Vacuum 2012

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Disclaimers

• We are not experts....We have done the


research and put together a few systems and
finished many bowl bottoms

• We are open to any suggestions, comments,


or questions (write them on the back of a $20.00 bill and
submit them)

• We don’t have all the answers: But these


systems work for us and are much cheaper!
Cautions!!

While turning under vacuum

• Don’t turn through your work


• A severe catch while turning can cause a serious
problem
• Soft or punque wood may not hold vacuum pressure
• Thin walls can collapse under vacuum pressure
• Porous wood grain can allow air to be drawn in (Oak)
reducing the amount of vacuum
• A power disruption of the vacuum pump while lathe is
running is dangerous - or turning the pump off before
stopping the lathe (For additional info ask Peter!)
• Turn at a lower than normal speed
Vacuum Chuck Systems Built

! Jet Mini
! Jet 1642
! Delta Midi
! Powermatic 3520A
! Powermatic 3520B
! Powermatic 4224
Vacuum Systems Currently
Available From Retail Outlets

!
Gast Vacuum Pump $375.00 to $445.00

Vacuum Rotary Adapter $55.00 to $100.00

Gauge Kit $85.00 to $100.00
!
3 1/2” Vacuum Cylinders $70.00 to $75.00
(Aluminum)

Total $580.00 to $720.00


!

Plus the addition of hoses, fittings and filters


The Bruised Brothers System

• Vacuum Pump (Used Estimate) $75 to $125


• Lamp Rod $5 to $10
• Bearing x 2 $10 to $15
• Vacuum Gauge $15 to $20
• Vacuum Valves (2 ea) $10 to $20
• Filter $15 to $20
• Vacuum Hose $5 to $10
• Miscellaneous Hardware $25 to $40
!
Total $160 to $260
Types of Vacuum Pumps

• Diaphragm Pumps
• Piston Pumps
• Rotary Vane pumps
• Oil bath Pumps
• Refrigerant Pumps
• Venturi pumps
• Vacuum Cleaners
Diaphragm Pumps

• Ideal for Some Vacuum Systems


• Often used in Vacuum Clamping
• Fairly low CFM Rating - 1 to 3 CFM Typical
• Very Reliable
• Can be purchased used and are relatively inexpensive
Diaphragm Pump

1.9 CFM
Piston Pump

• Not as quiet as a Diaphragm Pump


• Common in Vacuum Clamping
• Higher CFM output - 2 to 5 CFM Typical
• Higher CFM good for woodturning
Piston Pumps
5.5 CFM @ 25” Hg

1.75 CFM @ 29” Hg


Rotary Vane Pumps

• Very Common - Found in most woodturning catalogs


• Generally maintenance free
• Good CFM Rating - 2 to 10 Typical
• Long life
• Tend to get hot with extended usage
• Very often used in woodturning
Rotary Vane pumps

2.6 CFM @ 25” Hg

4.5 CFM @ 25” Hg


220 Volt
Oil Bath Pumps

• Used by the air conditioning industry


• Good CFM range - 2 to 6 CFM Typical
• Designed to pull moisture out of AC units
• Need to keep lubricated with fresh oil
Refrigerator Pumps

• Very Quiet
• Very low CFM - Typically less than 1 CFM
• Large and Bulky
• Hard to make connections
• Watch for Freon in the system
• Not recommended for woodturning
Venturi Pumps

• Some are very low cost


• Needs a large compressor to operate
• Compressor must supply 4.5 CFM @ 90 psi
• Not portable because of the compressor
• Reliability relays on the compressor
Vacuum Cleaner as a Pump

• Not Recommended
• Designed to run with air flow through them
• Expensive to replace
• High CFM but low Vacuum Hg
• Only able to get 6 - 7 Hg
• Hard to adapt to the lathe
Build a Rotary Adapter
Parts list

• Block of wood 2 1/2 x 2 1/2 x 4 approximately (or appropriate material)


• Two Bearings 1621-DS ( 2 bearings better than 1 )
• Brass Hose Barb - 1/2” Barb x 1/4”NPT
• Lamp Rod ( Length determined by lathe )
** For 2 bearings adjust to about 1 inch
This design for Powermatic
Adjust to fit your lathe

About 1 3/4 for 2 bearings 1 3/4” Minimum


Lock 2 nuts together on
lamp rod and epoxy into
adapter
Complete Bearing adapter
with one bearing
#2 Morse Taper to fit
head stock
Headstock assembly with
on/off valve
Commercial Vacuum Adapter

http://www.jtturningtools.com
Easy to make PVC Chucks
One thing we learned
!
Don’t use MDF
Vacuum Pressure Guide
Contact
Diameter in 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
inches

Vacuum HG Pounds of Pressure


2.5 15 24 35 47 62 78 96 117 139 163 189 217 247
5 31 48 69 94 123 156 193 233 278 326 378 434 494
7.5 46 72 104 142 185 234 289 350 416 489 567 651 740
10 62 96 139 189 247 312 386 467 555 652 756 868 987
12.5 77 121 174 236 309 390 482 583 694 815 945 1085 1234
15 93 145 208 283 370 469 578 700 833 978 1134 1302 1481
17.5 108 169 243 331 432 547 675 817 972 1141 1323 1518 1728
20 123 193 278 378 494 625 771 933 1111 1303 1512 1735 1974
22.5 139 217 312 425 555 703 868 1050 1249 1466 1701 1952 2221
25 154 241 347 472 617 781 964 1167 1388 1629 1890 2169 2468

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