Ideal Response 80 100 120
Ideal Response 80 100 120
Ideal Response 80 100 120
The Ideal Response is a wall mounted, fanned flue combination boiler which
serves a home's central heating system and delivers hot water on demand.
It has been designed to be 'friendly' to the user, installer and service engineer.
The Response has been designed and developed with reliability as the
number one priority. But even the finest engineered product may develop a
fault at some stage in its lifetime. To support the Response we've created
the Ideal Care Guarantee which sets out our target to repair any fault next
day.
CAUTION. To avoid the possibility of injury during the installation, servicing or cleaning of this
appliance, care should be taken when handling edges of sheet steel components.
* The value is used in the UK Government's Standard Assessment Procedure (SAP) for energy rating of dwellings.
The test data from which it has been calculated have been certified by notified body.
Extension Ducts - Fitting ............................................. 25 A system bypass is only required when TRV's are fitted to all
radiators (see Frame 5).
Fault Finding ................................................................. 49
Boilers are supplied fully assembled and, being a 'tube-within-
Flow Wiring Diagram ................................................... 28 tube' design, require no diverter valve or domestic hot water calorifier.
Flue Fitting A circulating pump, pressure gauge, safety valve and expansion
Rear outlet .............................................................. 15 vessels for both central heating (CH) and domestic hot water (DHW)
Side outlet .............................................................. 20 are provided.
Flue Installation Requirements ..................................... 8 The CH flow temperature is controlled by an electronic thermostat.
In DHW mode the boiler modulates to sustain a nominal adjustable
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Gas Safety Regulations ................................................. 7 water flow temperature of 60 C.
Gas Supply Requirements ............................................ 8 The boiler casing is of white painted mild steel with a drop-down
controls access door.
Initial Lighting ............................................................... 31
The boiler temperature control is located behind the controls access
Installation ................................................................... 12
door.
Mandatory Requirements ............................................. 7
The heat exchanger is made of copper and cast iron.
Sealed System Requirements ...................................... 9
The system pipework must include drain cocks in appropriate
Servicing ...................................................................... 33 places. Pipework may be taken downwards or upwards behind
the boiler (using the stand-off channels).
Short List of Parts ....................................................... 60
Terminal Guards ............................................................ 8 OPTIONAL EXTRA KITS
Thermostatic Radiator valves ...................................... 9 Programmer Kit - fits neatly within the casing. Separate fitting
instructions are included with the kit.
Unpacking .................................................................... 13 Note. If using an alternative programmer read Frame 42 first.
Water and Systems ...................................................... 8 Extension Ducts
Roof Flue kit
Water Connections ...................................................... 6 o
90 Elbow kit
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Water Treatment ........................................................... 9 45 Elbow kit
Powered Vertical Flue kit
Wiring Diagrams .......................................................... 28
Note. When ordering Pack H or Pack K flue adaptor must
be used.
17.
The following minimum clearances must be
maintained for operation and servicing.
Additional space will be required for installation,
depending upon site conditions.
Side and Rear Flue
a. Provided that the flue hole is cut accurately,
e.g. with a core drill, the flue can be installed
from inside the building where wall
thicknesses do not exceed 600mm (24").
Where the space into which the boiler is
going to be installed is less than the length
of flue required the flue must be fitted from
the outside.
Installation from inside ONLY
b. If a core boring tool is to be used inside the
building the space in which the boiler is to
be installed must be at least wide enough to
accommodate the tool.
Front clearance
The minimum front clearance when built in to a
cupboard is 5mm (1/4") from the cupboard door
but 450mm (17 3/4") overall clearance is still
required, with the cupboard door open, to allow
for servicing. See Table 4.
CLEARANCES
Per side 5 mm
Top 160 mm (depth of elbow and lift
Front 450 mm clear of spigot space, Dimension y
Bottom 150 mm internal wall ring plate)
Boiler only with stand-
off brackets
* Bottom clearance 139mm 169mm
Bottom clearance after installation can be
(5 (7/16") (6 5/8")
reduced to 10mm in an adequately ventilated
enclosed cupboard. However, 150 mm must
be available for servicing. Distance X is 20mm for DHW pipes and safety valve outlet.
Distance X is 23.5mm for CH pipes and gas inlet.
IMPORTANT.
Water Flow Rate and Pressure Loss
It is therefore strongly recommended that, when
Response Response
thermostatic radiator valves are used, the space heating
80 100/120
temperature control over a living/dining area or a hallway,
having a heat requirement of at least 10% of the boiler Max CH Output kW 17.6 23.4
output, is achieved using a room thermostat whilst other (Btu/h) (60 000) (80 000)
rooms are individually controlled by thermostatic radiator
valves. Water flow rate l/sec 0.382 0.508
(gal/min) (5.04) (6.7)
However, if thermostatic radiator valves are fitted to all
radiators then a bypass MUST be fitted. This should Temperature
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C 11 11
consist of 22mm (3/4") pipe positioned as far from the differential
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( F) (20) (20)
boiler as possible and incorporating a balancing valve
which cannot be adjusted by the householder. Head available for m.w.g. 2.75 2.5
For adjustment refer to Frame 45. system pump, pos.3 (ft.w.g.) (9.0) (8.0)
LEGEND
A. Gas injection pipe.
11. Boiler overheat t'stat. 25. DHW Flow switch. 39. DHW Lower hot pipe
B. Pressure gauge sub assy. assy.
12. Water pressure switch. 26. Automatic air vent.
C. Flue outlet elbow 40. Boiler front panel.
13. DHW O/heat t'stat. 27. Heat exchanger.
D. Wall mounting plate 41. Sealing panel
14. DHW sensor. 28. Pressure sensing pip
1. Main burner 44. Tank cover assy
15. Potentiometer harness. 30. EMC filter.
2. Main burner injector 45. Controls door assy.
16. Potentiometer knob 32. CH Return pipe assy.
3. Gas valve 59. Turret clamp.
17. Pressure gauge. 33. Pump pipe assy.
4. Flame sensing electrode 67. Transformer.
19. Fan assembly. 34. CH Lower flow pipe assy.
5. Ignition electrode
21. Pressure relief valve. 35. CH Upper flow pipe assy.
7. PCB 41
22. DHW expansion vessel 36. DHW Upper cold pipe assy.
8. PCB 40
23. CH expansion vessel 37. DHW Upper hot pipe assy.
9. PCB 8: Fan speed
24. Pump. 38. DHW Lower cold pipe assy.
controller.
INSTALLATION
The boiler is supplied fully assembled in one Pack A, together with a standard
flue assembly for lengths up to 600mm, rear or side flue outlet, in Pack B.
Unpack and check the contents.
Hardware Pack
Pack A Contents
! The boiler. ! M6 x 16 Pp. Hd. screw - 4 off.
! These Installation & Servicing Instructions. ! 1/2" x 15mm copper connector - 1 off.
! The User's Instructions.
! No.14 x 2" slotted Rd. Hd. screw - 6 off.
! Wall mounting template.
! Wall mounting frame. ! Wall plug (brown) - 6 off.
! 1 pair stand-off channels (optional use). ! 1/2" Nut - 2 off.
! Flue turret.
! M28 Nut - 2 off.
! Clamping and sealing ring.
! Mains connector assy. ! 22mm pipe connector - 2 off.
! Hardware Pack. ! 15mm pipe connector - 2 off.
! Coupling Hardware Pack.
! 22mm x 15mm reducing coupling - 1 off.
! Pressure relief valve drain pipe - 1 off.
! Pressure relief valve nut - 1off.
! Gas pipe assy. - 1 off.
! 22mm olive - 2 off.
! 15mm olive - 3 off.
! 26mm Sealing washer - 3 off.
! 12mm Sealing washer - 3 off.
Pack B Contents
! Terminal grille assembly
! No.8 x 8mm self tapping screw - 3 off
! No.10 x 2" slotted Rd. Hd. screw - 4 off
! Flue support cutting aid - 1 off
! Wall plugs - 4 off
! Terminal wall plate - 1 off
USE A MAXIMUM OF 3 EXTENSION DUCTS Calculate the total length of flue by the following:
ONLY FOR THE 80 AND A MAXIMUM OF 4 Rear flue length = Dim. W + 79mm (3 1/8")
EXTENSION DUCTS FOR THE 100 AND 120. Rear flue length with stand-off channels = Dim. W + 109mm (4 3/8")
o RHS flue length = Dim. R + 220mm (8 5/8")
When using 90 elbow kits, each elbow is
equivalent to 1 metre flue length. LHS flue length = Dim. L + 96mm (3 3/4")
Note.
These figures include the length of flue entering the flue turret
socket.
LEGEND
1. Terminal.
2. Weather seal.
3. Duct assembly.
4. Sealing ring.
5. Clamping ring.
6. No.8 x 8 self tapping screw.
7. Flue turret.
8. M5 x 10 pozi Hex screw.
9. Turret clamp.
1. Cut the flue hole (preferably with a 5" core boring tool),
ensuring that the hole is square to the wall.
! Put the screws into the wall plugs and leave 10mm proud
or
! Put the screws into the wall plugs and leave 10mm proud.
! Hang the channels and frame onto the screws and tighten
up.
Note. If the clearances above and below the boiler are less
than the length of the pipes it will be necessary to position the
REAR FLUE OUTLET
Make service water, gas & electrical connections. Go to Frames 35, 36 & 39 then return to Frame
15.
For flue lengths greater than 600mm (23 5/8") refer to Frames 30 to 32 -
IMPORTANT
To facilitate turret fixing or removal do NOT make good the wall.
2. Pass the cut flue through the prepared hole, ensuring that the
groove is uppermost.
3. Pull the flue back to compress the rubber seal and fix in place
with the clamping/sealing rings.
a. When the wall is more than 24" thick (to support the
flue weight and prevent movement).
or
or
Note.
When marking off the flue allow for the
stand-off channels if using them. Read
the notes on the template.
Note. If the terminal is to be sited within 25-40mm of a corner or vertical pipe (refer to
Table 3) then the hole MUST be accurately cut and the rubber weather seal trimmed
around the groove provided. (The terminal wall plate need not be fitted.)
or
Make service water, gas & electrical connections. Go to Frames 35, 36 & 39 then return to Frame
15.
or
b. Use stand-off channels
(To allow pipework to be taken upwards).
! Insert the wall plugs.
! Put the screws into the wall plugs and leave 10mm
proud.
! Fasten each channel to the frame with the 6mm
screws provided.
! Hang channels and frame onto the screws and
tighten up.
Note. If the clearances above and below the boiler are less
than the length of the pipes it will be necessary to position
the pipes behind the wall mounting plate BEFORE the
plate is screwed to the wall.
Make service water, gas & electrical connections. Go to Frames 35, 36 & 39 then return to Frame
15.
For flue lengths greater than 600mm refer to Frames 30 to 32 - Flue Extension
Ducts
3. Pull the flue back to compress the rubber seal and fix
in place with the clamping/sealing rings.
Note.
To facilitate turret fixing or removal do NOT make good the
wall.
1. Mate the turret to the flue. 3. Drill a 3.2mm hole through the flue via the hole already
present in the turret. Secure the turret to the flue, using
2. Secure the flue turret on top of the boiler by inserting the the self tapping screw provided.
open ends of the turret clamp under the 2 studs and
fixing it in the middle with the single M5 x 10mm pozi-hex
screw provided.
• For standard
installations use the
short wood screw.
a. When the wall is more than 24" thick (to support the flue
weight and prevent movement).
or
or
c. When the wall face is rough and the rubber seal on its
own would be ineffective.
INSTALLATION
30 FLUE EXTENSION DUCT PACK D CONTENTS
Use a maximum of 3 extension ducts only for the 80 and a maximum of 4 extension
ducts for the 100 and 120.
Note.
To facilitate turret fixing or removal do
NOT make good the wall.
34 SERVICE CONNECTIONS
General Notes
1. As detailed in Frames 14 and 23/24 'Fitting the Wall 2. Horizontal connecting pipes, where used, must be run
Mounting Frame', top entry pipework is an option, as well outside the limits of the boiler casing.
as mounting from the bottom or through the wall.
INSTALLATION
For central heating loads greater than 60 000 BTU's the
Refer to General Note, Frame 34, for guidance. flow and return circuits should be increase to 28mm pipe
Note. Do not subject any of the isolating valves to heat as the diameter immediately upon leaving the boiler with the
seals may be damaged . fitting supplied.
1b. Solder the 1/2" connector and reducing coupling to the preformed A working gas pressure of 20mbar (8" w.g.) must be available at
pipe provided. the boiler inlet with the boiler firing at full DHW output.
IMPORTANT. Ensure the gas supply pipework is adequate - see Table 5 page 8.
38 ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS
Wiring external to the boiler MUST be in accordance with
WARNING. This appliance MUST be efficiently earthed the current I.E.E. (BS7671) Wiring Regulations and any
local regulations.
A mains supply of 230 V ~ 50 Hz is required.
Connection must be made in a way that allows complete
The fuse rating should be 3 A.
isolation of the electrical supply - such as a double pole
All external controls and wiring MUST be suitable for mains switch, having a 3mm (1/8") contact separation in both
voltage. Wiring should be 3 core PVC insulated flexible cord poles, or a plug and socket serving only the boiler and
NOT LESS than 0.75 mm2 (24 x 0.2mm) and to BS. 6500, system controls.
Table 16. (0.5mm2 flex is NOT acceptable - for mechanical, The means of isolation must be accessible to the user after
not electrical - reasons.) installation.
1. Ensure a length of 200mm between the wall and the connector. Fix the
cable(s) to the mounting frame with the clamp(s).
2. Wire the mains cable into the connector terminal strip (supplied in the
hardware pack).
3. Offer the connector to its mating half inside the boiler. Secure the
connector to the panel with the screw.
INSTALLATION
LEGEND br - brown pk - pink w - white
b - blue gy - grey r - red y - yellow
bk - black or - orange v - violet y/g - yellow/green
PCB 40
LEGEND
b - blue
RES 6093
bk - black
v
br - brown v
gy - grey
or - orange
pk - pink
PCB 41
r - red
v - violet
w - white
y - yellow
y/g - yellow/green
All external controls and wiring must be suitable for mains voltage.
Wiring should be 3 core PVC insulated cable, not less than 0.75 mm2 (24
x 0.2mm).
Internal Programmer
The Ideal Programmer Kit is supplied with its own instructions.
Associated controls should be wired as shown in Diagram A.
Room Thermostat
However, if parts of the pipework run outside the house
It is recommended to use a room thermostat in conjunction with the or if the boiler will be left off for more than a day or so
boiler to give the most efficient boiler performance and the most then a frost thermostat should be wired into the system.
comfortable central heating performance. The room thermostat
should be wired (depending on the programmer option) as either
The frost thermostat should be sited in a cold place but
diagram A, B or C. The boiler will operate without a room thermostat
where it can sense heat from the system.
by using the central heating temperature control to vary the flow
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temperature between 70 C and 82 C (± 5 C.)
Wiring should be as shown.
Frost Thermostat
Note. If the boiler is installed in a garage it may be
Central heating systems fitted wholly inside the house do not normally
necessary to fit a pipe thermostat, preferably on the
require frost protection as the house acts as a 'storage heater' and
return pipework.
can normally be left at least 24 hours without frost damage.
WARNING. Whilst effecting the required gas soundness test and purging air from the gas installation, open all windows and
doors, extinguish naked lights and DO NOT SMOKE.
INSTALLATION
The illustration is shown with the control door removed. The illustration is shown with the control & front panel removed.
LEGEND
A 'Mains on' neon. E Burner pressure test point. J Gas service cock.
B 'Burner on' neon. F Signal pressure test point (Lo). K Heating control knob.
C Boiler (on/off) switch. G Signal pressure test point (Hi)-fan. L Pressure gauge.
D Heating switch. H Overheat thermostat reset button. M Programmer display (optional).
IMPORTANT.
Before lighting the boiler you should note especially that: 6. Check that the gas service cock (J) is ON.
a. To extract maximum heat from the boiler, a 2 minute 7. Switch the electricity supply ON and check that all external
pump overrun period occurs after each heating cycle controls are calling for heat.
(unless immediately followed by DHW draw off).
8. Set the boiler (on/off) switch (C) and the heating switch (D)
b. During this period the boiler will not restart for CH, to 'ON'. Following a pre-purge period the gas control
even if the room thermostat is calling - this prevents solenoid valve should open and the spark commence,
short cycling and thus is more efficient. continuing until the burner is established.
c. The 2 minute period can be curtailed by running a hot 9. Check that the burner lights smoothly and that the 'Burner
tap for a few seconds or turning the mains off briefly. on' neon (B) illuminates. The boiler will attempt 4
ignitions. If the burner does not light after the 4 attempts,
d. At the end of each period of DHW draw-off the pump turn the on/off switch to OFF, wait for 5 seconds then try
will run for few seconds, to extract the residual heat again. If the burner still does not light refer to the 'Fault
from the heat exchanger. Finding' section.
e. Provided that the mains supply switches are left ON, 10. Test for gas soundness around ALL boiler gas
the pump will run for at least 30 seconds each day components, using leak detection fluid.
(even if neither CH nor DHW is in use), as a self-
checking measure. 11. Operate the boiler for 10 minutes to stabilise the burner
temperature.
3. Check that the overheat thermostat (H) is calling for heat - 13. Set the boiler (on/off) switch (C) to OFF.
press the reset button.
14. Remove the pressure gauge and tube. Replace the
4. Remove boiler front panel. Refer to Frame 48. sealing screw in the pressure test point. Ensure a gas
tight seal is made.
5. Remove the screw in the burner pressure test point (E) -
located behind the lower front panel - and connect a gas 15. Refit the boiler front panel, using the screw previously
pressure gauge via a flexible tube. removed.
Be sure to select the correct pressure test point. Refer to
Tables 2 & 3 on page 3 for pressures. 16. Switch the boiler on again.
46 HANDING OVER
6. If a programmer kit is fitted, draw attention to the
After completing the installation and commissioning Programmer Kit User's Instructions and hand them to the
of the system, the installer should hand over to the householder.
householder by the following actions: 7. After installation, commissioning and customer hand-over
1. Hand the User's Instructions to the householder and instructions please complete the appliance log
explain his or her responsibilities under current Gas book and leave this with the customer.
Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations, or rules in 8. Stress the importance of regular servicing by a CORGI
force. registered installer and that a comprehensive service
2. Draw attention to the Lighting Instruction label affixed to should be carried out AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR.
the inside of the lower front door. 9. Demonstrate how to repressurise the boiler when the
3. Explain and demonstrate the lighting and shutting down system pressure falls below 0.5 bar.
procedures. 10. Emphasise to the user that the boiler may stop
4. The operation of the boiler and the use and adjustment of working if the system pressure is lowered by draining
ALL system controls should be fully explained to the radiators to decorate behind them. In particular, explain
householder, to ensure the greatest possible fuel
to the user how the domestic hot water temperature
economy consistent with household requirements of both
heating and hot water consumption. varies with flow rate. This is especially important when
water is drawn off while the boiler is already running for
5. Advise the user of the precautions necessary to prevent
damage to the system and to the building, in the event of central heating (refer to 'CAUTION' in User's
the system remaining inoperative during frosty conditions. Instructions, page 2).
2. When the boiler has settled down check the gas rate at
the meter (if the meter is of the pointer type you should The servicing procedures are covered more fully in Frames
time only complete revolutions of the pointer). Check the 48 to 53 and MUST be carried out in sequence.
gas rate against the figures given in Table 1 for CH WARNING.
operation.
ALWAYS turn off the gas supply at the gas service cock, and
3. Fully open a hot water tap. The pump should stop as the switch off and disconnect the electricity supply to the
boiler switches to HW mode. When the boiler has settled appliance before servicing.
down check the gas rate, as in step 3, checking the
measured rate against the figures given in Table 1 for HW Switching the boiler on/off switch 'off' when a frost thermostat
operation. is wired directly from the mains may leave a live feed to the
SERVICING
boiler.
4. Check the percentages of CO and CO2 in the flue gases at
ALWAYS test for gas soundness and carry out functional
the sampling point provided. Refer to Frame 48.
checks on reassembly.
Note. If your meter reads CO in parts per million the figure IMPORTANT. When work is complete the boiler inner front
sealing panel MUST be correctly refitted, making a good
seal.
DO NOT OPERATE THE BOILER IF THE SEALING
PANEL IS NOT FITTED.
48 BOILER SEALING PANEL REMOVAL
1. Turn off the gas supply at the gas service cock and 3. Remove the screws and pull out the tabs from the slots.
disconnect the electricity supply.
2. Remove the screw and lift off the boiler front panel.
replacement.
Note. Always take care when handling the fan,
in order to preserve the balance of the
impeller.
3. Reconnect the fan electrical harness. 7. Refit the boiler front panel.
SERVICING
4. Ensure that the fan 'O' ring seal is in place then refit the 8. Turn on the gas supply at the gas service cock.
fan, engaging it in the bayonet fixing and locating it in
the retaining clip on the burner mounting plate. 9. Reconnect the electrical supply.
! Frame 45 'Gas rate.' Frame 82 deals with possible causes of incorrect burner
pressure.
REPLACEMENT OF COMPONENTS
54 GENERAL
WHEN REPLACING ANY COMPONENT:
THE BOILER MUST NOT BE OPERATED IF THE SEALING PANEL IS NOT FITTED.
2. Remove the controls panel. Swing the panel upside down and fix
with the long screws. Remove the bottom panel.
SERVICING
58 SPARK AND DETECTION ELECTRODE REPLACEMENT
SERVICING
2. Remove the casing bottom panel.
SERVICING
a. All seals are correctly refitted.
b. The sensing pipe is correctly refitted.
c. The fan is fully engaged.
5. Slacken the nut on the other end of the lower cold pipe
assembly.
67 HW EXPANSION VESSEL
1. Disconnect the electrical
supply to the boiler.
2. Remove the boiler bottom panel. 7. Unplug the inline electrical connector.
SERVICING
isolating valves. Fit the filling loop - fill, vent and
pressurise to 1 bar (or as required).
3. Remove the controls panel.
If a programmer is fitted it is necessary to disconnect the 14. Restore services and operate the heating controls
programmer harness at the terminal block. to test-fire the boiler.
4. Close the valves on the CH flow and return pipework 15. Vent air and top up the pressure again, if required.
below the boiler. 16. Remove the filling loop.
SERVICING
73 PROGRAMMER REPLACEMENT (if fitted)
1. Refer to Frame 54.
positioned.
SERVICING
77 PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE (Safety Valve) REPLACEMENT
A. If it has a punctured diaphragm, but is otherwise leak free, then it can be left in place
and a new vessel added to the system, external to the boiler, provided it is of adequate
capacity and pre-charge pressure.
B. If there is at least 600mm clearance above the boiler, the expansion vessel can be
changed without removing the boiler (RH exit flues will have to be disturbed). Access to
the water connection of the expansion vessel is either by removal of the right hand side
boiler panel (if there is 200mm RHS clearance) or by removal of the fan and gas valve.
C. If there is insufficient headroom, the boiler will need to be removed. In this case,
access to the water connection of the expansion vessel will be possible by removing
the RH boiler side panel.
(refer Frame 49) and gas valve (refer Frame 62) to gain
access to the expansion vessel connector.
B4.Disconnect the flue, if RH exit, and remove to the right
(general details are reverse of Frames 18 & 28).
YES
Does the boiler provide HW ? Does the boiler provide CH ?
NO NO
NO
YES
Is the water system pressure low ? Go to Frame 86
NO
NO Go to Frame 82
Does the fan run correctly ?
YES
Correct pressure
NO
Has the gas line been purged of air ? Purge gas line
YES
NO
Is there a spark at the ignition Go to Frame 84
electrodes during an ignition attempt ?
YES
NO
Does the boiler light ? Go to Frame 85
YES but only
briefly
YES
EXIT
The correct sequence of operation during ignition is as 3. If the fuse on PCB 41 is OK, the 'power' and 'lockout' LEDs
follows:- PCB 41 illuminate.
FAULT FINDING
1. Mains to boiler with water pressure switch and overheat 4. After 8 seconds pre-purge time 'lockout' LED 2 goes OFF,
thermostat closed. the spark starts and the gas valve opens.
2. a. Hot water tap turned on (HW and Fan lights come on) 5. If a flame is detected the spark stops, 'lockout' LED stays
- the flow switch signals this to PCB 40, which starts OFF and the 'Burner on' neon lights - the fan speed and
the fan at full speed and sends power to Ignition gas rate then adjust as dictated by boiler water
Control PCB 41. temperature.
or b. Clock, heating switch and room thermostat call for 6. If a flame is not detected the spark stops, the gas valve
heat (CH and Fan lights come on) - PCB 40 senses closes, the fan continues to run for a post purge. The gas
this, starts the fan at full speed and sends power to valve reopens and the spark restarts. PCB 41 will attempt 4
the pump and Ignition Control PCB 41. ignitions. If all 4 attempts fail the 'lockout' LED comes ON.
or c. Both the above call for heat (HW and Fan lights Foot Note: Presence of Live supply on a terminal may be
come on) - HW takes priority, i.e. pump OFF, fan checked with a multimeter set to the appropriate AC range
running at full speed, power to PCB 41. (apply the other probe of the meter to mains neutral, e.g. on
terminal N of the programmer terminal strip).
Note 1. At the end of a call for heat by the room thermostat / time control, a 2 minute pump overrun period occurs. During this
time the boiler will not restart for CH even if the controls are calling for heat. This is done to prevent uneconomical
'short cycling.' This period can be curtailed by running a hot tap for a few seconds.
Is there power to YES Is there power at the Check for moisture on PCB 40.
the pump at the pump itself ? If no fault found check PCB 40 by
connector on substitution.
PCB 40 ?
NO YES
NO
Check YES
Is the HW light lit If the boiler has been unused with Replace
the lead mains off, the pump may be stuck. cap
on PCB 40 ?
to the
pump Remove screw cap on the pump
YES NO head and turn the shaft with a
screwdriver until free. NO Switch off
and change
Does the pump now run ?
Check that pump
heating
controls are
FAULT FINDING
WARNING.
When panels are removed for service, live parts are exposed so caution should be exercised when fault-finding.
YES
Is the HW light on PCB 40 flashing ? Unplug the lead from the sensor
and connect it temporarily to a
replacement sensor, if available.
NO (Alternatively, see footnote)
Does the flashing stop ?
YES NO
Is there a flow of at least 3.5 litres per
minute (or about 1 pint in 10 seconds)
when a hot tap is turned on ? Fit new HW Check - and
sensor repair or
replace the
sensor lead.
YES NO Does boiler
operate ?
NO
YES NO
NO
Checking CH and HW thermistor sensors
NO
YES NO YES
Check pump for shorts Is there mains voltage Can it be reset when the boiler is cold
between L/N and L/E. between primary ?
terminals (brown and NO YES
If no fault found
disconnect the pump blue leads) of mains
Reset 'stat. Check
and lead to PCB 41, transformer ? (Expect Replace temperatures as the
renew fuse and 230V 50Hz ± 10%) overheat boiler warms up. If the
reconnect each item 'stat
one by one until the overheat 'stat trips:
YES NO
faulty item is below 90° - replace the
determined overheat stat.
Check lead to
transformer above 90° - check CH/
HW thermistors and
replace as required.
NO
Has secondary fuse F1 on PCB 40 blown ? Examine fan wiring harness, checking
especially for loose connections or
YES disconnected wires.
Replace fuse. Examine fan harness, checking If no fault found, check fan by substitution.
especially for short circuits between wires or Does replacement fan run OK ?
FAULT FINDING
terminals.
YES NO
If no fault found, power up board without fan
harness connected. Does fuse F1 blow ?
Refit original fan. Check
YES EXIT YES PCB 40 by substitution.
YES NO
Does the fan Does fan now run ?
NO
Replace run ?
Reconnect the NO
PCB 40 harness and fan and NO
restore power. Leave replacement PCB fitted
Does the fuse blow ? YES but check the fuses on it.
Check fan by substitution
Fit replacement fan.
Foot Note: Presence of live supply on a terminal may be checked with a multimeter set to the appropriate AC range (apply the other probe
of the meter to mains neutral, e.g. on terminal N of the programmer terminal strip).
Is the fuse good on PCB 41? NO Check all items connected to PCB 41
(LED3 lit confirms this) for short circuits between Live and
Neutral, also between Live and Earth.
NO
Is the gas supply pressure adequate at Is the supply pressure correct at the
the appliance inlet during an ignition gas meter ?
trial period (i.e. when LED 2 on PCB 41
YES NO
goes off) ?
YES
Is the fan pressure sensing pipe correctly NO Rectify the fault and take steps to
connected, free from damage and prevent recurrence
unobstructed by solid matter or moisture
?
YES
NO
Is there Live on the brown lead of the gas Check PCB 41 by substitution
valve connector on PCB 41 during an
ignition trial period ?
YES
FAULT FINDING
YES
NO
NO
Remove connectors. With mains OFF, Change lead assembly
check continuity of leads from each socket Is burner pressure
unit back to the corresponding terminals in correct ?
the control box. Are leads in good order ? YES
Replace gas valve solenoids
YES
Return to main
menu
Note. Do not attempt to measure the voltage between the spark generator output (spark) leads !
YES
YES
Disconnect HT leads from the spark
Is there evidence of the spark 'tracking' NO electrodes.
(jumping across electrodes or leads) Place the leads so that the connectors
externally to the burner ? are 3 to 5mm apart and clear of other
metalwork.
YES
WARNING
Do NOT hold the leads
Rectify poor connections or replace the
Turn off the boiler gas cock.
spark generator or electrodes
YES Is there a spark between the HT leads
during ignition ?
NO
Remove the fan and burner assembly and
reconnect spark leads to the electrode
Replace faulty spark generator and
terminals.
restore gas supply
Check that the gap between terminals is 4
to 5mm and that the distance to the flame
FAULT FINDING
NO YES
YES
Is this a new installation ? Check that the gas injector is unobstructed.
NO
YES
Has any electrical work been done to the
boiler or the house wiring ?
YE
NO S
YES YES
NO
NO
NO
Are there any obvious leaks ? Use a drain cock (not the safety valve) to release all
pressure on the boiler pressure gauge. Remove cap
from the air valve on the expansion vessel.
Measure air pressure with a car tyre pressure gauge.
Fill and repressurise the system but leave Is it at least 0.8 bar (12 lb/in2) ?
the boiler OFF.
YES NO
Check boiler heat exchanger, all CH
pipework and radiators for leaks, including
loft or underfloor pipes where used. Unscrew the Schrader valve from expansion
vessel and fit new valve (e.g. from car tyre sales
Was a leak found ? outlet).
vessel
exceed) 2.5 bars ?
NO
NO NO
LEGEND
1. Burner.
2. Burner injector. 28. Pressure sensing pipe. 57. Gas manifold gasket.
3. Gas valve. 29. Sensing pipe clamp plate 58. Gas valve gasket.
4. Flame sensing electrode. 54. Fan / burner mounting 'O' ring. 68. Gas cock 1/2".
5. Ignition electrode. 55. Fan 'O' ring. 74. Injector pipe 'O' ring.
19. Fan assembly. 56. Pressure pipe 'O' ring. 75. Gas elbow 'O' ring.
Legend
3 Gas valve (SIT ref. 0.828.113) (calibrated) fitted with 1 off M5 x 20 lg. stud,
c/w: 1 off gas valve gasket,
4 off M4 x 12 lg. pozi pan hd. screws,
4 off M5 x 10 lg. pozi pan hd. screws, 1 off O' ring
E01-143 Response 80 1 075212
E01-797 Response 100/120 1 075213
9 E01-801 Fan speed control board (EBM) c/w 4 off PCB stand-offs 1 075265
11 E00-049 Thermostat, boiler overheat (Ranco ref. LM7 T95 - 336) 1 138719
12 Water pressure switch assembly (Novomec ref.650 2211 037), c/w: adaptor 1 173227
14 E00-052 CH and DHW sensor, c/w: 1 off fibre washer 10 I.D. 1 075201
22 E00-060 DHW expansion vessel (Zilmet ref. Zi 160 S/D 1/4"), c/w:
1 off 1/4" fibre washer. 1 075179
26 379-796 Automatic air vent (Caleffi ref. CA 502630), including 'O' ring 1 113116
31 E00-070 Sealed casing seal pack (2 off top / bottom seals, 2 off side seals) 1 075184
44 E00-082 Tank cover panel assembly, c/w: 3 off M4 x 10 lg. pozi hex. hd. screws 1 075194
Res 5972
CERTIFIED PRODUCT
Manufactured under a BS EN ISO 9001: 1994
Quality System accepted by BSI
Ideal Boilers, P.O. Box 103, National Ave, Kingston upon Hull,
HU5 4JN. Telephone: 01482 492 251 Fax: 01482 448 858.
Registration No. London 322 137.
Caradon Ideal Limited pursues a policy of continuing
improvement in the design and performance of its products. The
right is therefore reserved to vary specification without notice. April 2003 UIN 152 318 A12
CAUTION. To avoid the possibility of injury during the installation, servicing or cleaning of
this appliance care should be taken when handling edges of sheet steel components.
switch, fused at 3 A. minimum water draw-off rate of about 3.5 litre/min. (0.75 g.p.m.).
Additionally, the draw-off temperature is controlled by adjusting
Minimum Clearances the flow rate at the tap - the higher the draw-off rate, the lower the
temperature.
The minimum clearances given below must be complied with in
order to maintain the safe running of the boiler and to facilitate CAUTION
servicing. In common with most combi boilers, the Response can
produce water at over 800C when serving central heating. If,
Above the turret - 50 mm (2")
therefore, you run a hot tap when the boiler has been heating
At each side of the boiler - 5 mm (1/4")
the radiators, the first pint or so flowing from the boiler to the
Underneath the boiler casing: hot taps could be uncomfortably hot.
in use - 10 mm (3/8")
for service - 150 mm (6") Always run hot water into the sink or basin first - DO NOT
PUT YOUR HANDS under a running tap if the boiler was
Front of the boiler:
already hot.
in use - 5 mm (1/4")
for service - 450 mm (18")
Central Heating
The boiler modulating control automatically maintains the central
IMPORTANT NOTES o o
heating radiator temperature between 85 C and 70 C via the
1. THIS APPLIANCE MUST NOT BE OPERATED WITHOUT variable central heating temperature control (F).
THE INNER FRONT SEALING PANEL BEING CORRECTLY FITTED.
If your system includes a room thermostat the CH temperature
2. Compartment Installations control (F) may be left in its maximum position.
If the boiler is installed in a compartment then the compartment If your household includes very young or elderly people you may,
MUST NOT be used for storage purposes. however, reduce this setting, for safety reasons.
Ventilation provided for boilers installed in compartments MUST
NOT be blocked, and a check should be made periodically
that the ventilation areas are free from any obstruction.
To light the boiler (see illustration right)
Summer Conditions - Domestic Hot Water Only
3. If it is known or suspected that a fault exists on the boiler then
1. Set the mains switch (C) to 'ON'.
it MUST NOT BE USED until the fault has been corrected by a
CORGI registered installer. 2. Set the heating switch (D) to 'OFF'.
Whenever domestic hot water is drawn off, the boiler will fire to
provide instantaneous hot water at the tap.
Escape of gas
Should a gas leak or fault be suspected contact your local gas Winter Conditions - Central Heating & Domestic Hot Water
supplier without delay. 1. Set the mains switch (C) to 'ON'.
2. Set the heating switch (D) to 'ON' and external controls button
Do NOT search for gas leaks with a naked flame. to ON.
The boiler will fire and supply heat to the radiators but will give
priority to domestic hot water when required.
Note.
Small movements of the handle will only be necessary
to effect the water temperature change required.
If these simple checks fail to solve the problem, or the
problem recurs, consult your service engineer.
BOILER CONTROLS
LEGEND
A 'Mains on' neon
B 'Burner on' neon
C Mains switch
D Heating switch
E Programmer (optional)
F Radiator temperature
control
G System water pressure
gauge
H Overheat thermostat reset
At Ideal we've been leaders in the design and engineering of robust and
reliable boilers for over 90 years. We want to continue as leaders by
listening to your suggestions for how to improve our boilers and our service.
We'll be giving away a free boiler for the five best ideas every year (to be
selected by our Technical Director). Please complete this form, using
extra sheets if required, and post it or fax it to us on 01482 498699.
Boiler details
Model / Size (e.g. Classic RS 230, Mexico CF 3/60 etc. Details on control panel door)
Date of Installation
Installer details
Name
Address
If you would like information about Ideal Boilers please complete this
sheet and fax it to us on 01482 498699 or post it to Caradon Plumbing
L i m i t e d ,
PO Box 103, National Avenue, Kingston upon Hull, HU5 4JN.
Installer details
Name
Address
Caradon Plumbing Ltd, PO Box 103, National Avenue, Kingston upon Hull, HU5 4JN. Telephone: 01482 492251 Fax: 01482 448858.