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12-13-2010, 08:49 AM #1

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How to use WinKFP for programming

Instructions on how to update a module with WinKFP.

1 Start WinKFP and select F3:- Update ZUSB

2 Select ECU type and the ECU will appear along with a list of part numbers.
3 Select ok and the main menu will re-appear
4 Select VIN and enter the cars VIN no. and select OK.
5 Select Done
6 Select Prog. ZB_update, you will be asked to confirm the update, Winkfp wil state the
number of times the module can be re-programmed.
7 Sit back and wait.

I did my TCU with my cars VIN no. and it took 35 mins over the OBD port.

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12-13-2010, 08:56 AM #2

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Does anyone know why there is a limit on the number of times a module can be
programmed?

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12-13-2010, 08:57 AM #3

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Don`t know but this comes up progman and ISTA/p.

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12-13-2010, 08:59 AM #4

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Why did you try to reprogram it? Did you have to do anything else (coding or error
clearing for example) after to get everything working after?
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Just saw your other post on another thread. So do I think I should do the same or does it
really matter that the VIN is not assigned?
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2004 530i

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12-13-2010, 09:01 AM #5

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TCU was replaced by BMW a while back but it looks like they didn`t programme the vin
no. to the module, just wanted to make sure everything was coded correctly. I did get
some errors come up but they cleared after I shut down and restarted the car, I will need
to do a diagnosis with DIS at some point to clear the error memories.

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01-05-2011, 09:41 AM #6

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Where does it get the updated 'files' to update your ecu? What can be updated with this?
Sorry to ask the dumb questions.

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01-07-2011, 03:54 PM #7

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Dsc
If I need to flash my E82 DSC, what ECU should I choose?

From where I can find the correct model? DSC60, DSC89, DSC87, etc

Thanks,

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01-07-2011, 09:07 PM #8

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Use INPA. Choose your car, then pick "functional jobs" and then "Read UIF". Write down
the line with the DCS. It should look like this:
Code:
-----------------------------------------------------
ADR Gen. name JobStatus ZB No. VIN No. Date
[other stuff]
29 DSC OKAY 6775387 KS32642 28.04.2006
[other stuff]

Now close INPA and Open WinKFP. Assuming you've copied all the DATEN files over as
per the guide in this post, you should be able to select "Comfort Mode" then "Enter
ZUSB". Enter the ZB Number and it will find the module associated with that number.
Write the name of the module down (it is DSC90 for the ZB number above), hit cancel,
and then select "Update ZUSB". Now select the ECU you wrote down from the first list
then hit OK. Next select "Enter VIN" and enter your VIN (don't mess this up. It's bad
news. Ask me how I know). Now select "Done" then select "Prog. ZB-Update". Now it'll
read your current ZB and tell you what it needs to be updated to. If they are the same,
then don't bother, otherwise, hit OK and follow the prompts.

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01-10-2011, 02:32 AM #9

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Originally Posted by Gene Poole

Use INPA. Choose your car, then pick "functional jobs" and then "Read UIF". Write
down the line with the DCS. It should look like this:
Code:
-----------------------------------------------------
ADR Gen. name JobStatus ZB No. VIN No. Date
[other stuff]
29 DSC OKAY 6775387 KS32642 28.04.2006
[other stuff]

Now close INPA and Open WinKFP. Assuming you've copied all the DATEN files over as
per the guide in this post, you should be able to select "Comfort Mode" then "Enter
ZUSB". Enter the ZB Number and it will find the module associated with that number.
Write the name of the module down (it is DSC90 for the ZB number above), hit cancel,
and then select "Update ZUSB". Now select the ECU you wrote down from the first list
then hit OK. Next select "Enter VIN" and enter your VIN (don't mess this up. It's bad
news. Ask me how I know). Now select "Done" then select "Prog. ZB-Update". Now it'll
read your current ZB and tell you what it needs to be updated to. If they are the same,
then don't bother, otherwise, hit OK and follow the prompts.

Thanks,

I already made this steps, but after I hit "Prog. ZB-Update", WinKFP tell me about

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missing info about my ZB number.

My module has 67878xx and it seams that is missing from my files.

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01-10-2011, 07:42 AM #10

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Does winkfp tell you the ecu family (DSC60, DSC89,etc)? If the UIF is messed up, you
should still be able to flash it if you know the latest revision for the ecu family. This info is
in the files in the "data" directory (i.e. c:\ec-apps\nfs\data\dsc90\dsc90.hwh, dsc90.dat,
and dsc90.his). I'm not really sure how to parse these files yet, but you can probably use
them to figure out the missing numbers from your ZB-NBR.

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01-10-2011, 11:22 AM #11

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The UIF is OK.

My DSC data is like this:

BM number 6787837

dsc81 hw 01829h0

phiscal hw 6785575

The WinKFP tell abot can not find data in ''konv.tmp'' into one file that I forget, now.

I also search through all DATA to find anything related to 6787837 and I find nothing.
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01-10-2011, 12:35 PM #12

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Originally Posted by trigital

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The UIF is OK.

My DSC data is like this:

BM number 6787837

dsc81 hw 01829h0

phiscal hw 6785575

The WinKFP tell abot can not find data in ''konv.tmp'' into one file that I forget, now.

I also search through all DATA to find anything related to 6787837 and I find nothing.

I find 6787837 in the DSC81 directory for both V32 daten and V39 daten. For V32, it
shows that as the latest, but V39 shows a later revision of 6789301

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01-11-2011, 03:27 AM #13

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Originally Posted by Gene Poole

I find 6787837 in the DSC81 directory for both V32 daten and V39 daten. For V32, it
shows that as the latest, but V39 shows a later revision of 6789301

You are right!

My konv.tmp was not OK.

I will try again.

Do you know if the SZL can accept a new coding if is second hand with a differnt VIN?

Thank you!

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01-11-2011, 08:02 AM #14

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Not sure about that. I know that I messed up my MRS with the wrong VIN in WinKFP

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(apparently the MRS stores the whole VIN and not just the last 7) and it refused to work
at all (and set codes for every sensor in the MRS system) and subsequent tries with
WinKFP with the right number failed (trying to write the same ZB--might have worked if I
"downgraded" the ZB but I didn't try). I fixed it with SSS Progman by following the
"Replace ECU" menus.

I've been poking around with Tool32 and that might be the best non-SSS way to change
VINs.

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02-26-2011, 12:55 AM #15

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Hay guys i have a 2010 bmw 750i f01 model. and i have replace three modules, need
help how to change vin number on them. thanks

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02-26-2011, 11:36 PM #16

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take it to your dealer, that car should still be under warranty, no?

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02-27-2011, 04:57 PM #17

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I tried and the warranty is void do to salvage title.

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03-02-2011, 01:27 AM #18

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Does anyone know where i can find WinKFP showed in the screenshot? 5.1 in english

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03-02-2011, 04:50 AM #19

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It's in the INPA 5.0 package. The installer included the executable only though. You have
to get the appropriate data files from one of the progman releases (the later the better).

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03-04-2011, 02:13 AM #20

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Thanks for the screenshots, curious to know. I cannot find ecu update modules for DME
on 2007 E90.

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03-04-2011, 02:18 AM #21

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Originally Posted by StudieJP

Thanks for the screenshots, curious to know. I cannot find ecu update modules for DME
on 2007 E90.

What exactly are you asking? And what kind of E90 do you have? There were several
types of engines used in the E90

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03-04-2011, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TerraPhantm

What exactly are you asking? And what kind of E90 do you have? There were several
types of engines used in the E90

In the menu where you pick the ECU files, I only see DDE no DME.
I have MSV80 2.5L 325i N52. I notice I cannot update my FRM either, I do not see FRM87
only FRM2 or 3.

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03-04-2011, 08:02 AM #23

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Originally Posted by StudieJP

In the menu where you pick the ECU files, I only see DDE no DME.
I have MSV80 2.5L 325i N52. I notice I cannot update my FRM either, I do not see
FRM87 only FRM2 or 3.

Try importing the assembly line files for the E89 again. It should all be there

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03-04-2011, 12:22 PM #24

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Originally Posted by TerraPhantm

Try importing the assembly line files for the E89 again. It should all be there

Could possibly be that I am using a older version of winKFP. I will try that updating
assembly line files.

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03-17-2011, 01:37 PM #25

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When it says "enter vin" - do you enter the full vin (17 digits)?

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