A Searchable Q&a On Toxicity
A Searchable Q&a On Toxicity
A Searchable Q&a On Toxicity
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by DR. THOMAS O’BRYAN, DC, CCN, DACBN
theDr.com
Dr. Tom O'Bryan: A SEARCHABLE Q&A on Toxicity
Welcome! There's no doubt that there’s too much toxicity that we're exposed to in today’s
world. Too many things that our bodies are trying to protect us from - and it takes more than
one thing usually. Despite popular belief, approaches like doing gluten-free diets are not the
treatment. There's a prerequisite to the treatment. It's the prerequisite, so that we stop tearing
up the gut causing the intestinal permeability. (To learn more about GLUTEN and the trilogy of
Autoimmune Disorders: genetics, environmental triggers and intestinal permeability - aka
Leaky Gut - click here for The Gluten Summit - another gift to support you.)
This Q&A covers SOME of my most powerful Q&As I have answered during a YEAR of
Facebook Live interviews on toxicity and autoimmune disease with my Director of Clinical
Services, Michelle Ross. It is organized and SEARCHABLE by topic, but I encourage you to
read it top to bottom, and if you would like the entire Q&A series of over 100 pages of annotated,
searchable transcripts, click here.
To your best health! Dr. Tom O’Bryan
CONTENTS BY TOPIC
Chemical Screens/Test
If your LPS levels go up, you're going to have a problem. Sepsis kills over 200,000 people in the US every
year, and usually it's a disease of old people- but not always. Sepsis is just high levels of LPS in the
bloodstream that have deposited in your spleen, in your thyroid, in your brain, in your liver, and in your
kidneys. You have this toxic bacterial exhaust that got in through intestinal permeability or because of high
fat diets. High fats can carry LPS into the bloodstream. That's why you have to be careful when you're on a
ketogenic diet.
You have to check your LPS levels now. Right now. Then you check them every month while you're on the
diet to make sure your LPS levels are not going up.
That would be the Wheat Zoomer Test, and it's the intestinal permeability panel. It will test for systemic
LPS- antibodies to LPS in the bloodstream. So that's a good way to monitor that, but yes, the ketogenic
diet can be great for lowering blood sugar. But it's not just a one size fits all. So that's important to know.
Dr. Tom O'Bryan: It may be an absorption problem that can be identified pretty quickly by doing a
test like SpectraCell. You see what the nutrient levels are in the bloodstream of all your nutrients. If he's
eating well, but you see bad tests ... Do we offer SpectraCell?
Michelle Ross: We offer a test that looks at micronutrients, to test white blood cell, red blood cell and
serum. It's a micronutrient panel on our website.
Dr. Tom O'Bryan: Oh, that's great. I'm supposed to know that, I don't even know that.
Dr. Tom O'Bryan: That's why Michelle's the Director of Clinical Services.
So a simple test can tell you if it's a malabsorption problem. It most often is not a malabsorption problem.
It most often is a metabolic problem that they're burning way, way too many calories, and they just can't
gain weight. And there are a number of reasons why that might be. Toxic chemicals is one of the causes
for that. Emotional things that happened early in life can be a cause for that and people just can't be
nourished. There are so many potential trailers to that one, but the first step would be by ... what's it called
panel?
Dr. Tom O'Bryan: It's a micronutrient panel. Yeah, it's on our website theDr.com, the micronutrient
panel. That's the place to start to see is there a malabsorption problem? Are there many nutrients that my
son is deficient in? And then you know.
Within two weeks, if your body can't get rid of these metals, break them down and get rid of them within
two weeks, the brain says, get this away from me, and it goes into storage. It goes into your bones, into
your kidney, your liver, the brain, it can go anywhere.
A blood test is only accurate to tell you what you've been exposed to in the last two weeks. You can do a
hair analysis. The hair analysis whatever minerals and metals are in the blood are going to be in the new
hair. So if it's a good lab it's accurate and you can only take 1-inch of hair from the nape of the neck. So if
you've got 8-inches of hair, you have to cut it, and you have to clip off and throw away 7-inches because
only 1-inch is still not affected by multiple shampooing and all of that. So that's about two months growth,
about an inch of hair is about two months growth.
A hair analysis is accurate for about the last two months of exposures you've had. If that's what you mean
by a hair follicle analysis. It's a good test if it's a good lab, but it's only going to tell you what you've been
exposed to the last two months.
The third way is we give a key rating solution. It's like a magnet. So I pull this stuff out of storage, and you
collect your urine. And when you do that it's about 1/10th of what might be in your body, but now you're
starting to see what's been buried and hidden in your body. That one, when that comes back positive, we'll
sometimes recommend a hair analysis to see, so is this a recent exposure the last couple of months? Let's
do a hair analysis to see if this come out over many, many years.
For example, my case, when I was 44 I had a cataract in my left eye. Very rare to have a cataract in one eye
only in a young, middle-aged, healthy guy. I was doing triathlons and was in really good shape- very rare.
So I started researching, “Where the heck does this come from?” Then I found a study that said lead
poisoning may cause cataracts. I thought, “No, I don't have any lead, well, maybe I'll check.”
I had the highest level of lead of anyone I've ever tested, and I've done hundreds of tests. I had the highest
level ever because I lived in Detroit right across the river from the Rouge plant an auto manufacturing
facility back in the early '50s, so for the first eight years of my life. The result was all the pollution in the air,
riding my bicycle around the neighborhood and all that just sucking in the lead. It had been in my body for
40 years! 40 years, and that's what happens for us with all these toxic chemicals that we're exposed to.
We also have a fourth way of looking for heavy metals, you want to talk about that?
Michelle Ross: Yes, Quicksilver has a test now that we don't do, a provoking agent which is a lot easier,
that can be challenging, and for some people who are really sensitive it can set them off. It's testing hair,
blood and urine, so it's a really comprehensive look at toxic metal screening and also minerals. So if you're
deficient in minerals, it allows the toxic metals to store more efficiently in your body which is not a good
thing.
Dr. Tom O’Bryan: I was so happy. I got this question forwarded to me a little earlier today, and I'm so
happy because I can show you the study. I read these studies, and I just want to tell the world. This is one
that came out: Risk Assessment of Using Aluminum Foil in Food Preparations. I read it about a year ago,
and I just haven't had a chance to tell anybody yet. It's from The International Journal of Electrochemistry,
and they looked at aluminum foil. What happens when we cook with aluminum foil?
The first thing I want to show you from the paper is this first picture here is aluminum foil, and it's without
treatment, so it's before it's been put in the oven, any heat, that type of thing. The next picture is after it's
been two hours at a boiling temperature, so when something is really hot, and you've got it wrapped in
aluminum foil, here it is. Look at the difference. This is aluminum foil neutral. It hasn't been heated up yet.
This is the same magnification of the aluminum foil after it's been in boiling water for two hours. This stuff
breaks down.
Imagine what happens after 1.5 hours in the oven at 185 degrees. The one on this side, this picture is at one
magnification, and at the other side, they just increased the magnification. These are all little pieces of
aluminum in the food after the food has been wrapped in aluminum foil and put in the oven at 185 degrees
for one and a half hours, you know, like our baked potatoes that you do, and if you wrap chicken aluminum
foil, and you bake it or something. You get aluminum.
Now, what's the problem with little pieces of aluminum like that? The main problem is that some of these
toxic metals have affinity for different areas of the body. Aluminum has a huge affinity for the brain, and
there are a number of studies ... If you just go to Google and type in aluminum and Alzheimer's, here come
the studies of the association of an accumulation of aluminum in the brain and the development of
Alzheimer's. So, you don't want to expose yourself to foods that have been wrapped or covered in
aluminum foil and cooked. You just don't want to eat those foods, because you can't see the aluminum foil,
but it's there. This is what the stuff looks like that gets into your stomach, into your digestive tract, into
your bloodstream, and has an affinity for your brain.
This is one of the main reasons of the association between vaccines and brain dysfunction, autism,
attention deficit, is because vaccines use aluminum, most vaccines now use aluminum as, it's called the
adjuvant, the irritant that stimulates an immune response. It's aluminum because it's such a toxic chemical
that when it gets into your bloodstream in a vaccination, your immune system gets activated to fight that
vaccine, to fight what's been injected into you. That's how vaccinations work. But the carrier, the
aluminum, is now in your bloodstream and has an affinity to accumulate in your brain.
Michelle Ross: I also take E3, too, at bedtime for about a week after a gluten exposure.
Dr. Tom O’Bryan: Really good, yeah. E3 Advanced Plus, that's the digestive enzymes that break down
wheat. One capsule ... Now, I'm not supposed to tell you this, but you're all old enough now, that one
capsule will break down the gluten in a slice of whole wheat bread. That doesn't mean you eat bread, whole
wheat bread, and then take a capsule. So, taking a couple of those before going to sleep will always help
with any residue that might be in your system.
By the way, E3 Advanced Plus, the digestive enzymes that we're talking about, helps you break down
wheat, also break down over 60% of the Bt toxin in GMO corn. I'm going to be doing a special interview
with Jeffrey Smith from the Institute for Responsible Technology on that in the next couple weeks. You'll
hear all about it. If you've liked us on Facebook, you'll hear about it because we will send the
announcements out to everyone. Please make sure to like us for that.
Dr. Tom O’Bryan: The problem is that all of the gluten-digesting enzymes on the market, and there are a
number of them, they all take three hours, four hours, six hours to work, but how long does it take for food
to come out of the stomach? Two hours, about two hours, maybe 90 minutes, if it's quick, but 90 minutes
to two hours. Oh, wait. The digestive enzymes take three to six hours to work. What does that mean? It
means that the food that's coming out of the stomach, if there's gluten in it, it's not digested by those
enzymes, because those enzymes take three, four hours or more to work. So, they'll help you further down
the intestines. Remember, your intestines are over 20 feet long, so further down the intestines, they'll help,
as food's moving along with those enzymes in it, but in the proximal part of the small intestine, they don't
work.
I knew about this problem for years, and that's why we finally were able to put together the product E3
Advanced Plus. E3 Advanced Plus, 99% full degradation of any inadvertent exposures to wheat within 60
minutes, before that food comes out of the stomach into the proximal part of the small intestine. That's
why Michelle's talking about taking E3 if she has an inadvertent exposure. I know Michelle does, and Marzi
and I do; we travel with E3. It's in Marzi's purse all the time. Thank god that I've got a wife with me because
I don't carry a purse, and I'm not going to carry a purse, you know? So, when I'm traveling alone, I've got E3
Advanced Plus in my roller bag when I'm traveling, but if I don't have my roller bag, I don't have the E3
Advanced Plus with me, so I just make sure, whatever I order, it's like a piece of plain fish with some oil on
it, or something like that, very simple.
Michelle Ross: Excellent. Okay, so this is from Nancy, and she says, "The directions on E3 say to
refrigerate, so how do I carry it in my purse?"
Dr. Tom O’Bryan: Yeah. The reason for that, Nancy, is that the probiotics in E3 Advanced Plus,
they're really good probiotics, but like any other probiotics, if they get heated up over, I think it's 140
degrees, but if they get heated up, then, they can be destroyed. But you don't have to refrigerate them. In
the summertime, it's often shipped, depending on where it's being shipped to, in refrigerated containers,
you know, little things with a little ice pack in it, because UPS may have it sit on a dock somewhere, and the
sun can hit the whole box that's got a hundred bottles in there or something, and if they heat up too high,
you'll kill off the probiotics. It's not dangerous for you. The rest of the ingredients are still there to protect
you. The enzymes are there. The prebiotics are there. They still work. But for most people, they're not
going to have their E3 Advanced Plus ever get anywhere near 120 to 140 degrees. I think it was 140. It
might have been 120. I don't remember. It's one of the two.
So, I never worry about that. I don't refrigerate them. The only time that I know that I may have a less
potent product is when I leave a bottle in the glove box of my car in the summertime. So, if I leave it in the
glove box, I know that, "Ugh, all right, so the probiotics aren't going to work." The enzymes still work, and
there's no danger. It's not a problem for you, and I'll use them anyway, but then, I know that, "All right, I'm
not getting the probiotics out of these capsules now because I forgot and left them in the glove box. And it
gets hot in the car in the summertime." But I'll still use the enzymes in there.
Michelle Ross: I don't take them for the probiotics. It's a nice bonus, but I take them for the
enzymes, so I have a bottle in my purse- a smaller bottle, like a travel size. Then, I keep the main bottle in
the refrigerator. But it's really those enzymes that we're worried about, and they're fine out of
refrigeration.
(To learn more about GLUTEN and the trilogy of Autoimmune Disorders: genetics,
environmental triggers and intestinal permeability - aka Leaky Gut - click here for The Gluten
Summit - another gift to support you.)
Dr. Tom O’Bryan: First, let me thank everyone that throws up those hearts and things. Just a minute
ago, there were like 50 or 70 of them that just went boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's like cheerleaders
at a football game, you know? It's great. Thank you so much. That's really nice.
Wendy Allen writes, "Products will say gluten-free but have rice that has gluten."
That's a really good point, Wendy, so let's dial that one down right now, all right? Gluten is not bad for you.
Bad gluten is bad for you. Because there's gluten in rice, gluten in corn, gluten in quinoa, gluten in most
grains, but it's the gluten proteins in wheat, rye, and barley, that family of gluten proteins are the ones that
are nasty for everyone- for everyone.
Now, some people are sensitive to rice, the proteins in rice, so the gluten proteins in rice. Some people are.
Some people are sensitive to corn. 50% of celiacs will also be sensitive to corn, and if they eat corn, they
still have the celiac antibodies being produced. But across the board, wheat, rye, and barley are the ones
for everyone that's a problem. So, rice for everyone, the proteins in rice for everyone are not a problem.
You may be sensitive to rice; you may be. Also, in rice, you have to worry about the arsenic because the rice
grows in water. It sits in water all the time, and unfortunately, the irrigation water that we use in this
country, and many places around the world, has lots of residue from insecticides and pesticides, and that's
high in arsenic, and the rice absorbs the arsenic. So, you want organic, whenever possible. That will help.
That doesn't guarantee it doesn't have high levels of arsenic in it, but it reduces the likelihood.
Dr. Tom O’Bryan: Oats, when oats grow out of the ground, there's no toxic gluten in them. When you
buy oats off the shelf, there's toxic gluten in them. It's contamination, that the trucks that harvest the oats
and bring them to the manufacturing facility, they hauled wheat last week, and they don't clean the trucks.
But certified gluten-free oats should be safe for you, in general. They should be safe for you, unless you
have a sensitivity to oats, like rice or any other food. But for all of us, we should only be eating certified
gluten-free oats if you're eating oats because we don't want exposures to wheat ever. Ever. Because
everyone, when exposed to wheat, will tear the lining of the gut. Everyone. So if the oats are
contaminated, you can tear the lining of the gut.
Michelle Ross: Amy ask, "I've heard that wheat in Europe is different. Can you comment on that?"
You're in Italy right now, Dr. Tom. Are you and Marzi eating gluten?
Dr. Tom O’Bryan: I'm not even tempted to, but I understand the rationale that people have used,
because if the symptoms that people have in the US when they eat wheat is that they get gut problems,
bloating, gas, gut pain, and they go to Europe, and they eat the wheat there, and they don't have gut
problems. They say, "Oh, I'm fine. I can eat wheat. It's no problem." They come back to the US, and they
eat wheat, and they get gut problems again. So, they start thinking the wheat in Europe is safe for them.
Not true. It was tough to explain that years ago, but now we know. There's more science. The vast majority
of people that have gut reactions to wheat is not because of the proteins in wheat. It's because of the
FODMAPs in wheat, the fermentable carbohydrates, and they also have the immune response, which
triggers all the systemic problems, but the gut symptoms are usually from the FODMAPs. The wheats that
are grown and used in Europe are much lower in FODMAP content. The strains of wheat they use are lower
in FODMAPs. So you can eat the wheats in Europe and not have gut problems because it's low in
FODMAPs, but you still get the immune response. If you've crossed the line, and you have elevated
antibodies to wheat, you get that immune response with the wheats in Europe just like you would with the
wheats in the United States.
Michelle Ross: Right, and there seems to be a lot of consciousness in Italy about gluten-free.
Dr. Tom O’Bryan: Oh, there is. It's very cool. We've not done it here because where we are now,
there's a really good health food store that has lots of gluten-free options, but when you're in Italy, if you
want gluten-free food, you can go to the pharmacy. You can go to the pharmacy, and you ask them if you
can order some gluten-free pasta. They'll have it for you the next day- fresh, gluten-free. Why? Because the
government here gives credit ... If you get a diagnosis of a gluten-related disorder from one of the certified
centers ... There are 37 centers in Italy that are certified by the government, that if they say you've got a
problem with wheat, then your food bills are tax deductible, and those people go to the pharmacies to
order their pastas and stuff. You can go to the pharmacy in Italy and order gluten-free croissants, gluten-
free pasta, gluten-free biscotti. We've done that before. We haven't done it on this trip because the store
that's in the area that we're at is well equipped. I love my biscotti to dip my coffee in. I'm a dipper, so I love
to dip, and feel safe doing it.
Michelle Ross: Great. This is good. I'm glad somebody asked this, so we can clear it up. Spelt and
kamut are in the toxic family of gluten, so they definitely need to be avoided. Then, Nancy mentions that
the wheat in Europe is not treated with glyphosate, so for the most part, they are not allowed, so that's
another aspect. I saw a question about legumes being sprayed with glyphosate, as well, so purchasing
organic, non-GMO certified is important for those processed foods, as well.
Dr. Tom O’Bryan: Yes. Yes, agreed. There are a number of people, like Nasiah saying, "I make my own
soap." Heather says, "Everything going under your armpits, 100% absorbed into your body, all those
dangerous chemicals."
You're absolutely right that we cross a threshold of toxic chemicals. It used to be that we would do urine
tests to see if you have Bisphenol A in your urine. It's a waste of time and a waste of money to do that
anymore. Everybody's got Bisphenol A in their urine now. Infants are born with Bisphenol A in their
bloodstream because they got it from their mother.
Now, what you check is for antibodies to Bisphenol A, meaning you've crossed the line, and your immune
system will not tolerate any of the stuff anymore. Now, your immune system's trying to fight Bisphenol A,
and it's trying to fight Red Dye No. 3. And it's trying to fight arsenic, and fight aluminum, and you wonder
why degenerative diseases are so much more common. That's the whole education program that we're
setting up at theDr.com for people. It's called The Four Pillars program, and it'll be coming out pretty soon.
We'll tell you guys all about it, to educate you about all this stuff, so that you can develop the lifestyle to
protect yourself from this. It's coming soon, but you're absolutely right about the absorption of all these
toxic chemicals in our body.
Chemical Screens/Tests
Michelle Ross: Yes. Cyrex Array 11 is the multiple chemical screen. Array 12 is the pathogen test. Our next
question is: “What about MRT, LCAT, the leukocyte test?”
Dr. Tom O'Bryan: They're all good tests. They all have value. I don't know that there's one test out
there that I would trash. I don't think so, not now. And there probably are some that haven't gotten on our
radar screen. What most of the researchers look at is antibodies. See, there are two categories of an
immune response. There's one called the innate immune system. That's the one that's automatic response,
the first response. It takes care of any threat that comes in, and it creates inflammation to get rid of that
threat. But when the innate immune system can't handle the job anymore, when there's more of the
threat, or the threat keeps growing even though the innate immune system is making the inflammatory
cytokines, and it needs help, it calls in the adaptive immune system.
The adaptive immune system is how, as humans, we've adapted. We have a stronger immune system. So if
you think of the innate immune system as a six shooter firing chemical bullets, the adaptive immune
system that makes antibodies is firing bazookas. What I like to look for is antibodies. Do you have elevated
antibodies? Because now we know that your innate immune system can't even handle it anymore. And
some of the tests in this question are the innate immune system. They're the initial responders. And they're
valid tests. And if you have elevations there, you have a problem. But I personally, in our practice, like to
look to see if the reserves have been called out, if the big guns are out now, because the science is really
clear. When you have elevated antibodies, you cause a lot of collateral damage, and this stimulates the
whole autoimmune mechanism.
Michelle Ross: Absolutely. So we usually recommend the Vibrant Wellness food sensitivity test, Cyrex
Array 4 or Cyrex Array 10. But the MRT LEAP or LPET test can be really beneficial if somebody's not
producing optimal antibodies, because then an antibody test for them wouldn't be a valuable investment.
And so that can be a good backup test in that case, to find out what they're reacting too. Correct? Okay.
Every newborn child now in the US has, on average, 186 toxic chemicals in their bloodstream at birth. 186
toxic chemicals that aren't supposed to be there because Mom has all these toxic chemicals in her body. So
a baby is already fighting a losing battle in a sense. This is one of the reasons why autism is going through
the roof. There is an epidemic that it's not stopping. It's because of all the toxic chemicals that we are all
fighting in utero.
And then, it's all of the toxic chemicals that we're exposed to in our life. Our immune system is fighting
Bisphenol A that's in plastic. It's fighting mercury that's in tuna fish. It's fighting PCBs that are in the apples.
It's fighting the antibiotics that are sprayed on the vegetables like your inorganic broccoli. The immune
system is fighting all of this stuff. All day, every day. It becomes so trigger happy fighting all this stuff, it
sees the minor irritants like wheat and says, "No. No more."
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Michelle Ross: What is the next step if someone has been off grains and soy and dairy for years and is still
battling irritable bowel disorder?'
Dr. Tom O’Bryan: Are you off wheat? I don't hear wheat in there.
Michelle Ross: So it could be inflammatory bowel disease as well. That's when you really need to work
with a functional medicine practitioner to find out what else is going on. Are there toxic metals? Is there
some kind of environmental toxicity? What else is going on? Have you done a stool test?
Dr. Tom O’Bryan: Right. What's going on in the environment of the intestines that's causing the
inflammation, the inflammatory bowel disease? Where is the inflammation coming from? Everyone wants
to know, "How do I put the inflammation out?" That's a very important question. Really important so you
can feel better and not suffer, but where is the inflammation? Where's the gasoline? Is it gasoline or
kerosene? Where's it coming from? You have to make that a primary question. We talk about that a lot in
the book The Autoimmune Fix.
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