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!-1EMOR.~'tIDUM for t he Record 29 August, 1978

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Subj: In£o~-ma~ion request solicitation

The enclosed chronology was drafted for the S group securi~y officer

and is fon.ardec for info~ation.

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provided to maintain perspective.

Mondav, 10 July. 1978 Checked aboard. Ft. l'isade
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'o::-isf by 115 my position

and relatec. I nac checked with D4 on ttis

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NOTI:: Upon check~ng ~~to a comr~~d ~ do not generally s~:aoe this
"::.":-:- . problem till I am settled in but in this case I was due to attend is. U?O
Symposium in Dayton, O:-~io on the thought it

prope::- to notify ~3A beca~se of the ::-emote possibility of s~·w.posiu:n

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getting so~e national ~e~~a cove::-age and the possibility t~t my name
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or photo 5_aph might be associated hith suoh coverage.

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Sa turdav and Sundav . Attended ..ne ." 1978 UFO
Symposium, Dayton, Ohio. On saturday a p::-o~:~ "~s presen~ed by a Mr.
Stringfield and as an aSju...~ct he introd.uced a 1'lr. Robert :B~'.

and showed pUbliclY,t"o letters he allegetly Ny

immeaiate opir~on was that the letters we::-e fraudulent.

duced :to ~..r. Stringfield 2.:ld ::-eq,uested. co::Pies of the letters. I explaiDed

tr~t I felt "tr~t the lette::-s were frauds and tr~t ! thought I could possibly

r~ve them checked out.

Thu:::-sc.av. '1 AUE:ust Contacted NSA•••••••••••••~ on the matte= of the

letters, nho intU-T"Il refe=::-ed me to • _IlL .:_21.11_ • req,uested

I prOVide them hith copies of the letters, nhioh I tid, wherein they even tully

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wrote to Mr. Ba:J;.'~"'.

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_.. NOTE: During the pe::-ioc. t.hat. I discussed .'
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and some people in ~~e UFO commur.ity, I rae developed so:e suspicions,

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Sunday. 27 AU&rust 4••••• C::>"1 "1 ed me at app=o:>:ir':.ately 2000.

nearly O:le hou=. lie to of h:"s _··_.lo for

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.' t.he process of lett~~g t.he proper people l:noft I ~~ aboart, \,.'D4) , his nazae
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came up in relation to someone else request.ing information from NSA and
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tha. t the fact it"2.S t.ha t NSA ::-ecorC.s did. not reflect that he had ever'j 'Wo::-ked.

for them. lie expla.ined "~zt ~~s former 2Ssociation 'Wit.h NSA was. He had been ,

from 196:3 to 1966, 1..n AS;" a..."ld at one time had been a shift su?erviso= at a

c=it-a-com relay F 7 The disc~ssio~ t~-ne~ to gene~al

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D?O topics a.~d some gen~ conve::-sation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . NSAs role, ie.

they both provide a service a.~d/o= a product to many gove::-nment agencies.

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'Then ~.:' zed me 'if it ~ou1d be possible' .tor ne to do some looking

around ~t NSA for UFO related information. He further expl~ined t~~t he did
not mean covert looking but openly checking en ~~~t ever I could. I told him ',,:...0: ,"
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my standard ~nswer, that the only thing I could do "~s to watch for infor~~tion

~nd to note its declassification d~te, then, if it was or would be declassified,

I would either request the info~tion myself or queue sOE~one on the outside
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to request the inform~tion from the originator. He brought up the f~ct that ..: ; ..:-..:.' .
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"some thL'"1gs could be decl~ssified siAilply by asking", suggesti.'"lg that one can :" -:

not ask for something that they did not knoH of its existe:r;ce. I told him

tr~t in that c~se I would have to work that proble~ strickly from the inside
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untill such documents or information was deFlassified. I went on to exp'l a in

to him t~~t I work in COHSEC, which term he understood, and tr~t I Hould have

very little opportunity, any,' to ever find out if any such information

existed. Further tb..at 1."1 my exper.ience with the Navy tha.t in general I had

seen very little inforIna.tion of interest to the U~O cO~ilunity and that nhen

I had it "~ not in an official UFO context. He then explained thc::.t he under-

stood tba. t there nas certai.'I'} i.'"lfroIl'~ tion tha. t, he, nor andone else in the

civilian community, would ever see because of methods and/o'r sources, but,

for e~aple he YJnew that the National COmE~nd Center had sent UFO inforrr.ation

to NSA as part of an address group •

.All in all he nas requesting me to Hatch out for UFp related inforffiation
within NSA, which I tend to do on my own, but he n~S re~uest;ng that I pass
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on nhat I could. I, all in all, left hiln with the understanding that I nas .

very limited in what I could do. I have, to some degree, checked o ~

~ character with some people nho have worked with him more closely.

There is some thou5ht" th.=.t he ~ould be capable of be Ing behtnd t ~

fraud ~nd that he is ~?t to go to' most any length to collect ;nformation or

to bend facts to fit his needs.

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he may. either privately. or worse, .publicly attempt to ~~~e it look as if I

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am an L~side contact ~ith NSA fo!:' hL~. O!:', on the other'~~~d, he may elude

to hav~lg such a contact for yea=s, the~ when he feels it appropriate or when

cornered, hope to produce ~e as t~~t cor-tact.

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h~ in this situation. I have ta.Iked with him in a frank.' clear mannex

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that sho~ld have conveyed to him'my position and I feel, withcut specific .•.. ,; ....., ;.
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examples of his be;~g dishonest, I should give hL~ a ch~~ce of bUilding a

productive ;;orkmg relationship. As for his req,uest for i.~fon:lation, from

wpzt I know of the man I expected him to ~~e such a forward approach upon : .. ",". ~.:
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meeting, though I did not a..~ticipate h~~ looking me up. I ~~ess I should have

expec ced that too.

Any further cor-tact o~ requests for ;~forn~t~on will be reported •

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