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[ODD METERS & GROUPINGS PRIMER]

[Odd Meters & Groupings Primer]


[Exploring Grooves, Stickings and Combinations]

JOSE RUIZ 11/21/19 ESCUELA LIBRE DE MUSICA


[ODD METERS & GROUPINGS PRIMER]

INTRODUCTION

This handout will serve as a reference to move through the different sections of the
workshop. Here I will show you all the basic examples on how to feel basic odd meters in 5 and
7, and odd groupings in 3 and 5.

We will also see different examples of grooves in 5 and 7 along with the combinations of
groups of 3 and 5 applied together on exercises in 3/4, 4/4 and 7/4. At the end of the handout
you will find a bibliography that includes books that specialize in odd meters and groupings. Also,
you will find a small discography that emphasizes odd meters. It will include a list of drummers
well known for their odd time dexterity and a few albums that I think are an excellent
representation of their work. It’s up to you to look up further and listen to other albums that
showcase their work in odd times and read interviews with them to find their influences and use
those to expand your knowledge in those areas.

I hope you enjoy this material, study it and use it as a foundation to build your odd meter
and odd grouping understanding and development

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SECTION 1: ODD METERS

1. Odd Meter Introduction

Meter and time signature refer to the pulse of the music. Most of the music we listen in
PR is based on 2/4, 4/4 6/8, 12/8 and 3/4 meters. These are natural meters for us and are easily
followed. They create an even, steady pulse which gives the music a sense of stability. 3/4 meter
is technically an odd meter but based on the way it's commonly used (Waltz), it creates a steady
pulse, just like 2/4 and 4/4 meters do. When we move to things like 5 or 7 the listeners would
find difficult to follow the music. They normally feel as if the music is rushing or skipping beats.
Odd numbers cannot be divided in half, so we end up with a bar that cannot be divided into two
(or more) equal time segments. This is the main cause for the complexity of the odd meters.
When we think of groups of 2 on a 7/8 meter we get: 2 + 2 + 2 + 1 causing the listener to feel a
skip. To avoid this they will have to constantly be aware of the meter’s main downbeat.
Eventually, the placement of accented beats within the meter creates different “feels” for the
same odd meter.

2. 5/4 and 7/4

5/4 and 7/4 are the most commonly used odd time signatures. The quarter note still
receives one beat in both, but each has a unique feel.

Figure 1: Basic 5/4 beat

Figure 2: Basic 7/4 Beat

A typical way of counting and/or feeling an odd meter is to think of the subdivisions, we
can think of 5 as 2-3 and 3-2 as we will se in the following figure:

Figure 3: 2-3 and 3-2 subdivisions

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We can phrase those subdivisions as:

1. RLRLL
2. LRLRR
3. RLRLR / LRLRL

The same can be done for a 7/4 beat. You can sub divide it as 2-2-3 or 3-2-2

Figure 4: 2-2-3 and 3-2-2 subdivisions

We can phrase those subdivisions as:

1. RLRLRLL
2. LRLRLRR
3. RLRLRLR / LRLRLRL

When you internalize these groupings it’s much easier to just use them as a starting point
to create grooves. The tendency is that sooner than later your odd grooves will feel funkier than
your typical 4/4 beats. Here are some examples of 5/4 and 7/4 taken from Odd John Hawkins, a
project I work with where our main ideas are mostly based in Odd Meters. The record is called
Detective and you can find it on Spotify

Figure 5: Main Groove – Pass The Bucket

The next groove, also from the same song is based on a RLRRLRL sticking at an 8th note
ratio, that when played twice fills up one bar of 7

Figure 6: RLRRLRL groove, notice it creates a quasi-half time feel

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The following 2 examples are taken from a song in 5/4 called 5 Pack

Figure 7: 5 Pack main groove, notice how the hi hat / ride takes 2 bars to repeat itself as it is played on an even
subdivision against an uneven base

This second groove implies a much faster feel and is very simple. It’s just 4 paradiddles
and an inverted paradiddle to get back to the next downbeat. The sticking is Rlrr Lrll Rlrr Lrll RllK

Figure 8: 5 Pack solo groove – not in the record, I came up with it after we recorded the song, so we use it live

SECTION 2: ODD GROUPINGS

1. Odd Groupings Intro

An odd grouping is like an odd meter, an uneven group of notes. While the odd meter
deals with time signature, odd groupings deal with ratios against a pulse. The most basic and
widely use example is the triplet. If we play an 8th note triplet we are dealing with 3 notes within
the space of a quarter note. At the same time if we play a five-note grouping using an 8th note
triplet ratio we must move through 5 quarter notes until we hit the downbeat and the cycle starts
again.

Figure 9: Triplets within an 8th note ratio accenting every 3 notes. The accent falls on every quarter note

Figure 10: Changed to a 5-note grouping inside an 8th note triplet ratio. It takes 3 cycles to go back to starting on a
quarter note creating 3 evenly spaced accents within a bar of 5/4 – AKA as 3:5

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2. Examples of groups of 3, 5 & 7 on an 8th, 8th note triplet and 16th note ratio

You can experiment moving the 3 note odd grouping to a 16th note ratio, originally every
group of 3 will start on a quarter note but when you change the note ratio from triplets to 16 th
you will need a cycle of 3 quarter notes to start a group of 3 on a downbeat.

Figure 11: the 3 note grouping moving on a 16th note ratio. This creates 4 evenly spaced notes within a bar of 3/4 –
AKA as 4:3

3. Combine groupings and ratios for the concept of diminution and augmentation

An interesting thing to do is move a grouping from one note value to another without
changing the actual grouping. This means that we will take a 3-note grouping and move it from a
quarter note ratio, to an 8th note ratio, to an 8th note triplet ratio to a 16th note ratio. This is called
diminution. The opposite or going from 16th note ratio to a quarter note ratio is called
augmentation. Let’s see:

Figure 12: an example of diminution, a 3 note accent moving from quarte notes to 16th notes. The cycle goes along
with the new ratio. Quarter notes 1 cycle, 8th notes 2 cycles, 8th note triplets 3 cycles and 16th notes 4 cycles.

The same can be done with a 5-note grouping. Let’s see how it moves using a RLRLL
sticking:

Figure 13: 5 notes grouping inside a 5/4 frame and moving from quarter notes to 16th notes. The same thing
happens. The grouping moves with the note ratio. From once within quarter notes to 4 cycles within 16 th notes.

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After you understand and can play the previous exercises make sure to orchestrate
them. Here is a simple way to play a groove within the 5-note sticking.

Figure 14: 5 note grouping orchestrated a as groove – KRLRR / KRLRR

SECTION 3: COMBINATIONS OF ODD AND EVEN METERS WITH ODD GROUPINGS

1. Odd groupings within even time signatures

A good thing to do is to use the concepts we just saw and combine them to create grooves.
We can get for example a 4/4-time signature and play a simple kick-snare groove while we play
a 3-note grouping with the hi hat

Figure 14: 4/4 groove with a 3-note grouping on a 16th note ratio

The following groove allows you to play a 4:3 with 3 limbs, so you are playing the 3
possible permutations at the same time. When you put a back beat within a 6/4 bar you have
this:

Figure 15: notice we are playing 4:3 starting on the downbeat on the & and on the an while keeping a back beat
that helps anchor the groove

Now let’s move into an 8th note triplet ratio and use an abakwa rhythm split between a
tom, a cymbal and the bass drum. To make it sound odd we will play quarter notes on the hi hat
with our foot and 2 and 4 on the snare. Our base will be a 4/4 structure.

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Figure 16: abakwa orchestrated on a drum set as a groove

2. Odd groupings within Odd Time Signatures

We can complicate our life a little bit and mix an odd grouping with an odd time signature
to create interesting grooves. The first example uses a 3/4-time signature with groups of 3 and 5
going at the same time. We will play a quarter note with our left foot, a 3 note sticking RRL with
a back beat on beat 3 and a 5-note grouping with our bass drum stressing 1 and 3 K + K + +. This
creates a great feel. The basis of this groove can be heard on the track Rosetta Stoned by the
band TOOL, it’s on the album 10,000 days.

Figure 17: 3 notes sticking on a 3/4-time signature with a 5-note grouping on the snare drum

You can also use the 3 notes grouping on a 7/4-time signature for a nice overlapping of
rhythms. A variation of this concept can be heard on a track by Odd John Hawkins called
NVABMNEMV available on Spotify, the chorus and solo part of the tune employs a 3 note accent
moving on a 7/4-time signature.

Figure 18: A 7/4 base, with a 3 note based accent on the ride (R - - R - -), a 7-note based accent between kick and
snare ( K - - K – S -)and quarter notes on the hi hat.

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BIBLIOGRAPHY

1. Drum Books
a. Humphrey, Ralph - Even in the Odds: A Study of Odd Meters and Rhythms for the
Drummer - C.L. Barnhouse (1980) - ASIN: B002LCR0MQ
b. Chaffee, Gary: Odd Time Sticking: Compound Stickings for Odd-Meter Time
Playing and Soloing - Alfred Music (April 1, 2013) - ISBN-10: 0739096680
c. Chafee, Gary: Rhythm & Meter Patterns - Alfred Music; PAP/COM edition (July 1,
1994) - ISBN-10: 0769234690
d. Roscetti, Ed: Drummer's Guide to Odd Meters: Essential Concepts Series -
Musicians Institute Press (May 1, 2000) - ISBN-10: 0634001043
e. Lockett, Pete: Symmetrical Stickings: For Snare Drum, Drum Set & Percussion -
Hudson Music; 1 edition (November 1, 2018) - ISBN-10: 1540039846
2. Drummers
a. Bill Bruford
i. King Crimson: Discipline
b. Pat Mastelotto
i. King Crimson: Thrak (double drums with Bill Bruford)
c. Gavin Harrison
i. Porcupine Tree: Arriving Somewhere, But Not Here (Live DVD)
d. Ralph Humphrey
i. Frank Zappa: Apostrophe, Overnite Sensation
e. Terry Bozzio
i. UK: Danger Money
f. Mike Portnoy
i. Dream Theater: Metropolis Part 2
g. Danny Carey:
i. Tool: Fear Inoculum

Also listen to the works of Stravinsky, Edgar Varese, Steve Reich, Nik Bartsch, Glenn
Kotche, Jeff “Tain” Watts, Ari Hoening, Animals as Leaders, Earthworks, Rush, Mike Keneally,
Steve Vai, Dave Brubek, Adrian Bellew, Don Ellis, Chad Wackerman and Allan Holdsworth to
expand your knowledge in odd meters and groupings.

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