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09-30-2011 #1

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First off here is some basic Recaro knowledge, hopefully you guys will
appreciate it. It mostly covers seats made from the late 70s and up, i
dont have a ton of info on the earlier seats. I will update this thread as
i have the time, still have ALOT to add.

Most older Recaros have a basic model number such as LX, LS, SRD.
For most of the older models the first 2 letters stand for the back of
the seat and the last digit stands for the base of the seat. For example
an LX will stand for the back of the seat with its trademark pointy
triangular bolsters but an LX-A will be the same back mounted to a flat
base. Here is an example of a 3rd gen LX (top picture) and a 3rd gen
LX-A (bottom)

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Here is an original brochure showing model names for ref. and pdf link
if interested in higher res

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Most of the common recaro seats can be traced through 4+

generations, each with their own specific details and differences. For
example the first few generations of LS's (also known as the idealseat)
have the trademark large rolling D shaped upper bolsters with lower
bolsters that are very large and slope very close to the back of the
lower frame. The original idealseat also had an upper adjustment knob.
Later generations have a very similar back at first glance but the lower
bolster foam is much smaller with the slope of the bolster midway back
on the frame as seen here. The first 3 generations all had different
back adjustment knobs and covers as well.

early vs newer foam

The construction of the early recaros was very primitive compared to

the later generations. Honestly the biggest improvement i have found
through the generations is the advancement in the construction of the
seats. The gen 1/2 seats are fairly difficult to assemble where as the
later 3rd and 4th generations are about as simple as you can imagine.
The newer seats such as the sportster cs, trend, sport, and so on have
actually become a completely different monster, recaro pretty much
redesigned the basic construction of the model line in the 2000's.

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How to spot a FAKE

Its not always easy to spot a fake but there are a few simple steps you
can follow to increase your chances of purchasing a genuine recaro. My
best advice is just to do your research ahead of time. If you are going
to check out a set of seats on craigslist look up pictures of real seats or
maybe even print out pictures to bring with you for reference. In most
case if its too good to be true it normally is. This is also mainly only a
problem with a handful of models including the srd/speed and the line
of fixed back recaros. Here are a few things to keep an eye out for..

- Is the 'RECARO' lettered correctly? If the letters are spaced from

each other? Is the lettering crooked? If it generally looks off chances
are you are not dealing with a genuine recaro.

- If it is a fixed back does it have a valid FIA tag? All recaro fixed back
seats will have a real fia visible on the side of the seat.

- What style diaphragm does the seat use? You will only find 3 style of
supports on genuine recaro seats. The first design was a support strap.
They were made of a nylon style material and each seat would have
had around 3 of them going horizontally across the base attaching with
a U style hook. The second generation used a support diaphragm. It
was a single support made with 1-2 large rubber pcs bonded to a
burlap style material and attached using a dowel and hook method on
each side of the support. ALL srds used a 1pc diaphragm. The newest
Recaro seats use a molded plastic but that is pretty self explanatory.
Here are a few examples..

gen 1 straps (New jjcustominterior strap on top, original in

middle)

gen 2 diaphragm

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FAKE speed as found on ebay (you can also see the

material is hog ringed onto the frame, something recaro
hasnt done since the 70's.) Honestly there are about 100
things i could pick apart on these seats to show they are
fake but this is the easiest to spot. They dont always look
like this but this is the most obvious to spot.

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Here is another speed that at first glance looked 100% legit short of
some "off" recaro stitching but once i removed the insert found this..

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If you are going to purchase a seat and want to send me pictures of it

ahead of time im always more then willing to help and identify
anything that i can.

Seats

Model C (classic c / ortho / classic c / cse)

(Est. $400 - $2500 per set depending on specific model / options /

condition)

Available in power and manual variations as an aftermarket seat and

dealer option for various european cars. Most featured 8 way
adjustable bolsters, heated inserts, power air controlled lumbar
support, and some also had a blatpunk speaker headrest. The Model c
was Recaros top of the line luxory seat offered in the 80's and through
the 90's. Variations of this seat were optional in e30 bmw's (6k dealer
option) Mercedes 190 cosworths, Audi URQuattors (non power),
Various Porches, and a few other vehicles that escape me at this time.
Variations of this seat are still available from Recaro as the Ortho line.

These seats were also available in a few manual versions that used the
B style base.

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LS

(est. $300-$2000 depending on specific model and condition)

The LS is one of the most popular seats Recaro made through the late
70's/80's/90's. Variations of the LS were found in but not limited to
cars made by Ferrari, BMW, Alfa, Volkswagen, Porsche, Ford, and
more.. They are most commonly found in mk2 volkswagens and Alfa
Romeo milano verdes within the US.

The later ls was available with an a,b,c, or d base, but most commonly
found with a b or c base. There are also a few rare power version that i
do not have a ton of information on. (pictured below in black with
control panel on bolster)

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Speed / SRD

(est. $300-2000+ depending on model and condition)

By far the most copied Recaro of all time. Be very cautious when
buying these seats as prob 80% of the seats on the market are fake
chinese replicas. I would not feel safe putting the replicas in a car as
the build quality and materials used are fairly poor (i have litterally
seen people shred the metal on the base just removing sliders (can
post pics of carnage). The Recaro SRD is prob. the most well known
Recaro as it has been available since the 80's and is still in production
to this day as the speed. They have came in everything from e30
bmw's to Toyota supras along with hondas, nissans, fords, and so on..
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Also here is an easy way to tell the difference between a speed and an
srd. Take a close look at the curves of the upper bolster foam.. The
SRD has a larger more triangular "shoulder" foam where the speed is
smaller and more smooth. Also you can see the speed has a larger
headrest section but the ITR versions of the seat were actually a hybrid
of the two and tech a speed. Also NO TRUE SRD ever came with the
small recaro logo, only the speeds.

speed

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09-30-2011 #2

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LX/SE/Specialist
(est. $300-$1500 depending on specific model and condition)

The recaro LX is one of the oldest recaro variations available along with
the LS. The Recaro lx still has a variation in production to this
day(specialist). It is commonly found in early to late 80's cars such as
the TransAm, Mustang, 300zx, and various other models. The Gen 1 lx
has the larger lower bolsters but maintains the same triangular back
that is the trademark of the LX.

Another member of the LX/LS/etc family that's often seen, the SE.
These were Recaro's "budget" sport seat in the late '90s and early '00s,
they also had a decent period-correct look for '70s and '80s cars since
they were mostly based on the LX.

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A8 (gen 1/2)
(est. $600-$3k depending on specific gen, condition, and trim)

The A8 is by far one of the most highly desired recaros available at this
time. They are one of the first recaro sport seats to feature a new
frame design for passenger vehicles. There were 2 variations of the A8
to be released and they were available as factory options in a select
group of exotics. The majority of A8's you will find are of the
aftermarket variety.

Gen 1

Gen 2

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General Info

mounting pattern

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available headrest options

*Netted*

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*Standard Solid*

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*Wrap around*

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Seat Dimensions

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Brochures / Ads

Audi

Volkswagen (mk2)

Here you can see that VW offered the Model C, LX, and LS as optional
seats for the mk2's in europe.

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Crash Test

Recaro SRD:

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still have a ton of info to add and more seats to list, if you guys ever
have any recaro related questions feel free to let me know.

I restore them up for a living and have nearly 100 seats so chances are
if you have a question i have an answer.

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Ron is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to Recaro seats old and

new.

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ty - they pretty much consume my life at this point haha

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Originally Posted by jeff70

Ron is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to Recaro seats old

and new.

+1 on that.

I learned an enormous amount on Recaros and what to look for from

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You forgot all about the kid's ProSPORT seat. It was the only Recaro
seat I ever owned, well, I guess my daughter owned it. Truly, an
expertly designed seat. I read somewhere that it is the seat that has
the most developement ever from Recaro.

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wow didnt know you were here too, looks like ive been missing out.
How is that bolster holding up? Did it go back into shape or is it still
wanting to sit crooked?

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Originally Posted by go-fish

You forgot all about the kid's ProSPORT seat. It was the only
Recaro seat I ever owned, well, I guess my daughter owned it.

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Truly, an expertly designed seat. I read somewhere that it is the

seat that has the most developement ever from Recaro.

Yeah i know they put a ton of time into the kids seats. They pretty
much came out an were able to dominate nearly everything else on the
market. You figure Recaro has been so far ahead of the curve for so
long that they have a huge backlog of research to build off of. Its a
shame that the quality has went down with the newer seats.

They were just sold 8 months or so ago to johnson controls, hopefully

they wont take them in the wrong direction.

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Its in about the same position. I tried to ease it back when I got back
but couldn't quite get it to stay. But I didn't try very hard.

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Well lmk if you cant get it and maybe i can strip it down really quick
and adjust it for you. I should be down that way in the next month
some time.

Oh and btw, just recovered another set recently. Still an option if you

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ever want to go down that road

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Wow, that is a ton of information on Recaro seats. Someday I would

love to own a set! Thanks for all the work you put into making us all
smarter.
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10-01-2011 #16

Ron@JJCustomInterior

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No problem, still have a ton to add just need more free time to do it.
Hopefully you guys will find it useful

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10-06-2011 #17

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Going to try to get some updates on here tonight

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10-06-2011 #18

Ron@JJCustomInterior

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If you guys have any special request or questions feel free to lmk and
ill help any way i can

https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/83440-Recaro-Resource-Guide?s=feaf08905278391f49ed676570c91174&fbclid=IwAR0F4wacYpyZ95gaL… 45/46
22/08/2021 Recaro Resource Guide

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11-13-2011 #19

wegner426

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Ron,
What model seat is the one just above in black leather? Also do you
have them available and are what is the cost?
Thanks,
Chad

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11-13-2011 #20

Ron@JJCustomInterior

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That would be a Recaro SRD that we recovered and installed a custom

anti sub guide in. They start at $1800 for a set.

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