My Cesmm2 Wm2011 5apr11
My Cesmm2 Wm2011 5apr11
My Cesmm2 Wm2011 5apr11
IR. SOH KOK ENG SMHB SDN BHD 5th April 2011
FRAMEWORK OF MY-CESMM2
Two documents, MY-CESMM2, Guide & Std Library of BQ
IMPROVEMENTS IN MY-CESMM2 GUIDELINES WITH TECHNICAL NOTES STANDARD LIBRARY OF BQ Format of Standard Library
How to use the Standard Library of BQ How to build up the BQ
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INTRODUCTION
HISTORY OF CESMM & BQ 859 Formal BQ introduced 1 933 ICE introduced standard procedure for BQ 1 953 SMM for Civil Engineering Quantities (ICE) 1 967 CIRIA report 34 1 968 SMM for Civil Engg Quantities (metric) (ICE) 1 976 1st Edition of CESMM-UK 1 985 2nd Edition of CESMM-UK 1 991 3rd Edition of CESMM-UK 1 SMM IN MALAYSIA ESMM3 UK - 1991 C ESMM(M) - 2003 C MM2 ISM 2001 S
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SOME BASIC DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE 3 SMMs MM2-ISM covers mainly building works and does not cover S civil engineering works ESMM(M) covers mainly civil engineering works and does not C cover building works ESMM(M) in tabulated format whereas SMM2-ISM in C descriptive format ESMM3-UK has separate items for supply and lay whereas C CESMM(M) has supply and lay under 1 item
.g. concreting works e ESMM3-UK supply (1), lay (2) C ESMM(M) supply and lay (1) C
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SOME DEFINITIONS OF BQ he Bill of Quantities (BQ) is the agreed statement of the T prices which will be paid for work done by the Contractor for the Client and it shares with the drawings, specifications and schedules the responsibility for defining what has been agreed shall be done he essential functions of the BQ is to limit the difficulty T the Client has in forecasting and defining to a Contractor what is required to do. n the other hand it limits the difficulty the Contractor has O in forecasting precisely what the work will cost. KEY WORD IS SPREADING THE RISKS
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Contractor says he uses CESMM3-UK to price it but the Engineer says he is using SM-ISM?
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SOME ISSUES IN USING SMM Although the Civil Engineering Standard Method of Measurement (CESMM) by ICE UK is often used for works of a civil engineering nature but there are many occasions particularly for, water supply, wastewater, etc, Consultants utilise their own Standard Method of Measurement.
Under 1 Item - Supply, lay, including excavation, valves, thrust blocks, etc Under 4 Items - Excavation (I), Supply & Lay including joints (2), Valve (3), Thrust blocks (4) Under 7 Items - Excavation (I), Supply (2), Lay (3), Cutting of Pipes (4), Joints (5), Valve (6), Thrust blocks (7)
SOME SAY
OTHERS 3m
7m
Pay 7m for supply and 7 m for driving Who can say exactly what depth of pile to be driven??
FRAMEWORK OF MY-CESMM2
FRAMEWORK OF MY-CESMM2 MY-CESMM2 Guide to MY-CESMM2 with Technical Notes Standard Library of BQ
STRUCTURE OF MY-CESMM2
Process Approach
Each division only 8 items (max), WHY??? 3 digit code number, B358, B3510??? B359.1 Manganese, B359.2 - Iron
FRAMEWORK OF MY-CESMM2
IMPROVEMENTS IN MY-CESMM2
Rule C2
removal of trees and stumps (unless otherwise stated in item descriptions), undergrowth, shrubs, roots and the likes. Rule M2 - Where measurement for trees are expressly required, it shall be measured under item for trees.
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Excavate to fill measured as 2 items but excavate to dispose measured for only cut Rule D5 - Excavation to form a profile expressly required shall be classed as cut.
STRUCTURE
FILL
OGL
STRUCTURES
FILL
OGL
Rule M19 - All filling shall be measured nett. Excavation in fill shall only be measured where it is expressly required.
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Rule C1
surfaces before painting including all necessary Temporary Staging. Rule C2 - Items for painting shall state and include the application of base primer/ sealer required before painting the subsequent coats.
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STANDARD LIBRARY OF BQ
STANDARD LIBRARY Code numbers are important feature in CESMM but it is the most difficult to use and therefore not widely used Standard Library with code numbers Format in Excel as it is widely used Used as a checklist and copy items to BQ as required