Buddhism and Christianity Face To Face
Buddhism and Christianity Face To Face
Buddhism and Christianity Face To Face
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BUDDHISM AND CHRISTIANITY
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BY
J. M. PEEBLES, M.D. ,
Fellow of the Academy of Sciences, New Orleans, U.S.A.; Fellow of the
Anthropological Society, London ; Corresponding Member of the Psycho-
logical Society of Great Britain ; Corresponding Member of the Oriental
Society, India, &c.
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PREFACE.
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INTRODUCTION.
" Mind is the root ; actions proceed from the mind. If any one
speak or act from a corrupt mind, suffering will follow, as the dust
follows the rolling wheel. '
BUDDHA.
* * *
Not only have one or two of the most educated men amongst
them, priests and laymen, put forward pamphlets and
periodicals in the vernacular, in defence and illustration of
their creed, but there is a greater activity generally amongst
the Buddhist priesthood, with the object of awakening in the
minds of the people a more lively feeling towards their faith.
Religious services are now being held every Sunday, as the
appointed day of rest amongst nearly all classes , whereas it
was the wont of the priesthood some few years ago to call
their congregations together only on the occasion of some
day memorable in their calendar for its sanctity. Temples
are in course of construction, and where such work is not
immediately practicable, temporary structures have been
erected in which the people may assemble, and seated on
benches listen to the recital of ' Bana,' and the exhortations
and illustrations of the ministering priest.
virtually lifted out of, and living above the plane of the
s
Nirvana ."
When a Buddhist, through aspiration and effort, has
attained a very high degree of spirituality, he is considered a
Rahat. And these Rahats, by dieting, by fasting, and
prayer, become so spiritual, so ethereal that they can rise in
the air, control to some degree the elements, and can even
become invisible, or vanish from sight, as did Jesus when
walking upon earth so many days in his spiritually--
materialised body.
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THOSE who are acquainted with the every day village life in
Ceylon can form no idea of the appearance Pantura presented
on the occasion of the great controversy between the Protes-
tants and Buddhists. The time appointed for commencing the
discussion was eight o'clock in the morning, and long before
that hour thousands of natives were seen wending their way,
attired in their gayest holiday suits, into the large enclosure
in which stood the ample bungalow where the adversaries were
to meet. By seven the green was one sea of heads. Each
district had sent its quota of villagers, and Colombo was
represented by a few intellectual looking, silk-garbed young
Singhalese, determined to give up all for the great champion
of Buddhism- Migetiuwatte .
The Protestant party too was very strong . From
Monday, catechists and clergymen of every denomination ,
Baptist, Wesleyan and Church Missionary, flocked from
various parts of the Island into the large house prepared
for them, one of them, an Oriental scholar of some
note, leaving the itinerating work in the wilds of
Anoorajapoora , to take part in this important discussion, and
assist the Protestant spokesman - Rev. David Silva. The
temporary building, the scene of this polemical strife, was a
neat cadjan-roofed structure with a raised platform , and
parted off in the middle : one portion was occupied by the
Rev. David Silva and his party, and the other by the Rev.
Mohattiwatte Gunanda, commonly known as Migettu-
watte, and about 200 priests. An attempt had been made to
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come in unto your houses to smite you .""" This shewed that
it was impossible for Jehovah to distinguish the houses of
the Israelites without this outward and visible sign : if he
were omniscient, surely this was not necessary. What right,
then, had they to call this being an omniscient God ? He
(the Priest) knew that his friend the rev. gentleman would
attempt to explain this away by assigning the ridiculous
reason of its being a symbol of Christ's death ; but he would
not let him off with any such puerile reply.
In the command given to Moses in Exod. iv. 6, with refer-
ence to the miracles that he was to perform before the King of
Egypt, God's orders were to do a certain miracle , and if the
Israelites were not given up , to perform a second and so on ;
but what was the necessity for this conditional order if he were
omniscient ? He should have certainly known the effect
of those miracles if he really were what he was represented
to be. Was not imperfect human nature betrayed even in
this ? The line of conduct of a medical man was precisely
similar : if one medicine failed , another was prescribed ; this
was simply because the medical man was not omniscient, was
not certain of the effects of each medicine. What, then, did
this incident shew ? Simply what he asserted before, namely,
that the Creator was not omniscient.
There was another passage in the Bible which would give
them an idea of the nature of the God that the Christians
believed in ; and that was Exod . iv. 24. It was there stated—
"And it came to pass bythe way in the inn, that the Lord met
him, and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone,
and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and
said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me. So he let him
go." They will here see that the means adopted by Zipporah,
when God sought to kill Moses whom he had once chosen as
a servant, were not quite unknown to some of them. Did
it not remind them of the sacrifices usually made to appease
the wrath of some other beings whom it was unnecessary to
name ? What was the procedure adopted by devil dancers
in this country when any body was afflicted with a disease
brought on by the influence of evil spirits ? Was it not to
shed the blood of a goat or a fowl, as the case might be, by
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great pains, and acting according to, and realising the several
results of, the four sublime paths of virtue prescribed by
Buddha, namely, Sovan, Sakradagami, Anagami, and Arhat.
A being who walks thus will be saved.
The eloquent Priest, again reverting to Christianity , said
that he could cite another instance which shewed that the
God whom the Christians worshipped was fond of human
sacrifices namely, the case of Jephthah's daughter, who was,
it was declared, sacrificed according to Jephthah's vow.*
Though the Protestants tried to make out that it was not
literally carried out, yet he would refer to a note against that
passage appearing in the Douay Bible, which stated that the
sacrifice was made ; and here he could not but pass a high
VERSY AT PANTURA.
not by those who heard him preach, and not during his life-
time, or that of those who were his contemporaries ; but,
according to Mahawansa and Sarasangraha, four hundred and
fifty years after Buddha's death, at a convocation of priests
in Aluwihare of Matella in this very Island. Up to that day
Buddha's sayings were transmitted orally, and what weight
could be attached , the Catechist imploringly asked of his
audience, to such documents, which simply stated that some
four or five hundred years ago there lived a sage in a distant
land called Dambhadiva, etc.; and he is said to have ex-
pounded such and such doctrines ? Would a last will, with
such meagre evidence, be considered genuine in a Court of
Justice ? If not, how are they to receive as true documents
which concern matters of such great moment as the
salvation of men's souls ? It is also stated in Buddhist
books that Gautama attained Buddahood by the observance
of the ten Paramita (or sacrifices) ; and so it will be well to
see whether those rites or offerings could have the effect
which they are said to have had. The first Paramita or
observance they read of as having been performed by Buddha
with the view of accumulating merit, and attaining the Budda-
hood, is Dana paranita, or almsgiving, which, besides others,
consisted of the extraordinary offering of his eyes, head, flesh,
blood, wives and children .
Many of those present knew with what love, care,
and attention a daughter is brought up by the parents ;
how at her proper age, whatever their affection to
each other may be, when she is given in marriage
to an utter stranger, the attachment to her parents gives
place to love for her newly found husband, and how the wife
looks solely to her husband for her comfort and sustenance.
They were also not unacquainted with the fact that the birth
of children only tended to strengthen this bond of union, and
form a happy family. And what will they think of a father,
living in such happiness, giving up his children without any
hesitation or sorrow to a wandering hermit, amidst the cries
and lamentations of his wife and the children themselves,
without any inquiry as to what he was going to do with
them, simply because he came to the door of this happy abode,
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said, " For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be
made alive ❞ —which statement clearly shewed -and it is the
belief of these Christians-that by believing on Christ
every one shall escape the punishment of eternal hell-fire and
obtain everlasting happiness. But there was another passage
in the Bible which had quite a different meaning , and he
would like to know how the Christians reconciled two such
diametrically contradictory declarations. He referred to
Matt. xxv. 41-46, wherein appeared the words " Then
shall he say also unto them on the left hand , Depart
from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the
devil and his angels : For I was an hungered , and ye gave
me no meat. I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink : I
was a stranger, and ye took me not in ; naked , and ye
clothed me not ; sick and in prison, and ye visited me not .
Then shall they also answer him saying, Lord, when saw we
thee an hungered , or athirst, or a stranger, or in prison , and
did not minister to thee ? Then shall he answer them
saying, Verily I say unto you , inasmuch as ye did it not to
one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these
shall go away into everlasting punishment ; but the
righteous unto life eternal. " If words have any meaning,
this clearly shews that men's salvation does not depend upon
belief in Christ alone ; but to attain happiness hereafter it
was necessary to perform righteous or good actions. Then
what did Christians mean by declaring that all who
believe on Christ's name would be saved ? If one portion
of the Bible so hopelessly contradicts' another portion , which
one were they to accept as true ? It was certain that both
statements could not be true, and which was the false one ?
What right had they then to believe in a Bible which con-
tained so many contradictions ? and were they not justified
in coming to the conclusion that a religion based upon
*
such a book, was false ?
2nd Sam. , xxiv. v. 1 .-"And the I. Chron., xxi. v. 1.—' , And Satan
Lord moved David " to number the stood up, and provoked David tɔ
children of Israel. number Israel."
9.-" Job gave up the number 5.-" And Joab gave the sum of
of the people unto the king, and the number of the people to David.
there were in Israel, 800,000 men And all they of Israel were
that drew the sword , and the men 1,100,000 men that drew the sword ;
of Judah w re 500,000 men ! " or and Judah was 470,000 men that
a total of 1,300,000. drew the sword ," or a total of
1,570,000.
13.-" So Gad came to David and 11.-" So Gad came to David and
said unto him , Shall seven years of said unto him, Choose thee either
famine come unto thee in thy three years of famine," etc.
land ? " etc.
24.-" So David bought the 25.-" So David gave to Ornan
threshing-floor and the oxen for for the place, six hundred shekels
fifty shekels of silver ; " equal tó of gold," equal to £ 1,050 of our
£5 of our money, at two shillings money, at £ 1 15s. per shekel.
the shekel.
For I have seen God face to face. No man hath seen God at any
—Gen . xxxii. 30. time.-John i. 18.
And they saw the God of Israel. Whom no man hath seen nor can
-Ex. xxiv. 19. see.-I. Tim. vi. 16.
The Creator *
*
He rested and was refreshed.- fainteth not,
Ex. xxi. 19. neither is weary.—Is. xl . 28.
I am weary with repenting.-Jer.
XV. 6.
The eyes of the Lord are in every And the Lord came down to see
place.-Prov. xv. 3. the city and the tower.-Gen. xi 5.
Is there anything too hard for And the Lord was with Julah
me ?-Jer. xxxi. 27. * * but could not drive out the
With God all things are possible. inhabitants of the valley, because
-Mat . xix. 26. they had chariots of iron.-Judges
i. 19.
God is not a man * * that he And God repented of the evil he
should repent.-Num. xxiii. 19. had said.-Jonah iii. 10.
Those that seek me early shall They shall seek me early, but
find me.- Prov. viii. 17. shall not find me.-Prov. i. 28.
To undo the heavy burdens, and Of the children of the strangers
to let the oppressed go free, and that do sojourna*among you, of them
that ye break every yoke.-Is. shall ye buy. * They shall be
lviii. 6. your bondmen for ever.-Lev. xxv.
45, 46.
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the Christians, and this all those who were present would
remember. He (the Priest) had never denied the existence
of a future state, but what he required was simply that the
opposite party should explain to him the nature of what they
meant by Atma. He had most plainly shewn them what
they (the Buddhists) understood by the idea of cleaving to
existence which took shape at death. The Catechist men-
tioned something about the dwellers of the Arupa Brahma
loka in explanation of Atma , but if his friend had correctly
understood what was said in regard to Arupa Brahma loka,
he was sure he would not have brought it forward as an
illustration .
Some nonsense was also uttered by the Catechist
in reply to the remarks made by him (the Priest ) ,
with reference to God's command to Moses to perform a
series of miracles before Pharaoh, according to the effect that
each one produced , thereby shewing that God was not
omniscient ; to meet this objection his friend declared that
the plagues had been inflicted on Egypt to punish Pharaoh
for his haughtiness ; but what had that to do with the com-
mand " do this and if that won't induce him to let the
people go, do the other , etc. " Those of the assembly who
had any common sense would be able to judge of the in-
appropriateness of this reply to the objection he raised.
The reply his friend made to his remarks on the circumci-
sion of Moses' son was not more happy. It was plainly declared
in the Bible that when Zipporah, Moses' wife, knew that God
was angry with Moses and sought to kill him, she circum-
cised their son and cast the foreskin at his feet, and this was
instanced by him to shew the fondness of the Christians'
God for human blood as a sacrifice, in common with devils
and other evil spirits ; the course adopted to appease whom,
he would again remind them, was the same as that pursued
by Zipporah in the passage he had just cited . The Cate-
chist could not have possibly understood his (the Priest's)
meaning ; if he did he would not certainly have adduced
such a ridiculous reply as he had done. He contented him-
self by saying that the foreskin was cast at Moses' feet.
Apart from the absurdity of endeavouring to convince them
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Rev. Mr. de Silva rose, and said that as that was the
last speech he had to make in that discussion, he asked the
assembly to pay due attention.
Referring to the Priest's charge against him for using the
term wiruddha karaya, opponent, he said that the term was
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* This reference on the part of the Rev. Mr. Silva to Meru (or Maha-
meru)-termed in Hindu Mythology, " the navel of the earth,"-was, in our
opinion, ill-timed and out of place in a discussion relating to Buddhism ;
and for the reason that it is Hinduism, rather than Buddhism , that
has to do with Meru. This mountain, reputed so high and so broad, is
traceable to Hindu legends, originating long before Buddha's time.
The same mountain was referred to by Cleanthes and Anaximenes, shew-
ing an interchange of thought between India and Greece. Buddhism bore
something the same relation to Hinduism that Luther's Reformation
bore to Roman Catholicism.
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REMARKS .
flings off the bands of the household like a kovilara tree its
leaves, and walks alone . He who has houses, and fields, and
cattle, and children grieves ; but he who is content, who has
no object of selfish desires, does not grieve. The greatest is
he who, desiring the least, gives the most. Humility is
better than honour. • I learned a lesson from one who
sat calm and happy by the way- side, asking alms of the rich
that he might bestow them upon the poor. . . The Brah-
mans, protected by virtue, were not injured by others.
They were invincible. None ever stopped them at the doors
of their houses. Formerly they practised celibacy from
their youth up to their forty-eighth year. The more con-
secrated continued pure unto the end of life. He who frees
himself from lasciviousness, refuses to recount worthless
stories, abandons inordinate laughter, and yields not to
greediness, worldliness, and hypocrisy, becomes established
in peace, and knows what constitutes the true essence of
wisdom and peacefulness. . . . Good friends may be ad-
mitted into one's company ; but not obtaining such friends,
let one subsist upon pure food, engage in prayer, and walk
alone. I lived for a night on the banks of the Mahi ;
the house was roofless, the fire was extinguished by the rain,
and yet I was happy, because free from anger, free from
stubbornness , free from passions." " Like an ox that has
broken its bindings, like an elephant that has broken the
galucchi creeper, I have broken the chain of worldly attach-
ment. I shall not return for re-birth. I shall enter Nir-
vana. "" · " My mind is free from passions, is released from
the follies of the world, has long been under training, is
under thorough control ; there is no sin whatever in me. I
have obtained the victory."
Thus spake Buddha to Ananda, and other disciples.
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