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20070207 – Carl Kaufmann wrote that he looked for a solution for a computer with an Intel chip set
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I thought I was having this problem, but that isn't the case. My BIOS listed Ultra DMA as being EDN.com
disabled on all my drives. I looked for the Advanced Settings tabs for the IDE channels in more
Device Manager, but the tabs were no longer there. I ran Nero InfoTool, which confusingly
listed DMA on for primary and secondary masters, but off for primary and secondary slaves.
After doing some more searching, I found out that the Intel Application Accelerator I recently Who's new
installed is the culprit. Running Intel Application Accelerator confirmed that everything was OK.
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The trap
Windows contains a trap in which quite a few computers seem to get caught sooner or later. The trap dslater
was described in a Web article whose link no longer works (and also in another one mentioned below):
The crucial paragraphs are:
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PIO mode is enabled by default in the following situations: There are currently 1 user and 24
... guests online.
For repeated DMA errors. Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a device after encountering
certain errors during data transfer operations. If more that six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Online users
Windows will turn off DMA and use only PIO mode on that device. admin
In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only option for the user who
wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and reinstall the device.
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errors. Whenever possible, the operating system will step down one UDMA mode at a time
(from UDMA mode 4 to UDMA mode 3, and so on).
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Of course, drive firmware being quite complex and certainly containing programming defects of its
own, it is not all that difficult to produce such errors. In my case a scratched DVD and later also an
unreadable (overburned) CD did the trick, got the drive to choke and Windows to disable DMA for
good. Later my hard disk hiccupped just once and also went back to PIO for good.
I had been using my laptop for DVD viewing for years, until I inserted a borrowed and heavily scratched
DVD. The player and apparently even the DVD drive choked on it, and when I finally got the DVD to
play, I found that playing was jerky and processor load was 100%, roughly half of which was system
overhead.
This indicated that the drive had reverted from the usual UDMA (Ultra Direct Memory Access) mode 2
to PIO (Programmed Input Output) mode. No amount of resetting or changing the relevant registry
parameters from 1 (try DMA) to 2 (force DMA) helped. Stubbornly the drive kept using PIO mode, and
Windows even changed these settings back to 0 (use PIO only).
The following text will refer to the secondary IDE port because that is more often affected, but
essentially the same also holds for the primary IDE port, to which the main hard disk is connected in
most computers.
Before you begin to work on the problem, log on as Administrator or as a user with administrator
rights.
Check Your IDE Port Mode
First check what mode your secondary IDE port is currently working in. Go to Device Manager: right
click on My Computer, select Properties, click on the Hardware tag, click on the Device Manager
button, click on the plus sign to the left of IDE ATA/ATAPI Controller, doubleclick on the secondary
IDE channel, click on Extended Settings and check whether it is set to DMA when available. Directly
underneath that setting is a grey field that shows the actual working mode of your IDE channel. You
want the highest possible DMA or Ultra DMA mode there, and you definitely don't want PIO mode.
If the Extended Settings tab is not there, perhaps another driver is used, probably from the
manufacturer of the IDE ATAPI controller. You can still perform a simple test. In the Task Manager
activate the option View, Show kernel times. Then put a high load on the device, for example by
copying a large file, and check whether the kernel times are minimal (red line). If you observe
considerable kernel times, roughly around half of the total load, then the device is running in PIO
mode, which is bad. The whole purpose of the DMA mode is to relieve the processor (in kernel mode)
of this load.
Assuming the Microsoft IDE ATAPI driver, normally you don't have to use the registry editor, because
the normal settings are also available through the properties dialog for the IDE port, but if you want to
look at it anyway, the parameter for the secondary IDE port can be found through regedit.exe at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\Scsi\Scsi Port 1
It is named Scsi only for historic reasons. Scsi Port 0 is the primary IDE port, to which presumably
your hard disk is connected.
After trying various remedies—in vain—I found the abovementioned article and went to work again. I
uninstalled the DVD drive in Device Manager and rebooted, but that did not help either.
So I searched for more and better information, then I went on and did the following.
Reenable DMA using the Registry Editor
This chapter describes the manual way to do what the quick solution at the top of this page does
automatically through a script program. If you're not interested in the details, you can back up to the
chapter "Quick solution" above and run the script.
My thanks go to my fellow MVP Alexander Grigoriev who taught me this method.
Run REGEDIT. Go to the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E96AE32511CE
BFC108002BE10318}
It has subkeys like 0000, 0001, 0002, etc. Normally 0001 is the primary IDE channel, 0002 the
secondary, but other numbers can occur under certain circumstances. You have to go through these
subkeys and check the DriverDesc value until you find the proper IDE channel.
Delete MasterIdDataChecksum or SlaveIdDataChecksum, depending on whether the device in
question is attached as master or slave, but it can't actually hurt to delete both. Reboot. The drive
DMA capabilities will be redetected.
Note that many CD and DVD drives only use UDMA2, because their data rate is much lower than
that of a hard disk. This is normal and no reason to worry.
20060119 – Horst Schülke wrote that it is sufficient to empty the content of these values. But you
can also delete the values entirely. Windows will automatically recreate them anyway, with new
content.
Open Device Manager again and check whether the device is now actually using DMA mode. If so,
congratulations, you've made it (at least until the next time Windows disables DMA). If not, you may
have to change the IDE channel setting from PIO back to the highest available DMA mode and reboot
again.
Many thanks to Tomáš Souček, Peter Götz, Alex Vaillant, and Cory Culbertson for piecing together
the following information:
There are three keys that work together:
MasterDeviceTimingMode
MasterDeviceTimingModeAllowed
UserMasterDeviceTimingModeAllowed
Each bit in these values means a transfer mode that the device may or may not be capable of.
Somewhere at MS some of these bits can be looked up.
MasterDeviceTimingMode:
This is the actual mode the device is running at.
MasterDeviceTimingModeAllowed:
This entry may be the problem child. Peter wrote: "Normally not present in XP, it is created as
a reaction to errors. This entry has absolute priority." However, there are doubts whether this
is the absolute truth. It is still not entirely clear where this entry comes from. Erasing it or
setting it to a DWORD value of 0xFFFFFFFF, rebooting, reenabling DMA mode, and
rebooting again seems to have solved the problem in some cases.
UserMasterDeviceTimingModeAllowed:
This entry contains the user's setting, manually entered in the advanced device properties.
Has the same structure as MasterDeviceTimingMode. This entry appears when the user sets
a limited mode manually, such as PIO only.
Another key that seems to create the problem is MasterIdDataChecksum.
All these parameters also exist for the slave drive as SlaveDeviceTimingMode, etc.
More information is needed. If you know anything, please click on Add new comment at the end of this
article and write it down.
Alternative Method—Uninstalling the Port
1. Uninstall the secondary IDE port
To do that, open Device Manager as follows. Rightclick on My Computer, select Properties, click on
the Hardware tag, click on the Device Manager button, click on the plus sign to the left of IDE
ATA/ATAPI Controller, rightclick on Secondary IDE Channel, click on Uninstall. Deactivating is not
enough.
Reboot to make the changes active and permanent.
After booting Windows will automatically reinstall the IDE channel and the DVD (or CD) drive. This
PlugnPlay process can take a little while, so give it a minute after the boot process finishes.
2. Check or reactivate DMA
But this may not always be not enough, because unfortunately Windows does not always
automatically activate DMA on a DVD or CD drive. You have to check and, if necessary, tell Windows
to try to use DMA first. It is possible that Windows XP with Service Pack 2 reenables DMA
automatically on reboot, but I have not tested this yet.
To reenable DMA, go to Device Manager again. Rightclick on My Computer, select Properties, click
on the Hardware tag, click on the Device Manager button, click on the plus sign to the left of IDE
ATA/ATAPI Controller, doubleclick on the secondary IDE channel, click on Extended Settings and
change the relevant setting from PIO only to DMA when available.
On Windows NT and 2000 you now have to reboot a second time, but Windows XP applies the
change instantly. Then you can go to the same place in Device Manager again and check whether the
device is now actually using DMA mode. If so, all is well.
Note that many CD and DVD drives only use UDMA2, because their data rate is much lower than
that of a hard disk. This is normal and no reason to worry.
3. Driver is not intended for this platform
If you keep getting the following error message, please read on:
There is a problem installing this hardware.
IDE channel
An error occurred during the installation of the device. Driver is not intended for this platform.
20050330 – Johannes B. wrote: The reason for this error is often that Daemon Tools or Alcohol 120%
are installed. In this case the solution described below would not work. But when you uninstall these
programs and then restart Windows, it will then install the device drivers without any further problems.
If these programs are not installed, then one possible way out is to rename C:\WINDOWS\system32
\drivers\atapi.sys (or a similar path on your computer) to something like atapi.old.
If that's not possible, you can try it from the repair console (boot from the Windows install CD and
select the repair console).
If Windows always automatically recreates atapi.sys, you can try renaming it in safe mode or from a
command line window or you can try to rename or remove it in the driver cache as well.
Desensitize Your Computer's IDE Channels
There's a bit more to it. The following article offers a way to reduce the incidence of this problem,
although it still doesn't solve it altogether.
IDE ATA and ATAPI Disks Use PIO Mode After Multiple TimeOut or CRC Errors Occur
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817472/
Do read this article because it contains a useful longterm workaround. But you have to go through the
procedure described here to reenable DMA first.
Assuming you've done that, insert the ResetErrorCountersOnSuccess registry values mentioned in
this article into both the primary and the secondary IDE port registry keys as described.
Unfortunately this is only a half solution, because when you enter an unreadable DVD, you will get 6
errors in a row, and the IDE channel will revert to PIO mode, but at least when you pull out the DVD in
time and then insert a good one, the error counter will be reset and it will at least be a bit more difficult
for Windows to hobble your IDE drive.
A little warning: One user reported that by mistakenly putting the value into the parent key, rather than
into one of the 0000, 0001, 0002, etc., subkeys, he was accused by Microsoft's Genuine Advantage
check of using a pirated copy of Windows and therefore denied online updates.
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doesnt work
Mon, 20080929 17:47 — msteel
the quick is not available i get a message saying it doesnt work!
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Problem kept coming back
Thu, 20080925 04:02 — dmcscorp
It turns out that rebooting my computer was temporarilly fixing the stuttering problem I was having.
The actual culprit was mcshield.exe. That evil little program was hijacking 99% of my cpu on a
steady cycle. I installed AVG Antivirus free, uninstalled McAfee Antivirus (which worked fine for 2
years) and everything seems good again.
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Seems to work great
Wed, 20080924 17:38 — dmcscorp
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I was at a complete loss for the past few days then I came
across your site and I can now listen to music, watch my porn, browse and type without any
problems. I was getting ready to scrap everything and start all over. If this lasts for the next few
days I will definitely make a donation to the cause. You people rock!
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Thanks for reporting
Wed, 20080924 19:01 — admin
It's good to hear about successes. The problem is still at large, so this web site keeps being
needed.
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Reenabling DMA
Fri, 20080919 14:10 — john1951
Playing through my laptop's DVD/CD reader has been exhibiting exactly the symptoms that this
help note addresses; that is stuttering on sound and vision on playing all dvds/cds, yet ripped and
played from the hard drive or direct streaming worked fine. I have been homing in on the PIO/DMA
issue described in the note for some time as it was the only analysis that seemed to make any
sense, but the fix of uninstalling the secondary IDE channel didn't have any affect. However, I
eventually spotted that device 1 on the primary IDE channel was stuck in PIO and ran the quick fix
rather than the step by step approach. This solved the problem. Many thanks for the problem
analysis and solution.
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Thanks for reporting
Fri, 20080919 19:32 — admin
Yes, the quick fix is very convenient and safe. It can also be repeated quickly, should the
problem crop up again.
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PIO to DMA solution
Tue, 20080902 17:18 — djuro bojic
People, I have tried a lot of stuff to fix it and the best solution was straight in front of my eyes!!!!
Just uninstall drivers of the DVD/CD ROM device and reboot the computer. When it starts again it
will install the drivers automatically and return to DMA mode by itself!!!!
I was so stupid, messing with Registry etc.
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Yes, that works
Tue, 20080902 17:44 — admin
As described in the article. But the easiest and quickest fix is still the little "Quick solution"
program described at the top.
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FINALLY fixed! Switch primary with secondary IDE cables!!
Fri, 20080815 20:25 — ripples
Wow, after many hours I finally have a fix for my PIOonly Maxtor hard drive. I think this actually all
started when I reformatted and installed Windows XP again. So I have been living with this
chronically and just have gotten used to it.
Anyway, I tried everythingthe vb code didn't allow me to boot up (expected since my HD was the
only one), uninstalling the IDE drivers didn't work, updating drivers didn't do anything, trying to
install the microsoft fixes didnt do anything, manually toggling from PIO to DMA if availble, etc etc
etc.
The thing that finally worked was switching my hard drive from the primary IDE to the secondary
IDE. (and my CDR and DVD which were on secondary now are on primary) After booting up this
simple fix instantly corrected the problem and now I'm running at DMA 5. By the way, if people are
looking for an easy way to check HD performance, there is a freeware program called "HD Tune"
(search google) that works really well. It also can check for physical damage.
Anyway, thanks for the ideas here and hopefully if someone has a problem similar to mine they
can try cable swapping and not go through that incredible hassle.
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Check cables, etc.
Fri, 20080815 22:16 — admin
Thanks for reporting back! Your solution, though perhaps working well, is not quite
satisfactory, because it leaves the nagging question whether something may still be wrong
with the primary IDE channel. It could be the cable or one of the plugs. It could be a wrong
masterslave jumper position. It could be an improper sequence on the cable.
In theory the master device has to have the masterslave jumper plugged into the master
position, and it has to be connected to the end connector of the data cable. A slave device, if
present, has to have the masterslave jumper in the slave position and be connected to the
middle connector on the cable.
But then I've seen all kinds of odd problems that were fixed by merely swapping something
around. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if you put everything back to how it was before, and it
would keep working just fine. (No guarantees though.) If you feel like it, you could try. If indeed
it worked, I would suspect a poor contact that was fixed by the corrosion cleaning friction of
pulling and replugging the contacts.
But it could still be something else, and you could have found the best solution.
Thanks also for the HD Tune hint.
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Another one saved...
Fri, 20080815 18:08 — dugger
Another time your post saved a poor man looking for a solution!! In my case, everything started
with a friend of mine telling me his windows xp has a crackling sound. I took a look at this pc, and
found with Process Explorer that the Hardware Interrupts were taking a lot of CPU Kernel time,
and everything was slowed down to pain. Reading a tons of web pages and forums, I found no
solutions. I started haunting the device which driver would be the responsible of the interrupts cpu
hard work, but with no luck. Fortunately I found your post, and checked immediately that the ATA
primary device (the one with the OS disk on it!) was running in PIO mode!! Aha! Found it!! And
your quick solution, the vb script worked great way! Now everything is back ok!
Thank you very much. Your the right one!!
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Thanks for reporting back
Fri, 20080815 20:23 — admin
Thanks to everyone above and below for reporting the good things!
Yes, the VB script is a very quick solution. Should the problem reappear one day, you can
quickly repeat the procedure.
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thank you
Fri, 20080801 02:49 — fuzzy monsters
thank you so much
this has been the bane of my existence for the past two weeks, the lag issues in photoshop CS3
have also been solved
thank you thank you
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Big Thankyou!!!
Fri, 20080718 17:20 — lxsed
Microsoft never ceases to amaze.... ;(
Thank you for this clear and most helpful advice.
Details:
A week ago, experienced drastic systemwide slowdown, preceded by no outof ordinary event.
Spent two days staright monitoring processes, scanning for viruses, spyware, defragmenting,
cleaningup, loosing sleep and tearing hair out in clumps no results.
I have alredy decided to wipe the system and rebuild from scratch, and would have done so, were
I not to stumble across this article.
Primary IDE controller Master disk with Boot partition(Win XP) sure enough PIO!
Manually applied the registry changes.
Rebooted.
Back to UDMA5!
Whatever the primary cause of the switch to PIO may have been..... .....surface scan of the
Master disk passed OK, so I can sleep well again.
Alex
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Trap still open
Fri, 20080718 18:59 — admin
Yes, the trap is still wide open and catching victims in numbers that are hard to imagine. Glad
you got out.
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DMA falling back to PIO
Fri, 20080711 09:06 — joe909001
I did this using the manual method. It worked a treat. Thanks very much. I can now keep the rest
of my hair. What bit i've got. Thanks again.
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Glad to hear
Fri, 20080711 10:27 — admin
I keep wondering how many computer users never find out and just live with a crippled
computer.
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Resetting checksum fixed me symptom was stuttering audio
Fri, 20080711 02:18 — FredMay
My symptom was stuttering choppy audio and video on my laptop playing files located on my hard
drive. The problem just appeared, although there was an unusual BSOD that had happened in the
recent history. Reinstalled audio drivers, media player, motherboard drivers, removed unused
programs, uninstalled Norton Antivirus, reloaded codecs, and much much more all to no avail.
Spent days of work. I did not want to send the laptop to the repair depot for them to reformat my
drive and reload Windows, which would have solved the problem. Then I finally noticed that the
disk was using PIO and wondered why it was not DMA. I was not sure at all which was better. My
first Google search found this page. I found the registry count Checksum was high and reset it to
zero. Next reboot, the drive automatically chose DMA, not PIO. The audio and video stutter was
completely fixed!. Thank you kindly. I am now considering that there may still be a looming
problem with the hard drive, and might be well advised to image a replacement drive. Thanks again!
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Thanks for reporting!
Fri, 20080711 07:18 — admin
Nice success story. Thanks!
Just observe the drive's behavior over time. If it keeps falling back to PIO, then there's
something wrong. It may well be the drive, but it could also be the data cable connectors or
the controller on the motherboard.
But maybe it behaves from now on and all is well.
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WARNING for DeepFreeze users
Mon, 20080630 02:25 — Spsp1981
A little of history first, I came to this thread while looking for possible
causes/solutions to a sound playback problem. Whenever I tried to listen to music /
watch a video, the system slowed down. Using Process Explorer, I found out that it
was because of "Interrupts" (Hardware interrupts) taking up the CPU. When I read
this post, seemed a good possible cause, I checked my devices properties and one
of my hard disk was in PIO mode. So that, I tried the registry fix explained, but after
rebooting my 3 hard disks and the DVD drive were detected as new hardware. Suddenly, after the
last drive was installed, my display turned off (Power saving mode) and the system stopped
responding. As this has happened to me before due to a problem with the nVidia VGA driver, I
rebooted in VGA mode but a BAD_POOLER_[something] BSOD (some other messages also
appeared, many of them didn't even mention a cause) prevented me from trying anything. Luckly
Safe mode did work and after a serie of try and error tests, I find out that DeepFreeze was the
problem. Seems that DeepFreeze does not consider the hard disk to be the same after
redetection. So, after several research and tries and errors, I was able to make my PC work again
and here I explain how:
If you have DeepFreeze Standard installed, probably you entered in thawed mode to make
the changes. The problem comes when you try to restart the PC, new IDE channels and
HDs are detected but the PC no longer works showing some BSODs and/or the display
turns off a few seconds after loading the desktop (Exactly when the DF's tray icon should
appear). There are only 2 options I can advice, first one is the obvious one: uninstall DF
prior to making this fixes. Second one is when IT'S TOO LATE: here's an article that
explains how to manually remove DF without reformating your computer:
http://usuarios.arnet.com.ar/fliamarconato/pages/etutorial6.html
"NOTE: I'm not responsible and/or affiliated to the above mentioned site and tutorial. I just
luckily found it."
Thanks
Mon, 20080630 09:26 — admin
Thanks for this important information!
Installing questionable software, particularly software that intrudes deeply into the operating
system, can cause serious, sometimes intractable problems.
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Excellent
Thu, 20080626 14:23 — macHelp
Clear
Concise
Accurate
If only all info was even half as good !
Thanks.
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Thank You, Thank You, Thank You ! ! !
Thu, 20080522 09:34 — greenylad
Have spent days trying to find out why my system was slow and any media playback was very
stuttering and poor. used this to find that my primary IDE was in PIO, ran the simple script and
hey presto, all is fine and it's back in DMA 5 ultra.
What a fatastic site.
Book marked for future and a small donation on it's way :) :)
Peter
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You are the Mannn!
Sun, 20080511 16:24 — amircoh28
Thank you so much. you helped me a lot.
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You are awesome
Tue, 20080422 02:05 — immortalsuby
I love you.
I spent hours upon hours, combined with months of a slow hard drive, trying to isolate and fix this
problem. Your page told me exactly how to solve it and it worked great. DMA 5 again!
forgot to add...
Donation sent. Thanks again! :D
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thank you so so much!!! i am
Sun, 20080420 07:11 — soadserj
thank you so so much!!! i am so happy i can finally watch DVDs again!!! i sent you a little
donation. i wish i could afford more, but you guys still are the best!
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DMA is back!!!
Thu, 20080410 03:04 — dc9driver
Nice little script!!! Did the trick perfectly. A little donation coming your way :)
Thanks.
LJ
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Thank you all!
Thu, 20080410 16:00 — admin
A little donation is, of course, always very welcome.
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For those with the ALi M5229 IDE Controller
Sun, 20080330 16:36 — Arran
Occasionally a chip set or controller driver is buggy, so check with the manufacturer for
updates.
20070301 – Francois Eraud reports one such case in a Sony laptop, regarding an ALI
M5229 chip set controller, solved with driver version 4.008.
I spent ages suffering with choppy sound playback within windows and it seemed to be due to
hard drive activity.. I wasn't wrong, I tried an older smaller hard drive and it jumped straight in to
dma mode.. My new 160gb drive was stuck in pio (pio has high cpu usage which was resulting in
my chopping sounds)... So I did a search and found this site... Helped me out loads...
Anyway mine was due to the chipset as said above in the quotation... I managed to hunt down
these VERY rare drivers....
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~leeey/a7a266/IDE4008.exe
If you're concerned about downloading a random file from some randomer then here is all the
details...
http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~leeey/a7a266/
I believe this will sort the problem for those with the ALi M5229 IDE Controller... Doesnt matter
what brand of computer you have.
Thanks
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ALI M5229 responsible for DMA failing to PIO for Samsung drive
Sun, 20080511 15:10 — GigiDuru
I newly bought a Samsung 160GB drive on an old system as a secondary drive. It failed from
the very beginning to PIO, with the following errors shown in system log (event viewer):
Event Type: Error
Event Source: atapi
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
Date: 5/11/2008
Time: 5:02:49 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SUNSHINE
Description:
The device, \Device\Ide\IdePort2, did not respond within the timeout period.
And yes, Arran, you were right.
I first tried the registry modifications, but it did not work. Of course, all the HW testing was
tried as well (moving/changing between IDE cables, and so on...).
This (http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~leeey/a7a266/IDE4008.exe) did the trick. It is a rare
drive, indeed :)
THanks a lot!
Bye,
Gigi
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Thanks a lot for these finds
Sun, 20080330 18:25 — admin
This is very useful information for users with this controller chip.
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THANK YOU!!! :D
Mon, 20080324 19:28 — WilhelmR
THANK YOU!!! :D
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DMA Reset
Fri, 20080314 00:09 — efabrizio
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. Worked like a charm !
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Thanks for reporting back!
Fri, 20080314 10:45 — admin
Glad it worked.
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Amazing
Sun, 20080309 09:04 — Gremlin
It's been so long since I'd even looked at HDD modes that it never occured to me to check if it was
in PIO mode or not, I checked and hey presto, there it was, in PIO mode. After reading your post
fully, I used one of your suggestions, (removal of offending drive in the Registry) rebooted, and now
it's now no longer in PIO mode, its DMA Mode 6.
Thank you, as in the previous posters case, you saved me buying a new HDD.
:)
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You're welcome
Sun, 20080309 10:11 — admin
If you like, you can donate a small fraction of the money earmarked for the new drive here
(see "Donations" at the top).
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Thank you
Sun, 20080224 22:58 — chernobyl
Hi, I just wanted to say thanks. This article actually saved me from buying a new hard disk!
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Nice to hear this
Sun, 20080224 23:22 — admin
Thanks for reporting back!
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DMA reverts to PIO
Mon, 20080211 17:20 — tippy
I had this problem and it turned out to be a failing DVD burner, which gave up the ghost this
morning...In it's final death throes, it came up with CRC errors.Good idea to swap out any drive on
a channel that starts acting flaky.Hope this helps someone.
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Hardware error
Mon, 20080211 18:48 — admin
Thanks! This is a good reminder that recurring errors and recurring fallback to PIO can
indicate a hardware error.
DVD drives fail fairly often, hard disks also fail sometimes. Cables can break, contacts can
work themselves loose, and even controller chips occasionally fail.
All of these failures can lead to PIO fallback.
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Thank you, It solved a problem ...
Fri, 20080201 10:48 — dmpriso
with a Dell Inspiron Notebook and Windows XP. It was extremely slow and stuttering, and
according to Process Explorer, "Hardware Interrupts" were consuming lots of CPU time especially
when accessing the harddisk.
Your script helped.
But it's interesting the notebook does have a builtin intel SATA controller for the HD, but
resetting the PIO mode for the Primary IDE Channel helped, or does your script reset the PIO
mode for all devices?
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Script resets all channels
Fri, 20080201 12:04 — admin
Glad it worked for you.
Yes, the script resets all channels. Since this is a harmless operation, it is easiest and best
to reset all of them.
You can download the script and look at it. It is a relatively simple Visual Basic Script
program that goes through the registry and removes certain settings.
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Thanks again, it helped a
Fri, 20080201 12:59 — dmpriso
Thanks again, it helped a lot and solved a problem I wasn't able to track down exactly for
weeks.
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PIO
Tue, 20080129 03:01 — Marieaa65
Thank you Thank you, I hit < Here> and it fix my stuttering on my D L
Dvdplayer, I have tryed to get the company I bought it from they could not figure
it out, Works so great now, sound is perfect.
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Enjoy!
Tue, 20080129 07:33 — admin
This problem is apparently hitting millions of people. Glad you could solve it.
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Still PIO
Fri, 20080118 07:48 — bert02
ok i have read everything on this page and my pioneer dvd burner 112 is still in pio
bios is enabled
i uninstall ide ata/atapi channel and it loads as pio still
tried all registry fixes, and that app still doesnt work
was working fine b4 so it has the correct cable
any other help?
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May still be a hardware error
Fri, 20080118 09:16 — admin
Cable contacts can corrode, work themselves loose or even break. Try taking the cable out
and reconnecting it to reseat the connectors. Reseat the power connector as well.
A bit more likely is that the drive itself broke. DVD burners often break too.
My bet is, if you connect a new drive with a new cable and then apply the fix, it will work.
Can you try that for a test? Borrow another drive with cable or take the computer to a shop
and let them test it?
One can never be entirely sure, because it could still be the motherboard that broke (a chip
turning sour, for example), or it could be an uncommon software problem, but I think those
causes are less likely.
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Wow, you made my day! Thanks!
Fri, 20080104 13:49 — wyldstallyns
I reinstalled my secondary IDE channel as you instructed, and you solved my problem!! I just
purchased $300.00 monitor speakers for Christmas. I was so excited to accustom my ears to
them with various CDs, but lo and behold my DVDR drive was chopping the audio to shreds.
I've been trying to find a solution for days, and your's worked! Thank you, thank you, thank you.
In fact, I created a profile here JUST so I could thank you!
Take care.
Mike
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Once you have an account,
Fri, 20080104 16:41 — admin
you might as well come back. How about the lighter side? (:)
Glad the problem could be solved.
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Thank you so much!
Fri, 20071214 02:39 — rvn
Quick solution of DMA=>PIO problem saved an urgent project. Man, I owe you money :)
Oh, I found Donations at the top right corner ))
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