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12-31-2011, 10:46 AM #1
The DSC module failed on my ’00 528iM. I shipped to Module Masters. MM said it
was not repairable and sold me a repaired unit w/ 5 yr warranty. I installed repaired
module and speedometer, odometer and cruise control now functioned. However,
the DSC light, triangle w/ circular arrow, remained lit. INPA/Ediabas reported (2)
error codes. Steering Angle sensor and EGS module (AT trans) CAN bus speed
error. Steering angle calibration was completed thru INPA, code was cleared and
remained cleared Apparently repaired module came from an AT vehicle, mine was
a MT. I could not clear this error, coding was necessary.
The following procedure worked for me, YMMV. You have been warned.
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Install module.
Fileè Load Profile
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Choose Expertmode
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Choose F1 VIN/ZCS/FA
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Choose ECU, OK. I don’t believe it matters which ECU. NCS Expert is going to
read VIN/ZCS/FA information from one of these modules. I choose IKE.
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Below “get coded” seems to be a list of all the modules that can be coded.
Be careful here. Choose F4 Process ECU to code a SINGLE MODULE.
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Paul S
BMW CCA 69606
Last edited by pshovest; 12-31-2011 at 02:34 PM. Reason: Fix formating
12-31-2011, 01:32 PM #2
Thanks
Rob
Current - 1998 540i with 6.6 LS2/T56 Chevy Power
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12-31-2011, 08:19 PM #3
Paul S,
I'm in the middle of doing the exact same repair today. In my case, I have a new,
uncoded module. I will follow your the steps to code it but I have a question about the
steering angle calibration coding. Can you posts the INPA steps for that?
Yesterday, I did something similar to what you described but I don't think it took. I
looked at "Change job" and there are several different "Jobs" there. In my version they're
written in German. Here's a screen shot. Which one should be selected?
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01-01-2012, 12:39 PM #4
geobrick,
I am using INPA 3.01, Ediabas 6.4.3, NCS Expert 3.0.8 from the shared site. Enthusiasts
far more knowledgable then me claim this is the most complete version and best for
E39's.
What versions are you using?
What error codes does INPA show for your DSC module?
If I was coding a new module I think I would follow the exact same procedure I used.
Paul S
BMW CCA 69606
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Paul S,
I'm in the middle of doing the exact same repair today. In my case, I have a new,
uncoded module. I will follow your the steps to code it but I have a question about the
steering angle calibration coding. Can you posts the INPA steps for that?
Yesterday, I was did something similar to what you described but I don't think it took. I
looked at "Change job" and there are several different "Jobs" there. In my version
they're written in German. Here's a screen shot. Which one should be selected?
01-07-2012, 07:49 PM #5
If I was coding a new module I think I would follow the exact same procedure I used.
Paul S
BMW CCA 69606
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Sorry for the delayed reply, I ended up using DIS to do the Steering angle sensor
calibration. After that, I noticed the special test area in INPA and saw the test but I didn't
think it applied becase it said E46 and I have an E39.
INPA is 3.01
EDAIBAS is 6.4.3
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It seems we're using the same tools except I'm using the carsoft 6.5 serial interface.
INPA also reports a mismatch when I try to read the Steering angle sensor but it's just a
warning and it lets me proceed.
Have you read about something called the "end of belt test"? It's the last step in the TIS
for doing a DSC module swap. See a description in this post http://www.bmwcoding.com
/showthread....ull=1#post5799 I haven't done it and I don't know where to find it in DIS.
01-07-2012, 09:28 PM #6
Great stuff
Thanks for posting this.
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01-08-2012, 09:45 AM
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Geobrick,
Glad to hear you got it working. I had read that the INPA E46 Steering angle sensor
calibration was suitable for E39's and E53's. Fortunately it worked. With your '01 E39 I
believe you're using the OBD connector. I'm using the underhood 20 pin DLC connector.
It seems there is either a communication problem with your setup (CarSoft interface) or
there's something about an uncoded module that prevents it from being read with INPA.
I'm curious if you have any trouble reading IHKA, Kombi, MID, modules with INPA?
I was not prompted to do the "end of belt" test with NCS Expert. However when I coded
car with EasyDIS/GT1 for auto door locks @5 MPH, I was prompted to do the "ignition off
for 10 seconds" part of the end of belt test.
Paul S
BMW CCA 69606
INPA is 3.01
EDAIBAS is 6.4.3
NCS Expert is 3.0.8
It seems we're using the same tools except I'm using the carsoft 6.5 serial interface.
INPA also reports a mismatch when I try to read the Steering angle sensor but it's just a
warning and it lets me proceed.
Have you read about something called the "end of belt test"? It's the last step in the TIS
for doing a DSC module swap. See a description in this post
http://www.bmwcoding.com/showthread....ull=1#post5799 I haven't done it and I
don't know where to find it in DIS.
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01-08-2012, 03:45 PM #8
Yes. I have the OBD connector. Nothing under the hood. I can read everything else with
INPA (I don't think my car has the MID).
Even now that the trifecta warning lights are gone and there are no error codes (so I'm
assuming it's coded), I get the SYS-0012 error with INPA. I also get a missmatch warning
about the LWS (steering angle sensor) but the program continues to let me access that
module and run whatever tests I want.
Update: I found this post about the coding and calibration steps on another forum. It
seems to make sense since there are other sensors in the DSC.
Last edited by geobrick; 01-08-2012 at 04:59 PM. Reason: Added new information
01-09-2012, 08:04 PM #9
Here are some screen shots relating to my other post (or this post if it gets combined).
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And I still get the SYS-0012 Error in INPA when reading the DSC Module.
I have one question, what do I need to code in my ASC+T/ABS module when I change
from automatic transmission to manual transmission?
Thanks,
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2000 E39 540i DSC Module coded, but still have Christmas lights on IP?
Just coded my brand new DSC module with NCS Expert 3.1.0 and it completed
successfully, but I still have the yellow DSC, BRAKE & ABS lights that won't go away.
I see the steering angle data in INPALOAD,and the wheel looks centered according to the
graph.
Regards,
Steve Kent
Houston, TX
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I will check the errors out. What is odd is that I never lost my speedo when I was driving
around with the un-coded new DSC module.
That is a good thought on the wheel speeds. I'll check that out - need to find a way to
drive the car with the 20 pin diag connector connected.
I could not find wheel speeds when I had E39 chassis selected. I tried INPA version 5.00
and 5.01.
I used the E46 chassis with INPA v5.00 and was able to see the wheel speeds.
Also checked the steering angle sensor and it is dead nuts on. I can't figure out how to
reset it even thought it appears to be ok.
Steve
Last edited by skent; 11-11-2012 at 03:48 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I'm at a loss.
The wheel speeds look perfect, the steering angle is dead on, and I have all the right
versions of the programs running error-free.
Using INPA, no error codes and I can control various things like radio functions, look at
engine rpm, etc., so I know communications are OK.
I can code the DSC module with NCS EXPERT and it claims that it is successful.
I still have the yellow DSC, ABS and BRAKE lights on the IP.
Anyone have any ideas before I do something drastic and take it to the stealership?
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Hard to believe you've got lights and there are no errors reported. Are you certain you're
reading the DSC module? I'm doing this from memory.........I think it's under
E39==>Chassis==> DSC5 or E39==>Body==>DSC5. Can you post your screen shots
that say "no errors"?
Steering Sensor Calibration is under "Special Tests" on first INPA screen. It says E46, but
it works on E39. I would not perform Steering Sensor Calibration UNLESS you find error
message saying calibration is an issue.
............I still have the yellow DSC, ABS and BRAKE lights on the IP..........
I get:
Variant Checking
SYS-0012: IDENTIFICATION ERROR. Program will be stopped.
I get this in all versions that I've tried. I've heard of others getting this error too, don't
know if there is a way around it.
Best Regards,
Steve Kent
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This explains the problem. You're not reading the DSC module. Start a new thread
describing the cable you use, INPA version and perhaps someone can help.
I get:
Variant Checking
SYS-0012: IDENTIFICATION ERROR. Program will be stopped.
I get this in all versions that I've tried. I've heard of others getting this error too, don't
know if there is a way around it.
Best Regards,
Steve Kent
Since you got 2000 model you need to use the under the hood round diagnostic port to
access other modules than DME.
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Best Regards,
Steve
Please friends ... I changed the steering angle sensor on a bmw x3 e83 ... I have to
make an encoding of the sensor is then an alignment .. I want to know what procedure
should I use .. I bought a edin k + can be do-it-self with the software INPA. give me a
step by step guide for not make mistakes .. I do not know the software .. thanks
Read on another forum that ncs 3.0.8 will recode the module. Inpa 5.0 won't do the
steering angle. Was told to get inpa 4.4.7 to do that.
Hey guys, I have a question. I have the same exact problem as the OP. I followed his
steps (except that I selected E46, because I have 325i 2002), BUT, as you can see from
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Ok guys, I figured out that DSC is also MK60 (for whatever reason) and I coded it. The
coding went thorugh, but the light did not disappear. I checked for errors and the code
for incorrect VIN was still there. But then I noticed another thing. On the step where you
sellect your chasis and then your ECU I have 4 options (AKMB, ALSZ, EWS and KMB)
When I select either AKMB or EWS it gives me an error message. I can however select
KMB and ALSZ. But the strange thing is, when I select KMB it showed the wrong VIN!
When I select ALSZ it shows the correct VIN and tried to code MK60 with that, but it did
not fix the problem. What else do I need to code? Because obviously something else is
also needs to be coded. (BTW, the KMB is not on the list of code-able modules).
Perhaps you don't have a coding issue. Did you install a different module? What errors
does INPA report for the DSC/MK60?
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