Historicity of Krishna & MBH
Historicity of Krishna & MBH
Historicity of Krishna & MBH
MAHABHARATA
R. N. IYENGAR
BANGALORE
QUESTIONS ADDRESSED IN THIS TALK
*ARE THE VARIOUS CELESTIAL EVENTS
MENTIONED IN MAHABHARATA
REASONABLY CONSISTENT TO BE
BELIEVED AS HISTORICAL ?
QUANTITATIVE
ARE THE ECLIPSES CREDIBLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH
THE TIME PERIODS OF THE STORY LINE ?
ARE THE PLANETARY POSITIONS MEANINGFUL ?
ARE THEY COMPATIBLE WITH THE ECLIPSE INTERVALS ?
IS THE MOVEMENT OF SHUKRA (VENUS) AS MENTIONED
REASONABLE ?
VEDA VYASA
PANDAVAS- KAURAVAS-VRISHNIS
AbhimanyuÆParikshit
JANAMEJAYA VAISHAMPAYANA
Takshashila
UGRASHRAVAS
WEST
SAUNAKA NORTH-
SOUTH Naimisharanya EAST
JAYA 8800
BHARATA 24000
MAHABHARATA 100,000
1.BHANDARKAR O.R.I PUNE,
(WEB EDITION, KYOTO UNIV):SANSKRIT in ROMAN SCRIPT
In the cloudless sky there were lightnings; the earth shook and Rahu
caught the Sun, but, not on the fifteenth day. .
Dhrtarastra confirms this eclipse much later as he broods over the sad
happenings, in the last chapter of sabha Parvan.
Meteorites are falling in daytime and Rahu covered Sun on an odd day
causing great fear among people.
The third mention is in udyoga parvan chapter 182 describing an old
battle between Bhisma and his teacher Parasu Rama. Bhisma himself
says that on the 4th day of their 23-day battle at Kuruksetra
But a difficulty arises due to the mention of another eclipse a few verses
later in the same chapter. This fifth solar eclipse in the text is
Candra-suryavubhau grastau eka mase trayodsim (bhi.p. 3.29)
The fourteenth day has been made into the fifteenth day
again by Rahu. Krsna understood that the 36th year (as said
by Gandhari at the end of the MB war) had arrived.
(520,505,470/69) (724,711,676)
(811,798,763) (843,830,795)
(1493/91,1478,1443/44)
(2638,2624,2588/89) (2758/57/56, 2743, 2708)
(2759/58/57, 2744, 2709) (3021, 3008, 2973)
(3168, 3154, 3119) (3200/3198, 3185, 3151)
Planetary positions as per EZC software on Kartika-Krishna-
Ashtami of possible war years. (Udyoga Parvan P.P.1. Slide 33)
Date-BC Saturn Jupiter Venus Mars
1.10.505 Krittika Revati Svati Bharani
29.9.711 Krittika Anuradha Vishakha Chitra
1.10.798 Rohini Magha Hasta Magha
26.9.830 Krittika Anuradha Uttara Magha
20.9.1478 Bharani- Purva Jyestha Jyestha-
Krittika bhadra Anuradha
31.8.2624 Mrigasira Purva Jyestha Uttara
27.8.2743 Krittika Magha Chi-Svati Ardra
6.9.2744 Krittika Pushya Jyestha Chi-Svati
Sky Chart for 20.9.1478BC 19 hrs.(LT)
Sky Chart for 20.9.1478BC 5.30 AM (LT)
Sky Chart for 12.10.1478BC 5.55 PM (LT)
Sky Chart for 12.10.1478BC 5.30 AM (LT)
WHAT ABOUT OTHER PLANETARY POSITIONS
ALSO IN BHISHMA PARVAN.
OBVIOUSLY SATURN COULD NOT HAVE BEEN
NEAR BOTH ROHINI AND VISHAKHA IN A SPAN OF
A FEW DAYS OR WEEKS.
COULD THE STATEMENTS BE SPURIOUS?
THE TRIPLET(1493,1478,1443BC)
SATISFIES THE ECLIPSE SEQUENCE AND
ALMOST ALL PLANETARY POSITIONS OF
MAHABHARATA.
SECOND QUESTION:
WHAT ABOUT OTHER CELESTIAL OBSERVATIONS
ASSOCIATED WITH KRISHNA-LORE ?
WE HAVE TO CHECK WHETHER THE PURANIC
STATEMENTS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THOSE IN MB
HARI-VAMŚA (HV)
CHECK WHETHER THE PURANIC STATEMENTS
ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE MB DATE OF
1493-1443 BC
As in the previous investigations with MB, the planetarium
software, PVIS has been used to search for solar eclipses
observable at Mathura. A solar eclipse was possible to have
been observed on
4th April 1523 BC.
A few days later Mars could have been seen in the stated
position.
WHAT ABOUT THE COMET OBSERVATION?
Mars
Saturn
Sky Chart as per EZC Software for 25.6.1523 BC. 22 Hr. (L.T).
NEXT TO MAHABHARATA,
PRABHASA-KHANDA OF SKANDA
PURANA CONTAINS MORE
CELESTIAL OBSERVATIONS
CONNECTED WITH THE LIFE OF
KRISHNA.
VISHNU PURANA AND BHAGAVATA
CONSIDERED MORE IMPORTANT
CONTAIN NO VERIFIABLE
CELESTIAL OBSERVATIONS.
DURING 1522-1500 BC SEVEN SOLAR ECLIPSES WERE POSSIBLE
LUNAR ECLIPSE WHEN PANDAVAS WERE IN COGNITO IN THE
13TH YEAR OF THEIR EXILE
This eclipse introduces a severe constraint on the
original MB story. Previously it has been found that
the compatible year for the war is 1478 BC. Also there
is internal evidence in MB text, to the effect that the
war took place about an year after the thirteen year
exile was completed. Hence, for SKANDA PURANA
to be in conformity with MB, the above lunar eclipse
should have been in 1480 BC.
Indeed there was a lunar eclipse on
24thApril 1480 BC,
as can be verified from PVIS software, visible over
Kurukshetra and near by regions
SOLAR ECLIPSE IN THE 36TH YEAR AFTER THE WAR
CURSE OF GAANDHARI ON KRISHNA
COMET SIGHTING SOMETIME BEFORE KRISHNA’S DEMISE
IN 1443-1444 BC
MB (Aadi-parvan)
yatra.te.puruSa.vyaaghraah
shastra.sparza.sahaa.yudhi|
brahma.daNDa.viniSpiSTaah
samiipe.lavaNa.ambhasah||
This verse refers to the last days of Yadavas, who
fought among themselves near the salt sea. But it
also mentions they were squeezed by the ‘brahma
danda’.
In the puranas this is explained as a ‘musala’ or pestle
(long wooden contraption to pound paddy)born
miraculously. Still the comet metaphor of musala is clear!
As per Brihat samhita and other scientific texts, Brahma-
danda is a comet.
VISHNU PURANA INDICATES THAT KRISHNA LIVED FOR
NEARLY 100 YEARS.
IN THE ABOVE ANALYSIS WE MAY TAKE THAT HE WAS
ABOUT 16 YEARS WHEN HE FIRST VISITED MATHURA.
HARIVAMSHA SAYS HE WAS IN-BETWEEN A BOY AND A
YOUTH. HARIVAMSHA MENTIONS ABOUT A COMET
AROUND THAT TIME (~1523 BC)
THERE IS A COMET OBSERVATION IN SKANDA PURANA
BEFORE KRISHNA’S FINAL DEPARTURE (1443-44 BC).
MB’s Musala could be an euphemism for a comet!!
THIS TIME PERIOD COULD BE ABOUT 75-80 YEARS. WE
CAN QUESTION WHETHER A COMET WHICH REPEATS AT
NEARLY 75-80 YEARS COULD HAVE BEEN MENTIONED BY
THE SANSKRIT TEXTS. SUCH A COMET IS HALLEY’S
COMET. ITS ORBIT IN ANCIENT PERIODS HAS BEEN
COMPUTED BY ASTRONOMERS.
HALLEY’S COMET: 1986 AD to 2647 BC, J.L.BRADY,
J. BRITISH ASTRO. ASSOCIATION, 1982
Excavations at
Mahabharata sites
(B.B.Lal)
Hastinapura and
Ahichhatra.
Pottery belonging to
1100-1200 BC.
The fortunate find
in the seventies, at a
tomb in
Mawangdui, China,
of a Han dynasty
(168 BC) silk comet
atlas sheds
considerable light
on earlier enigmatic
motifs. Most
interesting is the
SWASTIKA, a
sacred symbol in
Indian culture.
Trishula, Vel could
also be metaphors
for comets.
BHAGAVATHA PURANA, 12TH BOOK
PARIKSHIT TO MAHANANDA: 1115 YEARS
NAVA-NANDAS: 100 YEARS
CHANDRAGUPTA AND MAURYAS : 137 YEARS