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 Amarsh213 ·  Jun 10, 2018

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Jun 10, 2018  #1

Amarsh213
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Gelatin seems to be under rated on this fourm.

The importance of protein cannot be understated, but nothing changed my metabolic rate/health like
consuming copious amounts of beef gelatin.

This is after 18 months of peating, gelatin was the key all along.

2-3 Large table spoons with every meal and I eat 5 times a day. Alongside collagen in orange juice
during/after working out.

Here's what happened.

1) I was able to cold turkey quit nicotine with zero effort. I mean without thinking about it. My habitual use
was 2-5 nicotine products a day (dip/cig) to nothing. I noticed that gelatin kills the desire to consume
nicotine after a protein heavy meal, which I assume has to do with tyrophan. And tobaccos effect on
increasing T3.

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2) Cortisol seems to dropping drastically as my hairline is begenning to grow back, those small venus hairs
are popping up everywhere

3) Calcified/chrome temples where there is hair loss is starting break up and losen up

4) Metabolism is picking up, since I am not rely on stress hormones/nicotine. I am getting leaner

Gelatin is awesome and I believe people should experiment with much higher doses.
taurine can also be very useful

If cost is an issue.

NOW gelatin is 40% the price of Great lakes, and it mixes better and dissolves better without clumps.

Jun 10, 2018  #2

bistecca
Member

I think people, like you said, overlook the importance of massive amounts of gelatin. I feel so much better
when i drink several cups of broth a day. I've heard it said that it used to be commonplace for every home/inn
to have an almost perpetual broth pot, which could contain any number of different animal parts along with
veg.

Jun 10, 2018  #3

benaoao
B Member

30% of the protein content is what Peat recommends

Started doing this never looked back. It’s costly but then you start dropping every other supplement off and
you’re actually saving money

Jun 11, 2018  #4

yoshiesque
Y Member

Amarsh213 said: 

Gelatin seems to be under rated on this fourm.

The importance of protein cannot be understated, but nothing changed my metabolic rate/health like consuming
copious amounts of beef gelatin.

This is after 18 months of peating, gelatin was the key all along.

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2-3 Large table spoons with every meal and I eat 5 times a day. Alongside collagen in orange juice during/after
working out.

Here's what happened.

1) I was able to cold turkey quit nicotine with zero effort. I mean without thinking about it. My habitual use was 2-
5 nicotine products a day (dip/cig) to nothing. I noticed that gelatin kills the desire to consume nicotine after a
protein heavy meal, which I assume has to do with tyrophan. And tobaccos effect on increasing T3.

2) Cortisol seems to dropping drastically as my hairline is begenning to grow back, those small venus hairs are
popping up everywhere

3) Calcified/chrome temples where there is hair loss is starting break up and losen up

4) Metabolism is picking up, since I am not rely on stress hormones/nicotine. I am getting leaner

Gelatin is awesome and I believe people should experiment with much higher doses.
taurine can also be very useful

If cost is an issue.

NOW gelatin is 40% the price of Great lakes, and it mixes better and dissolves better without clumps.

can i ask how much you weigh? how much body fat do you have roughly? also whats your calorie intake
daily? i just want to assess so i can eat the equivalent amount for my body type.

Jun 11, 2018  #5

ddjd
Member


Amarsh213 said: 

Gelatin seems to be under rated on this fourm.

The importance of protein cannot be understated, but nothing changed my metabolic rate/health like consuming
copious amounts of beef gelatin.

This is after 18 months of peating, gelatin was the key all along.

2-3 Large table spoons with every meal and I eat 5 times a day. Alongside collagen in orange juice during/after
working out.

Here's what happened.

1) I was able to cold turkey quit nicotine with zero effort. I mean without thinking about it. My habitual use was 2-
5 nicotine products a day (dip/cig) to nothing. I noticed that gelatin kills the desire to consume nicotine after a
protein heavy meal, which I assume has to do with tyrophan. And tobaccos effect on increasing T3.

2) Cortisol seems to dropping drastically as my hairline is begenning to grow back, those small venus hairs are
popping up everywhere

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3) Calcified/chrome temples where there is hair loss is starting break up and losen up

4) Metabolism is picking up, since I am not rely on stress hormones/nicotine. I am getting leaner

Gelatin is awesome and I believe people should experiment with much higher doses.
taurine can also be very useful

If cost is an issue.

NOW gelatin is 40% the price of Great lakes, and it mixes better and dissolves better without clumps.

This one?
Now Foods, Real Food, Rindergelatine-Pulver, 1 lb (454 g)

Jun 11, 2018  #6

Glassy
Member

I love the powdered gelatine, I buy a 1kg bag each fortnight for about $35 (family of 4). Apart from a bit of
improvement in my joints I’m not sure I could pinpoint any great improvement in health to it. I think it’s great
for cooking though and I think of it as food rather than a supplement.

I make a tough jelly/jello with fruit juice or cordial concentrate (110g gelatine to a litre of liquid). I set it in an
old ceramic lasagne dish and cut into 1 inch slices to have with meals. I’m thinking of putting taurine in my
next batch but last time I did it I think it may have affected the texture.

I have the courser stuff and hydrate it before dissolving (10-20 mins+ in a little cold liquid) which makes it
easy to dissolve. I add a good 50 or so grams to any anything that even looks a bit saucy (Napoli sauce,
ground beef, gravy, chopped liver, etc) and it adds an amazing velvety texture. It used to form gluey lumps
before I discovered hydrating it first.

Jun 11, 2018  #7

trew
T Member

benaoao said: 

30% of the protein content is what Peat recommends

Started doing this never looked back. It’s costly but then you start dropping every other supplement off and
you’re actually saving money

which gelatin are you using?

Jun 11, 2018  #8

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ddjd
Member
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Glassy said: 

I love the powdered gelatine, I buy a 1kg bag each fortnight for about $35 (family of 4).

are you using the NOW brand also?

Jun 11, 2018  #9

danishispsychic
D Guest

I want to love gelatin but it gives me headaches. Is there a solution ?

Jun 11, 2018  #10

benaoao
B Member

danishispsychic said: 

I want to love gelatin but it gives me headaches. Is there a solution ?

You should try collagen peptides. Try to find a brand which specifically lists the molecular weight; lower kDa is
better. Gelatin absorption is meh IME

Unfortunately I get mine in Europe since my family is there and I travel back and forth; haven’t really searched
for an alternative in North America

Jun 11, 2018  #11

Amarsh213
A Member Thread starter

Joeyd said: 

This one?
Now Foods, Real Food, Rindergelatine-Pulver, 1 lb (454 g)

Yeah

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Jun 11, 2018  #12

Amarsh213
A Member Thread starter

benaoao said: 

30% of the protein content is what Peat recommends

Started doing this never looked back. It’s costly but then you start dropping every other supplement off and
you’re actually saving money

Yeah that probably what my consumption comes out too.

Seriously I bet people consume like 10% of the protein as gelatin on here. Like mabey a few tblspoons at
best. That needs to be quadrupled

After extensive experimenting. I am convinced that thyropthpan even in milk and eggs is the devil itself when
it comes to thyroid and stress hormones.

Jun 11, 2018  #13

Wagner83
W Member

Gelatin gives me awfuk neck, upper back tensions and headaches, it's hard to overlook those, at least a few
others reported a similar effect and attributed to glutamate I think.

benaoao said: 

You should try collagen peptides. Try to find a brand which specifically lists the molecular weight; lower kDa is
better. Gelatin absorption is meh IME

Unfortunately I get mine in Europe since my family is there and I travel back and forth; haven’t really searched for
an alternative in North America

Which one do you use?

Jun 11, 2018  #14

Lee Simeon
Member
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Amarsh213 said: 

Yeah

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Do you know if it is hydrolyzed? It does not say on the package, but it says to mix in cold water and consume
immediately.

Jun 11, 2018  #15

benaoao
B Member

Wagner83 said: 

Gelatin gives me awfuk neck, upper back tensions and headaches, it's hard to overlook those, at least a few others
reported a similar effect and attributed to glutamate I think.
Which one do you use?

This:

Jun 11, 2018  #16

raypeatclips
Member

Oxtail stew consistently makes me feel awful.

Ray Peat Clips Youtube

Jun 11, 2018  #17

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Amarsh213
A Member Thread starter

Lee Simeon said: 

Do you know if it is hydrolyzed? It does not say on the package, but it says to mix in cold water and consume
immediately.

No I don't believe so. Its labelled gelatin and has all the properities of it.

Jun 11, 2018  #18

Amarsh213
A Member Thread starter

raypeatclips said: 

Oxtail stew consistently makes me feel awful.

Intresting. The more gelatin I eat the better I feel.

I may just need the stabilizing/ sedative effects, since regual protein like egg whites/milk can make me sweat
and give me anxiety due to the tyrosine/trytrophan even with paired with copious amounts of carbs

Jun 11, 2018  #19

Amarsh213
A Member Thread starter

Sick individuals are experiencing both high levels of PUFA and FFA, stress hormones..etc. But all that is paired
and enhanced by bad ammino acids floating around also.

So drinking a lot of milk and meat are mimicking the effects of stress that peat wrote about.

Which is why I am convinced gelatin is crucial

Expecially when experimenting with it during/after working out and how the stress response and recover time
were drastically reduced due to the blunting of the liberated tyrophan via cortisol

Jun 11, 2018  #20

jet9
J Member

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Amarsh213 said: 

Yeah

Ordered, let's see how it goes :)

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