Entrevista Awo IfA
Entrevista Awo IfA
Entrevista Awo IfA
Falokun: Okay, that’s good and it’s not wrong, and what I
want to do is talk about what Ifa says it’s up to. Here’s what I
want to do, this is my agenda, this is the point of the day, I
want to give you a cultural and spiritual context about how to
study Ifa, how to learn, how to proceed, and how to get better
at it. In some ways it’s really ridiculous having me teach in
Baba’s presence, because in my lifetime I will never know as
much as he does. Hopefully what I can do for him and you
and all of us is share some of my experience on how you
bridge the cultural gap so we can all end up on the same page
and move forward. I have been trying to bridge that gap for
the last twenty years. Hopefully you can learn from my
mistakes and not have to go through the trial and error
process that I went through.
So here’s the first thing I want to say. In Africa if you ask
any elder a question they won’t give you an opinion. They’ll
recite Odu (sacred scripture), they’ll recite proverbs, they
share the wisdom of the ancestors, then they might comment
on that as it relates to your specific concern. In America
everyone has an opinion about everything and that’s kind of
what we’re brought up to learn and believe. But Ifa has very
specific things to say about what it’s up to.
The first thing it says is you come to earth to develop
good character. The word for good character is iwa-pele. Are
you with me? What the heck does iwa-pele really mean? Most
Yoruba religious words are elisions of sentences shortened to
form a word embracing a concept. Iwa-pele is an elision of I
wa ope ile, I come to greet the earth. There is a whole
worldview implied by the notion that this is our job as human
beings to come and greet the earth. You greet something
when you are in relationship with it. So greeting the earth
means we have a relationship with the earth and there is
something mutually beneficial in that relationship.
The first thing Ifa is about is greeting the earth with good
character. Ifa is also about making the earth a better place
when we pass on, than it was when we arrived. Creating aye
rere, creating a good place to live or literally good earth. Aye
meaning; earth, re, meaning; good, rere meaning; good-good
implying absolutely good. Are you with me? We come to earth
to develop good character and to make the earth a better
place.
Now a key to making the earth a better place is a
fundamental belief called atunwa. In Ifa atunwa is the Ifa
concept of reincarnation. Wa means; come, atun, means;
again, I come back to earth again.
In terms of the popular notion of reincarnation Ifa is
significantly different from Middle Eastern religions. We
believe that coming to earth is a good thing and we do not try
and free ourselves from the cycle. Coming to earth is a good
thing and we do it repeatedly.
We also believe that you reincarnate within your family
lineage. We reincarnate in either the family lineage of your
father or mother. Reincarnation through your family lineage
means that to make the earth a good place is to make the
earth a good place for you and your offspring to return to.
There is a Yoruba proverb that says essentially that if you
continuously piss in your drinking water it becomes unfit to
drink. Ifa knows this because Africans live close to their
natural environment and they’re smart enough to figure that
out. Here in American we piss in our drinking water more
than any other culture in the history of life on the planet.
We’re not smart enough to figure out that doesn’t work and
now we can’t understand why we have to buy water from a
bottle. I could get on a rant about this so don’t let me get
sidetracked. It doesn’t take a lot to figure out this doesn’t
work.
The other thing is we believe as we come back through
reincarnation we have a specific destiny. Destiny in Yoruba is
ayanmo. That would translate as my ancestral tree, I think.
Ayan is a tree, mo is my. People always want to know what is
my destiny. It’s real simple. Ifa says ayanmo ni iwa-pele, iwa-
pele ni ayanmo; destiny is good character, good character is
destiny. If you are ever not sure what to do, do the right thing,
do the moral thing, do the honest thing, do the elevated thing
and you will do the right thing, absolutely. You do not come
to earth to make it a better place to beat up your loved ones.
You do not come to earth to make it a better place to deal
drugs. I am belaboring an obvious point.
I’m going to tell a story about myself. When I went to
Africa for the first time in 1989 there was very little Ifa practice
in the United States. There was Orisa, but not Ifa. I was told
they were going to test me before they initiated me, so I read
everything written in English on Ifa at the time and had the
silly mistaken notion that I knew something. I was in Africa
for less than an hour when I realized the little kids knew more
than I could every hope? Who did I think I was, and please
God don’t let them test me. Do you understand?
The thing that was most profoundly revealing to me, and
the thing that I did not understand from any of the books that
I read, and still haven’t seen written about is the fact that Ifa
is taught through the sanctification of the extended family.
What does that mean? Sanctification means deification, or
making sacred the extended family. It means everybody in the
village has a job, everybody receives spiritual training in
relationship to that job, everybody gets training to advance to
the next job and next job is incumbent on age and maturity.
Ifa is a mystery school and the school is the family. The
school is not some monastery up on the hill, it isn’t some
secret place under a cave, it’s not someplace where you read a
book and get a certificate. Ile awo ni ile; the mystery school is
the family. It is the structure of the family that is important
and eternal, not the people who fill each position at any given
moment. There is a position in the extended family in baba’s
hometown of Ile Ife called the Araba of Ile Ife. That is a
position within the extended family. That title has existed for
thousands and thousands of years. The faces who fill that
position change every thirty forty years, maybe. The body who
sits in that seat is different every few decades, but the chair,
the seat, the position, the job remains the same as does the
qualifications for holding that job, as does the expectation for
what you do in that job as does the responsibilities that come
with that job.
Let me give you one small example. Three years ago I
became a grandfather. I told people in America I became a
grandfather and people said; yeah, okay, whatever. For those
of you who have child you know the moment your child is
born your life changed forever. You can think of things that
happened to you before you had a child but you can’t feel what
it felt like not being responsible for a child. That changes your
life forever.
It changes again when you become a grandparent. You
start thinking about legacy, the future and leaving your good
name to future generations. That perspective clicks into your
brain and you are forever changed. That’s called; a rite of
passage, you become an older person. In American it was no
big deal. I hadn’t told anyone in Africa I was grandfather. The
minute I arrived in Ode Remo they treated me like babagba
not baba, grandfather not father. Baba Fatunmise will tell
you, there is a difference from the way you treat baba and the
way you treat babagba. When you are a grandparent you eat
first, you sit first, people give you a chair, and you have
certain responsibilities and privileges.
Falokun: Thank you baba, there is a reason for that I will get
to later. I want you to get the big picture. One of the easiest
things to understand in terms of the sanctification of the
extended family is that the family comes together to help
everyone go through rites of passage. When everybody is born
in the Fatunmise compound in Ile Ife they have a naming
ceremony for the baby called esentaye, meaning the foot
touches the earth. Every baby is given a ritual in which they
are introduced to the basic foods of the Yoruba diet; palm oil,
water, cola nut, pepper, honey, salt. They invoke Eji-Ogbe the
first Odu of Odu Ifa (Sacred Scripture). Eji-Ogbe speaks of
perfect alignment with the head and the heart, perfect
alignment with destiny. The baby starts life with an
invocation of its highest destiny, that’s as good as it gets. The
entire family comes together to invoke that. Divination is done
to see what that child’s destiny looks like, then that baby is
tracked in that direction.
Esu Yemi where did you grow up?
Fatumise: Yes.
Fatunmise: Oh yes.
Falokun: I may walk through the village and look like a big
Ifa priest and people will greet me and treat me like a chief,
but when I go into Ogboni the Obatala’s are the chiefs and I
prostrate to them because we are doing Obatala business. If I
need a need a knife the Ogun priest is the chief. The Araba of
Ode Remo is the senior priest in the village, when his older
sister comes into the house we all bow. It is about age and
maturity. It has nothing to do with Ifa titles it has to do with
respect for age. Right?
Fatunmise: Right.
Fatunmise: No.
Student: Yes
Falokun: Does your family have the rule that kids don’t
speak to an adult unless they are spoken to first?
Student: Indirectly.
Falokun: Thank you baba. If I say baba how are you doing,
because he is an Ifa priest he has to tell me the truth. So then
he tells me his problem, what in the heck am I going to do to
fix it? I don’t want to know. If you can fix it, don’t ask. This
is true even if they are in pain and suffering. The family is a
school with different jobs; it isn’t my job to fix the problem of
an elder. That’s his baba’s job. If his baba didn’t do his job it
isn’t my problem. Do you understand?
Now if he asks me for help, I’m there. But it has to be on
his terms. That is very alien for our cultural orientation. The
whole culture is orientated towards trying to get teenagers to
buy tennis shoes, the concept that teenagers can have
opinions that adults kunle (bow) to is the norm here. But look
at it from the other way around okay. What would you think if
someone from Ile Ife who had never been to a Western school
came to America and decided they wanted to be a brain
surgeon and walked into the hospital and interrupted the
brain surgeon while they were doing an operation and said;
show me how to do this. We would think the person was
whacked. Yet as Americans we go to Africa, we go to the
Araba of Ile Ife and we say; show me about this Ifa deal, show
me some of this stuff, this looks good. No.
I’m going to tell you a big secret, a big secret that is
worth a lot of money. I’ve made four trips to Africa and I’ve
written three books. That’s a lot of information based on four
trips. People to this day accuse me of making the stuff up,
they believe I couldn’t have possible learned all that. Baba did
I get some of it right?
Fatunmise: Oh yes.
Falokun: Here’s how I did it. The first day I was there I
figured out the family was the school and that the eight year
olds teach the six year olds and the ten year olds teach the
eight year olds, the twelve olds teach the ten year olds and I
figured out that I was in diapers. I was thirty-eight years old
and in diapers. I spent my first drip in African talking to the
nine year olds. I spent my second trip to Africa talking to the
twelve year olds. I spent my third trip to Africa talking to the
teenagers. After I did that at the end of my last trip the old
folks in Ode Remo said next time you come you can talk to us.
It took more than twelve years to get to that point.
Fatunmise: No.
Osuntokun: You don’t climb the tree from the top down.
Falokun: Exactly, you have to climb the tree from the bottom
up. Let’s review, Esu Yemi, repeat everything I’ve said for the
brother who just came in. Give him the short version.
Falokun: Let me review, the family is the school, awo ile, the
mystery school of Ifa is the extended family and the
sanctification of everybody in the family. Everybody in the
family has a job that is more or less related to some form of
initiation, as you get older your job changes, you get a new
initiation, you learn more, and you have more responsibilities.
As adults we go to Africa, we want to be treated as adults, but
in the context of the mystery school we are children. Are you
with me on that?
Here is the problem you are having I believe, you have to
help me because it’s the first time I’ve been here. That’s the
model baba is working from. That is not the model that
anyone here fully understands so you are missing each other
in terms of communication. I am going to give you some
guidelines on how to communicate with Baba.
Here is the first and most important thing, don’t ask
Baba how he’s doing, don’t do that ever. If he looks sad, angry
or annoyed, how he is doing is none of your business. It never
ever will be. He has elders back home, that’s the way it works.
So even though he’s not going to be offended if you say how
are you doing as a greeting, but if you really ask the question
how are doing expecting an answer he is not going to be a
happy camper. He is a proper Yoruba man; he is not going to
tell you he’s not a happy camper. He is just going to avoid
your question. Let’s stop wasting time over that one. If he is
doing poorly and needs your help he will tell you. You need to
really, really get it.
In baba’s uncles house, there are ninety eight children
living in the house. Six wives, all his uncles, it would be total
chaos if it were not for that rule. What happens is the oldest
mother and the oldest father get up in the morning and walk
the square courtyard and ask everyone in the house, did you
sleep well, do you have food, do you have something to do
today? Every time you meet an older person in Africa they are
going to ask you those same questions. The expectation is
that you will answer them honestly. Because of the way the
system works, if you say; I didn’t get anything to eat, they will
make sure you get food on the table. You won’t know how it
got there, it isn’t any of your business. Grandma and
Grandpa are respected as the voices of authority, they find out
who has extra food and make sure it gets to you. You can’t
ask grandma if she needs food because you have no authority
to fix the problem.
One day I was walking through Ode Remo like a complete
knuckle headed idiot when I realized no one else was outside
because it was too hot. I started to get sick. By the time I got
home a box of medicine was sitting on the front porch waiting
for me. No one even asked me how I was doing. Someone saw
me and the word got home before I did.
We don’t stand up in school tell the teacher well the test
was too hard ask some easy questions. We know you can’t do
that. But because Ifa is teaching you how to live life everybody
in American thinks they are an authority and an expert. Get
it?
How old are you?