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John the Savage and Mustapha Mond’s conversation towards the end of the book gave the
reader a view of what a civilized and an uncivilized population may or may not have in
common. Although Mustapha Mond had shown he had understood John’s idea towards
things and how he viewed them, he disagreed. One of these things was the role of suffering
in life. How does John’s view of suffering differ from Mustapha’s view?

In Chapter 17 of the book, John the Savage says, “I don’t want comfort. I want God, I want
poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness. I want sin.” (pg. 163) However,
towards the earlier parts of the book, in Chapter 16, we see Mustapha say, “Universal happiness
keeps the wheels steadily turning; truth and beauty can’t,” (pg. 155). John embraces that
suffering in life is a part of the human experience, put on earth by God. But Mustapha knows he
has control in a civilized society, and any god he would know would be himself— he made the
rules, he ended the suffering. In John’s society, everyone was equal, and there was no higher
being besides the divine while the “divine” in Mustapha’s society would be Mustapha or,
previously, the Director himself.

Bernard and Lenina’s relationship had initially symbolized the difference between
conformity and non-conformity. Towards the end of the book, we see this difference
represented in John and Mustapha. What are some ways that Huxley transfers the societal
problems from Bernard and Lenina’s relationship to John and Mustapha’s?

Bernard and Lenina’s relationship provided a sharp contrast in terms of conformity. While
Bernard was both physically and mentally different from those around him and those in his same
class, Lenina preferred to blend in with societal norms and use soma while viewing Bernard
rather odd for refusing to. We see this in Chapter 7, where Lenina felt rather disgusted with the
Indians and John (as any regular civilian of the World State would feel), Bernard felt rather
intrigued (pg. 74). In Chapter 8, it starts with Bernard’s interest in Linda’s stories, in which he
seeks stories that oppose the ideal view of the World State (pg. 86). Similar to Bernard’s initial
thought process, John mentions he “wants sin” in Chapter 17 (pg. 163). But in the same chapter,
Mustapha Mond makes it clear that the idea of social stability requires that there be no problems
and any and all problems should be suppressed, even if it means the truth.

In Chapter 17, Mustapha Mond makes it evident that rebellion and the pursuit of truth are
closely related by saying that happiness and truth are not compatible. What are some
experiences in the book that made this evident?
John the Savage was a character from an uncivilized society that was introduced to a civilized
one. In Chapter 15, John sees the blindness that the Deltas suffer from, unable to see the truth of
society and how they were forced to blend in. In a raging fit, John loses it and throws the soma
rations out of a window, where we see his first act of rebellion (pg. 146). Since John was the only
one who was raised outside of the World State, he was the only one who saw the difference in
the two societies and the censorship that was formed. Later in the book, we find out that John
ended his life and a huge part of it was due to his overwhelming gain of knowledge in the World
State and his unwanted growth of fame.

Martin Franzén’s literary criticism states that, “… The novel does contain many instances
where modernity is celebrated rather than criticized.” According to Martin Franzén,
calling the society in Brave New World an utopia is just as arguable as calling it a dystopia.
What are some cases where calling the New World an utopia is considerable?

The point of the World State was to solve all problems. An example of this is soma. Soma is a
drug used to solve all problems of discontent. In Chapter 17, Mustapha states, “Christianity
without tears— that’s what soma is,” (pg. 238) . What Mustapha means by that is that in the end,
soma is what represents their religion and culture— they call to soma for any and all problems,
and the second it’s taken, there is an end to all suffering. This is the opposite of dystopian since it
keeps people’s emotions at bay, and keeps people structurally in control. This could even proceed
to prove our current society as dystopian as we don’t have such easy access to drugs that could
keep our moods afloat unless we are medically diagnosed, which requires a lengthy assessed
procedure.

Oftentimes, the reader tends to view a dystopian book as largely negative. However, Huxley
sends more of a neutral message than he does a negative one regarding the path humanity.
Relating back to Martin Franzén’s literary criticism, Huxley appears to celebrate some
portions of “our progression of modernity towards the future.” When does Huxley appear
to applaud the possible progression of society?

Huxley applauds the progression of society in eliminating the suffering of the world. From the
way that things appear to go, it appears as if disease was wiped from the population (unless
specifically applied to the class). There happens to be no one among those who were made to be
perfect that suffers from any sickness or aging with time. Chapter 17 of Brave New World reads,
“Not more than a quarter of a gram a week. and a quarter of that half-gramme is a quarter of pure
soma. It makes you feel very virtuous, I promise you… All the tonic effects of murdering
despair, without any of the inconveniences,” (pg. 238). They have been able to form a drug that
ends any and all pain an individual has, and it has had a tremendous effect on the progression of
the society Huxley envisioned and created within the book.

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