Project Mockingbird v3 - Brushed
Project Mockingbird v3 - Brushed
A LITTLE HISTORY
A lot of the original setup to try and make Betaflight Whoops fly better in Angle Mode is owed to
Scott Allyn from the MMW community as he was the first one I am of aware of to try to do this
and got a lot of the basics figured out. But Betaflight Angle mode, slow PPM Betaflight FC’s and
filtering just wasn’t that great back then, and it’s only really been since 3.2.2 and above that
Betaflight has gotten A LOT better for Whoops.
OVERVIEW
This setup is optimized for the latest F4 based Whoop FC’s. I have run it on an F3 BeeCore v2,
but some things don’t work as great as with F4, so I recommend using F3’s with caution. My
personal favorite FC is the NewBeeDrone BeeBrain LITE, but have tested these settings on the
AlienWhoop F4 and the BetaFPV F4 and they work well too! For those that are interested, I will
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have DIFF’s for the BeeBrain LITE and the BetaFPV 65s (FrSky versions) so you can basically
“flash and fly”
ctzsnooze - Betaflight Dev who is working on filtering in 3.5 and suggested new settings to RC
Interpolation
Joe Lucid - Betaflight Dev who suggested some new “D” levels and helped with filtering and
reviewed my blackbox data to get more power to the motors.
K1nslayer - He discovered the old code for “Throttle Mapping” in Betaflight and did some initial
tests with brushed motors
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The AlienWhoop Team - Their AlienWhoop F4 is the only Whoop FC to have blackbox data
and the PIDs they used on it were derived from Plasmatree. I used the AlienWhoop blackbox
data to share with Joe and Ethan to tweak those settings to get more power from the motors
and tweaked the base AlienWhoop F4 PIDs for other F4 Whoop FC’s.
The NewBeeDrone Team - During the development of the BeeBrain LITE they listened to all
the feedback from the testers (including me) and it really shows in the BeeBrain LITE FC.
Introducing Active Braking adds a level of precision not found in other brushed Whoop FC’s.
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CONFIGURATION - SECTION 1
● MIXER
○ Motor Direction REVERSED: I run “props out”, so I turn on reverse motor
direction
■ Make sure your motors are set up right in your Whoop with the black and
white wires (CCW Motor) in front left/back right and the red and blue (CW
Motor) in front right/back left
■ If you are using a STOCK BetaFPV 65s and using the DIFF below, I did
not swap motors around and kept it as it shipped. If you want to run
props out on the 65s then you will have to alter the DIFF or change in
Betaflight.
○ ESC Motor Features
■ Brushed Protocol
■ Motor PWM speed… turned on
■ Motor PWM Freq at 25000
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CONFIGURATION - SECTION 2
● Arming - Set to 180 so you can arm at any angle in Angle Mode
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● Camera - Set to a little more than half your camera angle on your Whoop (12 degrees
for 20 camera tilt and 17 for a 30 tilt).
○ EXPLAINED- F or Mockingbird Angle Mode, you are going to use
FPV_Angle_Mix to help in cornering. This number correlates with
“FPV_Angle_Mix” in in the Modes tab. It mixes pitch and roll into yaw and makes
cornering much better once you get used to it. This is where your “yawthority”
comes into play. You will find that you will use yaw more than you are used to
instead of pitch and roll. If you start using it your corners will be sharper and
flatter so you can keep your speed up.
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PID Settings
● PIDS: These PIDs have been tested on the AlienWhoop F4, the NewBee Drone
BeeBrain LITE, the BetaFPV F4 and should be good for most F4 FC’s. I don’t
recommend using these PIDs on non-F4 boards.
○ You will notice slightly higher PID’s on the DIFF for the stock 65s. It is a bit
heavy out of the box, so raising P just a smidge helped. If you are building your
own, I suggest using the ones here, if you are flying stock 65s, then just use the
ones in the DIFF
● PID Profile 3 (called profile 2 in the DIFF) is the tune I did. Profile 1 (profile 0 in the
DIFF) and Profile 2 (profile 1 in the DIFF) are just used for testing and troubleshooting.
● If you alter these PIDs, use caution raising Derivative as this adds PID oscillation and
reduces motor power. It’s a delicate balance between prop-wash and power. Use
FeedForward to get that snappy feeling back using lower D and I.
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FILTERS: These are the same as default on the AlienWhoop F4 and work great on the F4 FC’s
I’ve tested:
Angle Strength and Limit EXPLAINED - These two things control your pitch and roll “feeling”
(as well as limiting how far you can tilt). Instead of RC Rate controlling it, Ethan Bayer found
out that it’s actually controlled by these two settings. There is a relationship between the two.
The Limit controls how far you can tilt. 0 stick equals 0 degrees, and 100% stick equals 60
degrees. The Strength controls how much curve of resistance the quad tries to get back to 0
angle. If you like a “looser” feel with more stick travel, lower Angle Strength and/or increase
Angle Limit. I don’t like a lot of stick movement so, these numbers feel right to me. Some might
find an Angle Limit of 65 and Strength of 100-105 is more like the Inductrix with more stick travel
but the ability to tilt much further.
Horizon Strength and Transition EXPLAINED - Horizon Strength is different than Angle
strength as it uses your Horizon rates for Pitch, Roll, and Yaw, and works in conjunction with
Transition on how much influence and how fast it goes from Angle-like flight to Acro Flight.
travel that should have self-leveling applied to it, so smaller values cause more of the stick area
to fly using only the gyros.
For example, at a setting of "100" for sensitivity horizon, 100% self-leveling strength will be
applied at center stick, 50% self-leveling will be applied at 50% stick, and no self-leveling will be
applied at 100% stick. If sensitivity is decreased to 75, 100% self-leveling will be applied at
center stick, 50% will be applied at 63% stick, and no self-leveling will be applied at 75% stick
and onwards.
- Link to full page
● VBAT Compensation: ON
○ This changes PID values based on battery power.
● Anti Gravity Gain: 5
● Anti Gravity Threshold: 350
RATES
We are going to set up 3 different RATE profiles. One for Acro, one for Angle and one for
Horizon With this setup your rates will change when you switch from Acro to Angle. On my TX
Up is Acro, Middle is Horizon, and Down is Angle. I recommend this setup so that it
automatically turns on and off Airmode and FPV_Angle_Mix for the appropriate flight mode.
● Profile 1: Acro is setup more like my bigger quads for Freestyle, and has Rate/Super
mixed to my taste, keep yours like you like your Freestyle Whoop.
● Profile 2: Horizon is a lot like Acro rates, and will adjust Horizon Strength and Transition
○ If you plan on racing in Horizon, most pilots have found they need to increase
their typical Acro RC Rate 100 d/s. My settings displayed below are for racing in
Horizon mode, if you want to do more “Freestyle” in Horizon, I would match my
Acro Rates.
● Profile 3: Angle will only have yaw rates as Pitch and Roll are derived from Angle
Strength and Angle Limit
○ I prefer linear rates on yaw in Angle, but a good rule of thumb is to use your
racing Acro yaw rate and increase it 100 deg/sec by increasing RC Rate and
leaving Super as your Acro racing rates.
○ These are the same rates as earlier Mockingbird settings
○ A lot of people like to add 20-30% Expo, but I don’t run any expo. It’s up to you if
you like it.
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RATEPROFILE 1 (Acro)
ROLL/PITCH RC RATE: 1
YAW RC RATE: 1
RATEPROFILE 2 (Horizon)
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ROLL/PITCH RC RATE: .7
YAW RC RATE: .7
RATEPROFILE 3 (Angle)
ROLL AND PITCH - These are all set to zero as Roll and Pitch are controlled by Angle Strength
and Angle Limit.
RC Rate: 0
Super Rate: 0
YAW
RC Rate: 2.1
Super Rate: 0
NOTE:
● Max Vel may not be exact depending on your “Deadband” settings...just get it close to
700 d/s
● As mentioned above, these are my settings so if you want to race like I do, then use
these, but I’ve had other well known racers say they used their yaw rates from Aco and
just increased RC Rate until it’s about 100 d/s above what they usually run for Acro
MODES
AUX 1: ARM
AUX 2: ACRO, ANGLE, HORIZON, FPV ANGLE MIX (on for Angle Mode), and AIRMODE (on
for Acro and Horizon)
EXPLAINED- I recommend not using Airmode for Angle Mode. Turning it off seems to help with
crashing and glancing blows and also seems to help with more power as well as cruising low
across floors. That’s why it gets turned off when you select Angle Mode and why you have “Idle
Up” (increased min_throttle on the config page).
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ADJUSTMENTS
This is where we will set up a rate profile change upon the user switching from Acro to Angle to
Horizon.
EXPLAINED:
So you can run Acro and have higher rates and super, but when you want to be an Angle
Racer, when you flip your Aux 2 to Angle, the Adjustments tab will change to Rate Profile 3 and
you’ll have the more linear Angle Racing rates. NOTE, I have my AUX 2 go UP=Acro,
MID=Horizon, DWN=Angle so I can have Airmode on for Acro and Horizon, but not Angle. So
my Adjustments and Profiles match. Change according to how you have your Mode switch set
up.
● Set AUX 2 to match your range for Angle in your Modes tab
● Select “Rate Profile Selection” as your option in “then apply”
● Using “Slot 2” to match the Rate profile of Angle
● Via Channel AUX 2 - this matches your mode switch
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//This is to reduce the "bounce" that you can get with airmode when you first arm. I only
use airmode for Acro//
set airmode_start_throttle_percent = 15
//These two setting replace "Throttle Mixing" in older versions of Mockingbird. This is much
more accurate and in brushed I think it adds more power. The value is the "power" you want
to your pitch and roll (how much throttle is added). Don't change this too much, but I think 3
is about right. You'll find yourself not having to throttle through things as much, you'll just
pitch, roll and yaw and the power will be there.//
set thr_corr_value = 3
set thr_corr_angle = 600
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//This is another brushed trick to get more power from the motors. It seems to help in
brushless too//
set throttle_limit_type = CLIP
//This makes it so you can do powerloops and other inverted like maneuvers easier//
set horizon_tilt_effect = 80
set horizon_tilt_expert_mode = ON
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DIFFS
This should be very easy and get you up in the air as fast as possible.
# version
# Betaflight / BEEBRAIN_LITE (BBL) 3.5.4 Nov 20 2018 / 14:10:22 (c66355a61) MSP API: 1.40
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board_name BEEBRAIN_LITE
manufacturer_id
mcu_id 0032001b3337510137313638
signature
# name
name MKNGBRD
# resources
# mixer
# servo
# servo mix
# feature
# map
map AETR1234
# serial
# led
led 0 5,7:W:C:1
led 1 6,7:E:CTOI:2
led 2 7,7::CTOI:10
# color
# mode_color
# aux
aux 1 1 1 1825 2100 0 0
aux 3 28 1 900 1550 0 0
aux 4 30 1 1450 2100 0 0
# adjrange
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# rxrange
rxrange 0 988 2010
rxrange 1 988 2012
rxrange 2 988 2012
rxrange 3 988 2012
# vtx
# rxfail
# master
set gyro_lowpass2_hz = 751
set baro_hardware = NONE
set min_check = 1007
set max_check = 2000
set fpv_mix_degrees = 12
set airmode_start_throttle_percent = 15
set min_throttle = 1070
set thr_corr_value = 3
set thr_corr_angle = 600
set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 45
set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 29
set yaw_motors_reversed = ON
set osd_warn_core_temp = OFF
set osd_cap_alarm = 250
set osd_vbat_pos = 2370
set osd_rssi_pos = 2082
set osd_tim_2_pos = 2102
set osd_flymode_pos = 2392
set osd_vtx_channel_pos = 2092
set osd_craft_name_pos = 2379
set osd_warnings_pos = 298
set vtx_band = 1
set vtx_channel = 7
set vtx_power = 2
set vcd_video_system = NTSC
# profile
profile 0
set vbat_pid_gain = ON
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set iterm_relax = RP
set pidsum_limit = 1000
set pidsum_limit_yaw = 1000
set p_pitch = 50
set i_pitch = 40
set d_pitch = 35
set f_pitch = 140
set p_roll = 50
set i_roll = 40
set d_roll = 35
set f_roll = 140
set p_yaw = 50
set i_yaw = 40
set d_yaw = 35
set p_level = 100
set level_limit = 60
# profile
profile 1
set vbat_pid_gain = ON
set iterm_relax = RP
set i_pitch = 75
set d_pitch = 95
set f_pitch = 140
set i_roll = 75
set d_roll = 85
set f_roll = 140
set d_yaw = 10
set p_level = 100
set level_limit = 60
# profile
profile 2
set i_roll = 80
set d_roll = 40
set f_roll = 200
set d_yaw = 10
set p_level = 100
set i_level = 45
set d_level = 80
set level_limit = 60
set horizon_tilt_effect = 80
set horizon_tilt_expert_mode = ON
# rateprofile
rateprofile 0
set roll_expo = 0
set pitch_expo = 0
set yaw_expo = 0
set tpa_rate = 65
set tpa_breakpoint = 1750
# rateprofile
rateprofile 1
set roll_expo = 0
set pitch_expo = 0
set yaw_expo = 0
set tpa_rate = 65
set tpa_breakpoint = 1750
set throttle_limit_type = CLIP
# rateprofile
rateprofile 2
set roll_rc_rate = 0
set pitch_rc_rate = 0
set yaw_rc_rate = 210
set roll_expo = 0
set pitch_expo = 0
set yaw_expo = 0
set roll_srate = 0
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set pitch_srate = 0
set yaw_srate = 0
set tpa_rate = 65
set tpa_breakpoint = 1750
# rateprofile
rateprofile 3
# rateprofile
rateprofile 4
# rateprofile
rateprofile 5
# save configuration
save
#
Project Mocking Bird Diff.txt
Open with
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BETAFPV 65S
If your 65s came with Betaflight 3.4, please flash it to the latest 3.5.x version. It’s been
reported some of them are still shipping with 3.4.
ALSO...this is with D8 “Frsky D” binding instead of D16. Make sure your radio is set up
to bind in D8
# version
# Betaflight / MATEKF411RX (M41R) 3.5.3 Nov 15 2018 / 00:03:29 (61d5abf00) MSP API: 1.40
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board_name MATEKF411RX
manufacturer_id
mcu_id 0026002c3437510b33353431
signature
# name
name MKNGBRD 65s
# beacon
# map
map TAER1234
# aux
aux 0 0 0 1800 2100 0 0
aux 1 1 1 1800 2100 0 0
aux 2 2 1 1200 1600 0 0
aux 3 28 1 900 1550 0 0
aux 4 30 1 1700 2100 0 0
# adjrange
adjrange 0 1 1 1425 1550 12 1 0 0
# rxrange
rxrange 0 988 2010
rxrange 1 988 2012
rxrange 2 988 2012
rxrange 3 988 2012
# vtx
# rxfail
# master
set gyro_lowpass2_hz = 751
set min_check = 1007
set max_check = 2000
set fpv_mix_degrees = 20
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set airmode_start_throttle_percent = 15
set rx_spi_protocol = FRSKY_D
set min_throttle = 1007
set motor_pwm_rate = 25000
set thr_corr_value = 3
set thr_corr_angle = 600
set bat_capacity = 260
set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 45
set vbat_min_cell_voltage = 29
set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 29
set vbat_scale = 114
set ibata_scale = 1728
set small_angle = 180
set pid_process_denom = 1
set runaway_takeoff_prevention = OFF
set osd_warn_esc_fail = OFF
set osd_warn_core_temp = OFF
set osd_vbat_pos = 2402
set osd_rssi_pos = 2082
set osd_tim_2_pos = 2102
set osd_flymode_pos = 2423
set osd_craft_name_pos = 2409
set osd_warnings_pos = 2345
set cpu_overclock = 108MHZ
set vtx_band = 1
set vtx_channel = 7
set vtx_freq = 5745
set vcd_video_system = NTSC
set frsky_spi_tx_id = 189,24
set frsky_spi_offset = -3
set frsky_spi_bind_hop_data =
5,163,88,13,173,98,23,183,108,33,193,118,43,203,128,53,213,138,63,223,148,73,233,158,83,8
,168,93,18,178,103,28,188,113,38,198,123,48,208,135,58,218,143,68,228,153,78,0,0,0
# profile
profile 0
# profile
profile 1
# profile
profile 2
# rateprofile
rateprofile 0
set roll_srate = 80
set pitch_srate = 80
set yaw_srate = 80
set tpa_rate = 65
set tpa_breakpoint = 1750
# rateprofile
rateprofile 1
set roll_rc_rate = 70
set pitch_rc_rate = 70
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set yaw_rc_rate = 70
set roll_srate = 80
set pitch_srate = 80
set yaw_srate = 80
set tpa_rate = 65
set tpa_breakpoint = 1750
set throttle_limit_type = CLIP
# rateprofile
rateprofile 2
set roll_rc_rate = 0
set pitch_rc_rate = 0
set yaw_rc_rate = 210
set roll_srate = 0
set pitch_srate = 0
set yaw_srate = 0
set tpa_rate = 65
set tpa_breakpoint = 1750
# rateprofile
rateprofile 3
# rateprofile
rateprofile 4
# rateprofile
rateprofile 5
# save configuration
save
#
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VERSION 2:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11nzMJCEWNX7CY8XjnYBDlEiYT6GNqBuCe9gFEq2FMWI/e
dit#
VERSION 3 TinyHawk:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13PU6WVnge-DjZcVcWFTGLNG8H0DaMGs7dPpxZoy-iCU/ed
it#
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