Confirmation of Actuarial Queries - 3
Confirmation of Actuarial Queries - 3
1. There are cases where back-dated applied. The data occur in 2023, Company
received the Premium in 2023 but the insurance start date is backdated to 2021.
Is it allowed to recognize the insurance contract from the initial date the
premium is received (2023)? Or this should be from insurance start date (2021)?
What is the +/- (impact) for those options?
If recognition at the initial date the premium is received is allowed, how far the
time gap is allowed between insurance start date and premium received date?
Fyi, Perta is planning to use following approach:
• Non-Saving Product: Insurance start date (2021)
• Saving Product: Initial date the premium is received by the Company (2023)
- The Beginning of the Coverage Period of the Group of Contracts: This is the
date when the insurance coverage begins.
- The Date When the First Payment from a Policyholder in the Group Becomes
Due: This is the date when the company becomes entitled to a payment from
the policyholder.
- The Date on Which the Group Becomes Onerous: This is the date when it is
determined that the group of contracts will result in a net outflow of
resources, i.e., the group is expected to be loss-making.
For the non savings contract: In this scenario, the earliest date is the beginning of
the coverage period in 2021. The recognition of the insurance contracts is not
dependent solely on the receipt of the first premium but rather on the initiation of
the coverage period.
Discount rate
The top-down approach is a method used to derive discount rates for insurance
liabilities under IFRS 17. This approach begins with the yields on a reference
portfolio of assets, such as high-quality corporate or government bonds, and
adjusts these yields to reflect the characteristics of the insurance contract cash
flows, including the removal of the credit risk premium and adjustments for
liquidity.
- Determine the portion of the yield that compensates for the credit risk. This
involves comparing the yields on corporate bonds with the yields on risk-free
government bonds of similar maturities.
- Subtract the credit risk premium from the observed yields of the corporate
bonds to arrive at a yield that represents a risk-free rate adjusted for
liquidity.
Example
1. Observed Yields:
o Government bond yield (risk-free rate): 2%
o Liquid corporate bond yield: 3.5%
o Illiquid corporate bond yield: 4.5%
2. Calculate Credit Risk Premium:
There are differences when calculating the illiquidity premium for the bottom
up approach.
The bottom-up approach involves starting with a risk-free rate and then adding
adjustments for the liquidity characteristics of the insurance contract cash
flows. This approach is directly opposite to the top-down approach, where you
start with observed yields and subtract risk premiums. Here’s a step-by-step
guide on how to implement the bottom-up approach:
Step-by-Step Process
• “Starting Point: Begin with the yield curve for high-quality corporate or
government bonds”
Please provide the step by step on how to determine the yield curve for high-
quality corporate or government bonds.
Is there any difference between government bonds in this step and
government bond (risk free rate) in bottom-up approach?
Ensure Data Accuracy: Verify that the data collected is accurate and up-to-
date.
Organize Data: Create a spreadsheet or database to organize the bond data
by maturity, coupon rate, and current market price.
Determine Yield to Maturity (YTM): Calculate the YTM for each bond if it is
not already provided.
Step 4: Plotting the Yield Curve
• Can you please explain on how remove the credit risk premium inherent in
the bond yields?
See top-down approach answer above
Are there any differences in the methodology used to determine the discount
rate and locked-in rate? or they use the same methodology and the difference
only as stated in the first paragraph?
Under IFRS 17, insurance companies use discount rates to measure the present
value of future cash flows related to insurance contracts. The standard
distinguishes between the "locked-in rate" and regularly updated discount
rates, and their application depends on the nature of the measurement model
being used.
Locked-in Rate
Definition: These rates are updated to reflect current market conditions and are
used for the fulfilment cash flows, which include the present value of future
cash flows and the risk adjustment.
Purpose: The regularly updated discount rates ensure that the measurement of
the fulfilment cash flows reflects the current economic environment.
Both the locked-in rate and the regularly updated discount rates can be derived
using similar methodologies
If during the valuation process there is differences between lock-in rate and
discount rate, What is the impact? Does the impact go to OCI or P&L?
The impact of differences between the locked-in rate and updated discount rates
depends on Perta’s accounting policy choice for presenting the effects of changes in
discount rates. According to IFRS 17, entities can choose to present the effects of
changes in discount rates either in profit or loss (P&L) or in other comprehensive
income (OCI). This will need to be documented in your TPP for both accountants and
actuaries.
4. Who will be responsible for determination of discount rate, lock in rate and
illiquidity premium? Actuarial or investment department? What is the common
practice in insurance industries?
It will be a collaborative effort to produce the discount rates. From what I have
seen in other industries, the following are some of the responsibilities for each
of the departments:
Actuarial Department:
Investment Department:
Risk Adjustment
5. Perta will use margin approach, but this margin (x%) will be embedded to the
best estimate projection cashflow instead of the best estimate assumptions.
Have you found the same approach in the market? Is it allowed? Any
recommendation on how to determine the margin (x%)? Or you will still
recommend adding the margin to the best estimate assumption instead of
projection cashflow?
Embedding a margin (x%) into the best estimate projection cash flows instead of
the best estimate assumptions is not an approach I have seen in the market,
though it may exist. The more typical approach is to add the margin to the best
estimate assumptions. However, IFRS 17 does not explicitly prohibit embedding
margins directly into the cash flows, provided that the overall measurement
objective of the standard is met.
IFRS 17 Guidance on Margins
• Paragraph 37: The risk adjustment for non-financial risk is the compensation an
entity requires for bearing the uncertainty about the amount and timing of the
cash flows that arise from non-financial risk as the entity fulfills insurance
contracts.
The more conventional approach, which aligns closely with the IFRS 17 requirements,
involves adding the margin to the best estimate assumptions rather than embedding it
directly in the cash flows. Here’s why:
Recommendations
I recommend that Perta conducts a thorough investigation to identify the most suitable
RA method for their needs. Observations in the Indonesian market indicate that the
Value at Risk (VaR) approach at a 75% confidence level is commonly employed.
Adopting a method not widely used in the market could attract scrutiny from regulators.
Therefore, aligning with prevalent practices is advisable to ensure regulatory
compliance and minimise potential challenges.
UAT Process for IFRS17 Modelling in the Prophet
6. Perta will be doing UAT for IFRS17 Modelling in the Prophet. Could you please
advise what scenarios that are usually tested under UAT?
Is it possible for you to share all scenarios that need to be tested and the output
expectation so Perta can have a sense of it?
7. Majority of the portfolio is group products, and even though the premium is
overdue for over 1 year, this contract is still considered as active. Do you have
any comments on this? What is the impact if the Company keep assuming those
contracts as active or inactive?
1. Review Contract Terms: Carefully review the terms and conditions of the
group contracts to determine the appropriate treatment of overdue
premiums.
2. Assess Payment History: Evaluate the payment history and likelihood of
recovering overdue premiums to make informed decisions about the active
status of the contracts.
3. Update Assumptions: Regularly update assumptions and models to reflect
the true status of contracts based on the latest available information.
4. Regulatory Alignment: Ensure alignment with IFRS 17 and local regulatory
requirements in the treatment of overdue premiums and the active status of
contracts.
Expenses are discussed in the separate mail with Maeline and accounting team.
Other Topics
9. Can you please explain more about swing premium for accrual? What is it? What
is the use of it and how the Company apply it? Should the Company consider it
in the assumption? How to determine the assumption? What is the impact?
TBC