we are just as*holes.

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235 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 07, 2019, 06:33:49 PM »

I really have to answer to your Bondesque story of mid air balls and such? Do you really think someone believe
that, with all the nonsense and nonsequitur?
I play 10$ units, that allow me to raise the bet as the progression goes. If I start at 100 I will go over limits.
And more, I am an emotional guy, so having thousands of dollar in a ball spin is nothing I like to experience. I
tried and didn't work.
Tables are too slow for me. When busy can go like 5 spins an hour. The machine goes 50 an hour. Get the
mood?

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion and to express freely (you said yourself) but me. I cannot have this
prerogative because of some reason. Or because I am not acting like how you think I should act (reread the
last sentence slowly out loud to understand what it means, and how dumb it makes you look).
Bro, this is a public forum. Everyone says what he/she wants and read or act how he/she wants. Is nobody's
duty bring light to the lost people or assume is a beacon of wisdom and knowledge.
Your critic, and almost all of them, is for me to prove I am not a liar. To do that I have to reveal my system or
myself. Won't happen. I tried a third way, meeting someone to show him that it works. My choice was Reyth and
MickyP.
Some in this forum planned to have an hold on me in that occasion. Other warned me about the danger of
the situation. And I think Reyth decided to disappear to free me from that, and to save me for possible negative
outcomes.
Do I have proofs of this? No, but ot is a plausible scenario.

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236 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 07, 2019, 04:13:30 PM »

You are addressing me the same way you did with MrJ or MickyP. Because you think you are better or smarter
of others you put yourself in the high chair and judge, and give lessons.
Please, find a girl. You desperately need it.

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237 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 07, 2019, 03:30:46 PM »

What's my purpose then? You have a blog to promote (as you are doing) and to get money from it, but me?
What so I gain saying I win at roulette? No one knows who I am, and no one have been asked for money. So
what?
I have to prove you what? And why? To get credibility? And to do what with that credibility? People will read
my posts twice? How dumb are you?
Is like when someone at the casino say "last week I won 5000 at the slots". All presents says congratulations,
most of them will not believe it, or think he over exaggerated his claim, but nobody will ask him to provide a
proof of his claim. Maybe you could.
You can go in a church and ask certain proofs of God existence. That is more important than a claim in a
forum. You can quote Nietzsche and Voltaire, and see what happens.
I don't care about your or everybody's opinion. If we talk about roulette I am all for it, if we go back to this
waste of time I gently deny.

If you are not interested, why are you here? Wanna protect people from reading?

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238 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 07, 2019, 02:57:09 PM »

As always you all are entirely missing the point.

This place is for someone looking for ideas and knowledge about roulette. The personality or ethic of people
contributing to this is not important.
Is Reyth Third? Who cares
Is MickyP a Nazi? Who cares
Is MrJ any close to Bruce Willis? Who cares
Is drtalos a doctor? Really?
The important thing is Can I learn something? Can I have ideas or way never tested?

In the age of photoshop, have a picture of a bank account for millions or a Ferrari car under a butt is easy. Wil
you fall for that? And what more brings to you? How closer you get to be a winner by that?
I got thousands of dollar offered to reveal my system, and they all get the same answer. No. In four years here
I provided ideas and thought that, by the way, is the main (only) purpose of this forum. No adoration, no
applause. I am not a teenager eager for this nonsense.

Critic? A critic needs to have something to critic, and you have none. My rants, probably, and my bad English,
but my Bertrand? You don't know it. And if it doesn't exist what are you criticizing?

I don't remember who said tell the truths and nobody will believe it. Well, seems it was right. I told you my
experience. If you can get something out of it, you are welcome. If you can't you waste nothing but some little
bit of time, learning meanwhile.

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239 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 07, 2019, 01:21:59 PM »

And, in a heartbeat, all the reasons why I stopped posting in this forum are back...

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240 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 06, 2019, 08:06:52 PM »

I don't trust them, like I don't trust slot machines or online casinos. I never tried that so mine is a prejudiced
opinion.

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241 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 06, 2019, 07:35:24 PM »

I thought a lot about that. I came to the conclusion that someone tried to capitalized from my absence here and
managed to build a story in order to sell something. In simpler words, a scam.
I think airball are fair. My experience in the last 5 years kinda proves it. My decision to stick to them is the speed.
Table is damn too slow.

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242 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 06, 2019, 05:54:28 PM »

If you think that there is a better selection and a worse selection you are postulating that the wheel is mot a
random generator. This is absurd unless you are looking for physical alterations.
In a fair situation selection can't be a factor. If my machine stops working for whatever reason, I move to
another one and begin like anything has happen, and it works exactly like before. I can be at the beginning of a
game or in the middle of it.

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243 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 06, 2019, 03:49:45 PM »

No overlapping bets. As I said many times (how many times I said "as I said many times"?) my system is not
that statical. It changes during the game. Extreme adaptability to the conditions of the game I am facing. This
ability to change is the real core of Bertrand, the revolutionary idea.
If you try to impose your will to the wheel you lose. Is the same that ap players do: they look for a mechanical
unbalance and go with it, trying to get the most out of how the wheel is. I use a mathematical (statistical)
unbalance, trying to get the most out of what the wheel does.
When the game is kinda balanced, I win with the system. When the game becames unbalanced I use it at my
favor, with the recovery.

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244 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 06, 2019, 03:26:54 PM »

The main system is fast and brings money, while the recovery system is slow and needs to be mathematically
activated by a condition that will occur when the system will not reach his target.

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245 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 06, 2019, 02:57:42 AM »

Means that if you play black four times you played a total of 72 numbers. (18 numbers x 4 = 72).

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246 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 05, 2019, 10:18:12 PM »

My total hypotetical bankroll is way more higher, but I never reached that level, not even close.
I usually consider 300 my needed bankroll, and I bring with myself three times that amount. 95% of time I don't
need to put more money than those 300, but sometimes happens and I am ready for it.

I don't know how they play. How I could? They keep for themselves their strategy, and I think it is a very smart
move.
My reasoning is that a unbiased wheel is a random number generator so I should hit no matter my selection,
considering the variance as I already pointed out.

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247 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 05, 2019, 08:48:13 PM »

As I said so many times, I rely on the idea I get at least one hit every 60 numbers played, on average. That means
that if through the course of 20 spins I played 300 numbers, and I miss all, I will need 10 hit in the next 20 spins
(considering that I am playing the same total amount of numbers. We know it is not the case).
If I hit less than that, my total negative balance will reflect the few hits I get and the total I played so far.
If I hit 2 numbers in 150 numbers played, for a ratio of 1 hit every 75, my negative balance will be of few units. If I
hit 2 numbers in 300 numbers played, (1/150) my negative balance will be higher.
My target is to be able to play enough spins to reach that ratio, because statistically speaking, I should get a hit
every 38 numbers played. Variance says that more spins I will be able to assist, closer to that point I will get. 1/60
is a ratio way more easy to obtain than 1/38.
Every hit reduce my exposition, keeping the balance at bay. Sometimes I get crazy statistics, like 3 hits in 700
played numbers. In that situations my outstanding balance can be around -250/300. So I can keep playing
without getting nervous.

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248 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 05, 2019, 07:24:58 PM »

My mailbox is no longer full. I got some messages lately, and I forgot to check them.
Thanks

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249 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 04, 2019, 09:08:40 PM »

I am 100 % sure that many in thia forum can profit better than me with my idea. I found a way to use it, but
there are other ways, other perspectives. My game fit my personality, that's all.
Still, I have the merit to get that idea. I am proud of that. Really. But not proud at the point to reveal it to get a
round of applause. At the beginning people couldn't get the reason for me frequenting the forum. Now maybe
some of them did.
I am tired of seeing people saying you cannot win at this game. Tired of people turn off the light of hope for
others. If you can't doesn't mean anybody can't. And some of the people that say so also say they win
consistently. The difference is that they use ability and knowledge and experience instead of a system. But is
not a system the final result of ability, knowledge and experience?
They don't like the idea of an hg, a mechanical way to allow newbies and uneducated players getting easy
profit. Maybe they don't understand that we all drive cars we couldn't build ourselves, use technology far
beyond put comprehension, so why not a roulette method?
You see, It is easy for me to go over the point. If I could write in Italian, would have been even worst.

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250 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 04, 2019, 07:56:45 PM »

Don't you like my images? I am so fond on those...

What I wanted is to rely on something that it will certainly happen, and survive till that actually happens.
Let say for example that the longest absence for a number is 700 spins. I put a target of 1000 spins to have that
number out. I must endure 1000 spin with a bankroll manageable and a method playable. Because no
progression can survive 1000 spins, I have to find a way to keep the balance low enough to reach those numbers.
The only way is a method that can accept partial recovery through it without adding more elements in play.
If you think in a strictly mathematical term you will not see the solution. Is there, but it is just obstructed by what
you know.
If you go in the thread "how I make my systems" you will have a better idea, I think.

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251 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: The talos seesion dump analysis
« on: February 04, 2019, 07:02:18 PM »

Because, crazy k, I do not have much to add to what had been said so far.
I think a progression is dangerous if seen like an elevator that goes up and up till a magic number brings you
back to ground floor. With some profit.
For me progression is a tool that can go up and down continuously till he gets to the ground floor, like a
ladder. With some profit.
My play adapt to the wheel, not the other way around. Life is about adapting. The ability to adapt is how we
survived through hard times. Elephants now being born without tusks. How about this Lamarkian answer to
poachers?

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252 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: Migrant caravans
« on: February 04, 2019, 03:45:47 AM »

Drugs come in from port of entry and airports. Please educate yourself. A wall will be good just for the people
building it... what you say, Trump companies will have a share of it? Don't you say...

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253 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz
Kafka
« on: February 04, 2019, 03:43:36 AM »

Sorry, wrong again. I am not liberal, and I am not democat, as I am not repubblican, or else. Those silly opinions
guided by partnership and political adherence do not belongs to me.
I use my mind, all the time. Sometimes I agree with "right" positions, sometimes with "left" positions. This is
incidental, I grant you. I am not on board with legalize weed, and I would love to see regulations on weapons. I
think that rich people must pay more taxes, and I think that no protection should be granted for lazy parasites
who uses social benefits to lay on the couch all day long.
Most of all, I think we need to have a better knowledge of issue we need to fight. Air pollution, climate change,
bio diversity, non renewable energies, clean water, over population, deforestation, waste disposal are way
more important than money, because at the end of the day we cannot eat dollar bills.
Feelings? You and all Trump supporters seems unable to stay on topic when faced. You use your feelings not
your reasoning. This wonderful country has shift from capitalistic democracy to plutocracy, and you all smarty
pants can't see it.
Problems are immigrants? You can't be serious. We have 35000 people killed by guns every year, in this
country. Less than 3% from immigrants, and the astoninshing 0.2% of them from undocumented immigrants. All
mass shootings are from deranged white Americans. Not a word on that?
And what about feelings. Your President is the one acting on feelings all the time. Why are you using double
standards? Why what he can do cannot be done by anything else? Imagine if Obama did one of the
despicable thigs Trump did? Trump attacked Obama for golfing (shame on Obama). Trump attacked Obama
for the shutdown (shame on Obama) Trump attacked Obama for federal deficit (shame on Obama). Now
trump rewrote all those record and nobody says a thing.
I can believe I have to explain all of this to grown up educated people.

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254 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz
Kafka
« on: February 04, 2019, 01:33:35 AM »

Your "Champion" insulted almost 600 people in three years (talking just about the written insults, ones during
rallies are not counted). And he insulted the sitting president Obama of that time so many times that is hard to
count. But yes it is sad that I do it in a forum...
Your judgment is totally wrong. He only cares about his money and the attention he can get. He deregulated
all enviromental protection in this country. Companies are free to pollute and destroy like never before. Please
take your head out of your ...
He is destroing the future for our children and grandchildren. He has no long term plan because is enable to
think. Every member of his team says the same. He put his family members and friends in top position. He is
corrupted to the bone. He is a liar and a con man.

Many despicable men in history had huge followers, and I always wondered how someone could have given
support to Hitler, Mussolini and such. They talked about borders security, about jews stealing money and
depriving honest german of their rightful well being, and they shook the ghost of nationalism to get ignorant
and short minded people on their side.
Now I know. Now I see how people that cannot pay regularly their bill support a billionaire who gives tax cuts
to The wealthiest people in the country, cutting benefits for elderly, sick or disadvantaged men and women.
Pro life is a topic, I agree. This doesn't means we need to have this presidency supported. Vice president says
he speaks with angels, while we have no budget for education, or to have better infrastructures. Come on man,
be back in this world. Use your head. Is really Trump a correct answer? Half of his cabinet is indicted, the rest
will come later.
His personal lawyer for years is one step out from jail. Fbi director has been fired, AG has been fired. No bells
ringing?
Michael, it is okay if you say that some instances are correct (security, abortion) but if this cost us the planet,
maybe it is just too much, don't you think? Reality check: we do not have a second Earth.

Your very stable genius in the office is not stable, and sure not a genius.
One last thing about race. Here, in US, 80% of people in jail are black or hispanic. Are worst than white or do
they have les protection? If a black kid steal an apple goes to jail because he cannot afford 200 $ for bailing
himself out. A white dude can have a loan from the bank of 50.000$ with the suspect of murdering someone.
True story.
With this, I am out.

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255 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz
Kafka
« on: February 03, 2019, 04:48:47 PM »

Depends on situation.
If someone is legally protected, and then a moron change the law, shouldn't we consider them in a different
situation then someone smuggling through the Rio Grande? (Every hints to DREAMERS is purely coincidental).
I am not playing with words, I am showing the lack of deep thinking and the abundance of prejudices in some
minds. Every categorization seems to me an offense on judgment. Undocumented means criminal? Not at all.
Send lawyers to the borders, not soldier. Give opportunities, not tags. This country is great because of
immigration, not despite of it.
You, like me, are a direct descendant of an immigrant, if not immigrant yourself. Keep the rethoric to politics,
who gains their living saying bulls***s, and keep human decency and moral values close to us. We will need
them.

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256 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: "The Great Wall of China". Short story by Franz
Kafka
« on: February 03, 2019, 01:56:42 PM »

There are a lot of silliness in this threat, IMO.

I remind you that Slavery was legal, and an acceptable way to move to US (in chain and through ships). And
was illegal free them.
Was also legal deport and kill humans during Hitler's reign, and was illegal trying to save them (they kill rightfully
you on the spot).
In South Africa, was legal for a small minority of white have complete access to resources while blacks where
second (third? Fourth?) class citizens...
Please don't use legal in your argument.

A human being cannot be illegal. An action is illegal. So someone pushing at a border, seking asylum, is not
illegal. Can be undocumented, like the vast majority of "illegal" resident in US (for the most part people
overstaying their visa), and for them you don't need a wall, or a border security, but better laws, and cheaper
immigration process.
I can't believe that intelligent people can accept any idiotic words from this repellent President. It is a disgrace
that he is in the position, but is even more disgraceful that people nowadays have lost so much of moral values,
and judgment, to vote or approve anything he does and say.

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257 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Small wins per session

« on: January 29, 2019, 02:16:02 AM »

We agree way more often than you think.

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258 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Small wins per session

« on: January 29, 2019, 12:54:43 AM »

I do travel a lot.
They usually don't kick you out. They put obstacles, like no permission to write down numbers. Winning regularly
put you not much in the eyes of casinos (they gain millions a day) but in the eyes of other people. Criminals, gold
diggers and other players are way more dangerous than casinos employees.

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259 Roulette Systems / Re: New idea (not mine)

« on: January 23, 2019, 07:35:56 PM »

That's exactly it. You don't get it. This is not a final product, it is a starting point.
If you are waiting for someone to post a final, polished, winning system, you are wrong. All you can get are ideas,
suggestions, starting point. You have to analyze it without prejudice (this won't work because it is similar to one
my cousin posted three years ago in a blackjack forum...), take its strong points and work on its flaws.
My perspective on this one is that I think major flaws will be getting a hit in a combination that doesn't bring
much to the cause (a double street with 3 units cash you 18, not enough, and you "wasted" a hit) and no control
of what to bet, with many optios excluding others because of proximity.
On the other hand the target is very clear: few numbers hit as su or split can wipe out negative balance quite
nicely.
Now, as third pointed out, it needs a recovery system. It is a way. I do not agree. A recovery system needs
something to rely upon, and there is nothing of that sort here. I think it will need a stop loss (something I hate), or
a way to lower down bets at every hit.
As I said, needs working.

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260 Roulette Systems / New idea (not mine)

« on: January 23, 2019, 03:43:51 PM »

talking with a friend, we were agree that one of the way to overcome variance is play a lot of spins. Generally
speaking, more spins you can play, less important will became clusters of outcomes, like repetitions or
patterns. In better words, resulta will be more balanced.
After talking and planning, he came up with an idea that can make sense, and I offer this to you all, for your
evaluation. Seems a little complicated at first, but really is not.
You start playing one number straight up, with one unit. Let say the last outcome. If not hit, second bet will be
last outcome straight up, second last as a split. Total negative balance -3
If not hit, wr play 3 units, last straight up, second last split and third as a street. Total negative balance -6.
If not hit, we add a corner (you got the idea) placing 4 bets. Fifth bet is adding a double street. Total negative
balance at this if we get no hits whatsoever is -15.
If we keep not hitting, we play to units on the double street. Next one without it and we add one unit on the
corner. Next one with no hit and we add a unit in the street bet. Keep going like this.
Any time we got a hit, we end the game if we are in profit or we keep playing without adding units if the game
is not over.
We never place bets that overstep one another (we try to cover as much field as we can).
When we add units, we start from the double street to the straight up. If we play three units in all five
combinations, and we do not hit, we add the fourth unit in the double street.
I hope it is clear enough. I don't have much time these days so I will not waste it writing this thing. I think it has
some potential, needs to be explored.

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261 Gambling Philosophy / Re: The Gtrat Math Mystery

« on: January 14, 2019, 03:26:23 AM »

MrJ. You are entitled to your opinion. Still, is your opinion. The moment you think what you know is the
indisputable truth then you are walking blind.
You can keep reminding us that all your years of experience landed you where you are now, but there are
many seas, and many beaches. In every niche of human activity there is more to discover than what we know
now. Roulette is no different.
You are portraying a character, the tough guy who walked across so many battlefields, that can be bend but
never broken, that saw all and understood everything. You are acting. Everybody knows that. It is clear and
quite entartaining. Still, there are people whom honestly tries to find their own solution, and needs more than
an old owl tooting his disbelieve.
Can you just step aside for a while, and let other people tries and fail, and learn and improve?
Please?

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262 Gambling Philosophy / Re: The Gtrat Math Mystery

« on: January 14, 2019, 01:06:57 AM »

Cashing money is not boring. Winning never will. Can be boring playing, especially if you take out he thrilling of
gambling.
I think that everybody must find a system or method that fits his needs, his being. I, for example, can't accept
a stop/loss, while other are ok with a system who wins in the long run. Some needs to play a lot of number,
others few. Some can endure long sessions, other prefers a short run.
Me, I need to have a sense of safety. My system works with a bankroll three times bigger than the worst
session ever encountered. This gives me that feeling.
I need to play every spin, and as soon as I enter in a Casino. So I don't work with triggers or virtual bets.
That doesn't mean they do not works. In this game, as in life, we are all amateurs. No matter how many years
we spent breathing, or sitting at a table. Who says otherwise is a fool, or an idiot. There are countless way to
approach the game. At each his own. You prefer AP, triggers, virtual, methods, signatures... Good, if it works.
If someone, anyone, says "your ways won't work" laugh at him, because he is just ignorant.
If I give you my Bertrand, probably you will not be able to make it profitable. And this because is not a perfect
fit for you. If you get my hints and advices, and use those to create something of your own, you could be
successful.
You know, the fish and fishing thing..

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263 Gambling Philosophy / Re: The Gtrat Math Mystery

« on: January 13, 2019, 11:20:12 PM »

Sorry that seems cocky mr J, but I don't care what math guys could say to me. I am happy with the almost half
a million I pocket in 2018.
Yes, I do feel I beat the game. Will last my lifetime? I hope so, for now it is 6 years and keep counting, without
loss.
But you know, are just words without proofs, right? If this helps you feel better about yourself...

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264 Gambling Philosophy / Re: The Gtrat Math Mystery

« on: January 13, 2019, 05:35:00 PM »

I keep repeating, and I am sorry for that, that the game is mathematically unbeatable. For me it is a statistical
game. Is like betting on events, like horse racing. But we need to be in the position of the bookers, not the bettor.
One horse has to win, so who holds the game knows that has to pay someone. What he is hoping is that the
total of the losing bets are more than the winning one. Bends the number in his favors, so the favorite pays less
and the underdog pays more. It is a very delicate balance (and a balance that needs to be readjusted
continuously, as new bettors comes to play).
A number must come out. We decided where to bet. So many strategies, so many methods, but these 2 things
are always true.

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265 Casino Lounge / Re: I met dr Talos

« on: January 11, 2019, 08:05:44 PM »

Michael, you should remember that the thread about decrypting my Bertrand was Reyth's. He posted about
that, not me. From me you always had ideas, suggestions, advises. Or, like other said, deceptions, lies, riddles,
nonsense.
No, i didn't meet Reyth. He disappeared from the forum and from my mailbox in the same time. Never heard
from him since last summer.
Jerome, you make few mistakes in your posts. You take assumption you did like certainty, and opinions like
facts. You are sure that you understood part of my way of playing. I disagree.
I am no magician, no Einstein. Maybe just a lucky guy with the right idea.

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266 Casino Lounge / Re: I met dr Talos

« on: January 11, 2019, 07:08:52 PM »

There is no need for me to posts, because the only things I can write will be just repeating what I already did:
not for sale, need to think originally about progression and money management, and so on and so forth.
By the way, I can read posts without logging in, you know right?
Some people are still working on my hints, and this make me proud and happy, because was my purpose all
along.
And there are the naggers, those whom no matter the subject, will come and say: it's a scam, I know the truth,
my decades of experience... Even if we create a thread just for studying Bertrand they will be there. Maybe they
go in churches and synagogues shouting that they are adoring a myth, and that they found the real God, they
just have to learn three, at worst four prays...
I already get offers of thousands of dollar to reveal my system, here, in this forum. They will say because you
don't have an HG. But, is not that the meaning of a scam? Selling bricks in a box instead of the new
superphone?

Just a little more thing: there is no physical description in the story above: height, hair color, or something. Just
a bunch of adjectives. Can't be real.

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267 Casino Lounge / Re: I met dr Talos

« on: January 11, 2019, 04:18:26 PM »

This is so hilarious I couln't resist. Whoever did that is great.

If his or her purpose was to get me out of my silence, it worked.
Well, as you easily understand, this has never happen. The description of myself is quite flattering, but
inaccurate unfortunately.
Just to settle a couple of things, especially to mr J that he has an habit to not get this clear, my system is not for
sale, now or never. And to Jerome, if I answer to your question, I give you my system, and I do not plan to.
If you can't solve the riddle doesn't seems the riddle is fake.
I do not understand quantum physics, means it is a scam?

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268 Questions and Answers / Re: anybody ever take a shot?

« on: July 23, 2018, 01:59:57 PM »

Trying to beat with math a game that is mathematically unbeatable is a nonsense, to me.
Try with a different approach. Consider that is a statistical game, meaning that some categories of events
happens, while some happens very rarely or never (we know that is possible, theoretically speaking, that in 37
spins you will see 37 different numbers. In reality, this has a probability three times lower than Earth been hit by
an asteroid in the next 10000 years, so why bother).
There are concepts that must be, in my opinion, completely ignored, like flat bet (because flat bet will pay the
HE no matter what).
You have two options here: or consider the wheel not a perfect generator of random events (for a bias, a
defect or else) so you could track the anomalies and take advantage of it, or work with your bankroll and
progression to overcome the variance. This is it, plain and simple.
I picked the second road because I don't want to chase defects, collect datas and rely on something that can
change (they can change rotor, or table, or just a little wedge at the bottom of a leg...). I wished to have a
method that works every time (unless is rigged, but there is no solution to this), so a casino can work like an
atm. I walk in and I walk out with more money in my pocket.
I respect people that are very good players and who can call themselves winners because, in like one year,
they won more than they lost. I respect system players who try and try in the search of their HG. I respect
whoever has a humble and constructive attitudine toward the game. Because of this respect, I tried to point
you in a direction that, at least for me, is the only one the grants you a result. My answers can be seen as
riddles, they are not. Are clear and easy signs to the promised land, if you do not use your prejudices to value
them.

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269 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Wise quotes

« on: June 27, 2018, 07:35:36 PM »

Fools chase wealth, wise men chase happiness.

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270 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: June 27, 2018, 07:34:39 PM »

The wheel must provide a number. And that number must be inside the mathematical probabilities that we
know. We can choose what and when to bet, we rule the game, while the wheel must respect its dynamic
constraints.
My opinion is that, in order to beat the game, you must follow it till it falls in your arms. I don't chase the
outcome, I wait. Unless it is rigged, the wheel will hit one of my number one time every 38 numbers played.
How to endure that wait is the challenge. I said it already. I am still working on that. Last week I found a way to
raise my needed ratio from 1/60 to 1/66. Sessions became a little shorter, so a little less boring. I Have no doubt
that in 5 more years will be even better than that.
Predictions, pre or post throw, sound a little silly to me. With modern technologies, thinking on a defected
wheel sounds anachronistic, in my opinion. I prefer to "trap" the session in a way that sounds like a mouse
trapped in a labyrinth: the only way out is providing a winning.
I suggest you for the last time to not waste time chasing numbers but rely on the only weakness game has. Its
weakness is your strong. Plan an approach that works perfectly on paper, with the math (probabilities) in your
favor, and you got it.

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271 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: June 26, 2018, 02:46:08 AM »

This is what I am saying from day one: pursue your dream because the promised land do exist. But, when I
pointed in a direction, many said my indications were wrong, that I was leading people to nowhere, to failure, or
to a trap.
We should use what we know or what we believe like a guiding light, one of many, avoiding to belittle other's
knowledge or opinions.
The use and abuse of the freedom granted us by a board like this one should ashame us. We could have used it
more wisely. We are guests here, kav's guests, and we should not use his place to insult other. And this is true
especially for people who think themselves smart and educated enough to go to war against an unbeatable
game.
Before being players, mathematicians, gamblers, or else, we are grown up gentlemen who respect other people
thought, especially if we disagree.

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272 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: June 19, 2018, 02:25:38 AM »

One concept quite important, at least for me, is that every unit played has different odds of coming put. For
example, if I play a dozen, I play 12 numbers out of 37. If I play a second dozen that extra units plays 12 numbers
out of 25.
That is very different from play one unit on one dozen for two spins...

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273 Questions and Answers / Re: New domain name ideas

« on: June 18, 2018, 03:47:24 PM »

Roulettechasers
Roulettelab
Turningwheel
Ruleroulette
RouletteS&T
Rouletteden

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274 Questions and Answers / Re: New domain name ideas

« on: June 17, 2018, 10:55:18 PM »

Wheel666
Greenvelvet
Rouletteclub
37pockets
Emeraldtable

More to come

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275 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: June 14, 2018, 12:12:19 PM »

I am quite open to talk about roulette, or systems (in general). I love to discuss ideas and approaches, compare
way of attack the game and to solve problems related to it.
What I will not reveal is my Bertrand, for obvious reasons, and what I don't like is to be called a liar or a scammer.
People here are more interested to affirm their position and their thinking instead of learning new ones, and it is
kinda sad. One of the tweaks that made my system as is today, come to me reading the parachute system
posted here, and even if my tweaks is not strictly related to that idea, is that thread I am grateful to. I am always
open to learn, even if you can consider me a winner of some sort.
People are entitled to their opinion, 100%. Unfortunately I do not see any good outcome that can come out after
affirmingI am a liar or my Bertrand do not exists. I understand Real's, MrPerfect, Kav and other's position, but those
position brings nothing to the duscussion.
I love constructive question, like How can this be done, how that... but they already knows all the answers, and
they are very careful to not walk ways that could contradict their believes,

About the meeting, I already said will be late summer/early fall. I am busy till then.
About the apparent disappearing of Kav and Reyth, Seems to me there's a plan behind it. Maybe they just wanna
see how an uncontrolled forum will move, or if the weeds will disappear for lack of attention. If they think that
trolls will leave the shore of this place because of its slow dying, they are wrong. Remember the story of the frog
and the scorpion.

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276 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: June 14, 2018, 10:55:43 AM »

Optimistique, I already took enough risks in this forum, I do not wish to compromise the safety of my family. For
what it can counts, I tell you I have a Prius Hybrid (waiting for the delivery of my Tesla) because I am kind of an
ecological guy, and I have a little nice single family home, with two bedroom and a huge backyard, in a small
village with excellent schools for my daughter. I do have a big studio with something like 5000 books.
I do not have a mansion, or a Ferrari. I win enough to be confortable with, and I do not need more. I do other
things other than sitting in front of a rotating ball. Not a greedy person, never be and never will.

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277 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: June 14, 2018, 01:06:35 AM »

Ok, I try to keep it simple for you. Let say we play a dozen (12 numbers) with 1 unit.
We miss.
We play once more a dozen, with 1 unit.
We miss.
We play on our third spin a dozen, with two units.
We miss. Our bankroll is -4 now.
We play a dozen with 3 units.
We miss. -7.
We play a dozen with 4 units. We hit. We win 1 unit. We plaid 60 numbers totally and we get just a single hit, but
we won. That's amazing...

What I achieved is a way to endure a lot of spins (can happen that I take my first hit after playing more than 200
numbers (or, as you say it, a wheel with 36 numbers and 164 zeros...) to chase that average, that as you say is at
the limit of statistics.

Thank you for sharing your OPINION.

Next.

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278 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: June 13, 2018, 11:01:55 PM »

Next.

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279 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: June 13, 2018, 07:55:07 PM »

I see my definition is not appropriate. When I say playable martingale I mean a progression that never get out
of hands. I don't rely on it, I rely on math (believe it or not). I think that I should get a hit every 38 number played
(double 00). The more numbers I play the closer to the average it will be. My strategy/system/bertrand will win
when I get an hit ratio of 1/60. It works because I find a way to endure hundreds of spins with thousands of
number played without breaking the bank. It is simple as that.
I see the wheel having a weakness (like everything in nature) and tried to exploit it. I had a new way to see the
game (what I called a "revolutionary idea") and I worked on that till I find a way to get a consistent and reliable
profit.
I worked hard and not without pain and losses. This means it will not be available for everybody (I am not
sharing it, for free or for money).
What Real, mrJ, MickyP, Kav, Reyth think about it is none of my business. They are free of their opinion. Their
certainties are ot mine, I am not in need to subdue to them.
HG do not exit? Very good, appreciate your sharing.
Next.

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280 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: June 04, 2018, 01:28:18 PM »

It is so pointless debating with or about mr. J and/or his posts... Can we please let him alone barking at the
moon?

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281 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: June 04, 2018, 01:35:03 AM »

https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/roul30-latest-gypsy-scam.9716/

I didn't wrote you sayd thta. I wrote you are one of them.
I personally find you are sometimes correct about things on this game, but the way to express your opinion is
not very pleasureful. Reminds me of an old saying: "even a broken watch marks the right time twice a day".
I think you are a rotten apple, trying to waste the all basket. I do not understand why you are here, unless you
find enjoyble your continuous fight with everybody. How tasteless is this behaviour, though.

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282 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: June 04, 2018, 12:30:26 AM »

I know there is nothing to do against prejudices. They wrote I am a guy named Jeffrey Tool, a well known
scammer, looking to find new victims.
I say again, nevertheless, that I don't need anybody's money. I will meet Reyth just to show that it works. I will
never ask him money, but I will offer him a dinner, probably.
I am sad that people, so many people, enjoys put s*** on other's. I am sad to see so much hate and jealousy,
envy and prejudice. I offered you informations, sure a little vague, and most of all a guiding light, without asking
a thing. This world has become nasty, and terrible.
I am just bitter. Forgive me for this rant.

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283 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: June 04, 2018, 12:23:20 AM »

With extreme sadness I found out that my name, and my ideas expressed here, are used in other forum to
discredit me and this public place. Sure one of the leader of that is Mr. J, and some other people who have
made their own opinions without the minimum knowledge of me or doing some efforts to go through the posts
to understand better. Basic point they made are:
I am a scammer.
This scam is guided by Kav.
Me and Kav are the same person.
Reyth is a dumb guy who will be scammed by me.
Reyth will give me money at the very first chance.

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284 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: May 30, 2018, 07:27:31 PM »

@frequency. My game changes following the game unfolding. My 23th bet in two different attacks can be similar
or very different.

@ainz and horsewill. Your results and your efforts were my goal when I signed for this forum. Your success is my
success, but I do not deserve any credit. You did the hard by yourselves, and you should congratulate just
yourselves.

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285 Casino Lounge / Re: Is it life changing?

« on: May 28, 2018, 01:21:35 PM »

I am totally agree with Mr. J this time. Is not much of a contribution to the discussion, I know, but felt the need to
side with him on that.
A system, or a way of playing the game, that do not put you in a different position than other gamblers in a
casino, it is just worthless.
If you walk in a casino (or log in in one) with the absolute confidence that you will walk out with more money
in your pocket than before, you have something. If you "hope" for this outcome, well, you are in a bad situation.

About Bertrand, is not a riddle to solve, is a prospective to achieve. Game is there, rules and math are well
known, but the answer needs to be in the outside box, otherwise by now mathematicians and enthusiasts
would have been already exploited it. I agree that many answers come to us in a unexpected way, with
intuitions and enlightenment, and we should trust our guts more.

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286 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: April 28, 2018, 02:10:59 PM »

Will be late summer/early fall

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287 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: who is going to be the next USA president?
« on: April 19, 2018, 07:46:56 PM »

Is the same multi billionaire who took 20000 $ from a charity foundation to buy a giant portrait of himself?
Is my English clear enough?

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288 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: who is going to be the next USA president?
« on: April 18, 2018, 01:01:09 PM »

thelaw, this kind of discussion makes no sense to me, because people uses opinions like facts, and their
understanding of what's going on is biased from the beginning.
I make just an example, based on true facts. EPA, run now by Scott Pruitt, a guy who sued EPA several times in
the past, has got a new guideline that states how the mission for the institution is not to preserve environment,
but to do everything it takes to let private companies accomplish their mission using natural resources. In
order to do that, EPA must find a way to change regulations about protections of environmental niches, animal
wildlife, and so on and so forth, so the private company will do his work faster and more efficiently.
The Dakota pipeline has been one of the first example of that.
Trump took the US out of the Paris agreement for climate change, because is a climate change denial. Now, it
is absolutely despicable that someone gamble with the future of our children and grandchildren. In the world
just three country are not part of the agreement: Siria (seems they have bigger fish to fry, right now),
Guatemala (because they think guidelines of Paris Agreement are not ambitious enough) and USA.
Islands are disappearing, Venice will be a thing of the past in decades... how stupid and dangerous is his
position? And all we want is cleaner air, less polluted environment, and less dangerous weather, while Trump
extended the permission to drill for oil, and in the meanwhile other country will run to reduce emission, to
detach from oil, to seek clean energy.
The America Trump allude with his "great again" is the US of the fifties, who not longer exist. Is the America
emerged from WWII, when he was a kid with all the toys he had then. It is a senile fantasy, not a political
program.

Run a country like a business? How can exist an idea more dumb than this one? A country is not a company,
because the latter wants to achieve a profit, to make his board and shareholders happy, and everything that
goes in that direction is well done, unethical or barely legal as it can be; in managing a country, everyone must
be beneficiary, and everyone must be protected (elderly, sick, mentally ill, marginalized people, etc etc), and all
citizens must progress towards a better life. As you can see Trump cares about his voters, not the whole
country.

What about lies? How can someone trust a guy who is not respectful to his own wife? If he doesn't care about
the mother of his children, how do you think he can care about you and me?
Fake News? And what about alternate facts (aren't you still laughing for the risible affirmation about the size
of the crowd at his inauguration day?).

Guys, we need to go back to values: a bad man can't be a good president (Chester Arthur was an exemption,
and he wasn't has bad as Trump). In Japan they say that your shadow cannot be straight if your body isn't. This
man is a racist, so people feels free to show despicable racism acts because they feel endorsed by him (I don't
say it is right, still this happens).
Statue of Lee? That man fought for states rooting for slavery. They lost the civil war (fortunately) and they will
have the same respect due to Hitler and Stalin (no many statues of them too, am I right?).
Trump made 1 million people illegals (DACA was an act of the law protecting them, and in the moment you rip
off that law and make them illegal, you chase them down? Oh my, how despicable is this?). If tomorrow wakes
up saying that you and me are not welcome in this country, what happens to us? I remember a guy who said
that a religion wasn't good for the country, and wiped them down. Ring a bell to someone?
In Italy, work camps (extermination camps) where all over the place, and in northern Europe even more. My
grandparents were brought there, and not all of them returned. Entire communities in my area have been
erased. Who went back had a number on his wrist, and nightmares for the rest of their life. Maybe from some
distance the extermination wasn't that big, but from up close was a thing. They started with mentally ill, with
poor people, then they moved to jews and rom. How many millions? Let say they were not six, but 5, does it
change something? Let say 3, let say 1. Let's reach a number low enough to not be outraged by the moral
annihilation of the continent, so we can walk away from that black spot.

About the conspiracy theorists, here and everywhere nowadays, just one word: really?
Reality is harsh enough to not chase shadow men with secrets plans (how absurd is a secret society that
everybody with google can find out. I mean, your mind is not able to see the contradiction in this assumption?).
Trump is an idiot with money, who got the money from his father by the way, and if he had put his money on a
safe hedge fund back then, now would have been much richer than he is. A very stable genius with a touch for
the deal, like the revolving door at the white house show clearly, with people leaving call him a moron...

A last hint of the completely disgusting and untrue statement about the races not meant to be mixed: please
open a book about genetics. You will find that human beings are stronger with mixing, that why you closed
communities are weaker, and relatives cannot (shouldn't) marry among themselves. The way chromosome
works make differences be very desirable, while similarities not so much. What you say is also morally
unacceptable, and ethically wrong.

Sorry for my English, as always, and when I am pissed get worst.

Who think Trump is fit for the role, must turn of tv and read some books.

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289 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: who is going to be the next USA president?
« on: April 17, 2018, 03:07:35 PM »

The amount of ignorance in the last posts is overwhelming. Sorry I wish to walk away from this kind of
quagmire

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290 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: who is going to be the next USA president?
« on: April 17, 2018, 03:16:27 AM »

Trump is a despicable human being. He is a liar, a cheater, a con man, an egomaniac, and it is such a shame
that is a President. Racism and bigotry are rampant now, because of him, and make US a joke amongst
nations. He is a little boy with mental issue who cares nothing about other people other than himself.
US has step backward 50 years with his election win, and I hope he will go soon. Who don't see how bad is a
president who created a fake university to steal money from college kids, who treated women like objects, who
fu**ed workers with an alarming regularity, who failed in many of his "brilliant" enterprise, who is a disturbing
contradictory liar, is simply not well informed.
I am sorry, but I don't value much who roots for this "man".

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291 Other topics (not related to casino or roulette) / Re: Humans...

« on: April 15, 2018, 10:07:46 PM »

Rinad, you said it beautifully and I clap your post.

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292 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: April 15, 2018, 10:06:06 PM »

You are so very welcome, Jerome

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293 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Can the past show the future?
« on: April 15, 2018, 04:25:24 PM »

The quote "history reapeats itself" is very misleading. Apparently, it does, but in fact never happens. Seems so
because human beings try to uniform reality to what they already knows, so they utilize the same words for
different things. A simple example understandable by anybody: slavery. The slavery in ancient Greece,
perpetuated by Spartans, was way different from the slavery American Colonist perpetuated in US. In the first
case Spartans enslaved people in order to get their land and property, while Americans bought people from
Africa like a workforce, as we buy cattle, or dogs to guard the house.
That the thing about patterns. Our mind try to see them because the vastity of possible outcomes it is so big
(talking about roulette now) that for our mindt is more manageable if restricted in groups.
In reality, conditions are always different. I don't want to bring in this topic Theory of Chaos, but you should have
this in the back of your mind. So many factors influence the outcomes of a spin (and the actions and reactions of
humans through history...) that seems to me an unworthy effort.

The study of history is meant to be not a way to predict what will be, but how has been. It is more a satisfaction
for curiosity than a chase of knowledge. We study history to answer two questions, "Who?" And "What?", while we
develope technology try to answer "How?", and we use philosophy and religion to answer "Why?".

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294 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: April 10, 2018, 06:52:56 PM »

Jerome you are right

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295 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: April 10, 2018, 03:17:09 PM »

Scarface, what I said is, if your choice of number is random, makes no difference of the outcome of Bertrand.
You can have a better selection, maybe, but is not what I rely on. Whatever people thinks, I rely on math, I rely
on achieving my ratio.
I usually play not much spins, so cold or hot numbers have Short time to develop their "nature". In longer
systems, meaning systems that can usually last many more spins, can be useful have a tighter bet selection.

I read a lot of good points in the last posts here, and many good thoughts. That is very reassuring.

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296 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: April 08, 2018, 02:11:33 PM »

Scarface, this is something I already answered. Let's try to tell the long story.
I couldn't find a way to shorten my recovery, that lasted for so many spins in the early version of one of my
system, and so many times I found myself in a situation to be very close to an end that was never to be
reached.
One night, when you recollect all activities you had in your day, and mind start to wander on his own, came to
me a sort of an idea. I different way to see the full process of recovery. I was completely awake, excited by the
prospective to see the game so differently as I ever did, and I ran in my office to write down the backbone of
my idea.
Was an hour of full immersion. I took out my notepads with my visits at casinos diligently recorded, with all
numbers there waiting for the test. And I starting testing the idea I had, and that I call revolutionary since then.
That was it, something that can work as a recovery but cannot as a system, so I had to build a system that
answer to a simple question I had: "the best way to make this weird recovery works is that my system brings
me to this condition". And I did, I still do.
I always improve, with little tweaks, my system, but the backbone of my recovery didn't changed a bit.
So, to close this thing, here's what it is: a recovery progression that not relies on magical sequences of
outcomes, that do not require a huge bankroll, and that is able to recover steadily and efficiently. It's expands
and contracts as the games ask to, sometimes betting more numbers, sometimes less, in a way that follow the
session I am in.
The requirement to end is that a certain point I need to reach a ratio of 1/60, roughly, between the hits and the
numbers played. I can wait for that. Sometimes I need to play more than 1200 numbers to get 18/20 hits. But,
most of the time, 250 numbers are enough to get 4 hits, and close the game.

It is tied to that session? Not really. If I am tired I could walk away, have a dinner, go back to the game, in the
same or at a different table, an airball machine or a live roulette, and play as I never stopped the session, and
it works exactly the same.
There is no way I will not get that ratio, sooner or later, unless the game is biased (that's why I do not play
online). The recovery keeps the balance low, and I have patience. A game at airball can last almost two hours
(happens like twice a month), most of the time I finish every session in the first spins.

It is mathematically perfect? No, is not. Theoretically speaking, can burst. But what happens in theory is not
what will happen in reality. Does not need to be perfect, needs to work. Is like a car, or a computer: are they
perfect machines? They are not, but they do their job.
My frustration sometimes, here, is that people who relies on math wants that on paper a system is bulletproof.
Why? All in our life is not perfect, even the functions of the living body is not perfect. It is balanced between
imperfections, and corrects himself with sickness, and aging, and eating and drinking. It is not a robot, but is
alive and works, does his tasks.
The debate about the mathematically impossibility for a system to be an HG it is so silly.
My recovery, my Bertrand, use the weakness of the game against the game, in a very artistic, creative, way. I
found myself in a dead end every time I try to get a perfect, mathematically bulletproof system.
You know the Wright Brothers? They couldn't make their machines fly. They tried and tried till, frustrated,
decided to get rid of the calculation of an engineer, considered at those time the basic reference point for
lifting equations (Lilienthal), and start doing things their own way.
Now, I am not even close to their geniality, but sure I am crazy enough to understand that a pure
mathematically approach wouldn't solve the dilemma, so I was in need to find a new approach. That the
reason of this thread.

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297 Roulette Systems / Re: Hits v Repeaters

« on: April 06, 2018, 09:06:19 PM »

I tried several times to use the Law of the Third in a single cycle, but I could never reach an acceptable result. I
am following this thread with a lot of curiosity.
Just bringing my personal experience, I had a cycle with 32 single numbers and 5 repeaters (in a B&M casino
with a live dealer), that killed my experience with this option.

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298 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Who is MickyP?

« on: April 06, 2018, 09:03:49 PM »

Micky, my first "job" happens to be as a writer, a novelist precisely. I would love to hear more about the situation
in South Africa, and your personal story sound truly fascinating.
If I can be of any help about your moving in USA (if you are considering this country as a possible destination)
you just have to ask, I will be more than happy to help you.

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299 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Wise quotes

« on: April 06, 2018, 04:03:50 AM »

The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.

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300 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: What you will do ?

« on: April 06, 2018, 01:07:26 AM »

So, something do not exist just because you did not experienced it?
Quite a small world the one you are living in. Nice and cozy for sure, but small...

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301 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: April 04, 2018, 03:43:32 AM »

I'll try to answer to all questions about systems, developing them and try to go unbeaten roads.
But, if you ask "what you do after the fifth spin" or, "if i do this, it will be good?" i will not answer. I don't want that
you reach my Bertrand, I want you to find your own.
There is no need to pretend something. I share what I wanna share, and keep for me what I wanna keep. I
made this clear from day 1. You like it or not I don't care.
I keep saying that, in my opinion, is the recovery part the crucial aspect. You can create the best system in the
world, but sometime it will happen that your system goes wrong and you need to accept the loss or try to
recover it. Because of my mindset I am not able to accept any loss (I barely accept a no profit in very long
games when this incidentally happens), so I work on recovery. Can be (the recover section) in as many level as
you wish, my suggestion is to keep numbers as low as possible. A recovery means you need more than one hit
to end the session, otherwise is just your system streching out.
And one more thing: the total bankroll needed must be low as well. If you play pennies, 2000 units is not an
issue, but if your system works you wanna bring to a casino or at least use a real value, like 5 dollars units. In
that case, your bankroll will be a little hard to handle.. imagine 10 or 25$ chips...

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302 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: April 03, 2018, 03:14:13 PM »

Leowls, if you think I will guide you to Bertrand, you are wrong...

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303 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: April 03, 2018, 02:29:52 PM »

Giajjenno, I made a softer progression to have a shorter recovery.

Say "I never said that I play EC" is different than affirm "I never play EC".

Leowls, generally speaking, I don't like a system that has a zero has a profit. Why invest money to go even? And,
as I said, the system is not really relevant, is the recovery the key.

Jerome, I strongly believe the bet selection is of no importance.

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304 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: April 03, 2018, 12:42:12 PM »

A situation that must occur can be the outcome of a black number, or one column. It doesn't matter. Your
system need a situation to occur. More likely is the situation, more "easy" to get the hit.

On a side note: I am receiving too many PM, more than I can handle. Please use posts to ask me about your
explorations of systems, or for any simple request. I will be more than happy to respond them.

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305 Casino Lounge / Re: Do you believe in luck? (poll)

« on: April 02, 2018, 11:02:08 PM »

Luck exist. Otherwise, how can you justify success of the people you do not like?

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306 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Wise quotes

« on: April 01, 2018, 02:56:52 PM »

"Criticism is prejudice made plausible."

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307 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Few Numbers are Best Bet

« on: April 01, 2018, 01:20:58 PM »

I like the image, MrPerfect. They don't wake up even when you f*** their own wife, in their own bed, with them
sleeping there meanwhile...

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308 About this forum / Re: Selling roulette products and services
« on: April 01, 2018, 12:23:50 AM »

Both eyes Reyth, Sigmund Freud here got me

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309 About this forum / Re: Selling roulette products and services
« on: March 31, 2018, 11:36:54 PM »

I always kept my world, in my all life. My wife hates when I stick to my words after people get advantage upon
me. I am Sicilian by blood, my honor is more important than my life. I said I will meet Reyth and will happen.
You have no idea who I am. Attention seeker? My god, really?

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310 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do you start discover one HG?
« on: March 31, 2018, 11:24:42 PM »

Can I keep using Bertrand?

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311 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: March 31, 2018, 11:23:44 PM »

I think is worthy, though.

And, by the way, I posted a couple of systems that are valuable, if someone take some time to develope them.

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312 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: March 31, 2018, 11:02:55 PM »

Last two posts are exactly the reason why I started write here in the first place: to encourage discussion on a
different approach against the wheel. We all know the classic strategies, we need a refreshing view.
All the fight against me or Bertrand are simply irrelevant if I will help any of you finding a result. Thank you.

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313 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: March 31, 2018, 05:44:47 PM »

Scarface, those are the first 4 bets of the system, not the whole system.
Recovery must rely on bigger picture than the system, or it will not work. When you bet, you are changing your
statistics, your probability, your chances. You all have to understand this.

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314 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: March 31, 2018, 05:41:57 PM »

Giajjenno, if you read what I wrote, and read carefully, you will find answers to your questions...

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315 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: March 31, 2018, 04:47:56 PM »

You all shouldn't focus on this. Is the recover the beating heart of every system.
The difference between a system and a recovery is that the system needs a single hit to end a session, while
recovery implies several hits to go back to normal expectations, and so to get a profit.
For the recovery to have a chance of a success must have few units to recover, and rely on a situation that
"must" occur.

The recovery and the system should be, in my opinion, a different way to grab the same target. As you can see,
my first 4 spins cover the 1/60 ratio. The rest of the system push a little bit forward to a worst ratio than that. If I do
not hit, the recovery kicks in, and in the recovery I need to reach that ratio (or close. If I have three hits in a row,
even when the game is way far from the starting point, because of progression I can close the session with a
ratio of 1/70, for example).
The trick is to keep exposition low, to keep your numbers (as a negative balance) as little as possible.
As I said, at this point combinations (street, double street, splits...) are not the same.

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316 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: March 31, 2018, 01:57:54 PM »

I mention in another thread that systems, in my opinion, are a 2 parts thing. The first is the basic concept of the
system, like bet selection, progression if is the case, triggers... The idea the system is built on.
As an example, consider a system that targets neighbors. You bet on the coldest number and the 2 pockets
close to it, with the assumption that if the target number is getting cold is because the pockets near him are
collecting tons of hits (is an idea as good as any).
Cover five numbers with a flat bet for seven spins costs you 35 units. If we do a progression, we can go for 3
more spins, and the bankroll needed si 65 units. Let go to x3 and add two more spins. Total now is 95. One
more, x4, means two more spins, -135. x5, one spin, -160.
At this point, we played 75 numbers total. Because of how things work in roulette, we didn't get a hit. We need
to recover that negative balance.
This is the crucial point. We cannot relay on putting more and more money. At a certain point the request of
cash will be unbearable, of for table limits or for our pockets. Many people decide to go a little further, invest
like 1000 units and if doesn't ends well, well, register a bad day.
Others fix a stop loss, considering that the vast majority of game will end in the first 15 spins. The amount won
will compensate the bad loss. And if you select what to play, with triggers and red flags, you can do it.

As you already know, I don't think that wheel has memory. I think that previous spins have zero influence on
next spins. Every time I can't see clearly the subject of my study I step back, and I try to observe from a
distance.
Wheel has rules, but roulette rules works only on big numbers. Casinos rely on that. Many many players, some
will win and some will lose. Because they pay less of what is mathematically fair, at the end they will win (I
know, HE, common knowledge). I think also we can use roulette rules against it. There is no a strong point that is
in the same way a point of weakness. Tao, Yin/Yang. Night comprehend day, and day comprehend night. Good
has a drop of evil, and the other way around.
I am digressing, as always.

So, back to recovery.

You can be aggressive, considering that what has not happen yet will have to happen soon (a sort of GF), and
attack the wheel with knife in your teeth, that can be reducing numbers played, increasing bet, a mix of the
two...
Or diversion, switch completely "system" and play the hottest one, or chasing a repeater, with a reduced
progression so to wait more than one hit to solve the game.
Or whatever you may think of.

What I wanna point out is that the recovery must be the core of any system. No matter what system you use,
you will need to recover your balance at some point.

When I did Bertrand, I made for levels of recovery. During the years, I never used the fourth, so I redesigned the
system to get a little advantage at the beginning of the session. I found out that will never happen to bet more
than two thousands numbers to fall in the 1/60 ratio the system is built upon.
Now, my first four bets are
1 units EC
2 units EC
2 units DZ
3 units DZ

This informations is useless, IMO. I played 60 numbers, with 8 units total, and a good percent of games are
already closed with a winning of a single unit. Is at this point that I start recover? No, the basic system proceeds
(and is not that hard understand how).
But, what I wanna point out, is that this is a good statistical start, nothing more. You can have better, I have
better.
We need to set the basic system in a way to avoid the recovery be impossible. This is a very important
concept.
If I have a system that ends well in 98% of games, but if not I have a balance of 1200 units to recover,
unfortunately there is no recover able to regain that (if there is, play directly the recover).

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317 About this forum / Re: Selling roulette products and services
« on: March 31, 2018, 03:15:46 AM »

If I talk about cooking I do not became a chef. MickyP and Reyth enthusiastically embraced the idea, but there
is nothing to sell so about what are you talkng about?
If offenses are to be considered, I have been called a liar, a scammer, and a troll in every thread I am in, and in
some I don't even wrote a word in them. Sometimes the insult was direct, sometimes more subtle, but still. Do
We have to ban everybody?
I tell you once again: there is nothing to sell. I had the idea inspired by a story I read few days ago, about a guy
who decripted a weakness in the lottery and get advantage on it, then he offered to friends and neighbors the
opportunity and some of them accepted while other did not. They made millions.
My idea was not only tied to this forum. My first partner is my attorney, second a good friend of mine, and third
a guy who gave me a big help when I moved to this country. But, as I understood, it won't work and I will not
pursue the project.
Honestly, all this anger one against the other is beyond my comprehension. Ap player against systems
player... why? Aren't people allowed to walk their own road the way they like? Aren't people allowed to believe
what they want? Aren't people allowed to speak freely? Why internet makes everybody so harsh judges over
other people life? There is no rule for a claim to be proven. I can say I am a woman, do I have to send you my
ID?
Some people are just intolerant. They hate when someone does not follow their parh. Why? Am I free to get
lost or I have to follow your directions?
Are you really sure you got all the answers? Roulette is an old game, has weaknesses, I claim I found a way to
exploit them. Does this affect your life?
I don't believe in God, but I don't get mad if someone prays, if someone has faith. I don't spend my life try to
convince others that scientifically God is an absurdity.and I am sure that all the scientists here act the same.
And the soul and believes, God, are way more important than the existence of Bertrand.
So please, quit the crusade. I will never explain Bertrand, I will never show it, and I will keep claiming that I am
doing quite some money with it. I will keep my effort to make people see roulette in a more open way, so they
can have a new weapon against it. That is how it is, how it will be.

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318 Roulette Systems / Re: System on dozens and/or columns

« on: March 31, 2018, 02:52:49 AM »

Gambling philosophy, how I make my system thread, one of the last posts.

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319 Roulette Systems / Re: System on dozens and/or columns

« on: March 31, 2018, 01:29:48 AM »

Already posted in the other thread

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320 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 31, 2018, 01:06:30 AM »

If you wanna include other people on your team, you must rely on a way of play that not depends on ability or
wisdom of the player. Must be very mechanical, because if you need interpretation it won't work.

About the other question, I never planned to go alone. I will be careful, very careful. I trust Reyth, but I do not
know him, and he does not know me.
To understand Bertrand you need my explanation. You can look at my game but you will barely know situation
that occurs during that game. What about what's not happening? I had days where the longest session was 11
spins, so before 1st level of recovery. No learning there for sure.
If Bertrand exist, I am talking hypothetically.

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321 About this forum / Re: Selling roulette products and services
« on: March 31, 2018, 12:34:27 AM »

We should do a challenge, walk in a random casino, sit on a random table, and see who wins more in a fixed
amount of time...
I forgot, AP needs to collect data first, then analyze them and found if that particular one is beatable, and
then...
By that time, I would have been long gone.
But, you know what, occurred to me an Arab quote: the peace fruit hangs from the tree of silence.

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322 Questions and Answers / Re: Earning Reward Points at Airball Tables
« on: March 30, 2018, 11:42:41 PM »

Argus, are you in Connecticut?

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323 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 30, 2018, 10:25:41 PM »

Guys, are you able to read? Do you know meaning of words and how to get a sense from a sentence?
It is just talking, there is nothing going on now. No company, no shares, I have no idea of the value, I have no
idea how to manage it, so I asked for opinions, like friends in front of a beer talking about making a better
world. Would you send all of them to jail or to a doctor or just enjoy the talking?
About the reason for that, I already al explained at least twice.
And reyth will be 2 yards from me. He just will not be able to see what I bet (that the reason for using a
machine instead of a table).

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324 About this forum / Re: Selling roulette products and services
« on: March 30, 2018, 10:15:47 PM »

So, if an AP player claims that he can beat the wheel is legit, and if you ask for proofs he teaches you, for
advance lessons with a fee, and then you have to buy a computer or a device, and this is still legit.
If a system player does the same, he is a scammer. And he is a scammer even if he does not sell a thing. Just
the idea in itself make him a guy to keep an eye on.
And if AP player or AP supporters goes on every thread to destroy other people opinions is ok, while discussing
ideas out of AP is always wrong and bad.

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325 About this forum / Re: Selling roulette products and services
« on: March 30, 2018, 09:45:36 PM »

an hypotetical scenario to explain what was my idea, that what it was. I tried to collect thoughts, not money.
Many people asked me to share what I have. I do not intend to. So, I for a short while thought to go big and let
people get a beneficial from that. I was wrong.
Seems everytime I do something here a fight start. Is not my intention.
I say sorry to all people offended or disgusted by my posts

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326 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 30, 2018, 05:21:52 PM »

Ok, let me recap for newcomers:

I will not share my Bertrand.
I will not sell my Bertrand.
Because my system is real, I encourage people to pursue their goal, despite the naysayer.
Because of my attitude, I try to give hint , clues and suggestions to help people think by themselves and. Find
their way. I don't give you a fish I try to teach you fishing.
And, here, people says fish do not exist, and I get mad.

People call me liar, scammer, attention grabber and now troll. I get madder.
I have no gain in showing Bertrand is real, but I will show Reyth because you blinded and shortminded cannot
recognize the sound of true when you hear it.

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327 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 30, 2018, 04:22:09 PM »

I said so many times that my hypotetical bankroll is a certain amount, but the one I need is way lower. I said
many times that I never reached 4th level of recovery (as a matter of facts I redesigned it to have just three
levels of that and a little more aggressive approach at the beginning so to end 95% of sessions at the first level
of recovery or sooner).
Is clear to everybody that martingale is a winning but unplayable progression, so you assumption that a
progression is not a winning method makes no sense to me.
So I rely only on progression, no and yes. My progression is not an usual one, and I use my "famous"
revolutionary" idea. And, as I said, if tomorrow will bust I will loose few hundreds units against the hundreds
thousands I won so far.
My selection is irrelevant. I can win with every pattern I decide to (neighbors, repeaters, opposite side pf the
wheel, cold, hot...). I can leave a table at mid game and join the table close to it starting where I left and i will
have the same outcome.
You cannot cherry picking what I say to fit your rooted opinions. Or take the whole or join the naysayer. They
are waiting for you with open arms,
Reyth can write down spin outcomes, I will tell him what my starting bank is and what profit I will reach in a
fixed amount of time.
For what I get about him from his writing he will be respectful and honest, basic attitude to get something
from me.

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328 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 30, 2018, 11:20:24 AM »

Forget to mention:
If you accept the loss you are heading for doom. If a system fails once can fail ever, nothing can stop it to fail
10 times in a row. Or one hundreds.
And, moreover, you loss your most important assett, the confidence the player has in itself and his strategy.
The winning is inside the player, first and foremost.
Everytime I had a system that failed, I discharged it in a blink of an eye, without regrets.

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329 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 30, 2018, 11:15:04 AM »

I developed the system with an european wheel. I tested with wiesbaden and homburg permanences and I
was scared about the opposite, once moved to US.
On the long run the double 0 take his toll, I win 2 units less, on average, in 100 spins.

About your second consideration, you have to understand that a system has two parts. The first is the idea in
itself, the second is the recovery, when for any reason you do not end in profit the first half. Here is where you
make the difference. If you accept the loss, you are saying you do not understand the recovery, or you aren't
able to manage it. You can have a winning system if both aspect are there.
Many system's creator unfortunately think that the first part is what's matters. Is not. You can create
thousands of good "half-systems", but they will not win in the long run.
For example, let's say you start betting 3 double streets in the first spin, if not it you move your bet's on three
street, for two spins. You are out 9 units, so next two bets will be on 3 splits, still no hit and you are out 15 units, so
you bet 3 straights for the next 6 spins.
This is a very simple system, and allows you to play a total of 66 numbers needed just one hit to hit, playing a
flat bet. You are out 33 units, if you miss. What you do?
Progression? Stop/loss? Something else?
Rules valid for the first half of the game or no more the same for the second half. Or like I said you should
never exclude but always include, No this OR that, but this AND that.

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330 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 30, 2018, 03:04:27 AM »

What I plan to do, Reyth, is meet you in a casino, sit in an airball machine, play for four hour straights and end
up with 100 units, in a very steady pace (this is what defines a winning system, I know how much I will win
before I start, no matter which machine I have in front of me, and I can repeat the process everytime in every
occasion).
You will sit not too close to me, so you will not see my bets, but you can check if I cheat. As I said, you will not
learn Bertrand, but I will give you something you can work on a little. I am sure you will appreciate.
MickyP, I am sorry but you really live way too far. First time you come close enough we will meet.

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331 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 30, 2018, 02:58:11 AM »

Why, cht? you do not worth enough. Who cares about your opinion? Not me for sure.
What do i gain from you? You will not recognize a winning system even if I make drawings and sketches. You
are just enable to accept something that contraddict your prejudice. You are not strong enough to put your
opinion on the table, and you label them as facts to protect them.
The most eminent minds in this world are sure about nothing, but in this forum some people thinks they know
everything, they judge everybody, they shoot their sentences.
Cht, I have my winnings in my pockets, I give a s*** about your opinion. My reality is in contrast with it.
I will show to Reyth because he is someone with whom I can talk. I will show him because he deserves it. He
earned it because he says "can be". i don't care about naysayer. They have to sell their own recipe. Their are
what they say others are, scammers.
I am sure there are many ways to beat the wheel. i found one, but because of that I do not say mine is the
only one. This is a nonsense. There are many roads to reach a place.
Prove you wrong? For what purpose? Stay in your certainity, stay in your little bubble, keep shouting. Life is
bigger than you, Roulette is bigger than you. You don't have the littlest grasp on it, like All the others who say
the same.
I always said that the correct answer from you guys should be "I don't know if HG exist. I never found one, but I
cannot deny it just because I did not found it."
I found the weakness of the whell making tons of calculation and I have found that not all combinations are
the same, I found that bet one dozen or two double streets is not the same, and not because you use an extra
coin. And 4 streets are also different. If you work hard enough you can find a little wrinkle that can be used. But
people with truth in their pocket will not go along roads they cannot see, am I right?
This little thing I explained now is a first step of a long journey. Wanna know if I am who I say I am? follow the
white rabbit, and if you decide not to, please stay away from my shoulder and move on.
I am tired of people like you.

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332 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 30, 2018, 01:13:13 AM »

Reyth don't bet.

Scepticus will win.

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333 Casino Lounge / Re: The Bad Run.

« on: March 29, 2018, 10:20:27 PM »

I had the worst run of the year so far just today. I had to wait more than 200 numbers played before getting the
first hit, and another 115 to get the second.
My maximum exposition was 248 units, the average hit/ratio at the end was 1/78, and the win 11 units. Was funny,
and that why I am posting this, is that meanwhile I was reading this thread.

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334 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 29, 2018, 10:17:36 PM »

Well, I thought you were closer. Anyway, I will do, I promise, as soon as possible.
In the meantime, I drop this thread because I had all answers I was looking for.
Thank you.

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335 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 29, 2018, 06:04:59 PM »

You already know guys that, when this will happen, and you will post your experience, people will say
1) we are partners in this elaborate scam, or
2) I promised you money if you help me steal some money here, or
3) I have been lucky, or
4) does not prove anything because test is too short. I have to play continuously for 100 years to prove my
claim

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336 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 29, 2018, 04:15:07 PM »

MickyP, Reyth, please pm me where do you live, the city or the area (I do not need the exact address). We'll
meet and I will show you how I win with my Bertrand (I will not teach it to you though), just to show these
simpletons that they are living in a prison that they set up.
There is not dumber act than putting limits on what you can do (how this as a quote?)

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337 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 28, 2018, 11:28:16 PM »

Let's say invent a new carrots slicer, and O start a kickstarter to collect funding for production. I think will smash
the market, so my investor put some money in it and hope for the best.
The product so not perform as expected, unfortunately investors lose their money. Or, the things sells a lot,
and they gain money.
Is that different? You can gain money you will not get otherwise. And I will not get 100% of what the system
produce because I share with investors.

But, you know, probably you are right, is not something to pursue. My idea should stay at bay.
Anyway, thank you for all your thoughts, was exactly what I was looking for.

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338 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 28, 2018, 09:17:24 PM »

Jerome, I really appreciate your last words. Yes, I am debating that in my mind.

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339 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 28, 2018, 08:50:00 PM »

No you can't. Works better with a single zero for obvious reasons.

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340 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 28, 2018, 07:28:46 PM »

The subject of this thread is the project to build a company on Bertrand' shoulders.
I will not explain my system here. There are specific threads about that that you can read, if you are not too
lazy. I will add nothing to those info, hints and clues, here or elsewhere.

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341 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 28, 2018, 05:46:30 PM »

Check previous answer

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342 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 28, 2018, 05:00:50 PM »

Giajjenno, I was ironic.

All things to know about Bertrand are in a different thread. I will not add anything to that.

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343 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 28, 2018, 04:57:22 PM »

Mike, this happen when prejudices talk instead of taking time to understand other people's mind/view/opinion,
thoughts. And show how much we tend to overestimate our comprehension of the reality around us.
If you take time read and understand you will read answer to your questions in my previous posts: I cannot
reach those numbers by myself. If I play 50 or 100$ chips I will cross table limits, while splitting the bet in two or
three people will be legit. Sometimes the game requires you to bet big.

Many big companies, despite they are in profits,sell shares. Why? Because some goals cannot be reached by a
single individual player.

Moreover, before selling quotes, I already wrote that I will show numbers, documents, and witnesses (but not
Bertrand) and then all will follow.
There is nothing here to be gullible for. This is a serious project. Sorry you still miss the opportunity to show how
smart you are, and instead how short your vision is. Don't worry, there is people still believing Earth is flat, so you
are in good company.

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344 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 28, 2018, 02:24:23 PM »

Fyodor, I get 200 units a day for 8 hours work (at airball machine, but there is no problem working with live dealer.
My concern is time between spin and noise. If you raise the value of your units, you have to move to live dealer
anyway).
Three people can obtain 600 units a day. Now, it depends what's the chip value of those units. Let's say 50$. I am
not good at math, how much will the total be at the end of the day?
Seems not much for a revolution, indeed, unless you do for like 150 days a year. Go back to math. 600x50x150=?
Please Fyodor help me with that sum.

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345 Questions and Answers / Re: What is your goal when you go to casino?
« on: March 28, 2018, 12:23:50 PM »

Giajjenno, you are a man that resound with my heart. I really appreciated your long post.
No, I am not a hero by any stretch. I am not a genius. I have been lucky enough to have the opportunity to find a
little weakness in the game, and the ability to work hard to get advantage on that. I am sure there are other
methods and other players who can do the same.
I do not win enough to make a change in other people's life. It is true though that I will love to do that. My project
about the company is exactly that: build something bigger and give back a part of it to my community. I am not
a greedy person, not at all. I don't want to live in a mansion or buy a big car. I love a comfortable simple life. This
is what I have now.
So yes, I would love to get the opportunity to upscale my business, but concerns me a lot. Something personal
became sort of public, and I am not sure I want it. As I said, I am playing with the idea.
Let's see what will happen.

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346 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 28, 2018, 12:16:48 PM »

Mike, it is nice to see that you are still at square one, with Real.
If the company will open, I will work for some time (let's say three months) with a friend of mine who knows
everything about this (but not how to play Bertrand) and I report every numbers.
I will show the potential investors those numbers, bank accounts, documented proofs (Casino receipts,
expenses, and more) and then will be on them to decide.

When I say it is a serious business project, is exactly what I mean. Please let aside the concept if it works or not.
If I start something like that, with maybe Reyth in the boat with me, playing with me, how long it will take to fall
apart if does not work? Three days? And what was the meaning for all this shenanigans, if last just three days?
Seems you have an habit of missing the point. I work with Bertrand for some years now. If it wasn't good how
can be still working?
I don't need simulation, I have hundreds of notepad of real spin with real winnings in my studio. Yesterday I
worked for three hours in a casino near me, and the longest game was 38 spins, I won 8 units in that singular
session, and 77 units overall, with a maximum exposition of 203 units (was quite an unusual game). The game
ended at the last spin at the first recovery level (I remind you there are 4 levels. I never reached the forth level
in years). I played airball machine, as always, and I was the only player.
If you cannot recognize what sounds true from what doesn't, is not my fault.

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347 Questions and Answers / Re: What is your goal when you go to casino?
« on: March 27, 2018, 11:45:20 PM »

Giajjenno, I think he got a point. You cannot refer to something you do not know. I appreciated your trust in my
words (and I can say you are right) but it is a very weak position in an argument.
On the other hand, double zero said that no matter what you say, he won't believe you. This is not only a weak
position, but is pure nonsense. If you start a discussion assuming that the other one is lying, what the meaning of
the discussion, what the purpose of this waste of time?

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348 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 27, 2018, 11:40:20 PM »

Sorry, I misunderstood. I am not so technological, I guess.

My nickname in Italy was Renaissance Man, because I am good in several different field (art, writing, sculpting)
and as an avid reader and curious about almost everything, I have some knowledge in a wide variety of topic,
from History to Philosophy, from Medicine to Cuisine. Now I realize maybe they meant I am a little outdated...

Consider that I do not trust online playing, even with real wheel. I prefer the physical presence at a b&m casino.
But nothing is written in stone about that.

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349 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 27, 2018, 10:12:54 PM »

I will not do a video. I do not want to share my system. The only way I can imagine is train 2/3 people that I trust
completely to join me in our visit to casinos.
I would love to meet Reyth though.

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350 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 27, 2018, 04:03:45 PM »

Scepticus is right, Kav. Did I violated the code of the forum?

I did not mean to sell anything. I sure do not sell my Bertrand. But, in a way, I am selling something.
If, in any way, this thread is against forum's rules, I will cancel it right away, or you can do now.

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351 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 27, 2018, 02:34:08 PM »

MickyP, as you can see I am at the very first step of the whole thing. I will start (if it ever will start) with a friend of
mine that I trust completely. Yes, I will strong evaluate any new player joining the team.
Fyodor, I take your words with the maximum respect. Some of your points are crucial, like the reliability of the
team. On the other hand, I am quite confident that my Bertrand will perform as always. I sure will have some
downs, due to inexperience of new players, but that will be balanced by the overall quality of the game.

Scepticus, my big slice is because I own the copyright of Bertrand. Other are just investors, who get back what
they invest, if things goes right, accordingly to their investment.
Let's say I would sell 1 million shares, at $1 each.Maybe I will collect 150.000 $ from several investors, covering
15% of the value. The remain 85% will stay in my hands, available for other investors to join at a later time. I will
never sell more than 49% (I will keep control of the business), but I will also be very transparent about costs,
profits, taxes etc. etc.
This is meant to be a serious opportunity, not a toy game. As Kav pointed out, this is not much different from
stock market and hedge funds play field.
Yes, you need to trust the one who propose the investment (in this case me) or the idea in general. And this is,
for me, one of the crucial point: how can I show you that this can be done without revealing my Bertrand or put
in jeopardy the whole thing?

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352 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 27, 2018, 12:09:55 PM »

MickyP, this is exactly the reason of this idea. I want some people with me because the only way this could work is
to go like two weeks in Vegas, work few hours in a casino, grab some thousands, and move to the next. Will be
way more fun and profitable. The next month will be in AC, or in Connecticut.
All this travels and stays are on the company, so the taxes. The rest is for shareholders, and because I will have a
big slice of it, I will have enough money to be happy if some money goes to others, especially people with me in
the trip.
Yes, they can close doors to people, but you need to provide them a reason. Winning, if not made with illegal
tools, is not enough. They can sure accept few thousands out of their daily profit, I am sure. If not, there are
hundreds casinos out there.
Consider that my Bertrand can be played with all calculation made in your head, if you are trained enough.

Playing in three or four can also have the side effect to play with 100$ chips without crossing the table limit. When
the game becomes tough, you have three player playing the game sharing the bet.
And the hourly gain with 100$ is huge.

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353 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 27, 2018, 01:55:03 AM »

Cht, I know exactly how many units per hour my system gains. And I will always present.
Sure, there is risk to find a cheater, but I do not thnk they will risk a legal cause putting at risk what they gain
inside the "company". This is meant to profit way more than what a single player can get by itself.

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354 Casino Lounge / Re: I am playing with this idea

« on: March 26, 2018, 11:03:49 PM »

Well Reyth, I am way far to that point, if I will ever reach it.

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355 Casino Lounge / I am playing with this idea

« on: March 26, 2018, 10:16:25 PM »

I talked with a couple of guys (and my attorney) about a project that can become reality, if everything goes
smooth and I could collect enough datas.
My idea is to open a company and sell shares of it, and use those resources and some partners to move my
"business" a little forward.
As a public company, I will be protected on the 2 most important aspects (for my point of view): the possible
retaliation from Casino and the protection of my Bertrand.
My attorney told me that a system cannot be considered illegal in any way, not like devices or tools often uses
to detect biases or defects on the wheel, or even to merely calculate odds, so if a casino get upset for taking
out some of their money we have enough to at least counteract that.
I need to register my way of playing, so to make anyone playing with it to sign a non disclosure agreement, a
non infringement copyright whatever (sorry, the legal term is not on my hands yet).
My idea is to hit a casino in 2/3 people, hit hard with 20/25 dollars chips, and bring home 10/15 thousand
dollars a day. With people getting confident with it I plan a lot more. This means I have to pay taxes on those
winning, and after that all shareholders will get their slice accordingly.

As you can see I am at the very first stage of this idea, so every advise, warning, suggestion is very welcome. I
am sure I will receive also some harsh words for this, and sarcasm, but I am ready for this.

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356 Casino Lounge / Re: Let's Talk Experience.

« on: March 09, 2018, 08:59:15 PM »

Experience is the process of learning. You don't get experience just growing old.
You need to fall, to fail, to get to the ground, to hit the rock bottom, and the way you raise yourself up, that's your
experience, that is very limited to that situation that brought you down.
Someone thinks that because his company failed, and he managed to open a new business, he got experience
in every aspect of life. You can see many famous actors or sport champions that, because they had success
despite horrible childhood, against all odds, they think they acquired knowledge on many different fields.

In your example, that man is just experienced in his limited game, and only if he failed till he learned the lesson
about how to play his EC game. As you already pointed out in your question, he knows nothing about other
aspect of the game, the inner field (as always, a good question hide inside itself the correct answer).
Let's say that someone buys a book with a simple method of play. He learn it and apply it for several years, with
an acceptable success. Did he have gained some sort of experience? No, he didn't. The process of building,
testing, failing, tweaking, correcting, and finally apply with success is the full method of "experience gaining".
As you can easily understand, this reasoning is very well, and easily, brought to many topics and threads and
guests here. A random guy who knows, and managed, and maybe have experience on a single aspect of the
game (let's say money management, or bet selection, or discipline), sees himself legitimate to transfer his
supposed experience on other aspects of the game that, actually, he never tried to the full process I described
above.

On the other hand, it is comprehensible that someone who succeed in something, easily sees himself like a
winner in every field, because he wrongly believes his success is on him, because of his winning nature, instead
of a complex net of random situations, lucky encounters, right timing and natural talent.
Roulette, like many other games related to gambling, for example poker, is a universe in itself, where everybody
shows his nature. There are compulsive players who loves to cover the table with chips, and to them even a
perfect winning system will give no good.
I do not know if this reply answer, at least a little, to your question, but if I have to simplify in a single sentence, I
would say that experience his like a scar in your face, a wound you badly fixed by yourself. And proudly tell the
tale how you get that scar.

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357 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: What are the cornerstones of winning at roulette?
« on: March 08, 2018, 02:27:03 PM »

Three most important things in order to win?

Discipline
Discipline
Discipline

The target is in the archer

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358 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: March 06, 2018, 10:28:08 PM »

No kav, is not about my system. Is about concepts, way I used to build systems.
No false expectation. There I'd love to discuss ideas, nothing else.
Thank you

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359 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: March 06, 2018, 01:58:09 PM »

What is sad, from my point of view, is that you are keeping (I am talking to Real and his party) pointing to my
Bertrand, like this is the cornerstone of everything.
Is like I claim to have a Ferrari car, and I walk in a club where car aficionados talks about cars: colors, and
engines, and characteristics, and so on and so forth. Every time I try to say something about a car, not mine but
car in general, one member of the club, all angry, points finger at me screaming: "You cannot say that. Prove you
have a Ferrari and then you can say whatever you want about it. But keep it real, Ferrari car does not exit!" (I know
you are thinking that is a bad metaphor because Ferrari car exists, and you can prove it. But the man in my
example has got a special one, camo painted, that he keeps in the garage and show to anybody because he
considers it too precious. After all, it is just a metaphor...).

In a free forum I can say, you can say, whatever we want. Imagine a world where the only talk possible is the one
approved by some sort of judge. Freedom of speech, freedom of thinking, freedom of debating, should be
granted. I understand you don't like my way of thinking. I think I can live with that. It is just upsetting that you
come in a thread to destroy it without respect of people actually enjoying it, for any reason they may have
(someone came in a Philosophical thread to say we can't talk about philosophy).
I sell snake oil? I do not sell anything. The only thing people will lose reading my posts will be their time, and this
is up to them, not to you.
You are not a guardian, a watchdog of other people's life. I don't understand while you are in this crusade to
deny every opinion that is not yours. It reminds me of some religious fanatics who kills people to save their soul.
Nobody asked you to do that. And I don't think it is a polite behavior. Sure you can do it (freedom) but what you
will have in return will be a fight, and that is absolutely a waste of time and efforts.

I know the challenges you are talking about. The only problem is that I have to reveal Bertrand to got some
money I can easily made in a couple months at the wheel, keeping everything for me. Bertrand is not a magic
trick, so if it goes out there I will lose it (whatever Kav thinks about that, I will never take the chance).

On a side note, I do not thank posts because I check the forum without logging in, and that because is a little
time consuming (consider that I read this forum mostly when I am playing at the casino, to avoid dying of
boredom). Any speculation on that, Jerome, is just a little silly.

Let me explain you how I see this thing. I am naive, sure, and maybe I am dumb as a chair, still I hope I am
entitled to have my vision about things. I have seen enough "miracles" in my life (not of the religious kind) to know
that there is more out there than what everybody can comprehend. (Was this Shakespeare?).
One of the most important things in life is not what to do, but what not to do. What to avoid is the real deal. In
my life I have been unlucky enough to have an abusive and violent father, who send me or my sister or my
mother to the hospital beaten to the ground any other week. So, I decided in my life that I will never be like him, I
will never mimic his behavior, his beliefs, etc. etc. I decided what not to be.
I decided to not do some kind of jobs, what food to never eat (I never tried drugs because I am the kind of guy
that will fell in it, so to avoid any chance I just declined any single simple form of drug), and so on and so forth.
When I approached the game, I soon realized that if you program a computer to play the game, with all datas,
and statistics, and math, he will decide not to play, because mathematically speaking the game is not beatable.
Because I do not believe in something impossible (remember the thing about miracles?), I decided that I need a
different approach, a different perspective.
Boat can sail against the wind, that seems counter-intuitive. And how many things were considered impossible
but were, in fact, obtainable? You will say, this is different, because math is everything.
Allow me to not agree. In your vision, in your mind, this is all there is. But I do not have your mind, I have mine. I
don't believe that the game is just math. Or, better, I think there is a way to sneak around it and I believe I can find
it with a trial and error process. I thought "Nothing says a number can get hit 20 times in a row, but it doesn't.
Why?" The game should have "hidden rules" to be found, hidden mechanics to be used.

I like to talk about this things, and I don't understand why this piss you off so much. Your world seems to be a little
2-dimensional. Mine is different, and the judgment on me shouldn't depends on Bertrand. There are some people
that enjoys my posts, probably because of my dumbness or me being naive. I think what they really like is that I
brought a different point of view, like Professor Keating standing up on a desk. They got frustrated by some
restrictions they found in the game and now they can dream of an escape road.
It does not exit, you say? What can go wrong trying? My claim his not a way to get attentions, or "followers". My
claim is a message of hope. Some people dreamed to reach India sailing to West, some people dreamed that
the color of the skin, or the gender, will not be seen like a defect, or a weakness. Some people dreamed that what
we have and what we are can be improved.
I firmly believe that people should listen different opinions, and pursue the one that fits them the most.

I appreciated your permission to write posts, Kav, but I think that after this long one, where I tried to explain some
things, I will go back in my cave for a while. There is no fun for me to get insulted and offended on a daily base, so
I need some rest.
Thank you for the time you all took to read my mumbling.

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360 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: March 05, 2018, 12:12:30 AM »

This thread was supposed to be about the Philosophy behind my System Building. Has never been about my
System (I can see that the problem is the definition of HG, so from now on my System will be called Bertrand. I
hope no one will have trouble with this denomination. "Do you have an HG?", "No, I don't. I have a Bertrand. Sleep
tight.").

In my mind, this little place was supposed to work like questions and answers, opinions and ideas about the
pillars a system is built upon, like bet selection, money management, strong and weak point... Apparently, people
are no more able to talk to others, they just chat with themselves, using their prejudice ("A system that win every
time does not exist"), their greed ("Why don't share it? You will not lose a cent"), and disrespect (no need to
provide examples of that, this thread has been filled with it).

The thread about my system, with clues and hints, has been created by Reyth. I tried to be helpful there give
some informations (way more than what I planned, and enough to make everybody improve their system, if they
have one, or create one if they don't).

I create 4 thread, if my memory do not fail. A simple system, just to present myself and give something to the
community. Was an average system, with weak and strong point, with an important concept that anybody get,
apparently; Then "A word of encouragement" with me declaring to have a winning system with the intentions to
put everybody in a good and hopeful mood despite many in this forum say otherwise (A system is meant to fail,
don't waste time. Ballistic, AP, those are the way to go!); then I created this thread to respond to a series of
request from very polite people asking for more informations, and a 4th directly connected to this because was
my plan to show how some minor and major tweaks can affect a system.

I do not pretend to be a teacher or a master of some sort. I share with you my experience and my limited
knowledge. I can say I have a way to think the game quite differently from anybody here, and I thought this could
have been valuable. Unfortunately, I love polite, openminded, nice people, because I see myself exactly like this.
Here there are few users that could be described like so.
I don't mind if you are not agree with me, with my thinking, even with my elaborate way of providing
informations (I think you need to learn fishing, instead of providing you of a fish), if you are polite. If you
disrespect me, call me liar or scammer, I am done with you.
As I said, in the last 600 (roughly) visits at the casino I always walked out with a profit (expect a couple of times
as I told already). I don't know how many can say the same. (yeah, you are right, I don't care if you believe it or
not).
You are free to ask any question, as I am free to answer the one I want to. If you want your freedom granted, you
have to do the same with me. If you judge me because I didn't answer to you, well, that's a little arrogant, don't
you think?

Do we need a closed thread to have all of this? I hope is not the case. I still hope people, despite Internet and the
modern era, can behave better and accept other people's rules and ethic.

I think people can learn my Bertrand seeing me playing it, especially if they are educated to the game. I don't
think someone checking the pattern and the way of my betting can understand it, because he/she will not be
able to understand why I raise or lower my bet, increase or decrease the total number played, and the arithmetic
behind each and every step of the game. He/she sure can learn the first 5 bets, because are always the same,
but after that he/she will wander in the wood.

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361 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: March 03, 2018, 10:05:14 PM »

This thing is getting out of hand. Now I answer those three question then I am out.
I already answered 1 and 3. Check my post.
Let say that I will try to keep it in my family. If I will not succeed I will write in my will to send it to Reyth and
Mickyp.
About the team I thought about it. I thought to have an entry fee for a selected number of player.... I guess is in
talos dump thread.
About a book. A succesfull one sells around 100.000 copies (unless is Harry Potter or the last on Trump) with your
rights, around 8% on sell price, you get probably 20 thousand. And you have to pay taxes... No way is more
profitable than my system.

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362 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: March 03, 2018, 07:58:48 PM »

Are you see that you are trying to convince me that my system does not work despite the fact I know it, I played
it for probably 600 days across 5 years, earning hundreds of thousands, without considering the testing
before...?
Honestly, I don't care if you believe me or not. I have no gain if you do and I lose nothing if you don't.
I will not share it. I will keep talking to people who wish to add a different idea in their mind. The way I see it, it is
kind of a gift, because I have nothing to get while others can learn something.

I am sure someone thinks that envy and admirations are the fruits I wanna harvest. I just reminds you all that
nobody knows me and I do not know any of you. 2 days ago even my nationality was a mystery.

Come on guys, stay on the topic.

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363 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: March 03, 2018, 05:38:40 PM »

Luck is always a good reason to justify other people's success...

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364 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: March 03, 2018, 03:28:18 PM »

There is no theoretically limit to see the same number come out 12 times in a round. It just do not happen. Reyth
expressed the concept in a more correct way.
Sometimes I had to wait 340 played numbers to see the first hit. But, in the long run, the wheel turned in a more
average standard. As I said, the trick is the ability to endure all the variance that occurs.
This variance will always be in a mathematical range. I remember a thread about EC, and the challenge to
survive the maximum variance registered (or possible). Was something like 30/70 (I didn't paid to much
attention to that, my bad).
It is exactly that. You must win in the real game, not on a notepad with tailored sequence of numbers that show
your system will fail. There is a hidden truth in reality that we do not know. I rely on that.

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365 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: March 03, 2018, 03:20:24 PM »

I did, Kav, in this sentence: 'I

know that theoretically can bust, I know there is a 0.0001 % of
chance for that, but it won't happen'.

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366 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: March 03, 2018, 02:24:52 PM »

You see, evidences are in front of you. Once casinos learnt that a game can be beaten, they changed rules.
Now, at blackjack, is illegal counting cards, and they have automatic shuffling device for avoid the whole
situation.
I get a living with my system. Makes no sense I put that at risk for people I do not know just to accomplish their
curiosity.

My system is not complicated, does not need huge math skill. It is quite boring, most of the time, and it is easy
for everybody to play it. Has a set of rules written on stone, so no decisions whatsoever during the game. A
robot could play it without trouble. There is not a stop-loss, there is not a bad streak, there is not lucky or
unlucky spin. It just works. I know that theoretically can bust, I know there is a 0.0001 % of chance for that, but it
won't happen, and if it does, I will lose 500 units at the worst, that's is what I won last week. So I will be in profit of
just 50.000 units so far.
Every time I go to a casino I walk out with 200u profit, for a 8/10 hours of play. This has been my reality in the
last 5 years. Your opinions and your knowledge conflict with my real experience, so you think I care about yours
(and others) statements?
I am sure that, if I share the system, at least 5/6 people in this forum will start playing it, and half of them will
share it and in a short matter of time will be public. Jeez, people play systems that makes no sense and lose
every other day, go figure what will happen with a system that actually works.
You can't call me a liar, not even in a very subtle way. You can say that you do not know that a HG can be
possible. That's all. For your knowledge, can't be done. I am sure is not an easy accomplishment what I
achieved, that why it is so precious.
I am sure I am not the only one though. If you are not able to recognize who has a false claim from the one
with a real thing in his hand, you lack of judgment.

My system is simple. I work on statistic, in a way. You should hit a number every 38 numbers played, on
average (double 00 wheel). Sure, if you play 40 numbers, will happen quite often that you miss, but what if you
play 400 numbers, in a various number of spins? and if you play 4000 numbers, in over 200 spins? on average,
you should hit 105. Well, I find a way to win in the situation that, with 4000 numbers played, I need 66 hits.
The secret is keeping numbers down, when you do not win in the firsts spins.
One of my worst game lasted more than 100 spins, with 1400 numbers played (I go with memory, but I still
have the session somewhere if you need exact numbers), and I was down of around 200 units. I didn't reach
level 4 recovery (never reached in 5 years). The vast majority of games (like 90%) end at the first hit or at the
first level of recover. Once a day reaches level 2, and very rarely level 3.
So, I found a way to endure all those spins, that's the secret. I wait till the game turns a little in my favor. Sooner
or later, unless the game is biased, it will happen.

This forum, as I see it, is a place where we share our love, considerations and ideas about roulette. Sharing
systems is a part of it, not the only thing. There are sections where you are allowed to talk about "not roulette
related stuff", so it is highly inappropriate that you say that I can say something and not say something else. If
this is a free forum I can say whatever I want, if I do not offend anyone. I can claim I have an HG, there is no rule
against that (and if there is, it is a quite stupid one). I never tried to sell it (why I should?) so I am not a
scammer, and yes, that would have been a nice reason to kick me out.
I enjoy having a good conversation here. I enjoyed receiving a nice message this morning from a member,
and there are a bunch of people here that brings warm to my heart, so I kept coming. But if I piss you off, Kav, I
say sorry and I walk out. After all, I know I am a guest here.

For who still do not understand why I am here, posting my ideas, I repeat again: I did read many post and
posters that claim an HG cannot exist. Kav is the last one on this list. Because I have an HG I think was good let
people know that that goal can be achieved, especially if you do not listen people telling you you cannot get
that. I am tired of people that say YOU can't do what THEY can't do! Sure is not easy. If it was, casinos were
already closed. But can be done. My hints, sharing my approach, can help you. Worst scenario, they are
useless. You do not waste more than the time you used to read it.

And last, I say to you what I said to Real some time ago. If you think my system cannot exist, I dare you to a
challenge. We go to a casino, with 10.000 dollars. We will give the money to a lawyer. You set the parameters
(how much do I have to win to make you believe my system works). If my system fails, you walk home with
20.000 dollars (yours and mine), if I reach targets you fixed, I will walk home with your money. You will not see
my system, you will not learn it. You will check me playing to be sure I am not cheating (like putting money in
the machine to fake winnings), and that's it.
Sorry for the angry tone, as I said I am an emotional guy (my Italian blood, I guess), and no one can say
something bad about my honor, my moral, and my ethic. No one can never call me a liar.

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367 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: March 03, 2018, 01:57:31 AM »

You are right Kav, there is no need for me to post here, or anywhere for that matter. It is sad that you keep say a
winning system will never exits because it will destroy your limited mind accepting the opposite.
I do not mean to offend anybody. I just say that everything is impossible till someone show that is not. History
is full of example of this.

Enjoy the rest of your journey.

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368 Casino Lounge / Re: The Talos debate

« on: March 02, 2018, 11:50:08 PM »

So, it took me 25 years to find my system, wasting tons of money in the process, time, crazy and sad times...
And now I should give it to everybody, just rewarding your frequentation of a forum. Yeah, make sense...

And, on a side note, once the system go out of my hands will became public in a matter of hours, with
consequences in the way casinos handle the game. Imagine if a thousand people start flooding casinos with a
winning system.

But I am sure that were you the owner of a system that grants you a stable and substancial income, you will
give it to anybody.

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369 Roulette Systems / Re: Intelligent Progression

« on: March 02, 2018, 01:37:21 AM »

I am Italian. Unfortunately my English is not very good, as you all already know.
Anyway, I will be glad to help for translation purposes.

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370 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: March 02, 2018, 12:00:58 AM »

I remember Reyth used an image of a Jellyfish, once, for one of his project/system. That was an appropriate
image for my system. I don't play a decreasing amount of number, but the total of them, and the way of it,
changes during the game, accordingly to the situation I am in.
This flexibility is part of the success of my system, I think.

I don't think there is nothing conceptually wrong in targeting more than a situation, but is not my way of thinking. I
work better when I have just one enemy to defeat, just a single situation to occur, than multiple options
sometimes conflicting one another. As I said, this is my way to think about systems. I am happy if gives anybody
options and thoughts.
The example I gave was just an example. You can have a target completely different, a situation that fits more
your way to play. My intentions was suggesting an approach, not a declared path.
A moving target is still a target, so I don't see anything wrong in it.

Now, what differs my system with others I made is that this one works without flaws since 2012/2013 (was that
winter, I don't remember exactly the first day I played it). And I think the difference is because I exploited a
weakness of the game (a philosophical, structural weakness, not a mathematical one... Or maybe even a
mathematical one, I do not know because my math skill is not so great).
You need to find a concept original, maybe absurd, and put it to test, because in the last few centuries many
attacked the game and lost, so you can consider that all the "basic" principles are already been used. Adding
numbers, law of the third, fibonacci progression, negative or positive progression... You name it. They are all been
tested and failed.
What you wanna find is a undiscovered chart, a hidden passage. Something that take advantage of a rule you
are not aware of. Is like the guy who tried to invent the strongest glue ever, and created post-it, the barely
adhesive piece of paper, so exactly the opposite of what he was looking for. He made his fortune. Will you
consider this a success, or a failure?

Avoid the simple solutions, go original, go crazy, brainstorming. This is my advice, this is my philosophy.

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371 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: February 22, 2018, 12:16:42 AM »

Every system should be built around a target.

What the target is doesn't really matter, and the designation of a target is on player shoulder, rely on his
experience and his way to see the game.
Who spent some time at the roulette wheel, sure noticed something that can be used as a target, for example
the four repetition of the same dozen.

Let's say we accept this as our target. We do not know when or how frequently this situation occurs, but we
reasonably believe that happens often enough to be a valuable information, and a trustfully target.
Now we have to build a system on dozen who will end when that target, that situation, shows up. It is just that.

A system must have a single target in mind, not two or three. We try to survive, playing more or less numbers,
with progression or flat bet, till the situation we fixed as a target will shows up and close our session for us.
Sure, there are target more easy to hit, and some more hard. In the first scenario session will be short, and the
variance will ask us a lot of faith, while the second can be longer, safer sessions, but at the end shouldn't really
matter.

In the system I posted about dozens and column, the target is to have a certain number of repetitions back to
back. We need to survive till this sequence becames effective. Here's the tweak I created to get advantage of
the target without loosing everything before time.
After a hit, I usually raise one unit. If hit again, I keep raising, and when I miss the bet decrease of one unit. If hit,
the next bet will be the highest bet I reached before plus 1.
The sequence will look like
1
1
1
1
1 hit
2 hit
3
2
1
1
1 hit
4 hit
5 hit
6
5
4 hit
7

Hope is clear.

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372 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: February 20, 2018, 09:09:03 PM »

Do not work like that, Jerome.

You are used to a way of thinking, using what you learned or your personal inclination, and they became a
part of you.
At the beginning, you use rules (set limits, think in a original way, if something seem obvious discharge), and
after a while becomes an habit.
I cannot trace back the full thought process that brought me here, at my system. Didn't come to me in a
single shot, but the basic idea is exactly as it was. What changed was some tweaks, some improvements, that
came in several attemps and during time.

What I suggest is to keep a clean approach. It doesn't matter if people says is not possible. Sure is not easy.
Skipping the search because someone says to you you will never reach it, it is silly.
Are they so sure to have all the answers, all the knowledge? They have not. Do not matter how many years of
experience they claim, what PhD or piece of paper they hang on their wall. If they say "Cannot be done" just
smile and walk your way. The world is full of people ready to tell you you cannot get what they are not able to
get.

My system is bulletproof. It is 4 years that is bulletproof. Have gone through live dealer and airball machine,
and never failed. They say is not possible? I see. I will think of them every time I walk to the bank.
All suggestions and technics I post here will make you create a winning system? I do not know. I try to give you
the best options, and tools, I have to get that result. Now is up to you.
There are 2/3 little things to add, and than I will leave room for your questions if you have some.

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373 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: February 16, 2018, 09:05:09 PM »

As you sure remember, MickyP, I wrote about the psychology of the player, and how must be the first value to
be protected and improved.
For my way of being, a system that "sometimes" loses break any confidence I have in the system. I cannot
play it any further, no matter if I have won tons before. I am just out of that game.
Every little bad bounce of the ball, every longer session, every situation that before the loss would have been
just normal routine, in my eyes would became just steps to the inevitable second loss, and then third...

As for any technics (stop loss, virtual betting, trigger, VB) I cannot say one is bad and one is good. I have too
much respect for everyone trying to find his way. Because the approach of the game is personal, you must
understand what fits your persona and what does not. The 4 I mentioned above are not my style. Is not my
style rely on single number (like a lucky magical spin that resolves the game).
I prefer to have a session that is always possible to be closed in few shots, and if not happens nothing wrong
and just keeps the negative low, so to wait few more spins and wait for your numbers to hit. Sooner or later will
happen, is not possible otherwise.
I think progression is important (but not the most important) and I use it. There are some other concepts quite
useful, but I am sure not for everybody.
That why I do not want to give easy recipes (after all, I have just one, my system, and I am not planning to
reveal it), but food for thought, hoping someone can get a benefit from it.

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374 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: February 16, 2018, 02:43:55 PM »

One of the limits I think work best is the number of spin for session.
Let say we wanna play for 10 spins. We need to find a solution to have a profitable session with just this few
outcomes. We have to play more number than less, for example, and with a tight aggressive approach.
On the other hand, it is hard that things goes out of hands, that the bankroll needed is relevant, and that the
boring aspect of play a system implies: you play a little and then take a walk.

My system is not like that. I don't care how much it last, important is it ends up positive. Most of the sessions are
quite short, but sometimes happen to wait 50/60 spins to end it.
One of the limit is "no stop loss". If it will fail, I will sink with it. To make the system working, I need to keep the
balance throughout the game at the low possible level.

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375 Roulette Systems / Re: System on dozens and/or columns

« on: February 15, 2018, 09:09:57 PM »

I will post the tweak when I reach that point in my other thread about how I do my systems.

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376 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: February 15, 2018, 09:04:55 PM »

De Bono gives a lot of good approaches of thinking, despite the subject, and I always thought should have
been taught at school.
He is famous for a couple of technics (thinking hats and parallel thinking) and a bunch of experiment. I wanna
talk about one of the latter.

De Bono grouped a bunch of high school student in a room, with a task to accomplish: they have to cross the
room from one door to another without touching the floor and in the least amount of time. He gave them
wooden boards, ropes, a ball, few other objects.
All of them tight boards on their feet, and they walked to the other side. They do the task with similar time.
Then, he remove objects till one boards and twigs left. The solution was using one board and jump to the
other side. The time used was considerably less, but no one thought of this solution at the beginning. Why?

Because our mind try to use all is in his availability. If it doesn't, mind thinks to loose options.
How can I use this in my systems? Taking out options. I do an example.

I never wanted to use a huge bankroll. Back in my days you do not have all the options we got today (online,
airball machine, rng), so if you wanna play you have to walk to a table where the minimum chip value was 10
Dollars (was 10.000 lire in Venice, I "translated" to be more clear), and if you plan to have a bankroll of 2000
units you need to bring 20000 dollars with you. Not possible. Moreover, I am quite emotional, and betting 3/4
hundreds bucks in a twin, for example, is just not me.
So, my first rule was fix a limit of the bankroll needed for a system. I fixed 500, with a system that ask for 250
units (I always consider that I will need double the amount my testing shows, for good measure).
Now, 250 units for a working system seems very low. In this site you can find many system who requires dozen
of thousands to work (I understand you can play with 0.1 cents, but still).
Believe it or not, I found many system that keep working with this limits. Not all of them good system, but on
the other hand have a bigger bankroll don't grant you any more success.
On the side, let's put the situation where the machine broke, or you have to leave the game for any reason.
What you loose is not a big deal, you can easily gain back it the next day.

I set many other limits to my game, but this is just to express the concept. Set limits, especially in areas you fill
not confortable with (never play single numbers, or play just single numbers, you name what) and you will be
surprise how your mind can find solutions.

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377 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: February 13, 2018, 03:00:15 AM »

I did not say that the paradox can be of any use in the roulette game. What this thread is about is how I make
my system, where I can find ideas and how I apply those. I hope this can help someone expanding a little bit
his way of face the challenge.
I am not a mathematician, so I need a different approach. I always find more interesting working with oblique
thinking, like one of the guy I admire most, and about who I will talk in the next post: Edward De Bono.

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378 Roulette Systems / Re: System on dozens and/or columns

« on: February 13, 2018, 01:46:49 AM »

Two things.
First, I never judge system I did not play or test, like Palestis' one. I respect the hard work of everybody.
Second, I do not like triggers, never used and I guess I never will. As other things, they do ot sound me right so I
avoid the whole concept. I can be wrong. I am sure I am

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379 Roulette Systems / System on dozens and/or columns

« on: February 12, 2018, 01:34:17 PM »

As I posted in the gambling Philosophy section, this system of mine had performed quite well, and originated
with the Monty Hall paradox in mind.

The selection can be made on dozens or columns, or both. I used to play both in the same time using a
notepad to keep track of numbers and totals. To simplify I show how to play with dozens, you can mirror it for
the columns.

I play the last two dozens that got hit, avoiding the late one. I will use a positive progression, adding one every
time I got one hit. I will add one to both dozens.
Example (actual play at b&m casino)

15
19
11 (started play now, betting one chip on 2nd and one chip on 1st dozen), total betting -2
34 betting 2, total -4
19 betting 2, total -6
13 hit, win 3, betting 4, total -7
36 hit, win 6, betting 6, total -7
16 hit, win 9, total +2. Session ended. Start betting 2, total -2
10 betting 2, total -4
3 hit, win 3, betting 4, total -5
29 betting 4, total -9
12 hit, win 6, betting 6, total -9
16 betting 6, total -15
22 hit, win 9, betting 8, total -14
19 hit, win 12, betting 10, total -12
6 hit, win 15, total +3. Session ended. Start betting 2, total betting -2
13 betting 2, total -4
33 betting 2, total -6
27 hit, win 3, betting 4, total -5
16 hit, win 6, total +1. Session ended. Start betting 2, total betting -2
25 hit, win 3, total +1. Session ended.

You got the idea. The goal is to have a series of winnings in a row, relying on the fact that we play 24 numbers
out of 37/38.

I added a tweak after few weeks of playing to solve the problem for the sessions with many loss-loss-win-loss-
win-loss-win... This situation of alternate winning and loss can be the nail in the coffin of the system, as you can
easily imagine.

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380 Gambling Philosophy / Re: How do I make my systems?

« on: February 12, 2018, 01:05:21 PM »

At a certain point, I stumble across the Monty Hall Problem. A brief summary for who do not know it.

You have three doors. Behind one you have a car, the other two have a goat.
You pick a door. After your pick one of the other door is revealed, showing a goat.
Now the question is: you stay with your pick or you switch to the other unopened door?
Here's the paradox. If you switch, you win 50% of the time, while if you stay with your original pick you will win just
1/3 of the time.

It is counter intuitive, but it is easy to understand how it works. If you switch you choose among two, if you don't
you stick with your choice among three.

Now, how I used it in my system making process? Bet selection.

I started working on columns and dozens, because my simple mind found it perfectly fit with the three door
option. One of the three dozen will be late, will become sooner or later a sleeper, so I will not bet on it.
I tried several time to work on repeater or on casual selection, and I always found the the repeater will have a
shorter session then a casual one, or way shorter if you compare with a cold one.
In the last situation, you chase the sleeper, and sure as hell you'll find it, destroying your bankroll.

So, what I found out many years ago is to work with repeaters, no matter if they are single numbers, dozens,
corners or whatever.

I will post in the system section the system originated with this thinking. Was very profitable for a long time,
especially with a tweak I made later on.

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381 Gambling Philosophy / How do I make my systems?

« on: February 11, 2018, 10:32:37 PM »

Probably I should have done this long ago. Probably because of my laziness I followed Reyth thread about my
system and gave some hints there, instead of pushing one on my own.
Here I will provide some thought about how I see the game, how I approach it, how I create my systems
(during the years has been many, and even if the vast majority of them were not winning ones, they did taught
me lessons, especially about what I should pursue and what was not worthy to be elaborate any further)

Will not be all in one shot. I will post here more and more, try to answer your questions at the best of my
possibilities. Because I will not talk about my system, but about ideas in general, I found appropriate to post it
in the Philosophy section. Everybody is more than welcome to share their thought on my ideas, as this forum is
all about, hoping for courtesy and respect (too much to ask?). I say sorry in advance if some of my ideas are
very well known by some players and they get bored by it.

Let's start saying that I do not trust online casinos and RNG. Why? because I think that the first is rigged and the
second is just a slot who can determine the outcome accordingly. I do have proof of that? No, I don't. Do I have
proof that airball machines or live table are perfectly trustfully? No as well, just seems to me that are harder to
manipulate.
Why this specifications? Because you need to be comfortable playing. If you do not trust the machine, you will
fail, you will loose money because you will make the fail to happen. Is a prophecy self-realizing.
Easy to understand how it works: if there is a strange patterns of outcomes in a live roulette, your mind will see
it just a coincidence, while if this happens in a RNG who you fear can be manipulated, you will perceive it has a
proof of your worst concerns came into reality.
Because the psychology of the player is the most important thing in the game, you must start from this.
Pay attention how much Casinos try to work with your mind and your weaknesses: no clock at the walls, no
windows, free drink and stay, very noisy slot machines for winning and bonuses, loud celebration of other
people winnings... all is made for you to loose your focus. Even the switch from money to chips, or to tickets, is
to help you waste more money: put a twenty dollar bill on a table is way harder than putting a green chips.

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382 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Mechanical vs Nonmechanical systems

« on: February 11, 2018, 08:40:58 PM »

In my opinion, a system that works is one that is done without guessing of any sort, that works in a very
predictable way and bring the same result every time.
It doesn't have to make you wonder what to do. Its rules are set when you start playing, when you are testing it,
and when you are coding it. All possibilities must be covered. Even the profit must be always the same, with a
small variance due to a "lucky" or "unlucky situations" (if my system wins 25 units an hour, I consider it safe if
sometimes wins 23 units an hour, or 26. I will consider the system not bulletproof if this variance is too high).
Every system can be improved, sure, but with testing and new upgraded rules, not because of the feeling of the
moment.
I know that the common believes is that such a system do not exist, and is known that I think otherwise. Is not
what I wanna affirm.
For a system to be called like so must be very predictable, no brainer at all, so me and you, with the same
system, at the same table, will we play exactly the same. If you use your experience, at the table, or your intuition,
you are not playing a system, but a strategy, at best.

I would love to explain better how to approach the creation of a system that works. if this cold keeps me chained
at home sure I will.

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383 Casino Lounge / Re: Would you still post?

« on: February 10, 2018, 01:52:25 PM »

Many reasons to keep checking a forum like this one.

First, because it is entertaining. Here's a gathering of people with the same "obsession" as me who chat and
discuss about a very interesting topic, revealing themselves, their flaws and weaknesses, their hopes and their
enthusiasm. Is like a microcosmo of a society, with roles so well depicted; the wise, the troll, the leader, the
follower, the curios, the psycho, the scammer, the dumb, the reporter, the friend of all, the lunatic, and so on and
so forth.
Second, because I always find amusing trying to use the same concept I successfully developed in a even more
profitable way. After all, the one I use now is not the one I used years ago (although that one was a winning one).
Some little tweaks had improved it, and an important one of that tweaks came after reading about a system
idea here. I found it worthy and I adapted it into mine. There's is nothing in this world that cannot be perfected.
One of the problem I always had is that I am an emotional guy, so for me a system that needs a huge bankroll or
high amount of chips in a single shot is not my cup of tea. The struggle for me has always been a system with
low requirements, while for other can be no need for calculations or you name what (I always suggest to work
around your weakness, not your strong point. At the end will be your weak spot to fail you down). Bringing down
the bankroll has been my goal, and I keep trying to lower it further.
Third, as I said many times, encourage with my experience others to pursuing their dream to be consistent
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384 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Facts Versus Fiction

« on: February 05, 2018, 11:27:46 PM »

I have said it many times; I encourage people to find a system that works on their own, despite the fact that
people like you tells them all the time that this result cannot be achieved.
I hope for them to succeed. If this is my crime, I plea guilty.

And with that, I no longer care to answer you. I hope you'll find the way to go where I am, politely, sending you.

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385 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Facts Versus Fiction

« on: February 05, 2018, 10:23:04 PM »

I am selling nothing, and this is something you cannot say...

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386 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Facts Versus Fiction

« on: February 05, 2018, 08:50:59 PM »

No one is debating math. I am debating the use of it.

I have number 10 and number 4. Between them I can write a +, a -, a X and the final result differs. (14, 6, 40,
respectively, so you know at least the basic math I do know...)
What you do not comprehend, Real, is that with the same postulation we can reach different outcomes,
depends the way we use numbers.
Numbers used to build pyramids were the same used to go to the moon with a rocket.

I do not believe in triggers, but I do not call stupid or fools who wait for a trigger to bet. This is called respect.
Real show no respect for anyone whose not in the same boat of his, and this is sad.
In a forum, I say it one more time, I think everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but no one has the right to
patronize or belittle others. I found my way to the game, Real his way, and many other their own, and every one of
them deserve respect. Call people liar, scammer, delusional is just rude.
I know the world works like that (look at the President we have...), but for a man my age is just bad to see that
even when the target is common, like the one in this little community, instead of working together we try to push
others over the cliff, or we try to drag them on our path.

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387 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Facts Versus Fiction

« on: February 05, 2018, 01:15:40 PM »

One day a young Guglielmo Marconi talked to his teacher, Professor Righi, about the idea to send
electromagnetic waves to communicate with America. The professor said "Get out of my class before I kick
your ass".
They asked to the most trusted source of knowledge about that, Mr. Poincaré, who said: "Maybe Marconi thinks
the Earth is flat. We should inform this young lad that is a globe in the space, ahahahah! Foolish."
Because, you know, electromagnetic waves goes in straight direction. You can cross a hill, but nothing more
than that.
Marconi hadn't a degree in Physic. Was a ignorant in the field, but lucky him his mother had plenty of money,
and he could set up a couple of antennas, one in England and one in Terranova. With much surprise for
everybody else, they get a signal, the transmission worked.
What Marconi, and other, didn't know back then was that the Ionosphere would bounce the electromagnetic
waves so to allow the signal to circle the globe.
Marconi get a Nobel Prize for physic, without getting a degree in physic, and we got radio.

Even in my broken English, I hope you all could understand the story (a true story) and the moral. The same
story can be told about many many situation where who thinks that knows everything and patronize other end
up making a fool of himself.
Who really knows stuff is humble, because he understand that what he knows is just a part of a wide universe
of unknown. Nobody has any right to destroy other people search. Doing that just proves that his wisdom and
kindness his not very high, and from a person like this there is nothing to learn.

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388 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 03, 2018, 06:57:06 PM »

My intentions has never be give away a system. I was so pissed that people took the time to patronize system's
makers, belittling them in order to promote their ideas and their vision of the game that I just put my personal
experience as an hope.
I don't care if people believes me about my system. That's up to them. I am quite happy to cash constantly
money in the last years, and to get a decent living with the roulette. I wished to encourage others to keep
pushing their limits, to find a way, their way, to fulfill their dreams, to conquer their Eldorado.
If they reach a result, they will be happy and proud, if not they will have learned a lot about the game and
themselves.

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389 Gambling Philosophy / Re: Can we unlearn things that limit us?
« on: February 03, 2018, 06:51:35 PM »

What we know (on each topic in our life) is in the same time what give us power and what limits us. Roulette is no
difference.
If we use what is considered 'true', and 'undebatable', as a barrier, we will never cross that border. And this is
especially true if we use someone else knowledge to limit our 'vision'.

I always thought that life is an artistic experience, and we are unique artists. We should try and fall and rise again
trying one more time till we find a solution, even if we do not understand how this works, how everything works.
After all, gravity works even for people who do not know what gravity is.
On the other hand, a ship that sail the sea can go against the wind, and this is quite contrary of the perception
we have about reality.

We should always approach the roulette with a white board in our mind. Try a solution, discharge and try again,
till we find a solution, an answer that works for us, for our style, for the time and the money we have, something
that fit our personality. I appreciate who got a scientific approach, and I love who got a creative approach. What
shouldn't be done is a scientific guy who tries to belittle the creative one, or the artist who makes fun of the smart
ass.
We should learn respect of other people approaches and attitudes, because from the invention of the wheel
(read it as it pleases you) many "ignorants" found solutions while scientists were wandering in the dark, and all
the way around.

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390 Casino Lounge / Re: The hidden truth about casinos.

« on: January 31, 2018, 12:26:43 AM »

I have been kicked out from a couple of b&m casino, back in the days, in Europe. The formula they used was that
"professional" gambler weren't allowed. Were very small establishments and they did run on a very low profit
margin, so I think They just wished to have slot players and regular, well known, roulette players.
What you fear, though, as a system player, is not to be kicked out, or banned by a casino because of your
winning, but to be checked by other players, or generally speaking other guests, from gold diggers to thieves: a
pretty lady starting to buzz around you is not welcomed, so aren't people following you on your way to the
parking lot.

Casino's will not fear system people as long as they play losing systems, or something that once in a while fails. I
think they see and check players who get the seat every other week with a new way of playing, sure of the final
result. A consistent and heavy winner will not be very appreciated (but I guess, in big casino, tolerated).

For me, I always try to keep a low profile, few days here and there and a fixed amount to cash out. No reward
cards, no cashiers, no frills. I also play some slots with part of the winning, seems to me it helps.

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391 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: January 16, 2018, 05:31:20 PM »

There are two kind of people in the world; To the first kind you have to tell everything

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392 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: January 15, 2018, 07:40:57 PM »

well, I thought was clear from the very beginning that I do not plan to reveal the secret of it, not for free or
payed. I have no interest on doing so.
I think you had some very good answers, very good ideas and some new paths to follow. My intentions was to
give everybody a boost to find a solution of the dilemma, as I did. And, because I do not consider myself the
smartest tool in the box, I think some of you can find a way.

The only way to achieve that (other than connect all clues and hints of this long thread) is start with the idea
that not all that there is to know is already known. I suggest an empirical approach to find a backdoor to crack
the game. If you start with the same point of view of others, you will follow paths already fully explored.
Pure math says the HE cannot be beaten? Well, maybe there's another way, a creative one to bypass that rule
we don't like.

May the game work for you, not the other way around. You decide how much you wage, Which numbers to
choose, when to start and when to stop. The only things the game does is spinning a ball on a wheel, and tell
us the outcome. You all have so much things you can do against this enemy!

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393 Roulette Systems / Re: Why Does Your System Win

« on: September 21, 2017, 12:10:03 PM »

Sorry for the long absence. A friend of mine successfully convinced me to join him in a new adventure, and it
took tons of time from me. I managed to connect once in a while, at least to answer to messages and see what
is trending here now, but not much more than that.
I see that the quest is still strong, with many good ideas and some of the usual refrains that spots every
thread. I am sorry that I cannot contribute much for now.
I think is more than a month that I didn't walked into a casino. Quite a record for me.

What I meant in my post is that many good systems suffer for the need of the player to include the just
occurred situation they witnessed in a game. They tweak and tweak because their perception of the game is
too fluctuant. And to accomodate the new change they transform a little their system, and little by little the
system they play is not even close to the starting one, in his basic principle.
They complain that what they tested at home doesn't work in the casino, and they claim bias and tricks, while
they tricked themselves because of the lack of faith in their work.

When someone here reads that a perfect system does not exist, what that really happens is the undermining
confidence of a player. During the game, the ball skip a pocket and the player sees his doubt grow and grow.
The "Perfect system does not exist" song start pumping in his head and he is doomed.
People must be encouraged to try, not to follow other people believes.
The world would be a much nicer place if everybody will pay attention to this, on this topic or others.

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394 Roulette Systems / Re: Why Does Your System Win

« on: September 18, 2017, 08:12:51 PM »

Because I stick to it.

It is harder than someone can imagine.
You have always the temptation to "improve" it, or to include good ideas from other systems you see or create,
especially when you just start playing it and you are not 100% confident it will really work.

I think many good systems die in the cradle, in the hands or player not really disciplined.

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395 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 19, 2017, 10:01:22 PM »

Sorry, I think I messed up a little. Here's the correct sequence, with the informations in the exact place meant.

18
23
4
24
28
0
15
30
20
30
15
00
25
5
30
35
15
18
32
23

At this point 258 numbers played, 3 hits

15
34
11

35
24
2
13
16
29
21
21
2
24
9

Played at this point 438 numbers, and 3 more hits. Exposure at 119. At this point, if I hit one more number in the next 10
spins, the game is over. Didn't happen.

8
24
11
14
1
26
21
8
14
11
9
11
1
5
17
10
16
11
22
33
33

This section added 168 numbers played, and granted me some more hit. Outstanding balance at this very point is 140.

16
27
00
34
20
9
36
22
5
32
36
6
4
6

Exposure at 162 now.

3
10
23
14
19
35
6
13
35
00
9
29
17
25
21
21

Was at this point playing SU numbers? No, I was not. How many more spins could have wait for one more hit if 21 would
have not come? More than a dozen.

If you don't find why I play a certain amount of numbers, solving the progression used this time will be worthless. My
progression adapts to the game, and the total numbers played and the units played at every steps are different,
especially when the game is so long.
I don't want to discourage anyone, just want to remind you to find your own way.
The concept of a divisor is strong, and the few suggestions I gave (keep the bet at the minimum, play the most numbers
you can, don't follow numbers, just the bankroll) will do the trick.

Jerome thinks I want you to work for me. That's is not true. If I don't have already a system, how can I guide you through
all this chances? The next week I will cross the 600K $ won in USA, with 00 wheel. I really don't need anything else.
I keep making some small changes to the system, because the more spins I play the more I find way to use what I have.
The major change is in the recovery section, but there are little things here and there too. This doesn't means Reyth's
canons are no more valid, though. Some informations are, like the longest game or the average profit, and the total
bankroll. These changes do not affect my system, because you have to consider that only 3 games out of 100 goes
longer than 10 spins.
Can blow out? Why not, everything can happen at the wheel. If happens, I will loose 1% of what I get so far, so who cares
(but I don't think it will happen in my lifetime, like I will not see the same number out for 6 times in a row).

I will be traveling for a couple week, so if I cannot answer don't get mad.

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396 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 17, 2017, 09:19:40 PM »

I absolutely do not want people play like me, that is for sure!

Between the lines, I already said in a very subtle way what's the weakness of the wheel.

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397 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 17, 2017, 07:47:31 PM »

Juice you are absolutely on point, but you have to consider the whole picture. Take for example the last morning I
had. I played for 2 hours, for a total of 91 spins. I completed 67 games, for a total won of 83 units (a little above
average) with a maximum exposure of 45 units. In 5$ chips is 415$ in 2 hours risking 225$ at the worst moment.
I was home for lunch, called it a day.

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398 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 16, 2017, 01:43:46 PM »

Jerome, you all are moving in directions that not always follow my system but it is ok as long as gives you a good
way to play.
Some assumptions are incorrect, and that is way I gave you those hints (as I always write, you need to find the
right idea to proceed in my way, finding my system. Otherwise you will have another one, maybe better than
what I use, who knows). I left you enough room to wander in possibilities. If my hints could bring you just to my
system, I will wrote it down for you in the first place, without all this wonderful thread.

Kav, is there an award for the most intriguing thread? If yes, I guess Reyth deserves it!

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399 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 16, 2017, 01:38:35 PM »

Just a little clarification.

When I wrote "I don't play even chances" I meant my system is not a even chances game, like a martingale on
red and black. I do play EC when the system ask for it.
Probably you already get it, but has been pointed out so I wished to be clear on that.

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400 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 12, 2017, 02:05:38 AM »

You are right, my bad. I was stuck in my mind with your comprehension of my system that was:

"So I have worked out the clues you gave and I concluded that you start by betting 1 corner, then 2 corners, then 3
corners, then 4 corners, then 5 corners."

Probably I was just reminding the idea of playing 4 numbers (if with corners, as I understood, you mean a quad)

Still keeping my suggestion, though.

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401 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 12, 2017, 01:18:13 AM »

mail from you March 2016

"if you divide 1000 units by 256 spins you bet something less than 4 units per spin."

I suggest to finish this here, and if you want to proceed I suggest you to use my private email, you already have
my address. We are annoying people here.

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402 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 12, 2017, 12:39:34 AM »

You inaccurately stated that I tested my system for 1000 spins before playing it. Is not important how much I
tested it, it is important that you said one thing not true.
The 1000 spin was just to test if my opinion that the selection wasn't important was true or not, not about the
validity of the system.

You claimed several time, in the last year, to have completely understood my HG. You talked about my
selection, that I play four numbers for 256 spins, that I add a quad with every spin, and so on and so forth. You
never been even close to my system, and you still say you got it. Wasn't true one year ago, is not true now.

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403 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 11, 2017, 11:55:38 PM »

BlueAngel, Angelo Attoni, don't say stupid things. You very badly interpreted your way a personal
communication we had. To make people understand, I copied and paste what I said to you almost a year ago.

"I recorded a session of 1000 spins. I tried on that 8 different selection strategy, and all of them had similar
result. Sure, games were different one another (some shorter, some longer) but the overall result and the
average wins were very similar (two different selections had the same exact winning, how is that?)."

As everyone can easily understand, was an answer to your claim that the selection was everything and the
progression a part of it. Many times I said that the selection is not important, important is the total number
played each time (Reyth got this concept perfectly).

Unfortunately for you I keep track of everything I do (I have too much paper and archives in my house, ask my
wife).
By the way, I will never use part of our private communication to put you in a bad light, it is not my style.

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404 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 11, 2017, 11:04:28 PM »

Beg your pardon, BlueAngel, but I am not sure to completely understand your claim.

You say you have three winning systems, and you already understood my 2 (?) systems, without proving to
anyone any of this statement. If you already understood my system, just send me a message explaining what's
the idea behind it (without revealing the system you found, just show me you got something), and I can follow
your claim here.
I think Reyth has already closed your claim, and in a very elegant way if I can say.

Generally speaking, I can't accept a system that "sometimes" fails. It breaks my nerves, my attitude, my trust.
Once a system fail is already gone forever.
About my 2 systems, it is just one, with a small change I did in the recovery section (probably I already
mentioned that) because in so many spins never occurred to cross some boundaries (Do I really need to be
covered for 263 spins when never crossed 100?) so I shortened a little to a more aggressive recovery. This has
lowered the bankroll needed (I am at 500) that is exactly double the amount I consider safe, as is my habit.

When I play, I put 250 units (were 300) in the machine, and I play for 4/5 hrs straight, then I go home. I find this
way more manageable for me. I am always ready to put more units in it, but in the last month never happened
(previously has happen way more frequently).
The price of this change is the overall profit of the system (it lowered down a little), but I solved it playing a
"mirror" version of it in the same time. That force me to use paper and pen to track the game, but for now it is ok. I
guess I am getting too old to remember everything and calculate everything on the spot.

I have to admit that the perception of the game changed recently, after the opening of my company. Maybe I
am just more relaxed, maybe I am just happy (and money from casino helped but are not all of it).
Probably, the fever now took out the best part of me, the extrovert... who knows.

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405 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 11, 2017, 07:47:18 PM »

BlueAngel, what you found is your own personal intellectual property, so you can dispose of it anyhow you want.
You do not own me anything, either if you found my system or developed a new one that works.

I can only tell you if you found mine or a new one. You can post here or send me a PM, as you wish.

Jerome, if you plan to have a business relation, you must find a solution that is equable profitable for both sides.
When you buy a intellectual property, not a thing or similar, you have to offer some warranties, something back. I
vague promise of percentage is not enough.
I didn't say I will accept, but at least I will consider it. Is like my Asian guy: he offered 5000$, I couldn't be
interested, but a real offer probably I would have considered the deal (that's is what I told him, after I said how
much can be profitable my system).

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406 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 11, 2017, 05:38:04 PM »

Reyth, there is a repetion of 11 numbers (from 30) to 40) ) and four numbers out of the blue you need to wipe
out of the sequence (22 - 5 - 32- 36). So the total number posted should be 85. The first number is my starting
point, so I played 84 spins, from the number 23 to the number 21.

I hope it is clear now.

We had a meal together, and after that we parted ways. He got my numbers I got his. I suppose he will raise his
offer, just to get a new dinner...

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407 Casinos Online and... Offline (reviews) / Re: NetEnd Live roulette fairness in doubt
« on: March 11, 2017, 05:25:28 PM »

That is exactly why I don't trust online gambling...

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408 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 11, 2017, 05:23:02 PM »

And, for the rest, a nice, polite question is more likeable to be answered than an arrogant, rude accusation.
If you call me a liar or a scammer, you will not get much help from me, but if you are nice and correct, I am
more inclined to help you. This is common courtesy, am I right?

Yes, I really want you to succeed, but not all of you. There are lazy people who do not deserve anything else that
their own misery, while other can build their own system and be successful. I believe in awards for whom
deserves it. I sure will not get poorer giving my system for free, but why I should do that? Apple doesn't give
phones at a lower price despite his incredible cash and value, and sure you do not expect that your doctor or
lawyer, who are already richer than me, give you advices and helps for free, so why do you ask me for that.

Last week an Asian guy offered me 5000$ cash for my system, at the casino. I refused, of course, and I offered
him a dinner instead, and we parted ways I don't say as friends, but on the road to be. Isn't this better?

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409 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 11, 2017, 05:12:39 PM »

Sorry guys, I didn't meant to do that. Probably sneezes and copy and paste don't work well together.
As you can see there is a section pasted twice.

In the Reyth counting, from number 30) to 40) are not valid, are just a repetition of the previous section, and
number from 62) to 65) I have no idea where they came from, and the total should be 84 number played (the
first number listed is not played, is where my counting starts).

I really apologize for the confusion.

MOD EDIT: Updating the record now. No evidence left of any error. Thanks!

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410 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 11, 2017, 02:22:44 PM »

I cannot show you a game of mine because is like showing you my system. I can give some datas, though, to
get you some parameters.

The worst game I had so far reached spin 84, had a maximum exposition of 182 units and a final profit of 16.
This is the most long exhausting game and has been due to my recent change in the recovery progression.

the sequence was

18
23
4
24
28
0
15
30
20
30
15
00
25
5
30
35
15
18
32
23

At this point I had played a total of 258 numbers with just 3 hits

15
34
11
35
24
2
13
36
29
21
21
2
24
9
8
24
11
14
1
26
21
8
14
11
9

now the number played are 438, with 3 more hits, the exposition is at 119. At this point I have ten more spins to
get a hit to close the game. Unfortunately didn't happen.

8
24
11
14
1
26
21
8
14
11
9
11
1
5
17
10
16
11
22
33
33

More 168 number played, and few more hits. I am now out of 140 units.

16
27
00
34
20
9
36
22
5
32
36
22
5
32
36
6
4
6

Exposition at 162

3
10
23
14
19
35
6
13
35
00
9
29
17
25
21
21

the repetition of 21 closes the game for me.

I played 724 numbers to hit 11 numbers. I was at the third step of my recovery, and I have four levels of it (I never
reached the fourth so far).
In the third level, in the moment I hit, I had like 20 more spins to get one hit, so I was pretty comfortable that my
game was near to the end.

There are tons of informations here, for good ears...

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411 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 10, 2017, 10:39:28 PM »

Jerome you are right. I changed a little bit the recovery part, to make it more fast to play and a little shorter,
that brought me to some games that could finish with a 0 (it is a very unusual combination of hits) and to a
maximum profit of 17 (even this one is a very unusual situation).
Most of the time my profit is from 1 to 11.

One of the things I needed to adjust was to bring with me less money. 1400 units of 10$ are a sum I don't want
to go with, and if to this you add the money I will win, you can see that is too much. I tried to cut the maximum
exposition to 500 units, because in years I never crossed some limits.

(Can you say that I get a terrible cold today and I am stuck in front of my computer, don't you?)

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412 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 10, 2017, 07:27:17 PM »

Sometimes, Jerome, the answer is just inside the question.

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413 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 10, 2017, 04:51:48 PM »

Reyth, sometimes I am down of just two units, and I force myself to get a profit every game, so I keep playing.
And, sometimes, to get back those two units I stay at the table 20/30 more minutes to be in profit of 1 or 5 or
more.
If you consider that I could call it a loss of two and because it is so common that the game end at the first
shot (with a +1 profit), in the next two spins I would have been even without putting much chips on the table, at
a better margin in the same amount of time overall.

Juice, I already play the system "double", when I can. For doing that I need paper and pen, because I cannot
keep mentally calculation on both sides (and that why I can make 200 units profit in five hours of play...)

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414 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 10, 2017, 02:26:17 PM »

I am actually using a 5$ units, and cannot do more. It is easy find airball with a small units value (I started with
0.25$ in Atlantic City) but I couldn't find something bigger than a 1$, than means the the maximum amount
playable in, for example, a street is 20$.
As you can easily understand, can happen that I have to play a huge amount in some situations, so I cannot
start with a 10$ value because I will cross the limits quite soon, making impossible my system to be played.

This been said, you can understand that I can make roughly 1000$ a day, "working" 8 hours a day, in an airball
machine. Not enough to get rich unless I change something (live table with high limits or casinos online, with 200
spins an hour) but I don't trust neither of them.
I did open a small company with my gains, for Visa purposes and some other considerations, and I use to go to
casinos 2/3 times a week. Usually twice a year a spent a week in AC or Vegas, for immersive play.

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415 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 10, 2017, 12:43:43 PM »

Well, not all days are the same.

I play airball machines, and on average they do 50 spins an hour.

Last week I had a different day, here the stats.

253 spins
96 units won
68 games of which
35 ended at first spin
16 at the second
1 at the third
4 at fourth

5 games over fifth, and three long games, who lasted

46 spins and maximum exposition at 121 for a winning of 11 units

45 spins and maximum exposition at 171 for a winning of 11 units
40 spins and maximum exposition at 103 for a winning of 9 units

wasn't the worst I had, but was very unusual to have three long sessions in the same day

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416 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 10, 2017, 01:58:42 AM »

Today I made a long session (5 hours, more or less), and here my statistics. I don't know if can help you, but I
guess they can, if you Reyth look at them seriously.

261 spins
132 units won
112 games (so, as you can see, the average game is from 2 to 3 spins long)
71 games ended at the first spin
18 games ended at the second spin
5 games ended at the third spin
9 games ended at the fourth spin (takes this last two datas with precautions, usually they are the other way
around)
9 games were over the fifth spins
31 spins has been the longest session
53 units maximum exposition at the longest session
5 units won in the longest session.

I think this answers to some other questions left unanswered by me some time ago.

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417 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 08, 2017, 12:08:31 AM »

Jerome, I never said I am smart. Many times I said I cannot understand what other people here says, because
my mathematical skill is quite lame. So, quite the opposite. Many many years writing numbers to find
empirically what Reyth can figure out in two minutes, because of his knowledge.
If I keep repeating that point is because I want you to push yourself in an unknown territory, because in the
"standard" way it is very hard (at least has been for me) to beat the wheel.
The concept of divisor, for example, is on point and accurate. I use a divisor. But is not this one the winning key,
it is just an helping tool.

I don't know how tell this in a different way, to make me clear: I don't care about other people appreciation, I
don't want statues or money, I am just a nickname in a forum, so what's the point?
I keep telling people that the land they dream of, where the HG is kept, do exits, despite many people here and
all over the world say otherwise.
Real here takes pride of fighting absurdities, and from his point of view the HG doesn't exist. I keep say out loud
that do exist and I don't gain anything if you believe it or not, because you are the only one the get advantage
of it if you can reach it.
I climbed an awesome mountain, a mountain everybody says couldn't be climbed. I push you to do the same,
and to look at the wonderful view from his top. I keep saying you I am not the only one, I strongly believe that,
but if I am wrong about how many people did the impossible, still there is me.

I was called a scammer, a liar, to write from a cave in Italy or use several nicknames in different forum claiming
the same (for whatever reason is not to be known), and when you traced my words you found I told the truth
(Yes, I keep not telling my system, so this cannot be checked).

Please keep working, and I don't want to know your results, your secrets, your HG. When you will find it, if it is
written to happen, please just open a thread saying you find one, and give hope to others still struggling.

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418 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 07, 2017, 02:05:43 AM »

Reyth, I really admire your efforts and some of the conclusions you reached. I think you have a very
mathematical mind, and your commitment to find my system is remarkable.
Many of the things that you write here are not easy to understand for me. I'd say my system is way more
simple than yours, and way more easy to manage at the table.
What you still miss is the "revolutionary" idea beneath my system, but is ok because otherwise I never would
be comfortable to talk about it. As you may remember, my goal was to push people toward the result of their
own HG, not giving mine (I know this is unforgivable, my true and darkest sin). Took decades for me to arrange
my system (yes, you are right, I wrote a lot in order to find out the best way to proceed), I don't think you or
anybody else will get in a couple months. People get angry and delusional for this makes me laugh. If you
could know how much money I have lost at the table before finding my HG...

I saw your video, and sure you get the boring part of my system. About the recovery, I tell you I never play
quads.
I am not a very aggressive player. I am a guy easy to get emotional and I don't want to see too much units on
the table. So, I try to find a way to keep my balance always under control, and the bet always surprisingly low.

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419 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 04, 2017, 06:42:19 PM »

Oh my god, you got me, now I am lost, I have to send back all the money you guys send me for my winning
system... let me do some math... Oh, right, just about 0.00.

You can say I say BS, You can say that the HG doesn't exist, you can do whatever you want, I don't care. I keep my
winnings and my system, and what you say about it doesn't change a comma.
If someone can get something from my clues good, if this doesn't happen, no one will be poorer or richer.
Pardon me if I give you hints, and tried to push you in a good directions for your search.
Excuse me If I wished you luck, and to succeed, with nothing to gain.
Excuse me if I made people think, and experiment, and find new way to conquer this game.

I am so guilty of this horrible behavior that I will stay in my little cave forever, without annoying anyone else.

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420 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: March 04, 2017, 02:17:08 PM »

The "deal" you offered was to make you get dollars using my system, with the advantage on my side os using my
system to make money I am already making. Sorry for not taking this wonderful opportunity.
Is like you offer me to allow me to drive my car, while you are not using it.

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421 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 23, 2017, 02:07:50 AM »

Nine units a day... Ahahahahah!

If you could win as much as I do, you would be here bragging at any posts, saying how much you are way
smarter than all of us combined, oh... you already do that, without winnings...
Sorry, My bad...

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422 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 20, 2017, 01:25:17 AM »

Jerome,
I have four casinos in less than an hour from my house, and three more inside a 90 minutes drive. I go in Las
Vegas twice a year, and Atlantic City is a nice (not really) spot to play. I love the casinos in Connecticut
(probably my favorites) and nowadays you really don't have to chase a place to play, they are building
casinos all over the country.
I can see myself living near a place like that, especially for my daughter. I wanna her to grow up in a decent
little town, with good school and in a safe place.

Thank you Kav. Some people just aren't able to see over their small boundaries. This thread is exactly the
reason for me to coming out and saying what I said. I see players trying their best to reach a goal, I can't
understand what is wrong with that.
Real's opinions are the obvious song repeated one more time.

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423 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 18, 2017, 06:02:03 PM »

Juice, your ability to get the point every time is astounding.

Yes, I do live in a quiet small village, because I chose to have good school for my daughter. I can go to New
York City or Boston in few hours, if pleases me.
I do not understand why this is relevant for my system or me as a person. I do not understand why wasting
time pretending to know my inner meanings or the secret scam I planning, or to accomplish my inflated Ego... I
didn't ask to you all for anything, money or solutions. I kept pushing you to do your best reaching your goals,
and sorry if I just wanted that.
Wanna blame me for your lack of comprehension? Please, do if make you feel better. My system is real, my life
is real, my clues are real. If you don't get it is not my fault.

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424 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 18, 2017, 02:02:30 PM »

I live in Central New York

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425 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 17, 2017, 02:36:09 PM »

Do I really have to chase your ghosts, BlueAngel?

I am not a millionaire, never claimed that. I get a very good living playing roulette, and I invested some money
in a company in US because I decided to move to US years ago. If this doesn't fit your expectation is not a
problem of mine.
To you and to all people who spend time reading this forum and this thread, I keep assume that your goal is
to find a way to crack the game. If this thread, my posts, or just my encouragement did that, I am happy. If not,
I guess I will be able to survive, and move over.

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426 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 17, 2017, 01:35:25 PM »

BlueAngel you made my day, ahahahah.

An investor's Visa is a legal permit to move in USA, not a credit card. Ahahahah.

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427 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 17, 2017, 01:21:27 AM »

Thank you for your kind offer Jerome, but I am not interested.

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428 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 13, 2017, 08:39:05 PM »

Was completely different from everything I used or studied. I was a "lover" of sectors, and I always loved play
straight numbers. My system as you already know doesn't care about these factors.
The idea stroke me and left me with a urgency to follow new paths. Was in that moment that I figured out
there is a weakness in the game. And I found several way to attack it (was like when you hear a new word, and
then you find the new word everywhere) some with more success than others. The one who looked more
promising was exploited at the maximum level, and finally became an HG.

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429 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 13, 2017, 02:37:34 PM »

Do you know how many times I collected all my papers and outcomes and systems and throw them in the
garbage bin saying "I am done!"
Frustrations? A lot. Sometimes I hoped I found sometimes, and after three days I had to face a painful loss,
economically and psychologically. But, one day, during a discussion about an unrelated matter, someone told
me he faced a problem in a certain way. My mind immediately thought the same approach could be used in the
game, and I started working.
That idea stayed the same, the way to use it changed continuously till the final form, that I reached few years
ago.
I don't need to fix a stop/loss for a situation that never occurred. I think it will never be the case, so much
"advantages" I have against the wheel, with my game. As I stated many times, the system can go for 260+ spins
but never get close to reach the first third of my progression. And my progression is made in a way to is virtually
impossible to cross certain points.

Yes, happens at least once every couple days that I have to put more than 300 units in the game. I try not to do
because the more you cash the higher your chances to get notice (at least this is my way of thinking, I am not
sure it is real with all the methods they now use to check your persona while in a casino), and I do not use fidelity
cards or perks or anything that can leave a trace.

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430 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 08, 2017, 02:29:33 PM »

I said several times that the ratio was my way to make more "mathematically speaking" comprehensible my
system, but was not my way of thinking. Reyth was really into it, and I think was a very good way to approach the
system. Still his, not mine.
I don't think Jerome or others will get my system, and if they get they will not tell me publicly, so I am sure I will
not have to make it public. If they message me proving me they had the answer to my question, they have a
working system (even without revealing it. I will understand if they are lying or not) I will be happy and proud, and
I will cheer their success.

If I do not have the three hits, the game will continue, in a different way if I get 0 or 1 or 2 hits. It is quite hard
imagine to have no hitting (happened once), more common the situation where my hits have been few spin
aparts one another, so I had to wait for more hits in the next spins (at least 2, as you can easily understand).
There is not a fixed limit of spins, but an adaptable configuration total numbers played/bankroll/amount
wagered. The jellyfish image Reyth used is quite accurate. Consequentially hits make my system very easy to
play, while a hit followed by more than 5/6 missing make it longer and a little more tricky. What happens usually
(when the game doesn't end in the first spins) is a long streak of missing (not very long, but you get the idea) is
usually followed by 2/3 consecutive hits, or in a very short time.

Another hint, a new CANON if you like it: I never played less than six numbers, but if a game will go over a certain
point (let's say 100 spins) I could find myself in a situation where I play fewer numbers for some spins.
Hypothetically, I could "forced" to play just one number.

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431 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 04, 2017, 03:12:28 PM »

Jerome, one of the problem you have is very inside the Western way to think, that is always /or, while the
Eastern way is often /and. That is because you assumed that a sentence deny all other than itself.
When I say that I need 3 hits in the next 15 spins, you read it like "I need to have exactly three hits in the next 15
spins". This is because your mind is bent in the Western way that affirming something means deny the
opposite. I said, instead "In the next 15 spins, playing a large amount of number, I just need three hits at the
worst scenario, so I am confident to get those. Sure, if I hit in the next spin, the game is over, but if I don't I have
14 more spins. I can get it at the second, and then I reach the target, or if don't I will have 13 more spins, and
sometimes one hit will not get me to the end of the game but it will reduce my balance so it will give me 12
more spins to grab two more hits, or one if I get it right away". Sorry for the bad sentencing.
This is what I mean for /and approach.
If my first hit came after 180 numbers played (roughly the seventh spin), then the very next spin can be the
last one of this game. I can wait though, because I have 15 more spin with a very low bankroll to manage, so I
am calm and quiet. I don't want to be accurate on this part because I don't want to reveal too much, but I think
you get the idea.

By the way, no parlay and no virtual bets. And I will be very happy if someone find his own HG. I will be more
than happy to confirm that you have found it, if you claim so or produce a proof of that. Envy is not one of my
flaws.

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432 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: February 01, 2017, 04:12:14 PM »

First of all, believe it or not I do not spend much time on the net, and reading this forum is not in my priorities.
Once in a while I check, and when there is a discussion I am interested I check more often, otherwise I can stay
weeks and months without reading it, so I am sorry to not be able to catch your question in the exact moment
you posted, my bad...

Second, I don't understand your question completely. In the first spin it is a little easier be a winner, and as the
game goes I chase my ratio (not exactly what I said, because this is something that is different of my way of
thinking, but to let you understand it). I will not let you know how many numbers I play, though. You have to find
out by yourself. And I don't care a bit if you do not believe my whole story. Stop pointing that finger to me. If you
believe is fine, if you don't is fine as well, just stop assume I care what you think about me.
Find your proofs, find your way, I got mine.

An honest question will receive an honest answer. As I said many times, you will not find mine because your
approach has no creativity, still you can find your own way, and I will be glad of it, even without any
compensation from you or anybody else (how could you, even wishing so? I gave no personal information and
no one knows me here).
There's is no selection, let me say one more time: there is no selection. If a reverse my selection the system must
work exactly the same, otherwise is just "luck". Everything can happen in the roulette table: the same number out
8 times in a row (has been recorded), or a dozen without hits for more than 46 spins. I don't believe in selection of
any sort, never worked out for anybody. I refuse to admit that I am using a selection because is not true!

Please rephrase your question if I didn't get the meaning of it. And, if I may ask, be more polite.

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433 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: January 07, 2017, 01:53:59 PM »

I think CANONS more relevant are:

4
18
20 (it means I do not play a even chances method. What I play changes during the game)
27
36 (the weakness of the wheel, the only point where all mathematicians attacked the game)
37 to 40
46
48
51
52
54 (do not take it literally though. A hit at any point changes the rest of the sequence)

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434 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: January 07, 2017, 12:48:18 AM »

So, Juice, that show exactly how bad mannered is my behavior! Months before answering!
As like all the people contacting me in private, you found that I never tried to sell the system, even a small
portion of it, and I always had the same attitude (good or bad as it is) that I show posting in the site. I think this
can mean something.

About the system, I appreciate all the contributions this thread has get since my "calling". Yes, I love the a spin/a
minute ratio form the airball. The change of speed of the ball doesn't affect the result of my play. Sometimes, at a
live table, you can have 6 spins in an hour!
As soon as I have some time, I will go through the CANONS to point out which are more relevant than others.
Some assumptions from Reyth and others can be incorrect regarding my system, but can be correct developing
a new one, so even if sometimes I find some "mistakes" in the reasoning, I think will not be useful correct them.

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435 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: January 06, 2017, 12:40:50 AM »

Jerome, I kinda appreciate your sarcasm, but really there is no need for that.
You stated that I need 3 hits in 15 spins playing 4 numbers. Well, this statement makes no sense. My
progression allows me to play a lot more numbers without breaking the bank. In the scenario, I have 15 spins to
get three hits, or I could say 8 spins to get 2, or 3 to get one (I don't give the exact number this time, I just wanna
give you an idea). I have partial recovery but I will always be in position to end the game positively, and playing
enough numbers to have odds in my favor, or because I play more than 19 numbers, or because I have played
so much numbers that at a certain point I have to hit something (I simplify so to let you get the concept).

Yes, times changes and roulette on the casino will disappear sooner or later. I will never switch to online or
virtual, because I don't trust this kind of things. I am old fashion, my bad.
I played in Europe, in USA and in Australia, in Asia and on a cruise ship on international waters, always getting
something back (very little in the cruise, because I had seasickness and throw up for most of the time...). This
been said, I don't really care if you or anyone else believe me or not. If you can get something from my
indications, you will be the one rewarded for this, not me. If Reyth find his way to his HG will not send a slice of
his winning to me, for sure. And shouldn't be, because he will deserve any coin he gets from his hard work!

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436 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: January 05, 2017, 01:15:08 AM »

No, Jerome, I am not angry. You made me smile, actually, because you reminded me of a old tale, about a fox
and a grape.
My first "words of encouragment" was meant to give hope to developers and players to pursue the search of
the HG, and I do not remember to encourage them to publish their consideration so to take advantage on their
work, to fix an idea I could not develop by myself. On the other hand, if I don't have already a working system in
my hands, how can I guide you through yours, with all the informations I gave?

When I say the idea must come before the operational system is because you have a weakness on the game
and you need a way to address it and conquer it. Without an idea first you risk to get drowned in numbers.
I still believe you all will not achieve my system, not because you are stupid or something like that, but
because you will find your own way to it, and it will differ from mine.
Nowadays, roulette tables and roulette machines are in their farewell trip. Casinos offer the most lucrative
and less expensive slots, so the area of real table or air roulette is shrinking. My fear is that if many players can
get a profit from a winning system, well, the last nail on roulette's coffin is in. So, as you can see, I am fighting a
personal struggle with the desire to help you (I have been there, chasing my system) and the necessity to keep
it as secret as possible. I found a compromise with my posts and my little advises.

Back to work: I do not relay on luck. Never! I never play few numbers, and some of your considerations are
wrong, Jerome (I don't go back in your posts to point that out, but you said something like that I need 3 or 4 hits
in next few spins... This is not real. If you want, I will go back and check it precisely). I think Reyth had brought
some wonderful ideas, and you have plenty of possibilities to explore. Probably someone else following this
thread has opinions that he should share, to help you out. I hope this happens. I follow your efforts with
pleasure and pushing for you, and not because you will provide a system to me. Believe me, Jerome, I have it
already!
My first two bets are:
1 Low or High with 1 unit
2 Low or High with 2 units

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437 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: January 01, 2017, 08:32:30 PM »

The long games are very rare. And when they get long, the balance is always low, so to allow me to decide to quit
and accept the very small loss (as I stated, occurred me sometimes for very special reason). The game stays all
the time in a very limited balance.
I never play straight numbers. The more you can group your bets the lower your balance will be. The reason is
very simple, double a bet in 9 numbers will bring you to bet 18 units, then adding one unit at each spin will make
you bet 27, then 36... But, if you use three streets, you go from 3 to 6 to 9... I know that you already understood
that!
The moment you try to force my method in your old "knowledge" you will be trapped in the previous limitation
that you already know. Keep looking for the idea behind it.

My system has several boundaries. Once I cross one level, it will have to redesign itself to be effective. If the
games is getting longer, and cross another boundary, a new redesign occurs. Let me try to make an example,
unrelated to my system.
If I play EC, adding one at every spin, I know that at the third spin I play just to go even. So, at spin number three I
start betting on dozens with two units so to be a winner if hits. This change of pattern is what I am talking about.
The system in itself doesn't change, but it bends as the game goes.
I do not add numbers continuously, I do not reduce when hit all the time. As I said its flexibility is important. This
flexibility is tightly planned, and there is no room for improvisation.
I don't know if this can help you in any way.

I suggest you to keep thinking in counter intuitive way. I found my system ignoring all the things I thought was
true before, simply considering that all my previous reasoning didn't brought me to a winning system.

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438 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Q&A about my HG

« on: December 31, 2016, 01:01:22 AM »

That's one of the issues, and a serious one.

Before the casino, are other players who notice you the problem. This force me to use several casino, and travel
a lot. I spend few days in a place and I move further, so to be in the same place no more than three/four times a
year.
I usually elude questions saying: "Today my system works, but last week I lost 1000 bucks" or something of this
sort. I wear casual and I do not use their loyalty cards, I don't ask for free rooms or food, not even a drink. I don't
mess around and I try to keep my profile as low as possible.
I am sure I have been noticed and scheduled by Casino, but I keep my winning "acceptable" for them (few
thousands) and I do not brag around.
Sometimes, I burn 2/3 hundreds dollars at the slots, or at blackjack, to let them think I am a gambler. I have no
idea if it works but make me feel more "ordinary".

I don't think someone can get my system just looking at it. As I said, sometimes I reduce total numbers played
after a hit, sometimes not, so sometimes I increase when I miss, but not every time.
Consider that people generally tend to think you should have a winning way to predict which number will come
out, and progression and/or money management is a concept acceptable just for a small minority of players. I
change my betting pattern when I see someone too much interested to my system, and I quit quite rapidly if he
stays behind me watching.
It is more interesting when you cross path with someone that seems to have a winning system like yours, but
this is all another story.

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439 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Q&A about my HG

« on: December 30, 2016, 01:04:15 AM »

What I meant is that the bet selection is not important. Sure I have to bet numbers to play, but the way I can
choose them is irrelevant.
I could choose numbers from home and playing them all day long (accordingly to the system, adding and
subtracting) without problems. That what I mean says the way you choose what to play is not important.
If you have to play a dozen, for example (not saying that you have to do it in my system) doesn't matter which
one you choose, if you switch at every spin or stick to the same one, or follow the late, or the last exit. Did I made
myself clear?

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440 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: December 30, 2016, 01:00:05 AM »

Ok, here a little help.

First of all, I suggest you to consider all my words true. There is no real advantage in thinking that I messing
things deliberately to make difficult to you all understand my system. I think you will not find it, but in the
meanwhile you can have a solution that differs from mine but still remain effective. That was my original
purpose, if you check my posts.
Second, I do not count mentally the balance and the ratio, I just check the counter on the monitor or the total
of my chips if I play on a table (that is a very rare situation). When I have more chips than the beginning of the
session, I consider the game over. My experience and my calculation, in advance and after a game, found me
the needed ratio to be a winner, but is not my way to know when the game is in profit.
I understand you are trying to find the solution empirically, or with a sort of a reverse engineering. Can work,
but I had first the "philosophical" idea and then I originated the system. The question is always the same.
I don't play at the beginning straight numbers, I play groups (can be dozens, even chances, double streets...)
so to have few chips on the board (remember, we need the balance to stay low).

My sentence on Reyth was serious. I admire his efforts. I guess my original post is almost a year old, and took a
lot of time to see people starting taking it seriously and start working, but at the end someone did it and I am
happy for this.

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441 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: December 27, 2016, 10:32:01 PM »

REYTH. YOU. ARE. AWESOME!

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442 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: December 27, 2016, 02:22:46 PM »

Well, I have no idea if I am the only one or not. I think there are several ways and approach to beat the wheel,
some of them more efficiently than others.
A guy once told me that if you spend a year playing and the balance at the end is 0, you can consider
yourself a winner because you had one year of fun for free!
Is not my opinion though. I started this adventure to get a profit, to gain a living, and a winning method that
allows losing streaks or loss stop point wasn't good for me. I wanted to be a consistent winner, I wanted to relay
on an additional income, and I found what in the end has become my only income.
I am sorry I will not give more clues of it. You all get the idea and I guess you have the tools to find your way to
it. I will point out once again the most important question of them all, and is the most important because if you
solve this dilemma you will have the key to the system: How can I keep the balance low so to wait till the
numbers come in my favor?

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443 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Talos_Dump

« on: December 27, 2016, 02:27:31 AM »

I am impressed. I am clapping my hands for your efforts, and the conclusion you reached so far. I will not say if
you are far or close, but I will correct some assumption that I think can help you go through it (I keep my idea
that you will never reach the exact one, so my system is not in danger, and probably you will end with one of
your own).
Canon 31 and 3e are both true, sorry for that. (I love that definition).
When I used the word number is exactly what it is, but your implication can be wrong. Let's assume that I
relate each number with a sequence of numbers, like the closer in the wheel, or a series of streets in the table,
so for my using a number as a reference point can be bring to the table a whole bunch of numbers instead of
a single one, am I right?

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444 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Q&A about my HG

« on: December 13, 2016, 12:13:26 AM »

Jerome, glad you are still working on it!

As I always stated, the progression is the real HG. And yes, is quite hard to get. It took me two decades, and I
crashed in it I should say casually. I was frustrated by the fact that every progression goes higher and higher till
they get unplayable, unsustainable.
I realized the there is no point in thinking in a strict mathematical terms. Many Maths geniuses in the last
centuries did try to face the problem, and they ditched the game as unbeatable. Many people here say the
same. Mathematically speaking they are right, probably, but there is no need to limit oneself to any boundary, no
matter how logic and consequential it is.
I mean, it is normal if you think that your approach is the only that exists, find no answer to unresolved dilemmas
in that area. Still, you have options to think in a different way, no matter which field you are working in.
You need to find a new perspective, a new point of view, to that dilemma. I know what other thinks, that is
exactly why they loose. Everything is impossible till someone prove it possible, after that moment for every one is
crystal clear, "how could I be so blind?"
As I said, I forgot about selection, I kept aside outcome. Statistically speaking, I should hit one number every 37
played (38 on American Wheel). Let's consider variance, because statistic works on big numbers, and I tried if I
could sustain 1 hit every 40 numbers played, then 45, then 50... I stretched the idea till the maximum I could
manage, and I find myself in the ratio 1/60, that is quite good, in my opinion.
Probably I could stretch it a little more, but the game is already too slow sometimes that I can't really handle the
boredom.

Probably I repeat myself, please be patient. If I play 370 numbers, adding several spins of course, I should have
an average of 10 hits. It won't happen, we all know that. I don't need to hit 10 of them in order to gain a profit, just 6,
and with not a huge bankroll.
And with every hit I find myself in a better position, with less bankroll to recover.
If you select a number, you can select just the one that will not show itself for 300 spins. It is hard but can
happen. Will be a lot more unusual that after that the second number you select will go for other 300, and after
that the third you play, and the forth, and so on and so forth. Mathematically can happen, but in your lifetime it
won't. Some of them you will hit in the first three/four spins.
So, my idea is just rely on that consideration, keeping my outstanding balance low enough to not get crazy, and
playing for enough spins to let the variance work a little in my favor. If the table close or broke (happens in the
soft air wheels) I play in another table as I was keep playing in the previous one, because nothing really changes
(remember, I don't care about numbers).
The few times I had to stop playing I didn't follow this rule but I started a game as a new one, keeping track of
"what if", and all the time I recovered from the previous situation ending in a profit.
Why I didn't? I don't know, exactly. I always preferred to take that loss and start with a fresh game, probably as
an habit, and probably because the loss wasn't that high.
I am an emotive player, I know that and I know myself. I don't want to make mistakes because I am nervous.
Sometimes it happens, sometimes you bet the wrong numbers, and that mistake 90% of the time has no
consequences. Sometimes it helps you, because you wrongly play the 33 instead of 36, and you hit. Sometimes is
all the way around. In the latter case I consider that as a no-hit and I keep playing, game became a little longer
and that's it.

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445 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: October 17, 2016, 09:24:38 PM »

For example playing 18 numbers in the first and second spin, then 24 from the 3rd to the 10th...

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446 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: October 17, 2016, 06:19:53 PM »

No, Jerome, what you wrote is not the only solution...

As I already said, the selection is not important. If with a pattern of bets I would have win at the fifth spin, with
another would have been at 7th.
The average hit/number played is what I rely upon. 1/60 can be seen not enough, in a short term, but I play a lot
of numbers for a lot of spins, so sooner or later I will get it, because "mathematically" the average will tend to be
1/38, am I wrong?

I can see that you all can't believe progression is enough to be a winner, that's why you are not (relatively
speaking, I don't want to offend anyone). Is like when people could not believe that the earth was round just
because was beyond their experience.
I don't see my system go down the drain shortly, because I never been in years at a point in my progression that
can be close to that. My system can hold for 260+, and never once I reached spin 80. In my past experience I saw
systems go close to go broke and be saved at the very last moment, and that was just a premiere for the
inevitable, that eventually came.
With my system, at spin 60 I can be down less than twenty units, with a bunch of numbers to play, so no panic,
no pain if something go wrong, like a broken machine... This is the difference.
You immagine my system going up up up and me forced to put thousands of dollar on the table. Doesn't work
this way. I do not rely on a single magical hit, a turn of luck. More spins, more closer to the average I will be. If I am
on 1/75, how much units I have to recoup? Not many, I tell you.
I am absolutely agree with BlueAngel, play 6 splits instead of a dozen makes no difference, except that you can
use 1 unit instead of six...

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447 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: October 16, 2016, 04:12:21 PM »

when I say selection is not important, I exactly mean that no matter what is your pattern, your way to choose the
right number/area/color/section has no influence in the final outcome.
When I started, I took 2000 spins I witnessed in a casino. I selected a pattern and I used my system (for a better
understanding, let's say a used the number 1 as a pivotal point of my system). It worked. then I used a different
pattern, and then another (let's say number 2, and then number 3... finally 36). In every occasion worked, even
when a number, a split or a street skipped for two hundreds spins! Sometimes I profited more some other less,
naturally, but at the end I was winning no matter what.
I understand 2000 is not a huge number, but was the beginning and gave me enough confidence to try the
system at a real casino. After that I had days, then weeks, then months and years of winnings, so every
mathematicians speculations are meaningless to me (Einstein had a better project to work with, he didn't
committed to the study of roulette, so he is not a very good reference...).
I do not chase my losses, increasing my betting. My progression is unique, as I already said a dozen time, is not
aggressive or mild, so your assumption that exist only two kind of progressions is really naive...

Now I am portrayed like a sociopath... Well, it's amusing.

About the quote, I was clearly talking about the Simple system, and everyone less blind than Scepticus can
easily read that.
Jerome, for me a game end with a profit or is not over.

If I tell you my first two bets on my system I will not reveal anything, because the difference is the way I bet after
not hitting in the first two spins. I will not give hints about the idea behind the progression (but some ideas in this
forum are not that far to mine, though) and I don't care getting your approval. I really hope Jerome will work hard
to find his way to it, and I will not gain anything from that, and he will have noone to thanks. That's how it works.
Haters, shortminded, blamers will have all the time of their life to say and write whatever make them
comfortable.

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448 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: October 15, 2016, 12:32:34 AM »

I encourage people to find a way to their own HG, not to mimic mine. I don't think anyone can have exactly the
same as the one I use, for many many reasons (and I don't give enough hints to grab it, but maybe someone
can, who knows?). I just wished to tell people that who claims "HG doesn't exist" is plain wrong. Visual Ballistic,
Statistics, Math geniuses, all scammers and liars that claim that, and try to sell you their system or method or
"super advanced technology"... I am not one of them. I sell nothing, I am not interested (but I admit I was
tempted some years ago, as I already said).
I wish people double their efforts to find the HG knowing that someone has it (I am sure I am not the only one, I
have meet people I believe they have a winning one in their hands... I guess already said that too).
Jerome, hard to believe but your English is worst than mine, and sometimes I have hard time understanding
you. Still, I hope you will find what you are looking for. It will not come to you in a full, complete, detailed
scheme, but in bits and pieces. You will work on it till it reaches is complete form, and then you will know if is
good or just not enough good. If the latter, start again with a new idea.
I still try to improve mine (without success in the last 18 months or so, I think), to reduce bankroll or shorter
games, and I will ever try no matter how good is now, and just because I cannot do otherwise.
I don't know if this is helping you or not, but I felt I want to tell you all of this.

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449 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: October 14, 2016, 08:30:21 PM »

No, dear Scepticus, is not a variation. As I stated in the post: "That is a system I used few years ago".
In fact, I used the simple system for a short while, after that I managed to have a slightly better idea and the
I had My HG.
Maybe I already said that, but the HG didn't come to me complete. The original idea has been tweaked to
reach his actual shape. I admit that at the beginning was hard to manage, because of the notes and calculus I
had to perform while playing, then I was able to simplify it.

Jerome, be careful endorsing me. People here will start to think we are the same person supporting each other
(for undisclosed reason, by the way).

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450 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: October 13, 2016, 08:33:36 PM »

Jerome: I am from Italy, and I moved to US because I want my daughter to study here. She was very young
when we moved, and Italy was in a very economical disaster.
As I said, playing the european wheel changes a little but you don't really notice in an average game. I had a
trace in my first two years or so, then I found it no more relevant. I know my progression, there is not much
calculus to do, and so I stopped. I play on machine, so I just remember the count when I start the game. When I
reach a bigger number, I know I am in profit (cannot be easier). I usually start with 300 units, so I just keep
tracking of that (you get it, right? when the counter show 302, I start a new game). When reach 500 or so, I go
eat or do something else, and then start again at 300.
I have been scared at the beginning, because you always think the casinos have rigged games. Now time
proved was a unjustified fear. When you have 8 people play at the same time, it is very hard find a number that
make everyone lose. On the other hand, one day I had a guy close to me that was playing just number 14, with
splits and street, and was playing big. He got the 14 hitting like 4 times in 7 spins, and walked away with 14000
dollars...

I don't play with $1 chips, as already said in other posts. I started with quarters, and took me time to have
bankroll and confidence to go for more. I usually get 200 units a session, and I go for 2 or three session a day.
Do the math.

Blue angel, you can call me Filippo, is my name. What is so special about my progression, or my system, is that
is a winning one. My progression is nuclear science because I am the only one in this forum that got a
bulletproof system. You can believe me or not, I don't care.
I enjoy seeing your perspective on my situation, but I love much more mine! I don't chase losses since 2011,
when I created this system. I lost and won before, with other systems I created, and a lot before any kind of
system crossed my life.
I don't need much hit to recover. My system allow me to play less numbers when I am close to profit, and
more when I am moving away from it. That's the geniality of it. The average hit ratio is really on machine favor
(1/60), so I don't need a very specific combination or luck to win.
I have many spins, many possible combinations, an adjustable progression (I mean adaptable) to reach my
goal. Your warnings, as I said before, were already old 4 years ago...

Almost forgot. I wrote posts about it only here. Any other forum or users with similar content are not me. And
sometimes I regret even to have started this one...

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451 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: October 13, 2016, 02:05:40 PM »

Scepticus, you should read with more attentions. I said my system can sustain itself for more than 260 spins, but I
also said that that never occured, not even close.
The profit for each game is minimum of 1 piece. So, it is usually more. Is another information I gave previously.
The vast majority of my game last very few spins, as any system with a quite large selection of numbers. The trick
is recover when the game becomes longer.
Jerome, I said that doesn't matter what number you choose, if the total number played is correct. Sure, if you
want to keep your bankroll low, you need to play chances, dozens and so on and so forth.
I play american roulette, with double zero (I now live in US), it is a little harder, but not really.

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452 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: October 13, 2016, 12:54:03 AM »

Jerome, your post is exactly what I was hoping for, when I started post in here: make people work pursuing my
HG. You are wrong, here and there, but really doesn't matter, you will find your way, eventually.
The only advice I can give you is find the core idea of the system, the "revolutionary" one, otherwise other
already should have found it. My system has a particular progression that allows me to win, and to find that
progression your brain must have a click, and find what's really important.
No matter how many indications and numbers I give you, or hints: without that you will not succeed. Keep
trying, and be a-linear in your thinking. Try a never attempted road, be original.
My best wishes.

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453 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: September 26, 2016, 03:15:26 PM »

Wow, is my English that bad?

"at spin 10 I already played 228 numbers (with no hits whatsoever)"

"(usually, with some hits meanwhile) at spin 20 I already played almost 200 numbers"

I never play more than 24 numbers in a spin (24*10= 240, means that I play at maximum 24 numbers, so in ten
spins I played 228 that brings easily the total below the maximum possible that I posted)

No wonder you can't find it, never in a million years.

I also said the my system can go as long as 260+ spins, not that I need to play that number of spins to reach my
goal. Any game, as soon as it reaches the ratio 1 hit every 60 numbers played (roughly!) it is over with a profit.
This profit is 1 piece or more, depends when I get the ratio.
I count units, not dollars.

And I am done for now. Three days and you remembered me to avoid this forum.

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454 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: September 26, 2016, 11:45:07 AM »

There is no situation that can me bet more than 24 numbers in a single spin.
And yes, I guess it is very hard to catch the system without comprehending what's the source idea of it. You
must be think in a original way how to recover your outstanding balance.

I will not explain the system, but I say to you there is one. For a smart, dedicated mind this is all that is needed.

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455 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: September 25, 2016, 02:57:41 PM »

Zero is a number with the exact possibility to be hit as the others, so if you plan to include it in your pattern of
bets it is ok.
I do not play more and more numbers if I don't finish the game in the firsts spins. It is true, though, that the
total numbers played TEND to increase when I miss and TEND to decrease when I hit. My system is a
combination of bet selection and progression. I pay no attention of what to play.
I had very bad sequences (the longest I remember was first hit at 16th spin, with the profit at spin 27). I had
shorter wait on first spin but an overall longest game to reach the profit, so really doesn't change. I do not want
to go through my books to find the exact sequence, probably I already written it somewhere or to someone.
The game is usually short, because of the large amount of numbers involved. Despite that, sometimes I play a
considerable low amount of numbers, and if I hit in a strict sequence (let's say three in a row) my profit is quite
large.

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456 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: September 24, 2016, 12:50:58 PM »

The apparent contradiction is easy to explain. I have been asked how many number without hitting I can sustain,
and I showed that. In the vast majority of games I hit something, and this will change completely the total sum of
number played, as my outstanding balance at that moment. If you read carefully you can see it quite easily from
my basic explanation posted earlier.
Impossible to recover? I need four hits, and several spin to obtain that, and after every hit I reduce my total bet
so gaining more "time" to fill my 1/60 ratio.
About what I select, I already wrote that I have a pattern that I follow, so to not be confused or distracted. My
preferred pattern is following the last number, sometimes I use another pattern, because at the end it doesn't
matter, as I already explained.
Important is how many numbers following a fixed progression bet. That progression is the important part, or "the
trap" as Jerome says...

What I want you to understand is my simple advice: You can not predict what number we will come out. Your
only weapon against roulette is the money you put in and the way you do it, because is completely up to you.
Cold numbers, hot numbers, closer to this or that, magical combinations are all stupid things, in my opinion.
My progression is unique, and takes advantage of the only weakness the wheel has.
Now I remember why I didn't checked this forum in a while...

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457 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: September 23, 2016, 03:03:58 PM »

Jerome, At spin number 10 I already played 228 numbers, for an outstanding balance of 93 pieces. Yes, I need
several hit to recover and be in profit, but as you can understand with the number I show is not so difficult to get,
or too costly.
For example at spin number 10 I know I need 4 hits in a short period, or five in a longer one. I assure you it is quite
rare reach spin number 10 without any hit!
When you hit, you play less numbers, and when you don't, the total numbers played tend to increase.

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458 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: September 22, 2016, 11:29:14 AM »

Jerome, read with more attention my Q&A. My system can hold for more than 260 spins, and I never play a single
number. At spin number 20 I have already played almost 200 numbers. Important is the ratio of the hit (1 out of
60) I get.

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459 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: September 21, 2016, 02:46:27 PM »

I have a way to select what to bet, in order to avoid confusion or indecision. If system tell me to play a couple of
dozens (for example, is not the way how it works...) I have a pattern to chose which dozens are to use. What you
choose doesn't affect the final result, as long as you bet two dozens!
This "pattern" helped me testing the system without tweaking results. I tried different patterns with the same
spin outcomes, and worked exactly the same.
A winning system must work in every situation, or is not a winning system. If you need to check late, hot, or
lucky numbers, is not a winning system, it is a strategy.

Is good, though, after many months after my last visit, see that someone is still working on my clues. That's
exactly what I hoped for, telling you that is possible to win, consistently. I understand that is not easy to connect
all the dots, but is worthwhile.

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460 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Q&A about my HG

« on: April 24, 2016, 05:30:01 PM »

Sorry, your guess is wrong. As I said, I play different amounts of numbers as the game progress. Playing one
number? I have been already dead for boredom...
I moved recently from 1$ chips to 3$ chips because I reached one of my planned benchmarks (100.000 real
spins). When I will cross the 150.000, I will move to 5$, and crossed 200.000 spins played, I will land on a 10$ chips,
my final goal.
When, I said when, not if, my system will fall, I will lose less than 0.1% of what I get so far. I don't think I will lose
often though.

Moreover, I said that vast majority of games ends in few spins, and this cannot be with a single number bet.
You are not paying attention...

I can't see the point of warning me on a system I am using since 2014, pocketing a lot of money since then

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461 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Q&A about my HG

« on: April 20, 2016, 09:11:12 PM »

I think the first year has been just recovery, for all the money I spent previously, in systems and strategies that
didn't work.
In almost thirty years of attempts, I had my share of desperation and anger. Many times I thrown away pads
and notes, with thousands and thousand of outcomes on which I tested systems that lasted less than 2 hours in
a real play.

Is not easy to win even with a winning system. As I said, boredom is a potent killer. You need discipline and self
control. These are characteristics my brother doesn't have. I understand is quite sad as a statement, but this is it.
He is an honest man, but is not a player in any sense, and the system for him is just a waste. The defeat is,
primarily, on the player.

I will not share. Let's say you want to start a business, a solid and established franchising. You have to pay a
quote, and initial setup, and a slice of your profit, or a monthly fee. I thought of it for some time. Put together a
bunch of people and sweep casinos, getting a share of their work and all of mine. I thought asking like 50000$,
give some training, and when the player is able to walk by itself, start with a new one (I guess it takes less then 30
minutes to learn it, and maybe a day or two to handle at the casino).
My problem was how to control that. I know how much the system profit, but I cannot keep the system with the
initial team. They can spread it all over the world, and make it worthless.
Honestly, I don't think the casino can stop it. I don't reach limits, I don't cheat, I don't use any device, is just simple
math, but the accessibility to a casino floor is always discretional, so they can kick you out without reasons. So I
decided to keep it to me exclusively.
As you can see, there are issues. I thought to keep with me and just my wife, or my brother, as a safety net, but I
don't have the right person close to me. Anyway, I wrote it down as a legacy for my family, and they will have it if
something will happen to me. I am confident that someone will be able to use it. I am not even 50, so I hope I got
some time :]

With the future money, I will do some investment. For now, I spend most of the winning moving to US, buy a small
business to get a Visa, and I just recently moved to a new bigger house. As I said, I am not really interested in
becoming rich. Never been a dream of mine. I like money, I don't like to be ruled by greed.

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462 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: Q&A about my HG

« on: April 20, 2016, 06:13:03 PM »

Jake, consider that I was living in Europe till few years ago, and my English was nothing back then. I never heard
of the website you are talking to.
I made my progression entirely from scratch.
I didn't figure it out in a blast, though. The initial draft was different, then I adjusted it practicing and playing,
when my mind figure out a way to improve it. Not all improvements has been for the better, so sometimes you
have to go back to basic, but what I have now is untouched since 2014.
Ever attempt I made to improve it further has been unsuccessful, so I guess I reached the top of it.

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463 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Q&A about my HG

« on: April 20, 2016, 04:44:18 PM »

How much bankroll do you need?

In theory, 1400 units. In my experience never gone even close to that. My record is around 450. But It is good to
have some margins.

How many numbers you bet?

Depends. Changes during the game.

Did the game ends with the first hit?

Only if hits in the firsts spins. Sometimes I need 2 hits, sometimes five…

What the average profit?

Each and every game ends with a profit from 1 to 9 units. The average profit, because games can last 1 spin
while other 30 or so, is around .30

Do you need a “magical” combination in order to win?

Not at all. All is needed is that I hit an average of 1 every 60 numbers played (or better). As soon as this
threshold is reached, the game is won. Has happen I had to wait more than 180 numbers played before the first
hit, then in the next 15 spins or so, with three more hit, the game was over.

How you choose numbers to play?

I use a system to avoid any mistake, and to fasten the game. There is no a better pattern or a best or worst
choice, the important is the total numbers played, in the way the system asks for.

How many spins your system stands?

It can go almost 260 spins. The longest game I experienced is 73 spins, and the second worst around 50. The
average game last 4 spins. During the day 80% of games are from 1 spins to 12.

Do you sell it?

No, I don’t.

Why?
Because I don’t want to. I make enough money with it to be satisfied, and if I had to put a price tag, that should
be quite high.

Are calculations complicated?

Not really. In the vast majority of games I can compute mentally, using a clicker to keep track of spins. When
the game becomes longer, let say more than 20 spins, you should keep track of balance, but is not
complicated at all.

Do you cheat the wheel?

No, in any way. I use math.

So, what’s the philosophy of the system?

I think progression is the key. I don’t think there is a way to predict what numbers will be next, or sector or street
or… Past spins have no influence, the dealer have not, the cabalistic aspect of numbers… BS. Even statistic has
no matter in few spins, because it works on large amount of numbers.

How you found it?

I tried and tried tons of systems, changing approach every time that I felt stuck and cannot improve further
what I had. I guess I have been lucky finding an unusual way to build a progression. As a matter of fact, I never
seen a progression even close as the one I use.

Why you are not rich?

In an average day, you can play 8/10 hours, with frequent stops. Most of all, because looking at a wheel is
boring (I usually browse the internet meanwhile, because you don’t need much attention in the first 10 spins, or
chatting or using Facebook etc. etc.). The airball machine, that is faster than live roulette (close to 1 spin every
fifty seconds) allows me to profit 30/40 units hr. I play with 3$ chips, so my day ends when I get 1000$. That
goes two/three days a week.
With a 3$ unit chip, for 1400 bankroll needed, I bring with me 4500$.
My plan is move to 5$ then 10$, so to reach a profit of 3000$ a day, or 6000$ a week, or 24000$ a month,
“working” only two days a week.
Last year, for example, I played for long sessions of 12 and 14 days in a row, in Atlantic City and Las Vegas. Not a
pleasureful experience, except for money.
Back to math. To became rich you should play something like 4 days a week, with a 20$ units, so you have to
bring 30000$ cash in the casino (go figure) and maybe redeem 10000$ over and over… You get noticed, not
only by casino’s employees: thieves, gold diggers, people in needs, other gamblers… I don’t want that!

Are you the only winner?

I don’t think so. I played in hundreds places, from US to Australia, from Norway to Spain, on cruise ships and so
on, and I met at least other two guys that seemed to have a good system. You can say this because they didn’t
celebrate huge winnings, they were very focused on the game, and I “recognized” my same behaviors (no
rewards cards, no chatting with others, no emotional display of any sort).

Did you ever lost?

Three times. Once I had to go to the bathroom because of oysters… yeah, enjoy the buffet, they say. Another
was because they had to clean the area where the roulette was located. They gave me a warning of three
spins then they closed the machine. I was out of like 20 units, so not a big deal. Third, and most painful, in the
middle of a long game, I was out around 150 units, and my sister called me at the phone. My mother was no
more, and I left without caring of the systems or the money.

Do you play online?

No. I think it is too easy to rig results, and secondarily I don’t want to be noticed. I change often casinos, and I
cannot stick to an online one.

Did you ever told someone the system.

I wrote the system for my family, if something happens to me. Unfortunately my daughter is too young to learn
it, and my wife cannot grab it. I had sometimes the temptation, for vanity or because someone needed so
badly, but I refrained myself.
I thought to teach it to my brother, so he could protect my family if something unexpected happens to me.
This is my biggest concern. I am not in a good relationship with him, and I do not trust him 100%, and I don’t
think he got the right attitude to play the system at the casino, because lacks of discipline.

Something more to add?

I’m just a nickname on a monitor, and people reading it are nicknames too. I don’t want to impress females
just to bring them to me, so there is no use to fake something. I don’t care if people believes it or not. I have
been called liar and attention seeker, dreamer or scammer. I get sad reading these statements, because they
do not understand my position, and moreover they reveal their short sight. Unfortunately my English is not
good enough to express myself completely, and I am sure I made a lot of mistakes here, but I hope someone
will be encouraged to find his own way to his HG.

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464 Gambling Philosophy / Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« on: April 19, 2016, 08:51:37 PM »

I guess is OT, but because you asked, I reply. I am here to encourage you all to keep trying in your search of the
HG. This was in fact my first post here, and I believe in it since.
So many people keeps saying the roulette cannot be beaten, I say the opposite. If they are legit, I am too.

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465 Gambling Philosophy / Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« on: April 19, 2016, 06:31:02 PM »

Kav, he implied I am a liar, I implied he is an idiot.

I have no problems. Every time I pocket my money, I think of people like him, unable to accept what they
cannot understand or have. They protect themselves saying is not possible because they cannot stand that
they aren't able to get it.
In the last 2 years and a half I got more than 400.000$, do you think his opinion is somehow relevant to me. He
can keeps is opinion while I keep my money and my system. Win-win...
The fact is that I am playing right now, and I get bored, so this is a distraction.
Anyway, because of the question in this thread, I gave my answer. Simple and straightforward. Some users of
this site asked me privately and politely informations about my system, and they get some. Not enough to
solve the riddle (unless they are smart, devoted and analyze every hint I gave them) but something to work
with.
I have no intention to sell my system, and sure I will not reveal it for free (25 years of work cannot be wasted). I
think there is more than 1 winning system, and I am sure who is in the same position as me decided to do the
same: keep it secret without exceptions. Probably I am the dumbest of them all, wasting my time in a forum like
this one, with people so shortminded.

Bebediktus, my dream should be a big one, because allowed me to move to US, grant a Visa, live in in a big
house (rented, not enough credit history to start a mortgage). Well, after all has been said that if you work hard
on your dreams they became reality. Yeah, I know, even these words of wisdom are fool's gold.

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466 Gambling Philosophy / Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« on: April 19, 2016, 02:36:14 PM »

So, bebediktus, if you have a winning system, you would share it here? Clever.
No wonder you cannot have one...

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467 Gambling Philosophy / Re: What if you found the Holy Grail?
« on: April 19, 2016, 12:31:10 PM »

As I said, I found it, and I will never explain to anyone.

I wrote it down for my daughter, so if something happens to me, she could have it when she will be old
enough (now she is 5). No one of my friends or relatives will have.
I tried once to explain it to my wife, but after a couple of minutes she watched me confused and said: "Are you
kidding? I don't understand a thing of what you are saying", so now stays with me.
In the last years, I lost some games, or for malfunction of the roulette (airball machines) that closed down
while I was in a game, and once because I had the urgency to go to the bathroom. The system, as itself, never
failed.
I started with .25$ chips, and now I play 3$. My next step is 5$ then 10$. No more than that, there is no use and
could be dangerous in a variety of ways.
Once a guy at the casino offered me 20.000$ to explain my system (I played for a week there, and every day
he kept an eye on me). A mistake I will never do again. Maximus is two days in a row.
I play 8 hrs a day, 2/3 days a week. I do not work, because I do not need to.
The worst part of a winning system is the boredom. Stays there hours doing basically nothing is boring. Deadly
boring. And around you there are a lot of distractions. So you have to build your discipline, and stick to it
playing at roulette no matter what. At the end, you can use your winnings (part of them) to enjoy yourself. I did
in my prime, now I walk away as soon as I cash my ticket.
My daily goal is 1000$, sometime I quit a little before when I am tired. Mostly, I stick to it. My final goal is 3000$
a day for two days a week. Not enough to became rich, but I am not in that kind of mind setting.

By the way, I don't care if you believe it or not. I post here with open hearth and no second meaning
whatsoever.

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468 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: DR Talos Talisman

« on: March 08, 2016, 06:42:46 PM »

Sorry blueangel you are wrong.

I don't wait for any sleepers or missing numbers. I start playing without any observation whatsoever, as soon as I
reach the casino. I don't think someone can predict outcomes, so I work just with progression.
I play with 1$ chips, because hypothetically this system can go high as little more than 1000 units (if this
happens when you play with 5$ chips you have to collect more than 7000$, and this bring employees to register
your name for receiving payment, something I do not want.
97% of games ends in the first 14 spins, and almost 70% in first fives. Usually I do not need to put more than 300$
dollar for every session, and after two/three hours I take a break.
For my system to work, I need that I hit a number every 60 numbers played (means I don't have the same
amount of numbers to play at every spin). I have 256 spins to pursue that average. When the ratio 1/60 his
reached, my system is in profit.
Hope this helps.

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469 Casino Lounge / Re: Vote! Should the original poster be allowed to delete replies?
« on: February 20, 2016, 01:55:54 AM »

Yes, the first is in front of your mirror, all others are around you.

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470 Casino Lounge / Re: Vote! Should the original poster be allowed to delete replies?
« on: February 20, 2016, 12:48:32 AM »

Quote from: Real on November 08, 2015, 02:40:24 AM

Drtalos,Nobody here is going to send you money. You should probably try the gypsy scam elsewhere. This
forum already has other system sellers. Lol

And is not the only one. You said I am full of s***, I am an attention grabber, and so on and so forth.

Caught again. It will easily became an habit...

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471 Casino Lounge / Re: Vote! Should the original posted be allowed to delete replies?
« on: February 19, 2016, 10:57:47 PM »

If there is someone who puts negativity in here is Real! He lied, and I just pointed it out.
He accused me of lying, of scam, and he said I was a fake profile of someone else. I didn't saw you putting
shields to cover me.
I respect your work here, and your attitude, but this guy and his friends crossed the river many times, and just
because they have to sell their junk (if wasn't so, junk I mean, they will spend time getting money from casinos,
not from people).
Mine is a winning system, and I will never sell, and never reveal outside my family. People here works together to
figure out a system or at least a strategy that works. This is good, and everyone should encourage this. What is
the meaning of get annoyed by Real or his friends?
If you see what has happen lately, you will see less posts and less idea, because I thnk people is getting sick of
been treated like fools or idiots, and quit working at open air, sharing ideas. It was supposed to be so? I don't think
so.
Anyway, I said mine. Forgive me for this rant. I will out for 4 days (my weekly casino trip) so I will not be able to
follow this forum or just occasionally. I am curious to see what people think.

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472 Casino Lounge / Censored

« on: February 19, 2016, 10:06:24 PM »

so, explain me why one of my post his no more visible.

Several days ago, I said that the effort Real put throwing s*** to anyone made me suspicious. I said he have
somehing to sell, and wants everyone to fail just to sell his system/machine/whatever.
Real said no, obviously. He is in a sacred mission of save all of us from our mistakes.
Then, today, he reavealed himself promoting a site where they sell machines to beat the Wheel. I put a reply
calling him good as a two dollar bill. My reply is no more there!
So, I hope this thread will last, so anyone get to know what his game is.
I don't know if he handle this forum, or else. I keep saying to all of you: go with your effort to beat the wheel, and
ignore this "person".

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473 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: How to Test for Independence

« on: February 14, 2016, 10:26:45 PM »

Real, your logic makes no sense. I understand you have something to sell, but your way to repeat your mantra
(gambler's fallacy and such) is quite annoying.
If someone has a system that will eventually fail, I guess he will find out by himself.
Every thread here starts with an idea, then you jump in with your mantra, repeating over and over your point
of view. We got it. I assure you. We are dreamers and you are a scientist, please proceed.

What's your purpose? Raising yourself downgrading others? If you could just spend your time collecting money,
as you should do as a Professional Gambler, it will be great. Let people play and try their way, they are big
enough, and you are making a fool of yourself.
If you can not build something, at least avoid to destroy other people work. Be respectful, be tolerant, be wiser.
Your way is not the only way, just one of many. You and your friends are bad weed in a wonderful garden. It is
so frustrating your negative attitude, I cannot even word it.
Do you know how many impossible things has been done while other were screaming "cannot be done!"? And,
finally, the sentence about the inutility to expect a different result from similar starting point is absurd. In
science, you always pursue a different result from a single starting point, with small variations. People here do
experiments trying to find a result, working with numbers, progressions, deduction and such. More are closer
than they think, actually, but the last step is the hardest, it is said.

Forgive me for this illiterate rant, i'd love to be able to write a better English.

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474 Roulette Systems / Re: Profit Thief

« on: February 14, 2016, 07:30:23 PM »

Quote from: Real on February 14, 2016, 05:24:17 PM

Congratulations,

You're computer program is a great big gambler's fallacy enhancer.

*your...

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475 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: How to Test for Independence

« on: February 14, 2016, 07:28:17 PM »

So...
Checking outcomes to identify a biased or fallacious wheel, then look at the ball spinning around the wheel to
identify a sector where it will most likely end its run, it is called science.
On the other hand, waiting for a situation to occur, a situation that statistically happens one time every two
spins, and studying a progression that allows you to wait 20 spins to hit, it is called luck.

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476 Casino Lounge / Re: Playing The Game Changes The Game.
« on: February 05, 2016, 10:57:15 PM »

Makes no sense.
If roulette is a random game, what's the meaning of changing a random element of it accordingly to the
people playing.
If the wheel is biased, and the outcome already determined by the overall betting, what's the meaning of this
change you are talking about?
I wonder what kind of answer you whould have give if someone stated what you wrote in your last post.

I respect your "knowledge" of math and the game, I absolutely do not like your attitude, and your way to
consider a fool everyone is not on your side.
Remember me of Aristoteles, who said that women had fewer teeth than men, as natural proof of being lesser
individuals, and despite he has been married twice, never asked to one of them to open the mouth to allow
him to count their teeth...

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477 Casino Lounge / Re: Playing The Game Changes The Game.
« on: February 05, 2016, 06:17:39 PM »

In a airball roulette, where the spin is set and goes auto, spinning every 50 seconds, no matter how many
people are at the table, betting on their little screen without knowing each other pattern or style, does my
presence change the outcomes?

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478 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: To all mathematician here

« on: January 26, 2016, 12:11:47 AM »

Sorry Jefra I do not speak that language. I can say Hvala, dobre Jutro (I am not sure is even right this) and few
more words.
I do not play even chances.

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479 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: To all mathematician here

« on: January 25, 2016, 06:30:23 PM »

You are right. My mistake. The name was The Gold Club, and the location is at the entry of the Lipica resort and
Casino.
My bad.

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480 Roulette Systems / To true seekers

« on: January 24, 2016, 07:18:13 PM »

I will not answer to this post to any stupid rant as I get in other threads. This is just a cumulative answer for all
the private messages I get these days.
Heres my thought on this game, and how I achieved my results, hoping you all can treasure it and get some
good.

In this game you see two possible roads to follow: predict numbers outcome and betting strategy.
Has been clear to me, after first ten years, that there is no way to predict anything. Numerology, wizardry,
statistic are not helpful. I have seen a number hit 5 times in a row, and another one disappear for 478 spins.
Red hit for 28 spins to get interrupted by a 0 then hit for more 14 spins... So, my first decision has been take out
all this BS.
I worked on progressions. I guess I am too dumb and ignorant for deep math, but I also thought that some
math geniouses (well, probably not as good as some people in here, though) approached the wheel and they
surrended, so a full mathematical approach seems unlogical to pursue.

I easy get emotional, so I couldn't accept a system too demanding in terms of high betting or huge bankroll. I
couldn't see myself putting like 300 units on a spin wheel. I get no confort thinking that I have 90% of chance to
hit... So my systems always started with an expected balance of 2/300. I knew that developing the system I will
find a need to multiply that. If I start higher, I will end near the impractical.

I tried to be creative, putting ideas on the table and trying without prejudices whatsoever. Even if system would
fail, some of it could be good.
After many years, putting toghether all this crumbs of experience, I figure out a way to manage progression in
a bizarre way (by the way, a last advice. Because so many work and worked to find HG, a system too easy to
plan, like betting the last sector, or add 1 when you hit, must be discarded right away. Other already tried that!).

If your system win big, will lose big. If your system win one unit, you just have to figure out a way to recover from
a very small amount in the bad streak. This is important.
In my opinion is not good to relay on a single event in order to to win. This single event could not happen for a
very long time.
Hope this will help someone.

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481 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: To all mathematician here

« on: January 21, 2016, 02:08:38 PM »

For me, a winning session is: I insert 1000$ in a machine (or change in chips at a table) and hours later I take
1500$. And not occasionaly, but steadily and repeatously.
But now I know few things.
1) it is easy to win. Pick 18 number you easy get 130 hit out of 200. (Please show me that!)
2) even if you win a million dollar over a twenty years time frame, you should consider yourself a loser,
because you will die and death will come in your grave with a roulette wheel making you lose for the eternity,
just to balance odds.

Seems I wasted my time here. This will not happen again. I am heading to a casino, where I will be in the next
four days, facing my destiny as a loser and crying when I cash my illusional winnings.
So long, guys.

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482 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: To all mathematician here

« on: January 21, 2016, 03:03:13 AM »

Yeah, Real, you did a very good job spotting me. You are such a laugh... I hope for you you do not play poker, with
this "ability" you have.
What a loser.

Blueangel. No, they have nothing against paper and pen, it is me.
Perla is a very big casino in Slovenjia. The biggest, to say it all. I was playing in a small one called Diamond Club.
And I choose that because was one of the few with an airball machine.

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483 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: To all mathematician here

« on: January 21, 2016, 01:45:35 AM »

To blueangel:
Do you know how many things are against you in a casino? How many players try to understand the way you
play, have many interruptions, technical difficulties, machines out of order for some time and such? If you are
out for about 5000 units and they ask you to leave for changing tickets dispenser, or general maintenance, or
cleaning, what you do with your system?
And about calculation, you really think to bring paper and pens? (many people does that. One brought even a
laptop, once). Is not my way. I don't want to get noticed, for easily understandable reasons. I play enough to
change money with a machine instead of a cashier, and always below 10000 so I will not sign any paper. I do
my simple math in my mind, and I use a clicker to keep track of the number of spins occurred.
I had been throw out of a small casino in Slovenjia, once, a couple years ago. I will never do the same mistake
again.
I change often my target, so I need to stay away from home 3/4 days a week. I love Las Vegas for obvious
reasons, and I do not trust online casinos (two reasons for this, you can easily guess both).

I post here because many are really trying to beat the wheel. I was in the same situation not so long time ago.
So I try to give inputs, suggestions. I will not give my system to anyone, free or for money. I wrote my fourth in a
post called simple system, the top threes are with me, and written for my family, if something happens to me
(my oldest son is 19, can take my place). What I wrote can give you the wrong idea. Two fully tested systems
are written, the third, the one I am developing right now, is still only in my pads.
The system, profitable, that I do not use, has a need of a big bankroll, and sometimes the game can be too
long for a marginal profit. The other, you can call HG is, well, Holy Grail, and is exactly what I dreamt of for
something like 30 years.
Hope this clarifies a bit my position here.

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484 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: To all mathematician here

« on: January 21, 2016, 01:27:45 AM »

Ok real, some facts:

I go to casinos for three/four days a week. I play around 8 hours a day, and I see grossly 600 spins, gaining
around 1500/1800 $ a day. My systems total bankroll is 950 units (never been close to that. The worst game
touched a 590 units). For my basic bet, 3000$.
You say that something that has never happen in the last 18 months (grossly my last 200 visits to casinos) will
happen tomorrow, making me lose 3000$. And, moreover, from tomorrow it will be a rule, and I will lose 3000$ a
day for the next year.
Are you joking?
I have no idea why you keep reading posts here and trying to put everyone down with your "unbeatable
math". I don't care (already said that). You can believe what you want. If you are sure, let's make a bet. Bring in
a casino 25000$. I will do the same. I play my system for any reasonable amount of time you want. You fix the
limits. If I win, I take your 25000$ (without explaining you the system). If I bust, you take my money.
Deal?

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485 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: To all mathematician here

« on: January 21, 2016, 12:05:01 AM »

Thank you bluangel. I do not look for a new system. As I said, I was amused by the challenge to find a better
solution than the one proposed by Reyth. I figure out a progression that last equivalent of 249 spins with a need
for a single hit to be victorious, and the bankroll required of 355 units.
As each and every system I like, gains merely one unit a game, but the majority of games last few spins, so I
asked For some math. If the system takes a loss every 900 games, grossly, means that I have a positive balance
of 555 units.
If this is the true, it will be the second system in my personal portfolio (not really, because I didn't test this for
more than a couple thousands spins, so so far it is just theoretical for me).

Any system that requires more than 1000 units as bankroll, will be discharged by me immediatly. Sorry for that.

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486 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: To all mathematician here

« on: January 20, 2016, 09:28:57 PM »

Sorry for you. I respect the democracy of opinions but the tiranny of facts say to me that in the last 18 months I
cashed an average of 22/25 thousand $ a month with my system, so I respectfully don't care a bit what you
Sapiens believe or know.
My question was because Reyth system (bullseye) make me work on the idea of a single number progression,
so I just asked, politely.
As I sayd, I appreciated the answer.

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487 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: To all mathematician here

« on: January 20, 2016, 07:55:58 PM »

No, real, question is another. If your sistem gains 1 unit a game, and you can aspect that once in 918 you lose, if
the system costs you like, so to speak, 356 units to cover that 249 spins, seems to me you have something in
your hands. Am I wrong?

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488 Roulette Strategy Discussion / Re: To all mathematician here

« on: January 20, 2016, 07:28:18 PM »

Thank you. much appreciated.

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489 Roulette Strategy Discussion / To all mathematician here

« on: January 20, 2016, 05:43:55 PM »

how is mathematically speaking odds of a single number to miss for 249 spins?

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490 Roulette Systems / Re: Bullseye

« on: January 19, 2016, 11:16:16 PM »

I give you my 2 cents of advice.

One of the flaws of this is that you put all your eggs in one basket. A single number can forget to hit for a long
time, and mathematically speaking, nothing say that after the first hit your number must come more often
than usual. For what I saw, can sit out for other 400 spins without problems.
Second, the recovery schedule is too fluctuant. Sometimes when hit you get a lot of profit, and sometimes just
zero, or little more.
Third, you need a huge amount of money in order to play. When a system crave for more than 1000 units
bankroll, my soul cries... Even if you won so far, it is herthbreaking put like 200/300 dollars in a single spin of a
wheel.
Probably you can improve it a little, for example looking for the latecomer. And switch everytime you hit.
You can choose a less aggressive progression (the easiest one goes for 120 spins with a total negative
balance of 493, and a max bet of 14).
I don't think this will change the substance of "bullseye", It will ever be a very risky system.

I wrote all this in admiration of your efforts and your attitude. I love the enthusiasm you have when you
approach a new idea, your discipline in testing and reporting, and I learned to know when you leave an idea to
something new, like now with this one.

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491 Roulette Systems / Re: Bullseye

« on: January 17, 2016, 01:57:11 AM »

There is a point when the system is too far gone to consider a stop loss? And how much will it be? I ask this
because from my point of view the bankroll is quite huge, and I saw numbers hit once in 300 spins and sleep
again for a couple hundreds more spins. At that point will your progression be just too heavy?

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492 Roulette Systems / Re: Bullseye

« on: January 17, 2016, 01:25:37 AM »

At the end of the first progressiom (92) you are negative 700, or so. How many hits do you need at level 2 and 3
to recover? Seems, from your explanation, just once per level, and this cannot be. Please clarify to me.

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493 Roulette Systems / Re: Bullseye

« on: January 13, 2016, 11:20:43 PM »

How can you be covered for 920 spins? I guess one hit will not be enough.
The system you are talking about is "bullseye"?

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494 Roulette Systems / Re: Bullseye

« on: January 13, 2016, 08:26:52 PM »

You Reyth found what I discovered a long ago: fewer numbers your selection is, easiest your recovery, longer
your game. The other side of the coin, is that your profit costs you long hours at the table. Overall, is a good
rule, but brings you in a dead alley. If I have to invest big bankroll and huge amount of time to gain pennies,
is better for me to find a job! ;]
A single number can be played with a slow progression that covers 153 spins with a total bankroll of 1510 units,
and if you play the oldest number out (already late for more than 100 spin) you can win quite easily. Is it
bullettproff? Is not, unfortunately, and your losses will be more than your winnings, so the nature of this games.

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495 Roulette Systems / Re: Bullseye

« on: January 13, 2016, 07:34:40 PM »

You need a system that not relays on a magical winning combination. If you need your number to be hit, you
are wandering in a deep dark wood. What I meant is that your system (in order to be HG) must win no matter
the sequence of numbers the wheel sorts out. This is why I wrote that the recovery sometimes can be a
relatively slow process, but overall the system end up winning (one unit).
You are not paying attention, I guess.
A single number can disappear for a long time, but who said I play a single number?
I guess you agree with me if I tell you that a simple chance can disappear for a less considerable amount of
time, or a dozen can sleep for more than that but less than a straight number, and so on and so forth.
The trick is a "playable Martingale". I keep saying that, I know I am boring.
Let me clarify for you one more time. Suppose I am playing red with my progression. I win. Then, with the same
outcomes, same list of numbers, I play black. The system must win as well, otherwise is not trustfully. That my
point.

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496 Roulette Systems / Re: Bullseye

« on: January 13, 2016, 06:22:05 PM »

I did, dobbelsteen, but I didn't get any of it. I do not understand the system and the idea behind it. I would love
to understand it better, if you could help me...
So, if you are looking for my opinion, I have none

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497 Roulette Systems / Re: A simple system

« on: January 10, 2016, 12:41:55 AM »

This is exactly why I no longer use it. Grants very huge winning, and some painful losses. Now, I completely
abandoned selections of numbers to play, and I worked just with Progression.
This system can be used selecting twins or streets instead of straight numbers, works quite in the same way.

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498 Roulette Systems / Re: Bullseye

« on: January 01, 2016, 04:43:44 PM »

Previous outcomes has not business in future outcomes. You know that. You have only one road to follow in
order to win: betting amount. The "perfect system" is the martingale, but unfortunately is impossible to play.
Once you create a suitable martingale, you have your Holy Grail.

Has never occurred more than 22 times the same single chance hit in a row. If you wait for it, you could
consider the 23rd a sure winning. Is not. The possibility to be red or black, manque or pass is exactly as before.
The only thing different is that after the outcome, they will correct the record.

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499 Roulette Systems / Re: Bullseye

« on: December 31, 2015, 11:07:23 PM »

This is so true, Real. Human mind needs to see a pattern where there is not. I always say that there is no reason
in selecting numbers to play, or special combination that works as triggers (wait three blacks, then...) this is
nonsense. If a system works, must do it with any random number you chose to bet.

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500 Roulette Systems / A simple system

« on: December 29, 2015, 11:18:34 PM »

I see you all are looking for ideas, so here my little help.
This is a system very effective that I used some years ago. The reason I left it is simple: I cannot accept a
system with a stop-loss criteria.
A perfect system must have some qualities in its structure, like easy to manage, no deep calculation needed,
a reasonable bankroll, and a general good gameplay, with no choices to be made during the game.
So here the system, and the good and flaws of it, in my opinion. Feel free to use it, test it or improve it.

The system tries to get advantage on repetitions. As you all know, in a full cycle (37 spins, or 38 in an american
wheel) on average 2/3 of the numbers will be out, and 1/3 will not. We don’t know which numbers will be
repeated, and how many times, but they will.
The system is played on straight numbers, and I’ll show you an actual play that took place in Atlantic City a
three years ago, more or less.
This was the situation when I approached the table. A list of the last sorted numbers, from the oldest to the
last one.
24
11
25
35
3
24
So I started playing with a single chip on all numbers from the one following the repeated one. The total is 5
numbers, or five chips, as I should say. Then the next one was
21 play 6, balance -11
3 I hit, easily. Profit 25
Now the game is a single chip on 3 numbers (24-21-3)
26
23
21 so, with just three shots, another hit (is not always so easy… I included it to let you handle the idea before
getting serious). I played a total of 12 chips for a profit of 24. Now still three numbers to play (26-23-21)
14 (+4 chips played = balance -7)
4 (+5 = -12)
5 (+6 = -18)
28 (+7 = -25)
8 (+8 = -33)
23 Profit 3. New start, I played 7 chips (21-14-4-5-28-8-23)
16 (+8 = -15)
21 Profit 21. New start, play 8 numbers)
1 (+9 = -17)
20 (+10 = -27)
5 (-38)
30 (-50)
35 (-63)
31 (-77)
23 (I won 36, so my balance at this point is -41) My selection for the next bet is the same as before (numbers
from 16 down to 23, for a total of 9 numbers) adding 1 to my bet, so I put 2 chips on every number. The total
played is 18 chips, for a total balance of -59)
0 (+20 = -79)
31 Still not in positive, I am -7. New selection with just three numbers (23-0-31) with 3 chips on each. Total bet is
9 and the balance is now -16.
31 straight repetition. I won 92 chips. The total for this session is 165.

Ok, is not always so good, as you can see for yourself. You can reach a multiplier of 25+ and a need for a huge
bankroll (more than 1000 chips) so you are forced to a stop-loss.
This system taught me a great lesson: if a system let you gain a lot, it will cost you a lot. Every system who
promises you to get more than the mere nominal chip is always a mirage. Sooner or later will put you upside
down.
Sure, this method can let you have hundreds in minutes, but it is risky. It easy to track because every roulette
table nowadays has the last sorted numbers visible on a screen, and there is no need of calculation, really. I
had to remember just the total balance I have at the beginning of the game (I play on automatic wheels,
because real tables are too slow) and that’s it.
I think it can be improved, sure I tried, then I jumped in something better and I left it. I hope you will enjoy it. As
always, forgive me for my clumsy English.

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501 Roulette Systems / Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.

« on: November 10, 2015, 12:08:57 AM »

To RouletteGhost AKA Sherlock Holmes.

A) scam artist who has nothing to sell? Like open a store with empty shelves.
B) this is the only forum I am in, and I did just few days ago after reading posts for quite few weeks, and found
them amusing.
C) a rise? By who and for what? Did I ask for something? I keep saying "try harder and find your system". Is
something so unacceptable for you, to look for hidden meaning and planned strategy?
I feel so sorry for you guys. How can you handle all this anger?
I hope you can take this seriously people believing in a God in the sky, or who votes Republicans. They are
victims of a scam. Unless you are one of them, of course, if this is the case, everything is already explained.
Have a wonderful night.

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502 Roulette Systems / Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.

« on: November 09, 2015, 08:35:09 PM »

Real, you keep saying I wanna sell something. I don't. I do not want to sell it no matter how much money you, or
anyone else, can offer. And, If I do not sell, what make you think I will give it for free?
I don't ask for applause either. I want to give people some hope, based on my experience. My system won't
last? Fine, that means that I will lose few thousand dollars. In the last for years (little less) thanks to it, I moved
to US with my family, got an Investor Visa (you need 1M$ for that, don't know if you are aware), and I think I can
handle the math god fury on me...

I think you are missing the point. Mathematically, the same number can hit 10 times in a row. A very small
chance, still could. Never happened, because is not a probability game, as I said in the first place. My approach
to progression is quite unique, for what I see, and it works. Because I am not the most intelligent man in the
world (wasting time with you is quite a demonstration of that) I think other did, in their very own way. So, for the
seekers in this forum, my advise to keep trying is, I think, useful.
Roulette is a simple game with a small (compared to other games) house edge. We all know that. Is not the
only game where you can beat the casino, and you can understand that just checking in which game you
have limits and boundaries (blackjack and roulette). They (casinos) already found flaws, and in decades they
fixed that. If my way of play became "popular" (selling to one person, just one, will be the end of it, you
understand it, right?), they will change something to cut my system out.
Did I use enough logic to you?
Never underestimate reasons of others just because you are not in the position to handle their specific tasks.
Being a consistent winner creates a whole new set of problems with casinos.

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503 Roulette Systems / Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.

« on: November 09, 2015, 04:56:31 PM »

You are funny.

Allows me to introduce you to a concept important: what you need is a practical solution, not a perfect
solution. This way, theoretically unsolvable problem can be solved.

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504 Roulette Systems / Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.

« on: November 09, 2015, 04:32:08 PM »

As I said, "Martingale" is a winning system that defeats the house edge. Unfortunately, is unplayable... So, the task
is to create a playable Martingale. Many tried: we have Reverse Martingale, Fibonacci, and so on. This is the path.
For my experience, any system that tries to predict outcome of future spins is not working, so you have to
consider only math.

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505 Roulette Systems / Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.

« on: November 08, 2015, 02:28:20 AM »

How much should be paid a real winning method? Let's say I will ask what I gain in two months, is this
enough?
But you are right, if someone decide to sell it, there is nothing wrong. I think that nobody will do because you
have to ask for a lot of cash. Sometimes you see people sell 100% winning systems for 10$. They claim they get
from the system the same amount in 3 minutes, so how can anyone fall in that trap?
I do use a progression, not as painful and aggressive like Martingale, but not everytime one hit close the
game.

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506 Roulette Systems / Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.

« on: November 08, 2015, 01:30:24 AM »

RouletteMan, you are medicine for me.

Are they behind the scam also called Roulette Physics? The people who sell a wonderful machine for several
dozen thousands dollars, machine able to understand that the ball will drop in the wheel, in a sector with a
number on top, that can be red or black or green, 100% sure?
Everything is clear, a blue sky, thank you. I was so pissed today, but now I can sleep with a smile.

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507 Roulette Systems / Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.

« on: November 07, 2015, 10:57:43 PM »

The title of my post say everything: "A word of encouragment".

You have no clue about me lying or not. Your prejudice decided that I am a liar, an attention's grabber. This
prejudice is because of your "knowledge" (I should write lack of knowledge).
A better attitude would be "because I don't know, I don't jugde", but it is too much to ask, I guess.
Your Prejudice is built on the fact that you never heard of a winning system, but is like believe that the earth is
flat because is the common belief, and was the situation few centuries ago, despite the fact that some people
already pointed out the truth (Eratostenus, like 2 millenia before).
Hard to believe, I know, but Dr Talos is not my real name. So what kind of pleasure I would have claiming
something like that? I want to sell something? Nope. So?
If you have a winning system, a real one, would you give it away so easily, just to read compliments and clap
of hands on a monitor? I don't think so, especially if you did work hard to find it. Sure, I could stay quiet, like I am
sure many do, but I think a true seeker in a moment of despair can find some energy in my statement, and
keep working.
I will no longer reply, I will not explain it, and I let people find what they want from this thread. I met a lot of
people in my life so stupid to believe that what is between their ears is all that exists. So be it.

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508 Roulette Systems / Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.

« on: November 07, 2015, 06:26:44 PM »

I hope someone smarter than you (shouldn't be difficult to find...) catch the meaning of my post.
Don't ever let, all of you, that people shortminded like Real keep you down. People that think that what they
know is everything you can know.
I cannot believe you are the sperm that won...

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509 Roulette Systems / Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.

« on: November 07, 2015, 03:10:51 PM »

You are the one that spit sentences on everyone else, I see.
I said, on average I gain 0.25 per spin, that means that in 4 spins I gain one unit. Who said 25 unit per spin? I
play an average of two days a week (you know, I have a family and I love to spend time with them) and I stay
at the casino for 8/10 hours each day. I eat, go to the bathroom, walk, grab a coffee... So playing time is around
seven hours.
I play with machines (roulette tables are too slow) so I see 200 spin an hour, that means fifty units. Moltiply by
7 are 350 units. Machines allows 1, 2, or 5$ units, so I think you can do the rest of the math.
I will became rich? I don't care. I have enough, now. If I'd found this in my twenties, probably I would move
inside the casino, with a tent, but I am a lot older, so I am happy with this amount.

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510 Roulette Systems / Re: Holy grail. A word of encouragement.

« on: November 07, 2015, 12:47:45 PM »

I don't care if you believe it or not. You don't know me and I don't know you, so I cannot see the meaning of
patting myself on the back with people that are completely strangers to me.
I wrote it for the good guys among you that are trying and sometime feels sad because they crash on a wall of
bricks when their system fail, and they read, in places like this, they are chasing a unicorn. I would like to
remember them that even human flight was impossible till someone did it. In the world there are two kinds of
people, the ones who thinks impossible is just another word to say hard, and the ones who say 'I don't believe it'
because they cannot stand they are wrong.
I will not explain my system because I can't understand why someone has to have for nothing what I spent a life
to achieve. I do have enough curious during my game sessions, "discreetely" walking behind me in order to
understand why I am not losing at the roulette, to ask for more.
My system gains 0,25 a shot on average, the bankroll needed is a lot less then 1000 units, and the longest game
has been around 90 spins (I do my calculation without writing down outcomes, so cannot be accurate on that).
The average game lasts five spins.

I repeat, I don't care about your opinion. What I do care is to encourage someone in this chase. I am sure that
anyone with a very good system doesn't share it. I played in Europe, in USA and in Australia, on boats and on land,
and sometimes I saw people play with a system that looks like a winning one, and they had a confidence that I
recognized (never a sign of impatience, not an eyebrown rised when a strange situation occurred on the wheel,
like the same number six times in a row, and so on and so forth), so I am quite sure I am not the only one.
I studied Pointcarè, Riemann, and many more, then I found a well known system that was a good one. I worked
hard to perfect it, and I did. End of story.
Now, because haters gonna hate, I will be amused by the next replies...

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511 Roulette Systems / Holy grail. A word of encouragement.

« on: November 06, 2015, 04:57:49 PM »

Just to let you know, the system do exist.

And, to be honest, I think there are more than one. The only problem is that you can't find a winning system on
sale, for easy to understandable reasons.
I worked on mine for more than 25 years. I had lost a lot of money during the process, and I studied a lot of
math. Roulette is not a probabilties game (you play too few shots for the rules of chances to be involved). It is
just math, plain and simple.
So to avoid any further question, I will not explain the system (why I should?) and I will not sell it (I gain enough
to have no need of selling it), so my meaning here is to push you all to keep your studies and your efforts
straight towards the desired Eden. I repeat, it is real.
I had read a lot of interesting posts here. Some people look at the tree missing the forest, while other have a
very "hippies" approach (magical relationship between numbers, power of the dealer, this sort of craps), so I
encourage you to go back in matemathics and forget "hot" and "cold" numbers, or sectors, and handle just the
money you got as a bankroll. That is the key. After all "Martingale" is a winnng system, if it wasn't for the table
limit and the need of a huge bankroll to win a very small amount of money. I guess I already said too much.
Good work to all, and thank you for keeping this forum so amusing.

(I am not an English mothertongue, so forgive my mistakes)

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