Frosting in Oils
Frosting in Oils
ED CZECHOWSKI FS-ELLIOTT
CHRIS NAPOLEON NAPOLEON ENGINEERING
MIKE TURSKY FS-ELLIOTT
Author Biographies
Ed Czechowski – Fellow Engineer at FS-Elliott since 2011.
Retired manager of New Product Development at Cameron
Compression systems. MSIT and BMET from Buffalo State
College. Advisory board member at both Buffalo State and the
University of Buffalo.
• Manufacturing processes –
part holders, lathes
• Magnetic base inspection
indicators
• Gear box Machining
processes
• Magnetic Particle inspection
• Space heater failure
• Welding on frame
• Motor feed and drains
• Group III oils
How to Check for Stray Voltage
Type of location:
Virtually all the major
bearing failures have
General location of frosted occurred in
bearing compressors Petrochemical plants
(highest annual humidity that produce ethylene
readings in the country) based products
High Humidity / Plastics Plant = Static Charge Influence
30.0
25.0
Vibration - Micron
20.0
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10.0
5.0
0.0
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Data Collected from Repaired Units
Unit Shaft Voltage Shaft Current Static Charge Comments
W/ Ground ring 31 mV rms 26 mA rms 170 - 515 V Static decayed
over time
W/O GR 1.029 V rms .93- 1.02 A rms 50 – 360 V Cycled every
eight minutes
Micro-cratering – damage
surface appears dull,
characterized by molten pit
marks
Rolling Element Bearing Damage
Fluting – resonance
vibration pattern from
over-rolling smaller micro-
craters
Common Solutions to prevent stray currents on turbo
machinery - economics
Grounding Strap on
Motor.
According to (Paschen’s
Law) electrostatic
discharges can occur as
low as 380 V.
* - refer to Summary
Summary
There are multiple ways that stray electrical currents can
develop in any given compressor.
Trying to stop each path could be very expensive and
time consuming.
There are two possible paths leading to the pinion bearings
Motor to bullgear
Static charged air to the impeller
OK Fix – make the oil more conductive
Good Fix - Although a bull gear shaft grounding system has
proven to effectively reduce bearing frosting, air side
charges must still cross the bull gear mesh in order to
ground out. This could damage the gear teeth over time.
Ultimate Solution – Direct grounding of both the bull gear
shaft and HS pinions on a geared centrifugal.
Direct Pinion Grounding Recommendation
Location #3
High Speed Rotor
Location #2
Low Speed Rotor
Location #1
Bullgear Shaft
Future Topic – Static Charges in Hydraulic Systems?
Questions?