DTR Fat Tur 800 MN

FabrykaAutomatów Tokarskich
we Wrocławiu S.A.
Grabiszyńska Street 281
PL-53-234 Wrocław Poland
Tel: (+48) (0) 71/36.09.100
Fax: (+48) (0) 71/36.09.121
e-mail: [email protected] ; [email protected]
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INSTRUCTION MANUAL
TECHNISCHE BETRIEBSANLEITUNG
DOCUMENTATION TECHNIQUE DU SERVICE ET D’ENTRETIEN
DESCRIPCION TECNICA
MANUNALE DI ISTRUZIONI
TUR 800 / 930 MN

NUMERICALLY CONTROLLED LATHE
NC-GESTEUERTE DREHMASCHINE
TOUR UNIVERSEL PROGRAMMABLE
TORNO AUTOMATICO CNC
Serial No / Matricola .....................

Year of manufacture / Anno di fabbricazione .....................
FAT S.A. A Member of the HACO Group Ref: TUR 800_930_ MN/English/02.02
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Table of contents
TABLE OF CONTENTS
0. FOREWORD
1. INDUSTRIAL SAFETY INSTRUCTION
2. TECHNICAL CHARACTERISTIC
2.1. TECHNICAL DESCRIPTION OF THE TUR 800/930 MN ................................. 2-2

2.1.1. Headstock .............................................................................................................. 2-2
2.1.2. Carriage ................................................................................................................ 2-3
2.1.3. Bed......................................................................................................................... 2-3
2.1.4. Tailstock ................................................................................................................ 2-4
2.1.5. Follow rest ............................................................................................................ 2-4
2.1.6. Steady rest ............................................................................................................. 2-6
2.1.6.1 Steady rest 30mm(1,2") – 340mm(7") - (roller) .........................................................................................2-7
2.1.6.2 Steady rest 310mm(12,2") – 480mm(18,9") - (roller) ................................................................................2-8
2.1.6.3 Steady rest 480mm (18,9”) – 760mm (29,9”) (roller). ...............................................................................2-9
2.1.7. Lubrication ............................................................................................................ 2-9
2.2. SPECIFICATIONS ................................................................................................. 2-10
2.3. DIMENSIONS .......................................................................................................... 2-12
2.4. MAXIMUM LOADING .......................................................................................... 2-13
2.5. WORKING AREA .................................................................................................. 2-15
2.6. KINEMATIC DIAGRAMS .................................................................................... 2-18
3. PREPARING FOR STARTING UP

3.1. UNPACKING, LIFTING MACHINE AND IN-PLANT TRANSPORTATION 3-2
3.1.1. Unpacking/cleaning/ removing the rust preventive: ............................................. 3-2
3.1.2. Unloading/lifting the machine............................................................................... 3-3
3.2. INSTALLATION SITE, REQUIRED SPACE, FOUNDATION DRAWING,
LEVELLING OF MACHINE ................................................................................. 3-3
3.2.1. Required space ...................................................................................................... 3-4
3.2.2. Foundation drawing .............................................................................................. 3-9
3.2.3. Levelling of machine ........................................................................................... 3-10
3.3. CONNECTING UP TO MAINS SUPPLY ............................................................ 3-11
3.4. BEFORE SWITCHING MACHINE ON .............................................................. 3-15
3.5. CHUCK MOUNTING ............................................................................................. 3-18
3.6. INITIAL STARTING UP OF THE LATHE ........................................................ 3-19
4. MAINTENANCE/SERVICE INSTRUCTIONS
4.1. LUBRICATION SYSTEM ....................................................................................... 4-2
4.1.1. Lubrication system bed slideways ......................................................................... 4-2
4.1.2. Lubrication system gear box ................................................................................. 4-4
4.1.3. Lubrication schedule ............................................................................................. 4-5
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4.2. ADJUSTMENTS ........................................................................................................ 4-6
4.2.1. Headstock .............................................................................................................. 4-7
4.2.2. Belt change ............................................................................................................ 4-8
4.2.3. Belt tension ............................................................................................................ 4-9
4.2.4. Cross slide ........................................................................................................... 4-10
4.2.5. Saddle .................................................................................................................. 4-11
4.2.6. Spindle bearings .................................................................................................. 4-11
4.2.7. Tailstock .............................................................................................................. 4-13
4.2.8. Axis movement and backslash ............................................................................. 4-14
4.2.9. Setting the stops of axis ....................................................................................... 4-15
4.3. LOGBOOK SIEMENS AND SERVICE POINTS SIEMENS ............................ 4-16
5. OPERATION / SERVICES
5.1. MACHINE LAYOUT................................................................................................ 5-3
5.2. TAILSTOCK .............................................................................................................. 5-4
5.2.1. Moving the tailstock manually .............................................................................. 5-5
5.2.2. Moving the tailstock by using the carriage ........................................................... 5-5
5.3. COOLANT SYSTEM ................................................................................................ 5-5
5.4. SPINDLE SPEED RANGE SELECTION .............................................................. 5-7
5.4.1. Automatic change gear range (standard) ............................................................. 5-8
5.4.2. ............................................................................................................................... 5-8
5.5. OPERATOR PANEL WITH KEYPAD PUSHBUTTONS ................................... 5-9
5.6. MANUAL OPERATION OF THE MACHINE ................................................... 5-15
5.6.1. Switching on the machine.................................................................................... 5-15
5.6.2. Taking reference point ........................................................................................ 5-15
5.6.3. Moving the axis with pushbuttons ....................................................................... 5-16
5.6.4. Moving the axis with the handwheels .................................................................. 5-17
5.6.5. Starting the spindle ............................................................................................. 5-17
5.7. TOOL CHANGING ................................................................................................ 5-19
5.7.1. Manual Toolpost (Multifix or other) ................................................................... 5-19
5.7.1.1 T_code........................................................................................................................................................5-19
5.7.1.2 Tool change in Manual Mode ....................................................................................................................5-19
5.7.1.3 Tool change in Program Mode ...................................................................................................................5-19
5.7.1.4 Tool change in CNC Mode ........................................................................................................................5-20
5.7.1.5 Tool change with DIN/ISO programming ..................................................................................................5-20
5.7.2. Automatic 8-position toolturret (option) ............................................................. 5-20
5.7.2.1 T-code ........................................................................................................................................................5-20
5.7.2.2 Tool change in Manual Mode ....................................................................................................................5-21
5.7.2.3 Tool change in Programme Mode ..............................................................................................................5-21
5.7.2.4 Tool change in CNC Mode ........................................................................................................................5-21
5.7.2.5 Tool change with DIN/ISO programming ..................................................................................................5-22
5.8. TROUBLE SHOOTING ......................................................................................... 5-22
5.8.1. Procedure limit switch axis – emergency stop .................................................... 5-22
5.8.2. Wrong turret position .......................................................................................... 5-23
5.8.3. Reference point – wrong direction ...................................................................... 5-23
5.8.4. List of alarm messages ........................................................................................ 5-23
5.8.5. List of M-functions, G-codes, T-codes ................................................................ 5-25
5.9. SPECIAL FUNCTIONS (OPTION) ...................................................................... 5-34
5.9.1. Second reference point ........................................................................................ 5-34
5.9.2. Chip conveyor ..................................................................................................... 5-34
5.9.3. Hydraulic aggregate ........................................................................................... 5-36

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5.9.4. Hydraulic cylinder and power chuck .................................................................. 5-36
5.9.5. Hydraulic tailstock (option) ................................................................................ 5-36
5.9.6. Spindle indexing/automatic 8-position toolturret with live tooling .................... 5-36
5.9.7. Safety switch between tailstock and cross slide (option) .................................... 5-46
5.10. DATA TRANSFER.................................................................................................. 5-46
5.10.1. Interface parameter 810D ................................................................................... 5-46
5.10.2. Interface parameter PC....................................................................................... 5-47
5.10.3. Data transfer cable ............................................................................................. 5-47
5.10.4. Transferring programme and other data using CNC mode ................................ 5-47
5.10.5. Transferring programme using MANUAL TURN mode. ................................... 5-49
6. PROGRAMMING
6.1. SINUMERIK MANUAL TURN - SHORT GUIDE ............................................... 6-3
6.2. OPERATION/ PROGRAMMING MANUAL TURN ......................................... 6-39
7. ACCESSORIES
7.1. STANDARD MACHINE EQUIPMENT: ............................................................... 7-2
7.2. OPTIONAL MACHINE EQUIPMENT: ................................................................ 7-3
8. TECHNICAL ACCEPTANCE AND GEOMETRICAL ACCURACY

8.1. GEOMETRICAL ACCURACY INSPECTION SHEET (ACCORDING TO DIN
8606) AND OPERATING ACCURACY ................................................................ 8-2
8.2. SOUND LEVEL MEASUREMENT REPORT ...................................................... 8-5
9. ELECTRIC AND ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT PART LIST
10. DRAWINGS AND SPARE PARTS
11. DOCUMENTATION
11.1. DOCUMENTATION SPINDLE AND AXIS MOTORS
11.2. DOCUMENTATION OF BEDWAY LUBRIFICATION SYSTEM0
11.3. DOCUMENTATION 8-POSITION TOOLTURRET
11.4. DOCUMENTATION OF HYDRAULIC AGGREGATE
11.5. DOCUMENTATION POWER ACTUATED CHUCK
11.6. DOCUMENTATION CHIP CONVEYOR

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0 0.Foreword 0
FOREWORD
We would like to thank you for choosing our FAT MANUAL TURN
MN machine. The lathes MN bring together the requirements for better
machining...high precision, easy to operation, quick way from drawing to
workpiece, low maintenance and special features for today’s modern shop.
With proper care, it will give you superior working finishes for years to
come.
This operating and maintenance manual will assist you in operating and
maintaining this quality machine tool.
The reference manual is meant for the following staff who, before
commencement of operational use, must thoroughly study its
information content:
1. Process engineer
2. Lathe operator
3. Head of maintenance and repair service
4. Head of production shop operating the machine tool
To ensure full and proper utilisation of the machine tool and extend
its operation life, lower operational costs and obtain optimum economic
effects, the following should be observed:
 comply with industrial safety regulation. For this purpose, the
operating instruction; lubricating instruction and work safety
recommendation should be available in the vicinity of the lathe in a
visible and accessible place;
 follow the requirements and directions of this manual in the
scope of operation and maintenance. Keep the machine tool clean,
perform continuous maintenance and immediately eliminate any defects
and minor damages noticed;
 entrust operation of the machine tool only to persons having
appropriate training and well acquainted with the information content of
this manual.

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NOTE
Due to the constant introduction of technical improvements, this

reference manual relates only to the machine tool with which it is delivered.
Rights are reserved to changes in design, less important dimensions without
information in this manual. The manual is systematically updated by the
manufacturer.

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1 1. Industrial safety instruction 1
1. Industrial safety instruction
Erect the lathe in the appropriate enclosure on a foundation made as per

the directions in point 3 in such a way that there is convenient and safe access
to the operating elements of the lathe, as well as the guards, doors opened dur-
ing adjustments, lubrication and inspections.
Before proceeding to work, check that the machine tool and the control
cabinet have been earthed-neutralized.
Ensure lighting of the workplace (200 - 500 Lx). Only a worker, who has
undergone an appropriate training and has good knowledge of this Manual’s
content, may have the right to independently operate the machine tool.
The technological process personal should be trained in the scope of pre-

paring production on CNC machine tools. The clamping of cutting tools and
workpieces should be secure and reliable so as not to allow any wrenching
loose caused by cutting forces. The initial starting up of the machine tool
should be entrusted to a person with considerable skills and experience in this
field. Before starting the lathe, close the front and rear guards, with the electri-
cal interlock on.
Before starting the lathe, check for proper setting of operating elements
(pushbuttons, knobs, levers, switches, etc.).
It is forbidden to utilise the machine tool or a given unit after confirming

damage to any electrically, mechanically or hydraulically safeguarding, inter-
locking and setting elements and equipment.
Cleanliness and order of the work station form the basis for good organi-
sation and safety. In order to create conditions that ensure optimum output and
work safety, the work station should be provided with auxiliaries such as cabi-
net, shelves for storage of tooling, hand tools for operating and servicing the
individual units, platforms, brushes, etc.
The lathe operator should wear close fitting protective clothing and hel-
met, precluding any possibility of being caught by the rotating elements.
Each time before starting the lathe after an extended shut down, manually
switch on the lubrication system for preliminary lubrication.
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It is forbidden to operate the lathe after confirming damage to safety ele-

ments.

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DETAILED REQUIREMENTS
The machine tool operator should:
 not operate the machine until he has read and understood this safety
manual thoroughly,
 not operate the machine until he has read and understood the operation
and maintenance manual,
 never operate a machine after using non-prescription drugs, taking strong
medication or consuming alcoholic drinks,
 keep an area clean and dry, remove chips, oil and other obstacle,
 not permit strangers to the machine tool without the knowledge of supe-
riors,
 check that the machine tool is in proper working order before commenc-
ing work,
 check that all the guards and protectors are in their proper places,
 check that the control cabinet door is closed,
 any defects noticed before commencing or during work as well as any
abnormalities, should be reported to the superior,
 not bring the head or hand close to rotating elements,
 not operate the machine tool after confirming damage to elements affect-
ing work safety,
 before switching on the main switch or putting the machine tool into mo-
tion, it should be checked that this task does not form an accident hazard
to another person,
 maintain the workplace in order, do not leave tools scattered freely on
the machine tool, but use the cabinets or shelves provided for this pur-
pose,
 take care to have tools and operating elements in good order,
 the stopped machine tool should be protected against accidental switch-
ing on (in case of cleaning lubricating, or other intervals in work- switch
off the main switch),
 for larger repairs and adjustments, flow of current to the control cabinet
should be completely cut off, and then the wires L1; L2 ; L3 removed
from the terminal strip and bare ends insulated.
 it is forbidden to switch off supply to the machine tool by means of the
main switch on the control cabinet or on external main switch, with the
main drive on and the spindle rotating under normal working conditions.

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THE LATHE HAS THE FOLLOWING
INDUSTRIAL SAFETY PROTECTIONS
 Front chip guards interlock;

 „Emergency Stop” pushbutton;
 Protective system and caution plates;
 Chuck guard;
 Belt transmission guard interlock.

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INDUSTRIAL SAFETY - SUPPLEMENTARY
Work safety recommendations (to be placed on the machine tool)
 Only a worker, who has undergone an appropriate training and has a

good knowledge of this Manual’s content, may have the right to inde-
pendently operate the machine tool.
 Before starting the machine tool check the proper setting of operating el-
ements and selection of machine parameters.
 Before starting the machine tool, shut the control cabinet door.
 The machine tool operator should wear close fitting protective clothing.
 Before switching on the machine tool, check that this task does not form
an accident hazard to another person.
 Do not bring the head or hand close to rotating and moving elements.
 In case of incorrect operation of the machine tool, switch it off and report
to the superior.
 Clamping of workpieces and cutting tools should be secure and reliable
so as not to allow any wrenching loose caused by cutting forces.
 Loading bares on the rear chuck:
If the operator wants to clamp bares and load from the back side of the
spindle, he has first to disassemble the spindle bore protection on the
back side of the spindle. If the workpiece is coming outside the spindle,
the operator has to place protection device around the machine. After
use, the spindle bore cover has to be assembled again and fixed with the
2 screws.
 Maximum speed of the spindle:
The operator has to verify the maximum allowed speed of the chuck (in-
dicated on the chuck) and has to limit the speed of the spindle according-
ly. If the operator is working with workpieces, which are coming outside
the rear spindle, consequently the spindle speed has to be limited.
 The tailstock has to be used according to instructions in points 2.1.4 and
4.2.6, and has to be well clamped before working. The tailstock can not
be unclamped or lifted during working.
 Responsible and authorised service technicians who have good technical
knowledge of the machine and the technical documentation can only
open the motor protector. After opening, the motor protector has to be
good closed and well fixed with the previewed screws.

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 Authorised technicians can only open the electrical cabinet. The contact
plug 220 V is only preview to connect programming unit or portable
computer.
 Key switch. You find explanation about the use of this switch in point
5.5. There are 4 positions according to the security/safety level and the
operation mode:
- Position 0 (without key): machine is blocked and can not be
used
- Position 1 (black key): preview for normal operation and can
be used by operator
- Position 2 (green key): without use/function on our machine
- Position 3 (red key): can only be used by authorised service
technicians.
Position 3 is used in the following 2 situations:
- Procedure to unblock after emergency stop or blocking of the

axes – blocking limit switches: see procedure emergency stop
come back. (point 5.8.1)
- Working with limited safety: in normal operation (position 1),
the machine can work only with the covers closed by the inter-
lock switches. In position 3, and only in Manual mode, the ma-
chine can work with doors which are controlled only by the
approximate switch , mounted in the chuck cover area. In no case
the machine operator can work in this limited safety mode.

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2 2. Technical characteristic 2
2. Technical characteristics
2.1. TECHNICAL DESCRIPTION OF THE TUR 800/930 MN................................... 2-2

2.1.1. Headstock ....................................................................................................................................... 2-2
2.1.2. Carriage .......................................................................................................................................... 2-3
2.1.3. Bed .................................................................................................................................................. 2-3
2.1.4. Tailstock .......................................................................................................................................... 2-4
2.1.5. Follow rest ...................................................................................................................................... 2-4
2.1.6. Steady rest....................................................................................................................................... 2-6
2.1.6.1 Steady rest 30mm(1,2") -340mm(13,4") - (roller) .....................................................................................2-7
2.1.6.2 Steady rest 310mm(12,2") – 480mm(18,9") - (roller) ................................................................................2-8
2.1.6.3 Steady rest 480mm (18,9”) – 760mm (29,9”) (roller). ...............................................................................2-9
2.1.7. Lubrication ..................................................................................................................................... 2-9
2.2. SPECIFICATIONS ................................................................................................. 2-10
2.3. DIMENSIONS .......................................................................................................... 2-12
2.4. MAXIMUM LOADING .......................................................................................... 2-13
2.5. WORKING AREA ................................................................................................... 2-15
2.6. KINEMATIC DIAGRAMS .................................................................................... 2-18

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TECHNICAL DESCRIPTION OF THE TUR 800/930 MN
TUR MN is a manual/CNC combination high-precision lathe.

Equipped with the very latest Siemens SINUMERIK 810D Manual Turn control
system and AC drives it became a production unit for manufacturing the high
precision, complicated parts made as one-off or in small batches.
When the machine is equipped with such options as hydraulically operated power
chuck and tailstock, chip conveyor, automatic selection of spindle speed range
and electric automatic 8-position turret with live tooling, it offers efficiency of a
modern flat bed CNC lathe.
The great advantage to the user of this lathe is the possibility of employing the
highly developed techniques without any special knowledge of programming.
Reduced machining times, the highest and uniform precision of all parts in the
batch as well as taking away from the operator his routine work demonstrate the
new level of production efficiency.
The TUR MN lathe is equipped with control elements traditionally used on
modern manual centre lathe, such as hand wheels and the digital readout system.
Therefore the machine offers to its operator the possibility to operate it in the
conventional manner.
The sequence of motions can involve a single element of machining, a fixed cycle
or a complete program. The first steps are easy to master and you can then
gradually increase the level of complexity. Right through to user-friendly
Easystep programming, ready cycles and full CNC automatic mode.
The spindle speed is infinitely adjustable from the minimum until maximum
speed. CSS (Constant Surface Speed) is programmable. To ensure a high torque
at low speeds, the machine is equipped with a 2 speed range gearbox which is
automatic changeable programmable in standard execution . The machine is as
standard equipped with manual quick change toolholder (Multifix). To achieve
higher productivity, more flexibility, and to reduce non cutting time, the machine
can be equipped with the automatic electric turret, made by Sauter with static or
live tooling. The hydraulic or pneumatic chuck, hydraulic tailstock quill or chip
conveyor are optionally available.
2.1.1. Headstock
The headstock is of a modern compact design. The spindle runs on high
precision angular contact ball bearings at the front. The shafts and gears are made
of heat treated alloy steel. Due to application of closely supported shafts and
ground gears the headstock runs very smoothly at all speeds. The main spindle is
powered by a Siemens AC variable speed 33 kW (S6-40%) motor. The power is
transmitted to the gearbox by means of multi-V powerbelt.

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To keep the high turning torque at low rpms, the machine is equipped with a
2 range gearbox. The change of spindle speed range is by means of manually
shifted gear (automatic as option). The main motor is also used to brake the
headstock. A separate lubrication unit driven by its own motor lubricates the
headstock’s gears and bearings. A pressure switch ensures that headstock does
not operate without proper lubrication.
2.1.2. Carriage
For the longitudinal travel of the saddle a rigid ball screw of 63 mm dia. is
used (TUR 800/930 MN total length L= 2000-6000 mm). The high precision
ballscrews for X & Z-axes are mounted on high precision bearings to enable
sensitive movement. The drive for Z-axis is transmitted to the ballscrew via
cogbelt from a Siemens AC servomotor, located on the left hand side of the
machine. The Siemens AC servomotor and transmission belt are also used for X-
axis drive (cross slide). Its ball screw is with 40 mm diameter. The bearing
surfaces in the carriage and cross slide are lined with Turcite B type lining to
eliminate stick-slip problems and assure accurate positioning, repeatability and
long life time. The longitudinal and cross slideways are lubricated by a separate
lubrication unit.
The drive is transferred from the servomotor onto the ball screw
transmission through a clearance-free toothed belt transmission of ratio 1:1 (X-
axis).
Here also the drive is obtained through the belt transmission of ratio 1:1,5
(Z-axis) from a servomotor. The servomotors secured to the carriage slide at the
rear of the lathe. The cross slide drive screw is bearing-mounted in ball/angular
bearings. The nut is mounted into the cross slide housing.
Elimination of plays between the cross slide together with the plate on
which the tool head is mounted, and the transverse guideways of the carriage
slide, is performed by means of adjusting wedges. By mounting the electric
motors on the outside of the bed and carriage facilitates their mounting,
servicing and maintenance.
2.1.3. Bed
The bed with two guideways of box-type design is made from high-grade
pearlite cast iron. Double-V guideways, along with the inner V-way for tailstock,
are induction hardened and ground. The heavy-ribbed bed is double walled. This
substantially minimises vibration and improves finishes. The bed is provided with
special chutes enabling an easy flow of chips. The bed width is 622 mm (TUR
800/930 MN). The use of hardened guideways, high rigidity of bed castings
subjected to stress relieving treatment and precise machining ensure a long-life
accurate operation of the lathe.
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2.1.4. Tailstock
The headstock has a rigid structure. Extending the tailstock quill and
moving the tailstock over the bedways follows manually as standard.
The specially extended neck allows more clearance between tailstock body and
cross slide, this design permits better access for machining parts close to the
tailstock center. The extra large (125 or 140 mm ) diameter quill is hardened and
ground and has MT 6 Taper. The tailstock can be easily positioned by carriage
using an quick-disconnecting coupling (option). Only one cam lever clamps and
unclamps tailstock to the bed. Hydraulically operated tailstock quill is offered as
option.
2.1.5. Follow rest

The follow rest mounts on the carriage and moves with it, providing
workpiece support close to the cutting tool, making it ideal for long slender parts
which must be machined between centers.
Capacity for roller jaws mm (inch) 25 (0,98”) 250 (9,8”)

Quill diameter mm (inch) 60 (2,36”)
Thickness mm (inch) 96 (3,78”)
Outside diameter of roller mm (inch) 52 (2,05”)
Specific dynamic capacity of the bearing kg (lbs.) 3150 (6678)
C (for roller rest)
Max. Permissible roller revolution rpm 4200
Width mm (inch) 96 (3,78”)
Tab. 2-1. Follow rest (plain/roller) - characteristic.
Dimensions TUR 800 MN TUR 930 MN

A mm (inch) 638 (25,1”) 638 (25,1”)
B mm (inch) 321 (12,6”) 396 (15,6”)
C mm (inch) 787 (31”) 862 (33,9”)
Weight kg (lbs.) 60 (127) 70 (150)
Tab. 2-2. Follow rest (plain/roller) - main dimensions.

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Figure 2-1. Follow rest – TUR 800/930 MN.
WARNING!
Using the follow rest you should remember that feed of X axis is limited.
The collision is possible when moving in ( X- ) direction!

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2.1.6. Steady rest

The steady rest provides support for long or slender workpieces and allows
heavy cuts without chatter. Capacities are sized for the particular size of the
workpiece.
The following verifications should be thoroughly reviewed and understood prior

to using the steady rest.
1. Check the steady rest capacity and size.
2. Verify load capacity according to Section 2.6.
3. Verify maximum permissible steady rest roller revolutions.
4. Steady rest must be firmly clamped to the bed.
5. Top section of the steady rest must be resting in proper position and
clamped.
6. All quills must be protected from vibration by locking the side screws.
7. The quills must be in proper position to keep the center of the workpiece in
center of the lathe.
8. All rollers must be in contact with the workpiece.
9. When the workpiece is supported by chuck and steady rest, verify axial
movement of workpiece.
• Set indicator on face of workpiece and run the spindle on low RPM for
15 minutes, checking position of arrow on indicator.
• Bearing relubrication intervals depend on degree of oxidation and
churning, on the operating temperature, speed, quality of grease, and on
environmental influences. Recommended bearing relubrication: 200
hours.
Recommended lubricant oil: Mobil DTE 26.

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2.1.6.1 Steady rest 30mm(1,2") – 340mm(13,4") - (roller)
Figure 2-2. Steady rest 30mm (1,2”) – 340 (13,4”).
Capacity mm (inch) 30 (1,2”)–340 (13,4”)

Specific dynamic capacity of the bearing kg (lbs.) 3150(6678)
C (for roller rest)
Tab. 2-3. Steady rest 30mm (1,2”) – 340 (13,4”) characterstic

A mm (inch) 412 (16,2”) 487 (19,2”)
B mm (inch) 931 (36,6”) 1006 (39,6”)
Weight kg (lbs.) 80 (170) 90 (191)
Tab. 2-4. Steady rest 30mm (1,2”) – 340 (13,4”)main dimensions.

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2.1.6.2 Steady rest 310mm(12,2") – 480mm(18,9") - (roller)
Capacity mm (inch) 310(12,2”) – 480(18,9”)

C (for roller rest)
Tab. 2-5. Steady rest 310mm(12,2”) – 480mm(18,9”) - characteristic.

A mm (inch) 412 (16,2”) 487 (19,2”)
B mm (inch) 931 (36,6”) 1006 (39,6”)
Weight kg (lbs.) 90 (190) 100 (212)
Tab. 2-6. Steady rest 310mm(12,2”) – 480mm(18,9”) – main dimensions.

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2.1.6.3 Steady rest 480mm (18,9”) – 760mm (29,9”) (roller).
Capacity mm (inch) 480(18,9”) – 760(29,9”)

C (for roller rest)
Tab. 2-7. Steady rest 480mm(18,9”) – 760mm(29,9”) - characteristic.
Dimensions TUR 930 MN

A mm (inch) 487 (19,2”)
B mm (inch) 1251 (49,25”)
Weight kg (lbs.) 150 (318)
2.1.7. Lubrication
The headstock is lubricated from the lubrication system located in the left-
hand foot.

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The carriage guideways are lubricated from a lubrication pump fastened at
the end of bed.
2.2. SPECIFICATIONS
LATHE TUR 800 MN TUR 930 MN

Swing over bed mm / in 800 / 31,5” 930 / 36,6”
Swing over carriage (Multifix C) mm / in 500 / 19,7” 610 / 24”
Max. weight between centers kg / lbs 3000 / 6600 3000 / 6600
(without steadies)
Max. weight in chuck only kg / lbs 800 / 1700 1000 / 2200
Centre distance : Total length :
(for lathes of machining length 2000) mm / in 2000 / 79” 4400 ./ 173”
(for lathes of machining length 3000) mm / in 3000 / 118” 5400 / 213”
(for lathes of machining length 4000) mm / in 4000 / 157”
3000 6400 / 252”
Headstock :
Number of spindle ranges 2 2
Top spindle speed ranges rpm I:2-360, I:4-300, II:160-
II:200-1800 1500
Spindle nose DIN D1-11 D1-11
55029
Spindle inner taper metric 150 / 5,9” 150 / 5,9”
taper
Spindle bore mm / in 140 / 5,5” 140 / 5,5”
Feeds :
Feed drives-servomotors :
Longitudinal lead screw pitch (Z) mm / in 10 / 0.4
Cross lead screw pitch (X) mm / in 10 / 0.4
Range of longitudinal feeds (Z) m/min 0–6
ipm 0-235
Range of cross feed (X) m/min 0–6
ipm 0-235
Max. force of longitudinal feed (Z) kN / ibf 20 / 4400
Max. force of cross feed (X) KN / ibf 15 / 3300
Range of longitudinal slide travel (Z ) mm / in 2000-3000-4000-5000 6000
79”-118”-157”-197”-236”
Range of cross slide travel (X) mm / in 505 / 19,9” 570 / 22,4”
Cross slide :
Width of cross slide plate mm / in 360 / 14”
Tailstock :
Socket in tailstock spindle MT 6
Tailstock spindle diameter mm / in 125 / 4.9” 140 / 5.5”
Tailstock spindle travel-manual : mm / in 300 / 11,85” 300 / 11,85”
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Tailstock spindle travel-hydraulic: ver1 mm / in 80 / 3,16” 80 / 3,16”
Motors on the machine tool :

Main drive motor rating
at Nn = 1000 rpm/min ; N max = 6000 rpm/min kW / Hp 22 / 30 S1
kW / Hp 27 / 36 S6-60%
kW / Hp 33 / 45 S6-40%
Feed drive motor in X axis:
- rated torque Mn = Nm 15,5
- rated sped Nn = rpm 3000
Feed drive motor in Z axis:
- rated torque Mn = Nm 15,5
- rated speed Nn = rpm 3000
Coolant pump standard version :
Coolant pump motor power kW / Hp 0,09 / 0.12
Coolant pump motor speed rpm 1350
Maximum pressure kPa 40
Maximum volume l/s 0,42
Coolant tank volume l 120
Headstock lubrication pump :
Lubrication pump spindle - motor power kW / Hp 0,37 / 0.5
Lubrication pump spindle - motor speed rpm 1420
Oil tank volume l 15
Slideways lubrication pump :
Lubrication pump slideway - motor ration kW / Hp 0,09 / 0.12
Lubrication pump slideway – motor speed rpm 1400
Overall dimensions (without accompanying units)

and weight of lathe (approximately)
GENERAL TUR 800 MN TUR 930 MN
Width of bed mm / in 622 /24,5” 622/24,5”
Total length of machine
2.000 mm b.c. mm / in 4400 / 173” 4400 / 173”
3.000 mm b.c. mm / in 5400 / 213” 5400 / 213”
4.000 mm b.c. mm / in 6400 / 252” 6400 / 252”
5.000 mm b.c. mm / in 7400 / 292” 7400 / 292”
6.000 mm b.c. mm / in 8400 / 330” 8400 / 330”
Width of machine mm / in 2750 / 108” 2890 / 114”
Height of machine mm / in 2050 / 80,7” 2050 / 80,7”
Weight of machine
2.000 mm b.c. kg / ibs 7300 / 16000 7900 / 17400
3.000 mm b.c. kg / ibs 8300 / 18200 8900 / 19600
4.000 mm b.c. kg / ibs 9300 / 20400 9900 / 2180
5.000 mm b.c. kg / ibs 10300 / 22600 10900 / 2400
6.000 mm b.c. kg / ibs 11300 ./ 24900 11900 / 26200
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2.3. DIMENSIONS
Figure 2-5. DIMENSIONS - TUR 800/930 MN
B E F
Item A Option -
Hydraulic
C D Option-
Chip
Option-
Chip
G H J P K
cylinder conveyer conveyer
TUR 800MN 2000mm 4155mm
x 2000 (79”) (164”)
2056mm (80,9” )
1670mm (65,7” )
2750mm (108” )
TUR 800MN For 3000mm 5155mm

x 3000 TUR 800 (118”) (203”)
TUR 800MN 1360mm 435mm 4000mm 6155mm
x 4000 (53,5”) (17,1”) (157,3”) (242”)
TUR 800MN 5000mm 7155mm
(197”) (282”)
1035mm (40,7” )
x 5000
450 (17.7” )
TUR 800MN 6000mm 8155mm

x 6000 (236”) (321”) 1230mm 1345mm
TUR 930MN 2000mm 4155mm (48,4”) (52,95”)
x 2000 For (79”) (164”)
2056mm (80,9” )
2890mm (114” )
TUR 930MN TUR 930 3000mm 5155mm

1670mm (65,7”
x 3000 435mm (118”) (203”)

1435mm (17,1”)
TUR 930MN 4000mm 6155mm
(56,5”)
x 4000 (157,3”) (242”)
TUR 930MN 5000mm 7155mm
x 5000 (197”) (282”)
TUR 930MN 6000mm 8155mm
x 6000 (236”) (321”)

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2.4. MAXIMUM LOADING
Figure 2-6. Loading - TUR 800/930 MN

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WARNING!
- Please check if the clamping devices (chuck, tailstock center, etc.) are
allowing the indicated loads. If not, reduce the max loads consequently.
- The above mentioned loads are only valid for counter balanced
workpieces (no centrifugal forces)
- Please check if the workpiece and tailstock properly clamped before
starting the spindle

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2.5. WORKING AREA
TUR 800/930 MN D1-11" Camlock

Reduction Sleeve with MT6 Dead Centres (DIN 806)
G C
max 300 Tailstock Dead Centres - MT 6 (DIN 806)
H
Zref
A
F
SPINDLE AXIS 20 E
Df
D
Da
B
Dk
SAUTER DISC: 0.5.901.025.077 287

8- position SAUTER TURRET: 0.5.480.525
Toolholder : VDI 50
Df=outside of tools (depending of type of tools)=ca.450mm
Da=outside of tooldisc=400mm
Dk=pitch of VDI 50 hole = 310mm
Figure 2-7. Working area for Sauter turret type 525

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Figure 2-8. Working area for Multifix – type D1
112
H
Zref
A
20

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Item A A B C D E E F G H
Multifix Sauter Multifix Sauter
2100mm 2050mm 2000mm
TUR 800MN x 2000 (82,7”) (80,7”) (79”)
Sauter
3100mm 3050mm 3000mm
TUR 800MN x 3000 (122”) (120”) (118”)
40mm
(1,57”)
4100mm 4050mm 800mm 4000mm 500mm 455mm 680mm
TUR 800MN x 4000 (161,4”) (159,4”) (31,5”) (157”) (19,7”) (11,6”) (18,7”)
Multifix
5100mm 5050mm 5000mm
TUR 800MN x 5000 195mm
(200,8”) (198,8”) (197”)
(7,67”)
6100mm 6050mm 6000mm
TUR 800MN x 6000 (240”) (238,2”) (236”) 525mm 110mm
2100mm 2050mm 2000mm (20,67”) (4,33”)
TUR 930 MN x 2000 (82,7”) (80,7”) (79”)
Sauter
3100mm 3050mm 3000mm
TUR 930 MN x 3000 (122”) (120”) (118”)
40mm
(1,57”)
4100mm 4050mm 930mm 4000mm 610mm 545 770mm
TUR 930 MN x 4000 (161,4”) (159,4”) (36,6”) (157”) (24,0”) (21,45”) (30,3”)
Multifix
5100mm 5050mm 5000mm
TUR 930 MN x 5000 195mm
(200,8”) (198,8”) (197”)
(7,67”)
6100mm 6050mm 6000mm
TUR 930 MN x 6000 (240”) (238,2”) (236”)
Dimension for working area
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2.6. KINEMATIC DIAGRAMS
Figure 2-9. Kinematic diagram - TUR 800 / 930 MN

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3 3. Preparing for starting up 3
3. Preparing for starting up
3.1. UNPACKING, LIFTING MACHINE AND IN-PLANT TRANSPORTATION . 3-2

3.1.1. Unpacking/cleaning/ removing the rust preventive: ....................................................................... 3-2
3.1.2. Unloading/lifting the machine ........................................................................................................ 3-2
3.2. INSTALLATION SITE, REQUIRED SPACE, FOUNDATION DRAWING,
LEVELLING OF MACHINE .................................................................................. 3-3
3.2.1. Required space................................................................................................................................ 3-3
3.2.2. Foundation drawing ....................................................................................................................... 3-5
3.2.3. Levelling of machine ..................................................................................................................... 3-10
3.3. CONNECTING UP TO MAINS SUPPLY ............................................................. 3-11
3.4. BEFORE SWITCHING ON THE LATHE ........................................................... 3-15
3.5. CHUCK MOUNTING ............................................................................................. 3-17
3.6. INITIAL STARTING UP OF THE LATHE ......................................................... 3-18

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3.1. UNPACKING, LIFTING MACHINE AND IN-PLANT TRANS-

PORTATION
3.1.1. Unpacking/cleaning/ removing the rust preventive:

The lathes are consigned without any packaging, in foil protective covers,
on the pallet or on the wooden beams, depending on transportation means and
the order.
Remove the foil covers if exists than remove the set screws used for hold-
ing the machine on the base.
After receipt of the lathe, its external state and equipment should be
checked.
Before erecting the lathe on the foundation, the protective layer should be
removed from the parts protected against rust, without moving the carriage slides
or the tailstock. The protective layer should be washed off, the surfaces should be
oiled. Due to utilisation of the kerosene-based rust preventive remover, Antykor,
Industrial Safety and fire hazard regulations relating to working with inflammable
materials, should be strictly complied with. It is forbidden to use agents that are
dangerous self-igniting or harmful to health, as well as agents causing damage to
surfaces from where the rust preventive has been removed.
3.1.2. Unloading/lifting the machine
It must be carefully checked the condition of all the lifting equipment and
replaced anything you have the least doubt with a certified item.
Fig 3.1 shows the method of in-plant transportation by means of crane and wire
rope sling.
For this purpose two slings are required. One of them is slung in the rear of
bed. The other one is placed between slides of bed then passes over rib protect-
ed by wooden blocks.
WARNING!
It must be also checked if the minimum lifting capacity of the slings is more
than weight of the machine. For weight of the machine we refer to p. 2.6.
In no case should operating elements and moving parts such as covers, car-
riage, tailstock, spindle bore, toolturret,... be used for lifting the machine.

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Figure 3-1. Lifting the machine

To avoid damaging of paint coatings, protective materials (rags, sponges)
should be used in all places where slings touch the machine housing and form a
risk of such the damage. Avoid shock loading – take up the lift carefully.
The lathe lifted up with a crane should be held horizontally.
The raised up lathe should be levelled by moving the carriage.
3.2. INSTALLATION SITE, REQUIRED SPACE, FOUNDATION

DRAWING, LEVELLING OF MACHINE
3.2.1. Required space

It is recommended to locate the machine in a place away and without
the influence of damping, chemical gas or trembling. Do not site your
lathe near other machinery or plant causing abnormal vibration or electri-
cal interference.

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Figure 3-2. Required space

Allow sufficient area around the machine to ensure easy operation and repara-
tion of the machine, e.g. work loading, chips removal, coolant tank cleaning
and access to the electrical cabinet.
Since these machine tools are constructed with the higher level of accuracy, it
is therefore necessary that they are installed in production shops having better
conditions than average.
This is recommended in case where the user desires to obtain full accuracy of
the machine tool operation.
Recommended operating conditions:

 relative humidity of air 50 to 70% at the temperature of 20°C;
 temperature within the limits 18 to 22°C;
 temperature gradient 0.5°C/h;
 away from all sources of vibrations.
 the level of vibrations of the foundation defined by an accel-
eration of up to 0.5 m/s².
 ambient noise level in the place the lathe is erected 78 dB.

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 lighting of the production shop in which the lathe is operating
should be uni-form and shadow - free;
 the enclosure in which the machine tool is installed should be
free from condensed water, dust and caustic gases.
3.2.2. Foundation drawing
To prepare the lathe for operation, it should be erected on a foundation

made according to Figs 3.3 or 3.4 or on a concrete floor of thickness at least
250 mm.
Holes should be made in the foundation for the foundation bolts. The lathe
together with the foundation bolts should be placed on the foundation in such a
way that the bolts are in the holes, than level the lathe in the longitudinal and
transverse directions with the bolts.
Check the levelling with a level of accuracy 0.02 mm per 1 m.
After levelling, fill the holes with the bolts, with cement mortar, and after
it sets, tighten the nuts of the foundation bolts, simultaneously checking the set-
ting of the lathe with the level. In the final phase, the free space between the
lathe pedestals and the foundation should be filled with the cement mortar.

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Polski
wszystkie wymiary mogą być wykonane

z tolerancją ± 15 mm
English
all dimensions can be make

with tolerance ±15 mm
Deutsch
alles Größe kann Ausführung

mit Toleranz ±15 mm
Figure 3-3. Foundation for 2000/3000/4000 mm distance between cen-

tres (Without chip conveyor )
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Polski

English

Deutsch


tres (Chip conveyor behind leg)

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Polski

English

Deutsch


tres and chip conveyor

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Polski

English

Deutsch

Figure 3-6. Foundation for 6000mm distance between centres. (without or with chip conveyor in middle of leg)

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3.2.3. Levelling of machine
It is necessary to level the machine before starting to operate the machine.
Please prepare the following tools to adjust machine leveling:

1). Accurate levelling gauge (spec. 0,02mm/1000mm or 0,001in/4ft)
2). Two adjustable wrenches
Clean the table surface thoroughly, set one of the spirit-levelling gauge on the
longitudinal direction and the other on the cross direction of the slide.
If there is only one levelling gauge available, then use it on both directions alter-
nately.
Adjust the six levelling screws bolts 4 located the bottom of the machine base (as
shown in Fig 3.5 - optional 1 – Fig 3.6) until the machine is levelled within
0,02mm/1000mm (0,001”/4ft) in both directions.
Lock the nuts 2 on the levelling screws and recheck the level to see whether the
level of machine is still correct.
Figure 3-7. Levelling screw
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Figure 3-8. Levelling foot – optional
SUGGESTION
To keep high precision, for newly installed machine, check its level every
week. When the foundation is rigid enough, you may level the machine once
per 1-3 month.
3.3. CONNECTING UP TO MAINS SUPPLY
WARNING
THE INSTALLATION CAN BE PERFORMED ONLY BY THE AUTHORIZED

PERSONNEL.
The lathe should be connected to the electric mains according to the

electrical diagram TN-C (Fig 3-9), leading the main supply conductor to the
main terminal strip in the control cabinet through the cable grommet in the bot-
tom section of the cabinet.
In table 3-1 are given the minimal sections of the conductors to con-
nect different voltages to the main supply.
Connect the individual, specified wires of the main conductor to the ter-
minals marked: L1; L2; L3. Attention should here be paid to the proper phase
connecting sequence.

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USA USA*) Canada*)
TUR 800/930 MN Standard
Option Option Option
Main supply
3x400[V] 3x460[V] 3x230[V] 3x575[V]
Circuit
Rated current 70 [A] 70 [A] 130 [A] 55 [A]
External protec-
100 [A] 100 [A] 160 [A] 63 [A]
tion fusses
Power Supply 3 [AWG] 3 [AWG] 1/0 [AWG] 5 [AWG]
Wire Size 4x25[mm2] 4x25 [mm2] 4x50[mm2] 4x16[mm2]
*) Option with auto-transformer.
Tab. 3-1. Connection parameters
As the spindle and axes motors are run through electronic drives they
are not phase sensitive. Other motors as coolant pump, lubrication pumps
are direction sensitive but they are all connected in the same sensor. To
ensure the good functioning of sequence please check the functioning of
the lubrication pumps of bedways which is positioned at the end side of
the bed.
To check the good functioning of the lubrication system of the bed-
ways please do the following test:
- switch on the machine (hydro on)
- press the lubrication button of bed ways on control panel
- check the manometer if there was pressure
If the lubrication system was not functioning (no pressure), please change
sequence of main phases.
Earthing, neutralising and protective measures should be performed as
per the regulations of the power station appropriate to the user.
For neutralisation, connect the neutral wire to the terminal PE. For
earthing, connect the earthing wire to the earthing bolt in the right pedes-
tal. The wires secured to the terminals feed electric power through the
main switch signalled by the lamp.
Minimum cross-section of copper wires feeding current to the lathe
amounts to 4x16 mm2 for the voltage of 3x400 V.
All the elements of the electrical equipment ensure proper operation
within the limits 85% to 110% of rated voltage powering the lathe.

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Connection types:
Figure 3-9. Single–line diagram TN–C line supply networks
Symmetrical 4–conductor or 5–conductor three–phase line

TN–C supply , supply network with grounded neutral point which can be
TN–S supply , loaded, with a protective– and neutral conductor connected to
TN–C–S supply the neutral point – depending on the line supply type, using
one or several phases
Figure 3-10. Single–line diagram, TT line supply networks

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Symmetrical 3–conductor or 4–conductor three–phase line supply
network with a directly grounded point, the loads are, for example,
TT supply
connected with ground, which are not electrically connected with the
directly grounded point of the line supply network.
Figure 3-11. Single–line diagram, IT line supply networks
Symmetrical 3–conductor or 4–conductor three–phase line sup-

Connection
ply network without a directly grounded point, i.e. the loads are,
types
for example, connected with ground connections.
WARNING!
For IT/TT networks (Fig 3.10, Fig 3.11):
- Use adequate transformer and set-up as TN-network
- Install safety devices according to local regulations
NOTE
The lathe is delivered with the complete set of factory made conductors.
Particular attention should be paid to connecting up shielded conductors
strictly as per the electrical diagram.
The electric mains connected to the machine tool should satisfy the fol-
lowing additional requirements:

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-breaking of the mains voltage before and after switching on the
main drive and feeds drives, must not exceed dxm 50% of sup-
ply mains voltage and the time duration of the break µ 8° electr.
ATTENTION
Every 30 days of operation of the machine tool, the air filters at air inlets
and outlets of the control cabinet should be cleaned or replaced.
3.4. BEFORE SWITCHING ON THE LATHE
WARNING !
BEFORE STARTING TO PERFORM ANY INSTALLATION MEN-

TIONED IN THIS CHAPTER ALWAYS DISCONNECT THE MA-
CHINE FROM SUPPLY AND WAIT 10 MIN ( HIGH VOLTAGE –
600[V] ON CAPACITOR’S IN MAIN POWER MODULE! )
ONLY AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL CAN PERFORM THE ELEC-

TRICAL WORK ON THE LATHE!
Before starting the machine for the first time, inspect all electrical connec-
tions in the electrical cabinet.
The particular attention should be paid to:
- Connection of main power circuit to the main terminals
- Connection between the module’s terminals (See Picture 1 i 2 ):
REMEMBER !
DISCONNECT THE MACHINE FROM THE ELECTRICAL SUP-

PLY AND WAIT 10 MIN IF THE MACHINE WAS SWITCHED ON
BEFORE ( HIGH VOLTAGE – 600[V] ON CAPACITOR’S IN MAIN
POWER MODULE! )
a) Remove the covers described A1-1, A2-0 AND A1-3 from

main modules (See Picture 1.)
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Picture 1. Covers on the main control modules
b) check each screw “S” on the terminal strips ( See Picture 2.)
Picture 2. Screws on the terminal strips

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c) cover the main modules
- The above can be only performed by the qualified personnel

- The producer does not take any responsibility for damages caused by
not following the above
3.5. CHUCK MOUNTING
Tu r n St u d
In On e Tu r n
Tu r n St u d
Ou t On e Tu r n
Figure 3-12. Chuck mounting
When fitting chucks or faceplates first ensure that the spindle nose and
chuck tapers are clean; mount the chuck and ascertain that the cams lock in the
correct position. When mounting a new chuck it may be necessary to reset the
camlock studs 1 (Fig 3.12). To do this remove the caphead locking screws 3
and set each stud so that the scribed ring 2 is flush with the rear face of the
chuck, and with the circular scallop line with the locking screw hole.
Mount the chuck or faceplate on the spindle nose and tighten the six cams in
turn. When correctly tightened the camlock line on each cam should be be-
tween the two “V” marks on the spindle nose.
Please note that the proper clamping of the chuck is very important condition
for obtaining good precision of the machine. The wrong clamping can cause
lower accuracy of machining and vibration. You must be sure that chuck is
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clamped both on the conical side and on the front side of the spindle nose. If
not, chuck should be slightly regrind until this result is obtained.
3.6. INITIAL STARTING UP OF THE LATHE
After performing the tasks described in points 3.1 to 3.5 of this section,
studying the complete operating instruction and filling the oil tanks for lubrica-
tion, one can proceed with initial starting up according to the description con-
tained in this manual.
The condition for starting up the lathe is closing of the safety devices such as
front chips guard, rear chip guards, belt transmission guard, chuck guard.

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6 6. Programming 6
6. Programming
6.1. SINUMERIK MANUAL TURN - SHORT GUIDE 6-3
6.2. OPERATION/ PROGRAMMING MANUAL TURN 6-39

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7 7. Accesories 7
7. Accessories
7.1. STANDARD MACHINE EQUIPMENT: ................................................................................ 7-2
7.2. OPTIONAL MACHINE EQUIPMENT: ................................................................................. 7-3

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7 7. Accesories 7
7.1. Standard machine equipment:
• Siemens electrical equipment and motorization with Siemens 810D Manual

Turn control – voltage 3 phases 400 V
• Automatic change gear ranges
• Colour RAL 7031/7044/1007
• Quick toolpost type Multifix size D1 (without toolholders and sleeves)
• 2 Worklight (24V)
• Complete coolant system
• Working area enclosure with interlocking
• Automatic lubrication for carriage and cross slide
• Automatic lubrication for headstock
• Manual tailstock with come-along system
• CE conformity
• The TUR 800 /930 Mn is equipped with a large 140mm spindle bore
(Camlock D1-11)

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7 7. Accesories 7
7.2. Optional machine equipment:
• Live center
• Follow rest  25-250 mm,
• Steady rest  30-340 mm,  310-480 mm,  480-760 mm,
• 3-jaw self centering chucks  250 mm,  315 mm ,  400 mm,  500 mm
• 4-jaw self centering chucks  400 mm,  500 mm or  630 mm
• T-slots face plate
• T-slot at back of slide
• Safety switch between tailstock and slide
• 2nd RS 232 connector on electric cabinet
• Hydraulic aggregate
• Hydraulic chuck actuator, with or without through hole, and hydraulic chuck
 315 mm,  400 mm  500 mm, or  630 mm
• Pneumatic actuated chuck
• Hydraulic tailstock
• Chip conveyor
• 8-position tool turret head with tooldisc (VDI 50)
• 4-position automatic horizontal type turret
• Toolholders for Multifix or toolturret
• Reduction sleeve for spindle
• Spindle indexing in combination with 8-position toolturret with live tooling
• Transformer to other voltages then 3 phase 400 V
• Floppy disc 3,5”
• Network connection

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8 8. Technical acceptance and geometrical accuracy 8
8. Technical acceptance and geometrical accuracy
8.1. GEOMETRICAL ACCURACY INSPECTION SHEET (ACCORDING TO DIN

8606) AND OPERATING ACCURACY ................................................................ 8-2
8.2. SOUND LEVEL MEASUREMENT REPORT ...................................................... 8-3

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8.1. GEOMETRICAL ACCURACY INSPECTION SHEET (ACCORD-

ING TO DIN 8606) AND OPERATING ACCURACY
The geometrical accuracy check of the machine is designed to assure con-

tinued optimum performance. The number of measurements, which are checked,
should be in accordance with the level of inspection or repair.
Perform an idle run of the lathe, and check the following:

1. All spindle speeds and feeds.
2. Operation of controls.
3. Operation of clutches, brakes, stops, spring fasteners, and limit
switches.
4. Coolant and lubrication systems.
5. Proper operation of bearings and gear transmissions.
The idle run should be 1 hour long on 1000 rpm. speed and 30 minutes
long at the max. speed.
Value from Measured

Nr. Check Measurement DIN 8606 value
[mm] [mm]
Bedways parallel, and not Use leveling bridge as
0,03 …………
warped. above. Move the
1000<L<1500
bridge along the full
01a length of the bedways, 0,005
checking level perpen- on each 250 …………
dicular to guides. mm
Bedways level. Use a special jig for a
leveling bridge. Check
01b level parallel to guides 0,04 …………
along the full length of
the bedway.
Spindle flange axial runout. Turn the spindle with a
dial gauge set against
the face of the flange. 0,02
G3b Take measurements at …………
(inclusive)
two opposite points.

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Spindle nose centering sur- Turn the spindle with a

face runout. dial set against the cen-
tering surface.
G4 0,01 …………
Radial runout of spindle taper Insert an inspection

bore. mandrel in the taper. (a) 0,01 …………
Measure deviation with
G5 a b a dial gauge, at nose (a)
and 300mm from nose (b) 0,02
(b). (300mm from …………
nose)
Spindle axis parallel to car- Insert an inspection
riage movement. mandrel in the taper. (a) 0,015
b
Fix a dial gauge to the (on length 300
carriage; move the car- mm) …………
a riage along the bedway,
G6 measuring the height to
the mandrel.
Rotate the mandrel at (b) 0,02
90 degree intervals, re- (on length 300
…………
peating measurement. mm)
Tailstock spindle movement Measure the tailstock (a) 0,015

parallel to carriage feed. spindle in the extended (within the dis-
and retracted positions tance of 100 …………
b
with a dial gauge fixed mm)
a to the carriage, by mov-
G7 ing the carriage by 100 (b) 0,02
mm (within the dis-
tance of 100 …………
mm)
Tailstock spindle taper hole Insert an inspection

parallel to carriage feed. mandrel in the retracted (a) 0,03
and clamped tailstock (on length 100 …………
b spindle. Measure devi- mm)
ation from a dial gauge
G8 a fixed to the carriage as (b) 0,03
it moves along the bed. (c)
Rotate the mandrel 180 (on length 100 …………
degrees and average the mm)
readings.

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Spindle centers level with Insert an inspection

bedway. mandrel 2x carriage
length between centers.
Move the carriage and
G9 note the readings on the 0,04 …………
dial gauge.
Leadscrew axial runout. Insert a steel ball in the

tapered hole at the right
0,01
end of the leadscrew.
(in each direc-
G12 Measure movement of …………
tion)
the ball while rotating
the leadscrew in both
directions.
Quality of shaft turned in Measured with a mi-
chuck – roundness crometer at both diame-
ters 0,01
P1a d d>da/8 …………
(l = 300mm)
l
Quality of shaft turned in Measured with a mi-
chuck – cylindricity crometer the difference
of both diameters 0,04
P1b d d>da/8 …………
(l = 300mm)
l
Flatness of disk turned in Measured with straight-

chuck or spindle. edge and feeler gauge.
d>0,5da
0,025
P2 lmax=da/8 …………
(d=300mm)
Made by: ……………………………………………………………

( Date, Signature)

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8.2. SOUND LEVEL MEASUREMENT REPORT
Level of noise
Measured value
(accord. to DIN 45635 p16)
[ dB ]
[ dB ]
80 …………………
Made by: ……………………………………………………………

( Date, Signature)

TUR 800 MN / 930 MN 8-5
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9 9. Electric and electronic equipment part list 9
9. Electric and electronic equipment part list

TUR 800 MN / 930 MN 9-1
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11 11. Documentation 11
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11. Documentation – standard & optional equip-
ment
11.1. DOCUMENTATION SPINDLE AND AXIS MOTORS .................................. 

11.2. DOCUMENTATION OF BEDWAY LUBRIFICATION SYSTEM ................. 
11.3. DOCUMENTATION 8-POSITION TOOLTURRET ........................................ 
11.4. DOCUMENTATION OF HYDRAULIC AGREGATE ..................................... 
11.5. DOCUMENTATION POWER ACTUATED CHUCK ..................................... 
11.6. DOCUMENTATION CHIP CONVEYOR ........................................................ 
X - it means - equipment exist

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11.1. DOCUMENTATION SPINDLE AND AXIS MOTORS

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11.2. DOCUMENTATION OF BEDWAY LUBRIFICATION SYSTEM

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11.3. DOCUMENTATION 8-POSITION TOOLTURRET

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11.4. DOCUMENTATION OF HYDRAULIC AGGREGATE

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11.5. DOCUMENTATION POWER ACTUATED CHUCK

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11.6. DOCUMENTATION CHIP CONVEYOR

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1. INDUSTRIAL SAFETY INSTRUCTION

2.1. TECHNICAL DESCRIPTION OF THE TUR 800/930 MN ................................. 2-2

3. PREPARING FOR STARTING UP

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8. TECHNICAL ACCEPTANCE AND GEOMETRICAL ACCURACY

9. ELECTRIC AND ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT PART LIST

10. DRAWINGS AND SPARE PARTS

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Due to the constant introduction of technical improvements, this

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1. Industrial safety instruction

Erect the lathe in the appropriate enclosure on a foundation made as per

The technological process personal should be trained in the scope of pre-

It is forbidden to utilise the machine tool or a given unit after confirming

It is forbidden to operate the lathe after confirming damage to safety ele-

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 Front chip guards interlock;

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Work safety recommendations (to be placed on the machine tool)

 Only a worker, who has undergone an appropriate training and has a

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Position 3 is used in the following 2 situations:

- Procedure to unblock after emergency stop or blocking of the

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2.1. TECHNICAL DESCRIPTION OF THE TUR 800/930 MN................................... 2-2

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TECHNICAL DESCRIPTION OF THE TUR 800/930 MN

TUR MN is a manual/CNC combination high-precision lathe.

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2.1.5. Follow rest

Capacity for roller jaws mm (inch) 25 (0,98”) 250 (9,8”)

Dimensions TUR 800 MN TUR 930 MN

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Figure 2-1. Follow rest – TUR 800/930 MN.

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2.1.6. Steady rest

The following verifications should be thoroughly reviewed and understood prior

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2.1.6.1 Steady rest 30mm(1,2") – 340mm(13,4") - (roller)

Figure 2-2. Steady rest 30mm (1,2”) – 340 (13,4”).

Capacity mm (inch) 30 (1,2”)–340 (13,4”)

Dimensions TUR 800 MN TUR 930 MN

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2.1.6.2 Steady rest 310mm(12,2") – 480mm(18,9") - (roller)

Figure 2-3. Steady rest 310mm (12,2”) – 480 (18,9”).

Capacity mm (inch) 310(12,2”) – 480(18,9”)

Dimensions TUR 800 MN TUR 930 MN

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2.1.6.3 Steady rest 480mm (18,9”) – 760mm (29,9”) (roller).

Figure 2-4. Steady rest 480mm (18,9”) – 760 (29,9”).

Capacity mm (inch) 480(18,9”) – 760(29,9”)

Dimensions TUR 930 MN

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