APPENDIX 2: Aptitude Assessment for the Master’s

Program…. at the Technische Universität München

1. Purpose of the Assessment
Eligibility for the Master’s degree program …. in addition to the requirements pursuant to § 36
(1) no(s). 1 and 2, requires proof of aptitude pursuant to § 36 (1) no. 3 in accordance with the
following provisions. The special qualifications and skills of the candidates should correspond to
the relevant intended profession. Individual aptitude parameters are:
1.1 ability to do research work and/or basic research and methodological work
1.2 specialized knowledge from undergraduate studies in Mathematics,...,or comparable studies.
1.3 exceptional motivation and commitment for the Master´s degree program in ...
2. Aptitude Assessment Process
2.1 The aptitude test will be held semi-annually by the department of Mathematics
2.2 Applications for admission to the aptitude test including the documents set out in 2.3.1
through 2.3.4 must be filed online by 31 May for the winter semester and no later than
30 november for the summer semester to the Technische Universität München (absolute
deadline). The diploma and the degree certificate certifying the successful completion of the
Bachelor’s program must be submitted to the TUM admissions office no later than five weeks
after commencement of classes. If this requirement is not fulfilled, the applicant may not pursue
a Master’s program pursuant to § 36 of these regulations.
2.3 The application must include:
2.3.1 a transcript of records containing modules of at least 140 credits, with a minimum of 118
credits awarded. The transcript of records must be issued by the competent examination board or
university office.
2.3.2 The curriculum of the previously attented university.
2.3.3 curriculum vitae formatted as a table.
2.3.4 a written statement (no more than 2 DIN A4 pages) of the reasons for choosing the ...
program at the Technische Universität München in which the candidate explains those specific
abilities and interests that make him/her particularly qualified for the ... Master’s program at the
Technische Universität München; a candidate’s exceptional motivation and commitment is to be
demonstrated by details on program-related vocational training, practica, stays abroad, or
program-related further education beyond the attendance and course requirements of the
Bachelor’s program, if necessary by appropriate documentation.
3. Aptitude Assessment Committee
3.1 ....
4. Admission to the Aptitude Assessment Process
4.1 Admission to the aptitude assessment process requires that all documentation specified in no.
2.3 has been submitted in a timely and complete fashion.
4.2 Applicants who have fulfilled the requirements will be tested according to no. 5.
4.3 .
5. The Aptitude Assessment Process
5.1 First stage of the aptitude assessment process (application documents, academic
qualification)
5.1.1 The committee will assess, on the basis of the written application documents required
under no. 2.3, whether or not an applicant is suitable for a program pursuant to no. 1 (First stage
of the aptitude assessment process). For this purpose, the committee evaluates and grades the
candidate’s documentation on a scale ranging from 0 to 120 points, 0 being the worst and 120 the
best possible result:
The following criteria will be applied to the evaluation:
1. Academic qualification The curricular analysis is not conducted in the form of a schematic
comparison of the modules, but rather on the basis of competencies. It will encompass the
fundamental subject groups of the Bachelor’s program in Mathematics at the Technische
Universität München as listed in Appendix. Where a candidate’s competencies are at least
equivalent to those listed in Appendix 3, he/she will be awarded a maximum of 50 points. Points
for missing competencies will be decucted equivalent to twice the credits of the correspondig
modules of the Bachelor´s program in Mathematics at the Technische Universität München.
Negative points will not be given.
2. Final grade The applicant gets 18 points. For each tenth of a grade that the average grade
determined for the examinations amounting to 118 credits is better or worse than 2,4, the
applicant will be awarded or deducted three points. The maximum number of points is 60.
3There will be no negative points. If the applicant, at the time he or she files the application,
submits a final degree certificate showing more than 140 credits, the assessment will be made on
the basis of the modules that were awarded the best grades, up to 118 credits. The applicant must
list them in the application and confirm the accuracy of the information presented in writing. The
grade average is calculated from the graded module examinations. The overall grade average will
be calculated as the weighted grade average of the modules. The grade weights of the individual
modules correspond to the credits assigned to each module.
3. Letter of motivation The applicant’s written statement of purpose will be evaluated by the
committee with the help of the listed examples in 2.3.4 and graded on a scale of 0 – 10 points.
The motivation letter will be assessed using the following equally weighted criteria.:
1. exceptional motivation and commitment
2. specific abilities and interests
The exceptional motivation and commitment is to be demonstrated by details on program-related
vocational training, practica, stays abroad, or program-related further education beyond the
attendance and course requirements of the Bachelor’s program and if necessary to be proved by
appropriate documentation.
The basis for the evaluation of the subject-specific interests and goals is the candidate's ability to
objectively demonstrate his previously acquired knowledge and to bring this in alignment with
his own career objectives and the content of the study program . The points total will be
calculated as the arithmetic means of the individual points. The result will be rounded up to the
nearest full point.
5.1.2 The applicant’s points total are calculated as sum of the individual points awarded in
5.1.1.1 to 5.1.1.3. Decimal places must be rounded up.
5.1.3 Applicants who have achieved at least 55 points will receive confirmation that they have
passed the aptitude assessment test. In those cases where it was determined that only some
subject-specific requirements from undergraduate studies are missing, the committee may make
admission subject to successful completion of Fundamentals Exams from the Bachelor’s
program in Mathematics in the amount of a maximum of 25 credits. These Fundamentals Exams
must be taken in the first year of study. Failed Fundamentals Exams may be repeated only once
and at the next examination date. The examination board may make the admission to individual
module examinations dependent on the successful completion of the Fundamentals Exam.
5.1.4 Unsuitable applicants with an overall grade of fewer than 45 points will receive a rejection
notice, signed by the TUM Board of Management and specifying the reasons for rejection and
providing information on legal remedies. Signatory power may be delegated to the chairperson
of the Committee.
5.2 Second stage of the aptitude assessment process
5.2.1 The remaining applicants will be invited for an aptitude assessment interview....
5.2.2 The aptitude assessment interview is to be held individually for each applicant. The
interview lasts at least 20 but not more than 30 minutes for each applicant. The interview will
focus on the following topics:
1. Ability to do research work and/or basic research and methodological work; the applicant is
interested in the degree program´s topics and also in the corrsponding academic.
2. specialized knowledge from undergraduate studies for example on the basis of being able to
show the solution of a representative problem.
3. exceptional motivation and commitment; the applicant is willing to study independently
beyond attendance time.
The above topics may cover the documentation submitted pursuant to 2.3. Any subject-specific
academic knowledge that is to be taught in the intended Master’s program will not affect the
decision. With the applicant’s approval, a representative of the student body may sit in on the
interview.
5.2.3 The aptitude assessment interview will be conducted by at least two members of the
committee. The committee members will grade each of the three topics independently, each with
the same weighting. Each member will grade the result of the interview on a scale from 0 to 90,
0 being the worst and 90 being the best possible result. The points total will be calculated as the
arithmetic means of the individual points. The result will be rounded up to the nearest full point.
5.2.4 The applicant’s points total in the second stage are calculated as the sum of all points
obtained under 5.2.3 and the points under 5.1.1.1 (academic qualification) and 5.1.1.2 (grade).
Applicants with 90 or more points will be deemed suitable.
5.2.5 The applicant will be notified of the result of the aptitude test where appropriate, in
compliance with the requirements set out in 5.1.3 of stage 1 in writing. ...
5.2.6 Admissions to the intended Master’s program shall apply to all subsequent applications for
this program.
6. Record
The aptitude assessment process must be documented.....
7. Repetition
Applicants who have failed the aptitude test for the intended Master’s program may register for
one repetition of the Aptitude Assessment Test.

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Primary Requirements:

 a Bachelor's degree in Informatics or in a related domain 

Further requirements:

 outstanding grades from previous courses

 personal dedication which transcends the compulsory program in a normal study course
 fluent in written and spoken English

Submitting your application

To apply for the Master program in Software Engineering please perform the following steps

1. Prepare your application PDF (written in German or English). It must contain the following parts:
o a statement concerning the personal motivation for the application
o curriculum vitae including activities besides the study program
o transcript of academic records
o for applicants from outside Germany also: a brief description of the grading scheme
o your Bachelor certificate (if available)
o references from internships and other jobs in the IT industry or from academia
o certificates and attestation for technical expertise
o certificates for awards, prizes, and special honors for extraordinary achievements,
commitment and such
2. Combine all these documents into a single PDF. Make sure that the PDF can be openend with
Acrobat Reader and that it does not exceed the size limit of 25 MB
3. Visit our online application system
4. Click on the 'Apply now!' button
5. Fill in the application form.Please pay attention to correctly specifiy your nationality and the
country where your university is located.
6. Attach your application PDF at the bottom of the form
7. Submit your application

After the evaluation of all applications, eligible candidates will be invited to an interview.
Following the interviews, the new students will be selected.

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What is the acceptance rate at RWTH Aachen University for the master's
program in computer science and information systems?
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Neil Bhattacharjee, M.Sc from Aachen, Germany

Answered Oct 23

For masters degree I would say around 15 -20%

Main deciding factors are (somewhat in decending order)

1. Undergraduate score and university reputation

2. Projects/ publication/ work exp.
3. Other exams
4. Recommendation letter
5. Toefl score

Although competition is tough it is not really hard to get into the program if you have good
academics. Bedt of luck!
What are my chances of getting into the master's program (computer
science) at TU Munchen/RWTH Aachen/Karlsruhe/TU
Berlin/Kaiserslautern?

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Mario Hari, Grad student in Computer Vision

Answered Jul 22, 2015

I would say that the admission decision depends on a combination of factors like UG grades, relevance
of Thesis work to your current specialization, side projects, ANY RELEVANT RESEARCH EXPERIENCE,
Publications, strong LOR, focussed SOP, with supporting judgements.

It might be possible to get an admit and that lot depends on how you leverage the above said factors.
Get strong LOR even if it's from not-so-reputed professor where you got good grade and is relevant to
the current specialization, write a compelling SOP stating your experience, projects you've done,
interests that you have. You need to justify each thing. General SOP *will not* cut it.

Be specific in your statments. You can even say things like "I was interested in the concepts of
concurrent mechanisms for file accesses for large scale applications" than to say "I am interested in
Distributed Systems". The former is far more appealing than the latter.

A strong LOR is one that supports(~85%) the claims that you made in SOP.

On the decreasing order of admittance.

TU-Kaiserslautern
TU-Berlin
RWTH
TU-Munchen
Karlsruhe

Good Luck!!

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Gautam Sawala, An Expat in Germany

Answered Dec 9, 2014

First things first, your chance of getting it admit depends on how many students would apply for the
given semester.
But with your resume I assume you have really good chances of getting Aachen as well as Munich! (I do
not have idea about Karlsruhe)
While Aachen has intake I suppose only in winter semester! So check out on that! TU Munich requires
either GATE or GRE scores! But these scores are just to make sure that you have taken the exam and
would not affect anyway in deciding your admit! Meanwhile TOEFL obviously plays key role in admit,
your score is definitely good and would be a plus point for you!

More importantly to cement your admit make sure you write a very descriptive SOP/LOM explaining
what you are interested in, how university would help you improve your skills and how you are going to
work on it! Along with that your LOR must be from a considerably well qualified and well known
professor! It must behold what you put forth in LOM!
I would also suggest you to check out for Saarland University and university of Bonn!

But Aachen and Munich must be your first choice! Good luck :)

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Martin Thoma, studied at Carnegie Mellon University

Answered Dec 11, 2014

I can't tell you what the chances of getting into KIT (Karlsruhe) in Masters (CS) program are. But you
could start here:
Application at KIT

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Soumajit Majumder, worked at RWTH Aachen University

Answered Dec 9, 2014

Yes. Well maybe. It is quite competitive now.

XI, XII scores dont really matter. Write a neat SOP and get good LORs. Rest is not in your control.

What are the job prospects after MS in Computer Science in Germany for
non-Euro students?

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Hariprasath Ragupathi

Answered Nov 18, 2016

I would say Humans are all humans. There is no diversion between us. If a person is good
enough to show his talents. He will survive anywhere . The same applies all over the world and
to the Germany.

The country has multi cultural and diverse economy. Still Computer science is the fast growing
Jobs thought the world.

1.Learn language skills.

2.Get an Internship locally. This shows your talent in that country.

3. Apply and go for Interviews.

Hope this helps!

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Nitin Garg, CSE student

Answered May 5, 2014

Frankly speaking,I have not heard good things for non-euro students.They always prefer German
people,then,european students and then,non-euro students.But still you can try your luck or have
atleast one DAAD internship to enjoy culture of germany.Moreover,Germany has loosen their visa
criteria now.

Which German universities provide the best master's programs for

"theoretical computer science"?
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I don't know exactly about theoretical computer science but these are the Top 4 Computer
Science schools from the current 2015 ranking by the German weekly business news magazine
Wirtschaftswoche (WirtschaftsWoche Online ) based on the reputation of the schools according
to managers and CEOs.

 1. TU München (15,15 Prozent)

 2. TU Berlin (13,79 Prozent)
 3. RWTH Aachen (13,59 Prozent)
 4. LMU München (10,10 Prozent)

I would definitely recommend the TU Berlin, home of Telekom Innovation Laboratories (T-
Labs) http://www.laboratories.telekom....[1] with prominent research staff and leads the Berlin
Big Data Center – BBDC (http://www.bbdc.berlin/start/). There is also a great startup scene
http://www.entrepreneurship.tu-b... recently the chairman of Alphabet Inc Eric Schmidt (former
Google) gave a speech to the students at the university (http://www.tu-berlin.de/?id=165934[2])
and last year Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella did the same.

The Machine Learning/Intelligent Data Analysis group at the TUB is also strong (Machine
Learning).

[1] http://www.wiwo.de/

[2] Uni-Ranking 2015: Das sind Deutschlands beste Hochschulen

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Heinrich Müller, lives in Germany

Answered Mar 31, 2015

The TU9, that is the nine great technical colleges of Germany, are generally considered the best at
anything computer-related. Plus the LMU Munich. Because LMU.

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I definitely go for Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) in terms of Computer Science. For other
engineering studies you maybe can argue RWTH Aachen and TU Munich should get a share, but KIT is by
far the best university for Computer Science in Germany, especially in terms of theoretical computer
science. At TUM you may have better opportunities in terms of connecting with (german) companies,
because Munich in general has more to offer than Karlsruhe, but KIT grads are known and sought out
even by international top tier companies.

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Answered Dec 10, 2014

See my answer is based totally upon only Computer Science and I'm going writr regarding any other
field..
In computer science these are my top hitlists
1. Jacobs University Bremen
2.Hasso- Plattner Institute -  Potsdam
3.ULM university.
4.Passau University
5.Rwth Achen

These are Institutes/Universities offering world class computer science education . No doubt about Job
opportunities, Good Placements and Research Field is also tempting :) and coming to your all budget-
living in here private institutions are not so heavily charged as of their govt.universities. You'll get good
stipend and scholarship according to your performance. :)
That's all I could say..
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Which is the best place to pursue a master's in computer science: Europe
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Victor Mao, Engineering Student at UC Berkeley

Answered Aug 19, 2015

If you have the means of getting into the USA, given that it won't be too hard on you financially, then I
would say go ahead and come study computer science here in the US. Your exposure to computer
science will be so much greater if you manage to land into a school that has a decent engineering
program. The US holds some of the most reputable computer science universities in the world: Stanford,
MIT, Berkeley, and Caltech will all give you a master's education that partners you with world-class
professors, exposes you to extremely brilliant students, and gives you the opportunity to meet some of
the most influential people in the realm of computer science.

It is also worth mentioning that, since you are pursuing computer science, the USA holds something very
valuable in the heart of California: Silicon Valley. Here, you can land a job like nowhere else - Google,
Facebook, LinkedIn, and other big name tech firms all have headquarters here. A computer science
degree will definitely help more if your into tech and entrepreneurship.

Likewise, if you decide the tech life isn't for you, you can always go into finance: Goldman Sachs, JP
Morgan, and other hedge funds actively seek computer science majors and technology analysts and
code writers to manage their portfolios. Attending a US university will be a huge advantage; these firms
don't just recruit from anywhere.

If this doesn't concern you, and it would be a strain for you to come to the US, then go ahead and stay in
Europe. There still are plenty of opportunities, I'm sure, that you can find in Europe as well.

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Souvik Seal, Applied to a number of MS in CS programs

Answered Aug 25, 2015

5 years ago, I was on the similar boat where you are now.. Gosh, time flies!! I applied to 5 German
universities and 5 US schools for MS in CS. The reason to apply to German universities was obvious- low
cost: almost zilch tuition. The job prospect seemed fair as well, given you attain sufficient proficiency in
German and your technical skill is good. Language outside academia is a big barrier there I believe.
While applying to US universities, one of my top concerns was money. So I applied only to those schools,
which can provide me sufficient scholarship money or whose tuition is fairly low. There are many solid
tech schools which satisfy one of the above conditions. A few are Stony Brook, Buffalo, TAMU, UF etc.
You should navigate edulix site thoroughly to get a glimpse.

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Prerna Tiu, Finance majors

Answered Oct 17, 2015

Originally Answered: Which country is best for masters degree to opt in computer science?

Usually US and Canada are the preferred choices for MS

You should visit the websites of the colleges to see the courses offered and the fee structure.
You require a good GRE score say above 304 to apply for a decent college in these countries. To be
eligible for good schools  you need good score of >320 (getting scholarships become easier)

OTP will help you gain skills and allow you to work in the field of your studies and gain experience
 Look at the OPT offered by these countries. Since you are applying for s Science and Technology course
look at US's STEM program
17-Month OPT STEM Extension
Countries like Australia too offer such facilities but only for courses 2 or above 2 yrs.

However the fees in countries like USA, Canada and Australia are high and you would have to shell out
easily >20L ( rough figure ) so you would need a loan and scholarship to help you.

If fees is a concern look into Scandinavian countries like Finland, Norway , Denmark (avoid UK since you
wont get OPT as per my knowledge ) since higher education is usually free of cost for the Euro zone
citizens and are marginal for non euro zone citizens.
However their class strength is usually less. But the climate is not  favorable in these countries ( basically
extremely low temp) However also look at the job scenario in these countries and whether you would
be able to gain some exp before coming back to your home country.  This should be your backup option
though

In addition, prior job experience and a good profile (say good in cultural activities and sports also make
getting into a great school easier)

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Updated Nov 29, 2015

The answer depends on a lot of parameters. Some of them are what do you intend to do during your
degree and after that.
Let me simplify what i mean by 'What do you intend to do during the tenure of your master's degree'. It
means what drives you, subject like Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning have a lot of scope in
US, with GOOGLE and TESLA introducing AI in self driving cars.
There is a lot of development in the future if your choose to specialize in any one of these fields. Also
you could move to China if your areas of interests are Search Engines or Social Networking websites.

Another parameter i would like to focus on is 'What do you do after you complete you degree'. A
reasonable answer to this question will be by focusing on the large percentage of CS graduates inclined
to get a job right after they graduate. If you want to focus on getting a job in your field of interest, then i
suggest getting in a good American university.

US is considered to be the hub of the core CS technological development, with companies like GOOGLE,
FACEBOOK, ORACLE and many tech giants in Silicon valley. If you don't make it here in US no worries, all
of the tech giants have offices globally, you can try to get a job at any of those places. And its not just
about working in all those glamorous silicon valley companies, but the quality of education offered by
the American universities are of high standards, with millions of dollars give to universities as research
grants. However you can also choose to go to Canada, Australia, Germany or China which offer similar
opportunities. Hope this helps you find your answer.

P.S. All the stated points above are compilation of my opinion and facts based on the current market
scenario. I wouldn't advise anyone to blindly follow them. Instead keep them in mind and do an
extensive research of your own. Deciding a university is a big decision, you have to practically live with
this decision for 2 years.

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Answered Apr 8, 2015

Originally Answered: Which country is best for studying an MS in computer science?

If you have good marks, consider Germany: English-taught study  programmes, marginal fees, world-
class facilities, moderate living  expenses (for Western standards), good public security and generous 
stay-back and work options.

For one year of studies you need app. Rs. 6 lakhs (fees and living  expenses included). Your marks should
be above average and your spoken  and written English fluent (IELTS or TOEFL required, for some
courses  GRE). Whereas there are many graduate programmes that are fully taught  in English, for
undergraduate courses German language skills are always  required.

Due to Germany’s strong hightech-oriented economy there is always a  great demand for well-qualified
and achievement-oriented young  engineers, scientists, IT professionals etc.

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Originally Answered: Which country will be the best for the MS in computer science?

Germany Be it Cost Job opportunities Quality of Education or Discipline.

Germany is Technologically advanced country German is official language in

Austria,Switzerland and Germany all of them are Technologically advanced Countries. If U can
do your MS in Germany You will learn german Languauge and you will be open for the job
markets where Knowing German Language for any job is unofficially mandatory but the rest of
the world do not have this opportunity at the same as German degree is highly respected in the
rest of world you can also aspire a job in the rest of English speaking countries.-- 

If you get good paid job in campus selection u can also apply for EU Blue card. and travel all
around Europe and work any where.

Raman

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Sree Venkateswarlu Vemulapati, B Tech Engineering

Answered Aug 6, 2017

An obvious safe bet is US . There is no other country to beat in providing the best Eco-system
for academic excellence , innovation, Process orientation , solid funding for research and the best
opportunities for Talent

I am also enclosing my reply to a similar query on Quors

“ The answer depends on a number of factors , viz , graduate or Post graduate level or research
level , which subjects , your affordability ( self funding / expecting scholarships ) , most
important what are your objectives after taking such courses , say

 further funded research

 be in a academic environment
 maximum opportunities for jobs
 want to continue in those countries or come back to India

There are quite a few professional agencies , which provide information on the best in each
subject ,fee/expenses, possibility of funding , level of competition, % of international students ,
cut off in GRE/GMAT etc.

You can choose an institution in a country , depending on your academic record , GRE/GMAT
scores . Most of the universities have a unique admission criteria , factoring in some kind of
Diversity , unique value you can bring to the course /university . The top schools attract students
with excellent academic record from all over the world. So you have to show uniqueness , some
fresh thinking , research initiatives, some service to community , experience in start ups etc .

While university you get into will add lot of brand value , even if you get into 2nd tier universities
, it is OK as long as you get into get good projects /internships so that you can pursue your
research interests or getting into a go “

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Siddiq Ahmed Syed, MS Computer Science, San Jose State University (2015)

Answered Jun 3, 2017

The answer to you question is for sure USA and to be particular where in USA. I would say
Silicon Valley (Bay area, California)

Why?

All the major companies were born here and their headquarters are here. From Cisco to Google
to Facebook. All the companies are here.

The reason why I am suggesting to do MS from here is because you will not only have good
internship/job opportunities but also you will meet people who are the best in the tech.

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Answered Oct 16, 2015

Originally Answered: Which country is best for masters degree to opt in computer science?
A2A Based on world rankings of Computer Science Departments, the USA. See Top Computer Science
Universities in the World.

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Originally Answered: Which country is best for masters in computer science?

US is one of the best country to do your masters because of the vast opportunities that are
available. the college there have an excellent curriculum of courses, which we can take up based
on our interests, be it big data, data analytics or programming etc!

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Syed Fawad Hussain, studied at Master of Science Degrees

Answered Oct 18, 2015

Originally Answered: Which country is best for masters degree to opt in computer science?

There are many countries who are well reputed in Computer Science education. To me, if you are
eligible and have a sound background of Computer science then go for the following countries:

-USA
-Canada
-United Kingdom
-Germany etc

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Karan Jain, Have helped hundreds of students to get admit into MS programs

Answered Aug 1, 2014

Originally Answered: Which countries are best for pursuing a masters in computer science?

You have asked 2 questions... So i'll answer accordingly.

Best country for Computer Science - US of A

Most economic Country for CS - Germany
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Vivek Das, NGS Geek

Answered Oct 15, 2015

Originally Answered: Which country is best for masters degree to opt in computer science?

I would suggest you to find the Shanghai Rankings or the Newsreport ranking for top 150 universities
and then you can narrow down for a country based on the number of universities that have more hits
for a CS degree.

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Kara Schell, Content Specialist for SchooLinks, Inc.

Answered Oct 15, 2015

Originally Answered: Which country is best for masters degree to opt in computer science?

I would try searching through websites like schoolinks and news rankings and create comparative lists
based on what you find. It's also useful to talk to college consultants from different countries because
they will know more about the universities then you may be able to find just from searching about them
online.

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Awani Patil

Answered Oct 16, 2015

Originally Answered: Which country is best for masters degree to opt in computer science?

hello,
USA is best for this course look for degreefromgermany and degreefrom canada also germany and
canada also good countries for study..

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Pravinchandra G Dhameliya, 5+ years working out of my country.

Answered Jun 28, 2015

Originally Answered: Which country is best for masters in computer science?

I think computer is invented and mastered in US.

As of today US has best scholars and researchers of this field.
So if you want to be one of them join them.

Which german university is the most easy to get into for masters in
computer science?

How hard is it to get admitted to German universities such as RWTH

Aachen, TUM, or others for an undergrad in computer science or math as
a foreigner?
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Jesline Joy, Hi! I am MSc Aerospace student from TU Munich and NTU Singapore. just little ambitious,
persuing my childho...

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Hey Hi,

It is not at all hard to get in these uni. Germans are more conservative and focussed towards documents
and paperwork.
Unlike US, where you can write GRE and TOEFL and get some recommendations and you are in, it
doesn't work in Germany.

From my point of view, you must be convincing enough to them. Most of them are not concerned about
your grades and achievements as the education system is entirely different there. But the way you
project yourself through your documents like cover letter, matters a lot. Since there is tuition fee
exemption in Deutsch unis, they have quotas for each country, for example Aerospace Master's 
programmme for TUM can only accommodate 2 US Students (just an example), so out of 200 US
application, they only select 2. You may get my point here of your profile must be convincing enough.

Lastly, the German universities are great and probably the toughest one once you get in.

 I hope you understand my view.

Alles Gute!!!

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Aviral Janveja, M.Sc. Computer Science, University of Paderborn (2020)

Answered May 24, 2017

To Objectively determine your own chances of getting into one of the Top universities which
you have mentioned above, The following points in your profile need to be solid :

 Your Undergraduate Score and its relevance to the masters course requirements.
 Your GRE / TOEFL Score. (GRE If required)
 Your Evidence of exceptional ability : Projects , College Teams - Interdisciplinary projects,
Research Papers, Etc.
 Strong Statement of purpose and Letters of Recommendations

Now, not everyone has great profile with respect to all of the above mentioned points. and that is
why the admission process is competitive, which it will be for any good university or any
worthwhile thing in life for that matter.

I believe if all these things are in place and you place a well structured and precise application on
time. Then you have a very good chance of securing an admit from one of the above mentioned
universities.

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Arthur Gerigk, studied at Technical University of Munich

Answered Apr 8, 2016

When I applied there was no GPA requirement in maths or CS. This may have changed but I
actually doubt it.
However, they do ask for a cover letter  and may invite you for an interview (it happened to me
for my Master's at TUM) in which you should show that you are informed about the degree, the
university and that you have basic knowledge in your subject.
The much harder part is actually passing exams. In maths/CS drop out rates of 70% are quite
common. I'd argue that if you really want to study at one of the two schools and you prepare well
then you will be able to enroll.

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Felix Matenaar, studied at RWTH Aachen University

Answered Oct 15, 2016 · Upvoted by Vikrant Srivastava, studied CAME at RWTH Aachen University
(2017)

I believe that RWTH takes all CS applicants in the first semester for the bachelor's program. The
way they filter out is due to their high standards. About 50% of CS students give up after the first
year. However, once you pass the first year it starts to become a lot more fun and you can choose
by your interest. I really like the fact that they're giving everyone a chance. Disclaimer: my
information is from 2012.

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Just to clarify- CS is computer science, or computational sciences?

Olga Andreevna

Answered Oct 24, 2015

I think with your background it's possible to be accepted with your GPA.
The only thing you should keep working on is your German, most classes are taught in German because
professors will use many unknown words for you. I helped once a Graduate Student (Engineering) on his
dissertation written in German... his German was not that well and very difficult to understand without
an Engineering Background. I wonder until today how he made it through Grad school with his German.
Anyway, I think it's realistic to say that you have a chance to do your undergrad studies in a German
university. Just make sure that your GPA is is good as possible.

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Zelphir Kaltstahl, B.Sc. IT Systems Engineering, Hasso Plattner Institute (2014)

Answered Apr 3, 2017

It is not hard really, only your grades need to be ok-ish. They might or might not have a NC, but
if so many potential students with better grades apply, they might prefer those over others.

There are also special places for foreigners. I think there is some quota that universities have for
foreigners and disabled people (so that they cannot exclude them). So it should be even easier as
a foreigner to get a place. You can also emphasize your international experience in your
application or motivational letter, which should get you “extra points”.

However, I think if your grades are OK-ish, I don’t think it makes a big difference, whether you
are foreigner or not, as long as you are able to show, that you will be able to follow the lectures
in the language in which they are held.

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Socrates Tutoring, Over 10Y of experience.

Answered Sep 19, 2016

Why as undergrad?
It is better to do that in your graduate studies.
Not hard at all if you meet academic criteria and have money for fees.
International program should be in English (double-check) so no German needed too.
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Duncan Chapple, University faculty member.

Answered Apr 20, 2017

Not hard to enter, if you meet their criteria. Hard to stay in: Very demanding because few
foreigners' German is good enough.

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Radiah Rahim, M.S Computer Science, Technical University of Munich (2017)

Answered May 22, 2017

Quite hard. I have not applied for undergraduate degree myself but from what I have heard and
assessing the students’ qualifications, I would say it is quite hard.

How do degrees of MS in Computer Science from TU Eindhoven, KTH,

RWTH Aachen, Saarland, TU Munich, and University of Bonn compare?

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Debayan Banerjee, MSc Computer Science, University of Bonn (2019)

Updated Sep 12

I am currently a MSc@Computer Science student at University of Bonn. I am in the first

semester. Here are my thoughts:

1. Cost is a major factor hence let us decide to talk only about universities in Germany since they
are free.
2. Bonn does not require GRE or recommendation letters. The course is in English.
3. TU Munich has a better masters program but admission criteria is stringent and Munich is a very
expensive city rent wise.
 4. A lot of people do not choose Bonn for computer science because they are looking for the
“TU”(technical university) tag. However Bonn will never get a TU tag no matter how excellent it
becomes because it is a true university that teaches everything from medicine to sports to music
to engineering.
5. The mathematics department in Bonn is world famous and it has 4 fields medalists (equivalent
to Nobel prize for maths but given every 4 years instead of every year).
6. The computer science department was for a long time a sub department of mathematics, and
hence the computer science course here is heavily mathematical, probably more than what is
taught at TUs.
7. Even so called “practical” courses like big data and computer animation has so much
mathematical proofs as homework assignments that more than half the people dropout after
the first few classes.
8. Bonn has a high barrier for doing well in a course but it admits students very easily. That means
a lot of people struggle to pass the exams.
9. If you are looking for “easy” courses, they are available too. A lot of people come here looking
for the degree, not the knowledge. They manage too. But proper “computer science” papers are
very rigorously taught and the assignments are usually tough enough to gobble up all your free
time and weekends.

As for cost of living Bonn is probably one of the cheapest in Germany, and I got a room in the
studentenwerk dorm within 2 months of applying. If you really need to live near a bustling city,
Cologne is right next to Bonn (30 KMs) and it has a renowned night life.

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Ibrahim al Zant, studied at Technical University of Munich

Answered Jul 13, 2016

All the universities you mentioned are quit good, and the difference between them is not that big.
Personally, I am a TUM graduate, I have picked TUM based on the curriculum of the Software
Engineering specialisation. I really recommend TUM, it has the highest rank among them.
I do not know what is your field, but in informatics, the best thing in TUM that it has a lot of
option for practical labs, which usually have a real projects with real customers. This allows
you to gain practical experience and helps in knowing more people in industry.

The dawn side of TUM is Munich, Munich is a great city to live in but it is crazy when it comes
to accommodation. It is insanely expensive and as a student you do not have a good chance to
get an accommodation. and you need to wait about one year in order to get a room from the
“StudentenWerk”.

Regarding the “career opportunities afterwards”, TUM’s alumni have a good reputation in the
market. So it will help you (not much) in finding a job afterwards.

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Saarland university is the best!

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Vikrant Srivastava, M.Sc in Mechanical @ RWTH Aachen, Deutschland

Updated Nov 21

Yes- if you are scared easily.

Yes- if you can't eat different or new food.
Yes- if you need to earn immediately.
Yes- if you love only the weather in your hometown.
Yes- if you are easily homesick.
Yes- if you can't suffer a little for a great opportunity.
Yes- if you think entering Germany gives you a free pass to success.
Yes- if you can't make friends who are not from your nation.
Yes- if you feel life without chicken masala or rava dosa is no life at all.
Yes- if you can't see the glass half full.
Yes- if you are not willing to make friends not your age.
Yes- if you don't even wish to try and mix yourself in the culture.
Yes- if your opinions are simply the opinions of others.
Yes- if you get scared by news without analysing it.

Yes- if you think you are perfect, and are not willing to change.

I am/don't think any of the above. I can't be sure how difficult it'll be to settle down finally, as I
have not completed my M.Sc. yet, but it's going great as of now!

I have finished all my written exams, am about to finish a 4-month internship with STEP/G, a
small aluminium extrusion firm (in the oldest extrusion plant in Germany), already have a 10-
month (internship+master thesis) contract with Volkswagen R&D starting March 2016 (Edit:
Extended to 12 months, and I got to do the research on Audi R8!), had to unfortunately say no to
a brilliant company like Homepage | HELLA and an institute like DLR (The National
Aeronautics and Space Research Centre of Germany) because either the dates didn't match up or
my goals were different. I also have another interview for a different position with DLR again
today, and hope the dates will settle for this one [Edit: I got the position, but the dates didn’t gel
again :( ].

I believe I am not-a-bad student. I don't have the best possible CGPA, but it's still above average-
and I passed nearly all my exams in the first attempt (doesn't seem much till you see 80% of the
most brilliant of classmates fail a few tougher exams over and over again). I am working hard in
a course popular in my university for being hard, and studying in one of the best and biggest
universities in Germany. That may have made all the difference in itself to that from the
experiences of someone else. I may have simply been lucky, and the name of the institute and the
course may have helped me. As I don't claim mastery over the topic of settling in Germany, I
shall not claim that I am the correct one or that the other opinions shared here are wrong.
Regardless, I shall tell you that if you are willing to work hard and not get scared easily- and also
given that you have enough time and are not in an immediate rush to finish your degree- things
can go great in Germany.

Once again, I can't promise that things will be good- they still might turn out very bad for me
too- but my chances are looking better every passing day, and I am hopeful. Anyways, it'll be
more than a year from now when I finally complete my degree (December, 2016) and I think
many students might need advice before that time.
So, I just would like to analyses this one link, as I have seen it being posted on Quora too often,
and it irks me a little every time I see it being used as proof of failure of the German system of
education. I would like to quote some lines from the article, and hope that you will read it first
before continuing with the answer.

http://www.dw.com/en/brain-drain...

"Despite this, three in ten of foreign graduates reported that it took them over one year to
find adequate employment, while more than one in ten remained completely unemployed."

"One in 10 remained completely unemployed."

Read that number again.

1.

In 10.

0.1

10%

I assume that the last 10% in most countries always have problems finding employment. Heck,
the last 10% in any field would have trouble finding jobs, and need to rethink their
priorities. Don't come to Germany if you think you are in that 10% — if you want a good job in
a foreign nation, you have to earn it. Being in the bottom 10% is not earning it. Also, if you are
in those 3 of 10 who had to wait a year — I am sorry, but even I might have to wait a year. It
depends on the experience level that you had before coming here, and you can’t expect to be
treated better than those who waited and learned before coming to Germany. All that the country
is giving you is the opportunity to come and earn much more than you can in your own country,
so be thankful for it — Germany is under no obligation to hurry things up for you. You came
here out off your own choice — no one knows better than me how it feels to be rejected often (I
have literally a hundred rejections under my belt), but you need to plan well in advance, be
brave, and be ready mentally for such a situation.

"Another 9 percent are forced to continue their job search while working full time, either
because they are unhappy or their position does not correspond to their field of study."

9% are either not happy with the job (I am sure more than 9% of Germans working in Germany
are not happy with their jobs either) or their position does not correspond to their field of study
(but they still found a full time job). What are the corresponding percentages in India? 25% of
Indians leave IT sector every year because "they are unhappy or their position does not
correspond to their field of study". Big f*ing deal.

"I had to paddle upstream the whole time."

I agree. Me too, as well as all my friends. Brilliant students with proven track records, studying
in essentially the most popular course in (one of) the most popular university in Germany. Also,
my German friends here had to paddle upstream. And my friends from US, Europe, China,
Russia, Turkey, or anyplace else. You are in a far away nation, trying to build a new life among
new (and highly efficient) people. They would (and should) have some home advantage (biggest
being the language). You seek them — they don't force you to come. Be ready to paddle.

German firms face "a long process if they want to hire someone from another country"

Yes, they do. So do most other countries. You are telling me USA doesn't do it? (Lol — Trump)
Or that Australia doesn't? Maybe some rules are tougher, but you have to stick with it. Heck, we
make it difficult for other nations to do business with India as well- how is this any different?

"It should be okay to study literature and end up somewhere else," he said.

'He' has a right to his opinion. I have a right to mine. I don't think you can give entrance to
anyone and everyone in your country (if not for humanitarian reasons, and then too only within
limits), just because they want to stay. Practically, certain rules and regulations are necessary.
The immigrants need to be productive citizens of the nation- and it'll be really hard for anyone
who studied literature to solve my mathematical equations, or for me to write deep meaningful
poetry. We spent years specializing in one thing, and Germany allowed us to come learn more in
the same field because they thought we can help them out with our skills as well. They can't
suddenly turn back and say 'do whatever you like', otherwise people will try and cheat the system
every way to simply get on social security and live life happily. In fact, Germany is going to
"shoot itself in the foot", if it does not continue with its policies, and the parliament and experts
understand that much more than a random guy who studied literature and wants to do anything
else now, who got a chance to speak to a news reporter.

I liked the last para of the link though- it says all. ,

"I'm not the typical case," Mamer said, adding that a student's experience in Germany is
"what each individual makes of it."

Maybe I am not a typical case too. But from where I stand, it does look all normal and sensible,
and - though we also face hundreds of rejections- no one around me at least feels anything else.

So what to do?

I have no magic formula. I have no formula that has been tested at all. So I will say things that
seem to me are common-sense.
 
Go out. Meet people. Try and learn a bit of German. Be good at what you do. Try for other
things, but don't suddenly go completely off course. Learn things that you need not. Try things
that might lead to new experience. But more than anything, be brave, be nice to others, be
gentle, be forgiving, walk a mile in others’ shoes, make some relations that don't matter
economically, give to others while expecting nothing back, and try and spread happiness. It
takes time, lesser for some and more for others (and the largest possible for me) but if you
keep trying, things do fall your way in the end.

There's the full answer to your A2A Darshan Hegde. Hope you like it.

Edit: I realise we might have a tough time, but I love the countrymen and their spirit. I may have
been very lucky not to be treated badly- infact loved- by my German colleagues and friends here,
but a nation with such graffiti says much for itself (remember, the people are paying from their
own pockets when the government allows a refugee shelter in Germany, and this is still the voice
of the people).
Edit 2: I read parts of this answer of mine again after 2 years today (November 2017). I have just
started working as a structural safety simulation engineer at the R&D division of one of the
world’s biggest nuclear companies (Areva), learning how to design components to be safe
against earthquakes and airplane crash/missile attack. Reading through the answer once again
now as a working professional (instead of a student), I can see that this was still the best advice
that I could have given others! Now my formula is a tested one, though the sample subset of the
ones to follow everything stated in the formula completely includes just one element — me :)

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Carlos Paul, studied at Germany

Updated Dec 12, 2015

Yes, it is very difficult. Students from outside the EU live in a dream land. I lived there once.

Here is a recent article on the topic

Brain drain: International student exodus from Germany | News | DW.COM | 14.06.2015

While analyzing this is a good idea, remember this. Germany includes EU citizens, who have full
rights of residence and employment in Germany in the category of "international students".

Page on ec.europa.eu

This is a country that pays non EU students to return. You can see exactly who they want as
immigrants

Deutsches Studentenwerk.

Here s my detailed analysis of the hidden barriers to your job search that Germany puts after all
the propaganda. Check my answer on bank accounts.

Is spending 30-35 lakhs and doing an MS from the US worth it?

All the problems others think are problems are not real problems. The real problem is that if
you are non EU there are many barriers to cross. Even if you are EU you have to fight
prejudice. Here s another answer to the job situation after you graduate. (Check Luminita Ratiu,
s answer) That s from an EU citizen, probably Romanian. This is the reality for even highly
qualified non EU citizens.  Also remember German is a hard language. Dreams of learning it
fluently enough to compete on the job market while studying here are quite unrealistic.
Germany wants immigrants. They don t want non EU immigrants.

How fluent should one be in German to be employable in Germany?

You might be lucky but remember according to official statistics, half of non EU students return.
(Check the PDF report above)
Here s an answer from a German on the situation from a German perspective on small and
medium sized companies

https://www.quora.com/How-do-German-taxpayers-feel-about-the-amount-Germany-spends-on-
education-for-foreign-students/answer/Carlos-Paul/comment/12568665?
__snids__=1313161612&__nsrc__=1&__filter__=all

Here s a good analysis of the problem from a German journalist

Frank Kemper's answer to Is it a good time for an Indian Student to plan for a Masters and a
career in Germany amidst the immigrant crisis and the Volkswagen scandal?

Most non EU students here love Germany and want to stay on. They are not welcome.
Germany has NO clear immigration law. Non EU citizens will always be behind a Russian
who has "German" blood or someone who is married to a German or has half German
children.Ironically, even if you answer NO to every single item on Vikrant's list you ll still be
less than the Russian who has a German grandfather and answers YES to each of those
statements except perhaps the one on rava dosa.

Many students come here  and think that because they are happy here Germany wants them to
stay on. Germany has always been big on technology transfer and small on immigration.  
DAAD propaganda is to get your money not to get you to immigrate to Germany. Countries like
Canada give you points for your language skills, your age, your experience. There are provincial
nomination programs too. The US has a large market and is used to immigration. Germany
gives you a chance ONLY if you get a job that an immigration official (again no clear laws)
thinks is suited to your education. Here s the official page that welcomes you to make it in
Germany.

Deutsches Studentenwerk

What it does not tell you is that there are several barriers for non EU citizens before you get
that elusive job that will allow you to stay on in Germany. I have explored these in my other
answers.

Here s another post from a non EU citizen that gives you a more accurate picture of the situation
in Germany.

User's answer to Are there any jobs available if we complete our MS (Communication
engineering) from universities other than TU9 in Germany?

I am happy to see that others think that things may not be so rosy.  "Once again, I can't promise
that things will be good- they still might turn out very bad for me too- "

I am doing a PhD here, and am terrified about returning to my home country. Don t come here if
you are non EU  and want to stay on in the EU. If I d gone to Canada, from where I had an offer,
I d be a citizen by now. Since I was already in Germany and loved it, as well as having
completed a Master s here, I stayed. The report on higher education in Germany (Homepage -
European Commission) puts the reason beautifully

"Several foreign graduates of German higher education institutions appear to opt for studies once
more after a period of job-seeking. As with persons who received a residence permit for the
purposes of studies following on from a residence permit for gainful employment (see section
4.1.1), this decision might also be due to difficulties encountered when looking for a job" (p.57).

There was no "quora" at that time.  Just don t fall for over optimistic people who see the world
through rose tinted glasses.

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Vineeth V, Student of RWTH Aachen

Answered Jul 23, 2016

Vikrant has explained it beautifully, well let me tell my view on that question. I am an
experienced Indian Mechanical Engineer who has been working in India for 2 years and one
among few to be be chosen into RWTH Aachen for Master's this year.

In India itself let's say for example you pass with average grades, do you get a job easily? I don't
need to answer cause everyone already knows, still :
Unless you have good contacts or high grades; working for MNC companies is impossible
within our country itself.

So do you expect it to be different in other places?

There are lot of people who be just providing you with statistics! It is their opinion.Now being an
above average student who passed from a Govt. College and still had to strive to get into core
Engineering feild. I feel that statistics don't mean anything for people willing to take risks and try
out new ventures! Just have fun learning.Look into the courses you like and opt the course you
feel would improve your profile !

Have confidence in yourself and your talent/skills and work hard: There is no concept of
placements like the one we see in our country and amazing thing is people don't judge you by the
college you pass out ; but what matters is the skills you have / aquire and your Language
proficiency in German (at times) . How do I know this? Simple I have been reading, making
contacts with people through social platforms.

Also try to learn language atleast till B-1 so that you can improve your chances and also you
could be able to mingle more local people . After going to Germany, learn earnestly and explore
options. For people who don't give up, there is always hope.

Let me highlight some things which I noticed is important and also improves your chances.

 Learn the language: I started learning German. While learning German at Goethe , I came across
different people of different age groups and different professions all trying to learn the language
and go to Deutschland. Try to make connections. Its fun! Learn the language and make friends
with people who also trying to go to the country. You get to learn a lot about the culture ,
attitude and you might get vital information regarding your stay there.Also you meet fellow
Engineering graduates who are trying for Master's there, they will share all info they have if you
are friendly with them.
 Expenses: No matter what people say Total expenses are low. Cost of education is
comparatively low and in most cases nil!Whereas , in USA and other countries studies Master's
cost a fortune unless you are among a lucky few entitled for scholarships.

Not many countries provides you free education ; So if you are pondering about getting quality
education in lower annual expenses with better opportunities. Opt Germany!

Don't just think too much on Career chances , instead ponder on which Master's course suits your
profile and your career choice. I do advise you to have atleast 1 year of experience before doing
Master's in Germany. Cause it does help you in the long run is what I have come to understand.

Long story short, don't fret on what people would say about. Have confidence in yourself to try
new things and explore. Just opt a course you love to study and start learning! In due time
chances present themselves for those who put effort. Just firmly believe in that.

Alles Gute!
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Answered Jan 14, 2015

I don't have any personal experience about this, but i have friend's over there and they are enjoying
every moment of it.
Some have completed their MS course and working in germany and they find it more systematic and
interesting.
As for them , they have settled life and only thing they are worried sometimes is the cold weather. Other
than that they found that place beautiful and enthusiastic in various different aspects.

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Andrew Sherman, studied at India

Answered Nov 4, 2015

Please don't go to Germany as an Indian . You will suffer a lot . Go to USA or Australia . I know a lot of
people from India who went to Germany to study MS and they felt like an alien there . German
Education is meant for Germans and Europeans. It is very difficult for International students to cope up
there . Also getting a job in Germany is very difficult for non Germans, especially Indians . So I suggest
that you either go to Australia or USA or Canada to study .

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IAS College, lives in Germany (2000-present)

Answered Jul 20, 2016

Are you looking for a place to study Germany? If so, a German university & Colleges could be a
good choice. International Academy of Students offered different platform for Engineering in
Germany, Medicine in Germany, Bachelors in Germany and more… We are approved
recruitment professional institute in Germany. IAS has been helped number of students to
achieve their dream land. IAS is presented with expertise and intellectual capabilities for students
interested in Studying Germany.

Visit here: International Academy of Students – Study Abroad - Want to Study Germany

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Settling in another country even after studying there is not an easy task. Most important deciding
factor in such cases is getting a decent job in your field. However, all the countries prefer their
own citizens, and PR’s for such jobs. If something is left, only then it is offered to other
communities like work permit holders or students. Another factor is the connections you have in
that country, who can help you in getting a suitable job there. All other things are secondary like
culture, weather conditions etc.

So, for some people who make it will tell you the country to be the best, and who don’t will tell
you otherwise.

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Harishkumar Reddy, Senior advisor

Answered Jan 12, 2017

Yes i finished my MBA FH Giessen Friesberg in 2005 with very good grade. I was termed
smartest guy in my class. I had 2 years job search visa but was tired looking for job or internship
as i was Indian not European or American. After 1 year left Germany to US. Biggest problem in
Germany is language barrier they teach everything in English but they need perfect german for
working perfecting German itself takes 2 years of hardwork.

Except Europeans all the people from other parts of the world left Germany. I feel sweden is
better than Germany where there are less restrictions for Indians atleast and getting a job is not
that difficult but weather is almost same like southern Germany.

What are the best universities in Germany for a Master's in Computer

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Vaishali Menon, Product Manager - Admission Consulting at IMS.

Answered Jan 20, 2016

Originally Answered: Which are the best Universities in Germany for Masters in Computer Science or  
any other related specialization?

Hi,

Stick to a TU-9 in Germany for your education. Universities in the TU-9 that offer a MS in CS
(Fully taught in English) include:

1. RWTH Aachen
2. TU Berlin
3. TU Darmstadt
4. TU Dresden
5. TU Munich

Specializations offered at these universities include:

1. Software Engineering
2. Databases and Information Systems
3. Artificial Intelligence and Robotics
4. Computer Graphics and Image Processing
5. Computer Architecture
6. Distributed Systems and Computer Networks
7. Formal Methods and their Applications
8. Algorithms and Scientific Computing
 9. Business Analytics and Data Science

As far as your job scene goes - you will have access to job fairs organized by career services,
networking events etc. You will have to ensure that you take out time to attend these events,
along with your courses and your assignments.

STEM graduates are much more likely to be offered a permanent contract when entering the job
market and have a significantly higher earnings potential. Average starting salaries for STEM
graduates are between €35,000 and €40,000 a year.

An advantage for  Germany is that higher education is fully subsidized with universities charging
zero tuition. International students from o countries other than the European Union (EU) or
European Economic Area (EEA)can work a total of 120 full or 240 half days per year. Note that
this time period does not include work as a research assistant - with no time limit applying to
your work as a RA. Students can generally earn 8354 euros per year tax free, i.e. they can hold a
mini-job and earn 450 euros a month without paying taxes.

Given this - you will complete your MS program at zero cost.

Good Luck!

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These are the Top 4 Computer Science schools from the current 2015 ranking by the German
weekly business news magazine Wirtschaftswoche (WirtschaftsWoche Online ) based on the
reputation of the schools according to managers and CEOs. Basically I would say Germany is
one of the countries where you can have a great education at an affordable price, independently
of the university you attend, so the I would use the following ranking just as a simple reference.

 1. TU München (15,15 Prozent)

 2. TU Berlin (13,79 Prozent)
 3. RWTH Aachen (13,59 Prozent)
 4. LMU München (10,10 Prozent)

I would definitely recommend the TU Berlin, home of Telekom Innovation Laboratories (T-
Labs) http://www.laboratories.telekom....[1] with prominent research staff and leads the Berlin
Big Data Center – BBDC (http://www.bbdc.berlin/start/). There is also a great startup scene
http://www.entrepreneurship.tu-b... recently the chairman of Alphabet Inc Eric Schmidt (former
Google) gave a speech to the students at the university  (http://www.tu-berlin.de/?id=165934[2])
and last year Microsoft CEO  Satya Nadella did the same.

The Machine Learning/Intelligent Data Analysis group at the TUB is also strong (Machine
Learning). 

Footnotes

[1] Willkommen bei den Telekom Innovation Laboratories!

[2] Ein Gespräch mit Dr. Eric Schmidt - Europa im digitalen Zeitalter

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Abhyank Srinet, Grande Ecole Masters in Management Studies, ESCP Europe (2016)

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Computer science is the study of computer programming and other specializations as they
pertain to technology. Master's degree programs in computer science provide training in one or
more areas, offering students the opportunity for advanced positions and higher salaries.

As one of the most employable disciplines across modern industries, an advanced qualification in
computer science is the ideal way for talented individuals to distinguish themselves.

Upon graduating with a masters in Computer Science, you possess a great portfolio of skills in
the areas of Computer Science, Numerical Analysis, Scientific Computing as well as their
relevant Applications, Methods and Techniques.

Here are some of the Top B-Schools in Germany that offer good MS in Computer Science
programs -

 Technical University of Munich

 Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin
 KIT, Karlsruhe Institute of Technology
 Braunschweig University of Technology
 RWTH Aachen University
 TU Darmstadt
 Technische Universität Berlin (TU Berlin)

Also, it should be noted that some of these university programs might be in German, so there
might be a language barrier if you’re not fluent in German.

A Computer Science graduate/fresher might get an average salary around 8354 Euros per year.
As experience increases, the average salary increases to higher numbers.

Also, it should be noted that, while Rankings play an important part while shortlisting schools, it
shouldn’t be the sole reason for deciding upon a particular school. Apart from ranking, factors
like - past employers, local country rankings, immigration laws, language, etc. should be taken
into consideration while shortlisting schools.

Also, remember to select a school which is the best fit for you.

And the only way to find out if it is worth it for you, is to deeply introspect about your long term
and short term goals. There is no way around that.
If you want to evaluate your chances at some of these schools, you can get your profile
evaluation done at MiM Profile Evaluation: Review your profile's strengths , it will allow our
team to give you a better evaluation of your chances at Top Data Science schools.

Hope this helped.]

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David Mike, MA Business Startegy, Colleges and Universities

Answered Feb 2

Hi

Germany is one of the best countries to get your MS in computer science. This country provides
good career start. All the universities in Germany provide internal education standards and study
environments, university campus and making friends help to grow yourself.

For the students who wants to pursue MS in CS the following universities are your best choice.

Top universities in Germany 2018

Jacobs University Bremen:

It is campus based English language university offers the world class teaching. The Masters’ in
Computer science at Jacob University is always the first choice as CS is challenging course.

ULM University

Ulm University was founded in 1967. An attractive and seminal course catalogue, high standard
of education, internationality, interdisciplinary and top-level innovative research have become
trademarks of Ulm University.

Over 10,000 students receive thorough education and support in 4 faculties. The Faculties of
Medicine, Natural Sciences, Mathematics and Economics and Engineering, Computer Sciences
and Psychology offer more than 60 study programmes, some of them taught in English.
Internationally, Ulm University stands out with its particularly comprehensive support for
international students.

The Times Higher Education Young University Ranking 2017 rated Ulm University best
German university under 50 years and among the top 10 worldwide.

Rwth Aachen
RWTH Aachen University or Rheinisch-Westfälische Technische Hochschule Aachen is a
research university located in Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, and Germany The coverage of
the RWTH Aachen engineering studies corresponds with the idea of expanding the electrical
engineering potential. Students receive intensive basic studies – the mathematics, computer
science, and electrical engineering education cannot be beat within Germany.

Hasso-Plattner-Inst. Potsdam

The Hasso Plattner Institute opened its doors to students in the winter term of 1999/2000. It is the
only university institute in Germany that offers an undergraduate (bachelor) and a graduate
(master) course of study in IT-Systems Engineering. Students acquire the knowledge to
conceptualize, develop and implement large, highly complex and cross-linked IT systems. The
bachelor and master degree courses are designed for highly talented young people who are
looking for an innovative, practice- and engineering-oriented computer science studies at a
university level.

Passau University

Passau among the leading 25% worldwide universities. The University of Passau took part for
the first time in this year's Times Higher Education Rankings and achieved a ranking in the 201-
250 group, placing it among the best 25 percent.
Some 13,000 students hailing from 100 countries and more than 1,100 staff in primary
employment in the academic units and academic support divisions are engaged in research,
teaching and higher education support functions on university campus, located just a stone’s
throw from the Old Town of Passau. This campus is not only well-equipped in terms of its
technical infrastructure but has also won numerous architecture prizes.

TU Kaiserslautern

Kaiserslautern is one of the largest IT locations in Germany with the Department of Computer
Science forming its core. As the only engineering-engineering university in Rhineland-
Palatinate, the TU has gained a considerable reputation since its founding in 1970.

With currently around 14,500 students in twelve departments, the University of Kaiserslautern
has a manageable size that ensures close contact with the professors and excellent support.

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Pramod Sripada, Masters Computer s, Indiana University (2017)

Answered Aug 2, 2014

Originally Answered: What are the prospects of doing a masters from Germany in computer science, and
what are some of the best universities for it?
This question has intrigued me for a long time. Luckily i have a friend who has completed his masters in
mechanical engineering in Germany. So I had once asked him about the prospects and the placements
of computer science students in Germany. He redirected me to one of his friends who was at that time
pursuing his masters in computer science in RWTH Aachen University, Germany.

Below are some of the excerpts of our chat.

Q1. How good is CS in germany compared to its competitive programs              in US and other countries?
A.   Well, I do not acquire any personal experience about CS in US or any        other countries and so
wont be able to comment on it. But as far as           Germany is concerned, there are plenty of CS related
opportunity         here. I have seen lots of opening for jobs.

Q2. How are the faculty and academics?

A.  Faculties are very helpful and are flexible in many ways. We do get lot       of opportunity to explore
new technology. We do get chances to get           involved in the research that faculties do here.
Q3. How are the placement opportunities?
A.  There is nothing called placements here. There are lot of jobs available      in Germany. You have to
search and apply for the jobs. However,               there are frequent job fair organized by the university,
but university          do not help in getting you a job. You have to be independent enough         to find one
yourself.
Q4. How  to survive there by working parttime?
A.    Many of us are research assistant (called as 'hiwi') here and that's              how we get to learn new
stuffs and survive independently.
Q5. What courses in CS do they offer?
A.   There are two courses for English speaking students. Media Informatics [1] and Software Systems
Engineering[2]. Check [3] and [4] for the list of courses offered by the professor.
[1]: Media Informatics M.Sc.
[2]: Software Systems Engineering M.Sc.
[3]: Übersicht des Studienfaches Master of Science (M.Sc.)/Media Informatics (M.Sc.)
[4]: Übersicht des Studienfaches Master of Science (M.Sc.)/Software Systems Engineering (M.Sc.)

Sorry for the alignment.

According to me, there are very few courses available for computer science students in Germany. But
the risk is a lot less compared to USA, because your investment in Germany is a lot less compare to USA
and you can any time come back to India in search of a job.

Hope this answers your question.

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Vineeth V, Student of RWTH Aachen

Answered Jul 31, 2016

Thanks for the Answer request, but the others here have covered essential points.

No matter what, do your own research on courses you would like to pursue, it helps a lot! And
also check the DAAD website for basic information on the college and then search about college
that interests you further in qs rankings, and other forums which discuss about colleges!

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Karan Jain, Have helped hundreds of students to get admit into MS programs

Answered Sep 25, 2015

Originally Answered: What are some good universities in Germany for MS in Computer Science?

For Ms in CS in Germany, These are few  good universities below (In no specific order):

Uni Magdeburg
SRH Heidelberg
TU Chemnitz
Munster Uni
Bauhaus Uni Weimar
FH Frankfurt
BU Wuppertal
FH Koln
TU Darmstadt
Uni Passau
Offenburg Uni
Saarland Uni
TU Hamburg

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Puja Singh Rajput, studied Electronics and Communication Engineering at Centurion University (2016)

Answered Jan 27

Hello ,

Here you can find top German university with different course related to computer science both
German and English with application deadline :
Top 10 Universities For Computer Science In Germany | MS in Germany

All the best ! :)

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Tanmoy Ray, studied at Aston University

Answered Nov 16

In Germany, you can go for the following universities:

 TU Munich
 Saarland
 Stuttgart
 TU Kaiserslautern
 TU Darmstadt

Feel free to check this list: Top 21 Masters in Computer Science programs with NO Tuition Fees
and/or Full Scholarships.

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Shivam Goraksha, studied Computer Science at Jacobs University Bremen

Answered Jul 27, 2015

Originally Answered: Is Germany good for a master's in computer science?

Yes,Germany is definitely a good option ,PROVIDED YOU HAVE B2 LEVEL GERMAN PROFICIENCY.
Some good universities are TUM,KIT,RWTH Aachen.. and else you can further check... Total costs for 2
years can maximum be 7 lakhs not more than that... good luck

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Mahapavit Anand, German education expert

Answered Mar 21, 2015

Originally Answered: What are the prospects of doing a masters from Germany in computer science, and
what are some of the best universities for it?

Germany  faces huge shortage of over 100,000 Engineers & IT professionals.  Starting annual salary Rs.
40 Lacs. This presents great career  opportunities for you. For more visit Why Germany
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Prem Patel, Ruby on Rails developer

Answered Apr 17, 2015

Originally Answered: What are the best colleges offering a master's degree in computer science and
engineering in Germany?

 Do not follow ranking blindly.

 Go every university's website and check the courses and electives that university offer.
 Your area of interest matters. Which university has good reputation in particular area.
 And keep one thing in mind that location is as important as ranking. for an example students
those graduating from low ranking university from San Francisco bay area(Silicon Valley) have
more opportunities than higher ranking universities(average and above average) from other
states(Exception for tier 1 and tier 2 universities).

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Rupesh Agarwal, M.S. from University of Ulm

Answered Mar 14, 2015

Originally Answered: Which is the best university for an MS in CS related courses in Germany?

Quoting from one of my related answers..

...as courses in Germany are structured quite differently from University to University. It will definitely
differ between University, Technical University and University of Applied Sciences. It may happen that
some Uni though is not that well known, but has excellent selection and research for field of your liking.

Please check the complete answer here : Rupesh Agarwal's answer to Which are a few good German
universities for a master's in computer science?

I would suggest ro read all the answers to that question. To me there is no difference in the two
questions, but it is upto aithors discretion to redirect.

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Suraj Patil

Answered Jul 28, 2014

The only way you can know which college is really good, is to talk with the current students there, so do
one thing, based on your GRE score or the top rankings make a list of all "good" colleges, then go to
their websites, they have a section in which they give the method of contacting few of their students.

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Aswin Mythili, A thinker.

Answered Oct 6, 2014

Originally Answered: Is getting a master's in computer science from Germany any good?

 It's good, but as far as my knowledge is concerned there are only 2 colleges in top 50 rankings in
the world in Germany with regard to computer science faculty.(techniscat universitat munchen).
So consider your options well, germany is typically well for mechanical engineering faculty.

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Kara Schell, Content Specialist for SchooLinks, Inc.

Answered Mar 25, 2016

You can search through schools in Germany here: Search Any Schools in Germany on
SchooLinks according to ranking, reviews, ratings, tuitions, and all criteria

If you search the keywords masters or computer science it will narrow your search even more.
Make sure to view the school profile of each school that you're interested in so you can look at
the tuition, class size, what the campus is like, etc. Keep in mind what type of university you're
imagining yourself in so you choose a school that is the best fit for you.

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Lakshimi Narayanan P, Metallist

Answered Sep 24, 2014

Originally Answered: I am planning to purse my master's from Germany. I am from a computer science
background. What are some universities in Germany that I can apply to?

I believe you should get down and search for universities for yourself! It'll be better as you'll know what
you are actually looking for.

As a starting point look out in DAAD site and www.mastersportal.eu

All the best

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Answered Apr 30, 2015

Originally Answered: I am planning to purse my master's from Germany. I am from a computer science
background. What are some universities in Germany that I can apply to?

Hi Dear, You can get good scholarship in Germany and there are many good Universities as per your
preference. Can you please tell me your last completed academics and your IELTS score. I will advice you
to contact Shelldreams Overseas for genuine and honest advice on Study abroad. Best of Luck.

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Carlos Paul, studied at Germany

Answered Jul 28, 2015

Originally Answered: Is Germany good for a master's in computer science?

The idea that it is easy to find a job here in Germany is a myth.

I have explained why in other answers, but if you are a non EU citizen you ll find it very hard to find a job
here. There are official studies that show that even though 80 percent of German non EU graduates
want to stay on most of them have to return. Here, for example, is one article

Foreign students quit Germany in droves - The Local

I know bio chemists and computer engineers who went back to India or to the US as they could not find
a job here.

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V.Y. Deo, studied at Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur

Answered Sep 23, 2014

Originally Answered: I am planning to purse my master's from Germany. I am from a computer science
background. What are some universities in Germany that I can apply to?

PG is meant to be training for research.

PG is called the schooling path.

 You eventually/unwillingly/forcibly discover your occupation.

Un-schooling path is to decide what is your dream occupation and follow it up, without going to any
formal school.

The best place is where you secure admission on academic merit and as a result you are paid full
scholarship.

It is better to try in your home country.

Students  who can not clear GATE ( an entrance examination for Indian Institute  (s) of Technology i.e.
IITs, easily go to MIT / Stanford / etc. ).

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Souvik Seal, Software Engineer with interests in Business

Answered Dec 10, 2014

Originally Answered: What are the best universities in Germany for an MS in computer science?

Saarland, Bonn, RWTH, TU Munich,  Kaiserslautern etc hold some of the best CS places of Europe.

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Abhi Ram, studied at Sree Kavitha Engineering College

Answered Jan 8, 2015

im studying mechanical engineering im very much intreasted to do my masters in mechanical

engineering in germany so what are the oppurtunities after ms in germany as a mechanical
engineer ......what are the top 5 universitys fir master in" manufacturing "  as a mechanical
engineer ...plase any budy help ...to find the best universitys in  germany .....thankue..?

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  RWTH Aachen University
 FAU Erlangen-Nürnberg
 Technische Hochschule Ingolstadt
 TH Köln (University of Applied Sciences)
 Technische Universität München

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Technology, Hyde...

Answered Jan 6, 2015

Originally Answered: Which are the top universities in Germany for an MS (computer science)?

these are the top 3 universities in Germany for MS(computer Science) :

1.jacobs university bremens
2.hasso plattner institute
3.ULM University

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Sushil Jain, Student in TU, Darmstadt since 2014

Answered Jan 20, 2016

Originally Answered: Which are the best Universities in Germany for Masters in Computer Science or  
any other related specialization?

Vaishali Menon

has given you the list for same which is what I would have told you. Maybe she forgot to
mention that for CS, saarland university has #1 ranking in Germany.

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Answered Dec 16, 2014

Originally Answered: What are the best universities in Germany for an MS in computer science?

Kaiserslautern is a good place

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Soumajit Majumder, MSc, Communications Eng.

Answered Sep 2, 2016

The easiest way to get an internship in Germany would be using your Professor’s contact.
Usually profs are quite nice and would not mind helping a student. There might be some
requirements from the prof’s side which are:

1. You did your thesis in his/her institute and he/she was fairly impressed.
2. You did well in his/her lectures.
3. You worked as a student assistant (HiWi) and impressed the PhD student under whose
supervision you worked.
Now, the non-easier way is to apply to a lot of positions. In that case,

1. You need to prepare your CV and cover letter in German. Take help from your
friends/colleagues.
2. You should, wherever possible, mention that internship is a mandatory part of your coursework.
Sometimes this comes as a requirement from the company offering the internship.
3. The companies needs information such as your grades, your previous projects etc. Make sure
that you are providing them with all the relevant information.
4. Use websites like xing, linkedin to find internships. Follow companies you are interested in
interning with. And I forgot to mention. Do visit Bonding Aachen which is in a few weeks from
now (December usually) and drop in your CVs. (though they ask you to apply via their career
website, but hey, free usb sticks, pens and notebooks. :D )

That being said, I did my internship in the Netherlands and my prof helped me and also several
of my lab mates with finding the position. Securing the position is up to you. Good luck for your
search.

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Rohit Kapoor, B.E. Mechanical Engineering, Manipal Institute Of Technology (2012)

Answered Sep 2, 2014

Thanks for asking Uday!

I can suggest anything specific to you but will give a ballpark from what I've heard and read.

Both the courses are great engineering courses and I don't think there would be any problem from job
perspective. Computational Mechanics is great if you love Mathematics, Computers and Physics. Good
companies rely a lot on the outcomes of their simulation. C.F.D., Computational Thermodynamics et all
are the various branches emanating from this subject. You know better than me!
As far as Automotive Engineering is best, say Germany and smile. There is nothing which I say for the
already glorified nation. If you have passion for cars,this is the things.

Having said that, from what I've heard from my friends (M.S. aspirants) than more than this, language
can become a problem of you are aiming for a job there. So I would suggest you to get proficient in
German and the course can be decided based on your inclination towards the subjects.

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Charu Pathni, Third year here and still learning. Won't let you make the same mistakes.

Answered Feb 25, 2016

Originally Answered: Will I get a job after studying MS in Germany?

Hello,

Well I understand the concern behind this question and I would be as honest as I can :)

Yes, if you plan 6 months in advance. Start preparing your cover letter and CV on time. Keep
improving it and have a list of companies (in mind or paper) ready, it is possible to have a job
even before you have graduated.

No, if you start just before your master thesis final presentation or final stages of your thesis.

Reason? Well, structuring and wording the application needs time and a relaxed mind. Each
application if put with the effort needs anywhere between 1-2 hours. 

Maybe most of your doubts will be cleared with these:

Job search and application: When and How?

Job applications in Germany: Pitch it just right!

Hope this helped...:)

All the best :)

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Bharat Chaudhary, M.Sc. Structural Engineering, Technical University of Hamburg

Answered Feb 25, 2017

Originally Answered: How easy is to find a job during a Masters in Germany for a international student?

Getting a job during Masters is not a problem at all. Getting a RELEVANT job during Masters
is the main questions. Not let me break down the whole scenario to you.

I came to Germany to study my Masters in the German taught course of Bauingenieurwesen

(Civil Engineering). For me getting the job was no problem at all because I had C1 level in
language and could immediately receive a job offer.

Although many students who came to study in an English speaking course might not be have it
so easy.

 Either you can go and work in fields that are not related to the subject of your masters, e.g. in
Restaurants, Cafes or Printing firms (no German required). Although, the problem with the small
businesses is that since the owners might speak very less or no English, that makes
communicating with you not effective and you might have trouble talking. Other than the
physical work everybody can very well do. You don’t need to open your mouth for that.
 You can check the notice boards of your universities because many a times there are notices by
other small firms or professors who might need help of students for some parts of their projects.
 Also try to apply for “HiWi” or a “Hilfswissenschaftler”in the University in a subject. It will also
look good in your CV and also make you have a deeper understanding with your subject and
your professor.

Having said that, don’t worry about a job during your Masters. There are hundreds of students
who come every year and leave and they can get a job here. You will not be denied one, if you
not let yourself get one denied!

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Carlos Paul, studied at Germany

Answered Feb 26, 2016

Originally Answered: Will I get a job after studying MS in Germany?

While the other answers do give you a picture of the job market, they lose out on one
fundamental aspect, that is Germany is not an immigration friendly country. Look at the
whole debate on refugees. Many of them are middle class Syrians who are highly educated and
would contribute to the German workforce as engineers, doctors, scientists. Instead they are put
into camps, not allowed to work for years, and the whole debate is about "Who is German?" Will
they assimilate? Etc....not about how so many young people could pay the pensions of older
people a few years from now. In fact, most Germans working now will end in poverty because of
Germany's ridiculous immigration laws.

That, in a nutshell, is the problem. Yes, Germany has a shortage of skilled people, the
unemployment rate is  6.4 % etc. However, that does not mean Germany wants people from all
over the world. They want Germans to fill the job, then EU, then those who are here because of
marriage, refugee status etc. International students are pretty much low on the list. The
reason is this. Germany believes that Indian engineers must go back and help India develop,
not stay on in Germany. They are now deporting Afghans while the economy needs people
who are willing to work especially given the demographic imbalance.

Germany sends Afghan refugees home | News | DW.COM | 24.02.2016

I have explored the plight of international students in detail in many of my answers. In short,
even though Germany needs people the barriers towards employment are high no matter what the
field. The report of the German Federal Institution for Population Research says that 1/3 of non
EU immigrants found a job in 12 months. Think of that. That means 2/3 did not find one after an
year. Again, many of the 1/3 rd are working in areas for which they are overqualified or have
other reasons to stay, usually marriage to a German citizen.

Why do universities in developed countries like the US, Germany, Australia, etc. need
international students?
Yes, there are people who find a job but there are not many success stories here on Quora. Most
people who say that it is easy are students or consultants or DAAD employees, all of whom
either don t know about the situation or have a vested interest. There are a couple that have made
it, but if you read their experiences you ll see that they had to struggle too.

Here is my advice to you. Think very carefully before you choose Germany and be prepared to
go back to India. Germany connects immigration to getting a particular job unlike countries like
Canada where that is only one factor. On the other hand if you just want to go back, Germany is
a good option.

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Vandana Munshi, studied at MVM College

Answered Nov 13

First of all you must understand the current skill shortage list and the visa policy. If a subject is
in skill shortage list then only you can expect the availability of jobs. Normally the skill shortage
list gets revised from time to time.Thus if a subject is in skill shortage list , this doesn't mean that
this will remain in it for further years. Even if there is availability of jobs , this depends upon :—

1…Your competency and can do attitude .

2….There are German jobs as well as english jobs, knowledge of german language will enhance
your chances of getting a job.
3…..As per the policy , preference in the jobs is given to german citizens first, then to EU
citizens having job seeker visa. ***Apart from this , citizens of the United States of America,
Australia, Canada, Israel, Japan, New Zealand, Switzerland, the Republic of Korea can apply for
their residence permit for work purposes after entering Germany without a VISA.***

4….Germany visa policy also has a provision to provide 6 months job seeker visa under which
any immigrant from any country can apply for jobs.

5… During past years as many as 300 thousand international students have taken admission in
Germany every year. This number has increased by 18 %during current year. Thus there will be
more applicants for jobs than number of jobs available and this ratio will also be increasing
accordingly.

Thus job can not be guaranteed as this depends upon many factors . I donot mean to disappoint
you but wanted to make you aware of the facts and situation over there . You should after
considering the above facts , assess your self and take your own decision . I would quote - you
can't cross a CHASM in to two small jumps.

**For more information;read my answers related to study abroad Germany.

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Michael Koelbl, Fulbright Scholar, Analytics Enthusiast, IT Researcher

Answered Nov 11

What is your prospective major?

I’m in my final semester as master’s student in Information Systems in Germany. My impression

is that there is an upcoming divide in job prospects. Since the student numbers are skyrocketing
in recent years, there is an increased competition. As a rough rule of thumb, here is my proxy for
different degrees:

Social Sciences: Many applicants for few jobs. Bad prospects.

Business/Non-Tech: Also high competition. However, many options to specialize. Some

flexibility and you’ll find something.

Tech (STEM/ in Germany MINT programs): Feel free to pick from the five job offers you
get!

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Manak Shah, M.Sc. Biomedical Engineering, Hochschule Furtwangen University (2016)

Answered Dec 14, 2015

Originally Answered: After studying for an MS in computer science in Germany what will be the situation
outside? Will I be able to get a job in Germany? Can any one provide the information about the
extension of a visa after doing an MS for job searching?

There are lots of Jobs in Germany in various fields of Computer Science. There are also startups in Berlin
where there is a lot of demand of Computer Engineers.

It will be great if you know German language, if you want to work in big companies. In startups, they
have Interational teams so English will be okay in that case.

In case of situtaion outside, it depends. In Europe it maybe easy to find work compared to North
America or something like that.
One thing for sure, you won't be paid in Germany like they do in USA to the Computer Engineers. So
from my point of view, if you are looking for more money go for Masters to USA.

Regarding visa, after the Masters you get 18 months to look for work.

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Mackwins Education Pvt. Ltd., studied at Germany

Updated Jan 31, 2017

Originally Answered: Can a foreigner get a job in Germany after two years (Masters) of studying there?

German government gives 18 months of visa just because the country wants people to gain
education in their country and pass the knowledge through working in Germany. As far as
language is concern, they don’t see how many levels you know, they see, whether you speak
German better or not, Just like in India, if you work here, they don’t ask you like which level of
English do you speak.

German companies believes in skilled workers other than just workers. So if you really want to
get settle in the country, take two things in mind- work style & knowledge & German language
skills

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Disha Virk, Software Developer at Amdocs

Answered Jan 23, 2017

Originally Answered: Can a foreigner get a job in Germany after two years (Masters) of studying there?

Well, it's true unless you are really very lucky. Some german companies do prefer technical
expertise over language skills while for some, basic level of german proficiency is a mandate.
But honestly, over the time, you will actually feel the need to learn the language because it's
really hard to survive there on a long-term basis without knowing the Ps and Qs of German. And
at the end of the day, learning anything new always pays off!

Good luck!

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Abhishek Singh, M.E. (CUoAS, Germany)

Answered Apr 26, 2015

Originally Answered: How easy is it to get a job in Germany after an MS in Germany?

Well, it is difficult to get job in Germany being from third world country. I did my master of engineering
from Germany and searched job for somewhere around three months but no luck. I suppose it  requires
alot more time and dedication. Ofcourse, German language skill is must if not mandatory.

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Shiva M, studied at Master's Programs

Answered Jan 24, 2017

Originally Answered: Can a foreigner get a job in Germany after two years (Masters) of studying there?

Yes, but you should be able to get the proper skills. It's not like in India do mechanical get a job
in IT. Detailed analysis of skills is required to get job in Germany.

Two years is more than enough to learn German.

Jobs are available for all because German population is declining and they are dependent on
immigrants.

To get job in Germany build your skills to perfect as equal to German’s. Indians have advantage
of adopting to any conditions that is the biggest advantage.

Part time Java coder fetches 80 euros per hour.

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Mihir Soneji, works at AIESEC

Answered Nov 26, 2015

Originally Answered: How easy to find a job in Germany after getting Masters degree?

Why people are looking for EASY first??

No, it's not easy, first there is nothing like on-campus recruitment so it's not that you finish your studies
and a job with very nice package is waiting for you.
Few factors which affects to find good job
1) Field of your studies (2) Your German language proficiency (3) your scores during studies and (4)
masters thesis or the Internship what you have done.

Also a factor matters that how is the job market at that point of time for that particular field.

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Varun Jhaveri, studied at Arya Vidya Mandir

Answered Jul 30, 2014

Originally Answered: After studying for an MS in computer science in Germany what will be the situation
outside? Will I be able to get a job in Germany? Can any one provide the information about the
extension of a visa after doing an MS for job searching?

Germany is known for its marvel in engineering and automobile industry,

You can either get an H1b visa and get a good job in California or find something suitable there itself !!

ps : USA has many post grads with German degrees ...

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Aniruddha Banerjee, Jack of all trades, master of a few for 6 decades now!

Answered May 25, 2015

Originally Answered: How easy is it to get a job in Germany after an MS in Germany?

It completely depends on your specialization. Germany doesn't need generalists - they have plenty of
their own. It also helps if you speak fluent German. Look for jobs in startups and research oriented
organizations to start with.

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Mika Lambeck, former Inventor, at Least I Think I Am

Answered May 15, 2017

Originally Answered: How easy is it to get a job in Germany after an MS in Germany?

In my opinion, Germany is having too much Problems with the refugees now, and they need
years to integrate them. So if the refugees and immigrants stay, Germany would get lots of
workforce. But the highly educated may want to look better opportunities in other countries, Just
because of the language requirements. Im sorry I cant give better advice.

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Nothing is easy in Germany

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Toney Moses Rajan, Scientist at Ministry of Science and Technology, India (2014-present)

Answered Nov 22

I suggest people to read this .. for coming to facts realities.

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Vikrant Srivastava, M.Sc. at RWTH Aachen

Updated Dec 15

Thanks for the A2A Sai Prasanna.

I still am studying and hence haven't started with a job yet, so maybe I am not the best person to
answer this. But I do have a few friends who are working in Germany after having completed
their MS in Germany, and I shall try to share their experience.

The first thing to know, is that most of us who come here stay back in Germany. It's easier
getting a work visa and subsequently a citizenship in Germany (than it is in the USA, Australia,
UK and many other developed countries) for students who completed their M.Sc. in Germany,
and so staying in Germany (or going back to India) is usually more about choices than about
being forced to go back.

The first thing all Indian students do (or should do, ideally), is to learn the German language.
It's as essential for career growth as it is for day-to-day living. You may have heard stories about
people who live here without any knowledge of German, but that's the exception rather than the
rule. Don't try and bend the rules till you have some concrete work-experience.

People learn to become efficient, and learn to adhere to rules and regulations without being
forced to. The work-life is not as hectic as in India, but everyone is supposed to be very
competent at what he/she does.
Btw, I think the Germans are much more funny than they give themselves credit for. Simply
making such memes about themselves proves that they do have humour.
The standard of living is definitely high, and Germany being a economic heavy-weight in
Eurozone, as well as the engine of growth for mostly all of Europe, the job opportunities are
sufficient. But you still need to struggle and apply to tons of positions, and hence don't expect
to breeze through once you are in Germany- expect to learn harder than you ever have, and party
damn harder as well!

There are people from many different nationalities, and one really does not feel isolated.
Having said that, most people find and form close-knit groups within their own nationalities/race
and take care of each - other like a giant family. Though that comes with its own benefits, I'd
rather suggest that you maintain good friendship with the Germans, and you'll come to enjoy
Germany in a way that only they can show you how!

Everyone eventually falls in love with beer, and has one favorite pub/bar which (s)he swears to.
But most Indians also learn from the healthy German lifestyle and become much more health-
conscious than their Indian counterparts. Typically, most Indians lose weight (or atleast wish to)
after coming to Germany- just by following a healtheir lifestyle.

Even the formally most uninterested people becomes at least partly knowledgeable about
football, given that people talk about it everywhere. Stereotypes exist for a reason, people.

Indians roam around all of Europe. A lot. And many of them take a bit too many pictures. A lot.
And post it on Fb. A lot.

Very few Indians end up marrying people from other nationalities, but there are a few
exceptions.
In general, life is good. One gets to meet highly efficient people of very high calibre, from India
as well as other nations. Most Indians who have come this far are really driven and aspirational
people, and hence the level of motivation is high all around. Once again- people work hard, and
have enough time and resources to party harder.

And last but definitely not the least, there is beauty all around. The greenery, the summer, the
snow, the cities, the farms, the rivers, the children, and most importantly for us young guys-- the
girls (and vice-versa)!!

Edit- As asked by Ayush Sharma.

The most common problem is getting contacts for the first job. Once you have that, the rest you
can build based on your skills. But that first chance, that first opportunity, is necessary.

The language, again, is a big big issue for everyone. Try and learn as much as you can, and
getting a head-start when you are in India will definitely help.

People find problems adjusting to the culture sometimes, but that's not much of a problem.
Usually it just brings you closer to new experiences.

We miss homemade food, but usually you know someone nice enough to help you out, by
inviting you to dinner frequently.

Vegetarians have exceptionally high amount of problem with the food, as will anyone else not
willing to eat beef/pork. They are found everywhere in Germany.

Some suffered small racial attacks too, but hardly anything of consequence. The Germans are a
very sweet people, once they get to know you better!

Re-edit (Redit??) — I now am working in Germany, and have a chill life. I work 35 hours a
week, have awesome chill colleagues, earn more than enough to be happy, have a chill medical
insurance that allows me to get pointless treatments, and to top all that, I get to enjoy my
evenings like never before!

Of course, I just started out, hence there is still that pesky visa issue that foreigners in every
country face. But I am not really worried about it — I need to just work for 21 months (finding
jobs also gets substantially easier now that I have already had a little work-ex), and then I shall
have a permanent residence that would allow me to relax and not go to get my visa extended
every-so-often!

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Updated Jun 7, 2016

Well, immigration to Germany from India, completing the MS and then finding the job. I
don’t think any Indian can ask for much. However, even if you are graduated or post graduated
from India, you still stand a chance of Immigration to Germany to find jobs. The Germany of
course is an economic engine of Europe and the 4th largest economy in the world, whereas India
although, is a fast developing country, but still have got many miles to go to catch up with
Germany. So, one can obviously understand the difference in quality of life and living standards
among the two.

Career growth in Germany for an Indian

The career growth and high paying job prospects in Germany are incredibly high as compared to
India. If you are STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) graduate, you can
expect a salary of something around 35k-40k euros a year to start with, which is approximately
3-4 times higher than what you expect in India. So, you can imagine the kind of boost your
career can get in Germany.

Life in Germany
As just discussed, life in Germany is much better at the moment than India in terms of living
standards,fantastic infrastructure, transportation, cleanliness, quality of life, social
services, etc. Work life balance is well poised here in Germany compared to India with various
opportunities and time you get for recreation and leisure. This is the reason that people not only
immigrate to Germany for studies, but also to find jobs in their relevant occupations. However,
learning the basic Germany language always go to your advantage and works as a bonus point
for you.

Demand of STEM Graduates in Germany

As per the recent report Germany is in needs of STEM graduates. There is a skill shortage going
across its various industries and occupations. And they need the qualified and skilled, IT
specialists, Engineers, Scientists and Mathematicians, who can fill the skill gaps across their
several organizations. And the job seeker visa of Germany gives the chance to individuals
especially, from India, to come to Germany and search a relevant job in their profession in the
given time.

Indians Immigrate to Germany on Job Seeker Visa

The Demand of STEM graduates in Germany across its various industries allows even the
individuals graduated in India to immigrate to Germany on Job Seeker Visa and search the
suitable jobs for them. The German Job Seeker visa is valid for six months and once you find the
suitable job you can get the same converted to work permit in Germany. The skill shortage
makes the talented and skilled individuals to find jobs in Germany in the period of Six months.

Key Requirements of the German Job Seeker Visa

You can apply for job seeker visa if you have:

 Graduate or masters degree equivalent to German Degree.

 2-3 years experience in your field of education.
 Sufficient funds to support your stay in Germany (need to show the proof of funds)
 Other basic criteria of the visa

Get the complete details of Germany Job Seeker Visa here.

Get the key advice on Germany Immigration or to apply for Job Seeker Visa

If you want the further updates on Germany immigration or want to apply for Germany Job
Seeker Visa,you may call the registered migration experts for Germany at Visas Avenue
Immigration (www.visasavenue.com), 011-48447777 (Delhi), or 080-46668222 (Bangalore).
You may also sendyour queries with regard to Germany immigration on the email id-
[email protected].

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Hariharan Narayanan, His Excellency, Mein Führer

Answered Dec 29, 2014

I can share some of my brother's experience about how life in Germany will be (some very basic
differences between India and Germany)
1. Weekends in India(not all but a majority)

In Germany:

2. Scenery:
In India:

(Kerala esp)

In Germany:
3. Language:
In India:

(but you can survive if you know English reasonably)

In Germany:
4. During Diwali:
In India:

In Germany:

5.During Christmas:
In India:

In Germany:
6. Cleanliness:
In India:

(hoping for a positive change)

In Germany:

Hope these differences imply how an Indian's life will be changed in Germany.

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Karthik Venkatesh, Worked at Deutsches Zentrum für Luft-und Raumfahrt

Updated Apr 18, 2017

“Indians” are a very heterogenous group. There are extremes and there is a good chunk of the
population that can be called nominal.

The reason for such a diversity is that Indians coming from different regions of India behave
differently. So what may apply to one person may not necessarily apply to another.

Anyway, let’s get on with the answer for this question.

► Language

Indians who don’t speak or learn German will always complain that they are secluded or
ostracised from the mainstream society. They will put a racist label on the Germans. This is true
for every single Indian who doesn’t speak German.

One has to know that this is not a desirable life and one always has to learn German, no matter
how hard it is. Saying that Germans don’t speak English is like saying Delhi-ites don’t speak
Tamil or Marathi.

Thus, Indians who learn German will have a much better life compared to others. This helps
greatly in cultural integration. For one to obtain permanent residency in Germany, one has to
know German upto a professional level. Without it, life is incredibly difficult.

Also, knowing German is not a bonus requirement to get a job and stay in Germany, it is the
minimum requirement. There are no bonus points for it. But the lack of it will always work
against you.

I know so many Indians who have given up learning the language and those are the people I
don’t like to mingle with. I also know a lot of them who speak the language very well. There is a
huge difference between the two groups.

► Career
The growth in career really depends upon the level of knowledge of the German language and
personal skills. It is a meritocracy and the people with skills go up the ladder fast.

The salary after an MSc degree is usually between €40–50k per year. It gradually increases over
the years.

The work has pressure but it isn’t hectic. There is a very good work-life balance. In fact, some
companies have a legal limit of 10 hour maximum on a single day of work.

Usually, Indians (who speak German) have a very good career.

I won’t say life is all rosy. There is an initial struggle to get professional contacts and start your
career. No one can guarantee a job. It depends upon a lot of factors such as previous experience,
education, interests, language, effort, and most importantly - the field of profession. My
suggestion is to take that first opportunity, whatever it may be!

Once you have a job in Germany, things start to fall into place.

► Cultural integration

One will have to adapt to the German culture and know its nitty-gritties well. People follow rules
here not because the government wants them to, but because they think that following rules is
good for the entire society.

Having a mentality like “let’s break the rule” or “let’s circumvent this rule since no one is
watching” will always end up badly and would possibly lead to ostracism.

The common trend is that the people who speak German are always well integrated compared to
the non-speakers. The linguistic skills correlate to the effort put forth in cultural integration.

The original cultural background of the person adds to the diversity but, when in Germany, act
like a German. This would mean that one has to forego his/her cultural practices when in
contradiction to the German practice.

So what are the norms of the German culture?

 Irreligiosity
 Anti-nationalism / Anti-patriotism
 Tolerance and progessiveness
 Feminism (Gender Equality)
 Responsible drinking
 Following the rules to the dot
 Punctuality
 Honesty and straighforwardness
As the time goes by, people tend to change their personal beliefs & behaviour and adapt to the
above mentioned principles.

► Personal life

The dating culture in Germany is entirely different from that of India. People are very open and
straighforward in their dating lives. Sex is common. One would have had a lot of boyfriends or
girlfriends and also sexual partners. There is no shame in that.

However, that doesn’t make German women or German men ‘easy.’

People care about a person’s knowledge and how he/she carries himself/herself.

So, Indians who are forward thinking and who have a crisp personality are always successful in
dating. People who just expect Germans to fall in love with them just because they are Indian are
dangerously misguided.

Note: Seriously, I have seen questions on Quora like “Do German women like to marry Indian
men?” It doesn’t matter whether you are Indian or not! Your behaviour and your personality
matter the most.

I have seen many Indian-German couples but there aren’t a lot. Indians seem to be quite insular
in this case because 1) they feel comfortable with other Indians and/or 2) they’re unable to adapt
to the German way of life.

► Food

It is always an issue. German food is not well liked by Indians. I don’t blame them. However, the
good thing is that there are tons of Indian restaurants and the groceries are also widely available.
Larger cities have better Indian food.

One could miss out on many things from India but people surely enjoy the German life. It has a
very conducive environment for personal and professional growth.

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Deepak K, lived in Munich, Germany

Updated Feb 5

Having worked in many countries, including Germany US and Asian countries, sharing my
experience in general for Indians in Germany. It is not necessarily for German MS/MBA/PhD
holders but life in general for Indians.

Mainly it depends at what phase of life you’re in and what you’re expecting while here. For
students life is much simpler compared to families with kids. For working professionals it varies
on family composition and individual circumstance. Below are generic aspects you will
encounter. Wherever applicable I’ve put specifics for categories like students, working
bachelors/spinsters and families.

Language: As you might have already read in every thread on every site, knowing local language
is must if you intend to stay for longer duration. Ability and adaptability to learn new language
diminishes with age and experience. People in twenties find it easier than people in thirties. And
make no mistake, it is not easy language to master even for twenty odds to converse like native
German. You’ll manage basic conversation if you put in few months effort. If your work
schedule is packed, 8+ hours of work exhaust you, then attending language class is not easy.
Thinking that learning language makes you socially acceptable and culturally integrated is a big
mistake. It simply does not. You might hear that from fresh grads as their interaction circle is
limited to college friends, it is far from truth if you are looking for long family stay. A very
encouraging thing is most government officials you have to deal with for settling in do speak
English and are nice to you. Unfortunately that is were it ends.

Climate: This is one big disadvantage compared to India. Back home you can venture out no
matter rain or sun or chill; you just have to carry umbrella, sun glass/cap or a jacket. Life is
really tough in winters. Can’t go out, can’t visit any places, you’ll want to stay home no matter
how bored you are. Summers are much better, but unfortunately very few days. This is where
rest of European migrants are at advantage, for them its same.!

Food: If you cook and hardly depend on outside food then you’ll have no issues. Plenty of
Indian/Asian stores supply what you need. If you depend heavily on outside food will be major
issue. For non-vegetarians few more options than veggies but still difficult times.
Cost of living and lifestyle: If you compare the ratio of income vs. expenses cost of living pretty
high in Germany, especially in large cities. A average person with 5+ years experience earns 50–
60K, 10+ guy is in range 60K–75K, 15+ guys in 75K–110K. [This varies from place, domain,
individual but 90% fall under these ranges]. In the US salaries are much higher range, so are in
Thailand Canada and Singapore. Compared to India your monthly savings decrease as your
experience increases (yes, even after euro-to-INR conversion). Also taxes are very high
compared to other countries I worked. In short Germany is not pay master and don’t expect
significant savings. Your motto should be I earn, I spend, I enjoy lifestyle that I won’t get back
in home. Public transport, Infrastructure is amazing. Germans are efficient and they know the art
of doing things rightly. If you don’t enjoy life-style there and aiming for just saving, then you are
in wrong place. Work-life balance is great. You can visit any place of your interest in Europe
(On weather permitted days). Mind you, in summer tourist places cost a lot and transportation is
always costly. So plan accordingly well in advance.

Summary: In general, if you’re student sharing room with others or joined work force with less
than 5 years, it makes more sense for you to stay. If you’re married and your wife/husband
enjoys cooking and taking care of household chorus, you’ll have more pleasant life than India. If
you don’t fall in above categories, then stay will be difficult. If you have young kids life will be
more tough, getting doctor appointment, dealing with insurance etc requires German language
skills (Doctors do speak English) and alas no escape there.! If your children go to school then it
adds another layer of inconvenience, both while moving-in and moving-out of country. Sadly
I’ve witnessed many Indian families moving back getting disillusioned after many years of stay.
If you’re technology expert with 10+ years of experience, life is more rewarding in US/Canada
(even India) than here, so be extra careful. On the other hand, if you don’t want to stay in India
and not finding jobs in US/Canada then Germany is better option. Just a trend observation, more
and more single Indian women prefer to migrate here in last few years.

Disclaimer: This is based solely on my experience of working in more than 4 countries, each at
least a year. This is for guidance purpose only to help fellow Indian friends to make informed
decisions. I don’t expect every reader to concur. No bias towards anybody or anything.

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Carlos Paul, studied at Germany

Answered May 29, 2015

I am sorry. This is completely untrue.

After you graduate u have 18 months to find a job. I did my masters and am now finishing my PhD here
and am worried about staying on. You can search for job but you have to show 670 euros in the bank
per month, thatis around 8,000 euros. For anyone that is an huge amount.
After you get a job the emigration dept should agree that it fits your qualifications. That depends on the
individual officer. According to official statistics two out of three students return even if they wish to
stay. You can find the relevant research and articles on the net. If you want the blue card ur annual
salary must be around 50,000 and it is almost impossible to get that kind of a job.
Don t make the mistake of coming to Germany if you want to stay on. Come only if u want to go back to
ur home country.

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Rahul Malhotra, Content Marketer at Gostudyfree Calculus

Answered Jul 10, 2017

Minimum salary Euro 40,000 (approx Rs. 30 Lacs)

Blue card options

Opportunity to invite wife to live with you

Schengan visa for visiting Europe

Vacancies for 10 Lac Engineers IT professionals in Germany

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Raj Malhotra, works at भ्रष्टाचार के खिलाफ भारत

Answered Nov 25, 2015

It is not much different than any other phoren country. But I would still say that if you want to celebrate
every Indian festival, want to see enough Indian roads then USA, UK, Australia and Singapore is a much
better place.
Learning german is extra hassle.

Positive part is that you get to travel to many European countries and its very very beautiful. US comes
nowhere close to it.
I don't know the way to put it but in germany you will find all Indians as middle class. And thats the way
they live it and like it.

How is the life of Indian students in Germany?

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Answered Aug 23, 2016

Study in Germany

The majority of institutions for higher education in Germany are governed and funded by the
federal government and since Germany is a federal state, every federation approaches the matter
autonomously. Additionally, there are a number of colleges that are semi-dependent and mostly
financed by Protestant and Catholic Churches. The minor rest comprises of private universities,
around 80 in the whole country that still convey the official curricula. German education system
comprises of:

Universities in Germany – They are the perfect choice for students planning to study in
Germany who are scientifically-oriented as in medicine, technology or education among many
other courses.

Universities of applied sciences in Germany – For those who wish to practice while they
preach this is the ideal choice. The degree programmes generally include internships practical
module. The course of education prepares the student for the demands of a professional life.

Colleges of art, film and music in Germany - Colleges of modern media train students to
become directors, camera operators, screenwriters, technicians and producers for film and
television. Potential candidates must possess a high degree of artistic talent which they are asked
to demonstrate in an aptitude test. Therefore, there are usually special admission requirements.

Cost of living in Germany

Life in Germany is rather affordable for a student. Firstly and most importantly the German
education system provides almost free education, concerning the public domain, where the
majority of the Universities don’t require tuition fees for either the natives or the international
students. Whereas, the tuition fees at the private Universities can go up to 20000 Euros yearly.
What one is obliged to pay is the semester contribution (as they call it) around 100-150 Euros
depending on the federation, the administrative fee from 50-70 Euros, the residency permit and
the visa expenses depending from the students’ nationality and the health insurance which is a
must. In Germany you can choose between public and private health insurance however the
public offer is by far more affordable. No University will ever accept you without the health
insurance papers submitted. The beauty remains in the fact that once you’ve paid the semester
contribution it includes free public transport around the city you live in.

Student life in Germany varies from city to city and of course the price ranges depending on
the certain neighborhood. Students usually go for University residencies and dorms which are
safe and affordable, however for such, one has to book months in advance and there is no
concept of privacy. Living in Germany on your own is great yet expensive. Depending on the
city in which you live, you will likely pay between 185 and 345 Euros per month for
accommodation. The rental prices in some large cities like Hamburg, Munich, Cologne or
Frankfurt am Main are much higher in comparison. The aforementioned amount goes for
students that tend to share an apartment with roommates, which clearly helps your budget. Of
course, it’s always better if you have native roommates to help you accommodate in the new
area, introduce you to other people and coexist. Strangers are always into strangers, wanting to
know all about their backgrounds and life story. Berlin is the cheapest and the craziest German
city to live in. For those who want an adventure out of the year abroad more than just a degree,
Berlin is their final destination.

Cheap eats are to be found in every corner of every city offering to-go meals starting from 4
Euros. Student Mensa is far from bad, yet one needs some colours in their daily menu. Germany
is famous for its beer and its sausages; it’s cheap, it’s tasty and will keep you running on fuel.
However, since the German cuisine has gone through essential changes in all these years of
international influence, it’s likely to find your favorite hometown dish in your new German
neighborhood. Every metropolis has Italian, Asian, French, Spanish, Russian Restaurants or else,
while the Turks have their own quarters. Students are eligible for numerous price concessions.
With your student ID, you can receive concessions on tickets and entrance fees to theaters, opera
houses, cinemas, museums, public swimming pools and other cultural venues.

Job Opportunities in Germany

In order to put some money on the side, many students combine their studies with a part time job
in Germany, or a weekend job if possible. Germans have no policy against it as long as it doesn’t
interfere with the studies which should always be a priority. Part-time jobs and internships offer
a perfect opportunity to make professional contacts and earn some extra money. However these
mini jobs as they call them pay only 400 Euros per month, the standard fee that someone earns
without having to pay any taxes. Also, if you are a citizen of no European Union country then the
hours you are allowed to work while study in Germany are restricted. Waiting tables at cafés or
pubs is traditionally popular among students, as well. Other students find work at copy shops,
assist visitors at trade fairs, drive delivery trucks, work as cycle couriers, cleaning staff, etc.
Working at the University is also a beneficial alternative since you get to make your own
schedule without compromising your classes.
Student life in Germany

Life in Germany for students, intrigued about all and everything, will take their breath away.
There’s a piece for everyone, the fun lovers, the hikers, the explorers and the solitarians. Every
neighborhood in every city has a different vibe; some are more secluded and quiet while others
are tremendously loud and vivid. Cafes of all kinds, whether they are hippy or classy,
fashionable, trendy, contemporary or traditional Germany offers a cosmopolitan cocktail for
those who dare. Nightlife is Berlins’ most precious gem yet other cities aren’t far behind. Some
of the worlds’ famous clubs like Bergheim or Cocoon belong to Germans. Germans however, are
more into private indoor parties where you drink wine and chat about the zeitgeist, especially
during the vigorous winter times. On the other hand, they love their daily outdoor activities to
keep fit and fine. All the grandiose parks and gardens give you a hint of the sanctity of the green
spaces in this country. Traveling around the country will give you a true feel of what Germany is
all about. The fairy-tale small towns with ancient castles and traditional lifestyle are a great
example of how life in Germany used to be without all the technological advances. They are the
perfect get-away from all the urban noise and dynamics. Another true advantage to be living in
this country is their excellent public transport, efficient, safe and fast. Students can purchase 50
euro cards as a valid pass to travel by buses, subways and trams.

German Culture

It’s no secret that Germans are notorious for being too bureaucratic and formal even in their daily
lives. Prior research about the dos and don't s, the expected behavior among the natives will be
very helpful. When entering a store, for example, one is not likely to be noticed, unless one
announces oneself forcefully by saying, “guten Tag” (literally, "good day") or "hello." Hugging
isn’t particularly something they are fond of, especially not in the beginning of the relationship,
work colleagues, school friends or random acquaintances. Their etiquette concerning punctuality
is something you should consider since they really hate people who are late, so no consideration
there I guess. Germans do work really hard therefore the Sundays silence is sacred apropos, no
Saturday after parties no nosy neighbors.

The honesty is admirable; they say everything to your face. In the beginning this might bother
you however one gets used to it and returns the favor. Germans, once you get to know them, are
people you want to keep close forever.

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Anne Clair, works at Join In Campus

Answered Jan 30

Hello,

General Life as a student in Germany - For probably the first time, it is ideal inside the heart of
Europe so you can encounter odds and ends of each neighboring society very much incorporated
in the distinctive German locales. While living in Germany, there are open doors for learning and
research, offered by various very positioned German Universities in the worldwide area, because
of a remarkable reputation with respect to their openness, straightforwardness, imaginative
strategies and the nature of the studies.

Living in Germany on your own is great, but expensive. Depending on the city in which you
live.Cheap eateries are to be found every corner of every city offering to-go meals. Every
metropolis has Italian, Asian, French, Spanish, Russian restaurants or else, while the Turks have
their own quarters. Students are eligible for numerous price concessions. With your student ID,
you can receive concessions on tickets and entrance fees to theaters, opera houses, cinemas,
museums, public swimming pools and other cultural venues.

The most ideal approach to demonstrate that is the immense number of international students,
around 250,000, who are a part of these colleges as of now. Germany is an open book for the
individuals who know how to peruse.

Cost of Living - The costs for nourishment, accommodation, clothes, social occasions, and so
forth are essentially in accordance with the EU average. You will require around 800 euros a
month to cover your everyday costs. The biggest cost is your month to month rent.Usually, as
per university norms, a student would not be allowed to work for more than 20 hours in a week
during term.

For more info. click here

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Naveen Kumar Sharma, lives in Germany (2017-present)

Updated Nov 5

Life of an Indian student is dramatically different in Germany!

Be it food, travel, commutation, weather etc. I have studied engineering and management in
India and now pursuing my MSc in Management at EBS Business School. To know in detail the
differences and to get the tips on various things which I learned after many months read my blog:
Things One Should Know Before Moving For Studies In Germany here:

Things One Should Know before Moving to Germany for Studies

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Saurabh Chhabra, Digital Marketer- SEO, SMO Blogger

Answered Jun 8, 2016

Originally Answered: How is life of an Indian Student in Germany?

Student Life in Germany- Germany is one of the top destinations in Europe for international
students. It has a great educational infrastructure along with beautiful cities bustling with
activity. There are thousands of courses on a diverse range of subjects to choose from and the
educational fees are much less. The students also have a good chance for getting into one of the
many scholarship programs that are available. Due to these reasons, a large number of students
in Germany come from foreign countries.

Student Life in Germany:

Language

The life of a student in Germany is quite exciting and happening. It is best if one can master the
German language as the people of Germany appreciate the effort of any foreigner who can speak
German. Even if one’s grasp of German is not good enough, it is not an issue as English is also a
popular language and many courses are being offered in English as well. Germany is also one of
the economically strong countries in Europe and the student can get plenty of future
opportunities in this land.

Environment

The cities in Germany are very cosmopolitan and very safe for international students. Most cities
are rich in their culture and frequent cultural events take place which any student can enjoy.
Apart from campus life, the night life is also quite vibrant in German cities and there are a lot
happening places to eat, drink and enjoy the time. These places offer plenty of scope to socialize
and make friends and getting to imbibe the German culture. The youth of Germany are quite
friendly and casual in approach so it is very easy for an international student to blend into the
community.

Financial Aspects

The average expense of a student involving the basic expenses is not high in Germany. Getting a
student’s card is very important as that will enable the student to get discounts in various areas.
The transportation options available in Germany are plenty so there will be no problem moving
around the country. The Government has also decided to make health insurance compulsory for
all students and so that has to be arranged accordingly.

Traveling

Apart from studies there are plenty of activities that a student can enjoy in Germany. The country
has numerous places where one can travel and get involved into various activities like hiking,
cycling, canoeing etc. Travelling to famous German cities like Berlin, Munich, Nuremberg,
Hamburg etc. can be a great experience as each city has its unique sight and sound. The
countryside also offers unique places for travelling including beaches, riverside and mountain
snow. It is also possible to travel to the neighboring countries like Netherlands, Austria, Poland
and others.

Other Activities

Apart from sights, German drinks and food is also a major attraction. Though Germany is
famous for its beer, the various dishes of German flavor can stimulate the taste buds of any one.
There are also plenty of other activities that a student can get involved into. There is always the
scope of doing some community work like teaching younger students. Helping senior citizens in
any old age home and helping handicapped people with various activities are some other options
of getting involved in social work.

Overall, Germany offers a student, a rich and vibrant lifestyle which can be immensely beneficial
to enrich his/her life. So a student can confidently take up any opportunity for studying in
Germany.

You May Also Like: 10 Benefits of Studying in Germany | Top Reasons to Choose Germany for
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Mega Immigration Consultants, Having 10+ Years Experience In Overseas Education

Answered Sep 5, 2016

German University provides wide range of courses like law, dentistry, engineering, business
administration etc. And students get greater exposure to industry for most of the engineering and
technological fields like civil, automobile etc. Most of these courses are free for everybody
taking admission in Under-graduate program. On the other hand some colleges charge very low
tuition fees for masters. The education being provided at German universities are based on latest
and advance technology. Besides this students can work part time while studying to cover their
living expenses. In addition to this there are also many scholarship programs. In Germany,
Bachelor’s and Master’s are generally without tuition fee and if any then it can be financed by
the scholarship programs. Students have lots of research opportunities while they are studying
and professors of German universities are highly qualified and they emphasize more on practical
knowledge than theoretical knowledge. Most of the German universities have tie-up with many
multinational companies which provide internships to the student for better career opportunities.
So after the completion of degree, a student is provided with many career opportunities. A
student gets 18 months after graduation to find a job. Once you get a job, you get the necessary
work permit relatively easily as compared to other countries. Berlin which is regarded as the hub
of start-ups , there are so many automobile companies, IT consultancies, tech companies,
research institutes and almost every job opportunity for every student.

With so many advantages an international student studying in Germany is much satisfied then
the student studying in any other country. German degrees are recognized all around the world.
An Indian student holding a German degree is given much importance by the employer also. So
concluding this, Mega Immigration always advice Indian students, who are planning to study
abroad for higher education, must choose Germany first than any other country.

Source : How satisfying is it for an Indian to study In Germany?

Read study in Germany for Indian students blog for more information about Germany study visa,
Requirements, Experience, Living etc.

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Vandana Munshi, Studied in details about abroad education and immigration.

Answered Sep 7, 2016

IN GENERAL;

Germany is called the ‘Land of Ideas’, and it thrives on the innovative research options that it
offers to students and faculty members from across the world. Over the years, Germany has seen
an increase in the number of international students. And with the German population crisis,
immigration is a major source of getting more skilled personnel in the country.

As per the data for the academic year 2013-2014, about 10,000 students from India had taken
admissions to various courses in Germany for pursuing higher studies and exploring research
opportunities. The number has only increased since then; in fact in the last five years, the intake
of Indian students in German universities has doubled. In turn, an increased number of German
students have also been applying to summer schools in India to pursue courses in South Asian
Studies and Sociology.

**The maximum number of international students come from China. In the last academic year,
about 30,000 students from China took admission in Germany. Being a close neighbour of
China, India has a huge potential for international admissions in Germany.

Germany is slowly advancing towards becoming a hub for scientific research, which is why a
majority of international students apply for post-graduate courses or pursue research fellowships
there in the field of science and technology.

STUDENT LIFE;

Student life in Germany varies from city to city and of course the price ranges depending on the
certain neighborhood. Students usually go for University residencies and dorms which are safe
and affordable, however for such, one has to book months in advance and there is no concept of
privacy. Living inGermany on your own is great yet expensive. Depending on the city in which
you live, you will likely pay between 200 and 350 Euros per month for accommodation. The
rental prices in some large cities like Hamburg, Munich, Cologne or Frankfurt am Main are
much higher in comparison. The aforementioned amount goes for students that tend to share an
apartment with roommates, which clearly helps your budget. Of course, it’s always better if you
have native roommates to help you accommodate in the new area, introduce you to other people
and coexist. Strangers are always into strangers, wanting to know all about their backgrounds
and life story. Berlin is the cheapest and the craziest German city to live in. For those who want
an adventure out of the year abroad more than just a degree, Berlin is their final destination.

Cheap eats are to be found in every corner of every city offering to-go meals starting from 4
Euros. Student Mensa is far from bad, yet one needs some colours in their daily menu. Germany
is famous for its beer and its sausages; it’s cheap, it’s tasty and will keep you running on fuel.
However, since the German cuisine has gone through essential changes in all these years of
international influence, it’s likely to find your favorite hometown dish in your new German
neighborhood. Every metropolis has Italian, Asian, French, Spanish, Russian Restaurants or else,
while the Turks have their own quarters. Students are eligible for numerous price concessions.
With your student ID, you can receive concessions on tickets and entrance fees to theatres, opera
houses, cinemas, museums, public swimming pools and other cultural venues.
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Answered Mar 10, 2015

Life is Good, people are friendly(most of times) and helpful, but i have a request for you, please make
sure your program is good or at-least you have great interest in the field of study, than your student life
will be great. Knowing German is very very very important(even if your course is in English), German
culture is different from ours, its more straight forward and a slight sense of superiority exist in some
specially when they are dealing people from our subcontinent, so be ready for that and take it in a
constructive manner. But i would again stress that if you have an admit from US please consider it over
Germany...Thats because germany is not really an immigrant country and United States is an immigrant
country, so not only it is easy for Indians to get acclimatize/and accepted in USA  it is also alot easier for
Indian students to get a decent career in US as compared to Germany(this is just my personal opinion)...

Small example
>> In Germany you are eligible to get a job for a particular role only after it is made sure that there is no
German that can fulfill that role, you will not face this issue in USA....

If your reason of moving to Deutschland is one of these than i would seriously recommend you to stay
back or look for some other option....

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Chetna Vasishth

Answered May 13, 2017

Watch the following video chat with the head of DAAD India who talks about how to study in
Germany, options to study in Germany for Indians, the German education system also top 5
reasons of why study in Germany, details of a PhD in Germany, how to apply for a PhD,
eligibility for MSc in Germany, Engineering in Germany. She also talks about the university
ranking system in Germany and which is the best university, how to apply for scholarships and
much more.

I hope after watching this video your all problems will be resolve.

Watch video as follow:

Part 1

Part 2

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Shashi Kiran, MSc graduate in Germany

Answered Feb 13, 2017

I believe the following answer will also answer this question:

Shashi Kiran's answer to How is life as a foreigner student in Germany?

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Things One Should Know Before Moving to Germany for

Studies Apr 16, 2017 Naveen kumar Sharma Country, Travel Germany, How
to adapt in Germany, Indian student in Germany, student life, Student life in
Germany, Things to know as a student in Germany 24

The thought of traveling out of your country for the first time can be very daunting and
exhilarating at the same time because you never know how will the stay going to be.

I came to Germany in January 2017, and this was the first time I was traveling out of my home
country, India. Even though I was aware of the fact that life is going to be very different from
India, but after coming to Germany, I realized how difficult even it was to imagine what fortune
has kept for me here. Let me tell you, life is indeed very different from India (As I am from India
I would be comparing fundamentally from that perspective, but there are many things which
would be useful to people from other parts of the world). Below are various mentioned points
where one can apparently notice the difference:
1.Food:“There is no love sincerer than the love of food,”  said George Bernard Shaw.

If there is one thing which is certain after coming to Germany, that is no matter what you do, but

you will be eating for sure

But guess what? You will not be getting the same food as you get in your home country, and this
alone has the potential to make your transition terrible.

Even though it is common for students or adults to cook by themselves in western countries
but in many countries, people use maid service for cooking, or they eat in mess/canteens.

But the scenario is dramatically different Germany because even if you have mess either you
won’t find food of your choice, or it would be expensive. You may discover Subway,
McDonald’s, Burger King, Starbuck’s, KFC, Pizza Hut, etc. but that would burn a hole in your
pocket.

So, does this mean one would die out of hunger? No, absolutely not. For example, what most
Indian students do is they bring spices from India or buy from the Indian store (generally found
in the major cities) and cook by themselves because even though you may have “Mensa (Mess)”
in your university but as I said it would not satisfy your taste buds.

Tips: Learn cooking before coming to Germany because that would be your best skill to survive.

2.Laundry: You will have a washing machine in your flat or public washing machine in some
cases. Charges for washing the clothes vary depending on whether you are using the public
washing machine or you have one in the flat.

3.Cleaning: It is essential to keep your room and common area clean. If your room is found to
be dirty after you move out the owner is allowed to deduct some/full amount of your deposit.

If you are not used to garbage segregation be prepared to for it. In Germany, glass, plastic,
organic waste has different thrash bin.

4.Commutation: Germany is very well connected. Public transport is a way of life, and

therefore you don’t have to worry much about it. One important thing to note is the frequency of
buses and trains vary on the weekends.

Tips: Know about the apps which can tell you about the timing of the buses and trains like DB
navigator, RMV, etc. Also, you can read a book or listen to an audio dictionary while
commuting. The good part is you will not have much noise around, so, you can do your job
peacefully.
5.Weather:  It is the scariest part. If you come in winter, you will experience the freezing
coldness. Less number of sunshine hours. Summer is relatively safe as you do not need to load
yourself with loads of clothes but many a time temperature reaches to 35-36 degree Celsius
which may be a problem without fans or air conditioners (it is rare to have fan or AC in
Germany).

Tips: Bring sufficient winter clothes if you don’t want to fall ill as soon as you come. Get right
winter clothes from a good brand (as they have temperature tested clothes). I bought from
Decathlon, but you can choose any name you like.

6.SIM cards: It is challenging to decide which one to buy because you will get different SIM
cards on their own merits and demerits. But, generally if you want to have it for an official
purpose (i.e., for internship/interview calls) O2 or Vodafone is recommendable, but for
international calls, Lebara is a good choice. Apart from the mentioned brands, you can find
Rewe, Aldi, etc.

Tips: Mostly you should prefer WhatsApp call or skype but should have any one of the
mentioned cards for urgent calls.

7.Groceries: There are a good number of supermarkets which you might not have heard back in
India like REWE, ALDI, EDEKA, NETTO, PENNY, etc. You can buy your day to day stuff
from these supermarkets.

Tips: First visit these stores and compare the prices of the items before buying because there is a
considerable difference in the prices of the products in different supermarkets as there is no
concept of maximum retail price (MRP) in Germany. Aldi and Penny are considered to be the
most cost-effective.

8. Language: so far the most crucial point, I guess. Yes, I am saying this because even though, if
your course is in English but to get into the job market without German fluency, is indomitable.
Knowledge of German language not only helps you to get a job but also it increases your
chances drastically to gel up with the people here. Germans know that German is a tough
language to learn therefore they appreciate if some take the pain to learn the language.

Tips: Try to learn at least basics of German before you arrive here. And keep on learning as
much as possible in due course of time.

9. Economical Clothing Store: It is not hard to find big fashion brands in any of the city center
in Germany, but as a student, many of us try to find that one economic store where we can get
clothes, shoes, etc. for different seasons. And if you are in search of one, it is Primark. Primark
is a fashion chain where you can find clothes and accessories for people of different ages.

Based on my personal experience I think its products are economical as well as good in quality.
These are some of the things which I noticed based on my personal experiences so far, I will
keep updating the list as and when I find something new. Do share your views in the comment
section if you feel something is missing on the list.