SAPL - KAFD-A0-GEN-SAP-DES-OCS-00020 - SAPL - WSP - Response
SAPL - KAFD-A0-GEN-SAP-DES-OCS-00020 - SAPL - WSP - Response
SAPL - KAFD-A0-GEN-SAP-DES-OCS-00020 - SAPL - WSP - Response
DOCUMENT TITLE TO 022 Groundwater Recycling and RO Plant Concept Design Drawings, Report and Specifications DOCUMENT TYPE DWG / RPT / SPE
SCADA 1.The dedicated space for PLC room is very small and will not be enough to accommodate the cabinet and the workstation. 1. PLC panel will be placed in the MCC room. The proposed control room space will be for SCADA servers and
2.RTU single line diagram, power and instrumentation cable schedules and I/O lists were not provided in the design package. workstation only. the minimum clearance between PLC panels and MCC/VFD has been considered.
3.P&ID diagram and operation philosophy was not included in the layout. 2. Noted, The drawing No.KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-UTI-DWG-00079 was updated.
4.Provide separate layout for the motorized penstock with narrative the basic operation control philosophy.SAPL Response: 3. P&ID diagram has been provided. The detailed operation philosophy shall be provided by D&B contractor as
5.P&ID layout shall include the following: mentioned in the performance specification clause 3.6. Kindly refer to the P&ID diagram drawings number
•The connection between the filed devices and RTUs KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-MEC-DWG-00047 & KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-MEC-
•The connection between the RTU and the PLC/local SCADA system. DWG-00048 & KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-MEC-DWG-00049
6.The proposed locations for the ultrasonic level transmitter will not be effective in terms of detecting the water level. 4. P&ID diagram has been provided. The detailed operation philosophy shall be provided by D&B contractor as
7.ICT system schematic diagram is missing a lot of basic information, like for example: I/O racks, PLC, switches, redundancy switches, CPU, workstation, HMI and , mentioned in the performance specification clause 3.6. Kindly refer to the P&ID diagram drawings number
ethernet switches., Etc. KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-MEC-DWG-00047 & KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-MEC-
8.The layout for fiber optic cable routing and connection from RTU to SCADA system was not provided. DWG-00048 & KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-MEC-DWG-00049
9.Provide in tabulated form along with P&ID layout the following: 5. the required detailed P&ID layout shall be provided by D&B contractor.
• the pipe pressure rating, 6. The RADAR level transmitter location shall be provided as guide to the contractor. The RADAR level
•the flow rate, transmitter have been moved by 1.50m away from the tank wall and to be in compliance with OEM
4 AS 1
•max flow & manufacturer recommendation, kindly refer to drawings number KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-
•operating pressure. MEC-DWG-00054 & KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-MEC-DWG-00055
10.The operation control philosophy for the entire plant shall be submitted.
7.The SCADA architecture drawing has been provided which were included all required details see drawing No.
11.Surge vessel size shall be determined by specialized vendor based on the pumps selection profile
(KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-UTI-DWG-00079 )
12.Provide the chlorination system P&ID diagram layout and indicate the location of the tank in the plant general layout.
13.Elaborate the operation philosophy of the dosing system and explain the dosing operation control system, is it manually or automatically?
8.D&B contractor is in charge of the layout for fiber optic cable routing and connection from parcels RTU to
14.PLC cabinet, UPS panel and the workstation shall be in a dedicated control room.
SCADA system.
9. the required information is part of D&B contractor.
10. The entire operation and control philosophy is part of D&B contractor.
11. Noted, Surge vessel size shall be determined by specialized vendor based on the pumps selection profile
under D&B contractor SOW.
12. P&ID was included in the submission. Kindly refer to the P&ID diagram drawings number KAFD-A0-GEN-
COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-MEC-DWG-00047 & KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-MEC-DWG-00048 &
DOCUMENT TITLE TO 022 Groundwater Recycling and RO Plant Concept Design Drawings, Report and Specifications DOCUMENT TYPE DWG / RPT / SPE
General - At the concept stage. indicative equipment size are provided based on the worst case to confirm the
availability of spaces. However, the detail stage designer or contractor in the design and build stage shall
provide the actual sizes and builder/manufacturer drawings to achieve the required clearances.
1- the approach of design the MCC panel is not practical solution and not applicable, WSP segerate the main MCC to more than one MCC for easy installation and
arrangement inside electrical room and the operation philosophy. 1- The design is optimized for the available space. However, segregation will be taken into consideration for the
2- the total connected load, demand factor, demand load are missed from the drawing. next submission.
3- incorporate the disconnect switch and push button in the drawing for each motor. 2. TCL is shown on the layout; please refer to SLD.
4- incorporate the circuit breaker amper frame and ampere trip 3. The comment is related to the detailed design stage.
KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX- 5- the medium voltage cable size between the RMU and transformer shall be as per the relevant SEC standard (50-70mm2). 4. Comment needs to be clarified; AT&AF is shown on the layout.
WSP-UTI-DWG-00070 , KAFD-A0- 6- Incorporate the LV cable size. 5. SEC regulations are not applicable after MRMU. Selected cable based on calculations and factor.
6 AS 1
GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-UTI- 7- The legend shall be incorporated in each drawing seperately for easy reviewing and verification. 6. Noted; we will consider this for the next submission.
DWG-00072 7.Already there.
General - At the concept stage. indicative equipment size are provided based on the worst case to confirm the
availability of spaces. However, the detail stage designer or contractor in the design and build stage shall
provide the actual sizes and builder/manufacturer drawings to achieve the required clearances.
1- incorporate the size of the down conductor, the horizontal conductor shall be away one meter from the building,
1- Please refer to specification section 264100 part 2.3 D, Any additional information will be part of detailed
KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX- 2- the distance between the vertical down conductor shall be as the results of the risk assessment report
7 AS 1 design.
WSP-UTI-DWG-00116
2- It will be considered in the detailed design stage.
1- Doublication of earthing pit is not recommended, only doublicate the number of he earthing conductor from the busbar to the grround rod/pit.
2- the drawing containmnet shall be dedicated only for earthing ssytem.
1- Two earthing pits has been considered for each earth bar for MV/LV/ELV systems and generator set.
3- the horizontal conductor around the building is missed from the drawing.
2- The containment is part of the power and earthing systems, no containment has been considered for each
4- provide the arthing and lightning protection riser diagram.
system separately.
5- the horizontal conductor around the building shall be common for both earthing and lightning protection systems with incorporating the distance between the earthing pit.
3- It's covered in the specification section 260526 part 3.5 D
KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX- 6- Incorporate the size of the main earthing conductor and the equipment bonding conductor.
8 AS 1 4- Earthing and lightning protection riser diagram is part of detailed design stage.
WSP-UTI-DWG-00115 7- earth pits shall be spaced at minimum 6m interval.
5- Agreed.
6- Please refer to specification section 260526 part 2.9/2.10 F
7- Agreed, Earting system shall be based on BS7430 which has been mentioned in the specification. Any
additional information will be part of detailed design.
KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX- The lighting fixture's type shall be as per the dialux calculation considering the building height and the recommended LUX level as per the relevant standards.
9 AS 1 Dialux calculation and LUX level is part of detailed design stage.
WSP-UTI-DWG-00111
SECTION 260501 – TESTING OF Please add the testing for the earthing.
10 AS 1 Noted & addressed in Revision 1 submission.
LV ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS
SECTION 260519 - LV ELEC Please add the following statement:
CONDUCTORS & CABLES
11 AS 1 The Contractor shall ensure that no more than one phase will occur at switch lighting or power outlets where these outlets are less than 2.5m apart unless guarded by a wall Noted & addressed in Revision 1 submission.
partition or other barrier. If this is impracticable the Contractor shall obtain the advice of
the KAFD REPRESENTATIVE before proceeding.
SECTION 260519 - LV ELEC Please add the following statement:
12 AS CONDUCTORS & CABLES 1 Noted & addressed in Revision 1 submission.
The Conduits fill shall not be more than 60% full.
Please add the following references:
Section 260526 - Grounding and A. IEEE 81-2012 - IEEE Guide for Measuring Earth Resistivity, Ground Impedance, and
13 AS 1 Noted & addressed in Revision 1 submission.
Bonding for Electrical Systems Earth Surface Potentials of a Grounding System
B. NFPA/NEC 70 (National Electrical Code)
C. NFPA 99 - Health Care Facilities.
DOCUMENT TITLE TO 022 Groundwater Recycling and RO Plant Concept Design Drawings, Report and Specifications DOCUMENT TYPE DWG / RPT / SPE
Locations of labels:
1. Each electrical distribution and control equipment compartment - Title Label.
2. Each door mounted component - Function Label.
Section 260553 - Identification for 3. Every internal component - Identification Label.
15 AS 1 4. Each Fuse - Identification Label (Fuse type, rating). Noted & addressed in Revision 1 submission.
Electrical Systems
5. Communication cabinets - Title Label.
6. Compartments with doors and covers not electrically interlocked to an isolator,
external label - “DANGER, LIVE TERMINALS” with flash and voltage in red letters
on white background in Arabic and English.
7. Each group of terminal blocks - Function description Label.
Please add the following:
APPLICATION
Section 260553 - Identification for A. Install nameplate and label parallel to equipment lines.
16 AS 1 Noted & addressed in Revision 1 submission.
Electrical Systems B. Secure nameplate to equipment front as specified.
C. Secure nameplate to inside surface of door on panel board that is recessed in finished locations.
D. Identify underground conduits using underground warning tape. Install one tape per trench at 150mm below finished grade.
Please add the following:
Submit dimensional drawings of all the switchgears, switchboards and motor control centers, including sections and elevations, showing the following:
a. Arrangement of all components, instruments, indication and dimensions of all busbars.
b. Positions and method of fixing cables and boxes.
c. Location of Terminal blocks.
d. Single line diagram of the circuits showing the rating of all components, the type and size of the incoming and outgoing feeders.
Section 262400 - Switchboards, e. Schematic and elementary wiring diagrams, for each control unit, showing numbered terminal points, numbered wires and numbered interconnections to other
17 AS 1 Noted & addressed in Revision 1 submission.
Panel Boards and Switchgear equipment’s and remote devices.
f. Connection wiring diagrams, for each control unit, showing numbered terminal points, numbered wires and numbered interconnections to other equipment’s and remote
devices.
g. Complete catalog information for all components.
h. A complete list of parts, with prices, that would be necessary to maintain and/or
modify the equipment.
i. Other relevant data.
a-A composite drawing or drawings (on full size, reproducible, log-log paper) showing the entire new electrical system (including the first upstream protective device of the
existing system) showing all protective device curves (including motor overloads), short circuit duties, motor starting curves and damage curves for motors, equipment and
Section 262400 - Switchboards, conductors. This drawing or drawings shall show that all protective devices are properly coordinated to perform as stated above.
18 AS 1 Noted & addressed in Revision 1 submission.
Panel Boards and Switchgear b-Manufacturer’s overcurrent operating curves (on full size, reproducible, log-log paper) for each overcurrent device. In the case of fuses, both minimum melt and maximum
clearing time curves shall be included.
c-Reproducible copies of all projects single line diagrams so marked to show short circuit duties at all switchboards and motor control centers, and which operating curve
applies to each overcurrent device on the diagram (the operating curves shall also be correspondingly marked);
d-A tabulation of the short circuit duties at all switchboards and motor control centers, sizes and ratings of all overcurrent protective devices and the required settings of all
of the adjustable overcurrent protective devices so that the performance requirements are met. Protective devices which have earth fault protection features are specifically
required to meet this performance requirement.
e-This documented coordination study shall be submitted for review before the overcurrent devices are supplied for the project
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KAFD-A0-GEN-WSP-DES-RPT-
00015
19 MS 1 Noted and corrected as per ASHREA general guidelines 50% +/- 5%. Refer to the updated report section 2.3.
2.3 Local Conditions.
Page No 9 & 10
The Below highlighted does not reflect the Existing Riyadh Weather Conditions:
KAFD-A0-GEN-WSP-DES-RPT-
00015 Section has been omitted in concept report and updatd in the performance specifications. Please refer to the
20 MS 1
3.2.2.1 Air Conditioning works Performance spefication Section 3.9.2 Ventilation/HVAC sections for the information on air conditioning works.
Page No 49
KAFD-A0-GEN-WSP-DES-RPT-
21 MS 00015 1 The site visit pictures are old shall be replaced with the new ones. Updated site visit reports are included in Revision 1 of the Concept Design Report.
Appendix D - Site Visit Photographs
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KAFD-A0-GEN-WSP-DES-SPE-
00001
/ Division 21 Fire Suppression /
These are general specification provided to the Contractor for guidance, the Contractor will need to refer to the
Section 210500
22 MS 1 specification of the relevant system as required, based on the confirmed FLS strategy during the detailed design
Part 2 products
stage.
C.System Description
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The below highlighted sections are not relevant with regards to the proposed RO Plant Design Drawings :
KAFD-A0-GEN-WSP-DES-SPE- These are general specification provided to the Contractor for guidance, the Contractor will need to refer to the
23 MS 00001 1 specification of the relevant system as required, based on the confirmed FLS strategy during the detailed design
/ Division 21 Fire Suppression / stage.
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KAFD-A0-GEN-WSP-DES-SPE-
00001
/ Division 22 Plumbing /
24 MS
1 Sections are required for piping from pump to toilet fixtures & bib taps proposed within RO plant
DOCUMENT TITLE TO 022 Groundwater Recycling and RO Plant Concept Design Drawings, Report and Specifications DOCUMENT TYPE DWG / RPT / SPE
12.2: Noted
12.3 Section 220553 is relevant: as it address the Identification tag/markings for HVAC Piping/equipments e.g.
for referigernat Piping and ducts. the tag plate for the HVAC equipments ( indoor, outdoor) containing
information which shall be aligned with the Asset register during Handover documentation of the project
12.11 Section 238129 is relevant : HVAC system scheme is Direct expansion (refrigernat based). and the
specification is relevant if the proposal for VRF is considered at DD/tender stage.
KAFD-A0-GEN-WSP-DES-SPE-
25 MS 00001
2. PACU: Specification included in Rev 01 pacakge.
/ Division 23 HVAC /
2.1 Duct identification tag: already covered in the submitted speficcations DIV 23, Section 230553
IDENTIFICATION FOR HVAC section 2.2
Note: WSP specifications are comprehensive and covers all details. Contractor to read the full specification and
submit the compliance of relevant sections and applicable to materials for Supervision consultant for final
review and approval.
The concept structural design of the raw and treated water underground tanks is not viable due to the following concerns:
The Design calculation for the RO plant in included in the revised submission for the element sizing and satbility
27 MD Structural package 1 -The basic calculations of the concrete sizing and reinforcements are not included in the design package.
checks. Midas model is provided for information only in the revised submission.
-Concept FEM modelling was not submitted along with the design package.
Add Note that allow to DB contractor to propose new structrual system instead of prestressed Box grider and huge conrete columns as it may be steel structure .
28 MD Structural package 1 Please refer to Note #19 of drawing no. KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-STL-DWG-00075.
30 PD General 1 There is no drawing list included in the drawing package submission. Refer to Dwg No KAFD-A0-GEN-WSP-DES-LST-00001 for list of drawings
The drawing package should include Architectural drawings that includes plans, elevation, sections and schedules that suit the required information.
31 PD Architectural 1 This work is not within WSP's scope and shall be developed in the next stage by D&B contractor.
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33 PD General 1 The drawings do not include information on building heights. WSP checked the drawings and confirmed building heights are provided.
The designs must include at least the basic minimum of information about the gate and the boundary wall/fence. Sections and specification to be provided.
34 PD Boundary 1 This work shall be completed in the next stage by the D&B Contractor.
In order to discern the design intent, the finishes in each room should be defined in principle. Finishes schedule shall be provided.
35 PD Finishes 1 This work shall be completed in the next stage by the D&B Contractor.
To identify the design objective, the finishes in each room should be defined in concept.
36 PD Electrical room / General 1 Consider the requirement for a landing and handrail on the ramp for all structures. Notes are added to KAFD-A0-GEN-WSP-DES-LST-00050.
37 PD Landscape Landscape and hardscape must be specified in concept design. No available areas for hardscape and landscape. Just pavement is needed.
As per the 2.6.4: the volume of the raw water tank was detemrined as 8250 (2 chambers). The supporting calcultions were not provides.
41 MI Report 1 Refer to Report for detailed calculation of the RAW water tank volume.
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42 MI Report 1 The layout drawing has been updated in the revised report
Ro plant capacity is 30,000 m3/day while the raw water volume (0.55 of the daily flow) is 8250 m3/day
43 MI Report 1 It is a typo error, same has been updated in the revised report
One pump can deliver the required flow especially the pumping system operates based on level control and not
incoming flow rates in the wet well and hence having one duty pump will reduce the wet well floor area since the
44 MI Report 1
allocated plot area is tight. In addition we have added a provisional future pump to cater for the future flow
rates.
WSP attached the site visits conducted as in 2022. The site vosit reports took place as part of this exercise should be attached to the report
45 MI Report 1 Updated site visit reports are included in Revision 1 of the Concept Design Report.
All NWC sould be replace with SIO, NWC is not in charge of the TSE system in Riyadh any more
47 MI Report 1 Noted & addressed in Revision 1 submission.
The elevation of the incoming gravity line invert level is on negative which is not matching the site conditions
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The RO capacity should be 55% of the 30000 which is 16500, this contradicts 2-11 & 2-12 & 213 RO units capacity
52 MI Report 1 This is a typo error, same has been addressed and updated in revised report
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It was stated that based on the waterquality, the treated portion will be 55%. WSP need to elaborate more on how this conclusion was reached and to add different
scenarios (groundwater, and TSE from SIO) The percentage of blending and by pass has been approximately calculated based on the water quality results
54 MI Report point 2.6.4 1 from various parcels, however in case of watr from extrenal sources other than parcels have to be tested, and
accordingly percentage of blending can be adjusted by contractor
WSP didn’t check the effect of water hummer for all transmission lines from parcels to the RO plant and from the intermediate pump station to the RO plant The Trnsimission Line water hammer study will be part of the Deatailed design stage done by the contractor as
55 MI Rport and Drawings 1
per the specifications submitted within the project
Please note future pumps is not part of the contractor scope of work as we don't want the contractor to procure
The pumping station in the leaf area shall all be underground with minimum impact on the public realm's final look. Final location to be coordinated with public realm the pumps then install them after long period of time. Kindly refer to the design report where it is stated the
enhancement current and future pumping arrangement. Also the pump list is provided in drawing number (KAFD-A0-GEN-
COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-UTI-DWG-00139)
56 H.E Rport and Drawings WSP to add a provision of design and build for aluminum cladding of the building to match the surrounding theme 3- The scope of this contract does not include procurment of any future pump since the future flows is unknown
when to occur as it is not recomended to store the future pump for long time.
WSP to provide some information regarding the future to help with the pre-tender estimate 4- Pumps scheduale were provided, refer to drawings KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-MEC-DWG-
00042 & KAFD-A0-GEN-COMN-NSF-XXXXX-WSP-MEC-DWG-00065
WSP to make sure that a complete list of equipment is provided.
Mohamed Ibrahim (MI) Lead Wet Utilities Position: Senior Project Manager Position: Position: Position: