English language teaching in Hungarian primary schools

with special reference to the teacher’s mother tongue use

Thesis submitted by

Krisztina Nagy

For the degree of Doctor of Philosophy

The Stirling Institute of Education

University of Stirling

2009
Abstract

This thesis is a study of language use in English language classrooms in primary

schools in Hungary. The focus of the study is on the use of the target language
(English) and the mother tongue (Hungarian) by the teachers and the learners. The
teachers are all Hungarian native speakers, with varying levels of competence and
previous experience in communicative language teaching, and this presents a
challenge to the adoption of a communicative approach to the teaching of English.
The National Core Curriculum endorses the communicative approach, with the
expectation that the target language will be used as much as possible. However, in
practice, the mother tongue is widely used in these classrooms, both by the teachers
and by the students. There is therefore a conflict between policy and practice: the
policy is that the target language should be used wherever possible, whereas the
practice is that the use of the target language is limited to predictable and routine
contexts. It is this conflict which constitutes the central question which is addressed
in this thesis: how do teachers resolve the conflict between what they are expected
to do, and what they feel capable of doing.
Data from classrooms and interviews were collected and analysed, using
both quantitative and qualitative techniques. The focus of the analysis was on the
amount and function of the use of the mother tongue by the teachers. Comparisons
were drawn between teachers of Grade 4 pupils who started to learn English in
Grade 1 and those who started in Grade 4. This analysis is complemented by
evidence concerning the teachers‘ beliefs and understandings about the pressures
and constraints which affect their teaching of English to young learners. The results
suggest that the possibility of communicative language teaching in these classrooms
is constrained by various factors, including the limitations in the children‘s
cognitive capabilities and the proficiency level of the children, and the teachers‘
preference for using their previous methods which included grammar, translation
and memorisation; also by curriculum requirements such as the use of the textbook,
and the necessity to prepare the children for examinations. The implications of these
findings for curriculum development in foreign language teaching in other
comparable contexts are discussed.

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 Acknowledgements

I would like to express my gratitude to the many people who have helped and

encouraged me to do this research.

I am indebted to Dr. Daniel Robertson, my supervisor, for all his advice and

professional knowledge used in setting up this project, and for his guidance, time,

understanding and patience in seeing it through to completion with me. I am also

thankful to Christine Stephen for her help and advice on the conducting of semi-

structured interviews.

I am grateful to Oron Joffe for his help with computing techniques, which

absolved me of much time-consuming work by showing me how to sort details with

the tap of a button, and to the Stirling University Library staff who provided so

much of the reading material I have used. I also thank Jock Stein for his financial

support towards the cost of living in Scotland while I was doing my studies.

Then there were all the teachers and pupils in the schools in Budapest,

without them this research could not have happened. To them, and parents and head

teachers I will be eternally grateful. I was also glad to have the help of three other

Hungarian friends, Rita Kim, Gábor Kováts and Rozi László.

And last, but not least, my thanks go to my friends Margaret and Ian who

have encouraged and supported me throughout these years of study and learning.

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 Table of Contents

Abstract: .............................................................................................................i
Acknowledgements: ......................................................................................... iii
Table of Contents: ............................................................................................. v
List of Figures................................................................................................. viii
List of Tables ix
Chapter One: Introduction .......................................................................................... 1
1.1 The situation in Hungary .................................................................................. 2
1.2 Modern Foreign Language teaching in primary schools .................................. 5
1.3 Course books .................................................................................................... 7
1.4 Assessment ....................................................................................................... 8
1.5 Summary........................................................................................................... 9
1.6 Overview of the dissertation ............................................................................. 9
Chapter Two: Literature review ............................................................................... 11
2.1 Introduction .................................................................................................... 11
2.2 How children learn ......................................................................................... 12
2.2.1 Introduction ............................................................................................. 12
2.2.2 Learning through stages .......................................................................... 12
2.2.3 The social environment ........................................................................... 15
2.2.4 Conclusion ............................................................................................... 18
2.3 How children learn foreign languages ............................................................ 19
2.3.1 Introduction ............................................................................................. 19
2.3.2 The learning context ................................................................................ 19
2.3.3 Starting time ............................................................................................ 22
2.3.4 Factors affecting language teaching/learning in primary FL classes ...... 28
2.3.5 Conclusion ............................................................................................... 32
2.4 Communicative Language Teaching .............................................................. 33
2.4.1 Communicative competence ................................................................... 33
2.4.2 The communicative syllabus ................................................................... 35
2.4.3 Level of proficiency ................................................................................ 37
2.4.4 Course books ........................................................................................... 38
2.4.5 Conclusion ............................................................................................... 42
2.5 Mother tongue use in the foreign language classrooms ................................. 43
2.5.1 Introduction ............................................................................................. 43
2.5.2 The Debate............................................................................................... 45
2.5.3 Empirical studies on L1 use in FL Classrooms ....................................... 48
2.5.4 Teachers‘ L1 use in Primary FL Classrooms .......................................... 59
2.5.5 Conclusion ............................................................................................... 63
2.6 Good practice.................................................................................................. 63
2.7 Summary......................................................................................................... 65
Chapter Three: Methodology ................................................................................... 67
3.1 Introduction .................................................................................................... 67
3.2 The study ........................................................................................................ 67
3.2.1 The planning ............................................................................................ 67
3.2.2 Description of the study........................................................................... 70
3.2.3 Timetable ................................................................................................. 71
3.3 Pilot study ....................................................................................................... 71
3.3.1 Data collection ......................................................................................... 72
3.3.2 Data analysis ............................................................................................ 74

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 3.3.3 Results of the Pilot study ........................................................................ 83
3.4 Main study ..................................................................................................... 84
3.4.1 The context (sampling) ........................................................................... 84
3.4.2 Lesson observation (audio recording) ..................................................... 89
3.4.3 Observation notes.................................................................................... 93
3.4.4 Interviews ................................................................................................ 95
3.4.5 Triangulation ........................................................................................... 98
3.5 Data analysis .................................................................................................. 99
3.5.1 Units of analysis ...................................................................................... 99
3.5.2 Frequency of L1 and L2 words ............................................................. 100
3.5.3 Functional analysis of utterances .......................................................... 106
3.5.4 Qualitative analysis ............................................................................... 123
3.5.5 Validity and reliability .......................................................................... 124
3.5.6 Ethical considerations ........................................................................... 127
3.6 Limitations ................................................................................................... 129
3.7 Summary ...................................................................................................... 130
Chapter Four: Quantitative Analysis ..................................................................... 131
4.1 Introduction .................................................................................................. 131
4.2 Frequency of L2 and L1 use ........................................................................ 132
4.2.1 How much L1 is present? ..................................................................... 132
4.2.2 The relationship between the different variables .................................. 136
4.2.3 Conclusion ............................................................................................ 143
4.3 Functions of the teachers‘ L1 use ................................................................ 145
4.3.1 Introduction ........................................................................................... 145
4.3.2 Results ................................................................................................... 145
4.3.3 Conclusion ............................................................................................ 148
4.4 Analysing the less often used functions ....................................................... 148
4.4.1 Introduction ........................................................................................... 148
4.4.2 Translation ............................................................................................ 148
4.4.3 Metalinguistic Use ................................................................................ 150
4.4.4 Affective Responses.............................................................................. 150
4.4.5 Teachers‘ reaction to students‘ L1 use.................................................. 152
4.4.6 Metacomments ...................................................................................... 153
4.4.7 Markers ................................................................................................. 155
4.4.8 Outside lesson frame ............................................................................. 158
4.4.9 Cannot be coded .................................................................................... 158
4.5 Analysing the most often used functions ..................................................... 159
4.5.1 Introduction ........................................................................................... 159
4.5.2 Information-Giving ............................................................................... 161
4.5.3 Instruction-Giving ................................................................................. 172
4.5.4 Question ................................................................................................ 176
4.6 Summary ...................................................................................................... 183
Chapter Five: Qualitative analysis ......................................................................... 185
5.1 Introduction .................................................................................................. 185
5.2 Pressures ...................................................................................................... 186
5.2.1 Teachers‘ training ................................................................................. 187
5.2.2 National Core Curriculum and syllabus design .................................... 194
5.2.3 Textbooks.............................................................................................. 196
5.2.4 Marks .................................................................................................... 203
5.2.5 Exams.................................................................................................... 209

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 5.2.6 Parents ................................................................................................... 214
5.2.7 School authorities .................................................................................. 216
5.2.8 Student expectations .............................................................................. 217
5.3 Constraints .................................................................................................... 219
5.3.1 Learning space ....................................................................................... 220
5.3.2 Lack of resources ................................................................................... 222
5.3.3 Lack of time ........................................................................................... 223
5.3.4 The monolingual class ........................................................................... 225
5.3.5 The teacher‘s ability .............................................................................. 226
5.3.6 Difference between L1 and L2 .............................................................. 230
5.3.7 Textbooks .............................................................................................. 235
5.3.8 Cognitive and affective characteristics of learners ................................ 238
5.3.9 Behaviour .............................................................................................. 239
5.3.10 Levels of motivation ............................................................................ 240
5.4 Three short case studies ................................................................................ 241
5.4.1 Aiming too low: Teacher Gizi ............................................................... 242
5.4.2 Aiming too high: Teacher Hajni ............................................................ 243
5.4.3 Some good shots: Teacher Piroska ........................................................ 245
5.4.4 On target ................................................................................................ 248
5.5 Summary....................................................................................................... 249
Chapter Six: Discussion and conclusion ................................................................ 251
6.1 Introduction .................................................................................................. 251
6.2 Discussion..................................................................................................... 252
6.2.1 Factors affecting language teaching/learning in the observed classes .. 252
6.2.2 Teachers‘ beliefs .................................................................................... 255
6.2.3 Opportunities for the students to learn .................................................. 258
6.3 Conclusion .................................................................................................... 260
6.4 Limitations .................................................................................................... 263
6.5 Recommendations for further research ........................................................ 263
6.6 Final Comment ............................................................................................. 264
Reference List ......................................................................................................... 265
Appendices ............................................................................................................279

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 List of Figures

Figure 4.1: Relationship between Teacher L2 and Teacher L1 use ....................... 142
Figure 4.2: Distribution of percentages of all L1 utterances ................................. 147
Figure 4.3: Distribution of percentages of Information-Giving utterances ........... 162
Figure 4.4 Distribution of percentages of Instruction-Giving utterances ............. 172
Figure 4.5: Distribution of percentages of Question utterances ............................ 177

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 List of Tables

Table 2.1: External and internal factors influencing language teaching .................. 29
Table 2.2: Studies of L1 use of the teacher/students from different countries ......... 48
Table 2.3: Teachers‘ views on appropriate use of L2 and L1 .................................. 52
Table 3.1: Timetable of data collection .................................................................... 71
Table 3.2: Pilot study recordings, April-May 2004 .................................................. 73
Table 3.3: Number and percentage of L1 and L2 words in four 45-minute lessons 74
Table 3.4: The structure of a typical foreign language lesson in Hungary............... 75
Table 3.5: Total number of words in L2 and L1 in two lessons, .............................. 77
Table 3.6: Total number of words in the L1 and the L2, used by the teacher .......... 78
Table 3.7: The four schools participating in the main study .................................... 86
Table 3.8: The seven teachers .................................................................................. 89
Table 3.9: Main study recordings, May 2005........................................................... 92
Table 3.10: Ways of estimating the amount of L1 and L2 use ............................... 100
Table 3.11: Colours & formats used for coding the scripts for word count ........... 102
Table 3.12: The different participants during the recorded lessons ....................... 103
Table 3.13: Functional categories and frames ........................................................ 112
Table 4.1: Percentage of words by Teacher and Others in each lesson ................ 134
Table 4.2: Number of words by Teacher and by Others in L2 and L1................... 135
Table 4.3: Percentage of words by Teacher, Others & All .................................... 137
Table 4.4: Number of words by Teacher and Others in L2 and L1 in each lesson 139
Table 4.5: Percentage of words by Teacher and Others in L2 and L1 ................... 140
Table 4.6: Number of L1 utterances for different functions (1) ............................. 145
Table 4.7: Number of L1 utterances for different functions (2) ............................. 146
Table 4.8: Percentage and number of all L1 utterances and their functions, ......... 147
Table 4.9: Number and percentage of L1 utterances of 3 functions ...................... 160
Table 4.10: Number of L1 utterances of 3 functions.............................................. 160

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1. Chapter One
One: Introduction
Introduction

This thesis investigates the results of the major changes that took place in Hungary in

the 1990s. The previous foreign language teaching used the grammar translation

method along with learning by heart and rota learning activities. This method was

questioned, and in the new curriculum (Nemzeti Alaptanterv, 1995) communicative

oriented language teaching was recommended by the government. The question that

this thesis is attempting to answer is how the teachers of the old method adjusted to the

new method. Do they manage to teach their primary students with the communicative

approach? Or do they still try to teach the language itself as they would teach other

subjects, and as they themselves were taught?

I had a great advantage as a researcher, because I am both a primary teacher and

an English language teacher and I have worked in Hungarian primary schools. I knew

that I could visit schools and see actual lessons. I would be able to understand the

challenges the language teachers possibly face in their changing world, not only from

the outsider‘s (researcher) point of view, but also from the insider‘s (the fellow teacher)

point of view.

I decided to concentrate on the teachers‘ language use and choice, although

many other factors were taken into consideration, for example the discourse of the

whole lesson, including the students‘ discourse, the context, and interviews with the

teachers, and the official recommendations. The reason for primarily looking into the

teachers‘ language use and choice was my belief that finding out how much English

and Hungarian they were using and why would give an indication of how

communicative the language teaching was. The assumption was that if English (L2)

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was used all the time then it would be very communicative, while with much Hungarian

(L1) use it would probably be more the old grammar-translation method.

It turned out that the answers were much more complex than had been first

anticipated. Many different factors were at play, and interacting, and there is not an

easy answer to any of the questions that have been raised. Some other interesting points

were also raised, all of this adding to our knowledge of the complexity of the situation

in changing from the one method to another.

1.1 The situation in Hungary

Hungary is situated in Central Europe, surrounded by other countries, namely Austria,

Slovakia, Ukraine, Romania, Serbia and Croatia. The Hungarian language belongs to

the Finno-Ugric branch of the Uralic languages, while the languages spoken in the

surrounding countries are Indo-European in origin. Nearly 99% of the population of

c10.1 million people speak Hungarian as their first language (Statistical Yearbook of

Hungary, 2001), with only small minorities speaking in German, Croatian, Romanian,

Slovakian and Roma.

Hungary has a long history of foreign language teaching, and teaching it from

primary school age. For historical and political reasons German was the foreign

language which was learned up until, in 1949, Russian became compulsory in state

primary schools from the age of ten through to the end of the second post-secondary

year of education (Medgyes and Miklósy, 2000).

During the communist era until 1989, the educational system was centralised

and monolithic. Most children attended a kindergarten from the age of three to six, and

then all were in primary school for eight years. From there they chose from going to a

secondary for four years to do a general course, four years doing a technical course, or

three years training for skilled work, followed by employment. At the end of the two

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four-year options, students sat a secondary school leaving exam which enabled them to

enter a college for three to four years, gaining a diploma, or go to university for four to

six years to gain a degree, the equivalent of a Master‘s Degree in the UK.

The political changes in 1989 quickly resulted in a thorough educational reform.

The main changes were:

1) The old monolithic education system gave way to a new decentralised

structure: elements of the ‗old‘ and the ‗new‘ coexist in such a way that
they are difficult to disentangle.

2) Following the 1990 Self-Government Act, the right and obligation to

maintain schools were transferred from state to local authorities. Today,
schools may also be maintained by churches and the private sector.

3) The duration of compulsory education was lengthened from eight to ten

years. (Medgyes and Miklósy, 2000:168)

There were many changes over a few years and so the Hungarian educational pendulum

has gone from one extreme to the other over the last few decades. Until the late 1980s

the whole system was completely centralised: all students followed exactly the same

curricula and syllabuses and had to learn exactly the same units from the same

textbooks at the same time of the school year. In 1989 the old curriculum was outdated,

but there was no new one in place, so teachers were given the freedom to teach what

they wanted while the new curriculum was developed (Nikolov, 2000d: 5).

In the early 1990s several versions of new curricula followed one another,

Version 1 in 1990, Version 2 in 1992, and Version 3 in 1995. Version 3, the current

National Core Curriculum (NCC) was implemented gradually and only reached all

levels of education in the 2003-2004 school year (Medgyes and Miklósy, 2000).

The NCC was considered innovative in several ways, for example instead of the

traditional subject areas, ten cultural domains were introduced to try to loosen up the

boundaries between the different subjects. This approach came under heavy criticism

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for different reasons. It was a very different approach from the traditional educational

approach; there were not enough teachers who could teach integrated content areas and

the examination that followed was still being structured around traditional school

subjects (Medgyes and Nikolov, 2002: 202).

At the same time schools were encouraged to develop their local curricula,

based on the NCC. This was intended to give schools the opportunity to meet local

needs and to involve the practising teachers in the planning, not just the teaching. Many

schools across the country did so.

One important change was that instead of compulsory Russian classes, English

alongside German became the foreign language most widely taught (Medgyes and

Miklósy, 2000). As a result, after 1990, Russian teachers re-trained to teach mostly

either German or English, and now over sixty percent of foreign language teachers are

retrained Russian teachers (Nikolov, 2000b). As globalisation spreads, the trend in

Hungary, as in all Europe, is towards English being preferred, and in Europe the study

of a second FL is added to language policy recommendations (Council for Cultural

Cooperation, 2001).

The new guidelines are still putting a lot of emphasis on an early start: the NCC

(Nemzeti Alaptanterv, 2003) promotes early start, saying that ―every educational

establishment has to start teaching a modern foreign language not later than at the age

of nine‖, or even before if it is possible (page 31). This is in accord with the trend in

Europe where FL teaching is tending to start at an earlier age and also last longer

(Edelenbos, Johnstone and Kubanek, 2006; EACEA, 2008)

In this study I am comparing two different types of schools; in some, foreign

language teaching starts in Grade 1, and in the others it starts in Grade 4. Those who

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have the resources and manage to teach from the earliest grade are indeed perceived by

both parents and teachers as giving their students an advantage in language learning.

The following section looks at the aims and objectives of foreign language teaching in

primary schools with emphasis on Grade 4, the official starting age.

1.2 Modern Foreign Language teaching in primary schools

The National Core Curriculum of Hungary (Nemzeti Alaptanterv, 1995) was not a

finished document, but it has developed since its first introduction. In this thesis I am

going to refer to the latest version that was available during the data collection. The

teachers of the study used this version when planning their lessons, and so the

guidelines of the National Core Curriculum (NCC) (Nemzeti Alaptanterv, 2003) will be

discussed and referred to here.

Out of the ten cultural domains in the NCC (Nemzeti Alaptanterv, 2003) one is

called Modern Foreign Languages (MFL), which applies to English, German and other

foreign languages taught in Hungarian schools. The NCC (Nemzeti Alaptanterv, 2003)

explicitly makes a comparison between first and MFL learning, when it states:

In childhood (modern foreign) language learning is built on the process of

the acquisition of the mother tongue. Children should engage in activities
that are interesting, meaningful, motivating in themselves, and matching
their cognitive development. During participation in the activities they hear
the target language and as they understand the situation, the context, they
are acquiring the language. This is a slow process, and we cannot expect a
quick impressive result as we can when teaching older students. One of the
typical phenomena of learning a language is the silent period; during this
time some pupils may not speak for months, but they are nevertheless
happy to join in the playful activities.

During the MFL lessons children make sense of the information they hear
in an unknown language by comparing it with their existing knowledge
about the world, so it is very important to build the syllabus on their
experience. It is possible to achieve this, on the one hand by using concrete
experiences and on the other hand by integrating into the lessons topics
from their other lessons. This way the children will be able to understand
the teacher‘s L2 use. (page 27) (This is translated from the original
Hungarian text; see Appendix 1 for the original text.)
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The definition suggests that in childhood learning an additional language or languages

in the classroom is very similar to the way children learn their mother tongue. While

taking part in activities children hear the L2 and from the context they understand what

is being said in the L2. According to the NCC (Nemzeti Alaptanterv, 2003), just as

children acquire their mother tongue, in the classroom, at a young age, if the right

environment is provided, they can also acquire the MFL, without explicit teaching, by

going through stages similar to those they go through when learning their mother

tongue.

It is also suggested in the NCC documentation that just as very young children

first listen to their carers‘ talk and only much later they start to speak, this may be the

case for some school age children too, introducing the silent period into classroom

context.

The main aim of MFL learning during primary school is ‗communicative

competence‘, i.e. usable language knowledge. (page 32)

At the same time as promoting communication as the main aim, and expecting

acquisition as the main mode, the NCC (Nemzeti Alaptanterv, 2003) also sets

objectives, for example at the end of Grade 4 the following requirements are to be met:

Understanding spoken language

The student should understand short instructions, requests (with known

language) and can act on them. The student should understand short
questions (with known language).

Speaking

The student should be able to answer with a word or with an incomplete

sentence if asked a question (with known language). The student should be
able to name known objects. The student should be able to sing some
known songs, recite some known poems or rhymes.

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 Reading

The student should recognize the written forms of the learned words. The
student recognizes short sentences with a few words (with known
language). The student should be able to find important information in a
single sentence (with known language).

Writing

The student should be able to copy known words. (page 28)

These aims and objectives seem to require the new language not only to be acquired but

also to be taught and learned. The document also states that

Hungarian questions and answers are part of the students‘ talk during the
lessons, which they use for feedback and reinforcement while their teachers
will use the target language at the same time. (page 27)

There is an obvious tension between the traditional academic emphasis (to read and

write, to understand text and work with it) and the notion of acquisition,

communication and understanding (‗communicative competence‘) in the objectives of

MFL teaching (See the same problem in Judge, 1974).

1.3 Course books

One important feature of the Hungarian education system is the use of the course books

which traditional Hungarian education has always preferred.

Textbooks published after the World War II were ideologically biased and were

planned centrally. From 1980 new course books began to be used also, supplementing

the official textbooks. At the beginning of the 1990s, foreign language teachers were

not only confronted with the option of learning a new language (English or German) or

losing their jobs, but they also needed to select course books to teach the new language.

As soon as the ban on using imported materials in state education was lifted in the late

1980s, and a free choice of teaching materials was allowed by the Public Education Act

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of 1993 (Medgyes and Miklósy, 2000), the market was flooded from other countries

with language books to teach English, nearly all of them based on communicative

language teaching principles (Medgyes, 1999). Although there were some teachers who

continued to use the locally produced textbooks, most English language teachers opted

for course books from abroad, usually from Britain. Many schools then based their

local curricula on these textbooks, following the structure of the book. This strongly

influenced the assessment of the students.

1.4 Assessment
One of the leading features of the Hungarian educational system is the assessment of

student attainment. Learners are given marks for their performance throughout their

formal education. They can be asked any time, without any previous warning, to take a

test, to write an essay or to answer the teacher‘s questions in front of the class (this is

called felelés in Hungarian) (see also in Duff, 1996). For these written and oral

performances they are given marks between 1 and 5, 5 being the highest mark.

These marks determine the final mark for the whole school year, for each of the

subjects they learn. In addition, each student gets a mark for behaviour (magatartás) and

for diligence, or how hard they work (szorgalom). At the end of primary education the

final marks from the higher primary years (Grades 5-8) may determine the secondary

school each student can go to. The most prestigious secondary schools take only

students who either have high final marks or pass the school‘s entry test, first those

from their catchment area, and then others from farther afield. At the end of formal

education there is also a school leaving exam (Érettségi) where a mark for a MFL is

given, along with those for other subjects; this influences the eligibility for university

entrance (Nemzeti Alaptanterv, 2003).

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 No university degree is given without a valid exam pass in a MFL at a level

equivalent to the Cambridge First Certificate Exam. This shows why those who chose

to learn English as a MFL in primary schools often want to learn it as well as possible,

to be able to take the exams needed at the different stages of their education.

Marks and assessment are part of the whole school system, and during the data

collection for this study marks were given for language performances in Grade 4.

Although this changed in the last year, the data in my study shows how important

marks were for both the teachers and their students in the MFL classes.

1.5 Summary
The changes in the MFL teaching in Hungarian schools, including in primary schools,

have been rapid, and in only a few years MFL teachers have had to cope with not only

changing the language they taught, but also the methodology. How have the teachers

coped with the changes? How do they teach English as a MFL now, at the very

beginning of the 21 century, in primary schools in Hungary?

This thesis attempts to answer these questions, by showing what happened in

some language classrooms, and by offering some explanation. The general research

question that was guiding this following research was: Do English language teachers in

primary schools teach with the communicative method? If not, as previous research and

anecdotal evidence suggests, what are they doing instead, and why?

1.6 Overview of the dissertation

In Chapter 2 a literature review is presented, concerning recent research on how

children learn languages, and the teachers‘ mother tongue use in foreign language

classrooms, including some research findings from primary classrooms. Chapter 3

describes the methods of data collection and analysis with discussion on validity,

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reliability and ethical considerations. The two following chapters cover the data

analyses, with the quantitative analysis in Chapter 4, and then the qualitative analysis in

Chapter 5. This leads on, in Chapter 6, to a discussion of the results of the findings,

looking particularly at the teachers‘ mother tongue use, their beliefs and the possibility

of teaching communicatively in these classrooms, and the conclusions.

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 2. ChapterChapter Two
Two: Literature review
Literature Review

2.1 Introduction
Modern foreign language acquisition research and practices have progressed

significantly in the last two or three decades. At the same time, general educational

research and practices (for example research and practices not specifically related to

foreign language teaching, but to content areas in general) have also continued to

progress.

The field of teaching young learners, especially teaching English as a foreign

language to them, has also expanded in the last 10-15 years, but is only just beginning

to be researched (Cameron, 2003). For this reason theory and research evidence are

needed from beyond the FL classrooms to be able to understand how and what we

know about children as learners, and as language learners.

The first part of the chapter starts with an overview of some influential theories

about how children learn from two major theorists in developmental psychology, Piaget

and Vygotsky. Their theories can be applied to classroom learning, including language

classrooms.

This is followed by a section on how children learn foreign languages in

primary schools. First the context of language learning is investigated briefly,

comparing the natural settings with bilingual and formal classroom education settings.

This is about where to teach. Then the critical period hypothesis is discussed, with

some evidence from studies with children of different ages. This is about when to teach.

It is followed by the presentation and discussion of different factors that are thought to

influence the efficiency of language teaching at a young age. Both theory and results

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from empirical studies are used to help to shed light on this complex situation where

young learners are taught another language in schools. This is about how to teach.

The third part of this chapter deals in detail with communicative language

teaching in English language classrooms, and how this approach influences the

materials and the methods that are used in these classrooms. Research evidence is

presented on different issues that were found to be influencing how the primary

language teachers approached or managed to use communicative language teaching in

their classrooms.

The last part of the chapter discusses a specific question, the mother tongue use.

This will be related to the theory of communicative language teaching, and to the

particular context of foreign language classes, where the teacher and the students share

the L1. Evidence is presented on the L1 use of the teacher in settings both from classes

with older students and from classes with young learners.

2.2 How children learn

2.2.1 Introduction

Before discussing how children learn foreign languages it is necessary to talk briefly

about some basic theories concerning child development in general. This will help to

establish the theory behind what is known about a more specific field, the child as a

second/foreign language learner.

The two major developmental psychologists to be discussed here, and whose

ideas have influenced our knowledge of children, are Piaget and Vygotsky.

2.2.2 Learning through stages

One of the most influential theories in the 20th century about children‘s development

was proposed by Piaget. Jean Piaget (1896-1980), a child psychologist, used

experimental studies to find out more about children‘s mental development.

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The results of his studies showed that children are active learners. When a child is faced

with a problem, for example how to eat from a bowl, she or he would try to solve the

problem by trying out different ways, using her/his hand, or a fork or spoon for

example, and on doing this action repetitively, finally she or he would gain muscle

control and master the action. The same happens later on, when instead of a concrete

object the child is faced with an abstract problem. Piaget claimed that thinking develops

by the actions carried out internally. He assumed that these actions, rather than the

development of the first language itself, were fundamental to their cognitive

development (Piaget, 1953).

This theory has very important implications, as it sees the child as an active

learner and thinker, who constructs his or her own knowledge from working with the

surrounding objects or ideas. This is a key to understanding how children respond to

tasks and activities in the language classrooms too. Different activities offer different

challenges and opportunities for learning (Cameron, 2003). (Although the terms ‗tasks‘,

‗activity‘ and ‗exercise‘ have specific meanings in language teaching, throughout this

thesis they are used interchangeably in a more general way to refer to what the children

are asked to do in the classrooms.)

Piaget also believed that there are stages of development, and at each stage the

child is capable of doing some types of thinking, but not capable of others (Gruber and

Voneche, 1977). The four development stages identified by Piaget are as follows:

Sensorimotor stage, Preoperational stage, Concrete operational stage and Formal

operational stage (Lin, 2002).

Piaget proposed that there could not be real abstract thinking before the age of

eleven. He also suggested that children‘s logical thinking gradually develops as they

acquire more and more knowledge and intellectual skills.

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Piaget‟s theory in classrooms

These findings could have important implications in classrooms, including foreign

language classrooms. If there are stages in the children‘s cognitive development, then at

different ages their cognitive capabilities could place limits on what can be expected

from them, to do and to learn, not just in natural settings, but also in classrooms,

including the foreign language classrooms.

During the 1970s and 1980s, Piaget‘s works inspired the transformation of

European and American education, including both theory and practice. Hungarian

education (including language teaching) during the Communist area (from the 60s to

the 90s) was characterised by teaching children facts, carefully graded to their levels.

They had to memorise these facts, and the activities usually consisted of repetitive

practising of exercises which needed to use the (newly) learned rules (Medgyes and

Miklósy, 2000).

Creative thinking and communication with each other through pair or group-

work was not part of the usual teaching methods up until only a few years ago in the

state schools.

Piaget‘s theories have been criticised for some time now, especially since more

recent research showed that if tasks are appropriate to young children, they may be able

to have the formal, logical thoughts which Piaget thought impossible (Donaldson,

1978). Another criticism of Piaget‘s ideas is that as he was mainly focusing on

individual children, learning alone, he did not take into consideration the social factor,

that children seldom learn anything alone, but are usually surrounded by other children

and adults. The social constructivists (Vygotsky and Bruner) started to lay more

emphasis on how people interact and how this interaction and language use enables

children to learn about the world around them. These will be discussed next.

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2.2.3 The social environment

Vygotsky‘s theory adds some very important knowledge to the theory about how

children learn, including learning languages. Two ideas will be discussed in more detail

here, one being the language as a tool for learning, and the other, the idea of learning

happening in a social context. First I will summarise the two theories, then I will relate

them to the classroom context, where young students learn subjects, and most

importantly for this thesis, where they learn a foreign language.

The social context

Vygotsky (1896-1934), a developmental psychologist, believed that the

development of the child‘s first language around the second year of his/her life causes a

fundamental shift in cognitive development. He argued that language provides children

with a new tool; they can organise information through the use of words and symbols.

Children develop two types of speech: an outward talk and an inner speech. The inner

speech helps children to organise, regulate, and control behaviour, while the outward

speech allows them to communicate with the people around them (Wertsch, 1985:127).

From birth onward there are people around the child, interacting with him/her, helping

him/her to learn by showing objects, talking about them, talking while playing, reading

stories or asking questions. This is a very important element of Vygotsky‘s theory. The

child does not learn alone, but from her or his environment and the people (parents,

older siblings, other adults) who are around him or her and help in the learning process

(Cole, John-Steiner, Scribner, and Souberman, 1978).

Learning through mediation

With the help of adults or older children, the young child is able to do more and

understand more than if she or he was alone. Vygotsky called the location within which

a child is capable of achieving things only with the help of an adult the Zone of

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Proximal Development (ZPD). He believed that adults mediate between the children

and the world. Different children would make different uses of the help offered,

according to their own ZPD (Vygotsky, 1987). Parents and other adults who know the

child find different ways to help the child solve problems. They know what their child

can and cannot do and when the task is just a bit too difficult for the child to do alone,

the adults can offer physical help. They can help in the process, for example turn on

the tap for the child to wash hands, or they can show how to do the task and then ask

the child to repeat it.

There is another important way to help, when the adult does not give physical

help, but uses verbal help only. This is labelled scaffolding (Wood, Bruner and Ross,

1976). The following ways of scaffolding were found in experiments with American

parents and their children: The parents made the children interested in the tasks. They

also simplified the tasks, often by suggesting doing it in smaller steps. They kept

reminding the child of the aim; they showed what was important to do and what was

not; they calmed down the child if she or he got frustrated (Wood, Bruner and Ross,

1976).

Routines and rituals can be very useful when young children learn their mother

tongue. The way in which parents read bedtime stories to their children can be a type

of scaffolding. The story is read again and again, with pictures and the parents‘

explanations, questions, miming, or body language, until the child wants another story,

a ‗new‘ one. The routine of the reading is then mixed with new elements as the new

story is read, again and again, until it becomes familiar too. The use of the language

during these activities is the key to the learning process (Bruner, 1983, 1990).

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Vygotsky‟s theories in classrooms

When children go to school, their teachers also need to and can help them to learn.

They can be helped physically (for example showing them how to hold a pencil) or

verbally. Teachers can scaffold children, for example, by suggesting how to do things,

praising, focusing the activities, rehearsing, organising the activities, reminding the

children of the task, modelling, or providing part-whole activities (Wood, 1998).

Language plays a very important role in every classroom (Hickey and Williams, 1996;

Tollefson, 2002). When children enter school they have already acquired a great deal of

procedural knowledge of the grammar and lexicon of their native language, but very

young learners may not have all forms of higher-order mental processing, for example

attending, planning and reasoning (Cole, 1996; Lantolf and Appel, 1994, Wertsch,

1998).Children have learned their native language spontaneously as they participated in

everyday social activities but they are usually quite unaware of this, and find it difficult

to make the rules or forms of the L1 explicit. The goal was not to learn the language,

per se, but to participate in the community (Lantolf, James and Thorne, 2006).In the

foreign language classrooms the role of the new language is different. Unlike the

mother tongue, foreign languages may be taught consciously and intentionally, often

through the use of written texts. This means that alongside the spontaneous language

learning processes, often more complex, conscious, and intentional forms and uses of

the foreign language may also be taught, especially to older students (Lantolf and

Thorne, 2006). This also helps them develop a conscious awareness of the meanings of

their mother tongue, which would feed back to the knowledge of the additional

languages. Vygotsky suggests that the process of learning a foreign language is

mediated by the native language. As Holme (2004) points out: ―Language provides us

with the means to think about the language‖ (page 209).

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 This raises the question about the use of mother tongue in foreign language

classrooms. From this theoretical point of view, the mother tongue is already present in

any foreign language classes in the possibility of using it to communicate, and also to

think. At the beginning of the learning all inner speech is in the L1. Some argue that a

person can only have a single inner speech, the one that was developed in the mother

tongue (Ushakova, 1994). Anecdotal evidence and empirical studies show that this may

not be totally true, as some reports suggest that people can think and even dream in a

second or foreign language. This may be possible only for more advanced learners, who

may be able to apply L2 forms, to regulate themselves in tasks, but this depends on the

concrete tasks and the interaction between the individuals (Lantolf and Thorne, 2006;

Swain and Lapkin, 2000). These learners may also be surrounded by native speakers

and L2 environment more than young learners learning English as a foreign language in

countries like Hungary. It is highly unlikely that in Hungarian elementary classes,

beginner or even intermediate pupils use L2 inner speech for any/extended amount of

time. The available research evidence is not conclusive on this point, but if these pupils

think in their mother tongue, then forbidding them to use it may not help them to learn

the additional language more easily or quickly. Swain and Lapkin (2000) argue that

language derives its mediating cognitive functions from its use in social activities. They

point out that this may be a different approach from the usual view on the role that L1

plays in L2 learning language as transfer ―only‖ (Kellerman, 1995; Odlin, 1989). Swain

and Lapkin (2000) suggest that it may be possible that the L1 use during L2 activities

could also be part of the learning process.

2.2.4 Conclusion

Research with young children shows that they learn in a different way from adults.

There are developmental stages that need to be taken into consideration while they are

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being taught, as well as the knowledge that language itself becomes a tool for them to

learn about the world around them. As learning takes places in a social context, this

needs to be remembered and acted upon, too. Carers as well as teachers can assist the

child‘s development by helping at the right time, with the right amount of help,

scaffolding the learning in their ZPD. The next part is discussing theory and research

about children as language learners.

2.3 How children learn foreign languages

2.3.1 Introduction

At the beginning of this section a short introduction is given about how young learners

learn a foreign language/s in naturalistic settings and in bilingual or immersion

programmes, followed by the discussion on the optimal starting age, followed by the

factors that are reported to be influencing the success of the early modern foreign

language programmes.

It has to be mentioned here that in the whole thesis I only considered those

settings where the L2 language is taught at a later stage than the mother tongue, under

conditions of formal instruction, as opposed to the naturalistic acquisition of a second

language in bilingual settings, where the mother tongue and another language are

taught/learned at the same time, for example where the parents speak different

languages and these languages are acquired at the same time, simultaneously.

2.3.2 The learning context

A belief commonly held is that young children learn any language almost effortlessly if

they find themselves in a new setting, for example if their parents move to a country

where a different language is spoken.

Research in naturalistic settings (in a country where another language is spoken from

the child‘s mother tongue) shows that those children who are learning a second

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language still go through stages, similar to when they were learning the L1, but the time

they need to learn the new language is less, especially if the L2 is similar to the L1. The

reason for this is probably because if there are similarities, the child can draw on the

previous knowledge, compare words, expression and grammatical structures (Ervin-

Tripp, 1974).When a child is learning a new language in a naturalistic setting, s/he also

goes through the silent period, listening but not speaking, just as when learning the

mother tongue (Gibbons, 1985).

In these settings there is also the question of age. Some conclude that older

children learn faster since they can build on their mother tongue and because their

cognitive development is also more advanced (Ervin-Tripp, 1974). This may be the

case, but it is difficult to compare different ages, as a four-year-old would know less

about the world than an eight-year-old for example, and so would use the language

differently, even in their mother tongue.

The naturalistic setting is considered the best for language learning, as the child

is surrounded by the language and has a big amount of L2 input. When the language is

taught in an institution, a school for example, and outside the institution there is little or

no opportunity to hear and use the new language, different methods are used to try to

achieve the best possible results.

There are different immersion and bilingual programmes in different settings,

which often offer more lessons in the target language and inclusive use of it, to try to

maximise the amount of input and time for the students. These bilingual education and

immersion programmes are often thought to be superior to MFL teaching in formal

types of classrooms (Comblain and Rondal, 1993), although there does not seem to be

clear empirical evidence on the effectiveness of each of the methods (immersion,

traditional instruction, ‗meet the language‘ conception) (Brusch, 1993).

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 Because of lack of space this thesis cannot evaluate the difference or usefulness

of the different teaching methods in these contexts. It can only point out that in

Hungary a majority of the language teachers and parents seem to believe that

elementary children would learn the L2 better in bilingual settings or in total immersion

programmes, than they can in formal classroom settings. Many parents want their

children of primary age to progress to bilingual secondary schools, in the hope that they

would have a greater chance to pass the final school leaving language examination at

the age of eighteen (Nemzeti Alaptanterv, 2003), or some other certificate in English

language proficiency set by either the Hungarian Centre for Language Learning

(Idegennyelvi Továbbképző Központ), or an outside body, for example Cambridge

Exams or the IELTS (International English Language Testing System) Exam (see

British Council, Hungary, 2009).

The research reported in this thesis was conducted in formal classroom settings

and so the review of the literature concentrates on the classroom context. However,

some evidence from bilingual and naturalistic settings is also reported, comparing these

with each other and with the special case of the classrooms.

The formal classroom setting

Although in contexts like Hungary, English is not used outside the classroom much,

since globalisation children still encounter English as a foreign language, especially in

the use of the internet, news, music and films. These opportunities to hear the L2 can be

used to add to the opportunities for natural language learning (see Bebermeier, 1989

about an encounter method in Germany). The focus of the present study is the

classroom setting itself, and the learning process there, assuming that most primary

pupils have little or no opportunity to use or practise the L2 outside the classroom.

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 To be able to start to understand what is taking place in the observed

classrooms, it is important to realize that young children are different and need to be

taught differently from adults. When entering their classrooms, the observer will

quickly become aware of the characteristics of the young learners‘ classrooms:

Some differences are immediately obvious: children are often more

enthusiastic and lively as learners. They want to please the teacher rather
than their peer group. They will have a go at an activity even when they
don‘t quite understand why or how. However, they also lose interest more
quickly and are less able to keep themselves motivated on tasks they find
difficult. Children do not find it easy to use language to talk about
language; in other words, they do not have the same access as older learners
to metalanguage that teachers can use to explain about grammar or
discourse. Children often seem less embarrassed than adults at talking in a
new language, and their lack of inhibition seems to help them get a more
native like accent. But these are generalisations, which hide the detail of
different children, and of the skills involved in teaching them. We will find
that important differences do arise from the linguistic, psychological and
social development of the learners, and that, as a result, we need to adjust
the way we think about the language we teach and the classroom activities
we use. (Cameron, 2003:1)

What is best to be taught and how depends on the linguistic, the psychological and

social development of the learners. This is closely related to their age. A six-year-old

would learn very differently from a ten-year-old. The question arises then: When

should foreign language teaching start in (primary) schools? Is there an optimal age?

2.3.3 Starting time

At what stage should foreign language teaching begin in schools? The common

assumption is that the earlier the better. As English has become the lingua franca of

global communication, many countries including Hungary are offering earlier and

earlier language teaching, sometimes even starting in kindergartens. There is a huge

demand for the early start, and even very recent research indicates that there is a

straightforward connection between the starting age and the outcomes. For example

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Larson-Hall (2008) suggests that with even minimal exposure to an instructed foreign

language (4 hours per week) those students who started to learn earlier (before school)

performed better in linguistic tasks than those starting it later (at the age of 12).

Opposed to this view, other research findings have suggested that there are other factors

that are also responsible for success, not only the starting age itself.

The following section shows that the issue of the starting age is a complex one.

As Johnstone (2002) indicates, it is impossible to provide a single answer to the

question of the ―age factor‖. I can only provide discussion of the key issues, and show

some research evidence relating to the starting age debate.

The Critical Period Hypothesis

Although the Critical Period Hypothesis (CPH) was proposed about the L1 learning

abilities, until recently it was widely assumed that there is a critical time to learn

additional languages too. Because of this common belief, it is important to discuss the

evidence from research with the mother tongue here first.

The Critical Period Hypothesis was first proposed by Penfield and Roberts

(1959) and was popularised by Lenneberg (1967). It states that lateralisation in the

brain at around puberty closes down the brain‘s ability to acquire the first language. It

is believed that the crucial period of the first language acquisition ends around the age

of 4-5 years and if no language is learned before then, it can never be learned in a

normal and fully functional sense.

Modern techniques of magnetic imaging of the working brain do indeed show

that when language is being processed young children differ from adults in that

different parts of the brain appear to be activated (Small and Burton, 2002). The

assumption is that young children are born with a special innate capacity for language

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which enables them to learn their mother tongue/s (for bilingual children, both

languages), but after the age of puberty this ability disappears.

Critical Period Hypothesis challenged

Recent research has failed to find an exact point when ability of learning languages

declines. Hakuta, Bialystok and Wiley (2003) and Chiswick, Lee and Miller (2004)

argued that instead of a specific time, there is a gradual decline in the ability to learn

languages, over the whole life time. There are also exceptions to this assumption

though, for example Lomb Kató, a Hungarian interpreter, translator and language

genius, who mastered 17 languages, all during her adulthood. She was the advocate of

language learning at any time, as the following story shows:

… I met a woman in Hungary named Lomb Kató… At the time we met she
was 86. Her last words to me changed my life: ‗Stephen, you are so young.
So many years left, so many languages to acquire!‘ (I was 54 at the time.)
What an inspiration! (Krashen, 2002)

It seems that some individuals are able to continue learning languages easily, even at a

much later stage of their lives. They may use different techniques from younger

learners, building on their existing and increasing knowledge of the world and the other

languages they speak.

The CPH also claims that children can acquire the language/s ‗naturally‘, while

this is limited in older adolescents and adults, who, instead, need to ‗learn‘ it with

conscious effort. Applied linguists still have not come to an agreement on the

relationship (if it exists) between the age factor and the CPH. (See Nikolov and

Djigunovic, 2006 for the overview of the arguments.)

The main argument behind the early start was often the belief that only young

learners can achieve a more native-like accent. Contradicting these beliefs, some recent

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research findings, (for example Marinova-Todd, 2003 cited in Nikolov and Djigunovic,

2006: 237; Moyer, 2004; Nikolov 2000c; Urponen 2004 cited in Nikolov and

Djigunovic, 2006: 237) provide some evidence that some learners after puberty are also

capable of achieving native-like competence and native-like accent. The learners in

these studies had different opportunities to learn and use the language (in classrooms

and in naturalistic settings). It seems that some individuals are able to learn a native-

like accent, although this was not true for all participants of the studies. This suggests

that other factors may also contribute to how closely any individual can attain a native-

like accent.

This assumption is also supported by some research findings that showed that

even some children find learning accents difficult. According to Harada (2006), early

immersion children, with English as their first language, could learn the phonetics of a

new language namely Japanese, but their L1 system still influenced the phonetics of the

new language and their accent was noticeably non-native. Other studies also found that

children, after 4 years of enrolment in English medium schools still had a strong accent

(Flege, Birdsong, Bialystok, Mack, Sung and Tsukada, 2005).

These research findings point to the complexity of the question, and as Birdsong

(2006) concluded, although there is an understandable tendency to seek to isolate one

single mechanism that is responsible for success in language learning (for example the

age factor); this approach can only be a simplification of a very complex issue.

Factors beyond the „age factor‟

Nikolov and Djigunovic (2006) suggested factors that may also be responsible for the

successful acquisition of a native-like accent. Here are five possibilities: what the first

language is, what opportunities were afforded to the learners, what type of test they

were tested with, if they indeed wished to sound like a native speaker at all, and how

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motivated they were to work on their accent. DeKeyser (2000) believes that the role of

language ‗aptititude‘, as opposed to the critical period, plays a very important role in

language learning. Bellingham (2000) also concluded that there are other contextual

and developmental factors, not just age, which may make it more difficult for older

learners to learn a second or foreign language. One very important factor is where the

language is learned. This thesis concentrates on classroom contexts, but at present even

the classroom context for early language learning varies so much from one part of

Europe to another that it is very difficult to provide any generalisation that would apply

equally across the full and diverse range of states from where there is research evidence

on the effectiveness of an early or later start (Johnstone, 2002).

The present study cannot evaluate and compare the different research evidence

from classroom settings across many countries and different age groups, because of

lack of space. For the purposes of my thesis, I conclude that there is evidence

suggesting that the starting age is only one important factor amongst many which

influences the outcomes.

Different ages, different ways

How easy it is to teach young learners may depend on many factors. Different age-

groups even within elementary schools have different social and cognitive capabilities.

They may also have different attitudes towards learning a foreign language. Younger

learners at six-year-old often enjoy games, but by the time they are nine, they may

perceive the activities as ‗learning‘ (Djigunovich, 1995). Their anxiety level also

differs; young learners, for example five – seven-year-olds, may not be as anxious to

use the language or guess the meaning of an unknown word. On the other hand, older

students, for example eleven-year-olds, may be more self-conscious or anxious, but

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may also have some explicit strategies to handle anxiety, for example asking the

teacher if they do not know something (Low, Brown, Johnstone and Pirrie, 1995).

Younger learners are likely to be able to learn the sound system and the

language system more easily (Zdorenko and Paradis, 2008), have more time overall for

learning, be able to establish productive links between the two languages, and learn the

new language mainly intuitively; and the new language could have a positive influence

on their overall development (Johnstone, 2002).

On the other hand, older learners may have a clearer understanding of why they

are learning a new language (Johnstone, 2002). They could also build on their existing

knowledge about the world, while facing a new concept, or learning new vocabulary

(Ausubel, 1964). They are also likely to have acquired a wider range of strategies for

learning. This, alongside the established literacy in their mother tongue could help them

to become more efficient in learning a foreign language (Johnstone, 2002).

Conclusion

Research evidence does not give a clear result yet on what the optimal age is to start

learning a foreign language. The age of the pupils and the stage their development are

not the only variables that may influence the successful outcome of early foreign

language teaching or learning. Other variables can also include, for example the length

and the frequency of the programme, the content, the methodology used, motivation, a

positive attitude to the language, and teachers who are both proficient in the language

and trained to teach young learners (Nikolov and Djigunovic, 2006: 250-251). While

the debate still goes on about the best time to start to learn a MFL, many European

countries, including Hungary, start teaching it early. The teachers do not decide when it

is best to teach, but (hopefully) teach their students, whatever age they are, with the

method for that particular age group (Agullo, 2006). To teach with the right approach

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for different ages, the characteristics of the learners and other factors, for example the

social setting and educational provision, need to be taken into consideration for the

programme to be successful. The next section shows some factors that are thought to be

influencing the process and the outcome of teaching young learners a foreign language

in primary schools.

2.3.4 Factors affecting language teaching/learning in primary FL classes

Introduction

There is a renewed interest in early language learning in many countries. How

successful it is to start teaching in elementary schools may not be easy to assess. The

reason for this is complex. What would be considered success? To be able to pass an

exam? Or to be able to manage to converse with a native speaker? Or something

different?

The present thesis cannot undertake the task of comparing the different

outcomes with the processes of foreign language teaching to young learners. It can only

summarise some research evidence and show some variables that are believed to be

influencing the outcome of the language teaching. The reason for looking into these

factors is because later, in the qualitative analysis, I will suggest that some of these

factors also influence the way the Hungarian teachers were teaching, including the use

of their mother tongue, which will be the focus of the analysis.

External and internal factors

The following table shows research evidence about factors and favourable

circumstances that could influence successful language teaching in primary schools.

These factors or circumstances are divided into two main categories, external and

internal, although they are also interrelated:

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 Table 2.1: External and internal factors influencing language teaching

External factors
The socioeconomic status of the institute Burstall, 1975
Burstall, 1977
Appropriate funding for the programme Davenport, 1978
Appropriate aims, guidelines and approaches Johnstone, 2002
Trained teachers, in-service continuous training, professional development Girard, 1996
Johnstone, 2002
Suitable, comprehensible materials according to age Burstall, 1975
Burstall, 1977
Davenport, 1978
Girard, 1996
Johnstone, 2002
Adequate scheduling of the programme Girard, 1996
Sufficient time in the curriculum for Johnstone, 2002
-time overall
-time distributed
-time engaged
Long term policy, early to life long learning, continuity Johnstone, 2002
Level of parental support Burstall, 1975
Burstall, 1977
Hennel-Brzozowska and
Pamula, 1999
Quisenberry-Alvarado,
1989
Connection and cooperation between primary and secondary schools about Bahls, 1991b
the foreign language teaching Davenport, 1978
Girard, 1996
Course books that help with the transition from primary to secondary Piepho, 1997
schools
Adequate system for monitoring Johnstone, 2002
Integrated assessment and quality control Girard, 1996
Incorporation of insights from practitioners and other research Johnstone, 2002

Internal factors
1) Teacher related factors
The level of training and expertise of the teacher Burstall, 1975
Burstall, 1977
Davenport, 1978
Girard, 1996
The enthusiasm of teachers Grittner, 1991
Teachers‘ proficiency level Girard, 1996
Grittner, 1991
Collaborative teaching (NS teacher with NNS teacher in a classroom) Carless, 2006
2) Learner related factors
Sex of the students Burstall, 1975
Burstall, 1977
Maturational factors Burstall, 1975
Burstall, 1977
Attitudes of students, motivation, individual differences, cognitive Burstall, 1975
abilities, aptitude complexes Burstall, 1977
Dörnyei, 1994
Dörnyei, Nyilasi and
Clement, 1996
Nikolov and Djigunovic,
2006
Robinson, 2001
The teachers‘ tolerance level of the silent period Gibbons, 1985

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 The students‘ need to play Bahls, 1991a
DeMartino, 1986
Piepho, 1997
Rück, 1991a
Wallace, 1977
Williamson, 1991
Toys being used to teach the language (hand puppets, stuffed animals) Rück, 1991
Williamson, 1991
Use of songs Williamson, 1991
3) Context related factors
Mode of presentation (visuals, personalised content) Burstall, 1975
Burstall, 1977
Grittner, 1991
Type of instruction (metacognitive) Goh and Taib, 2006
Instead of teaching language/s, developing children‘s interests in them Fidler, 2006
(―awakening‖)
Type of tasks, task demand, age and tasks Cameron, 2003
Pintér, 2006
Redmond, 1994
Using computers (Adaptive Hypermedia System) Espada, Garzia, Fuentes
and Gomes
How much planning time is given for activities Philp, Oliver and MacKey,
2006
Active student participation Burstall, 1975
Burstall, 1977
Cumming-Potvin,
Renshaw, and van
Kraayenoord, 2003
Grittner, 1991
Supplementary activities Davenport, 1978
4) Language related factors
Type and amount of oral and written language, textbooks Grittner, 1991
Consolo, 1992
Teaching multiword sequences (formulaic language) Wray, 2008
Scaffolding (asking questions, making suggestions, simplification of Cabrera and Martinez,
language input with linguistic and interactional adjustments, repetition, 2001
comprehension checks, gestures) Cumming-Potvin,
Renshaw, and van
Kraayenoord, 2003
Experimenting with the language Cumming-Potvin,
Renshaw, and van
Kraayenoord, 2003
Type of feedback (recast, prompts, corrections) Lyster and Mori, 2006
Explicit and implicit information about the language Bialystok, Fröhlich and
Howerd, 1978

The external factors are related to the location and the status of the school, the design of

the programme and the availability of teachers, materials and time. Parents also play a

special role in choosing, and supporting a programme. Institutions in good areas, with

money to spend on training teachers and getting useful materials to teach the language

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are in a better position than those who are in poorer settings, without the support of the

community.

The internal factors can be divided into teacher, learner, context and language

related factors. Teachers who teach young learners need to know not only the language,

but also how to teach this age group. If they themselves are interested and keen on

learning, this can also help to motivate their pupils. Different students learn differently.

The age and the sex of the students may influence their preferred way of learning,

young learners needing more toys, games, stories, songs and plays. Their motivation

can also be one of the key elements in the success.

Research evidence also suggests that the methods used in the classrooms can

hugely influence the progress and the learning outcomes. Visual, personalised context,

the use of computer programmes with active student participation, can help both

increase motivation and maintain attention. The type of textbook the class uses also

seems to be an influencing factor. How much preparation time is given for activities

and the kind of activities used are also shown to have some affect on the possible

success. Some suggest that instead of teaching a foreign language to young learners,

developing the students‘ interests in languages would be more beneficial. This is

referred to as ‗awakening‘.

The use of the language can also help the learning process. Young children

usually prefer speaking activities to text-based activities, where they can experiment

with the new language, and can get positive and useful scaffolding and feedback from

their teachers. It is also suggested that the type of instruction (for example

metacognitive instruction, where the learners are taught strategies to manage tasks that

may be otherwise difficult for them, for example listening activities) in some cases may

help their performance and reduce their anxiety level.

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 How much explicit and implicit information is given about the language can

also be another variable. Instead of teaching single L2 words, it is suggested that

teaching multiword sequences (formulaic language) could also help with the

acquisition.

These factors are not separate, but interrelated, as for example a school that has

finances to support teacher training can employ teachers who know the latest research

evidences and methods and who can teach with the materials provided, in the most

useful way. Those institutions that struggle to keep up with the different demands may

have teachers come and go, who, without the proper materials and knowledge may not

be as successful as they could be. Sometimes one factor alone may determine a change

in the success, for example a really enthusiastic teacher may change the whole ethos of

the language teaching by her/his appropriate methods and self made materials.

2.3.5 Conclusion

There are many factors, both external and internal, that can influence and affect

the success of the early language programmes. All over the world the context and

content of MFL teaching to young learners may vary hugely, making it very difficult to

generalise about the most effective ways to teach. Different places, at different times

emphasise some factors, while maybe neglecting some others. Recently much emphasis

has been put on the way of presentation and the choice of activities, suggesting that

communicative language teaching can be the most successful strategy (Cameron, 2003;

Hedge, 2000; Littlewood, 1981). The next section looks into what communicative

language teaching means. It also discusses the notion of communicative competence

and threshold level. At the end of the section some communicative course books will be

mentioned that are especially targeted for young learners.

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2.4 Communicative Language Teaching
From the early days second and foreign language research has been a wide, varied field,

involving a variety of disciplinary perspectives. The dominant theoretical influences

seem to have been linguistic and psycholinguistic, with the recently more widespread

acceptance of the sociolinguistic construct of communicative competence as the goal of

second (and foreign) language teaching and learning (Mitchell and Myles, 2004: 3). To

be able to see if the teachers in the present research were teaching communicatively,

first the definition, the theory and practical issues around the idea of communicative

language teaching need to be discussed.

2.4.1 Communicative competence

Communicative competence is the aim of the communicative approach, as Canale and

Swain (1980) defined it:

… The communicative approach … is … an integrative one in which

emphasis is on preparing second language learners to exploit — initially
through aspects of sociolinguistic competence and strategic competence
acquired through experience in communicative use of the first or dominant
language — those grammatical features of the second language that are
selected on the basis of, among other criteria, their grammatical and
cognitive complexity, transparency with respect to communicative function,
probability of use by native speakers, generalizability to different
communicative functions and contexts, and relevance to the learners‘
communicative needs in the second language. (page 29)

The central goal of the communicative approach is to help the learners to communicate

effectively and appropriately in the second/foreign language. This means that the

learners are able to express their needs and interpret what the other people said in the

contexts they find themselves. The learners in this study were from a homogeneous

group, whose needs of the foreign language were fairly similar, but some other

learners‘ needs can be very different. An adult immigrant worker in a foreign country

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will have very different objectives from a child who may not meet a foreigner for a few

years yet, except maybe on holidays with his/her parents.

For this reason it is not possible to give a single approach with prescribed

teaching method(s) to achieve communicative competence (Richards and Rogers,

2001); it is only possible to give a framework of the major components to achieve

―native likeness‖ (Canale, 1983).

There are still some common principles that most people who promote a

communicative view to language teaching share:

 The goals of CLT teaching are not simply to acquire ‗linguistic competence‘ but

also to acquire ‗communicative competence‗.

 The need to analyse the learners‘ needs and to specify the language learning

objectives that help to fulfil their real or presumed needs.

 The aim is to provide the curriculum in functional-notional terms rather than

structural principles (at least partly)

 The aim is to develop a syllabus that takes the individual learners into account

and allows learner autonomy (at least partly)

 A commitment to open ended, message oriented use of the L2 in the classroom

(through the use of instructional activities such as games, problem solving, and

role play, as well as through the use of the L2 for classroom communication)

(Mitchell, 1986: 8).

As opposed to the grammar-translation approach, where a language was learned by

reading and translating the foreign language texts, and during these activities the

teacher‘s role was to provide the explanation of the grammar items and the translation

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of the words, when the language is taught communicatively the teacher‘s role is to

represent the native speaker, as well as managing learning, setting up activities,

organising resources, guiding students in group work, encouraging contributions,

monitoring activities and diagnosing the further needs of the students, as well as

providing and presenting the new language (Hedge, 2000: 63).

Although some studies suggested that communicative classrooms may not be

totally successful in achieving high levels of linguistic competence, there is

increasingly convincing empirical evidence that learners can learn ―naturally‖ in a

communicative classroom settings (see Ellis, 1994: 602), although the evidence is

mostly from classrooms with older learners. Following the research findings, to be able

to enable the teacher to use activities that promote learning, very different syllabuses

and course books were designed, following the methodological considerations of the

communicative language teaching theory.

The following sections discuss some important aspects of the communicative

syllabuses and the different course books for young learners.

2.4.2 The communicative syllabus

The recommended approaches to teaching (foreign) languages have always been

linked to the perceived purposes (Richardson, 1981: 3). Until the early 1970s the main

purpose of most syllabuses was seen as listing and grading the language content of the

courses, textbooks or examinations. These syllabuses (often called structural or lexical

structural syllabuses) listed formal items to be mastered by the students and contained

restricted vocabulary and sequencing of grammatical structures, for example first

present then past tenses to be learned (Howatt, 1984). From the mid-1970s changes in

methodologies that promoted communicative language teaching (CLT) led to the need

for new approaches in syllabus design. The language was seen not as isolated words

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and grammar structures but as ‗acts of communication‘ (Byram, 2000: 592). The new

approach broadened the categories beyond the narrow linguistic units with use-based

contextual and behavioural components, i.e. units of communication.

Both the terms notional-functional syllabus and communicative syllabus have

been used. The term ‗notions‘ refers to general existential concepts, for example time or

space; and the term ‗language functions‘ refers to the purpose that language is used for,

for example asking for directions or apologising (Littlewood, 1981). One of the main

differences between the previous syllabuses and the communicative syllabus is the way

of categorisation. The previous ones used a synthetic approach or a bottom-up way,

while the communicative syllabus uses an analytic approach, or a top-down view

(Wilkins, 1976). The difference is that while the previous methods expected the

students to gradually build up the language from language items introduced separately

and sequentially, the communicative syllabus design is based on broader units, for

example using situations or texts which allow the students to meet the language and to

be able to see the patterns and rules in the wider context.

Many European communicative syllabuses have been strongly influenced by the

Council of Europe publication, the ―Threshold Level‖ (van Ek, 1975; van Ek and Trim

1991) which has been the basis for the design of many European national syllabuses for

different languages. The new National Core Curriculum for Hungary (Nemzeti

Alaptanterv, 2003: 32) states that the aims and the contents of its Modern Foreign

Language Curriculum have followed the recommendations of the Council of Europe.

The Council of Europe identified the so-called Threshold Level as an objective for

language learning.

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 The following section shows the components and related objectives of the

Threshold Level, followed by a description of the course books which most primary

English language teachers use in Hungary.

2.4.3 Level of proficiency

The overall aim of the Council of Europe recommendations for language learning and

teaching was to ―promote mutual understanding and collaboration among the

inhabitants of [Europe‘s] member states‖ (Byram, 2000: 628). Originally the Threshold

Level was first developed in the 1970s for adults who were learning languages and who

needed to communicate in different contexts, and mostly in English.

The Threshold Level described the different situations (the settings, the

transactions and the roles) and the topics that are likely to be discussed and the

communicative intentions. It then analysed the language and the skills people would

need to be able to communicate in these situations, to fulfil the different language

functions and handle different notions. Language functions included what people need

to do with the language (asking for information, apologising, describing something),

while the different notions are the concepts that can be used to be able to fulfil these

language functions (for example time, place, quality, quantity). A difference is made

between general notions (that can be used in most situations) and specific notions (that

are usually expressed in particular situations only, for example applying for a job) (van

Ek, 1975).

Towards the end of the 1970s the Council of Europe also developed a version of

the Threshold Level for schools. The adaptation of this version had to take into account

not just the different setting, but also the different age groups. The latest version of the

Threshold Level (van Ek and Trim, 1991) did not distinguish between different

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versions for schools and for adults any more. This was possible by allowing an even

greater flexibility in its specification of its elements.

The theory behind the Threshold Level has been influential from the 1970s. The

Common European Framework of Reference for Languages (Council of Europe, 2001),

which has replaced the Threshold level Syllabus, provides common reference levels,

based on what the learners can do at different stages of their learning, categorising them

from basic users to proficient users of the language. This document greatly affects the

design of syllabuses, the development of curricula, and different examinations, as well

as the design of courses and course books.

The books are written with the aim of helping the students to learn to

communicate in the L2 by providing interesting, age-related topics, pictures and

cartoons. The theory behind the design of these course books and their content, which

are being used world wide to teach children, also needs to be discussed here, as it will

later be argued that these books themselves have a very significant effect on the

language learning process in the context of this study, and possibly in many other

primary classrooms.

2.4.4 Course books

New course books have been published at an increasing rate in the last decade or so to

meet the great need for English language teaching material all over the world, as

English has been rapidly becoming the world language. In Hungary the best known

publishers are Oxford, Cambridge and Longman. There are also many smaller

companies that offer a wide variety of course books and other teaching materials,

answering the ever growing demands for English teaching materials. There are some

English teaching books from Hungarian publishers in Hungary, but the foreign ones

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strongly outnumber them (Nikolov, 2000d). Most teachers teaching young learners use

books from abroad, believing their authenticity to be an advantage.

English course books for young learners started to be published in large

numbers about fifteen-twenty years ago in Britain, and they tended to reflect the most

common situation in European countries, with the starting age of language learning at

around the age of eight years. The structure of the books often follows the British

educational system (primary school finishing at the age of about 12). This meant that

the books tended to have three or four levels, and by the end of completing them the

pupils would usually finish primary education and would move on to secondary school

and to a new course at the age of 12 (Scott, Thoghdha, Smowton, Bergner and

Williams, 2004).

Those countries (like Hungary for example) that have a different educational

system, and start to teach English as a foreign language at a different age, need to adapt

if they are using books from Britain. The course book that is designed to be used for

eight-year old beginners, for example, cannot be used with a six year old beginner, as

the cognitive stage of the learners, as well as their abilities, interests and concerns are

quite different. They need different material, even if both the six and the eight year olds

are classed as beginners (Scott, Thoghdha, et al. 2004). There are course books offering

material for pre-school children, without any written text, as well as carefully graded

book families, accommodating the needs of the different age groups.

Young learners (five-twelve years) have similar needs also, and some activities

appear to all young learners, regardless to their ages. Children usually like singing and

rhymes, they like playing and stories, being active and learning about the world around

them. Books that are specially designed for young learners take into consideration the

young learners‘ needs, development, motivation and interests and they are usually built

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around topics, with pictures, songs, narratives and rhymes. The written texts tend to be

limited in length and complexity, and they encourage activities relevant to their

interests, and cognitive development (Cameron, 2003).

The Chatterbox book family (published by Oxford University Press) provides

activities specially designed to teach young learners, and they are widely used in

Hungarian primary classrooms, especially with the younger age group, up to ten years.

They were published at the beginning of the 1990s, and are intended for learners from

seven years upwards. They have 4 levels (4 books) with extra activity books, tapes,

teacher handbooks. The books each have a graded syllabus. The key features of a

typical syllabus are as follows:

It follows a carefully graded syllabus which allows for recycling of

language.

A complete comic-strip adventure story runs through each book, featuring

ace detective Captain Shadow. This provides a memorable context for new
language and maintains motivation.

It involves children in a variety of other fun activities, such as songs,

rhymes, games, and puzzles, which are all used to practise language in an
enjoyable way.

It gives children a thorough grounding in listening, speaking, reading and

writing. (Strange, 1993: 3)

Each unit has selected language items to work with, and different functions and topics

to be introduced. Here is an example, level one and unit one:

Language items Functions and topics

Hello. Goodbye. Greeting and saying

What‘s your name? farewell.
I‘m ... Asking someone‘s name.
My name‘s Woody. Introducing yourself.
Who‘s this? This is ... Introducing others.
Possessives: my/your Talking about possession

The alphabet. (Strange, 1989)

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The teacher‘s handbook (Strange, 1993) available in Hungarian, suggests ways to use

the books. It gives advice on how to start the lesson, how to present the new material,

and how to use the cassette and the exercises. It promotes the communicative exercises,

and suggests the use of the L2 by the teacher while teaching new words (see also on

page 192):

Only use the equivalent word in the mother tongue to explain the meaning
of a word if you do not find any other ways. (Strange, 1993: 5)

It also suggests that the teachers use the L1 while presenting the cartoon story in the

book:

Before you show the new episode, with the students summarise the
previous happenings in Hungarian. The students should talk about what all
they remember from the previous episodes. (page 5)

There are also examples of how to teach songs, how to play games, solve puzzles, how

to teach reading and writing and how to use the tests. At the same time as promoting

communicative oriented teaching, the students‘ work book also contains all the

vocabulary, with its Hungarian translation, that is used in the book. After every 5 units,

there are written tests. These tests check the reading comprehension and vocabulary and

grammar questions (Strange, 1989).

These are the textbooks that are used in many Hungarian elementary classes,

and they are a very important part of the learning. In the classrooms the school text is

always the object of teacher mediation, and teachers develop a ―metalanguage for

talking about the text‖ (Wells and Chang-Wells, 1992: 76). In the FL classrooms,

where the text is in the L2 and the teacher could use both L2 and L1, this instructional

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conversation may weave together not only the oral and written languages and the

discourse of the teacher and the students, but also the two languages.

2.4.5 Conclusion

Section 4 discussed the ideas behind communicative language teaching. This approach

has influenced the syllabus in many countries, as well as the course books currently

being used. The present study cannot evaluate the usefulness of the different methods,

as this would need a longitudinal study from many different settings. It was still

important to summarise the theories behind communicative oriented language teaching,

especially because the researched schools in Hungary all promote CLT and use

syllabuses and course books that are supposed to be used in this way.

For the non-native teachers (NNS or bilingual teacher), who share the students‘

mother tongue, communicative oriented language teaching poses a question that is

usually not present in the second language classrooms where the teacher is a native

speaker (NS or monolingual teacher) who does not share the mother tongue with her or

his students. As Mitchell (1988) has pointed out, several obstacles lie in the path of

communicative language teaching in foreign language classrooms. The ratio of fluent

speakers to learners is one to many, the teacher and the pupils usually share the L1, and

so unlike the situation in many second language classrooms, where the L2 is often the

only available means of communication between teachers and pupils, in the FL

classroom the L2 is ‗only‘ an optional means of communication, being in constant

competition with the shared native language. The next section discusses the challenges

that MFL teachers face when they are implementing the theories of CLT in their

practice.

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2.5 Mother tongue use in the foreign language classrooms

2.5.1 Introduction

Teacher talk in language classrooms has always been a focus of interest in the language

classroom, and it has been extensively researched. One of the main reasons for the

interest is because it has a potential effect on learners‘ comprehension, and this is

hypothesised to be important for L2 acquisition (Ellis, 1994). The bilingual language

teacher‘s discourse may include an extra element, not present in the monolingual

language teacher‘s talk, namely the L1 of the teacher and the class.

In this thesis the teachers‘ L1 use has been examined in detail. This has been

one aspect of the foreign language teachers‘ discourse that has been causing debate for

a long time, as Medgyes (1996) explains:

To use or not to use the mother tongue? - this has been one of the greatest
dilemmas in the foreign language classroom for nearly a century. Prior to
that, the Grammar - Translation method did not only allow the use of L1,
but made it an integral part of the teaching/learning process. On the one
hand, it was one of its main goals to teach the subtle uses of mother tongue,
inasmuch as the learner was expected to translate literary texts from and
into the mother tongue. On the other hand, L1 was an indispensable
teaching device for explaining structures and vocabulary, giving
instructions, doing various kinds of exercises and so on. (p 65)

The recent communicative oriented language teaching assumes and expects L2 use in

the classrooms. If the aim is to provide as much L2 input as possible in the L2

classrooms and to try to teach communicatively, then why is the L1 use still such a big

question? To be able to understand the reason for this, first of all I need to talk briefly

about second language classrooms and compare them to the foreign language

classrooms.

There has been continuous debate on the relative merits of native speakers and

non-native speakers as teachers. It has often been suggested that native speaking

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teachers were superior to non-native speaking teachers, although some researchers

question this assumption (Medgyes, 1996; Moussu and Llurda, 2008). One of the

arguments for assuming that the native speaker can teach the L2 better is because they

usually cannot use the L1 with their classes, and this is thought to promote more

communication between the teacher and the class. The students need to learn to express

themselves in the L2, and also the teachers need to make themselves understood in the

L2. The non-native speaker would use different techniques, just as a native speaker

would, to communicate. There can be non-verbal clues (for example body language,

facial expressions) and also linguistic modifications, for example slowing down,

paraphrasing (see Ellis, 1994: 582 about the main features of teacher talk)

The non-native speaker teacher also can and needs to modify her or his L2

speech, but at the same time could understand and use the students‘ L1 any time. This

could help, because if the students do not understand something, instead of the

linguistic modification, it would usually be easier to say the L1 equivalent of the word

or the sentence. She or he can also explain everything more easily in the L1, including

difficult grammar and background information. Because of the possibility of using the

mother tongue with the students, which would be the natural thing to do, it is much

more difficult for the non-native speaker teacher to sustain the use of the L2 in the

classroom than it is for the native speaker, who is often unable to use the mother tongue

of the students, and so needs to persevere with the L2.

In many contexts where English as a foreign language is taught in schools, the

official policy is that the L1 use in the classrooms should be minimised. Despite this,

evidence shows that in many classrooms the L1 is still widely used. The question then

remain: Why is it that the L1 is still being used? And a more theoretical question: Is

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there a place for the L1 in the foreign language classrooms? The following section

discusses the arguments, showing that there is no easy answer to this question.

2.5.2 The Debate

From the 1970s onwards Hymes‘ (1972) sociolinguistic theory of communicative

competence and later Krashen‘s (1982) psycholinguistic theory of natural second

language acquisition have widely influenced second and foreign language theory and

practice. The results were a widespread belief in the necessity of learners‘ exposure to

‗authentic‘ or ‗natural‘ language in the process of language acquisition. This resulted in

an approach of focus on meaning and purpose, which is viewed as the essence of

authenticity and naturalness, rather than focus on form (Cook, 1997: 224). The

underlying assumption behind natural second language acquisition is the belief that

people (especially children) can learn additional languages as they have learned their

L1, by ‗simply‘ being exposed to the language itself. This assumption would exclude or

severely restrict the use of the L1 in the classrooms. But is it true that L2 learning is

like learning the L1?

„Natural‟ L2 learning

Macaro (2000: 172-174) provides theoretical arguments and counter arguments about

how much L2 learning theory can rely on theory from learning the mother tongue. He

argues that:

1) Although Universal Grammar (Chomsky, 1980) may exist for both L1

and L2 learners, L2 learners, especially older ones, can rely on their
cognitive skills and contextual knowledge and use different learning
strategies.

2) Although there might be Natural Sequences or Natural Order (Krashen,

1981, 1987) in learning both L1 and L2, the sequences can be affected by
the learning context.

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 3) Although learners of L1 and L2 can both explore the new language by
the process of hypothesis testing, L2 learners also have another resource,
their mother tongue. For example they can compare syntactic patterns of the
L2 with their L1.

4) Although L1 learning is believed to be linked to psychological

development, we cannot compare the psychological development of a baby
with a twelve year old for example.

5) Although teacher talk may resemble some features of child-directed

speech in the L1, the teachers cannot provide the same amount of L2 input
as they received in their L1 (thousands of hours of L1 input by the age of
two, compared to the best of 400 hours of input in 5 years in the L2
classrooms).

6) although it is possible to create a ‗natural‗ learning environment in the

L2 classrooms, it will always be different from the home environment, and
also the need to communicate in the L2 classrooms is much less powerful
than at home.‖

Macaro (2000) then concludes that it is not proven that L2 learners can learn the L2

‗naturally‗, like babies acquire their L1. Lugossy (2003: 300) also points out the

inherent paradox in regarding FL classroom discourse as natural communication.

… as soon as the conversation is imposed, it invokes the institutional

purpose (that is: teaching English to foreigners), and it (the L2) ceases to be
authentic as such. … thus the reliance on students‘ mother tongue comes to
be validated by the definition of teaching as an activity primarily meant to
promote learning …and from this perspective, using the L1 cannot be
regarded as good or bad itself, but it is defined by the aim towards which it
is used in the classroom. (page 300)

The following summary shows the arguments for and against the exclusive use of the

L2, but recognises that the present thesis can not deal with the issue in more detail,

because of lack of space.

To use or not to use the L1?

There are some studies that have found a direct correlation between L2 achievement

and the teacher‘s L2 use (Burstall, 1968, 1970; Carroll, 1975; Wolf, 1977 cited in

Turnbull, 2001: 534). Some regard this as the most persuasive theoretical rationale for

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maximising the teacher‘s use of the L2 in FL classrooms. Those who are convinced that

in ideal FL classrooms only the L2 is used (for example Chambers, 1991; Frey, 1988,

Halliwell and Jones, 1991; Krashen and Terrell, 1988; MacDonald 1993) often base

their arguments on these findings, and argue that using the L2 exclusively is the ideal

way to achieve real communication and learning in FL classrooms. Others believe that

the mere exposure to the L2 input does not guarantee that it will be internalised as

intake (for example Chaudron, 1985; Cohen, 1998; Dickson, 1996; Ellis, 1994; Hagen

1992; Hopkins, 1989; Macaro, 1997, 2005; Pattison, 1987; Phillipson, 1992; Turnbull,

2001), and argue that there could be a possible value of the use of the L1.

In settings where outside the classroom there is little opportunity to practise the

new language and even the amount of language teaching is minimal, for example less

than 4 hours per week (Larson-Hall, 2008), it seems really important to provide as

much L2 input as possible in the classroom, and many who would allow the use of

some L1 during the lessons see this clearly and are aware of the possible pitfalls of ‗too

much‘ L1 use. But is it possible and also is it desirable not to use the L1 at all?

There is no strong and comprehensive evidence yet on how much (if any) L1

use is best. Also, there is no conclusive evidence that banning the use of the L1 in

second language classrooms alone would promote the best language learning

environment. The crucial question to be asked in evaluating the role of the mother

tongue in the FL classrooms is therefore whether it brings about learning (Lugossy,

2003). In order to answer the question whether the use of the mother tongue brings

about learning we need empirical evidence.

The following section shows what happens in classrooms, concerning the use of

the L1. Different studies have investigated both the amount of L1 use by teachers and

students, the reasons for using it, and teachers‘ opinions about the use of the L1.

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2.5.3 Empirical studies on L1 use in FL Classrooms

Different countries, different languages

In recent research papers, relating to the use of the L1 by teachers in classrooms, many

different language combinations in many settings have been studied:

Table 2.2: Studies of L1 use of the teacher/students from different countries

Country L1 L2 Study
Brooks and Donato, 1994
Spanish
Anton and DiCamilla, 1998
America English
13 different Duff and Polio, 1990
languages Polio and Duff, 1994
Australia English French Rolin-Ianziti and Brownlie, 2002
Brazil Portuguese English Greggio, 2007
China Chinese English Hird, 1996
Blanko-Iglesias, Broner and Tarone, 1995
Behan, Turnbull and Spek, 1997
Calman and Daniel, 1998
Cohen, 1994
French
Turnbull, 2000
Canada English Shapson, Kaufman and Durwald, 1978
Swain and Lapkin, 2000
Blanko-Iglesias, Broner and Tarone, 1995
Spanish
Cohen, 1994
German Dailey-O‘Cain and Liebscher, 2006
Denmark American Danish Arnfast and Jorgensen 2003
Giauque and Ely 1990
Hawkins 1987
French Macaro 2001
English Rhodes, Christian and Barfield, 1997
England Spanish Anton and DiCamilla 1998
Welsh Dodson, 1985
Many different Pennington, 1999
English
languages
Finland Finnish Swedish Vesterbacka, 1991
English Hawkins, 1987
France French
Italian Causa, 1996
Germany German French Legenhausen, 1991
Holland Dutch English Poulisse and Bongaerts, 1994
Lugossy, 2003
Hungary Hungarian English
Nikolov, 2000a
Carless, 2004
Lin, 1996
Hong Kong Chinese English Pennington, 1995
Swain, 1986
Italy Italian English Macaro, 1995
Japan Japanese English Mori, 2002
Poland Polish Danish Arnfast and Jorgensen, 2003
Hancock, 1997
Jacobson, 1990
Spain Spanish English Rhodes, Christian and Barfield, 1997
Villamil and De Guerrero, 1996
Celik, 2003
Turkey Turkish English
Eldridge, 1996

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These studies investigated the language choices made by the teachers or the students or

both. I will concentrate on the L1 use of the teachers in FL classrooms in the following

part. The following section gives an overview of how much teacher L1 use has been

found by different studies.

Amount of L1 use

How much L1 the teacher uses in any of the researched settings depends on many

variables, one of them being the language itself. Duff and Polio (1990) interviewed

teachers, teaching 13 different foreign languages. Some believed that particular

language combinations were more likely to cause the need to use the L1 than some

other combinations, because those languages that had the furthest distance between

their linguistic systems, (for example Hungarian and English) were more difficult to

teach than those that were more closely related (for example English and German).

There was a big variation on the amount of the L1 use of the teachers, from

almost no use to very extensive L1 use. For example teachers used L1 between 0%-

90% (Duff and Polio, 1990), or only 26% of teachers used the L2 for at least 75% of

the lesson time (Shapson, Kaufman and Durward, 1978), or they used it between 24%

and 72% (Turnbull, 2000). Different ways of calculating the L1 use may be one of the

reasons why the findings vary so much. Chaudron (1988) in his review of earlier

studies estimated that the L1 was used by the teachers, on average, 30% of the time, but

as Macaro (1998) points out, studies are not always clear about whether the percentage

of teacher L1 is the proportion of the total lesson time or the proportion of teacher talk.

This was taken into consideration in the quantitative analysis (see Chapter 4).

Researchers (for example Lugossy, 2003; Macaro, 1998; Rolin-Ianziti and

Brownlie, 2002) themselves also realised that the early studies that only concentrated

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on a qualitative analysis of the data could not differentiate between different uses of the

L1. Studies, using both quantitative and qualitative analysis illuminated some of the

reasons why the L1 is used, by first looking at the amount and frequency of L1 use,

then giving the numbers an interpretation by looking at the contexts, and using

qualitative approaches.

There are different kinds of data that are collected, including interviews and

observation of lessons, to find out how much L1 is used and also to be able to

understand why it is used. The interviews alone may be problematic; as how much the

teachers think they use the L1 and why may be very different from how much they

actually do use. For example in Gearon‘s (1997) study the teachers in the retrospective

interviews reported that they were not aware of the extent of their L1 use.

External and internal factors

Duff and Polio (1990) used both interviews and classroom observation at the University

of California, where thirty-one languages were offered. The qualitative results used data

from a selection of the 13 languages that were taught. The result suggested that there

are classroom-external and classroom-internal variables that may have some influence

on the language of the classrooms and teachers. The classroom-external variables are

defined as those that ‗do not vary with the minute-by-minute activities of the

classrooms‘. The classroom-internal factors, on the other hand, are ‗related to what is

actually taking place in the classroom at a given time‘ (page 155).

The reasons for using the L1, identified by Duff and Polio in their study, were to

teach grammar, for classroom management, or because the two languages were very

different (classroom-internal factors). The classroom-external variables included

departmental policies, and it seemed that these played a crucial role in determining the

teachers‘ L1 use. The teacher who was given strict guidelines not to use the L1 at all

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did indeed manage 100% L2 use during the lessons, while those who were not banned

from using it used the L1, in different amount (99%-10%).

Those who used the L2 almost all or most of the time favoured the use of the L2

for different reasons. Some were trained to do so and believed in its effectiveness,

while others enjoyed the challenge and the fun for their students. Those, on the other

hand, who used the L1 more often were usually concerned about not using the L2

enough, but felt that either the expectation of using the L2 put too much pressure on

them, or it was difficult for them to maintain the use of the L2 in their classrooms.

Some believed that the students would not be able to follow the lesson if they used

more L2. Also, when teaching facts about culture, history and language some preferred

to use the L1 to do so.

Another external factor was the teacher‘s formal training, Teachers trained in the Direct

Method believed strongly that the L1 should not be used and so tried not to use it

themselves. This raised an interesting question for my study, as many of the teachers

had been trained to use one method (grammar-translation and drills) to teach Russian,

with the use of the L1, but then were re-trained to teach English, using the

communicative method, without the use of the L1 (see previously, page 4).

There were studies where teachers could share their opinion and concerns with

researchers. Mitchell‘s (1986) PhD thesis and the published work of it in Mitchell

(1988) investigated, alongside other topics, when the teachers thought it was

appropriate to use the L1. The study was carried out in Scotland, at the University of

Stirling, with early years of secondary students, which would be still primary school

age in Hungary. The importance of this study from my study‘s point of view is because

in Scotland in the early 1980s communicative syllabuses were introduced and the

foreign language teachers were coming to terms with the new ideas of communicative

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language teaching. The teachers‘ use of the L1 in this context was not only a practical,

but also a theoretical question, in the middle of the acquisition-learning debate. This is

the situation now, 20 years on, in Hungary.

The following table shows the views of the Scottish French foreign language

teachers on the L1 use during the lessons for different teaching purposes:

Table 2.3: Teachers‟ views on appropriate use of L2 and L1

Proposed activity No of teachers No of teachers
advocating advocating
L2 L1
Informal talk with pupils 7 6
Organising instructions 30 4
Activity instructions 5 16
Explaining meaning 13
Explaining grammar 30
Teaching background 16
Discussion of objectives 8
Correction of written work 1 1
Running tests 4
Disciplining 1 20

adapted from Mitchell (1988) in Macaro (1998: 96)

The interviews also showed that the majority of the 52 teachers were stressed by

teaching in the L2. These teachers thought that apart from giving instructions to

organise the class, the rest of the activities (teaching grammar, teaching background to

new activities and disciplining) was best done in L1. As the data were collected over an

extended period of time, it was not possible to know whether the perception and

practice of these teachers had changed over the time, but the conclusion was that

changing teaching methods, promoting communicative teaching in the classrooms

seemed to be difficult and challenging.

Another possible factor which may affect the teacher‘s use of the L2 is how

confident they are in using the L2. Franklin (1990) questioned over 200 French teachers

in Scotland about their beliefs and practices, and 83% of the teachers rated ―confidence

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in speaking L2‖ as an important factor of why they might use the L1 during their

lessons. Their confidence related to their previous training and experience with the L2.

Another variable that affected the ease of maintaining the L2 was the type of

activity. Certain activities pose more of a challenge, making different demands and thus

needing different support from the teachers (Cameron, 2003). The following section

shows how the materials, the type of the activity, whether it is oral or written, the

amount of grammar teaching and the use of the textbook, all could influence the

discourse of the lesson

The activity type

Duff and Polio (1990) found (with 13 language teachers, teaching different languages

in California, Los Angeles) that the lesson content and the material that was used

during the lessons was one factor which influenced how much L1 the different teachers

use. Although they themselves warned that generalisation may be limited from their

study, because of the limited context (one university only) and the method they used

(few hours of classroom observation and interview), other researchers also found that

the activity type could influence the teaching method and the amount of L1 use by the

teachers.

Rolin-Ianziti and Brownlie (2002) found that it was more difficult for the

teachers to use the L2 with some activities than others during a single lesson. In

Australia, at the University of Queensland, they audio-taped, transcribed and analysed

five French foreign language lessons. The teachers in each lesson were teaching the

same lesson from the same course book, using the same materials and notes. The

researchers found that all the teachers used a similarly low amount of L1 during most of

the activities, but used more L1 when they had to deal with a grammar activity during

the lesson.

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 Grammar teaching was also one of the main reasons for using the L1 for some

teachers. (Arnett, 2001 cited in Turnbull and Arnett, 2002: 209; Cambra and

Nussbaum, 1997; Castellotti and Moore, 1997; Franklin, 1990; Polio and Duff, 1994).

The reasons that were given for using the L1 when talking about grammar was because

either the students do not understand the explanation in the L2, or do not even have the

equivalent form in their L1. This second reason may also be the case when Hungarians

learn English too; many grammatical forms are different, for example there is no

present perfect verb tense in the Hungarian language.

It is not only grammar teaching that may cause difficulties. Franklin (1990)

interviewed over 200 teachers and found that they believed that giving instructions for

the activities was often easier in the L1. The teachers reported that beginner students

struggled to understand even basic instructions, but depending on the type of activity,

especially when the classes needed to learn grammar, discuss language objectives or

background information, even the more advanced students struggled with the complex

explanation in the L2.

During the different activities the teachers often need to provide feedback about

how well the students managed to do the activities. The available evidence suggests

that giving feedback in the L2 may also be difficult and teachers often use the L1 for

giving feedback. Macaro (1997) in his study used surveys, semi-structured interviews,

and classroom observation to explore the L2 and L1 use amongst experienced,

beginning and student teachers of foreign languages in secondary schools in England

and Wales. The classroom observation revealed that some of the main reasons why the

teachers resorted to the L1 were to give and clarify instructions for classroom activities

and to give feedback to students.

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 Different activities can pose many different difficulties. One factor that

inevitably influences the activity is if it is an oral activity or if it also uses L2 text.

Either to read or to write in the L2 can be often more challenging for the students than

‗simply‘ talk in the L2. The following part investigates how L2 texts may also influence

the teachers‘ methods and language choice and use.

L2 text

When there is a L2 text being used as the input the task demands during the task are

often higher than when only oral activities are used. The teachers need to help their

students to understand the unfamiliar words and structures in the text and help their

students to be able to write in the L2. One way of helping in the L1 is to translate the

unknown vocabulary.

Translating vocabulary or instructions is another reason often given for why the

teachers think they use the L1. Arnett (2001), Castellotti and Moore (1997), Macaro

(1997) and Rolin-Ianziti and Brownlie (2002) all reported that teachers use translation

to make the input comprehensible. These studies did not investigate whether this

method is more or less successful than explaining the unknown words in the L2.

Recently Macaro and Meng‘s (2006) study asked this question, and investigated

how successful translation was, and compared this method with other teachers giving

either L2 definitions of the unknown words or both L1 translation and definitions.

Three Chinese high school classes and their teachers participated in this quasi-

experimental study, that involved pre, post and delayed test design and un-matched

testing procedures. The results are somewhat surprising, because at first the students

who heard both the definitions in the L2 and the L1 translation of them significantly

outperformed the other groups in the follow-up vocabulary test, but in the delayed test

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there was no significant difference between the groups. It seems that translation may

work just as well as L2 definition, in the long run.

As the sample was small and only from one school, more research would be

needed to be able to generalise about the usefulness of translation. But it seems that if

teachers have been using this particular method some of the time it may indeed work

and would actually save time, as translating a L2 word into a L1 word could take less

time than trying to explain it in the L2. But instead of translation they could also use

different strategies to help with comprehension while staying in the L2, maximising the

L2 use and resembling a native-like situation. This would give a good chance for their

students to hear the foreign language and learn to work out the meanings of the words.

Some researchers have argued that instead of only using the L2, it would be

even more beneficial to incorporate both the L1 and L2 vocabulary when teaching

stories with unknown words. Celik (2003) based his findings on data from his study of

an English class in Turkey. He presented a story to the students with carefully chosen

vocabulary items from their L1 (for example … ―the laws are very gevsek… Yes… the

laws are really lax‖ (page 364). Celik reported that the learners quickly learned these

words (in this case the word ‗lax‘. They were also able to use them (although

sometimes misspelled them), and did not themselves use mixed sentences.

Although the research was based on a very limited sample of his own class,

Celik (2003) was clearly experimenting with the possible use of the L1 during his own

teaching. How useful this method may be, and the possible drawbacks and constraints

are also acknowledged by Celik himself, making any generalisation from the study

almost impossible.

How well students understand the L2 text (oral or written) is an important question in

language teaching. Checking comprehension is found to be one reason for using the L1

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in some studies, see for example Castellotti (1997) and Macaro (1997).Castellotti

(1997) analysed recordings from four secondary foreign language classes, with native

French speakers learning Spanish or English. She found that teachers often used the L1

to check their students‘ comprehension or to help the students understand the target

language text. The examples from the actual classroom data show that the teachers

often highlighted important points which they wished to remind the students of, or gave

extra information to help with comprehension.

Polio and Duff (1994) also found that the teachers were using the L1 during

comprehension tasks. In their study 100 minutes of recordings were analysed, from six

different foreign language teachers. The teachers used the L1 to help their students

when they did not understand something written in the L2, although the researchers

remarked on the ―… surprisingly uncommon use of English (L1) in our data for these

six teachers… for occasions when the students appear not to understand the L2…‖

(page 319). They suggested that the reason for this may be because the teachers already

anticipated beforehand that some concepts could be too difficult in the L2, and they had

already introduced them in the L1.

How and why the teachers and students use their mother tongue while dealing

with L2 texts may vary, depending on the difficulty of the text, the ability of the

students and the type of the tasks. But using the textbooks definitely has an effect on

the learning and teaching process, and Macaro (1995) rightly draws attention to a very

important question after observing a lesson that was using a L2 textbook:

… there was considerable doubt as to whether real communicative

exchanges were taking place and this may well have been a result of
extensive use of the pre-written dialogues in the course books, which
produce someone else‘s language practice, rather than use. (page 53)

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The last factor to be considered before investigating studies from primary classrooms is

how the students themselves are inevitably one variable influencing what goes on in the

classrooms.

The students

The teachers‘ discourse cannot be meaningfully discussed without acknowledging the

other participants in the classrooms, the students themselves. Many factors related to

the students could influence the outcomes, including the age of the learners, their

behaviour, their aptitude and motivation. Because of lack of space, only a short

summary is given here about the first two factors, behaviour and age. The other two

factors, although inevitably influencing classroom discourse, are not discussed here.

Different classrooms can pose very different challenges to teachers.

Disciplining remains an issue in many classrooms, and may be one of the main reasons

for the teachers‘ L1 use (Franklin 1990; Macaro 1995). Macaro‘s (1995) earlier study

investigated what the teachers thought about different issues, including their L1 use. 21

Italian English teachers were asked this in a questionnaire and in a semi-structured

interview. Some stated that misbehaviour may make them use the L1 more. Others

suggested that with classes that were likely to have behaviour problems, if the teacher

did not use the L1, but stayed in the L2, this itself often prevented misbehaviour. It

seems that if the teachers insist on the exclusive use of the L2, the students could be

disciplined even for using their mother tongue.

Another variable that is known to affect the teaching style and methods is the

age of the students. It seems that the age of the students may also influence how much

L1 the teachers use. Interestingly some believe that it is easier to use the L2 exclusively

with younger students (Macaro, 1997), while others think that with older ones it is

easier to use the L2 (Blanko-Iglesias, 1995; Broner and Tarone, 1995). Some research

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findings seem to indicate that the proficiency of the students and their age are not as

important as their learning styles and abilities in determining how much L1 teachers

may need to use. Eldridge (1996) in his small-scale study recorded one hundred

instances of L1 use by students in a Turkish secondary school, who were learning

English. The data analysis suggests that there is no apparent relationship between the

level of the students and the amount of L1 they used. Eldridge concludes that there is a

strong relationship between the learner‘s style and the L1 use. Some learners can be

forced to use the L2, even at an early stage of their development, while others cannot.

Research evidence relating to classes with older students is much more

substantial than the evidence relating to the primary level. It is important to remember

that language classes with older students, especially with adults, are different from

primary language classrooms and so it is not possible to draw straight forward

conclusions from them, when dealing with primary classroom data (Atkinson, 1993: 3).

The reasons for this are complex, the cognitive abilities of young learners differ from

adults, and their knowledge about the world is also very different from that of adult

learners; all these result in the need to teach them differently from the older students. It

is still possible to see the directions that researchers took and the results they came to

and to apply some of the findings to the present study.

The last part of this literature review shows research findings from primary

classrooms and from lower secondary classrooms, with students up to fourteen years.

The reason for including these research findings is because in Hungary, primary

education is most often up to the age of fourteen.

2.5.4 Teachers‟ L1 use in Primary FL Classrooms

The few research papers that have investigated the language choices made by teachers

in primary school settings give a varied picture. An early study carried out in French

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language classes in primary schools in Canada focused on the quantity of the L2 which

was used (Shapson, Kaufman and Durward, 1978). Only 26% of the teachers used the

L2 at least 75% of the time, and this was in spite of a recommendation from the

curriculum authorities that the L2 should be used at least 75% of the time.

The study did not look in detail at the functions associated with the use of the

L1 so it fails to provide an explanation of why the teachers used the L1. A study by Lai

in primary and secondary schools in Hong Kong showed that the four teachers in the

study used the mother tongue more than 30% of the time (Lai, 1996). A functional

analysis of the mother tongue utterances and interviews with the teachers suggests that

the main reasons for the use of the L1 were pressure from learners, discipline problems

and the need to save time.

There is some evidence that it is possible to sustain the use of the L2 with young

children. A study in a Swedish-immersion kindergarten in Finland with six-year-olds

found that the teachers used the L2 almost all of the time (Vesterbacka, 1991). This was

achieved largely through the frequent use of formulaic utterances in particular

situations. The children first understood the ‗meaningful‘ routines (for example ―Put

your clothes on!‖) from the context (they go to where their coats are) and then they

were able to use the expressions without fully understanding every linguistic element

(for example ―Onko ‗Vi-ska-ga-ut‘?‖ = ―Is it ‗Let‘s go outdoors‘?‖) and after some

time, they began to use some patterns with variations before finally using the language

spontaneously and creatively.

In a study in Hong Kong, Carless (2004) examined the interaction of one

teacher (a particularly gifted one, who was very keen on using the L2) with a class of

six year-old Year 1 learners. Extracts from the transcripts show that the teacher

succeeded in sustaining the use of the L2 almost all of the time. This was achieved

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through the use of short simple sentences, visual support, here-and-now contexts,

avoidance of difficult vocabulary items, a mixture of teacher input and activities which

were more motivating than traditional textbook teaching, pupil involvement through

choral and individual repetition, whole class and individual questioning and activities

with movement. In both of the studies mentioned above the learners seemed to be able

to connect the language to the situation, through real activities, movement and pictures.

There is no information on the use of the textbook in either of the above studies,

although Carless (2004) states that teaching in Hong Kong is mainly traditional and

textbook bound. The question is: would it be possible to achieve the results reported by

Carless if written texts were used? As soon as text written in the target language is

introduced into the classroom, it may become the object of learning and the teacher

may ask the students to read and translate the text, instead of letting them listen to it

and comprehend it first. Whatever method the teacher uses, she or he has to find some

way of making the text accessible to the learners.

Although not about language learning, Barton (1994) has a notion of routines

and ‗talk around texts‘ which is relevant to this study. He states ―Taking out and

putting away textbooks is one of the ‗rhythms of school life‘ and ‗much of … schooling

can be characterized as ‗talk around texts‘‖ (Barton, 1994: 181). In the classrooms the

teachers and students weave together spoken and written language with previous

understanding through so-called ‗instructional conversation‘ (Tharp and Gallimore,

1988: 111).

This is the point to introduce a study with children from a bilingual setting.

Martin (1999) looked into classrooms where the textbook also played a major role in

the classrooms. The language in these classes was based around monolingual texts, and

the study found much chorusing, repeating words or sentences from the new text.

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Martin suggests that the usual questions from the teachers did not require or allow

exploratory talk, but answers that could be ―read out‖ from the text itself (Martin, 1999:

50).

There is another important similarity between the Hungarian data and the data

from Martin‘s study. As mentioned before, in both classrooms the children were

allowed to use the L1 while answering the teacher‘s L2 questions. It is suggested that it

prevents errors (Martin, 1999: 55), or, as others labelled it, it is a self facilitating

resource (Nussbaum, 1991). It is evident that young students who have only just started

to learn a second language in the classroom cannot express their needs or opinions in

the L2.

Even older students find this difficult, and as Pennington (1999) suggests there

might be a potentially irresolvable paradox of trying to teach a second language

communicatively in classrooms. Her research was based on secondary aged students,

some being around the same age as the Hungarian older students in primary (twelve -

fourteen years) with a more natural, more participatory method, but without the

presence of the students‘ mother tongue. Pennington‘s (1995) research suggests that in

a traditional classroom, there are different frames, depending on the different forms of

discourse in which students and teacher enact. The four main frames are the lesson

frame, the lesson-support frame, the institutional support frame (talking about other

than the lesson, for example announcements from school head) and the commentary

frame (talking about other things, people, and events). The lesson frame is mainly the

core activity (Cameron, 2003), and here, at least in the communicative classrooms, is

where exclusive or almost exclusive L2 use is found, if there is L2 use at all.

The reason for the use of the L2 being confined to the lesson frame is because

the main activity was talking in the L2. In classrooms where there is less or no

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communicative language teaching, this may not be always the case, for example if

translating the text into the L1 is the core activity, then the translation itself would be in

the L1. The lesson support frame is seen where there are ―regulative moves aimed at

clarifying talk, repairing miscommunication, maintaining discipline, and generally

supporting on-task behaviour in the lesson frame‖ (Pennington, 1999: 61). The support

may come before the activity, or scaffolding it during, and also at the end of it

evaluating it. Different amount of L1 use was found during the lesson support frame

during different lessons.

2.5.5 Conclusion

The use of the mother tongue in FL classrooms is still being debated. Opinions vary

from totally banning it to using it sometimes, or even incorporating it into the L2 text

itself.

From the empirical studies which have been reviewed in this chapter it seems

that most teachers do use the L1, at least some of the time, but often quite extensively.

Many teachers express their belief that it is difficult to stay in the L2 all the time. The

main reasons for using the L1 are: classroom management purposes, explaining

grammar, background information, giving instructions, feedback, disciplining and to

save time. The teachers‘ beliefs and confidence in using the L2 are also relevant

factors. The activity type influences the L1 use, when L2 texts are used translation in

the L1 is often given. The age of the students also seems to influence how much L1 the

teachers use, although some teachers use more with older ones, while others with

younger ones. Official guidelines and policies also influence the way the teachers teach.

2.6 Good practice

In this chapter some aspects of child development and foreign language learning in

childhood have been discussed. From the research evidence it seems that although
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children rely on naturalistic processes when learning additional languages, instruction

and social processes also contribute to their language learning. These findings provide

support for Wong-Fillmore‘s (1991) model of child second (and foreign) language

learning in which the social, linguistic and cognitive processes interact with each other

(Nikolov, 2005). A recent publication of the European Commission (Edelenbos,

Johnstone and Kubanek, 2006) provides a useful summary of what is currently regarded

as good practice in the teaching of foreign languages to young learners. These include

factors of provision, pedagogical principles and objectives for teachers.

To be able to teach young children effectively, language teachers need to be

aware of and responsive to the children‘s cognitive, affective, communicative and

linguistic developments and their ZPD, and need to plan the teaching materials and

adjust the teaching techniques accordingly (Bors, 2002). Furthermore, they need to be

aware of the theory behind communicative language teaching and have techniques and

methods that support the aims of it.

Good practice in the young learners‘ classroom involves varied, short,

motivating activities, which the children understand and enjoy. The activities need to be

designed to interest and challenge the children. Children enjoy activities in which they

can actively participate and where they can work together. It is also important that the

teacher ensures a good atmosphere and good working relationships in the classroom,

keeps a positive approach and gives constant feedback (Nikolov, 2008). It is also

desirable to involve the children in their learning, to discuss with them what they like

doing, to allow them to make choices and to encourage active learning.

As the communicative methods of language teaching use the analytic (top-

down) approach, it is also essential for the children in the foreign language classrooms

to be exposed to the foreign language frequently, to be able to hear and see the patterns

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of the language in the wider context (see page 36). This is why the teacher‘s extended

L2 use is so important. Hearing the new language in contexts, with appropriate

demonstration, with a visual and multisensory approach helps with comprehension and

allows practice. Frequent use of the L2 in contexts where it can be seen to be

meaningful, useful and usable is one of the key elements of successful language

teaching and learning. It is also essential to build a positive attitude towards language

learning and take into consideration the individual child‘s personality, motivation and

learning styles (Edelenbos, Johnstone and Kubanek, 2006).

2.7 Summary
In this chapter I have looked at how children learn and in particular how they learn an

additional language. I have discussed the difference between learning the mother

tongue and any additional languages and hypothesised that children learn their mother

tongue differently from how they learn foreign languages in classrooms. I have argued

that there are many interrelating factors that may influence the success of any early

foreign language programmes. The starting age of the students is only one of them,

others include external and internal, teacher, learner, context and language related

factors. I have also pointed out that in formal classroom settings where there is only

minimal exposure to the L2, teaching young learners communicatively is often difficult

for bilingual teachers. I showed that teachers in different contexts use the L1 with

varying levels of frequency and also reviewed some research about the reasons why

they use the L1, both in primary classrooms and classrooms with older students.

In Hungarian primary schools the teaching of modern foreign languages,

especially English, is going through a period of transition, from the grammar translation

method to the more communicative language teaching method. There is strong pressure

from the curriculum authorities, parents and society at large, to teach English, and to

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teach it communicatively. The question is: Is this happening? And the related question

is: To what extent and how is it possible to teach English for communication to young

learners in the Hungarian context?

From the theoretical evidence we know that children learn differently from adults.

We also know that communicative language teaching requires a different method of

teaching from the grammar translation method. One important feature of the

communicative method is that the teacher uses the L2 exclusively or as much as

possible. For this reason, the extent of the L1 use in a classroom is a significant

indicator of the extent to which communicative teaching is actually going on. But we

still do not know everything about what is going on in primary language classrooms,

from all over the world. There is also very little empirical evidence about how teachers

teach in Hungarian primary language classes. The present study is trying to reduce the

gaps in our knowledge, and provide empirical evidence to answer the question: What is

happening in Hungarian primary foreign language classes? How much of the ‗Good

Practice‘ is present in the researched classrooms? My research questions are:

1. How much L1 do the teachers use at primary Grade 4 elementary and

intermediate English classes?

2. Why do the teachers use the L1?

3. What are the teachers‘ beliefs and attitudes regarding the teaching of English to
young learners?

4. To what extent and how is it possible to teach English for communication to

young learners in the Hungarian context?

The next chapter describes the methodology and methods used in my research.

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 Chapter Three
3. Chapter Three: Methodology
Methodology

3.1 Introduction

The initial questions when the investigation started were:

1. How do the teachers in Hungarian primary schools teach English as a foreign

language?

2. How do the teachers follow the advice in the new curriculum and teach in a

communicative way, instead of the previous grammar translation method?

3. Do the teachers use the mother tongue (L1), and if they do, how much and why?

In this chapter I first describe the theory which underpins the methodology of the small-

scale, observational study that is the base of the thesis. Then I describe the pilot study

and state what lessons were learned from the pilot study. The third part shows how the

main data was collected, followed by a detailed explanation of the data analysis,

including the development of the coding scheme for the analysis of the use of the L1 by

the teachers. Finally the questions of validity, reliability and the ethical considerations

and limitations are discussed at the end.

3.2 The study

3.2.1 The planning

The central question which this dissertation addresses is an empirical question about

what happens in classrooms. For this reason classroom observation was the main

method of data collection.

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 To be able to start to answer the research questions I had to go to the real

classrooms, and find out what was happening there. I wanted to capture the picture of

the particular social practice, at the beginning of the 21st century, during the significant

changes, to focus on the classrooms, and on the provision and process, but not on

pupils‘ learning outcomes. Maybe the scene will change in a few years, but

understanding this time, the time between worlds, will demonstrate something of how

the transition from the old to the new has been happening.

The aim of the study was not confirmatory but rather exploratory. The

theoretical ideas were expected to emerge from the data collection and analysis. This

pointed to the need to apply qualitative research methods (Bryman, 2008).

Qualitative research today (compared to 10 years ago) involves closer

attention to the interpretative nature of inquiry, and situating the study
within the political, social and cultural context of the researcher/s, the
participants, and the readers of the story. (Cresswell, 2007: 37)

The present research timetable and resources of 3 years, and the researcher working

alone meant that a large-scale study was not feasible. I decided to use personal

connections and to visit only a few schools, but for an extended period of time. I also

assumed the teachers probably would be relaxed and more willing to be observed with

a known person, a fellow teacher. Being based in Britain meant that the observations

and sessions had to be fitted into a limited numbers of visits to Hungary.

The main part of the study was planned to be a qualitative study, with the

researcher as a key instrument, and the data coming from multiple sources (for example

observations, interviews, documents and recorded materials). The data analysis was

inductive. This involved my finding patterns, categories, and themes, and organising

these into increasingly more abstract units, while at the same time keeping in mind the

views held by the participants about the issues. The focus of the data analysis emerged

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from the data itself. During the analysis of the data I was trying to develop a holistic

understanding of a very complex picture (Cresswell, 2007).

I decided to concentrate on the language choices made by the teachers and the

functions associated with these choices. I wanted to see how they were teaching and if

they were teaching communicatively at all. The COLT system (Spada and Fröhlich,

1995) would have given indications of this, but I decided not to use it. The reason for

not using pre-determined categories was because it would have imposed a particular

framework on the analysis of the data; in this research it seemed desirable to allow the

categories to emerge from the data (Mehan, 1979).

I first wanted to video record the lessons, but during the pilot study it became

clear that some teachers were very reluctant to let me video record their lessons. So I

used audio recordings with the notes taken during the lessons as the base of the

analysis. (See transcription of lessons in Appendix 7 and an example of the notes on

page 93). I also audio recorded, transcribed and translated the interviews with the

teachers (see Appendix 8.)

Some of the research questions required quantitative analysis. To be able to

answer the question ―How much L1 is used in the different classes?‖ some kind of

counting and comparing was expected and needed. The second question ―Why was the

L1 used?‖ needed both counting of the different functions, and looking into the

classroom data in detail. The data from the interviews, and observations and the notes

added extra information, and the interview data also showed the concerns of the

teachers and the ways they were thinking about language teaching. The interview data

needed a qualitative data analysis.

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 The mixed approach, using both quantitative and qualitative analyses, was

especially helpful because the quantitative results gave a very different picture in the

pilot study from the main study results, seemingly contradicting each other.

3.2.2 Description of the study

I visited 4 schools, on 3 separate occasions, in January, May and October 2005 (see

page 71). During each of these contacts the schools were visited more than once, and I

often stayed there between lessons, during lunch breaks or at the end of the school time.

I also kept contact with the teachers between the visits, by phone calls, emails and text

messages.

The many visits allowed me to familiarise myself with the settings and it also

helped the teachers and the pupils to know me. Being in a school for extended periods

gave invaluable insight into the whole culture. It was a privilege not only to be able to

visit and record lessons, but to be able to visit the teachers‘ staff rooms during the break

times, talk to other teachers, and to the heads. Also, the pupils were very interested and

friendly, recognising me after a few times, asking questions about Britain and Scotland,

sharing their thoughts and feelings about many different aspects of school life and life

outside the school.

The study was mainly an observational study. To be able to explain the

teachers‘ attitudes, beliefs, expectations and practices, a holistic approach to the

research was taken (Erickson, 1996). Alongside the data from the classroom discourse,

other aspects of the situation were also thought to be relevant. I took notes during the

lessons, also after talking to the language teachers and other teachers, heads and pupils,

in the corridors or in the teacher rooms, at break times. I looked at syllabuses, course

books, exercise books, notebooks, word books, tests, marks, marking systems, saw the

equipment for language teaching, looked into preparation notes, and school year books.

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 The information gathered from all these sources helped me to see the wider

picture of the school life, not just the English language classrooms, where the teaching

of English played only one part, although admittedly a big part. Micro-ethnography,

according to Erickson and Mohatt (1982: 133), investigates ―particular cultural scenes

within key institutional settings‖ and the analysis focuses on ―the processes of face-to-

face interaction in the events‖. This approach combines ―participant observation with

detailed analysis of audiovisual records of naturally occurring interaction in key scenes

in people‘s lives‖. At the end of the observation period semi-structured interviews were

also conducted with the participating teachers.

Recently it has been suggested that the qualitative researcher could also be

interested in the testing of the theories that emerged from the initial data collection

sessions. This can be seen as the ―tighter specification of the research questions‖. This

could lead to the changing of ways to collect and/or analyse more data (Silverman,

2006).

3.2.3 Timetable

Below is the time-table that was followed during the study. The data collection required
me to travel to Hungary four times during the course of two years, to make contacts and
to collect the data. The visits lasted between a week and three weeks.
Table 3.1: Timetable of data collection
April - May 2004 Pilot study, 4 schools, 4 teachers, 3 lesson each
June-December 2004 Transcribing and analysing data from pilot, preparing
the main study
December 2004 Letters to all primary schools in Csepel district
January-February 2005 First visit of the 4 schools, 7 teachers, 1 lesson each,
talking to the teachers (6 lesson from Teacher Kati)
May-June 2005 Data collection for main study, 22 lessons audio
recorded, notes during the lessons taken
October 2005 ―Free‖ interview with teachers after seeing one lesson,

3.3 Pilot study

A pilot study was carried out in April-May 2004 to find out more about the possibility

of conducting the main study.

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3.3.1 Data collection

The teachers for the pilot study were selected from personal contacts. All four schools

that participated were in the south of Budapest. (The names of the schools and the

teachers in both the pilot and the main study are pseudonyms.) One of the schools

(Kékes) was where I used to teach extra English lessons to pupils in the afternoons

years ago. The three other schools were chosen because some of my previous pupils

were attending them (Ezüst, Sárga and Indigó). I did not know any of the English

language teachers in these four schools, as the ones I had been working with had left

the schools previously.

Procedures

First I phoned and talked to 4 teachers (teachers Alíz, Bea, Csilla and Dóri), explaining

the reasons for wanting to see their lessons. They were all willing to participate in my

research. They were happy for me to go into their classes, but 3 of them were not

willing to let me video record the lessons. They were worried about the camera, about

the effect it would have on the pupils and the lessons. They all agreed to the use of a

small portable cassette recorder (SONY TCM-20DV) to record the teacher talk.

In May 2004, I observed 3 English lessons in each school, making a total of 12

recordings. I found out that in Ezüst and Sárga schools (where teachers Alíz and Bea

were working) the pupils start to learn English as a foreign language in Grade 4 (age 9),

while Kékes and Indigó schools (where teachers Csilla and Dóri were working) had an

early language learning programme, and started to teach English in Grade 1 (age 6).

The focus of the study was on the L1 use of the teachers, but I did not know at that

point if I wanted to concentrate on a specific grade, or wanted to see a variety of age-

groups, so I let the teachers choose which classes they let me see. At the end I had

recordings from Grade 3 to Grade 6. I also found out during my visits that most of the

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teachers were happy to let me see younger classes, but some of them, especially teacher

Alíz would not let me see the Grade 7 or Grade 8 pupils. She was concerned that they

would not behave and that they would speak hardly any English.

The following table shows the four teachers and the different classes that I

visited and recorded:

Table 3.2: Pilot study recordings, April-May 2004

Teacher
School Class
& Lesson
Alíz 1 Grade 6
Ezüst Alíz 2 Grade 4
English is Alíz 3 Grade 4
taught from
Grade 4 Bea 1 Grade 5
Sárga Bea 2 Grade 6
Bea 3 Grade 4
Csilla 1 Grade 4
Kékes Csilla 2 Grade 6
English is
Csilla 3 Grade 6
taught from
Dóri 1 Grade 6
Grade 1
Indigó Dóri 2 Grade 3
Dóri 3 Grade 4

There happened to be recordings from Grade 4 classes in each school. I then decided to

concentrate in the analysis on lessons from Grade 4 only, and make this a central part of

the main study also. The reasons for this were mainly because this is the official

starting age, so every school who agreed to participate in the main study would have

Grade 4 English classes, but maybe not earlier grades. The other reason to choose this

grade was to avoid the possible problems with teachers being reluctant to let me see

classrooms with older pupils. By concentrating on only one grade, but possibly on two

levels, pupils who were just starting, the elementary ones, and pupils who have been

learning from earlier on, the intermediate ones, it would also be possible to see if the

level of the pupils could be one of the variables influencing the language choices made

by the teachers.

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3.3.2 Data analysis

Four lessons from Grade 4 (Alíz 2, Bea 3, Csilla 1 and Dóri 3) were transcribed and

analysed. Then, all the L2 and the L1 words of the 4 teachers were counted by hand,

from the transcripts. The following table shows the word count in the form of raw totals

and also expressed as percentages of the total number of words spoken by the teacher:

Table 3.3: Number and percentage of L1 and L2 words in four 45-minute lessons
Elementary Intermediate
Teacher Alíz Teacher Bea Teacher Csilla Teacher Dóri
L2 L1 L2 L1 L2 L1 L2 L1
Words 2,364 245 1,980 759 1,532 1,386 1,533 1,059
per cent 90.61 9.39 72.29 27.71 52.50 47.50 59.15 40.85

As we can see from the table, Teacher Alíz used the L1 9 % of the time, and Teacher

Bea used the L1 28 % of the time; in comparison, Teacher Csilla used the L1 47 % of

the time and Teacher Dóri used it 41 % of the time. It‘s clear then, that the two

teachers who were teaching elementary pupils (Alíz and Bea) used less L1 during their

lessons than the two who were teaching intermediate pupils (Csilla and Dóri).

A further analysis was carried out, to see what kinds of activities were used

during the different lessons, as it was hypothesised that the activity type could be

another variable that could also influence the results. The two lesson scripts were

analysed, looking into the discourse of the lessons. The Transactions in the discourse

were identified and analysed. A Transaction is marked by boundaries and comprises

one or more Sequences or individual Exchanges (Sinclair and Brazil, 1982: 53). The

Transactions usually corresponded with the activities in the classrooms. The transition

from one activity to another was usually marked by a Marker like ‗well‘, or ‗now‘,

signalling a new episode in the lesson. Sometimes there was no discourse Marker

between the Transactions, but the change in the topic, or an obvious change in the

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activity, for example from working in the textbooks to playing a game, signalled the

change. The activities had a beginning and end, a meaning and purpose for the learners,

language learning goals, and involved the learners actively (Cameron, 2001: 31) (see a

more detailed analysis of classroom discourse on page 106).

Activities

Modern foreign language lessons in Hungarian primary lessons usually follow a similar

pattern. This was apparent from the lessons that were observed and I also knew it from

my previous teacher training experience. The following table shows the usual structure

of the Hungarian foreign language classes:

Table 3.4: The structure of a typical foreign language lesson in Hungary

1. Greeting The students stand up and greet the teacher.

A student, chosen beforehand for this purpose, gives a report on the

2. Reporting date and attendance. The report may include information about the
time and the weather.

A student reports on who has/has not done the homework.

3. Homework check
Alternatively, the teacher may ask about this.

A transition from the routine activities at the start of the lesson to the
main content of the lesson. This stage is used for revision, to relax
4. Warm-up
the students (by playing a game or singing a song, for example) and
to establish the mind-set of ‗speaking English‘.

The activities in this stage of the lesson are the most varied and
5. New lesson content unpredictable. A wide range of different types of activity is used,
usually involving the introduction and/or practice of new material.

6. New homework The homework for the next lesson is set.

The teacher gives praise (or blame, if appropriate) to the students for
7. Evaluation
their performance and/or behaviour during the lesson.

8. Closure Students stand up and take leave of the teacher.

This pattern could change of course, but the main elements are often observable. Every

lesson in primary classes usually starts with the pupils standing up when the teacher

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enters the classroom. Most teachers also request somebody reporting on the class, on

the missing pupils, sometimes on the time and the weather too. There is usually

homework for most lessons; this is often checked at the beginning. It is considered

good practice to ―warm up‖ the pupils, who are coming from another lesson where they

usually use only the L1. This ―warming up‖, helping the students with the transition to

the use of the L2, can be achieved by singing songs, playing games, answering

questions in the L2. Some teachers use songs and games between the main activities or

towards the end of the lesson too, to move the pupils around if they were sitting for too

long. The main part of the lesson is usually either learning new material or practising

what has been previously learned, or a mixture of these two. During these activities it is

most likely that pupils will use their course book, or other material to provide or help

with the (new) L2 input. The teachers often go over the homework set at a previous

lesson at one point of the lesson, usually at the beginning. They also give new written

and/or oral homework for the next lesson towards the end of the lesson. There is also

some sort of evaluation of the lesson and/or the behaviour of the class at the end.

Finally the closure is when the bell rings, the class stands up and after saying farewell

they are allowed to leave the classroom.

Activities compared

For the second quantitative analysis two lessons were selected, Teacher Alíz‘s lesson,

who used the least of the L1 (9.39%), and Teacher Csilla‘s, who used most L1

(47.50%). The lessons were segmented according to the different activities, and the

teachers‘ L1 and L2 words were counted in each activity. Table 3.5 shows the total

number of the two teachers‘ words in both languages, and the total number of L1 and

L2 words used in each activity.

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 Table 3.5: Total number of words in L2 and L1 in two lessons,
according to type of activity
Teacher Alíz Teacher Csilla
(elementary) (intermediate)
number of words number of words
% %
( L2 and L1) ( L2 and L1)
Use of textbook 454 17.40 2,015 69.05
Work in notebooks 978 37.49 - -
Homework check 342 13.11 - -
Warm up 328 12.57 91 3.12
Game 229 8.78 187 6.41
New homework 114 4.37 360 12.34
Pictures 103 3.95 - -
Collecting
24 0.92 - -
notebooks
Farewells 24 0.92 9 0.31
Greetings 13 0.50 23 0.79
Pronunciation - - 129 4.42
Evaluation - - 73 2.50
Real
- - 31 1.06
communication
Total 2,609 100.0 2,918 100.0

The results show that Teacher Alíz spoke most words during the activity labelled:

―Work in notebooks‖ (37% of her total words during the whole lesson) while Teacher

Csilla spoke most words during the time while they were ―Use of textbook‖ (69% of

her total words).

Table 3.6 shows the differences between the amount of L2 and L1 use during

each activity. At the top of the table there are the activities with the most words from

the teachers.

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 Table 3.6: Total number of words in the L1 and the L2, used by the teacher
in each activity, expressed as raw totals and as percentages of the raw totals
Teacher Alíz (elementary) Teacher Csilla (intermediate)
L2 L1 Total L2 L1 Total

Use of frequency 439 15 454 1,189 826 2,015

textbook % 96.7 3.3 59.0 41.0

Work in frequency 840 138 978

notebooks % 85.9 14.1

Homework frequency 341 1 342

check % 99.7 0.3
frequency 324 4 328 83 8 91
Warm-up
% 98.8 1.2 91.2 8.8
frequency 166 63 229 31 156 187
Game
% 72.5 27.5 16.6 83.4

New frequency 113 1 114 151 209 360

homework % 99.1 0.9 41.9 58.1
frequency 80 23 103
Pictures
% 77.7 22.3

Collecting frequency 24 24
notebooks % 100.0
frequency 24 24 6 3 9
Farewells
% 100.0 66.7 33.3
frequency 13 13 23 23
Greetings
% 100.0 100.0
frequency 49 80 129
Pronunciation
% 38.0 60.0
frequency 73 73
Evaluation
% 100.0
frequency 31 31
Real discourse
% 100.0
frequency 2,364 245 2,609 1,532 1,386 2,918
Total
% 90.6 9.4 52.5 47.5

In the following discussion I provide an explanation of some of the results from the

table above. I will argue that there were two main types of activities during these

lessons: activities that were all or mainly routines, and where the use of the L2 was

usually predictable; and activities that were built around the learning of new words

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(forms, pronunciation or even new activities). It is assumed that the less predictable an

activity in a foreign language is, or the more unknown L2 words used during it, the

more help the pupils may need with the activity. They may need h7elp to understand

what to do, how to do it, as well as the meaning of the new L2 words. This could

influence the use of the L1 by the teacher (Driscoll, 2000).

Routines, ritualized language

All four lessons had some similar routines, like greetings, warming up exercises,

checking homework and saying goodbyes. During these activities mostly English was

used by the teachers and students. The next four examples show typical exchanges

during the routine activities. Example 3.1 shows the beginning of the lesson. After the

greetings, the lesson starts with a song.

Example 3.1: Lesson Teacher Dóri (Pilot)

1 T : good morning children
2 Ss : good morning teacher
3 T yes sit down please I‘d like you to try a little bit with a little song do you remember the
song about London Bridge? Yes
4 Ss : Yes
5 T : one two three
6 Ss : London Bridge is falling down falling down falling down
London Bridge is falling down my fair lady

In Example 3.2, after the greetings, one student reports on the date, and on who is
absent.
Example 3.2: Lesson Teacher Csilla (Pilot)
1 T : (Good morning students good morning teacher) so what‘s the date today?
2 S : today is Monday for twenty-eight
3 T the twenty-eight
4 S : the twenty-eighth of April 2004 no
5 T : nobody^
6 S : nobody is
7 T : is^
8 S : Is
9 T : is absent
10 S : is absent
11 T : okay thank you sit down

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Example 3.3 shows a homework check. Teacher Alíz used an extended period for

warming up, so the homework check came at a later point of the lesson.

Example 3.3: Lesson Teacher Alíz (Pilot)

172 T : …my next question to you all what was the homework for today? The homework
173 S : the homework
174 T what was the homework yes
175 S : mm workbook
176 T : what page is it on or what page was it on?
177 S : mmm
178 T : page^
179 S : forty-six…

186 T : so some bubbles so you can see mm letters letters are mixed into bubble what is the first
word first first yes it‘s
187 S : it‘s bathroom
188 T : yes really? really?
189 S : yes yes
190 T : second seconds bubble?

In Example 3.4 Teacher Bea used a clock to practise the time with her students.

Example 3.4: Lesson Teacher Bea (Pilot)

77 T : okay you can close your exercise book okay listen to me please what‘s that Peti? ((she
is showing a big toy clock))
78 S : time
79 T not time, it‘s a ((tapping the clock)) it‘s a clock yes it‘s a clock mmm this is a clock okay
mmm ((the teacher is moving the hands of the clock and showing new time)) Peti what‘s
the time? What‘s the time, please? What‘s the time?
80 S : it‘s
81 T : it‘s
82 S : it it‘s twelve o‘clock

The examples above demonstrate that all the pupils were probably well used to these

activities, they knew all or most of the words they needed to use in their responses, so

the teachers did not need to explain a lot or translate the words. It seems that when

using routines and rituals in both the elementary and the intermediate classes, the

teachers can stay in the L2 all or most of the time.

The following examples will show the main activity or activities during the

lessons taught by Teacher Alíz and teacher Csilla, pointing out the differences in them,

which could explain the difference in their language choice and use.

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“New” language

The scripts and the notes taken during Teacher Alíz and teacher Csilla‘s lessons tell that

the main activities, taking up most of the time in these two lessons, coincide with the

activity where the teachers spoke most. In lesson A this activity is marked ―Working in

notebooks‖ and ―Use of textbook‖, while in teacher Csilla‘s lesson the activity was

marked as ―Use of textbook‖. The reason for this coincidence is because both lessons

were very teacher fronted, and both teachers constantly instructed, informed,

questioned the pupils during all activities, so the longer each activity lasted, the more

they needed to talk. Example 3.5 shows Teacher Alíz with her elementary pupils during

the main activities:

Example 3.5: Lesson Teacher Alíz (Pilot)

276 T : Yes, thank you very much. I would like you to open your books at page, on page,
mmm, hundred and thirty-four, hundred and thirty-four. What you can find in the
house? Where is the shower? Where is the shower? Yes?
277 S : In the bathroom
278 T : It is^ ((writing on board))
279 S : It is in the bathroom
280 T : It is in the bathroom ((writing on board)) Thank you very much. Where is the fridge?
Yes^
281 S : It is in the kitchen.
282 T ((writing on board))…

603 T : ((the teacher is dictating sentences)) … and the next ―Laci has got a rabbit‖. Rabbit,
okay, so now look at me, look at me, look at me please. No, no, look at me. So I‘ve
got a picture, so that means Gergő has got a bone, a bone. Is it true?
604 S : Yes
605 T : Yes it‘s true. But listen if I say Gergő has got a ball is it true?
606 Ss : No
607 T : No it‘s^
608 Ss : False
609 T : It‘s false. What is the true? Gergő hasn‘t got a ball he has got a^
610 Ss : Bone.
611 T : Bone. The sentence is Gergő^
612 Ss : ((some of the learners are starting to write))…

615 T : No. Gergő hasn‘t got a ball, he has got a bone. Yes so it is the correction. Yes I would
like you to look at the sentences in your notebooks and read the sentences again and try
to decide true or false.

Teacher Alíz‘s class used a course book published in Hungary (Sződy, 2000), with very

little L2 text, but full of pictures. She used very little L1 while they talked about the

rooms in the house and while they were writing L2 sentences about pictures into their

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notebooks. The teacher provided the language in the L2, and she did not need to use a

lot of L1; instead of translating or explaining the words, sentences, she could refer to

the pictures for the meanings. She used lots of gestures and body language, and she also

made considerable use of the board to draw pictures, and to write new words and

expressions.

Teacher Alíz told me after the lesson that it would not be possible to use this

same course book the following year, as it was out of print. She was concerned that she

would need to use another book, probably with more English text with her beginner

class, and she told me that she thought this would negatively influence her lessons and

the teaching.

As a next step, I will analyse some observations from the other class, the

intermediate ones. The main activity during teacher Csilla‘s lesson was built around a

dialogue in English, written in the form of a picture story with speech bubbles, from the

textbook (Holderness, 1991). The next example shows extracts of how the intermediate

pupils with teacher Csilla worked on the text.

Example 3.6: Lesson Teacher Csilla (Pilot)

Original script Translated script
23 T : ((after reading the new text)) …okay then ((after reading the new text)) …okay then
jó akkor nézzük hogy az első részben <good let‟s see if in the first part what
milyen in the first speech bubble what kind of> in the first speech bubble what
new words have you found? Okay? new words have you found? Okay?
Anna? Anna?
24 S : nincs új szó <no new words>
25 T : no new words? What is ‗remember‘? no new words? What is ‗remember‘?
Zsolt? Zsolt?
26 S : emlékezni <remember>
27 T : emlékezni, yes, very good. <remember>, yes, very good.

169 T : …okay. (0.2) Akkor mindenki ért …okay. (0.2) <so everybody understands
mindent mindenki tud mindent a everything knows everything about the
szöveggel kapcsolatban Okay, good. text> Okay, good. Now have a look at
Now have a look at the bottom of the page the bottom of the page and there is
and there is another task, a listening task. another task, a listening task. Listen who
Listen who is it? (0.3) A Zoko féle is it? (0.3) <The Zoko type sentences
mondatokat olvassa nekünk Kata és a Kata read for us and the Lucy type
Lucy féle mondatot olvassa nekünk Mari sentences Mari read for us>
170 S : He is eleven. He has got a dog. He is eleven. He has got a dog.
171 S : It‘s Ken. It‘s Ken.

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172 T : okay. Tehát fog állításokat mondani az okay. <So the tape will say statements
itt szereplő emberekről esetleg állatokról about the people or maybe animals from
és neked majd akit szólítok mondani kell the story and you, who I will nominate,
hogy kiről van szó will have to tell us who this is> Okay, do
Okay, do you understand? you understand?
173 S : igen <yes>
174 T : yes, you are so clever. Listen. ((the teacher yes, you are so clever. Listen. ((the
is playing the tape with the sentences)) teacher is playing the tape with the
sentences))

These examples show how the pupils were working with the new text, reading it,

translating the sentences, doing the exercises from the books. These activities needed a

lot of support from the teacher, who used the L2 a lot (1189 words), mostly to read the

sentences and provide the correct pronunciation. She also used the L1 a lot too, to give

instructions, feedback, to elicit the meaning of the words or to translate some of the

words. (There were 826 L1 words in this activity.)

3.3.3 Results of the Pilot study

From the 12 visited lessons, and from talking to the four teachers in the pilot study it

appeared that the teachers used a mixture of different methods, including grammar

translation, memorisation, repetition, and some communicative type activities while

they were teaching English. The main reason for the difference in the amount of the L1

use seemed to be the different activities that the class was doing. It also seemed that

some teachers (especially Teacher Alíz) wanted to use the L2 more, and she chose a

textbook without much L2 text to try to achieve her aim. Others may have wanted to

use the L2 also (without conducting in-depth interviews I would not know this), but by

choosing textbooks with a considerable amount of L2 texts, whenever they were

working in the course book with new words or with the activities, their pupils seemed

to need lots of support to be able to participate. One of the supports from the teacher is

the use of the L1.

The results from the pilot study show that there is a difference in the amount of

the L1 use between the elementary teachers and the intermediate teachers. One possible

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explanation may be the type of activity during the lessons; the other was the preference

and/or the expertise of the teacher. The pilot study did not attempt to answer the two

other research question in detail (―Why do the teachers use the L1?‖ and ―What are

their beliefs, attitudes about the L1 use?‖). These questions would be addressed in the

main study.

After the pilot study the main study design changed slightly, focusing on Grade 4

classes only. The final research questions for the main study were the following:

1) How much L1 do the teachers use at primary Grade 4 elementary and

intermediate English classes?

2) Why do the teachers use the L1?

3) What are the teachers‘ beliefs, attitudes towards teaching English to young
learners?

4) To what extent and how is it possible to teach English for communication to

young learners in the Hungarian context?

To be able to carry out the main study, the next step was to find schools willing to

participate and let me visit their Grade 4 classes.

3.4 Main study

The main data was collected between January and October, 2005.

3.4.1 The context (sampling)

In December 2004 letters in Hungarian were sent out to 18 school heads, describing the

research project and asking for permission to visit the schools in January/February 2005

(see Appendix 3a, translation Appendix 3b). There was also a request for some basic

information about how modern foreign languages, especially English were taught in the

school (see Appendix 4). The letter also explained the reason for the study as:

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 I am interested in how teachers teach English, what books they use, what
activities they like, what the students think about learning another language
and what they like doing. (Appendix 4)

Self addressed envelopes were included, for the answers. Four schools replied and sent

back the permission and also answers from their seven English language teachers. The

following part contains information about the four schools, including the teachers‘

answers to the questions about MFL teaching in their schools.

The schools

The four schools, although in the same district, represent very different types of

primary schools, according to what kind of area they are in, how well they are equipped

and also, how they are perceived by the parents, and the teachers who were working

there.

During the Communist regime (until 1989), all primary schools had catchment

areas, and only schools specialising in subjects (for example music, sport, languages)

were allowed to take pupils from outside their catchment area, after accepting all their

local children. After the political changes in 1989, the educational system changed too.

Parents are now freer to take their children wherever they like, and as there are fewer

pupils to educate, some schools struggle to get enough, while others have waiting lists.

The best way of attracting pupils is good English language teaching and computer

skills. Two schools in the district had to close recently for lack of pupils. Schools that

used to be prestigious during the communist regime, (teaching extra music using the

Kodály method, or extra German language, alongside with the compulsory Russian

language) have been losing their popularity. Another factor determining the success of

a school is the area where it is situated. Older schools built between 1910 and 1950,

those surrounded by expensive bungalows, far from the factories are popular, while

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those near factories, the newer schools, those amongst big blocks of flats built around

1960-1970, struggle most to fill up their places.

The four schools which volunteered to take part in the study were: Gólya,

Lovas, Kakas and Íglice primary schools. In the table below there is information about

the 4 schools.
Table 3.7: The four schools participating in the main study
School Gólya Lovas Kakas Íglice
Built Old building Newer building Newer building Old building
Location Amongst
Amongst ten
bungalows and Amongst Amongst
storey houses,
4 storey bungalows bungalows
near the factory
houses
Specialist Used to be
Used to be English
German none
music (Kodály) language
language
No of students About 400 About 400 About 400 About 500
No of classes 20 16 16 16
Av. student number per
20 23 25 30
class
Av. student number per 20
about 15 about 15
English classes in Grade 4 20 (as many as
(half English (both half learn
(whole class) want to learn,
half German) English)
the rest German)
No of other MFL teachers 3 2 2 4
No of English teachers 2 2 3-5 4
English teachers teach
yes yes yes no
other subjects
MFL teaching starts (P3) P4 (P2) P4 P1 P1
No of English lessons in
3 3 3 3-5
Grade 4 per week
Text book in Grade 4 Chatterbox 1 Chatterbox 1 Chatterbox 3 Chatterbox 3
Exam(s) Local at half Pitman,
no no
term in G8 CFC in G8
English teachers Hajni Franciska Marika Ica
participating in the study Gizi Piroska Kati
No of lessons/day for MFL
6-7 6-7 5-6 4-5
teacher/s
Special classroom for
no 1 2 3
MFL

Two of the schools were in old buildings (Gólya and Íglice), whereas the others were

in much newer buildings. The two older schools were well kept, with children‘s work

on the walls, with bright corridors, big classrooms. One of the newer schools (Kakas)

also had a good atmosphere inside, bright, clean, well decorated corridors, friendly

classrooms, (but smaller ones than in the old schools). All of these three schools had

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new furniture in their classrooms, making it possible for the teachers to re-organise

where the pupils sit, making group-work possible. The other school in a newer building

(school Lovas) was the odd one out. It was not well kept. The corridors were cluttered,

with lockers for the pupils with broken doors, walls that needed to be re-painted,

classrooms with ancient desks, still secured together, in rows.

In Gólya school there were about 20 pupils in the Grade 4 classes, all learning

English. The other three schools divided the classes into two groups. At Lovas school

they let their pupils decide if they wanted to learn English or German (most pupils

usually chose English, so in the German classes there were usually only a few students

per grade). Kakas and Íglice schools, on the other hand, grouped their pupils into two

equal numbered groups, resulting in enormous competition from the parents to get their

children into the ―better‖ group, either into the English group and not the German group

(Kakas school) or into the English group that had 5 lessons per week, not the one that

had only 3 lessons (Íglice school). These schools struggled with providing more space

for the MFL classes, making little store rooms and other places that were not

classrooms before into language rooms.

Íglice was the only school where the MFL teachers only taught the MFL, in the

three other schools the language teachers also taught other subjects too (as they were all

trained primary teachers, except Teacher Kati). Íglice school was the most sought after

in the district, as it is an English specialist school. The school had to accept all the

pupils from the catchment area first, but these hardly made up one class, so the rest of

the pupils were selected by entrance tests. At the end of schooling there, the pupils take

language exams, with a high success rate. This allows them to get to the much-sought-

after bilingual secondary schools.

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 Kakas school, the other popular school, also had a very good reputation. It

likewise, was able to choose students since the ones in the catchment area did not fill up

the places. It offered different extra activities, a swimming pool and sport facilities.

Gólya school used to be a popular school teaching German language, taking pupils

from all over the district. Following the political changes and the demand to teach

English, both the Russian teachers and some others had been re-trained to teach

English, but many of them left the school after their training completed over the last

few years, usually to work for foreign companies, for more money. Lovas school used

to be a special music school, using the Kodály method; again, it used to take pupils

from outside the catchment area. Unfortunately, here also, English had been demanded,

and the school struggled to train and keep the English teachers. In the last few years the

school had been losing students constantly, this might result in its closure in a few

years.

In the four schools there were three English teachers who taught elementary

grade 4 pupils (teachers Hajni, Franciska and Gizi) and three who taught intermediate

grade 4 pupils (teachers Marika, Piroska and Ica). Teacher Kati was teaching both

levels, so I recorded six lessons (three elementary and three intermediate ones) from

her. All the teachers were female, so in the following analysis I use the word ‗she‘

when talking about them. The following table shows information about the seven

teachers:

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 Table 3.8: The seven teachers
Franciska Gizi Hajni Ica Kati Marika Piroska

Started to learn
foreign language 10 8 10 10 10 10 10
(age)
English
First foreign English French
Russian Russian French Russian Russian
language (USA) Greek
(in Cyprus)
English French
English Greek Roma German
Foreign Russian Russian Russian
German French English Russian
languages English English English
Russian Italian Italian English
Russian Russian
Training to teach
English
(1:University,
2:Teacher
Training for four
or three years, 2, 3 2 2, 3 2 1 2,3 2
3: Re-training,
two years part
time)
Year of diploma
1981 2006 1981 1984 1972 1988 1998
for teaching
Year of diploma
for English 1995 2006 2006 1984 1972 2000 1998
teaching
Used to be
yes no yes no no yes no
Russian teacher
Started working
in the present 1996 2002 1977 1997 1988 2000 2002
school
Last in-service
2005 none 2006 2005 2005 2005 2002
training

I visited the 7 teachers in January-February 2005, observed and recorded one lesson

from each of them, talked to the teachers and pupils and it was decided that the main

classroom data collection would be done in May-June 2005.

3.4.2 Lesson observation (audio recording)

All the lessons observed were audio-recorded and later transcribed.

Rationale for using audio recordings

Video recording was first considered, at the beginning of the study, as this could have

added extra information over and above the discourse of the classes, as non-verbal

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communication, gestures are all part of the discourse. The negative reaction from the

teachers in the pilot study made it necessary to change the equipment into a small Sony

type walkman, with an external microphone, clipped onto the teacher‘s collar. The

length of the tape was 45 minutes each side, ideal for the recording of the 45 minutes

lessons, without needing to change tapes during the recordings.

Audio recording of the lessons turned out to be a very good solution, as in some

of the classrooms it would have been practically impossible to do a video recording,

because of the size of the room. These rooms were converted from store rooms into

language classrooms, and there was hardly any space for the pupils to get to the board.

The following picture shows part of one of these classrooms. The whole room

was taken up with the desks. There were two lines of desks, eight of them all together,

with 16 possible seats. There was only enough space on one side for a person to pass. It

did not have enough space even to take a bigger photo.

Picture 3.1: A very small language classroom, converted from a store room

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Procedures

All 7 teachers had been shown the walkman before the first recording; they could try it

on and manipulate it. The machine was small enough to put into their pocket, and the

microphone was clipped onto their clothes, near the neck. During the pilot study some

recordings were difficult to hear, as the microphone had been touched by the teacher‘s

clothes or head; so extra care was taken to secure it on a place away from any possible

interference. When the bell rang and the lessons started, the teachers were asked to

switch the machine on. At the end of the lesson, again signalled by the bell, most

teachers switched the machine off at once. Some teachers were a bit anxious about the

recorder, especially during the first recording, and a few even asked if they could

switch it off while the pupils were working in their workbooks for example. I had to

reassure them that it was ok for the machine to be on during the whole lesson, even if

there were long pauses.

Limitations

Although a tape recorder felt less intrusive than video recording to some teachers, it is

likely that the tape recorder still influenced the way the teachers were teaching,

especially at the beginning. Although there was a previous recording practice in

February, and all the teachers were familiar with the process, still, two of the teachers

referred to the machine during the first recorded lesson in the main study. During the

second and third recordings the teachers seemed to be getting used to the machine. For

this reason I decided to analyse only the second and third recorded lessons, numbering

them lesson 1 and lesson 2, treating the first recording as a (repeated) practice,

numbering it as lesson 0. There were two exceptions, Teacher Gizi became ill after the

second lesson, so it was not possible to record a third lesson. Also, although there were

three lessons recorded from Teacher Hajni, the quality of two of the recordings were

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very poor, so instead, the very first recorded lesson was used, alongside with the good

quality one.

The following table shows the dates, the schools, the teachers, and the level of

the class that were visited during the main study:

Table 3.9: Main study recordings, May 2005

No Date School Teacher Level Lesson

1. 02.05.2005 Gólya Hajni elementary 0

2. 02.05.2005 Lovas Gizi elementary 1
3. 03.05.2005 Lovas Franciska elementary 0
4. 04.05.2005 Gólya Hajni elementary 1
5. 05.05.2005 Lovas Gizi elementary 2
6. 06.05.2005 Lovas Franciska elementary 1
7. 06.05.2005 Gólya Hajni elementary 2
8. 09.05.2005 Íglice Kati intermediate 0
9. 09.05.2005 Íglice Ica intermediate 0
10. 10.05.2005 Kakas Piroska intermediate 0
11. 10.05.2005 Kakas Marika intermediate 0
12. 10.05.2005 Lovas Franciska elementary 2
13. 12.05.2005 Íglice Kati intermediate 1
14. 12.05.2005 Kakas Piroska intermediate 1
15. 12.05.2005 Kakas Marika intermediate 1
16. 12.05.2005 Íglice Kati intermediate 2
17. 12.05.2005 Íglice Kati elementary 1
18. 18.05.2005 Íglice Ica intermediate 1
19. 19.05.2005 Kakas Piroska intermediate 2
20. 19.05.2005 Íglice Kati elementary 2
21. 20.05.2005 Kakas Marika intermediate 2
22. 20.05.2005 Íglice Ica intermediate 2

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3.4.3 Observation notes

During each recorded lesson extended notes were also taken. Here is an example of the

first page of one of the notes:

Picture 3.2: Researcher‟s notes during lesson (first page)

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Rationale for taking notes

Without the video recordings, these notes became very important, giving extra

information about the participants, the settings, the activities and other information that

I thought to be valuable. Different things were noted down during the different lessons,

as I always tried to write down as much extra information as possible for further

reference. The notes provided information about my perspectives, as an observer, as the

events were happening, in real time. The notes also allowed me to record my subjective

impressions and interpretations of the events which I was observing. For example, in

the note above I wrote down that a dyslexic student was sitting at the back of the class

not needing to do anything (see comment on this practice in Chapter Six, page 255).

Without having taken extensive notes I might not have remembered this incident when

analysing the data.

Procedures

I usually sat at the back of the classroom, trying to be as unobtrusive as possible. There

I took detailed notes, including the date and the time of the lessons, the number of

pupils, the classroom setting, including the seating, the place of the board, the

decoration. The behaviour of the pupils was also noted if there was anything special,

for example when somebody texted during the lesson, or cheated.

Anything that was written on the board was also written down, alongside who

wrote it; if there were any spelling mistakes in it, for example, this was also recorded in

writing. These extra pieces of information turned out to be very useful during the

transcribing and analysing of the audio recordings, helping me to recall the incidents

more easily and also to be able to put some of the incidents into their wider contexts.

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Limitations

It was important that my presence in the classroom should not be seen by the teachers

as comparable to the occasional inspection visits they receive from the head teacher or

supervisors. Note-takings could have reminded them of these visits, so I explained

before the first recording why and how I would be taking notes. I explained that I

needed them later on, as extra information, to help me remember what was actually

going on. I also tried not to appear any more knowledgeable about teaching or anything

related to research finding while talking to the teachers before and after the lessons. All

the teachers knew that I am myself a FL teacher too and this seemed to help them to see

me as an equal colleague rather than an authority figure.

3.4.4 Interviews

The question as to why teachers do what they do in classrooms cannot be answered

simply by observing the lessons. I needed to ask them about language teaching, what

their aims were, what was keeping them back and helping them. I wanted to find a way

to be able to interview them with as little influence from me as possible. I decided to

use a particular semi-structured way to interview them. The interviewing was

conducted on a separate occasion, some months after the lesson observation sessions.

Rationale for conducting interviews

After the main classroom data collection an open-ended, almost unstructured interview

style was used to try to avoid any significant input of ideas from the researcher

(Bryman, 2008). I used a special interview style, first developed to interview pre-school

teachers by Brown and McIntyre (1993).The idea behind using an observation of a

lesson (activity) and then talk about that particular lesson is to help the teachers

remember what was involved in doing the things they did well and why they did certain

things. The method involved seeing a lesson and as soon as it was possible after the

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lesson conducting an interview, emphasizing the positive things during the lesson,

while trying to avoid the imposition of the researcher‘s preconceptions.

Seeking the teachers‘ own accounts of the events and finding out what really

concerns them is thought to be able to show topics that a structured interview may not

be able to uncover (as the researcher would not know what to ask). Instead of prepared

questions, I had a few opening sentences, for example ―Thank you for letting me see

your lesson. What was it you were most satisfied with during the lessons? What went

really well?‖ The idea was to try to help the teachers to concentrate on the actual lesson

and the actual practice, and try to find out their ―craft knowledge‖. If the teacher started

to talk about ‗what they usually do‗, I attempted to turn the conversation back to the

actual lesson, for example by mentioning an incident from the observed lesson and

asking for a description or explanation of it.

Procedures

In January 2006 the teachers were contacted again, and permission was asked to talk to

them during an interview. All of the teachers were willing to give some more of their

time. In March 2006 I visited the four schools for a final time, and asked the teachers to

choose one lesson for me to see. I explained that there would be no recordings made

during the lesson, no notes taken; the aim would be for me to be able to see a new

lesson and then to talk about that specific lesson.

The lessons the teachers chose for me to see before the interview were from

Grade 4 to 7. Nobody chose to show a lesson in the last grade (Grade 8). In most cases

the interview was conducted right after the lesson (teachers Hajni, Marika, Piroska,

Franciska and Gizi) or one hour later (teacher Ica). Unfortunately Teacher Kati had just

had a stroke and was off sick, so she could not be seen teaching. I visited her at home

and had a long talk with her. During the previous visits Teacher Kati was very talkative

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and offered her opinion, so it was felt that although the final interview would have been

very useful, even without seeing her teaching another lesson, her views were

represented. The other 6 interviews were conducted in empty classrooms. The tape

recorder that had been used to record the lessons was put on the table, between me and

the teacher. The interviews were conducted in Hungarian, to allow the teachers to use

their mother tongue to be able to express their views. Later on all the interviews were

transcribed and translated into English.

At the beginning of the interview the following question was asked: ―What were

you happy (satisfied) with during the lesson?‖ The interview was based on what the

teacher said, how she felt about the lesson. With being able to discuss a concrete lesson

and have the teacher lead the conversation, it was hoped that she would talk about what

really motivates her, what her aims, concerns and thoughts were. The aim was to try to

encourage the teacher to talk about the one particular lesson, what she did and why,

instead of talking in general terms. When the teacher started to talk about things ―they

usually do‖ I tried to bring the conversation back to the here and now, with questions

like: ―Today, when you were doing this, what was your thinking behind it?‖, or ―When

the little boy did that, how did you feel?‖ During the interviews I felt that the teachers

were honest and open about their practices, and willing to think through how they are

teaching, what they are doing during a lesson and why.

Limitations

Some teachers would have liked to talk longer than the available time they had, before

their next lesson. Also, some teachers at first found it difficult to ―praise‖ themselves,

and were struggling a bit at the beginning to say anything positive about their teaching.

This may be because in Hungary self-assessment is usually not part of the daily practice

and for pupils to say something positive about themselves might be viewed as boasting.

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They all relaxed quickly though and gave lots of very useful and interesting

information.

Maybe if the teachers had been teaching another lesson they might have said

different things, emphasising some issues and leaving out others. Overall they talked

about similar issues, and this probably means that these are really the issues, problems

they face in their everyday teaching.

3.4.5 Triangulation

When a holistic view of the research is sought, it is important not to rely on only one

method of data collection and data analysis. Triangulation is the use of two or more

methods of data collection and analysis in studies of people.

…triangular techniques in the social sciences attempt to map out, or explain

more fully, the richness and complexity of human behaviour by studying it
from more than one standpoint, and in so doing, by making use of both
quantitative and qualitative data (Cohen, Manion and Morrison, 2000: 233).

In the present study, both quantitative and qualitative data collection methods were

used. The quantitative analysis was based on frequency counts of the use of the L1 and

the L2, using the evidence of the lesson transcripts, while the qualitative analysis used

not only the recordings, but also the interview data, the notes, the observations and the

researcher‘s previous knowledge and experience (Cresswell, 2007). No researcher can

record everything (Hammersley and Atkinson, 1995), but by the extended period of

involvement, over the months, it was possible to get a fairly balanced, well documented

overall view of the schools, the classes, as well as the teachers and their ways of

teaching.

The sample was relatively small, with only four schools participating, so

generalization to other contexts was not possible, but not necessary either. The main

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question in this case was what theory the researcher could generate out of the findings

(Yin, 2003). It was possible to give a ―rich, thick description‖ of the regular as well as

the irregular, strange, inexplicit events or happenings in the lessons, and by this

process, we were constantly moving closer to the understanding of them (Geertz, 1993).

The schools were different, each representing complex structures, in their

overall culture, as well as their approaches to the teaching of modern foreign languages.

Some started to teach it early, while others only at the officially recommended age.

This gave me the opportunity to compare classes where pupils have been learning

English for years, with pupils of the same age who have just begun to learn it. This

allowed the possibility of a comparative study design. A comparative study embodies

the logic of comparison as it implies that it may be easier to understand social

phenomena better when they are compared in relation to two (or more) meaningfully

contrasting cases or situations (Bryman, 2008).

3.5 Data analysis

3.5.1 Units of analysis

The data analysis was carried out in the tradition of micro-ethnography (Erickson,

1996). After collecting the classroom data, 2 separate quantitative analyses were carried

out before the qualitative analysis.

Firstly a word count method was used to determine the amount of spoken

language in the classroom, and the distribution of the 2 different languages (L1 and L2)

both in the speech of the teachers and the pupils. This analysis made it possible to make

systematic comparisons amongst the different lessons and teachers. This analysis was

carried out in order to be able to answer the first research question: “How much L1 was

used in the lessons?”

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 Secondly a functional analysis was done, concentrating on the use of the L1 by

the teacher. The instances of L1 use by the teacher were identified and segmented into

utterances (see page 113). Each utterance was coded according to its function. This

analysis was carried out in order to be able answer the second research question: “Why

did the teachers use the L1?”

A qualitative analysis followed, using the lessons transcripts, the information

from the notes taken during the lessons and the interviews with the teachers, to be able

to give a holistic answer to the second research question (“Why did the teachers use the

L1?”), and also to answer the third research question: ―What are the teachers‟ beliefs,

attitudes towards the L1 use during teaching?”

3.5.2 Frequency of L1 and L2 words

Rationale for the word count

There are several ways of estimating the amount of L1 and L2 use in the classroom.

Table 3.10: Ways of estimating the amount of L1 and L2 use

Study Method of estimating the L1 use
Calman and Daniel, 1998 Timing how much L1 is used
Macaro, 1998 5 seconds sampling
Macaro and Mutton, 2002 5 seconds sampling
Duff and Polio, 1990 15 second sampling
Polio and Duff, 1994 Utterance counting (the previous data)
Rolin-Ianziti and Brownlie, 2002 Word count
Rubagumya, 1994 Counting the incidents (equivalent with utterances) of
L1occurrence
Swain and Lapkin, 2000 Counting and analysing turns as units (students L1 use)

As Polio and Duff (1994: 325) points out, sampling, counting the utterances or the

words of the two languages used by the teacher and comparing them can give different

results. With the time-based coding, if one type of utterance is usually shorter than the

other, there is more chance to land on the longer utterance. With the method of

counting the utterances in the two different languages and then comparing them, the

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problem may be that this method does not take into account the length or the quality of

the utterances.

Counting the words may have problems too, if the two languages have different

orthographic, morphological and syntactic systems, for example when a word in an

agglutinative language (like Hungarian in the present study) and a word of another type

of language (like English for example), are compared. ―With my dog‖ has three words

in English but it is just one word in Hungarian: ―kutyámmal‖.

The present study decided to use the word count method for estimating the

amount of L1 and L2 use. Hungarian may use fewer words than English for the same

amount of information in certain cases, usually in more complex forms, for example in

the past tense (‗elmehettetek‘ = „you might have gone away‟), or using the causative

(‗kidekoráltatjuk a házunkat‘ = „we will be having our house decorated‟). The

transcripts from the 4 lessons in the pilot study showed that the L1 was usually used in

a simple present or past tense with short instructions, and simple sentence structures.

This usually gave around the same number of L1 words as there would be in the

translation of the L2.

(1) Teacher Alíz, turn 476

a Zolinak a rajza? Persze itt van igen

„Zoli‟s picture? Of course it is here yes‟

(2) Teacher Dóri, turn 105

gyere

„come‟

(3) Teacher Csilla, turn 15

kivéve ugye azokat akiknek nincs itt a piros könyve

„except those who have not got their red book‟

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(4) Teacher Bea, turn 404

Kinek volt teljesen hibátlan?

‘Whose homework was totally correct?‘

It is also true that the longer utterances often had fewer L1 words than the same

message would have had in the L2. This does not affect the word count, but this has to

be kept in mind when making comparisons of L1 and L2 word counts.

The word count method can give different results, depending on if the L1 use is

given out of the whole teacher talk, or out of the whole lesson talk (Macaro, 1998).

Because of this, I decided to calculate the amount of the teachers‘ L1 use firstly out of

the whole number of words used during the lesson, and secondly, from the teachers‘

talk only, to see if this gives a different result.

Procedures

To be able to count the L1 and L2 words used by the different participants, in the

transcripts, the different features were highlighted in Microsoft Word with different

colours.

Example 3.7: Lesson Teacher Etelka (Pilot)

15 T : Who hasn‘t got homework? One. Okay I te sok versenyen voltál most <you have been to
lots of competitions recently> okay so Berni
16 S : (xxxx)
17 T : Just a moment please (2.0) I am going to ((she is trying to find the names of the students
in her notebook)) (2.0) okay

The following table shows all the different features, with the styles that were associated

with them. The third column gives real examples from the scripts.

Table 3.11: Colours & formats used for coding the scripts for word count
Feature Style Example
Participant ID PINK T: S: Ss: T&Ss: C: R:
English Default Winnie can see him
Hungarian RED jó mindenki felírta a nevét a papírra?
Comment SEA GREEN ((teacher writes on board from sec 2 to 5))
Unclear BRIGHT GREEN (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx?)

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 Names of students BROWN Balázskám
Pause PLUM (2.0)
―non-verbal vocalisation‖ BLUE mm, aha, ö
Truncated word, probably
Default, underlined Miste
in English
Truncated word, probably
RED UNDERLINED Fi
in Hungarian
English word used as
Hungarian, with or BLACK BOLD snowboardozunk?
without suffixes
The letter is pronounced in
BLACK BOLD H
English
The letter is pronounced in
RED BOLD U
Hungarian
Code-mixing at a word
GRAY train-nel <with train>
level
English translation LIGHT ORANGE <Congratulation Martin?>

After the colour coding, the paragraphs were sorted by the first letter (teacher: T,

student: S, students: Ss, Cassette: C). This separated the different participants. Because

in the scripts the colours were associated with particular styles, it was possible to

highlight all examples of a particular style from each participant, and carry out a word

count on the highlighted text. This way of analysis is possible because Microsoft Word

can search for example for all the red words in a document and count them. This

method gives the amount of L1 and L2 use of the following participants:

Table 3.12: The different participants during the recorded lessons

T Teacher

S Student, when one student spoke alone

Ss Students, when some or all students spoke together

T&S Teacher and student, when one student and teacher spoke

T&Ss Teacher and students, when some or all students and teacher spoke together

Ss&C/V Students and cassette/video, when the students spoke with the cassette/video

C/V Cassette/video, when the cassette or video was used (see Appendix 6 for

transcription conventions).

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Only when the teacher spoke alone was the transcript coded as Teacher talk. If the

teacher spoke with a student or students, this was coded as Opportunity for students

(when they used the L2). Opportunity for students also included when the students

talked together (SS), with a cassette or video (Ss&C/V), all in the L2 (Macaro, 1998).

The features of the present coding system

1. Non-verbal vocalisations (for example ‗mmm‘, ‗aha‘, ‗om‘) and truncated

words, either in L1 or L2 (for example ‗mar‘, ‗quan‘), were not added to the

word count. Neither were individual letters of the alphabet and the unclear

words, even if it was possible to guess how many words were used, and in

which language.

2. ‗Okay‘ can be used in both the L1 or in L2. It was coded as part of the L1 if it

was used in the L1 utterance, and part of the L2 utterance if it was embedded

into the L2: (In the following examples, next to the word ―Example‖ the capital

letter gives the initial of the teacher and the number is the lesson number.) (See

the 16 lesson scripts in Appendix 7.)

Example 3.8: Lesson Ica 1

Original script Translated script
09 T : yes please give me back give it to yes please give me back give it to
me please thank you (5.0) me please thank you (5.0)
Wednesday morning latest Wednesday morning latest
okay okay
thank you (4.0) yes aki nem írta alá thank you (4.0) yes <for those who
az igen tudom aki nem iratta alá did not sign it yes I know those who
azt szerdán reggel utoljára kérem did not get it signed that last is
szépen jó? Wednesday morning right?>
okay <okay>
és akkor osztogatnám ugyhogy <and now I am about to distribute it
ellenőrzőt elő lehet venni mer so you can take out your report
akkor osztogatnám a következő books and I am distributing the next
adagot lot>

If it was at the boundary of the L1 and L2, like in Example 3.9, it was coded as

L2, assuming that the default language is the L2. This assumption may be

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 questioned in certain cases. This will be discussed in the final chapter, in the

discussion. I will show and explain why some teachers gave up teaching in the

L2 almost completely (see page 242).

Example 3.9: Lesson Franciska 1

Original script Translated script
93 S : nem tanultuk <we have not learned it>
94 T : okay Okay
train (2.0) train vonat mit írtam? train (2.0) train <train what have I
written?>
95 S : van <is>
3. ‗Schwa‘ was often used in the teachers‘ speech; this was omitted from the word

count.

4. The names of the students were often used both in L1 and L2 utterances (between

34 and 88 times during a lesson) (see Appendix 2). Often there was no contextual

clue to which language was the default language, with many single nominations,

and often names were used between the boundaries of the two languages. It was

decided not to include the names in the word count, but treat them as a separate

category. This way the Hungarian names themselves did not raise the amount of

L1 use.

5. There were only a very few occasions when the code switching happened at the

word level. This can happen because Hungarian is an agglutinative language. If

the teacher used an English word in a Hungarian sentence, it often needed a

Hungarian suffix added, for example: Irj egy mondatot a ‗dog‘-gal. <Write a

sentence with the (word) ‗dog‘>. Here a Hungarian suffix, ‗-gal‘ is added to the

word, which is the equivalent of ‗with‘. These words always appeared in the

context of a L1 utterance, so they were coded as L1 words.

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3.5.3 Functional analysis of utterances

To be able to start to answer the second research question: ―Why were the teachers

using the L1?‖ it is necessary to go beyond the words, and look at the classroom

discourse, including the speech of the other participants. So, first a brief summary is

needed into the research of classroom discourse.

Classroom discourse

The discourse of the classroom has been researched from different perspectives.

Perhaps one of the most important findings was the discovery that the functional

analysis of language can be carried out at different levels, giving rise to a hierarchy of

categories, mostly controlled by the teacher (Sinclair and Coulthard, 1975; Coulthard,

1977; Sinclair and Brazil, 1982). The units in Sinclair and Coulthard‘s scheme are as

follows: Lesson, Transaction, Sequence, Exchange, Move, Act (Sinclair and Coulthard,

1975: 24).

Although the scheme was based on the analysis of the use of English in

mainstream content classes, with some modification it can be applied to the use of

language in language classrooms. The biggest unit is the Lesson, but it is difficult to

provide a structure for a Lesson (Coulthard 1977: 101). For this reason Transaction will

be the biggest unit in the analysis of this thesis. In the present data the Transaction

usually corresponds to what we can think of as an activity. Transactions, according to

Sinclair and Brazil (1982: 53) are marked by Frame boundaries. They have one or more

Sequences and some Exchanges. A Sequence is a number of Exchanges planned

together, An Exchange in a typical L1 classroom is Teacher-Pupil-Teacher, usually the

teacher initiates, the pupil responds and the teacher then provides feedback (IRF). A

Move is a component of the Exchange, roughly equivalent to the turn, although not

identical, as in some cases a turn may have more than one Move. The smallest unit, the

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Act relates to the language function, depending on the discourse.The following example

shows part of a sequence from Teacher Alíz‘s lesson:

Example 3.10: Lesson Teacher Alíz (Pilot)

53. T : … Gergő Move 1 Act 1
er when were you born? Initiation Act 2
54. S : I was born in March Move 2
Exchange 1 Act 3
Response
55. T : in March Move 3
Act 4
Feedback
when were you born? Act 5
Move 4
Peti Act 6
56. S : I in Move 5 Act 7
Exchange 2
57. T : I was born Move 6 Act 8
58. S : I was born in July Move 7 Act 9
59. T : in July Move 8 Act 10

Macaro (1998: 66) points out some of the possible differences between the L1 and L2

classroom discourse. He argues that in the L2 classrooms the new information (the new

language content) is presented in a much more transparent way to the learners. His data

was from communicative oriented L2 classrooms, with student teachers teaching adult

learners. In it there seemed to be little new information (in the sense of world

knowledge) being passed on from teacher to students. Instead, the main aim was to

keep the interaction going. So, teachers in his study rarely used Focusing Moves, for

example: ―Today we are going to learn about common illnesses‖.

I would argue that in the young learners‘ L2 classrooms sometimes teachers

give new information, even in the L1. Young children are still learning their L1 and

more complex concepts about the world. I would also argue that in the observed

classrooms the teachers often used Focusing Moves and made the learning intentions

explicit. The following example shows one of the occasions when the teacher explicitly

tells the pupils what it is they would be learning:

Example 3.11 : Lesson Franciska 2

Original script Translated script
15 T : na utoljára vesszük elő a plakátot <well, this is the last time we take out the
… no miről szólt miről egyáltalán? poster….well what was it about?… why
… miért vettük elő ezt a verset? have we taken out the poem? What is it we
Miről tanulunk mostanába még egy- have been learning about recently, during

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 két órán keresztül nem a the last few lessons? not about monsters
szörnyekről hanem a… but…>
16 S : a város <the town>
17 T : hogy mondják azt a nyelvtani <what is the name of that grammatical
szerkezetet? structure?>
18 S : there is there are there is there are
18 T : there is there are jól van … there is there are <well done> …

Another difference between the L1 and L2 classrooms can be seen at the level of the

Exchange.

The Exchange usually contains an Initiation (I), usually by the teacher,

Response (R) by the students and Feedback (F) by the teacher. In the L1 classroom the

Response is often forward-looking, and whatever choices the learners make usually

influence the following discourse, and so would have an effect on the following Moves

and Exchanges. For example, if the teacher asks a question: ―Is it correct to use 'some‘

in this sentence?‘ the students can chose from a minimal response (―no‖), or can

construct a wide range of responses, that are not constrained at all (Sinclair and Brazil,

1982: 40). In the L2 classroom, on the other hand, the Exchange is usually strictly

controlled (closed). The aim of the teacher is to expose the learners to the language and

make them answer correctly, read and translate, repeat, ask or say it by heart. Macaro

(1998) suggests that in the language classrooms the students‘ responses rarely have an

effect on the future Exchanges, except if learners made a mistake and the teacher makes

them correct it. The following section shows why the utterance was chosen as a unit of

analysis.

Utterance

All 7 teachers use both L2 and L1 while teaching. Sometimes the whole turn had only

L1 words, other times only L2 words, but often in one turn there were both L1 and L2

words. A further segmentation was needed to be able to identify the different functions

for the L1 use. At the same time this analysis could not be done without seeing the

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‗bigger picture‗, the discourse in the whole turn, and even using information from the

exchange itself.

It has to be mentioned here that it could be difficult, if not impossible, to find a

single unit of analysis that would serve all purposes. Depending on the different

characteristics of the discourse it is necessary to choose different units, knowing that

some ambiguities would probably arise within any system. Written language is usually

analysed by its sentence structure. Spoken language (and the transcribed version of it),

on the other hand, is not so easy to analyse, as there are no obvious starting and

finishing points to a unit. Linguists have used different units of analysis for the spoken

language, for example the T-unit, c-unit, Idea-unit, tone unit/tone group, utterance or

turn (see for summary of these units Crookes, 1990, Foster, Tonkyn and Wigglesworth,

2000).

When the focus is on the L1 use itself in FL classrooms, different studies use

different units for the functional analysis Macaro (1998) suggests that it is possible to

code every instance of L1 use into one clear category. For example, whenever L1 use

occurred within the L2 boundary (L2/////L1////L2) it was possible to code it as, for

example, ―Message oriented, Information-giving, Reprimand‖ (Macaro, 1998: 180).

This worked well with his data; he had researched where the teachers tried to follow the

advice to ―maximise the L2 use‖ and only resorted to the L1 when absolutely necessary

and even then only for a short period. Some teachers in the present study, on the other

hand, used the L1 extensively, and often switched between languages in a single turn,

or used only the L1 in some of the turns. This meant that it was not possible to code

every instance of L1 use into one category.

Others also needed a more open way to categorise the L1 use, probably because

more L1 was used, and also because its use was often more complex. Rolin-Ianziti and

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Brownlie (2002) found that some turns displayed a combination of several different

reasons for code switching. In their data they not only found longer stretches of L1

(English) use, but also intra-sentential switches, L2 (French) embedded in the L1

(English).

The following example shows a turn from their data:

Example 3.12: Coding a turn

T: Ils ont cinq petits-enfants./
Grandchildren./ TRANSLATION
O.K.?/
French is a little more logical
with grands-parents and
CONTRAST
petits-enfants instead of
grandchildren./
I don‟t know what‟s grand
about grandchildren? STATE OF MIND
((laughing))

(Coding a turn, Rolin-Ianziti and Brownlie, 2002: 410)

In the above example L1 use was included under three categories: Translation, Contrast

and Teacher expressing state of mind (joking). The three categories are closely related

to three separate utterances, where the utterance is identified as a stream of speech, with

at least one of the 3 characteristics:

 It is under one intonation

 It has pauses as boundaries

It constitutes a single semantic unit (Crookes and Rulon, 1985: 9).

In the whole turn there are 5 utterances, marked by the ―/‖ sign. The first

utterance is all in the L2. The second is the translation of the last word into the L1. The

third utterance is treated as if it were in the L2, a question or a discourse marker. The

fourth utterance is an explanation, contrasting the two languages, with both L2 and L1

words in it. The fifth utterance is a joke in L1 about the English word ―grandchildren‖.

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 This method of segmenting the discourse of the teachers into utterances and

then identifying the functions of each utterance was adopted and used. From the

discourse of the teachers all the turns that had any L1 words in them were selected and

segmented into utterances.

Procedure

Segmenting

The data from the 16 main lessons were segmented in Microsoft Word. Each utterance

that contained L1 words was put in a separate line. Then the segmented transcript was

transferred into an Excel document, and here each utterance was coded, according to its

functions. This made it possible to count the different functions, and also to compare

the results between the different levels and teachers.

Designing the coding scheme

It was not possible to use any existing coding scheme, partly because of the uniqueness

of the context of this study. It has been mentioned in the literature review that very little

research on the use of the L1 by teachers has been conducted in primary classrooms.

The other reason why a new coding scheme was needed is the way the teachers spoke

during the lessons. Each teacher used a different amount of L1 while conducting the

lessons, but all of them negotiated the meaning of material in the textbooks to the

students. Most of them used some communicative techniques but at the same time were

also teaching vocabulary and grammar. This resulted in their using the L1 for many

different functions.

The table below shows studies from both foreign language and bilingual

classrooms, and studies with students from different age groups, summarising the

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functional categories and lesson frames that were used for the analysis of the language

use of the teachers:

Table 3.13: Functional categories and frames

Functional categories

Bors (2003) Pedagogic functions of teachers‘ F-moves (I-R-F)

Macaro (1998) message-oriented medium-oriented

Rolin-Ianziti and
translation metalinguistic uses communicative uses
Brownlie (2002)

Pennington (1995) compensatory strategic

lesson support
Pennington (1999) lesson frame institutional frame commentary frame
frame
Flyman-Mattson topic switches
socialising affective functions repetitive
and Burenhult (grammar
functions (emotions) functions
(1999) teaching)

In the data for the present study there were three main functional categories:

1. translating L2 items into L1 items

2. explaining ―the language‖ (the form, the pronunciation or the spelling)

3. functions that are related to communication.

These main categories were used in Rolin-Ianziti and Brownlie‘s (2002: 409-410)

study too. They also used sub-categories for each main function, but because some of

the L1 utterances of the Hungarian teachers did not fit into their scheme, it was

necessary to use some categories from Macaro (1998), Flyman-Mattsson and Burenhult

(1999) and also to develop new categories. The coding scheme is firmly built on

Sinclair and Coulthard‘s (1975, 1992) model of analysing discourse. At the head of

every initiating move there are three discourse categories, informative, elicitation and

directive. These are all realised in the coding, with the help of the recognition of the

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IRF sequence and the use of markers. The present system uses the term elicitation as a

discourse category, rather than a syntactic category (Tsui, 1992).

The following section shows the final coding scheme of this research. There is

an explanation of the definitions of the different main and sub-functions immediately

after it.

Coding scheme for L1 functions of the teachers:

The coding scheme used Rolin-Ianziti and Brownlie‘s (2002: 409, 410) one as a basis.

It has three main categories, ‗Translation‘, ‗Metalinguistic Uses‘, and ‗Communicative

Uses‘. Some of the sub-cateories of the ‗Communicative Uses‘ have been omitted, and

others adapted, for example, the concept of ‗Checking Comprehension‘ is incorporated

into the category of ‗Question‘. ‗Teacher‘s reaction to student request‘ has been

expanded to include everything the students asked in the L1, and ‗Teacher expressing

state of mind‘, as ‗Metacomment‘ was adapted to include sub-categories: ‗Apology‘,

‗Discipline‘, ‗Praise‘ and ‗Encourage‘. The scheme also included two categories from

Macaro‘s (1998: 187, 188), namely ‗Inside plane shift‘ and ‗Outside plane shift‘. Three

other categories, not present in either of the above mentioned schemes, called ‗Marker‘,

‗Outside lesson frame‘, and ‗Cannot be coded‘, were also used.

1. Translation (switching from the L2 to the L1 to make input comprehensible)

a. translation of written L2 items into L1

b. translation of spoken L2 items into L1

2. Meta-linguistic use (switching from talking in L2 to talking about L2 in the L1)

a. explaining L2 forms (grammar) or comparing it with the L1 forms

b. explaining L2 pronunciation or comparing it with the L1 pronunciation

c. explaining L2 spelling or comparing it with the L1 spelling

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3. Question (expecting verbal [possibly non-verbal] response from the students)

a. information question (the teacher does not know the answer)

b. eliciting or display question (the teacher knows the answer)

4. Instruction (expecting action from the students)

a. the action follows right after the instruction

b. the action is expected later on

5. Information (expecting acknowledgement from the students)

a. feedback (teacher initiated, student/s responded, and now the teacher reacts

to the response by echoing the answer, evaluating it or both)

b. inside plane shift (teacher talks about the happenings, usually to help the

process – scaffolding)

c. outside plane shift (teacher talks about past or future, not related to the here

and now)

6. Affective response (teacher expressing state of mind, shaping behaviour)

a. apology

b. discipline

c. praise

d. encouragement

e. joke

7. Teacher‟s reaction to student request in the L1 (can be translation, meta-

linguistic use, question, instruction, information, affective response or marker)

8. Metacomment or aside (teacher talking to her/himself)

9. Marker (changing the discourse direction for example ―good", ―now", ―well",

―right")

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10. Outside the lesson frame (teacher talking to researcher, other students, nurse

entering lesson)

11. Cannot be coded (segment, not clear what was before or after)

Explanation of the coding scheme

1. Translation:

Only word for word translation of the previous L2 utterance/s or written text

was classified as translation. The teacher makes the input comprehensible by

translating either her L2 speech or part of it, or written text from the book,

exercise book, the board, or from extra material. S/he can also translate what the

student or students just said or wrote.

There are two sub-categories, translating from spoken language and

translating from written language.

2. Meta-linguistic use

The teacher explicitly explains grammatical forms, spelling rules or

pronunciation to the students in the L1.

3. Question

The teacher is asking something, expecting a verbal answer from the student or

students. Sometimes the answer may be non-verbal, for example nodding. The

questions are sometimes not answered, or the teacher herself answers them. In

these cases rising intonation, pauses, repetition of the question or self answering

are the clues that show it was intended to be a question.

The question can be a ―real‖ question, when the teacher does not know

the answer, for example ―Who is missing today?‖ or an elicitation (display

question), when the teacher knows the answer, but wants to know if the students

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know it. These elicitations include comprehension questions, asking for the

meaning/pronunciation/spelling of a word.

This coding scheme codes only L1 utterances or utterances with L1 in

them. L2 questions are not analysed here. L2 questions can also be used to ask

―a real question, or to practice the language, for example ―How are you?‖ could

be either a real question, if the teacher sees a student looking unwell, but it

could also be a display question, for practising the answer in the L2. In some

cases, for an observer, it would be difficult or even impossible to decide how

real a L2 question is. On the other hand, when a L1 utterance is used as a

question, this is not the case. Here is a comparison of two imaginary examples:

Example 3.13: Real and display questions

Original script Translated script
T : Nem érzed jól magad? <Are you not well?>
a S : Köszönöm semmi bajom <Thanks, I don‟t have a problem.>
T : Rendben van. <All right.>

T : Nem érzed jól magad? <Are you not well?>

b S : Are you not well? Are you not well?
T : Good. Good.

In example ―(a)‖ the teacher is genuinely concerned about a student, while in

example ―(b)‖ the question is a request for translation. (In the coding scheme of

the present study this second example would be coded as an instruction, not a

question.) If the student does not pay attention to the previous discourse, or if

s/he does not understand the exercise, it is possible to give a wrong answer, for

example to make a mistake in the translation. From the response of the

student/s and the teacher‘s feedback (accepting or correcting the answer) it is

always clear what the intention of the L1 question was in the FL lessons.

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4. Instruction

The teacher says something and the student(s) need to react. There are two sub-

categories under instruction giving:

a) Instruction for now

The reaction can be physical (stand up), or paying attention (listen) or saying

something. The reaction is immediately after the instruction (this would relate to

the activity most of the time).

b) Instruction for later on

The teacher tells the students to do something later on. Usually this is an

instruction about homework or test during the following lesson. It often

involves taking out or opening homework jotters, writing down the homework,

or what needs to be learned for the test. Then, at home, the students need to do

something. (See the difference between instruction and information below.)

5. Information giving

The students usually do not need to do anything after the piece of information is

given. This separates it from the instruction; for example, if the teacher is

talking about the following lesson, and telling them that they will be learning

about chocolate, this would be information. If she tells them to look up words

about chocolate for the next lesson, this would be instruction, even if the

―action‖ from the students would be non-physical (they need to remember what

to do), or they need to write the homework down. There are three sub-categories

under information giving:

a) Feedback

This sub-category is closely related to Sinclair and Coulthard‘s 1975 three part

IRF structure. The teacher initiates, the student(s) answers and the teacher

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provides feedback. When the teacher uses the L1 to give feedback, s/he may be

echoing the student/s‘ L1 answer (if they had been asked to translate something

from the L2), or s/he repeats the answer, with correction, or with extra

information, or s/he gives evaluation. Feedback can also be given after the

completed activity, or at the end of the lesson.

Sometimes the feedback is given as not to close the IRF structure, but to

help towards the closure. See the following example:

Example 3.14: Lesson Ica 2

Original script Translated script
90 T : …the dog walked onto the bridge …the dog walked onto the bridge
and looked into the water and looked into the water
na ez mi történt a kutyával? <so what happened to the dog?>
felsétált a^ <walked onto the^
91. S : hídra és <bridge and>
92 T : hídra és^ <bridge and^>
93. S : benézett a vízbe <looked into the water>
94. T : vízbe <water>
így van <that‟s right>
belenézett a vízbe <looked into the water>

In turn 90 the teacher first reads a sentence, then she asks for translation. In turn

91 a student translates part of the sentence. In turn 92 the teacher gives feedback

by repeating the student‘s answer (in the L1), this signals to the student that the

translation was correct, and so s/he continues and finishes it. In this case the

feedback was used both to signal the correctness of the answer and help with

the rest of the verbal response.

b) Inside plane shift

This sub-category (Macaro, 1998 : 188) refers to the use of the L1 by the

teacher that is related to the procedures and the pedagogy of the immediate topic

and/or discourse. It does not shift the attention of the learner away from the

present activity, but provides further help by giving contextual information or

repair.

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 c) Outside plane shift

This sub-category (Macaro, 1998: 187) refers to those utterances that are related

to a subject or an event not closely connected to the present activity (discourse

about the previous lesson, or information about a forthcoming event). It

indicates a ―shift in the area of attention‖ (Sinclair and Brazil, 1982: 32).

6. Affective response

This category refers to the teacher expressing her/his state of mind. Five

subcategories were found in the data.

a) Apology

When the teacher thought s/he had done something wrong or forgot something,

she apologised.

b) Discipline

When, on the other hand s/he thought that the students did something wrong she

verbally disciplined them, in the form of warning, or telling them off, for

example: ―if you do not behave you will get a black mark‖ or ―you were really

bad today‖.

c) Praise

If the students did something really good, the teacher praised them, told them

how well they performed, for example ―well done‖ or ―you are very clever‖.

d) Encouragement

If the students seemed to be shy, or needed a bit of help, sometimes the teacher

tried to encourage them, telling them that they could do the exercise or

remember the word. In both praising and encouraging the teacher could say

things like ―you are clever‖, but praising ended like this, without a further

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only the opening for a request to do something.

e) Joke

There were some remarks that were obviously playful, some funny, some a bit

sarcastic. These were coded under the sub-category: joking.

7. Teacher reaction to student request in the L1

This was coded as a separate category. This was one of the categories, where

the coding would have been impossible without the knowledge of the context.

The teacher‘s L1 utterance could have any function, but the most important

feature of this category is that the initiating move came from the student. In

teacher-dominated classrooms it was thought to be an important aspect of how

often the students tried to start a conversation in the L1.

Example 3.15: Lesson Franciska 1

Original script Translated script
113 T : így szól az első versszak már a <this is what the first paragraph says
szemeddel egyszer átolvastad (4.0) you have read it once with your eyes>
((laughter)) the waiter in the café is (4.0) ((laughter)) the waiter in the
a big blue monster café is a big blue monster
114. S : nem itt kezdődik Fanni néni <it does not start here Aunty Fanni>
115. S : itt kezdődik Fanni néni <it starts here Aunty Fanni>
116. T : igen <yes>

8. Metacomment (or asides)

According to Sinclair and Coulthard‘s (1992) classification metacomment could

be a statement, question or command. It is usually marked by lowering the tone

of voice, and it is not addressed to the class, but the teacher is talking to herself:

Example 3.16: Lesson Ica 1

Original script Translated script
35 T : … Patrícia come on (3.0) ssss … Patrícia come on (3.0) ssss
valahova odasuvasztjuk mer már <we will squeeze it somewhere
nem fér be. Regina because there is no more place
left> Regina

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 Here the teacher is writing the marks into the teacher diary, and there is hardly

any space left for the mark. As she is writing she is talking to herself about it.

9. Marker

The marker is realised by certain short words, with falling intonation. Its

function is to mark the boundaries of the Transaction or the Exchange (Sinclair

and Coulthard, 1992). To be able to decide if certain words (for example

―okay‖, ―now‖, ―well‖) were markers, it was often not enough to read the script.

It was also necessary to listen to the tape recording, the intonation, the pauses,

as well as analysing the discourse after them. There are certain Hungarian words

that are often used as markers, for example: ―jó‖ (good), ―tehát‖ (well).

10. Outside the lesson frame

This feature of the discourse always happened in the L1. These instances were

not part of the lesson frame, but were distractions, for example when students

from other classes, or a teacher or once even a nurse walked in during the

lesson, asked something, or said something to the teacher or the class. The

teacher also sometimes talked to the researcher, explaining things or asking

things. Before the lesson the researcher explained that she did not want to be

part of the lesson, and during the lesson usually tried to be invisible, sitting at

the back of the classroom, but some teachers still tried to involve her.

11. Cannot be coded

Sometimes it was not possible to decide the function of the teacher‘s L1 use,

usually because although the utterance was clear, the previous one was not, and

so it was not possible to know if something was, for example, echo or an answer

to a student‘s question. In some cases the function of the utterance could not be

identified because there were gaps in the transcript:

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 Example 3.17: Lesson Ica 1
Original script Translated script
12 S : volt (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx) <was> (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
13 T : jó majd meglátjuk <all right we will see>
de az mér? <but why that?>
mért csak az egyikre van kérdés <why is there a question to only one of
és a többi? them and the rest?>
14 S : (xxxx xxxx) (xxxx xxxx)

In turn 13 the teacher says ―all right, we will see‖. Because the previous utterance is not

audible, it is not possible to know why the teacher said it. Fortunately most of time the

speech before or after the teacher‘s utterances was also audible.

Limitations

This coding scheme, as any others has its limitations. One of the problems was that

some of the utterances could be coded into different categories, depending on the

interpretation of the coder. For example, asking a question with a bit of joking or giving

feedback with some encouragement. Because the coding required some interpretation

and judgement from the person who was doing it, it was a fairly high-inference scheme

and so was less reliable than a lower inference scheme would have been (Miles and

Huberman, 1994).

To compensate this, a detailed description of the coding scheme, with examples,

was written out. Two randomly selected lesson scripts were analysed. First all the L1

was translated into L2 by the researcher. These were then coded, by two independent

native speakers, as well as by the researcher. The results were then compared. They

showed over 90% of agreement. Then any disagreements in them were discussed. The

problem was that a few times the transcript alone did not provide enough information.

Extra information from the notes, lesson observations, course books, exercise books

was needed to make sense of the classroom discourse and the speech of the teacher.

Fortunately these were available. It was felt that a rate of 90% inter-rate reliability

(calculated on utterances) was acceptable for a high-inference scheme.

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3.5.4 Qualitative analysis

Rationale

The aim of the present study was to give a rich, thick description of the classrooms and

to offer some explanations how some Hungarian English language teachers were

teaching and what their aims were and if they had any concerns, problems or issues,

related to their English language teaching to young pupils. The semi-structured

interviews allowed them to express their thoughts, ideas and beliefs. I also collected

data from other sources, from the classroom observations, from talking to other

teachers, students and heads. I saw official documents, lesson plans, tests, exam papers,

all of this adding to the complex issue of teaching.

The qualitative analysis is based on the interview scripts with the teachers, but

uses information from the many other sources that were also investigated.

Procedure

The interviews with the teachers were transcribed and translated. The transcripts were

analysed by firstly reading through them many times, taking notes, highlighting

important points or recurring themes. These ideas were constantly compared with the

other available data. The themes identified in the transcripts were then grouped into

wider themes. It appeared that there were two main themes running through what the

teachers were talking about, things that they felt they were supposed to do, and things

that they felt were preventing them from achieving the aims they wanted to achieve.

Two categories, ‗pressures‘ and ‗constraints‘, seemed to be expressing the ideas

behind these themes best, and so they were adopted as the framework for the analysis.

Once the two main themes were identified, I went through the interviews again,

highlighting every instance where the teachers mentioned any pressures or any

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constraints. I also added to this my observation, knowledge and the information from

the rest of the documents.

Limitations

The teachers sometimes also talked about things that were neither pressures nor

constraints, so deciding to concentrate on those inevitably caused that some information

was missed out. For example some teachers talked about their colleagues, about

individual students, the relationship with the students, about having fun and laughter in

the lessons, teaching expressions not single words, dictionaries and whether to use them

with young learners. Overall there were not many themes that seemed to be left out, and

with the help of the extra available information it is felt that the two themes represent

fairly well what the teachers were most concerned about during the interviews.

3.5.5 Validity and reliability

The aim of the study was to visit classrooms and observe what happened there, and

then generate theory or theories that explained the data. Two different settings were

chosen, one with elementary learners and the other with intermediate ones, to be able to

see whether certain variables influence the findings, by constant comparison, a

methodological principle that is often invoked in qualitative research (Goetz and

LeCompte, 1981). Triangulation was also used, in the form of lesson observation, note

taking, and talking to other teachers, heads and students, to maximise the amount of

available information. Because I am also a fellow teacher, this helped both to gain

permission to see lessons and to be able to interpret the findings.

The validity of a piece of research is concerned with the accuracy of the

findings. Internal validity refers to the extent to which scientific observations and

measurements are accurate representations of some reality, while external validity

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addresses the degree to which such representations may be compared legitimately

across groups (LeCompte and Goetz, 1982).

With regard to internal validity, the audio recordings of the classrooms captured

the lessons and especially the speech of the teachers and the students well, although

without the visual help of a video recording some details were inevitably lost. The fact

that I was present during all the recorded lessons and also took extended notes about the

lessons compensated for the possible lack of visual clues from the audio recordings.

The interviews with the teachers gave a valid representation of their views about their

lessons and the problems they faced, and showed their beliefs and attitudes to teaching

English in the primary classrooms. Overall, with the data collection methods of this

study, the measurements that are suggested in this thesis are fair representations of what

was happening during the lessons. I also believe that the interviews showed what the

teachers thought, especially because they were virtually non-directive, allowing them to

talk about what really concerned them.

As for external validity, the fact that my main data was collected from only 4 schools in

one district of Budapest, and at only one grade, Primary Grade 4, and only during the

last session of the school year, means that any generalisations from the findings of the

present study are very limited. Generalisation was not the aim of the study. The aims

were to present the findings as comparable, to serve as the basis for comparison with

other groups, and to make them translatable, to identify the research methods, analytic

categories and characteristics explicitly (Wolcott, 1973). Describing these few

classrooms and their practices in detail allowed me to make some assumptions, and

could help some future research to compare the findings with other settings, especially

with those language classrooms where major changes have been implemented.

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 The reliability of research is concerned with the replicability of the research

findings. External reliability addresses the question of whether independent researchers

would discover the same phenomena or generate the same constructs in the same or

similar settings, while internal reliability refers to the degree to which other

researchers, given a set of previously generated constructs, would match them with data

in the same way as did the original researcher (LeCompte and Goetz, 1982).

The nature of ethnographic research poses problems regarding its reliability.

While controlled laboratory research is designed to be possible to replicate, this is

impossible for those who study naturalistic behaviour or real life events. Unique events,

like language lessons cannot be replicated because, even with the same teacher and

same students, the next lesson will inevitably be different. Also, while other researchers

may visit lessons from the same class, the results will be different because the

ethnographic process is personal; no ethnographer works just like another (LeCompte

and Goetz, 1982: 36).

So instead of aiming for a reliable result, the ethnographer establishes the

credibility of the study by attempting to describe systematically the characteristics of

variables and phenomena, generating and refining conceptual categories, discovering

and validating associations among phenomena (Scriven, 1974). In the present study I

attempt to make meaningful comparisons between the many variables, firstly describing

them, and then generating more and more abstract categories. The pilot study results

helped to focus the investigation, but the findings of the main study made it necessary

to go back to the theory again and refine the concepts. Using both quantitative and

qualitative analyses also helped to compare the results and discover relationships

between the different variables.

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 During my analysis I have attempted to give a balanced description of the whole

situation, with the realisation that the complexity and the richness of the data inevitably

meant that some aspects were left out. In these cases recommendations for further

research were suggested.

3.5.6 Ethical considerations

When a researcher enters a social setting, at the initial stage it is not always known

what course the research will take (Hammersley and Atkinson, 1995). Being in actual

classrooms, in the teachers‘ room, in the corridors, meeting children, other teachers and

possibly parents could give a lot of extra information, but a situation may arise when

the researcher gets sensitive information, or finds him/herself not knowing where

his/her loyalties should lie (Benjamin, 2002). In the following part some relevant

ethical considerations are listed, following the ethics of ―Recommendations on Good

Practice in Applied Linguistics‖ (BAAL, 1994), alongside the issues that were raised

while doing the actual research and the actions that were taken.

1. Obtaining informed consent

Only the schools and teachers who volunteered to participate were visited. The heads

and the teachers were informed by a letter, and written permission was given by the

heads and the teachers to visit, record and use the data (see Appendices 3a, 3b and 4).

2. General responsibility to informants (from whom the information is collected)

The rights, interests, sensitivities, and privacy of the informants were respected. As

little as possible disruption to the informants‘ environment was caused, by trying to be

as invisible as possible during the lessons, fitting in with the timetable and the duties

with the teachers as much as possible, for example not trying to ask questions during

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break-times when the teacher was looking after pupils, or just before the start of the

lesson, when she was preparing on the board. It appeared to be very helpful that the

researcher was ―one of the researched‖, herself a primary teacher from the same area.

3. Confidentiality and anonymity

All the data was kept secure, pseudonyms were given to both the schools and the

teachers, helping them to stay anonymous. There was one difficult situation with

Teacher Franciska. During the recording of the first lesson the headmistress

unexpectedly visited the class. The head asked the English teacher to go out of the

room, and after enquiring about the visible microphone, she went on and talked about

some personal problems, relating to another teacher. The machine was not switched off,

so all of the conversation was recorded. The teacher then came back to the classroom

and continued the lesson. Later on, when I listened to the tape and I realised what had

happened, with agreement from the teacher, I deleted the part of the recording

containing the private conversation.

4. Deception and covert research

This was a difficult point, as researching the teachers‘ language use and choice was an

area where there were compelling methodological reasons for the informants not being

fully informed about the precise objectives of the research. If the teachers knew that

their L1 use was observed, this might have influenced the way they spoke. The solution

was not to deceive, but to withhold the specific objective(s). The schools and the

teachers were informed that the researcher was interested in how the teachers were

teaching, what methods they were using. At the very end, during the final interview I

showed my interest in the L1 use and after collecting all the data explained the concrete

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reason for my research. None of the teachers expressed a wish to withdraw from the

research in which they had already agreed to participate.

5. Research involving children

The research was designed only to capture the talk of the teachers. Because the

classrooms were small, and the teaching was very teacher-fronted, analysis of the data

showed that the pupils‘ discourse was also audible. The pupils could not be identified

from their voices so it was decided that the information could be still used.

6. Research involving people from another country

The country where the research was undertaken was my native country. It was decided

to conduct all the interviews in the teachers‘ L1, in order to minimise the possibility of

misunderstandings occurring. This meant that afterwards I needed to translate the

interview data. I also needed to translate the L1 use of the teachers, to be able to present

the data and discussion to non Hungarian speakers. It was essential to avoid any

fabrication, falsification or misrepresentation, so great care was taken to try to represent

the meaning of the participants in English. Sometimes it may not have been possible to

express every nuance of the Hungarian speech. The ambiguous words, intonations,

expressions were treated with care.

3.6 Limitations
The research was conducted in only one district in Budapest and only 4 schools were

visited. The results cannot be generalised, more research would be needed in other

schools in other districts in Budapest, and also in other towns, and villages to see how

the foreign language teaching is. It may be also possible that choosing May, towards

the end of term, as the time for the main data collection influenced the results; other

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times, like the beginning of the year or during the term could have shown a different

teaching style. For example, tests and marks may be more or less important depending

on whether it is the beginning or the end of the school year. Also, towards the end of

the term, teachers may be more relaxed and willing to use materials from other sources

if they have completed the course book. Visiting only Grade 4 classes has shown a

certain result. It is possible that, depending on the age of the pupils, the results would

be different. The evidence for this may be that some teachers did not want me to visit

classes with older students, this probably implying that they were teaching them

differently from the younger ones.

The present study for these reasons did not try to generalise, but tried to explain

some of the features of the teachers‘ talk, L1 use and the possible reasons. More

research is needed to see what happens in other settings, with different age-groups,

levels, to be able to compare the findings with this study, and to build up a bigger, more

general picture.

3.7 Summary
In the methodology chapter first I described the study; then, I presented the findings

from the pilot study and showed how it influenced the design of the main study. I

explained the context of the main study, the methods that were used to collect and to

analyse the data, both quantitatively and qualitatively. Finally the ethical considerations

and the possible limitations of the present study were also highlighted. The next chapter

analyses the collected data quantitatively, and answers the first research question: How

much L1 did the teachers use?

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4. Chapter Four: Four
Quantitative Analysis
Quantitative Analysis

4.1 Introduction
In this chapter the main data collected for this study will be examined and analysed

quantitatively. Two different analyses were carried out. Firstly all the L2 and L1 words

from the 16 recorded lessons were counted, to answer the first research question of how

much L1 was used during the lessons. The results of the word count also allowed the

comparison of the amount of L1 and L2 use between the different levels and the

different participants.

This chapter will also start to answer the second research question of why the

teachers used the L1. To be able to do this, the second analysis, namely the functional

analysis of the teachers‘ L1 utterances, will be carried out. First the different functions

will be identified, their percentage usage compared, and then the difference between the

usages at the two levels of classes will be compared.

Before starting the quantitative analysis it must be pointed out that the sample is

rather small, and any kind of generalization has to be treated with caution. There may

be some other factors influencing classroom discourse and the language choices made

by the teachers. The data from this chapter will not be used to generalize but to provide

some patterns of the observed lessons, and teachers‘ practice. These patterns will help

me to concentrate on some issues later on. One of the purposes of this chapter is

heuristic: to raise questions. These questions will be addressed in Chapter 5. I am

starting with the quantitative analysis.

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4.2 Frequency of L2 and L1 use
A preliminary analysis was conducted using the transcripts of the 16 lessons as the raw

data. All lessons were coded for L1 and L2 words, then using Microsoft Word the

participants were separated and then all the L1 and L2 words of the different

participants counted (see the complete data in Appendix 2). To be able to explain some

of the results I shall also give some examples from the transcripts.

4.2.1 How much L1 is present?

The first research question is: How much L1 (and L2) do the teachers use? In this

chapter I concentrate on the language choices made by the teachers. For this reason first

I show how much the different participants contributed to the amount of L1 and L2 use,

then I group together all the rest of the discourse during the lessons that was not spoken

by the teacher, under a label: Others (O). The result of Others gives every word not

spoken by the teacher alone. The participants under this label can be a single student,

the students together, the students speaking together with the cassette, with the teacher

or the cassette speaking alone.

A single student most often spoke after being nominated, answering a question

from the teacher, or performing something like reading or translating. There were

occasions when the student her/himself initiated a conversation with another student

and asked or said something. There were also opportunities for the students to speak

together. These opportunities were given when either the whole class were asked to

answer or sing together, or when the teacher and a student or more students talked

together. A few times the students had to sing or talk alongside the cassette. In the

analysis they are labelled as Opportunities for Students (Opp Ss) (Macaro, 1998). When

the teacher played the cassette and the students listened to it, this is referred to as

Cassette (C).

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 There was no group or pair-work in these lessons in the L2; even when the

students were asked to read a conversation from the textbook in pairs, or act out a short

story, this was done in front of the teacher and the class. All the opportunities for the

students to use the L2 were closely monitored by the teacher, constantly corrected, with

instant feedback given all the time, in front of the whole class.

During the first trial recording (the first of the three recordings, that were not

transcribed and analysed) a few teachers asked questions or talked straight to the

researcher in the L1. This was discouraged, and so in the subsequent lessons, which

were recorded most teachers tried to ignore the researcher as much as possible, but

occasionally they drew attention to her presence, for example asking if they use ―good

day" in Scotland (Kati 3 turn 151). I was trying to avoid any verbal exchange and either

nodded or quietly said something. These words were usually not audible and I decided

not to include them in the word count of Others.

This first example shows that input may come from other sources, not just from

the teacher.
Example 4.1: Lesson Gizi 1
Original script Translated script
172 C : haha you‘ve got her telephone number haha you‘ve got her telephone
here number here
173 T : Ákos Ákos
174 S : haha you you‘ve ((incorrect haha you you‘ve ((incorrect
pronunciation)) got a telephone number pronunciation)) got a telephone
here number here
175 T : biztos hogy jól olvastad? még egyszer <are you sure you have read it
próbáld meg correctly? try it again!>

Here the sentence is played from a tape (turn 172), and individual pupils need to

repeat it and later translate it. The teacher nominates the students, one at a time. Here

the participants are the cassette, the teacher and a student. The next example shows the

opportunities for the students to use the L2.

Example 4.2: Lesson Piroska 1

Original script
214 T : okay
and now don‘t look at your book

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 look at me look at me
yeah please repeat after me
215 T : South America
216 Ss : South America
217 T : Africa and South America
218 Ss : Africa and South America
219 T : hot wet countries in Africa and South America
220 Ss : hot wet countries in
221 T&Ss : Africa and South America

In this example the teacher instructed the whole class to repeat the words after her.

Sometimes the students alone repeated the words, sometimes the teacher joined in with

them. The students talking together, or talking with the teacher meant that they had

opportunities to speak. The participants in this example were the teacher, the students

together and the teacher and the students together.

Next a look at the results from the word count analysis. The following table

shows the frequency of all the words of the different participants (teacher, student,

opportunity for students and the cassette) during the 16 lessons:

Table 4.1: Percentage of words by Teacher and Others in each lesson

Opportunity
Teacher Student Cassette Row Total
for students

F1 82.1 13.6 4.3 0 100.0

F2 78.1 15.2 6.6 0 100.0
G1 82.3 17.5 0.3 0 100.0
G2 85.7 13.0 1.3 0 100.0
H1 68.5 10.6 20.9 0 100.0
H2 68.0 18.0 10.4 3.6 100.0
K1 77.6 18.0 4.5 0 100.0
K2 75.7 11.0 8.2 5.2 100.0
Mean
77.3 14.6 7.1 1.1
Elementary
K3 47.0 26.7 21.7 4.6 100.0
K4 70.4 29.4 0.3 0 100.0
M1 82.1 10.9 4.9 2.2 100.0
M2 77.1 17.8 0.6 4.5 100.0
P1 74.8 18.8 6.3 0 100.0
P2 74.8 18.5 2.8 5.9 100.0
I1 75.2 23.9 0.9 0 100.0
I2 83.1 16.4 0.4 0 100.0
Mean
73.1 20.3 4.7 1.9
Intermediate
Mean all 75.2 17.5 5.9 1.5

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It is noticeable that the teachers talked much more (average 75%) than any other

participants together, except during Kati 3 lesson, where the amount of words the single

students and students together used (27% and 22%) was just a bit higher than the

amount of words the teacher used (47%). Later it will be shown how this lesson was

different from the rest of the lessons (see page 142). Here the focus is on the frequency

of English and Hungarian words that were used during the lessons.

Table 4.2 shows all the L1 and L2 words spoken by each teacher and by

―Others" during the 16 lessons. It also shows the number of the words (both L1 and L2)

spoken by all (Teacher and Others) during the lessons. The table includes the sub-totals

of both L1 and L2 words, the marginal totals for both the elementary and the

intermediate levels and for the two levels combined. It also gives the number of all

words spoken during the lessons.

Table 4.2: Number of words by Teacher and by Others in L2 and L1 in each lesson
Teacher Others All
Sub Sub
L2 L1 L2 L1 L2 L1 Total
total total
F1 684 2482 3166 344 346 690 1028 2828 3856
F2 1587 2138 3725 477 565 1042 2064 2703 4767
G1 139 2097 2236 196 286 482 335 2383 2718
G2 180 1508 1688 176 105 281 356 1613 1969
H1 1426 268 1694 512 267 779 1938 535 2473
H2 1304 475 1779 744 94 838 2048 569 2617
K1 1525 964 2489 585 134 719 2110 1098 3208
K2 907 1557 2464 673 118 791 1580 1675 3255
Total
7,752 11,489 19,241 3,707 1,915 5,622 11,459 13,404 24,863
Elementary
K3 886 721 1607 1589 226 1815 2475 947 3422
K4 1609 460 2069 818 53 871 2427 513 2940
M1 2093 449 2542 498 58 556 2591 507 3098
M2 1316 535 1851 462 88 550 1778 623 2401
P1 1863 460 2323 608 173 781 2471 633 3104
P2 1958 334 2292 686 87 773 2644 421 3065
I1 1472 1338 2810 611 314 925 2083 1652 3735
I2 2298 1383 3681 481 265 746 2779 1648 4427
Total
13,495 5,680 19,175 5,753 1,264 7,017 19,248 6,944 26,192
Intermediate

Total 21,247 17,169 38,416 9,460 3,179 12,639 30,707 20,348 51,055

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The frequency of the L1 use by the teacher can be calculated in two ways, either as a

proportion of total teacher talk, or a proportion of total lesson talk. If the amount of the

L1 use by the teachers is calculated out of the whole teacher talk, the quantity of the L1

use by the teachers will always be inversely proportional to the quantity of their L2 use.

In other words the more L1 they use the less L2 they use in their overall speech. It is

also possible to calculate the frequency of the L1 use by the teachers out of the whole

lesson talk. In this case the quantity of the L1 use by the teachers will not necessarily be

inversely proportional to the quantity of their L2 use, but it may depend on other

variables too, for example on how much the Others spoke (Macaro, 1998: 149).

4.2.2 The relationship between the different variables

In this study both calculations have been done, to find out the amount of L1 use by the

teachers, out of the whole teacher talk and also out of the whole lesson talk. Firstly I

had a closer look at the proportion of L1 use out of the total words spoken by the

teachers (and Others). Table 14 gives the percentages of all L1 and L2 words used in

each lesson by the teachers and Others and compares them between the two different

levels.

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 Table 4.3: Percentage of words by Teacher, Others & All
in L2 and L1 in each lesson
Teacher Others All
%Sub % Sub
% L2 % L1 % L2 % L1 % L2 % L1 %Total
total total
F1 21.6 78.4 100.0 49.9 50.1 100.0 26.7 73.3 100.0
F2 42.6 57.4 100.0 45.8 54.2 100.0 43.3 56.7 100.0
G1 6.2 93.8 100.0 40.7 59.3 100.0 12.3 87.7 100.0
G2 10.7 89.3 100.0 62.6 37.4 100.0 18.1 81.9 100.0
H1 84.2 15.8 100.0 65.7 34.3 100.0 78.4 21.6 100.0
H2 73.3 26.7 100.0 88.8 11.2 100.0 78.3 21.7 100.0
K1 61.3 38.7 100.0 81.4 18.6 100.0 65.8 34.2 100.0
K2 36.8 63.2 100.0 85.1 14.9 100.0 48.5 51.5 100.0
Mean
42.1 57.9 100.0 65.0 35.0 100.0 46.4 53.6 100.0
Elementary
K3 55.1 44.9 100.0 87.5 12.5 100.0 72.3 27.7 100.0
K4 77.8 22.2 100.0 93.9 6.1 100.0 82.6 17.4 100.0
M1 82.3 17.7 100.0 89.6 10.4 100.0 83.6 16.4 100.0
M2 71.1 28.9 100.0 84.0 16.0 100.0 74.1 25.9 100.0
P1 80.2 19.8 100.0 77.8 22.2 100.0 79.6 20.4 100.0
P2 85.4 14.6 100.0 88.7 11.3 100.0 86.3 13.7 100.0
I1 52.4 47.6 100.0 66.1 33.9 100.0 55.8 44.2 100.0
I2 62.4 37.6 100.0 64.5 35.5 100.0 62.8 37.2 100.0
Mean
70.8 29.2 100.0 81.5 18.5 100.0 74.6 25.4 100.0
Intermediate

Mean All 56.5 43.5 100.0 73.3 26.7 100.0 60.5 39.5 100.0

The following analysis refers to the data from both Table 4.2 and Table 4.3.

Total words of L2 compared to total words of L1

During the 16 lessons 51055 words were spoken. Similar numbers of words were

spoken during the 8 Elementary and the 8 Intermediate lessons, (24863 words

compared to 26192 words), but the distribution of the amount of the mother tongue was

different: 54% L1 were used all together (teacher and ―Others") in the elementary

classes, while 25% L1 in the intermediate classes.

Total words by teacher compared to total words by others

As I have indicated previously, the seven teachers together spoke much more during the

16 lessons (38,416 words) than anybody else all together during all these lessons

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(12,639 words spoken by ―Others"). This result was expected, as all the lessons were

very teacher-fronted.

This was true at both levels. The Elementary teachers said 19,241 words (58%

of them in the L1), compared to 5,622 words by Others (35% of them in the L1). The

Intermediate teachers used 19,175 words (29% L1) compared to 7,017 words by Others

(19% L1)

Total words by teacher in L1 out of all teacher talk, at each level separately

These results were somehow unexpected after the pilot study. The elementary teachers

used much more L1 (58% average) than the intermediate teachers (29% average). In the

Pilot study the results were exactly the opposite, the elementary teachers using less L1

than the intermediate teachers. After the word count analysis, just before moving on to

the functional analysis, in the conclusion, I will come back to this point and try to find

out the reasons for these seemingly contradictory results. The average L1 use of the

seven teachers in the main study was 44% during the 16 lessons, but there was a big

difference between the teachers. Teacher Gizi, with elementary pupils in her first

recorded lesson used almost 94% of L1 (the highest amount), while Teacher Piroska,

with intermediate pupils, in her second lesson only used 15% of L1 (the smallest

amount).

These results have given a good starting point for the quantitative analysis, but

it was also important to estimate the L1 use out of the whole lesson talk to give a

different picture about how much L1 and L2 was used during these lessons.

L1 and L2 use out of the whole lesson time

Table 4.4 shows the number of L1 and L2 words by the teachers and by Others, and

also the total of the words:

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 Table 4.4: Number of words by Teacher and Others in L2 and L1 in each lesson
Teacher Others Total

L2 L1 L2 L1

F1 684 2482 344 346 3,856

F2 1587 2138 477 565 4,767
G1 139 2097 196 286 2,718
G2 180 1508 176 105 1,969
H1 1426 268 512 267 2,473
H2 1304 475 744 94 2,617
K1 1525 964 585 134 3,208
K2 907 1557 673 118 3,255
Total
7,752 11,489 3,707 1,915 24,863
Elementary
K3 886 721 1589 226 3,422
K4 1609 460 818 53 2,940
M1 2093 449 498 58 3,098
M2 1316 535 462 88 2,401
P1 1863 460 608 173 3,104
P2 1958 334 686 87 3,065
I1 1472 1338 611 314 3,735
I2 2298 1383 481 265 4,427
Total
13,495 5,680 5,753 1,264 26,192
Intermediate

Total 21,247 17,169 9,460 3,179 51,055

Table 4.5 gives the percentages of these words, spoken by the teachers and the Others,

out of the total number of words spoken by all speakers in each lesson:

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 Table 4.5: Percentage of words by Teacher and Others in L2 and L1 in each lesson

Teacher Others

L2 % L1 % Sub total % L2 % L1 % Sub total % Total

F1 17.7 64.4 82.1 8.9 9.0 17.9 100.0

F2 33.3 44.9 78.1 10.0 11.9 21.9 100.0
G1 5.1 77.2 82.3 7.2 10.5 17.7 100.0
G2 9.1 76.6 85.7 8.9 5.3 14.2 100.0
H1 57.7 10.8 68.5 20.7 10.8 31.5 100.0
H2 49.8 18.2 68.0 28.4 3.6 32.0 100.0
K1 47.5 30.0 77.6 18.2 4.2 22.4 100.0
K2 27.9 47.8 75.7 20.7 3.6 24.3 100.0
Mean
31.0 46.2 77.3 15.4 7.4 22.8 100.0
Elementary
K3 25.9 21.1 47.0 46.4 6.6 53.0 100.0
K4 54.7 15.6 70.4 27.8 1.8 29.6 100.0
M1 67.6 14.5 82.1 16.1 1.9 18.0 100.0
M2 54.8 22.3 77.1 19.2 3.7 22.9 100.0
P1 60.0 14.8 74.8 19.6 5.6 25.2 100.0
P2 63.9 10.9 74.8 22.4 2.8 25.2 100.0
I1 39.4 35.8 75.2 16.4 8.4 24.8 100.0
I2 51.9 31.2 83.1 10.9 6.0 16.9 100.0

Av I 52.3 20.8 73.1 22.3 4.6 26.9 100.0

Av all 41.6 33.5 75.2 18.9 6.0 24.9 100.0

The results show that an average of 42% TL2 and an average of 34% TL1 were used

during the 16 lessons. The use of the L1 by the teachers contributed to most of the L1

use during the lessons, as Others only used an average of 6% L1 (7% in the elementary

classes and 5% in the intermediate classes).

The elementary teachers, on average, used more L1 (46%), than the

intermediate teachers (21%) out of the whole lesson talk. The elementary teachers also

used more L1 (46%) than L2 (31%), while the intermediate teachers used less L1 (34%)

than L2 (41%) during their lessons.

A possibly important observation can be made here: the same teacher (Teacher

Kati) used less L1 with the intermediate classes (21% and 16%) compared to the

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elementary classes (30% and 48%). This result follows the general pattern of the main

study results.

There was one teacher at each level who did not follow the general pattern

throughout. Teacher Hajni with her elementary classes used only a very small amount

of Hungarian during both of her lessons (11% and 18%), while Teacher Ica, with her

intermediate classes used more Hungarian (36% and 31%) than her colleagues. Teacher

Hajni was in her final year of training to become an English language teacher, and was

encouraged and very keen to use the L2 as much as possible, while Teacher Ica, a very

experienced teacher was teaching verb tenses through translating L2 sentences and

through drill types exercises, requiring and using constant translation.

Another important observation can be made here. Those teachers who used lots

of L1 in the first lesson seemed to continue using lots in the second lesson, while those

who used little seemed to follow the same practice. It is not possible to generalise from

two lessons only, as there may have been other variables that might have also

influenced the results, but I suggest that the teacher herself may be one variable

influencing the amount of L1 use in these classrooms. The teacher‘s proficiency level,

fluency, and beliefs concerning language teaching may all influence their practice in the

classroom (see Chapter Six, page 255, for further discussion).

The next stage is to examine the teacher‘s L1 and L2 use, out of all the words

during the lessons, and see if there is some relationship between them.

Investigating the relationship between the teachers‟ L1 and L2 use out of all words

From Table 4.4 and Table 4.5 (see page 138) it can be seen that the teachers used

different amounts of L1 and L2 during their lessons. The results of the L1 and L2 use

by the teachers are shown on a Scattergram, Figure 4.1.

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 Figure 4.1: Relationship between Teacher L2 and Teacher L1 use out of all words

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Adding the percentages of the L1 and L2 use of the teachers shows it is around the

same amount for most teachers (between 68% and 86%, average 75%), except for the

third lesson from teacher Kati. This teacher only talked 47% of the whole lesson time

(26% in the L2 and 21% in the L1). She also used a cassette and a video to give some

L2 input (4,6%). The individual students had 27% to talk, while for the students the

opportunity to talk together or with her or with the cassette was 22%. This is far more

opportunity than the amount the other teachers gave their students. Teacher Kati is the

teacher who is most popular in the district, and many parents would like her to teach

their children. Those graduating from her classes usually get to the most highly valued

special bilingual (English) selective schools, many of them even manage to pass the

state exam at level B2, independent user (Council of Europe, 2001), at the end of their

primary years, or just shortly after it.

The above analysis has shown that the quantity of the L1 use of the teachers (as

a proportion of lesson time) is not always inversely proportional to the quantity of the

Teachers‘ L2 use (as a proportion of lesson time). There are other variables that can

influence the amount of L1 and L2 use by the teachers, out of the whole lesson time. It

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can also be seen that different teachers used very different amounts of L1 during these

lessons.

4.2.3 Conclusion

Before moving on to the second, the functional analysis, an explanation is needed for

the seemingly contradicting results between the pilot and the main study. The Pilot

study found that the two Elementary teachers used less L1 than the two Intermediate

teachers. The main study has the opposite results; here the elementary teachers, on

average, used more L1 than their colleagues in the intermediate classes.

It seems that the recordings for the pilot study had an influence on the activities

the classes were doing. Although I visited 3 lessons of each teacher and recorded them,

they were not with the same classes (the range was from Grade 3 to 6). Two Grade 4

elementary lessons and two Grade 4 intermediate lessons were selected and compared

after the recordings. The teachers who were teaching those lessons had me in those

classes only once, during the recording, and so the elementary teachers chose activities

that mainly did not require working with unknown written texts. The activities they

used during their lessons were well practised, mostly oral, and they did not need much

help from the teachers, so little L1 was used. It is also worth mentioning here that

Teacher Alíz, whose lesson was analysed in detail in the methodology chapter,

probably used little L1 during her ‗usual‘ lessons either, because she used a different

book, without much L2 text in it. Also, her English was fluent and she appeared self-

confident. The teachers in the intermediate classes during the pilot study, on the other

hand, used much more written L2 texts, probably to show how much the students could

understand, and how well they could read and translate, using the same kind of

activities as they usually did.

The difference between the pilot and the main study was that the main study

followed the classes during three consecutive lessons. It is possible that by visiting one

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and then recording three consecutive lessons the teachers were not free to chose what

activities they did, but they were forced to follow the planned syllabus, and this meant

using the course book with L2 texts, as they usually do. I was told during the visits that

all classes at both levels use textbooks with L2 texts. When there are activities built

around the texts the teachers need to mediate between the text and the students to make

the text comprehensible. It seems that for the Elementary pupils, understanding L2

written texts seems to be more difficult than for the Intermediate students, so on

average they needed more help; this might include the teacher using L1, while the

Intermediate students were more able to do the activities and the tasks after 4 years of

learning the foreign language, so their teachers, on average, did not need to use as much

L1 to help them.

I suggest here that it may certainly be possible to use the L2 exclusively with

young learners, but in practice teachers vary in the extent to which they achieve this

aim. The frequency of use of the L2 seems to depend on a number of factors, including

the activities being used and the level of the learners. It seems that using written texts

makes a big demand on the pupils, and they need scaffolding. Those teachers who are

not confident or trained in using the target language for this may frequently revert to

using the mother tongue for scaffolding. The less advanced the students are, the more

help they may need to decode the text or to do activities based on written texts. Not all

L2 texts pose the same level of demand though, as there can be many factors that

determine the difficulty of working with the written text.

Before discussing the different factors that may influence the language use in

the classroom, I need to do the second quantitative analysis, concerning the functions of

the teachers‘ L1 utterances.

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4.3 Functions of the teachers‟ L1 use

4.3.1 Introduction

For the functional analysis only the use of the language by the teachers was analysed.

Most of the utterances that had L1 words were all in the L1, but there were a few

utterances where the L1 and L2 words were mixed. This usually happened in eliciting,

when the teacher asked for the meaning of the word, for example: Mit jelent a dog

magyarul? (‗What does the word ―dog‖ mean in Hungarian?‘) In the following analysis

I shall use the expression ―utterances in the L1" or ―L1 utterances". This means the

utterances with all or any L1 use in them. I will specifically deal with the mixed L1 and

L2 utterances under the analysis of Eliciting (see page 178).

For the functional analysis all the utterances that contained all or some L1

words were first identified, then categorised into 11 main categories: Translation,

Metalinguistic use, Question, Instruction, Information, Affective response, Teacher

reaction to Student/s L1 use, Metacomment, Marker, Outside the lesson frame and

Cannot be coded (see page 113).

4.3.2 Results

The following tables show the number of utterances at the elementary and in the

intermediate levels, according to the eleven different functions into which they were

categorized.

Table 4.6: Number of L1 utterances for different functions (1)

by the elementary teachers
Franciska Franciska Gizi Gizi Hajni Hajni Kati Kati
All
1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2

Translation 21 22 6 1 8 20 11 23 112
Metalinguistic
1 13 0 0 0 0 0 33 47
use
Question 68 83 86 40 19 8 61 88 453
Instruction 90 98 102 100 21 1 55 74 541
Information 174 157 156 116 32 44 59 85 823
Affective
35 27 14 8 6 4 12 14 120
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Metacomment 14 8 15 14 0 3 0 0 54
Marker 47 28 24 15 3 1 10 25 153
Outside lesson
3 1 28 0 0 0 3 14 49
frame
Cannot be
17 17 8 6 5 2 11 14 80
coded
All 522 527 478 318 113 107 418 256 2,585

Table 4.7: Number of L1 utterances for different functions (2)

by the intermediate teachers
Kati Kati Marika Marika Piroska Piroska Ica Ica
3 4 1 2 1 2 1 2 All

Translation 7 7 2 10 12 14 2 8 62
Metalinguistic
1 6 3 2 1 0 0 14 27
use
Question 32 13 11 23 10 14 32 46 181
Instruction 29 19 20 30 27 16 48 22 211
Information 62 44 32 32 42 25 97 105 439
Affective
15 3 2 10 4 7 25 16 82
response
T‟s reaction
12 2 6 2 0 6 17 1 46
to S's L1
Metacomment 3 1 0 1 0 0 10 2 17
Marker 6 4 7 7 1 2 9 9 45
Outside lesson
4 1 0 0 5 0 10 0 20
frame
Cannot be
18 3 2 2 5 4 19 5 58
coded
All 189 103 85 119 107 88 269 228 1,188

There were 2,585 separate utterances where the L1 was used by the teacher during the 8

elementary lessons, and 1,188 utterances during the 8 intermediate lessons. Comparing

the number of different functions of L1 utterances between the two levels would give a

false result, because there was more than double the number of L1 utterances in the

elementary classes. For this reason the comparison is between the calculations, as a

proportion of all L1 utterances at each level.

The following table shows the percentages of the number of utterances that

were used for different functions, both for the elementary and the intermediate teachers

for comparison.

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 Table 4.8: Percentage and number of all L1 utterances and their functions,
comparing two levels
elementary intermediate
% utterances % utterances
Translation 4.3 112 5.2 62
Metalinguistic use 1.8 47 2.3 27
Question 17.5 453 15.2 181
Instruction 20.9 541 17.8 211
Information 31.8 823 37.0 439
Affective response 4.6 120 6.9 82
Teacher reaction to S's L1 5.9 153 3.9 46
Metacomment 2.1 54 1.4 17
Marker 5.9 153 3.8 45
Outside lesson frame 1.9 49 1.7 20
Cannot be coded 3.1 80 4.9 58
All 100.0 2,585 100.0 1,188

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It has already been noted that the teachers with the elementary classes used more than

double the amount of L1 utterances than those with the intermediate classes. Now it is

noticeable that at both levels, all eleven functions were utilised. The percentage of

utterances using a particular function was higher in the elementary classes than in the

intermediate classes in six out of the eleven functions.

From the chart it can be seen clearly that the main reason for using L1 (at both

levels) was to give information. The second most important reason was to give

instructions, and the third was to ask questions. All of these were communicative

functions.

4.3.3 Conclusion

The functional analysis showed that there were three functions of the teachers‘ L1

utterances that were most often used: for giving information, instruction and for asking

a question. These three categories will be analysed in detail, looking into their different

subcategories, after the following, shorter description and explanation of the least often

used functions of the teachers‘ L1 utterances.

4.4 Analysing the less often used functions

4.4.1 Introduction

I start the analysis with the less often used functions, namely Translation,

Metalinguistic use, Affective responses, Teachers reaction to students L1 use,

Metacomments, Markers, Outside Lesson Frame and Cannot be coded.

4.4.2 Translation

From table 4.6 and 4.7 (and also from the previous chart) it can be seen that the

teachers did not use many L1 utterances to translate from L2 to L1. The elementary

teachers used 4.3% of the L1 utterances for translation (112 occasions), while the

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intermediate teachers used 5.2% (62 times). Most often the teachers translated words or

sentences from texts. They also often said a sentence in the L2 and then repeated it in

the L1.

Example 4.3: Lesson Marika 1

Original script Translated script
200. T : (come) and see me one day (come) and see me one day
gyere és látogass meg nézz nézz meg ez <come and visit me see see me this
nem magyaros gyere és látogass meg oké does not sound good in Hungarian
come and see me okay>

Sometimes it is not possible to identify whether it was written or oral discourse which

was translated. The reason is because it was not always possible to know if the teacher

was reading a word (or a sentence) from somewhere in the text, or was saying it

without actually looking at the text.

Interestingly there was still quite a lot of translation in some of the classes,

although this does not show up here. There is a widely used technique, where the

teacher stays in the L2, but asks the students to translate it into the L1.

Example 4.4: Lesson Marika 1

Original script Translated script
213 T : … read out the sentence … read out the sentence
214. S : dogs are af afraid of horse dogs are af afraid of horse
215. T : of horses is it true? Is it true? Translate it of horses is it true? Is it true? Translate it
Ági translate it Ági translate it
216. S : dogs Dogs
217. T : o translate it into Hungarian o translate it into Hungarian
218. S : kutya a kutyák félnek <dog dogs are afraid>
219. T : félnek <afraid of>
220. S : a lótól <the horse>
221. T : is it true? is it true?

The teacher stays in the L2 (in this example except one word, in turn 219). The

students, on the other hand, are not only allowed but expected to use their L1 and

translate. This can be used very effectively if it gives opportunities for the children to

hear the target language.

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4.4.3 Metalinguistic Use

I consider now the category of Metalinguistic Use. This category accounted for 1.8 per

cent (47 instances) of the L1 utterances in the Elementary classes, compared to 2.3 per

cent (27 instances) in the Intermediate classes.

Five elementary and two intermediate lessons did not have any teacher L1 talk

about the language itself, and only 3 lessons had more than 10 utterances each, dealing

with the language (Franciska 2:13, Kati 2:33 and Ica 2:14). As Teacher Kati did not use

any L1 utterances about the language in her other elementary lesson, it seems that the

activities of the lessons may be one factor determining how much is talked about

grammar, pronunciation or spelling in the L1.

Later on, in the qualitative analysis, the interviews with the teachers suggest that

one of the main priorities for them is to teach the words and the grammar. From the

classroom data it seems that the teachers developed a way of coping with this in the L2,

in a way that they stay in the L2, and allow the students to translate the words into L1

and also to explain the grammar to each other in the L1 (for a detailed discussion see

page 191).

4.4.4 Affective Responses

Both Praising and Disciplining are under the category ―Affective response‖, as well as

the teacher Joking or Apologising (4.6% from the elementary teachers and 6.9% from

the intermediate teachers). Disciplining in the L1 was not very common in most of

these classrooms, except during a few lessons. The highest instances were during

Lesson Franciska 1 (22 instances), and Ica 1 and 2 lessons (16 instances in both

lessons). The rest of the teachers all had fewer than 10 instances; some of them did not

even have one single instance of discipline in the L1 during their lesson (Hajni one,

Kati four, Piroska two). One possible explanation why there was not much disciplining

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can be that the students in these classrooms are expected to sit at their desks during

most, or all, of the lesson (45 minutes), and either pay attention to the teacher speaking,

or they are expected to perform, either verbally, or, very often, they are asked to do

written exercises alone. Interaction amongst the students is minimal, as well as any

movement, or their initiating anything. If a pupil misbehaves, the teacher may give a

look, use a gesture, a verbal warning or written one in the student‘s progress book,

which would have to be taken home that day and a parent would need to sign it for the

next day. The students also get a mark for their behaviour every month, and at the end

of the term the marks are recorded in their report book which they take to secondary

school.

Some teachers praised and encouraged the pupils in the L1, but this was not

done frequently either, ranging between 0 and 8 occasions maximum. During

Franciska‘s second lesson the teacher used 8 L1 utterances for Praise, 8 for

Encouragement, while at the same time she needed to Discipline 10 times. It was

obvious to me sitting there during the lesson that she was struggling to maintain order

in her class. Interestingly she was also the teacher who had the highest number of L1

utterances for the Teacher‘s reaction to student request in the L1 (see the discussion

about this function below).

The conclusion from the above analysis is that the affective responses of the

teachers constituted only a small proportion of their L1 use. In a typical Hungarian

primary classroom, with the teacher being the central figure of the lessons, and in most

classes the students sitting in rows and working alone, the need to reprimand and/or

praise is not as pre-eminent as it may be in classes where there are good management

routines, more movement, more organising and more pair and group work.

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4.4.5 Teachers‟ reaction to students‟ L1 use

As has just been explained, in these classes the teacher was in charge of the

communication most of the time. The Exchanges (typically made up as a sequence of

Initiation – Response – Feedback Moves) were teacher-led. Most of the time the

teacher initiated, the student(s) responded and the teacher gave feedback. This could

have happened in the L1 or the L2, or in a mixed form. Sometimes though, there were

opportunities for the students to initiate in the L1, by asking something, or saying

something to the teacher or to the others. There were 153 occasions (5.9% of all L1

utterances) in total in the elementary classes and only 46 occasions (3.9% of all L1

utterances) in the intermediate classes when the teacher responded to student L1

initiation, showing how few opportunities there were for the students to start any

conversation. As their level of English probably inhibited their ability to initiate a

conversation in English, this may have resulted in their being less actively involved

than they might have been.

The teachers in this study had several different reactions to the L1 utterances of

pupils. They answered questions, gave information, or instruction, or repeated what

they had just said. The following example shows two typical student initiations in the

L1, in turn 120 and 122, followed by the teacher‘s response in the next turn.
Example 4.5: Lesson Franciska 1
Original script Translated script
119. T : igen <yes>
mert most így össze-vissza van ez <because it is a bit mixed up now...>
nekünk …
egy kicsit azt találtam ki hogy ide <a bit, what I worked out is to put it (a
teszem (a posztert) így akkor közelebb poster) here and then it would be closer
lesz hozzátok to you>
120. S : de így mi nem látjuk <but we cannot see it like this>
121. T : hát ti meg úgy nem látjátok, mm <well the other way you cannot see it,
hm>
Piri csak addig üljetek ide <Piri sit down until then>
oda a Piri oda meg a Mátyás <Piri there Mátyás there>
jó <good>
122. S : és akkor ide üljön a Mátyás <and then Mátyás should sit here>
123 T : inkább oda üljön a Mátyás jó? <I would prefer Mátyás sitting there,
okay?>

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The student told the teacher that she or he could not see the poster. A student also

requested a student to sit somewhere else. These all happened during the planning and

organising phase of the activity. The teacher used the L1 exclusively, and this seemed

to allow the students to initiate, and to do this in their mother tongue. In both of her

lessons Teacher Franciska and in her first lesson Teacher Gizi had the highest number

of teacher L1 utterances responding to the students‘ L1 initiations (52, 34, and 26

instances). They also used the highest amount of L1 during these lessons. The rest of

the lessons had fewer than 20 instances each; some of them had not even one instance

(Piroska 1).

There may be several different reasons why during some lessons the students

seemed to be freer to use the L1 than in others. During those lessons where the teachers

use the L2 extensively, any L1 use from the students without the teacher initiating

could be labelled as misbehaving and could have consequences. As the students can not

easily initiate conversations in the L2, they probably chose to be silent so they do not

get into trouble, for interrupting, and at the same time doing it in the L1. On the other

hand, where the L2 use is not so strictly expected, or not expected at all, the students

may feel freer to interrupt and initiate more conversations in the L1. This may not be

always the case though; a very strict teacher could request total silence, with or without

any L1 use. Another important factor can be the level of the students, as the elementary

students might have needed more help; maybe they were more often confused and so

they were allowed to use the L1 more.

4.4.6 Metacomments

The results show that the elementary teachers used more metacomments (54) than the

intermediate ones (17). By looking at the individual use it can be seen that although the

2 elementary teachers (Franciska and Gizi) used most L1 utterances for talking to

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themselves aloud (between 15 and 8 utterances in their 4 lessons, and most intermediate

teachers used hardly any at all (between 0 and 3), there were some exceptions.

Intermediate Teacher Ica in her first lesson used 10, while Hajni in her first lesson and

Kati in both her elementary lessons did not use any at all.

How much a teacher talks to herself aloud during the lessons may depend on

many factors. It can be simply a personal style, and so maybe teachers Franciska and

Gizi would talk to themselves frequently during other lessons too (they teach other

subjects in their mother tongue). There could be other factors also, influencing how

many metacomments the teachers use. For example Teacher Franciska, in the first

lesson, in turn 17, the teacher was organising the next activity. She was talking about

the topic they would work with, which was the ‗there is, there are‘ grammar structure.

As she was trying to find the poster to show to the students she said: nem is tom hova

raktam azt a plakátot (‗I am not sure where I have put that poster‘). She was talking to

herself about a problem she was trying to solve, namely to find the poster.

Maybe if there are unexpected events, for example something goes wrong, or

something needs to be thought through, other teachers who do not usually think aloud

during their lessons, would use metacomments then. This may be the reason why

Teacher Ica in her first lesson used lots of metacomments (10 utterances). Other times

though, when the activities are more routine, where not a lot of organising is needed or

nothing goes wrong, there is no or hardly any L1 metacomment (like Teacher Ica‘s

second lesson, using only 2 utterances).

It is possible to hypothesize that using L1 metacomments frequently may be an

indication that those teachers did not mind that their pupils could hear them ‗thinking

aloud‘ in the L1. If this assumption is true, this has certain implications. It could be that

those teachers who use L1 metacomments a lot may not be as determined to use the L2

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as much as possible as those teachers who do not comment on their teaching in their

mother tongue. Other possible explanations include the proficiency of the teacher, as

they may not be thinking in the L2, the style of their teaching, and the amount they talk.

Maybe it depends on what the teacher believes about whether hearing more English

provides more opportunities to learn the language. This point will be considered further

in Chapter Six, page 255.

4.4.7 Markers

To signal the boundaries between episodes or activities in FL classrooms the teachers

can use different discourse strategies. The teacher can switch from one language to the

other. If the teacher for example first explains in the L1 that the aim of the activity is to

read the L2 sentence after her, and then switches to a L2 word, this in itself signals that

the explanation is over, and the activity is starting:

Example 4.6: Lesson Kati 1

Original script Translated script
274 T : …olvassuk el közösen őket <…let us read them together>
The book is on the table. The book is on the table.
275 Ss : The book is on the table. The book is on the table.

This example shows that without a specific discourse marker the two activities are

clearly separated by the two different languages. The boundaries of the discourse can

also be signalled by L2 words, for example ‗well‘, ‗now‘, ‗good‘, or the teachers can

use the equivalent of L1 (‗nos‘, ‗most‘, ‗jó‘). In Chapter 3 (see page 104) I mentioned

the problem with the word ‗okay‘. Because of the widespread use of ‗okay‘ in the

Hungarian language, markers of ‗okay‘ could be either in the L1 or the L2. The

intonation can be a clue in some cases, but other clues are also needed in many cases to

determine which language is being used.

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 Teachers Franciska, Gizi and Kati used L1 markers most often, with Teacher

Franciska using an exceptionally high number of L1 markers (47 in her first recorded

lesson and 28 in her second). Teacher Gizi had 24 and 15, while Teacher Kati used 10

and 25 markers in her two Elementary lessons. None of the Intermediate teachers, plus

the Elementary Teacher Hajni, used more than 10 markers

Example 4.7 shows how Teacher Franciska used the markers. (The \ sign

signals falling intonation and a short pause after the word/s).

Example 4.7: Lesson Franciska 1

Original script Translated script
164. T : igen <yes>
egy furcsa furcsa erdőben egy egy furcsa <In a strange strange forest a a strange
furcsa i igen sötét sötét nem furcsa sötét strange yes strange dark dark not strange
sötét erdőben dark dark forest>
igen \ (1.0) jó \ <yes \ (1.0) good \>
na nézzük a következő versszakot <Well let‟s see the next verse>
fusd át a szemeddel melyik szót szeretnéd <scan it with your eyes which word you
meg ö ő want er er >
Józsikám menjél innen ki légyszives <my Józsi go out of here please>
üljél ott kint le <sit down outside there>
jó \ <good \>
sajnos nem tudunk tőled tanitani <unfortunately we cannot teach because of
you>
ne haragudjál (3.0) <I am sorry> (3.0)
elnevezzük őt az osztályszörnyének <we call him the monster of the class>
((laughter)) ((laughter))
mert nem lehet tőle tanitani <because one cannot teach because of
him>
((laughter)) ((laughter))

The first word ‗yes‘ is feedback; the student remembered a poem she or he had learned

before, and the teacher acknowledges it. She then tries to remember the words of the

poem. The next ‗yes, good‘ is a marker, with falling intonation and a pause between the

two words, signalling that she is not continuing to talk about the old poem, but she is

getting back to the present activity. The instruction cannot be completed, as a

misbehaving student needs the teacher‘s attention. He is promptly sent outside, and

when the class is supposedly all in order again, another marker, ‗good‘ signals the end

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of disciplining and the start of an explanation of what has just happened (see Chapter

Six, page 255, for further discussion on this bad practice).

It seems that when there is a long interchange, all or mainly in the L1, where the

teacher is dealing with more than one different topic, L1 discourse markers can be used

to mark off one episode from another. These are usually L1 markers, as the teacher

would not normally change back to the L2 to borrow the marker. Those elementary

teachers who talked extensively, and used only, or mostly the L1 in their extended

turns, are the ones who used L1 markers most often. The intermediate teachers, on the

other hand, used far fewer L1 markers on average, between 1 and 9 words per lesson.

One possible explanation may be that the intermediate teachers usually used fewer long

turns with only L1 in them. When they did use a long turn they used both L1 and L2

utterances. It may be that the signal of the change of the discourse is the change of the

language itself.

Elementary Teacher Hajni, who hardly used any L1 markers (1 and 3) during

her lessons, was an exception. Among the Elementary teachers, she used the L1 least.

She tried to use the L2 as much as possible, with added body language, or pictures or

writings on the board. When she did use the L1, mostly to give information or

instruction or ask a question, she tried to keep the length of the L1 utterance to a

minimum. This may explain why she did not often need a L1 marker.

The use of markers and the frequency of their use may also depend on the

personal style of the teachers. It is clear from the data that different teachers preferred

different L1 words as markers, some using ‗okay‘, others ‗yes‘ or ‗right‘. The variables

that are identified in my data are the personal style of the teachers, the amount of L1

use in the turn, and the level of the learners.

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4.4.8 Outside lesson frame

Sometimes the teachers were either interrupted or were talking to me. This did not

happen very often, (between 0 and 3 times), except in three lessons: Gizi 1 (28 times),

Kati 1 (14 times), Ica 1 (10 times). One of the reasons for these high numbers are that

those teachers sometimes tried to include me, or made comments on the happenings in

the classrooms to me. Teacher Gizi particularly found it difficult not to comment on

things, while the students were working on an exercise quietly and she went around

checking, passing me sitting at the back of the classroom. Teacher Ica was struggling

with the tape recorder a bit, and asked me several times if she could switch it off while

the students were working. Teacher Kati, in her first recorded lesson also asked a few

times for my opinion about life in Britain, or about the school system, while she was

discussing the topic with her pupils. My reaction to these instances was always to try to

signal again and again, that I was just ―not there". But these instances showed me

clearly that the moment somebody is observing the class, it has an effect. It is possible

to try to minimise the effect by talking about the most likely problems before, and then,

if the teacher still forgets, the only way is to try to say as little as possible.

There were some other instances, when other students, or a teacher, came in and

talked to the teacher or the class. These instances would happen in real, unobserved

classes too, and added to the picture of the real life in these classrooms. The fact that all

the foreign language teachers switched to the L1 at once to talk to anybody else,

showed that the L2 was used only and exclusively during the language lessons with the

pupils.

4.4.9 Cannot be coded

There were some L1 utterances that were not possible to code. There were not many of

these, less than 20 instances, between 2-17 times during the lessons. These utterances

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were usually surrounded by utterances that were unintelligible, or some of them were

lacking other clues, not available without actually seeing what was happening at the

given points. Given the vast amount of data (hundreds of utterances) this did not seem

to affect the result much.

4.5 Analysing the most often used functions

4.5.1 Introduction

After dealing with the less frequent functions, I am now going to look in detail at the

three most frequently used functions of the teachers‘ L1 use: Giving-Information,

Instruction and Question. The different teachers used different amounts of these

functions during their lessons, but all the teachers were using the three categories

Information, Instruction and Questioning very frequently (see page 145).

The following two tables show the number of L1 utterances the teachers used

for giving information, giving instruction and asking questions. The sub-categories of

these functions are also shown (see the explanation of the categories and sub-categories

in Chapter 3, page 113).

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 Table 4.9: Number and percentage of L1 utterances of 3 functions
and sub-categories in Elementary lessons 1 and 2
Franciska 1+2 Gizi 1+2 Hajni 1+2 Kati 1+2
utterance % utterance % utterance % utterance %
Information
Feedback 188 56.8 160 58.8 50 65.8 78 54.2
Inside plane
91 27.5 84 30.9 25 32.9 45 31.3
shift
Outside plane
52 15.7 28 10.3 1 1.3 21 14.6
shift
All 331 100.0 272 100.0 76 100.0 144 100.0

Instruction
Now 180 95.7 192 95.0 22 100 125 96.9
Later 8 4.3 10 5.0 0 0.0 4 3.1
All 188 100.0 202 100.0 22 100.0 129 100.0

Question
Information
57 37.7 43 34.1 6 22.2 43 28.9
question
Eliciting 94 62.3 83 65.9 21 77.8 106 71.1
All 151 100.0 126 100.0 27 100.0 129 100.0

Table 4.10: Number of L1 utterances of 3 functions

and sub-categories in Intermediate lessons 1 and 2
Kati 3+4 Marika 1+2 Piroska 1+2 Ica 1+2
utterance % utterance % utterance % utterance %
Information
Feedback 50 47.2 26 40.6 31 46.3 112 55.4
Inside plane 27.4 23.4 34.3 33.7
29 15 23 68
shift
Outside plane 25.5 35.9 19.4 5.9
27 23 13 12
shift
All 106 100.0 64 100.0 67 100.0 202 100.0

Instruction
Now 44 91.7 38 76.0 39 90.7 61 87.1
Later 4 8.3 12 24.0 4 9.3 9 12.9
All 48 100.0 50 100.0 43 100.0 70 100.0

Question
Information 26.7 65.1 45.8 33.3
12 28 11 26
question
Eliciting 33 73.3 6 17.6 17 70.8 52 66.7
All 45 100.0 34 100.0 24 100.0 78 100.0

The data from these two tables will be used throughout the rest of the chapter. To make

comparisons easier, some of the results will be shown in a graph form, but all

discussions will be based on these results. It can be seen from the two tables above that

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the elementary teachers together used more utterances for each of the three most used

functions than the intermediate teachers. The comparisons will be made between the

percentage of the different functions and sub-functions. Now I will look closely at the

three most often used different functions and their sub-functions.

4.5.2 Information-Giving

The elementary teachers had 823 utterances that were in the L1, or contained L1 words,

to give information, while the intermediate teachers used 439 L1 utterances for the

same function.

The category of Information-Giving consists of 3 sub-categories: Feedback, Inside

Plane Shift and Outside Plane Shift. The distinction between the 3 sub-categories is as

follows:

 Feedback is the third part of the IRF sequence, when the teacher informs the

student/s on how correct their verbal or written responses were. The feedback

can be a short word (‗good‘, ‗well done‘), or longer stretches of discourse,

explaining why the answer was correct or incorrect.

 Inside Plane Shift refers to those utterances where the teacher is providing

further contextual information to help the students with the task they are doing

(Macaro, 1998: 188).

 Outside Plane Shift, on the other hand, refers to those utterances that are not

immediately related to the here and now activity. They indicate a shift in the

focus of attention to a topic outside the immediate context of the lesson (see

Sinclair and Brazil, 1982: 32; Macaro, 1998: 187).

Those teachers who were very keen to use the L2, namely Teacher Hajni from the

elementary and P from the intermediate classes, used very few L1 utterances during

their lessons, compared to the rest of their colleagues, but what they did use L1 for, was

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for Information-Giving, 32 and 44 times and 42 and 25 times. This may signal that in

these classes it was necessary to give some information in the L1.

The following graph shows the distributions of the percentages of the

Information-Giving L1 utterances and their sub-categories for each teacher.

Figure 4.3: Distribution of percentages of different Information-Giving utterances

comparing the two levels

Information Giving (2 lessons/teacher)

70.0%

60.0%

50.0%
Utterances (%)

40.0% Feedback
Ins. plane shift
30.0% Outs. plane shift

20.0%

10.0%

0.0%
F1+2 G1+2 H1+2 K1+2 I1+2
K3+4 M1+2 P1+2 Y1+2

Elementary Intermediate

The graph shows that the most frequent sub-category of Information-Giving was

Feedback. The second highest was Inside Plane Shift, except in Teacher Marika‘s two

lessons, where she had a few more Outside Plane Shifts utterances. The smallest

amount out of the three sub-categories was Outside Plane Shift. I now have a closer

look at each of the three categories separately.

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Feedback

The elementary teachers used considerably more L1 utterances for Feedback than the

intermediate ones. The following 2 examples show typical ways for teachers to give

feedback in the L1.

In Example 4.8 the task was to describe a pupil. Ákos is the student who said

the first sentence about Pisti. The sentence is in the L2 (―He has got a brown head‖) and

the teacher repeats the answer in turn 108, before giving feedback (by repeating the L2

sentence correctly) and then acknowledging in the L1 that it was correct (turn 108). The

same happens in turn 112; after repeating the answer, the L1 feedback is ―That‘s right‖.

Example 4.8: Lesson Gizi 2

Original script Translated script
104. T : … Pisti kijön ide középre (1.0) …<Pisti comes to the middle> (1.0)
és Pistiről mindenki mond egy <and everybody tells a sentence about
mondatot angolul (1.0)… Pisti in English> (1.0)…
Ákos kezdjed < Ákos you start it>
105. S : mm mm
106. T : he has he has
ugye így kezdjük <this is how we start, right?>
he has he has
107. S : he has got a (4.0) brown head he has got a (4.0) brown head
108. T : brown head he has got brown head brown head he has got brown head
végül is jó igen <well, yes it is good>
Brigi Brigi
109. S : he has got he has got a black hair he has got he has got a black hair
110. T : hair he has got black hair mm hair he has got black hair mm
Szandra Szandra
111. S : he has got big (1.0) eyes he has got big (1.0) eyes
112. T : eyes he has got big eyes eyes he has got big eyes
így van <that‟s right>

Here is another typical example; this time the task is to translate a text.

Example 4.9: Lesson Ica 2

Original script Translated script
113 T … the greedy dog jumped into the … the greedy dog jumped into the water
:
water with a big splash with a big splash
114. S : beugrott a <jumped into the>
115. T : vízbe^ <water^>
116. S : vízbe és egy nagyot csobbant < the water and with a big splash>
117. T : csobbant <splashed>
így van <that‟s right>

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In turn 117 the teacher first repeats the student‘s translation in the L1, then she says

―That‘s right". When the task was to translate from the L2 into the L1, teachers often

echoed the pupil‘s L1 translation, adding considerably to their total of L1 utterances.

The third example shows when the feedback is a correction of the answer. In

this case the student gave an answer in the L2. The teacher first repeats the answer

correctly without the word ‗so‘, and then explains in the L1 what the mistake was.

Example 4.10: Lesson Ica 2

Original script Translated script
179. S : because he ran away so fast ((reading because he ran away so fast ((reading
the answer)) the answer))
180. T : because he ran away fast because he ran away fast
a ‗so‘ az nem kell csak ‗he ran away <the> „so‘ < is not needed only > „ran
fast‘ away fast‘
okay okay

Of the elementary teachers, teachers Franciska and Gizi used Feedback more frequently

in their L1 utterances than the other teachers in their L1 utterances. These teachers did

not make much use of written L2 text during the lessons. They asked the students to

perform oral tasks, and the feedback and correction was often used after the pupils‘

verbal attempts. The intermediate teachers used less L1 feedback than their elementary

colleagues, except Teacher Ica. During her two lessons the pupils mainly worked with

texts, translating and analysing them, focusing on the grammar form of the past tense

and the irregular verbs. Teacher Ica constantly corrected and explained the students‘ L1

answers, using Feedback in her L1 utterances very frequently (62 and 55 utterances).

It is clear from the previous examples that the different activities require

different ways of giving feedback. If the task is to read and translate a text, the teacher

may repeat the L1 translation. If the task is more complex, like making up a sentence in

the L2, the teacher may need to explain some of the mistakes and the grammar in the

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L1. If the L2 sentence or sentences are correct, the teacher may only say ―yes, good‖ or

―that‘s right‖ in the L1 to encourage the student, or even add a bit of extra information.

Inside Plane Shift

The second most often used sub category under Information-Giving is the Inside Plane

Shift. This category is closely related to the tasks, and its function is mainly to help the

pupils to perform them. It is help from the teacher, namely ‗scaffolding‘ (see page 16),

that is needed. On average, each teacher used half the amount of Inside Plane Shift than

they used for Feedback. Those elementary teachers who often used the L1 used lots of

scaffolding in the L1 to help their students through the activities. Teacher Ica with her

intermediate class also used L1 utterances to help with the difficulty of formatting past

tenses and irregular verbs. The more demanding and complex the activity was, the more

help the students needed during the activity. Although helping in the L2 is possible, the

teacher needs to know how to use methods of helping comprehension, for example,

paraphrasing, repetition, body language, visual clues, pictures, and so on. The following

example shows an activity where the teacher who usually managed to stay in the L2

used L1 to help during the activity.

Example 4.11: Lesson Hajni 1

Original script Translated script
81. T : cs, nahát válasszál valamelyiket <sh, well chose one>
tessék <here you are>
green car green car
82. S : have you got a green car? have you gat a green car?
83. S : green car? Yes I yes I have yes I have green car? Yes I yes I have yes I have
84. T : hm Hm
85. S : mm Mm
86. T : most megnézed ugye a ‗green car‘ <now look at right the> „green car‘
kettő van <there are two>
melyikből választod <from which do you choose it>
vagy ezt mondod tovább vagy ezt <either go on with this or that>
87. S : have you got a black (xxxx?) have you got a black (xxxx?)
88. S : no I no I haven‘t no I no I haven‘t
89. T : mhm Mhm
90. S : have you got a blue (xxxx?) have you got a blue (xxxx?)
91. S : no I haven‘t no I haven‘t

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 92. T : ha itt már ez nem volt akkor ugye <if here there was not one then not
nem ebbe nem here not>
(xxxx) tovább (xxxx) <go on>
akkor keressük a másik sort < then let‟s find the other line>

Two pupils, in front of the class, had to look at two different pictures and try to find out

which objects appeared in both pictures, without looking at each other‘s picture.

At first the pupils did not seem to know how to solve the problem. The whole

class was watching them, so the teacher probably felt the need to explain, for

everybody‘s benefit. The task was a rather difficult one; even in their mother tongue

pupils at this age might have struggled to get the idea of how to do it. Because they

could not use their mother tongue, there was not a chance to try different techniques

and see if it worked. The language difficulty added to the overall difficulty, so the

teacher was helping out, in the L1, using a mixture or questions, information and

instructions.

The following example is from the intermediate teacher Piroska. Here the pupils

are looking at a crossword puzzle, trying to find the months in the L2.

Example 4.12: Lesson Piroska 2

Original script Translated script
250 T : ... take a pencil please and try to find the ... take a pencil please and try to find the
months try to find the month circle them months try to find the month circle them
circle them okay circle them okay
haladjunk együtt jó? <let‟s proceed together, okay?>
s ha valaki talált egy hónapot azt akkor <and if somebody finds a month that
mondja hogy hol? person should say where it is?>
251 S : January alulról a hatodik January <sixth from the bottom>
252 T : where is it? (3.0) where is it? (3.0)
közép alulról hat középen vizszintesen <middle from bottom six in the middle
horizontal>
így mondjuk jó vizszintes vagy <this is how we say it horizontal or
függőleges vertical>
253 S : December vizszintes második sorban <December horizontal second line>
254 T : December very good, Ilike December very good, Ilike
Vizszintes <horizontal>
Sárika Sárika
255 S : függőlegesen az első sor September <vertical first line> September
256 T : September very good, Laura September very good, Laura

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Here again, it can be seen that the pupils need help. They can find the names of the

months in the word search, especially because the words are similar to the Hungarian

ones, only pronounced differently. The problem here is how to identify the place of the

word. This is not a L1 problem, but even in their mother tongue these pupils may not

know the two words ‗horizontal‘ and ‗vertical‘ or may not have used them a lot. So the

teacher (in turn 252) is helping them to express themselves in their mother tongue.

One of the big differences between this study and most other studies on

teachers‘ L1 use is the age of the students. Because these pupils are very young, they

are still learning their mother tongue at the same time as they are learning the foreign

language. Their English teacher is often their Hungarian teacher too, who knows their

vocabulary, and their grasp of grammar. It is possible in these classes that the same

teacher through teaching one language may be simultaneously teaching the other

language.

The first instruction about what to do, in turn 250, is completely in the L1. Then

the teacher switches languages to explain that they would do it together. The following

exchanges use both the L2 and the L1. This is one of the characteristics of those

classrooms, where the teachers attempt to use the L2; they still often allow the pupils to

use the L1, here in this example resulting in an almost continuous code switching. In

turn 253 the pupil tells where s/he found the month: ―December horizontal second

line‖, in Hungarian. The teacher responds in turn 254 with an English sentence,

―December very good‖, pronouncing the month in the English way. Then she repeats

the difficult word ―horizontal‖ in Hungarian, before nominating a new pupil. The pupils

need to pay very close attention to what the teacher says to judge correctly which

language they need to use at every moment.

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 Often the teachers had to tell the students explicitly which language to use. The

following three examples show how the teachers had to specify which language is to be

used. These examples are not Inside Plane Shifts, but Instructions, which would be

discussed later on in detail (see page 172).

Example 4.13: Lesson Gizi 1

Original script Translated script
381 T : írjátok fel negyvenkettedik oldal <write down page forty-two exercise
hármas feladat fordítani a füzetbe three translate the sentences>
és mielőtt megkérdeznétek magyarra <and before you ask me translate into
kell fordítani Hungarian>
mer el szokott hangzani az a <because this tends to be the next
következő kérdés és … question and>…

Other times the student even needed to ask which language was required, before being

able to complete the required exercise:

Example 4.14: Lesson Franciska 1

Original script Translated script
21 T : …most jó na mindenki összeszedi … <now good everybody concentrates
minden okos gyerek összeszedi a all clever children concentrate and look
gondolatait jól megnézi a képet és at the picture and we try to say
megpróbálunk mondani sentences about the picture>
mondatokat a képről
jó na mondjad <good now you start>
22. S : there is there is
23. T : mutatom <I am showing it>
24. S : magyarul is lehet? <Can I say it in Hungarian?>
25. T : magyarul nem <not in Hungarian>

Example 4.15: Lesson Franciska 2

Original script Translated script
22 T : csak úgy ismétlésképen miről szólt az <just to practise what was the first the
első második versszak? second verse about?>
csak magyarul nagyjából <only in Hungarian, roughly>
23. S : magyarul mondjam? <shall I say it in Hungarian?>
24. T : csak magyarul igen <yes, only in Hungarian>
25. S : a különös különös város nem a „land‘ <the strange strange town not the>
az a „land‘ <that is a>

Example 4.16: Lesson Marika 1

Original script Translated script
97. T : okay no let‘s start Piri okay no let‘s start Piri
98. S : magyarul is el kell olvasni? <shall I read it in Hungarian too?>
99. T : nem kell magyarul elismételni <no need to repeat it in Hungarian
olvasd a mondatokat read the sentences>

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During the lessons there were also instances when the students got confused. The

teacher then told them to say it in the other language, and so order is established again:

Example 4.17: Lesson Hajni 1

Original script Translated script
307. T : jó az jó (12.0) <good that‟s right> (12.0)
jó ezt kérem kérem jó <good that please please good>
…long arms three small feet one two it …long arms three small feet one two it
isn‘t good because it‘s too feet mhm er isn‘t good because it‘s too feet mhm er
what‘s wrong? in this picture? what‘s wrong? in this picture?
308. S : két fej <two heads>
309. T : yes it‘s er English please yes it‘s er English please
310. S : two two heads two two heads

These previous examples demonstrate that communication in these foreign language

classes can be a very complex and difficult task, both for the teacher and the students.

Using only the L2 during these lessons can be very difficult and challenging for

teachers who are not familiar with the methods of communicative language teaching.

But using the mixture of the L1 and L2 can be just as challenging in some cases. Now I

investigate the third sub-category of Information-Giving: the Outside Plane Shift.

Outside Plane Shift

In this category are all the teachers‘ L1 utterances which give information about

something from the past or about the future, not connected to the here and now tasks

the pupils are facing. During the 16 lessons there were between 0 and 30 occasions

(average 11 occasions) when the teacher talked about things not closely related to the

present activities. These included instances when the teachers reminded their students

of the previous lessons, what they did and learned, a word or a poem, about the

teacher‘s diary, report books, previous activities, behaviour or performance during the

previous lesson or lessons.

About the future, there were just a few things mentioned; for example, when the

teacher‘s diary was not there the teacher said that once they had it she would write the

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marks into it. Another time the same teacher promised to talk about a problem later on.

She also wanted to talk to the class teacher about the bad behaviour of the class, and

about possible bad marks, and warnings. Some teachers also mentioned a test, or a

written exercise for the following lesson, or that they did not have time to do

something, so they might do it later on.

Some of the teachers also told the pupils some stories about themselves, or gave

information about the world, not concretely related to the lesson, but adding extra

information, or just something interesting, usually triggered by something in the lesson.

The following two examples give insight into this category. The first example shows

Teacher Marika talking about her pets:

Example 4.18: Lesson Marika 1

Original script Translated script
235 T : yes yes is er is it true? (that mice are yes yes is er is it true? (that mice are
. afraid of hamsters?) afraid of hamsters?)
egyszer volt egy ő terrárium há nem <once I had a terrarium well not but a
is egy üvegbe tartottam hörcsögöket glass and I had hamsters in it and mice
meg egereket és ő valahogy too and er somehow they got together
összekerültek és képzeljétek el a and imagine the hamster bit off the tail
hörcsög az leharapta az egérnek a of the mouse
farkát
úgyhogy olyan túl nagy barátságba so they are not really friendly they do
nincsenek meg annyira nem nagyon not like each other very much and do
szeretik egymást hát most hogy ki not love each other that much so to tell
kitől fél szerintem miután az egér az who likes who well as the mouse is
kisebb mint egy hörcsög valószínűleg smaller than the hamster I think it is the
ő fél a hörcsögtől úgyhogy one to be afraid of the other so let us
maradjunk ebben agree on this>
okay? okay?
236 T&S : mice^ mice^
237 S : are afraid of are afraid of
238 T : of^ of^
239 S : hamsters hamsters
240 T : hamsters okay write it down write it hamsters okay write it down write it
down hamsters hörcsög okay write it down hamsters <hamster> okay write
down it down

The teacher in this example is explaining her experience about how hamsters and mice

do not get on well with each other. Although it would be possible to explain this story

in the L2, it might have taken much longer. The activity was to say sentences about

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which animal is afraid of which, practising the form ‗afraid of‘. The immediate aim is

for the students to be able to say and write down the sentence ―Mice are afraid of

hamsters‖. This little story personalises the sentence and may help the students to

remember more easily later on. The following example shows the teacher giving

general information about one of the countries they are studying.

Example 4.19: Lesson Kati 1

Original script Translated script
98. T : … hogy hívják? … <what is it called?>
99. Ss : Canberra Canberra
100. T : nem az a legnagyobb városa <that is not the biggest town>
Sydney és ott volt az olimpia és híres <Sydney and the Olympic Games
és minden were there and it is famous and all>
de a Canberra a capital city <but Canberra is the> capital city
yes it‘s Canberra that‘s fine open your yes it‘s Canberra that‘s fine open your
books please books please

The young children in these classrooms are still learning about the world around them,

and their teachers may give extra information if they think it is necessary. Talking

about the Olympic Games may arouse the interest of the students and this again may be

a useful aid for them to remember the capital and the biggest city of Australia. Using

the L1 to explain the difference makes it easier and the teacher can also be sure that the

students correctly understand the facts.

I have discussed different kinds of information that the teachers gave during

their lessons. The information may provide instant feedback or help about the task, or

give more general information. The feature they had in common was that they did not

require any action from the students other than listening.

Now I consider the second most often used function: Instruction-Giving. In

contrast to giving information, in this category we have those L1 utterances that require

action, either at once, or later on, from the pupils.

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4.5.3 Instruction-Giving

The elementary teachers had 541 L1 utterances to give instruction, while the

intermediate teachers used 211 L1 utterances for the same function. The category of

Instruction-Giving consists of 2 sub-categories: Instructions to perform an action now

and Instructions to perform an action later. The following graph shows the distribution

of the percentages of these sub-categories for each teacher‘s Instruction-Giving.

Figure 4.4 Distribution of percentages of different Instruction-Giving utterances

comparing the two levels

Instruction (two lessons/teacher)

120.0%

100.0%

80.0%
Utterances (%)

Now
60.0%
Later

40.0%

20.0%

0.0%
F1+2 G1+2 H1+2 K1+2 K3+4 M1+2 P1+2 I1+2
Y1+2

Elementary Intermediate

It can be seen from the graph that every teacher used more instruction for now than

about doing something later on.

Instructions for later

Teacher Hajni was the only one who did not give any instructions for later; the rest of

the teachers used rather similar amounts of utterances, between 0 and 12 utterances, an

average of 6 utterances per two lessons. In the typical Hungarian primary classroom,

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written or oral homework is often given at the end of the lesson, and the pupils are

required to write down the homework in their homework jotter. The teachers can be

brief, making sure that all know what the homework is:

Example 4.20: Lesson Piroska 1

Original script Translated script
414. T : ….ezt kérem szépen otthon betanulni … <please memorise this nicely by heart
at home>
tehát <so>
please learn the content of the text please learn the context of the text
tehát az olvasmány tartalma <well the content of the text
aki nem tudja az tanulja be szó szerint if you cannot do it then learn it word by
word>
thank you okay thank you okay

The teacher may need to repeat the page number of the exercise to make sure that

everybody writes it down correctly, but otherwise there is no need to talk a lot.

Example 4.21: Lesson Kati 3

Original script Translated script
225 T : … a a házifeladatotok lesz kettő … < the the homework will be two
feladatot nem csináltunk meg arról a exercisess: we have not done two
lapról amit fénymásoltam nektek aa ő exercises from the paper I had
hatost és a nyolcast photocopied for you, exercise six and
eight>
az lesz a házifeladatotok <that will be your homework>
szintén ilyen összefoglaló dolog (2.0) <it is a kind of summary thing> (2.0)
hatos és nyolcas mindenki hozza a <exercise six and eight and everybody
lapot természetesen bring the paper of course>
és az egész fejezetet kérdezem… <and I also will ask for the whole
chapter (to be learned)…

The homework was always given either exclusively in the L1, or repeated in the L1.

Even those teachers who used least L1 did not risk using only the L2 for this function.

One of the reasons can be that the pupils are supposed to write the homework down in

Hungarian, so even if they manage the numbers of the pages and the exercises, this

would need to be translated into the L1. Another reason may be the additional

information about the homework which often seemed to consist of ‗difficult‘ words.

Some of the teachers in this study believed that there were words that needed to be
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learned at each level and there were words that were too difficult for the students at a

certain level (see Chapter Six, page 255, for further discussion).

Instructions for now

Having looked at the instructions for the future, I now consider what kind of

instructions the teachers gave for ―here and now".

The elementary teachers gave instructions for now in the L1 much more often

than the intermediate teachers (519 utterances compared to 182). The exception is

teacher Hajni, who used very little L1. Her position (being just trained to teach the L2

using no or hardly any L1) was already discussed in the first qualitative analysis. The

next example shows a few exchanges between the pupils and the teacher and a fairly

typical way of giving instructions:

Example 4.22: Lesson Kati 2

Original script Translated script
88. T : windows windows
how many windows are there? how many windows are there?
hány ablakunk van? <how many windows have we got?>
how many? how many?
egy nagy ablak két nagy ablak <one big window two big windows
hármas ablak de kettő van three glasses but two windows>
two windows two windows
mondjad <say it>
89. S : two windows two windows
90. T : igen <yes>
91. S : a door a door
92. T : a door a door

The instruction is the last utterance in turn 88, ―Say it!" The class is elementary. The

pupils often get L1 help to repeat L2 words, read sentences, listen to the tape, or do an

oral or written exercise in their exercise book. For the beginners the exercises were

often difficult; they had to concentrate hard on the pronunciation and on the words. The

teachers made their tasks easier partly by using the L1 for instructions, and also for

feedback or for asking questions.

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 It is important to notice here that often when the teacher uses the L1, the

students are still expected to use the L2 in response (in turns 89 and 91). This brings up

again the question about which language is to be used when (previously discussed on

page 168). This incident shows that young children are still learning their L1, and they

may do activities similar to this one, naming objects, in their L1 in other lessons.

Sometimes instructions were given to physically do something. When the

teachers organised some of the activities they often used their L1 to do so. The next

example shows Teacher Kati organising an activity to demonstrate the words ―next"

and ―near" and ―far" by asking a pupil to stand at different places:

Example 4.23: Lesson Kati 1

Original script Translated script
355 T : szóval? <well?>
javítod ugye <you are correcting it, right?>
Luca gyere ide <Luca come here>
ha itt állunk fordulj meg <if we stand here turn round>
és akkor az itt van mellettünk vagy <and then is it next to us or is it
távolabb van? further?>
356 Ss : távolabb <further>

The teacher instructs Tamara first to get in front of the class, to turn round, and then she

asks the class, all in the L1. This happened during her lesson with her elementary

pupils. With the intermediate ones she used the L1 less often, and gave extended

instructions, often without using the L1 at all. The next example shows one of the

incidences:

Example 4.24: Lesson Kati 4

Original script
264. T : … okay that‘s right thank you very much now do you remember that we had
some a a things here in our book about objects what is this?
265. Ss : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
266. T : this is the (xxxx) and what is that? Margaret? That is (xxxx)?
267. T : that is a^ a^ Robi that is a^
268. S : picture
269. T : that is a picture what are these? Peti?
270. S : This
271. T : these (4.0)
272. S : these are

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 273. T : yes repeat please
274. S : these are a
275. T : a^ once again these are^
276. S : these are pens
277. T : pens\ once again Peti repeat please
278. S : these are pens

Teacher Kati used different amounts of L1 utterances for giving instructions and asking

questions at the two different levels. In the elementary classes she had 73 and 52 L1

instructions for now, compared to the intermediate classes, where she only used 25 and

19 L1 utterances for the same function. Obviously just from two lessons each, it is

difficult to generalise and draw firm conclusions, but it seems that with the more

advanced pupils for the same teacher (and so maybe for other teachers too) it is easier

to use the L2 to give instructions. The reason might be that the more often they do

similar activities, the easier it gets to know what to do. Routine activities required less

instruction and probably less L1 use also (see also page 195).

The above has been about the teachers giving instructions. The students needed

to respond, either physically or verbally. The next category will deal with the last of the

three major functions: when the teacher is requiring a verbal response (most of the

time) from her students by asking questions.

4.5.4 Question

The elementary teachers had 453 utterances that had L1 words in them to ask questions,

while the intermediate teachers used 181 L1 utterances for the same function. The

category of Question consists of 2 sub-categories: Information Question and Eliciting.

The following graph shows the distributions of the percentages of these sub-categories

for each teacher‘s Questions.

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 Figure 4.5: Distribution of percentages of different Question utterances
comparing the two levels

Question (two lessons/teacher)

90.00%

80.00%

70.00%

60.00%
Utterances (%)

50.00%
Information que.

40.00% Eliciting

30.00%

20.00%

10.00%

0.00%
F1+2 G1+2 H1+2 K1+2 K3+4 M1+2 P1+2 I1+2
Y1+2

Elementary Intermediate

With the exception of Teacher Marika, the teachers used, on average, about twice as

many eliciting questions (questions that they knew the answer to already at the time of

asking) as information questions (‗real‘ questions) in the L1. Teacher Marika used very

few eliciting questions in the L1 because, although she was dealing with written texts,

her teaching method was different from that of the others. She read the story, showed

pictures, did activities with them moving around the students in the classroom.

Throughout the lessons she would ask many information questions in L1, like ―Did you

understand?" ―Which picture do you want?" She rarely required the students to

translate texts, but made sure they understood the meaning of words and texts by using

other methods in the L2. I look into the information questions first. When the teacher

genuinely does not know something, she asks a ‗real‘ (information) question.

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Information Questions

What kind of ‗real‘ questions the teachers asked in the L1 depended on many things.

Some of these questions are about the class, for example: ―Who is missing?‖, ―Where is

pupil X?‖, ―Where is the teacher‘s diary?‖ Some questions were about the pupils, for

example: ―Have you been fighting?‖ or ―Are you not well?‖ There are many questions

during these lessons concerning the tasks and the activities which the pupils are

involved in, for example: ―What did you say?‖ or ―Can you see it?‖

The different teachers used different amounts of information questions in the

L1. The 3 elementary teachers (teachers Franciska, Gizi and Kati) used more L1

utterances for this function than the intermediate teachers Kati, Marika Piroska and Ica.

Teacher Hajni used hardly any L1 utterances (4 and 2) for this function. One indication

that the level of the students may be a significant factor influencing the frequency of the

use of real questions in the L1, may be noticeable if we compare Teacher Kati‘s

lessons. She used many more information questions with her elementary class (43

utterances) than with her intermediate class (12 utterances). This may be just a

coincidence; maybe there were more things unknown to her during the two elementary

lessons. It is possible, however, that with the more advanced classes the teacher is able

to ask some of these questions in the L2, or another explanation may be that working

with the students for four years (as the intermediate teachers did) meant that the

teachers had fewer unknown things during the lessons.

Eliciting

Now I turn to the last sub-category: eliciting. This time the teacher asks a question, but

she already knows the answer to it. She ―only" wants to know if the students know the

answer too. The result shows that the elementary teachers used many more eliciting

questions (304 utterances) in the L1 than their intermediate colleagues (108 utterances).

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 Teacher Hajni again used this function much less than the other elementary

teachers (only 21 times during her 2 lessons). What is interesting is that Teacher Kati

used the high amount of L1 utterances for eliciting, 106 (61 and 45 times during her 2

elementary lessons). This is very important, if one compares this to her teaching the

intermediate students, using only 33 utterances for the same function (23 and 10 during

the two lessons). The first example shows a typical exchange during Teacher Kati‘s

elementary lessons:

Example 4.25: Lesson Kati 2

Original script Translated script
80. T : … mi az amit mi látunk itt az … <what is it we can see here in the
osztályban ? classroom?>
what are the things in the classroom what are the things in the classroom
the objects the things , Móni the objects the things , Móni
81. S : blackboard Blackboard
82. T : blackboard blackboard
83. S lights Lights
84. T lights lights
85. S TV TV
86. T TV TV
87. S. windows windows
88. T windows windows
how many windows are there? how many windows are there?

This shows that after the initial L1 elicitation (in turn 80) the teacher repeats the

question in the L2 too, and then the pupils can start answering in the L2. The teacher

also asked them to collect words, make up sentences, describe each other, and play

games, during the lessons. All of these activities were done without written texts and so

the need to translate was not so immediate. The teacher used the L1 elicitation to start

the activity in the L2, but because she also translated it into the L2, next time the

students may know the elicitation in the L2 too. The last utterance in our example

seems to confirm this, ―How many windows are there?" is only asked in the L2.

This may explain why the same teacher had far fewer L1 elicitation utterances

with her intermediate class. After 4 years of working together, the questions have

become familiar, and there was hardly any need to use the L1 to ask them.

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 Other times the teacher asked eliciting questions in the L1 to correct the

student‘s answer:

Example 4.26: Lesson Ica 1

Original script Translated script
404. S : draw drew ((incorrect pronunciation)) draw drew ((incorrect pronunciation))
drawn drawn
405. T : azt hogy ejtjük ki a középsőt? <how do we pronounce the middle one?>
406. S : draw draw

This is explicit grammar teaching. The teacher was also drawing attention to the

pronunciation of the word ‗drawn‘, without any context. This point will be considered

further in Chapter Six, page 255. The next example shows how the teacher was

teaching vocabulary about body parts.

Example 4.27: Lesson Gizi 2

Original script Translated script
53. T : … és mi a különbség a ‗hand‘ és az …<and what is the difference between
‗arm‘ között? the ‗hand‘ and the „arm‘?>
ki tudja megmondani (2.0) <who can tell me?> (2.0)
mit jelent az egyik és mit jelent a <what does one mean and what does
másik? Pisti the other mean?> Pisti
54. S : az ‗arm‘ az a kar <the „arm‘ is the arm>
55. T : kar <arm>
Mhm mhm
56. S : a ‗hand‘ az a kéz <the „hand‘ is the hand>
57. T : kéz <hand>
így van <that‟s right>

This is an example of when the pupils are asked to translate the words to explain the

difference. The same vocabulary could have been taught in many different ways,

following the recommendations of ‗good practice‘ (page 64). The teacher, for example,

could have asked in English, ―Show me your hand" or ―Show me your arm‖. This way

she would have been able to check if the students knew the difference. The weekly

vocabulary test (see discussion about this in Chapter 5, Qualitative Analysis, Pressures)

is probably the one of the most significant factors, influencing the use of the L1 by the

teachers. If the students are asked in them to translate the words, the teachers need to

ensure that all the words are translated. During the test the teacher would typically say

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the Hungarian and the students would write down the English equivalent, for example,

the body parts. The connection is needed: arm equals ―kar‖. So here, although no

written text was used during the activity, it probably derived from a covert written text.

When there are written L2 texts to work with, the interpretation of the sentences

and words is even more important. The following example is a typical one; all teachers

used translation while dealing with texts:

Example 4.28: Lesson Ica 2

81 T : … the dog came to a stream a stream … the dog came to a stream a stream
ott van hogy egy micsoda a stream? <there it is what a> stream is?
82 S : er patak er <stream>
83 T : patak így van <stream that‟s right>
tehát elérkezett hová? egy <so he arrived where? a>
84 S : patakhoz? <at a stream?>
85 T : patakhoz <at a stream>
there was a narrow bridge across it there was a narrow bridge across it

After reading the text in the L2 the teacher helps with the translation by asking the

meaning of some words, ‗stream‘, ‗bridge‘. She also translates some parts of the

sentence, ‗he arrived at‘, and so together they construct the meaning of the sentences in

Hungarian this way. In turn 81, after reading the sentence in the L2, the teacher asks for

the meaning of the word ‗stream‘ with a sentence where she used both languages:

‗What is a ‗stream?‘.

The next two examples also show how the need to translate L2 words may

encourage the teachers to use code-mixing, while initiating the meaning:

Example 4.29: Lesson Hajni 2

Original script Translated script
60. T : … what does it mean ‗éhes‟? … what does it mean <‗hungry‟>?
61. Ss : éhes <hungry>
hungry hungry
62. T : hungry but not angry, angry hungry but not angry, angry
angry mérges angry <angry>

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 Example 4.30: Lesson Franciska 1
Original script Translated script
170. T : shop (2.0) shop (2.0)
üzlet <shop>
mi a ‗station‘? <what is the ‗station‘?>
171. S : állomás <station>
172. T : állomás <station>
így van <that‟s right>

In both examples the teachers are asking for the meaning of a word. In the first example

in turn 60 the L1 word ―hungry‖ is required to be translated into L2; in the second

example, in turn 170, the L2 word ―station‖ is required to be translated into L1.

To be able to say correct sentences in the L2 the students need to know some

grammatical rules. This may be particularly challenging for young learners, as they are

just learning the rules of their mother tongue. The same teacher may be teaching them

L1 grammar rules in one lesson (Hungarian grammar and literature), and then L2

grammar rules during the next one (English as a foreign language) so she would be

aware of what they know of their mother tongue, and so be able to help them with the

English grammar..

The last eliciting example comes from a lesson where the teacher is explicitly

teaching grammar:

Example 4.31: Lesson Franciska 1

Original script Translated script
278. T : children az már többes szám children <that is plural already>
ezt húzd le <cross this over>
(2.0) children (2.0) (2.0) children (2.0)
gyerekek, mi a a ‗children-nek‟ az <children, what is the singular form of
egyes száma? „children‘?>
279. S : child child

Here the teacher is asking the class what the singular form of the word ‗children‘ is,

after spotting somebody writing ‗childrens‘ into his or her exercise book. Irregular

words are challenging for the students. Children who learn English as their mother

tongue may also make similar mistakes. They recognise a particular rule, for example

to put an ‗s‘ after the noun to make it plural, and then try to apply to all nouns. All

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learners need to learn if there are exceptions to the rules. Here in the foreign language

classroom the teacher‘s L1 question leads to an answer, which gives information. This

time the information comes not from the teacher, but from another pupil. When the

teacher asks a question, she is asking the whole class. A pupil answers and the pupil,

who made a mistake, and also the rest of the class, can hear the rule again: ―Child-

children‖.

This is the pattern of how the eliciting usually works in these classrooms. The

teacher elicits, a student or students answer together, and the whole class can hear the

answer. If the answer is incorrect, the teacher makes sure that the correct answer is

given by asking again, or helping out or giving the answer.

4.6 Summary
In Chapter 4 I have analysed the classroom data quantitatively. In the first part of the

quantitative analysis I counted and compared the frequency of the L1 and L2 words of

the participants. In these 16 classrooms the teachers talked much more than the

students (average 75%). The results also show a relationship between the level of the

children and the amount of L1 use by their teachers. On average, the elementary

teachers used more L1 (46%) than the intermediate teachers (21%). These findings

show that there is a relationship between the level of the students and their teachers‘

language choice. Two teachers, one from each level, did not fit into the overall pattern,

as one elementary teacher used much less L1 than her colleagues, and one intermediate

teacher used more than the other intermediate ones. This suggests that the teachers‘

beliefs about the students‘ proficiency level could be one of the variables influencing

the amount of L1 use in these classrooms.

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 In the second part I analysed the teachers' L1 utterances. L1 was used for

different reasons, most often for giving information, asking questions and giving

instructions.

The analysis suggests that certain variables, especially the activity type and how

the teachers used the L2 textbooks influenced these results. The teachers mediated

between the textbook and the students, and because their aim was to teach the words

and the grammar explicitly from the texts, they often gave extra information and asked

comprehension questions in the L1. They also used classroom instructions in the L1 to

conduct the lessons.

This second analysis provided a breakdown of the L1 use by the teacher

according to the function of the utterance. This is the first step in answering the

question ―Why are the teachers using the L1?‖ To be able to give a more complex

answer to the same question, I will now move from the quantitative analysis to the

qualitative analysis, and in Chapter 5 I shall look into the lessons and into the

interviews with the teachers.

The two questions to be answered are: ―Why are the teachers using the L1 during

their lessons?‖ and ―What do they think about the use of the L1 in the MFL classes?‖

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 Chapter Five
5. Chapter Five: Qualitative
Qualitative Analysis analysis

5.1 Introduction

In Chapter Four I offered an analysis of the frequency of use of the L1 by the teachers.

How much L1 is used during each lesson and why the teachers used it showed a varied

picture and offered some possible generalisations and an explanation about what is

happening during the English lessons in these primary classes. The analysis had two

purposes: first, to determine how often the L1 was used and second, to determine the

functions associated with the use of the L1. Chapter Four was primarily descriptive in

its aims. The purpose of this chapter is explanatory, in the sense that the main purpose

is to determine why the L1 is used, and, more generally, why teachers do what they do

in classrooms. The approach is primarily qualitative, and the analysis makes use of both

the lesson transcripts and the transcripts of interviews with the teachers. This chapter

offers a more in-depth analysis, using examples from both the interviews with the

teachers and from the classroom data.

In the following analysis I have adopted these categories, namely ‗pressures‘

and ‗constraints‘. Pressures referred to here, are pressures to teach the language for

communication while constraints means those factors that inhibit or prevent

communicative language teaching in the young learners‘ classrooms.

There are certain pressures on these teachers to apply certain methods in the

classrooms. These pressures arise from the National Core Curriculum, the teachers‘

formal training, past experiences and expectations, the parents, the exams, the

textbooks, the schools‘ expectations and the expectations of the students themselves

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and visitors (the researcher being one of them). Some of these pressures tend to push

the teachers in the direction of teaching the language for communication, but some

others conflict with this objective. The problem for each of the teachers (elementary or

intermediate) is to find a way of reconciling the different conflicting pressures.

Against the pressures there is a set of constraints, in other words those factors

which set limits on what is possible. The teacher‘s ability to speak the target language,

their beliefs about learning, the fact that it is a monolingual class in a setting where

outside the classroom there is little use of the target language, the difference between

the L1 and the L2, the cognitive and affective characteristics of children at this age, the

textbook, the perceived lack of time, the lack of space, the behaviour of some of the

children and the different levels of motivation. It is in the interaction between these two

sets of contextual factors (pressures and constraints) that we can begin to understand

why the teachers do what they do in these classrooms.

The final section in Chapter 5 selects three different teachers, and shows how

they dealt with the pressures and constraints they were facing. Firstly I will show a

teacher who gave up teaching in the L2 almost completely. Next I will introduce a

teacher, who was trying to use the L2 as much as possible, but her long L2 turns were

not supported by other clues and the students found it difficult to understand her. The

third teacher was more successful in her communication in the L2, although she also

used grammar translation and memorization. I also suggest a fourth category, for

teachers who manage to use the L2 and teach communicatively.

5.2 Pressures
The pressures that are influencing the behaviour of the teachers in these classrooms

come from different places. The first very important place to start to look into is the

training itself.

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5.2.1 Teachers‟ training

All of the teachers who participated in the study had been trained to teach English as a

foreign language. Two teachers had University Degrees (Ica and Kati). The five other

teachers had a diploma from a Teacher Training College, and out of these five teachers

four (Hajni, Franciska, Marika, Piroska) attended part time training at the Teacher

Training College to learn to teach English as a foreign language. The fifth teacher

(Gizi) studied at a Teacher Training Collage to be a primary school teacher, while at the

same time she specialised in teaching English.

The Teacher Training Colleges recently put a lot of emphasis on using the L2

during the lessons. Teacher Hajni, who was just finishing her training at the time of her

interview, told me this. The number in the bracket refers to the turn in the interview.

Example 5.1: Interview with Teacher Hajni (turn 159)

T: well, to tell the truth, at the teacher training college, that is what we have
learned, we learned, er we were talking about it, to use the target language as
much as possible, so in reality to use the target language during the whole
lesson.

This is a substantial change for those teachers who used to teach Russian before the

1990s, for Teacher Hajni herself, and the others too, except Teacher Kati. As Russian

language teachers, they used to teach by translating and by explaining in the L1.

Exclusive L2 use by the teachers with young pupils in classroom settings can be

challenging. None of the teachers I visited used the L2 all the time. It seems that in

everyday practice the L1 use was widespread.

This poses a problem for the teachers when somebody visits the class. If the

teacher thinks that somebody who visits the class expects L2 use only, they assume a

different way of teaching is required. One way of satisfying the visitor or visitors is to

practise the lesson beforehand. I witnessed this twice during my visits. Once I could not

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record one of Teacher Piroska‘s lessons, because the class was practising for a visit

from a tutor from the teacher training college. The other occasion was when I did the

non-directive interviews, at the end of the classroom data collection. Before each

interview I visited a lesson, without recording it or taking notes. Teacher Gizi, who was

also just about to finish a 2-year part-time English teaching course at the Teacher

Training College, chose her Grade 7 students for me to see. There was no group or pair

work during the lesson; Teacher Gizi was always in charge of the communication.

After the lesson she told me that her final practical teaching exam would be in a few

weeks time, with the same class:

Example 5.2: Interview with Teacher Gizi (turns 44-49)

R: and you are going to do the teaching practice with them, is it right?
T: yes, yes, yes ((laughter))
R: when will it be?
T: in about three weeks, I do not know the exact date
R: and you will be given a mark for that teaching and that will be the mark for the
college?
T: yes, yes yes yes yes, and I have chosen them because I really would like to do a
„practice‟ lesson, the kind you have just seen, so the lesson, during the lesson it
matters you can show what they have learned up till then, as we can only
practise what we have learned, and then (at the teaching practice) I also would
like to show the verb tenses, that we know this one, we can use this one, we
know that one, we can use that one too. In my opinion practice matters a lot in
language learning, practising, practising, again and again, using it all the time,
because this is how we can go on, to learn more…

The language of the lesson I saw was mainly English, and I do believe that three weeks

later Teacher Gizi managed to use the L2 exclusively at her final teaching. She was

able to achieve this by practising everything beforehand, until it was familiar for the

students. It seems that the expectation of using the L2 exclusively resulted in careful

planning beforehand. The activities that were chosen were not for practising

communication, they were for showing that the students could understand the teacher‘s

English speech and answer appropriately. Questions about the students, about different

topics, grammar, almost anything can be learned by practising it. The teacher would

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know very well what is ‗safe‘ to ask and do during her exam teaching, and at the end of

the lesson would probably be rewarded with a good mark from the examiners. The

practice lesson would show how much the students already know. It of course would

not show how they had been learning all of these things. As the teacher believed that

the examiners would want to hear her use the L2 as much as possible, this governed her

plan for the lesson in question.

What is very important here is to see that the pressure of using the L2 as the

language of the lesson can indeed influence not just the lesson that is visited, but the

lessons beforehand. One of the important contributions of this thesis is, I believe, that

it shows real life in real classrooms. For a researcher who is a complete stranger, or

who may be seen as an authoritarian figure, it would be much more difficult to see this

deep into the ‗black box‘ and to see the preparation lesson for the lesson that is to be

visited. Because I am a teacher and I knew about these preparation lessons, the teachers

freely referred to them, and Teacher Gizi even allowed me to see one.

How teachers teach depends on many factors, a visitor being only one of them.

Some teachers may try to use the L2 as much as they can, even if nobody is around,

while others may not worry about using L1, even when somebody visits them. The

teaching methods also depend on the class and the teacher‘s beliefs about the students‘

cognitive abilities. The same teacher (Teacher Gizi) who was planning to use the L2

exclusively for her teaching exam with a Grade 6 class, with her other class in Grade 4,

hardly used the L2. After the first recorded lesson she told me that in her opinion her

―Grade 4 students were not able to learn a foreign language‖. Further observation

would be needed to compare different age groups and different abilities, and to

ascertain whether teachers teach different ability classes differently, and if the answer is

yes, why?

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 The Teacher Training Colleges not only expect certain methods, for example

exclusive L2 use, but also teach different methods to achieve those given aims. If the

aim is to use the L2, the way to do this is also taught. Teacher Piroska, who was very

keen to use the L2 during her lessons, explained how she had been trained to deal with

unknown words:

Example 5.3: Interview with Teacher Piroska (turns 70, 80)

T: with the new texts, … we definitely write out the new words, … how I do it, not
just kind of in an automatic way, English and Hungarian, English Hungarian,
but either I draw it on the board and then I ask them to connect them, what do
you think, have you heard this word before? … … when I write out the words,
then it is so kind of final, it is final. I have given the new words, there are not
any new words, then they just have to put them together. That it not an easy task
either, I sometimes do it like that too, of course, I sometimes do it too, either
drawing the word or explaining it in English or mime it, the ways I have
learned in the methodology, you know, and if it does not work,… but there are
always a few children at least who work out what I am talking about, or what
this teacher is miming…

Teacher Piroska used many different techniques to introduce new words during the

lessons I observed, including mime, drawing, connecting pictures with words. When

one of the learners in the class understood the meaning of a word, s/he was encouraged

to say the Hungarian translation, in front of the whole class. To understand a word

meant on these occasions to know the Hungarian equivalent of it. Then everybody

wrote the word down, alongside the translation.

For Teacher Piroska and for the other teachers too, the final aim is still to teach

each word, in English, with the correct spelling and the Hungarian translation of it.

They believe that all the words from the texts need to be learned both in oral and

written form. During the lessons I observed all ‗new‘ words from the course book were

written down with their L1 translation.

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 Using Teacher Piroska‘s method to teach the new words takes much longer than

simply giving the translation right after each new word. Here is an example of how an

unknown word (―pod‖) was taught by using a drawing of it:

Example 5.4: Lesson Piroska 1

Original script Translated script
107 T : …What is pods? Look at the picture and …What is pods? Look at the picture
try to find out Kati and try to find out Kati
108. S : hagyma ((guessing from the picture)) <onion> ((guessing from the picture))
109. T : almost ((smiling)) almost ((smiling))
110. ]S : mandula <almond>
111. T : no No
112. S : termés <fruit>((with special connotation))
113. T : termés <fruit>((with special connotation))
yes very close yes very close
114. S : (xxxx xxxx) amikor a virágon nem jön (xxxx xxxx) <when the flower has no
ki a bimbó (2.0) bud> (2.0)
no (2.0) ((pupils are trying to guess the no (2.0) ((pupils are trying to guess the
meaning)) termés az jó gubó hüvely meaning)) <fruit is good pod legume
115 T :
gubó hüvely please write gubó hüvely pod legume> please write <pod
pods legume> pods

The first question: ―What is pods?‖ in turn 107 may be seen as an open-ended question,

promoting communication and guessing of the meaning of the word. In reality, it was

simply a way of achieving a translation from the student(s) The students were more

likely to know the word ‗fruit‘, than the less used word ‗pod‘.. The teacher tried to stay

in the L2 and managed to use only L2 in turns 107, 109, 111. A feature, unique to

classes where the teacher and the students share the same L1, can be observed here,

used appropriately: the teacher uses L2 questions or feedback, while the students use

L1 (see turn 107, 108 and 109 for example).

The other teachers I observed also used this particular method extensively,

staying in the L2, and allowing the students to use the L1, but only so that they could

translate the L2 words or sentences into L1. This did not give real opportunities for

language learning. It is possible that the teachers‘ belief about their students‘ linguistic

capabilities, that they either do not know the word in the L2, or could not express

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themselves in the L2 when giving more complex answers, has also an effect on the

interaction in the classroom, allowing such communication to take place.

This mixed communication, with one participant using L1 while the other L2,

resembles the communication between a child and it‘s caretaker at the early years of

first language learning. In the foreign language classroom allowing the child to use the

L1 while to teacher stays in the L2 provides opportunities for the learner to hear the

new language and at the same time be able to communicate with the teacher. Later on,

with the learner‘s proficiency level increased, it will be possible for him or her to start

using the L2 for communication more and more.

The problem of dealing with unknown vocabulary is also recognised in the

Teacher‘s Handbook. The handbook is part of the course book, and was published in

Britain. Teacher Hajni, after explaining the requirements of the training, talks about it:

Example 5.5: Interview with Teacher Hajni (turn 159)

T: and there in the teacher‟s handbook, it explicitly says that the language I mean
the grammar or a situation or a word that er is not like TV that is obvious, as
TV is TV, but let‟s say … “kitchen” … because they may not know it at once, so
these we can, without any problems, say in Hungarian

When Teacher Hajni let me see her lessons, it was clear that she was keen to try to use

the L2, to explain unknown words, but sometimes she could not scaffold their

comprehension successfully. On these occasions she abandoned the attempt to use the

L2 and translated the word or a sentence.

For those teachers who would like to follow the guidelines of their training, but

sometimes find it too difficult, the Teacher‘s Handbook of the Chatterbox book, which

all teachers used, gives a reassuring message that the L1 use is allowed. This is what it

says:

―Only use the equivalent word in the mother tongue to explain the meaning
of a word if you do not find any other ways‖ (Strange, 1993: 5).

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The message here is that the L1 can be used. This may come to some of the teachers as

a relief. There is another point of interest here: because the course books and the

handbooks they use were written in Britain, they may feel justified, questionably,

thinking: ‗Where else would they know how to teach English best if not in Britain?‘

They say it is okay to use the L1, so it must be okay. Some teachers talked about

textbooks, but unfortunately I did not ask explicitly their opinion about the

coursebooks; in the future it would be interesting to find out more about their beliefs

about what is a good textbook and why.

As shown above, the teachers have been given conflicting advice. This may

cause them confusion. There is a big question for some of them about how to teach, as

Teacher Hajni summarised:

Example 5.6: Interview with Teacher Hajni (turn 165)

T: …language teaching now is, let me see, to translate, not to translate, only the
grammar, only to speak, well, somehow all should be integrated, because we
need a bit from all to be able to say a sentence.

It is very important what the teachers think the aims are. Their beliefs and the various

factors that affect their beliefs are not pressures, but rather influencing factors. I would

still like to point it out here that Teacher Hajni believes that the ‗final aim‘ is for the

students to ‗say a sentence‘ with the right words, correct grammar, correct

pronunciation. She would use any of the methods she can think of that, in her opinion,

would help to reach this aim. Other teachers would believe in other ‗final aims‘, for

example Teacher Piroska was most concerned that her students would enjoy the lessons

and love the new language. This would make her use methods that would achieve her

aim, for example games and stories. But she was alone in this view, as most teachers

emphasised vocabulary learning and grammar teaching as the most important things.

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 Students of different age groups and levels are expected to be able to know and

do different things. As this thesis investigates Grade 4, I am now turning to the official

recommendations for this age group, and will discuss how the curriculum influences

what is happening in these classrooms.

5.2.2 National Core Curriculum and syllabus design

The Hungarian National Core Curriculum (Nemzeti Alaptanterv, 2003) prescribes both

what this age group should be taught, and how they should be taught. The main aim is

to promote ‗communicative competence‘, which means ‗to be able to use the language

in real situations‘ (page 32). The NCC suggests that songs and rhymes are important

tools when teaching languages to young learners, and expects the students to learn a

few songs by heart by the end of Grade 4 (see page 6 ). During the first year of official

start (Grade 4) students are also expected to learn how to answer some basic questions

about themselves and their surroundings.

The teachers often incorporate a ‗question – answer‘ time into the lesson, to

constantly practise brief conversational exchanges in the L2. This is most often done at

the very beginning of the lesson, during the so called ‗warm-up‘ activity. The following

two extracts from the interviews show what happens during these activities: first,

Teacher Marika explains why the students need to be warmed up:

Example 5.7: Interview with Teacher Marika (turns 4-6)

T: … this was the leading to er on one hand er to start to warm them up to get
used to speaking that they are in a language lesson er these warm up exercises
are very important er in a language lesson (2.0) imagine they come out of a
Hungarian speaking environment and they have to start to speak a foreign
language
R: yeah
T: so this does not happen by waving a magic wand, so in the first five minutes we
always er we start with some warming up (2.0)

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Teacher Hajni then talks about some of the activities that she uses during the warming

up:

Example 5.8: Interview with Teacher Hajni (turns 35-37)

T: … and so at the beginning of the lesson we always have a bit of a chat a kind of
a questioning.
R: yeah
T: then the singing too, we just learned the „Head and shoulders‟ last time…

During the warming up activities no new material is being taught. Singing songs,

answering well known and practised questions can become routine activities. In some

cases these activities became such rituals that there was not even the need for

instruction to start them. The following example shows Teacher Franciska starting her

lesson:

Example 5.9: Lesson Franciska 1

Original script
1 T : Good morning children
2 S : good morning teacher ((students start singing songs at once, even without the
prompting from the teacher)) good morning good morning good morning to you
good morning good morning and how do you do
3 T : abc
4 Ss : ((singing)) a b c d e f g h i j k l n n o p q r s t u v w x y z abc …

I saw other lessons by teacher Franciska with the same students, and the pattern was

often the same: the teacher first greeted the class, they answered, and then started to

sing at once. At the end of each song either the teacher prompted the next song, for

example in the above example in turn 3 by saying ‗A, B, C‘, which gave the clue that

this was the next song. Or, if nothing was said, the whole class knew the order of the

songs and just continued with the next one. They probably learned them in the order

they sing them. An interesting feature of this extract is in turn 3. Here the teacher did

not need to use a whole sentence to give instruction. Instead of saying ‗The next song is

abc, start now‘, she only needed the title of the song. This is an example which shows

that routine activities often need less explanation, less scaffolding and less language use

(either L1 or L2) than new activities.

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 The warm up activities (either talking in the L2, or singing) were a regular part

of most of the lessons. They did not last for a long time, and after a few minutes a

marker (‗well‘, ‗now‘) signalled a change. If there was homework given previously,

this was the usual time to check it together. If there was no homework, the main part of

the lesson started.

The main part is most often built around the textbook. Previous research has

shown that in Hungary course books in the language classrooms have very often been

used as the syllabus itself (Medgyes and Nikolov, 2002). With the course book

‗Chatterbox‘ a Hungarian version of the syllabus is also published, in Hungarian, in

which it is stated: ―Chatterbox covers all the topics, functions and communicative needs

that the NCC suggests and expects. The Chatterbox Series allows the students to learn

all that the NCC expects in the areas of listening, and reading, talking and writing‖

(Benkő and Jobbágy, 1993: 5).

The syllabus contained in the Hungarian edition of Chatterbox also suggests a

weekly plan for the teachers to follow, giving a detailed plan for each week, including

set time for practice lessons and tests. If the teachers accept that following the course

book fulfils the expectation of the NCC, they do not need to plan more, just simply

follow the book. This has very important implications. In the classes I observed the

course books had indeed become the syllabus itself, with some extra material, and the

tests in the course book were used as the basis for assessment. This is the time to have a

closer look at the course books themselves.

5.2.3 Textbooks

All the teachers who participated in this study used course books with L2 texts, and

aimed at the children knowing all the words and grammatical structures which were in

the book. Teacher Ica told me how they usually deal with the texts:

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 Example 5.10: Interview with Teacher Ica (turns 11-13)
T: this lesson, lesson 10 we have read it only yesterday the first time, so today it
was the second time they read it, as the homework was only to read it through
and translate it to be able to translate it well, because in my classes after when
we wrote the vocabulary test and when we read and translated it many times,
then I sometimes, just to check without warning, I ask the children orally too,
then we do not do anything else, just read it and translate it. So when we start
working with a new text, a dialogue, I always tell them to learn it by heart. They
usually have a week to do this, 6 or 7 days for this, and after this they have to
tell me by heart.
R: so today was the second time
T: this was the second time for us to work with this text. We did practise it again;
they did not tell it to me by heart yet, as we had just read it yesterday, so that is
right. The first time we worked with it we put the new words into the
vocabularies and so on. So this was the second time, to be honest, so in theory
tomorrow from tomorrow they may get marks for it, because we have dealt
with it twice already, so they have to (learn it)…

Other teachers also expressed that the main aim when they teach from a coursebook is:

Example 5.11: Interview with Teacher Marika (turn 60)

T: (they will have to) tell the text, alone, by heart, that is … in the end they have to
learn it.‘

To be able to understand what is expected of the students when they have to learn the

text by heart after ‗dealing with the text twice‘, first I will show two of the texts, from

Chatterbox Book 4. Then I will explain what kind of challenges these texts pose and

how the teachers need to mediate between the text and the students, to help them to

learn the words, and learn the text by heart.

In the Chatterbox series (the course books that all the classes in this research

used) the different units are built around topics, for example stamps, space shuttle,

robots, planets, jobs, Hollywood, Australia, money, Japan, Ancient Egypt (examples

from Book 4). The texts are mostly descriptive, with information that is thought to be

interesting for young learners. The following extract is an example from the Level 4

book, Chatterbox 4 {Holderness 1991):

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 Example 5.12: „Inside the space shuttle‟ Text in the course book
A space shuttle is an aeroplane with two rockets and a fuel tank. It can go up into space
and come down again. It can carry about seven people, satellites and a space
laboratory called Spacelab. On a space shuttle journey the astronauts send out
satellites and look at life in space. They work and eat and sleep in the space shuttle.
The astronauts float around the space shuttle because there isn‟t any gravity. They
need special shoes inside the space shuttle, but they only put on space suits and helmets
to go out of the shuttle. It is very difficult to eat and drink. Food is usually made of
powder. The astronauts add water to it. Then they drink it. (Holderness 1991: 8)

Alongside similar topics like the above one, there is also a continuous story in each

unit, through the four books, with the same characters, presented as a strip cartoon

narrative. The language in the cartoon story is mostly conversation between the

different characters. The following example is from Book 4, Unit 1, under the first

picture of the story, in which the characters are in a space ship and floating around:

Example 5.13: „Forwards to the future‟ cartoon conversation in the course book
 Kate laughed. ―Look at Barker!‖ she said.
 ―He is upside down and he‘s chasing his bone.‖
 Uncle John said: ―We are flying through space and we are going to Mars.‖ (page 2)

The students are expected to learn both the texts and the conversations by heart. The

text needs to be recited on request, in front of the whole class, while the conversations

are either acted out with others, or recited. Both of these types of performance are

practised weekly and marks are given for them.

Each unit in the course book, as well as the student workbook, also has some

oral and written exercises that practise the new words (for example ‗helmet‘,

grammatical structures, for example ‗careful‘, ‗more careful‘ and functions, for

example ‗expressing difference‘).

During the main part of the lessons in this study (an average 30 minutes out of

the 45 minutes of whole lesson time) the teachers usually taught from the course book,

going through the text and exercises in the order of presentation in the book. Different

teachers worked with the texts differently, some asking the children to underline the

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unknown words while listening to the text from the cassette, some first playing the

cassette and then together with the students going through the text, sentence by

sentence, reading it, and translating it. Whatever method they chose, the end result was

the same: the students had all the unknown words written out in their vocabulary

notebooks, with the Hungarian translation next to it.

The students need varying amounts of help from the teacher to be able to

understand the new words. When the students meet a new text, for example ‗space

shuttle‘, these may not only be unknown words that need to be translated, but

depending on the age of the learners, there may be many difficult or unknown concepts

in the texts. In Example 5.12, for example, words like ‗rocket‘, ‗fuel tank‘, ‗space‘,

‗satellites‘, ‗space laboratory‘, ‗astronauts‘, ‗gravity‘ and ‗space suits‘ are all words that

may not be enough to translate word for word, but need to be discussed further, making

sure that all the children know what these words really mean. ‗Gravity‘ is translated as

‗gravitáció‘, but a 9-10 year old child may need help to understand the concept.

Their teachers know the students and their abilities, and during language

teaching they constantly give information, about the text, the words, the ideas, as well

as keep checking their students‘ understanding by asking elicitation questions and

giving feedback on their translation. To make sure that the students understand the text,

the explanation or the question, the teachers I observed often used the mother tongue.

In the previous chapter, in the quantitative analysis, the results of the teachers‘

L1 use showed the most frequent functions of L1 utterances were to (a) give

information, (b) ask questions and (c) give instruction.

Here the first two functions (a and b) will be discussed in more detail. For the

teachers (and the pupils) it is important that the pupils not only understand every word,

but they also achieve a global understanding of the meaning of the text. If, for example,

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they are learning about space shuttles, then it is motivating and important that they can

connect the L2 text with their previous knowledge, making the translation and the final

memorisation easier. So while the teachers may use the L2 when dealing with unknown

words, and let the students guess the meaning, often they use the L1 to give feedback

on the students‘ translation, and information about the different words, culture, and

customs that are useful for the students to know.

Learning these texts by heart poses a considerable challenge for the students;

this is made even more difficult because English orthography, unlike Hungarian, is not

phonetic. Some teachers let the students write the phonetic pronunciation, with the

Hungarian letters, above the difficult words or next to them into the vocabulary book

for quick reference. The students are expected to do two very different things: one is to

learn each word, with its spelling and its Hungarian translation, and the other is to be

able to recite the text with the correct pronunciation.

Oral recitation is indeed frequent practice in Hungarian classrooms. Teachers of

subjects other than English would also give oral homework, like memorising poems,

songs, stories, or simply facts; then on request, often without any warning, the student

has to stand up in front of the whole class and recite the requested part, and is then

given a mark. This is called ‗felelés‘, and although some research has shown that

without ‗felelés‘ the students are more active and spontaneous during the lessons, and

may learn more freely (Duff, 1996), this oral questioning for a mark is still widely

practised during language lesson.

There is a very interesting feature associated with these classrooms which rely

so heavily on the text in the course book. There are some episodes during the recorded

lessons when the teachers explicitly state that there are words to be learned, the new

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words in the course book, while other, ‗more difficult ones‘ are to be learned later on.

Here is an example from Teacher Gizi‘s second lesson:

Example 5.14: Lesson Gizi 2

Original script Translated script
139 S : Szilvi‘s got ő black (orange hair) Szilvi‘s got er black (orange hair)
140 T : hair nem orange (2.0) ((laughter and hair <not> orange (2.0) ((laughter and
chatting, the students seem to be asking how chatting, the students seem to be asking
to say ‗fair hair‘ in English )) gyerekek ez how to say ‗fair hair‘ in English ))
az amit többször is elmondok hogy új <children this is what I keep telling you
szavakkal szeretnének dolgozni nem tehát we need to work with the new words with
az amit most tudunk inkább az rögződjön the ones we are learning we need to
én szivesen megmondanám neked meg is make those stick in. I would love to tell
mondom majd de most próbáljunk meg you and will tell you (the word fair) but
abból a szókészletből építkezni amit but just now let us try to build on the
tudunk vocabulary that we have learned>
jó/ <good/>
141 S : Szilvi has got small nose Szilvi has got small nose

Teacher Gizi was not willing to tell the students the word ‗fair‘ in English, perhaps

because she knew it was not part of the vocabulary syllabus or maybe she could not

remember it. This made it impossible for the student to describe the other classmate

who did have fair hair. The students in this class had only been learning English for 10

months, and in the course book only the following colours appear: black, blue, brown,

green, grey, orange, pink, red, white and yellow. The teacher‘s belief about what is to

be learned and when divided the foreign language into two very distinctive parts, those

things that are to be learned and those that are not yet. When there are words to be

learned and words not to be learned during a language lesson, this shows very clearly

that the language itself is being treated as another subject, and not as the tool for ‗real‘

communication.

In these classes there were not just words to be learned at different stages, but

grammatical structures too. In the interviews the teachers talked a lot about grammar

teaching, and how difficult they often find this. Because of the difficulty they often put

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a lot of emphasis on the grammar, and even start teaching it before going through the

text itself, as Teacher Franciska explained:

Example 5.15: Interview with Teacher Franciska (turns 6-8)

T: …how I do it is not to start with the text first but start with the grammar so we
go through it again
R: yeah
T: to er tidy it up in everybody‟s head so they will know the grammar and then,
… they translate it…

This is clearly grammar-translation and deductive method (see Chapter 6, page 255, for

further discussion).

The assessment of the students‘ progress is relatively easy when this method is

being used, as ‗everything that is needed to be known‘ is in the book. I now turn to a

consideration of the assessment and how the constant need to give marks, points, to

correct tests, and mark vocabulary tests puts an extra pressure on the teachers and also

influences their way of teaching.

The following two factors, Marks (5.2.4) and Exams (5.2.5) are discussed under

the heading ‗Pressures‘, although in some cases they can be inhibitory factors or

constraints, and could limit the possibility of teaching the language for communication.

For example, if the assessment is concerned with how well the students can

communicate, this would put pressure on the teacher to teach communicatively, but if

the test or the exam asks for grammatical rules or sentence translation, this would have

a washback effect and influence the teacher to teach the language explicitly, and

abandon communicative language teaching to achieve the results. As the curriculum

expects communicative language teaching, the assessment is expected to follow this

aim. Unfortunately this was often not the case, for different reasons, explained in the

following discussion:

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5.2.4 Marks

In the Hungarian educational system, assessment has played a very important role for

decades. It is necessary to discuss the system of marking in primary schools here

before showing how the marks themselves are another pressure for both the teachers

and the students during the lessons, including the English language lessons.

Since the year 2004 the first years of primary education students have not been

given marks, but rather receive a written evaluation from the teacher twice a year.

However, at the time of the data collection, marks were still being given to all students

in Grade 4 for their English language performance. In what follows I shall describe the

situation at the time of the research. The school year is divided into two semesters, from

September to January and from February till June. At the end of the first term and the

end of the school year each student is given marks for each subject they have learned.

They are also given marks for behaviour and for attitude. The marks can be between 1

(failed) and 5 (excellent). If a student gets a mark 1 for any subject at the end of the

school year (for behaviour and attitude the lowest mark is 2), then that student needs to

take an extra exam at the end of the summer. The exam would cover the whole year

from the subject in question, and depending on the result of the exam the student may

be required to repeat the whole grade. This means he or she will not continue with the

class, but would be in a new class, or if the exam was successful, he or she would be

able to continue to next grade.

The mark for the end of year, as well as for the end of first term, is calculated on

the basis of the average of the marks given during the whole of that term. During term

time, marks are given every month for performance during the lessons, as well as for

tests, essays, and for ‗felelés‘ (oral report on facts or oral reciting of learned texts, and

poems). Each student has a little booklet (‗tájékoztató füzet‘) into which all the marks

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or guardian.

Being given a bad mark is a constant threat. Teachers often remind their pupils

about the tests, the marks and the possible consequences of not learning something or

not paying attention. Here is an example of the teacher using the threat of a bad mark

for disciplinary purposes:

Example 5.16: Lesson Ica 2

Original script Translated script
105 T : …Dalma … pont az Áronnal meg kell <Dalma… do you need to discuss
valamit tárgyalni? something with Áron right now?>
106 S : nem <no>
107 T : hát akkor meg? Na majd kíváncsi <so what then? Well, I wonder if I say
vagyok hogyha ezt elmondom vagy this or translate this and ask it back,
lefordítom és utána visszakérdezem fogod- will you know what it was all about?...>
e tudni hogy miről volt szó…

The students need to pay attention all the time, as in theory they can be expected to give

answers for a mark, any time, and they often do not know what will be included in a

test later on. The following two pictures show some real tests. They were given to me

by Teacher Kati during one of my visits.

The first example is a vocabulary test. The students were given 20 verbs in

Hungarian. They had to write these verbs down, and then add their English translation,

with the past form and the past participle, for example ‗go‘, ‗went‘, ‗gone‘:

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Picture 5.1 Test 1 - Vocabulary test

The teacher corrected the test (in red), gave it a mark of 5. This is the best mark, and

with an extra star it means that it was perfect. The teacher also signed it in red. The blue

signature is the parent‘s.

The second example shows another type of test; here the teacher had dictated

six L1 sentences, and the students had to translate them into L2 sentences:

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Picture 5.2 Test 2 - Sentence translation from L1 to L2

The red correction is from the teacher, with the remark ‗4 mistakes‘ and the mark 4

with her signature. The blue signature is the parent‘s one, to acknowledge that s/he saw

it.

To be able to do these tests successfully, the students need to learn not only

English words, but irregular verbs (for example words like ‗go‘, ‗went‘, ‗gone‘),

grammar structures (for example ‗can‘ ‗I‘, ‗how much‘, ‗loudly‘) and grammatical rules

(for example ‗much‘, ‗many‘) as well as the spelling of each individual word. This

seems to be quite a difficult task for young children to achieve, so most of the students

would regularly spend a lot of time practising these words and expressions at home,

often with the help of an adult.

Marks are important, both for the teacher and the students. The parents know

how well the students have performed when they take home a test with a good or a bad

mark. Every month the monthly assessment also gives an idea of the student‘s

performance. And the final marks at the end of the student‘s primary career determine

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which secondary school the student can apply for. Marks are a big part of the life in

most Hungarian schools, and they exert a powerful pressure on both what happens in

classroom and how and why the students learn.

The following extract is from the interview with Teacher Piroska. She was

telling me how important marks and points are. (Sometimes teachers give red and black

points also, and 5 or 10 of them would make up a mark, for example five red points is a

mark 5).

Example 5.17: Interview with Teacher Piroska (turns 140-144)

T: well, how much they worked for the points, mm yes, this motivates them very
much or these children are very much centred around the points, around the
marks and plusses. Here it does not matter at all that they know it or they learn
it, only that I get mark 5 or 4 for it or mmm so unfortunately that is the case, not
the knowledge but the result, what is what is written in the progress book
(„tájékoztató füzet‟)
R: I think at home that is what shows
T: of course of course
R: so it is understandable
T: yes, at home their mother would ask: what mark did you get? Not how well do
you know the English but what is the mark…. They are not interested in the
grammar that they could not do the grammar part of the test, or they had a lot
of mistakes, and the test would not be better even if there was one more point
added to it, what I mean the mistakes are still in the test, okay, they would get a
better mark, but the er really it is very much like hunting for points, hunting for
marks…

When the school culture is built around marks, it is understandable that the students

should try very hard to get good marks. Teacher Piroska is concerned that her pupils are

not really interested in learning for its own sake, but they are only learning so they

would get good marks (mastery motive instead of intrinsic motive). The prospect of

good marks can of course motivate the students, and this can be beneficial. The

students may be more active, volunteer to work during the lessons, or at home they may

take more care over their homework.

There is another consideration when marks are given to young learners for both

written and oral performances, namely the mistakes and errors the learners make.

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There is a difference between error and mistake, but the present thesis does not have

space to discuss this in detail, only to point out that errors are systematic and are a

reflection of the state of interlanguage grammar and vocabulary, while mistakes are not

systematic and are the result of carelessness or lack of attention (Ellis, 1994). This

distinction is used in second or foreign learning contexts.

Mistakes are a natural part of children learning their first language (Bloom,

1970) cited in (Ellis, 1994: 47). Children learn their mother tongue by constantly trying

out what works and what does not work, while they are engaged in any meaningful

communication. But in foreign language classrooms, where perfect performance is

rewarded by a mark 5, as long as mistakes are thought to be bad and may be punished

with a bad mark, learners tend to be wary of being spontaneous or adventurous. This is

even more so if they are corrected.

The teachers in this study constantly corrected their students, expected them to

answer in full sentences, repeat the corrections and only ‗correct‘ sentences were

accepted during the lessons. This desire of the teachers to only allow correct sentences

inevitably influences communication between teacher and students. A question from

the teacher can never be only acknowledged by a nod from a student, but requires a

well formed answer, without any ‗mistakes‘.

When I visited Teacher Ica‘s Intermediate class the final time, at the end of the

lesson their teacher asked them to talk to me in English. The students, a short time

before, during the lesson, were able to answer their teacher‘s every question in perfect

sentences and could ask each other questions about their days, using the example

sentences in the textbook. When they were faced with me, the only questions they

could ask were sentences like: ‗What‘s your name? How old are you? Where are you

from? What‘s your favourite food?‘ Some of these questions had been already

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answered previously, for example, they knew my name and where I was from, some

were uncomfortable, for example, about my age, some were not very relevant, for

example about my favourite food. But they were all correctly asked, without any

mistakes. The students did not dare to make up their own questions. Also, when I asked

them unpredictable questions, they froze and did not say anything, and so any real

communication was very difficult to initiate and maintain.

5.2.5 Exams

Although most primary pupils in Hungary may not take foreign language exams during

the eight years of their studies, both national and international exams are very much in

the minds of their teachers. Many of them talked about exams in the interviews. The

exams can be divided into two main categories, monolingual and bilingual exams. In

the bilingual exam one requirement is to translate from the L2 to the L1, or from the L1

to the L2 or both, while in the monolingual exam only the L2 is used. The first one is

organised by the Hungarian Language Centre (Rigó utca), while the second one is

usually an international exam. The teachers will not know which type of exam their

students are going to take, so they may feel the pressure to try to prepare them for both

types. Teacher Marika shared with me her thoughts about it:

Example 5.18: Interview with Teacher Marika (turns 54-58)

T: …well, in the Hungarian language exams [the official modern foreign language
exams]…they really force this this translation to translate English into
Hungarian, but the style should be Hungarian style too, and so how how and
well, how unnecessary this is, is it not? Well, the important thing for the child is
to understand … they may not need to translate it to understand it, and but this
is still a kind of a question of life or death, in Rigó Street [the centre in Hungary
for the foreign language exams] I am not, I do not pay attention to this at all.
Sometimes I give kind of give something to translate, okay, work at home,
somebody could help them, and I will give a mark for it, they get good marks for
this you see ((laughs)) but no (2.0) no I do not usually do this (3.0)…

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Teacher Marika knows that it is possible to understand L2 sentences without translating

them, and with L2 comprehension questions she can check how well the students

understand the text. But it is also clear that the state examination still puts a lot of

emphasis on translation. If her students later on want to take the exam they need to be

prepared for it. Teacher Marika gives some opportunity for practising translation, even

though she does not believe that it is necessary or useful.

This shows clearly that sometimes the teachers do things against their beliefs, to

try to fulfil outside expectations. Real or imagined pressures from the exams or tests

can act as very powerful forces, as the teachers would be judged on how well their

students performed in the exams. And it is not just the translation from one language to

the other that may make it difficult for the teachers to decide how to teach. Many exams

contain questions about the grammar of the L2, either explicitly or implicitly, by

exercises where the correct use of the grammatical structures is also tested.

All teachers in this study talked extensively about teaching grammar. They

often struggle with it, and the reasons behind this will be discussed in the second part of

this chapter, under the heading Constraints (see page 234).

Here I would like to show what the teachers believe they need to teach, if the

pupils are to pass written exams and tests, and how this has a washback effect on what

they actually do during the lessons. One of the differences between the Hungarian and

the English language is the use of verb tenses. As Hungarian has only 3 tenses, past,

present and future while English has many more verb forms, teaching them often

becomes a central question for the teachers. The following interview shows how

Teacher Kati thinks about knowing the grammar of the new language:

Example 5.19: Interview with Teacher Kati (turn 111)

T: Our students in Primary 8 do know the grammar and we also give them a huge
vocabulary … and so they can use the language, the ones who attended the
specialised programme ((five lessons per week)). I do not say that all of them

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 know the present perfect tense perfectly, not even the specialised groups, but
even in primary 7 they can distinguish between the the 6 or 7 verb tenses I am
sure about that. 2 present tenses, 2 past tenses, 2 future tenses, the „going to‟
and‟ to be to‟ and the present continuous tense as a future tense for example the
(xxxx xxxx), and the present perfect, present perfect continuous and past perfect
tense, they all know these in primary 7.

Because of the big difference between the two language systems, teaching and learning

the above mentioned verb-forms takes a lot of hard work. Teacher Piroska explained to

me that they have to be practised a lot, even if this is a difficult and boring exercise for

both the teacher and the pupils:

Example 5.20: Interview with Teacher Piroska (turns 46-50)

T: well, there are there are some lessons, that are really boring, when we have to
practise it. For example the present continuous tense, how I will make them to
practise it, I will bring exercises and so let us do it, exercise 1, first sentence,
here you are, read it, do it and explain why. Second exercise, well these are a
bit boring lessons but that is needed too
R: is it for practising grammar?
T: yes, that is correct, for grammar
R: and do you make up these exercises?
T: no, there are different we have different exercise books, and books, the „Murphy
English Grammar‟ from this one we get very good ones, and also there are so
many books there, I always choose…

It is easy to imagine how boring it can be to practise the present continuous tense for

example. First of all, Hungarian does not have a similar structure, so it needs to be

explained. (The Hungarian language can also express the idea of something is

happening right now, but it does not do it with a verb tense, but with other words,

referring to the action happening right now. For example ‗I am reading‘ would

translate: ‗Right now I read‘. (‗Olvasok‘.)

After the explicit explanation, the practising starts, usually with the teacher

giving the L1 sentences, one after another, and the pupils translate them into the L2,

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either orally or in writing. Mistakes, for example: ‗I going home now‘, ‗I am go home‘,

‗I don‘t going home‘ are constantly corrected and the sentences are drilled into the

students. This demonstrates the teachers‘ belief in the behaviourist approach. This point

will be considered further in Chapter Six, page 255.

Different grammatical structures or rules were practised during the lessons I

observed. The emphasis was on giving the correct answers to the questions. The

grammar the intermediate students were asked to learn was for this reason much more

complex, including irregular verbs, questions and negatives in the past sentences. The

elementary students were learning only the present simple and the present continuous

tense. Still, during the interviews all of the teachers talked a lot about the difficulties,

showing that any kind of grammar teaching at this age can be very challenging. Even

those grammatical structures that are considered easy, for example the present

continuous tense could be very difficult for children to learn consciously and to be able

to use correctly.

Teacher Kati, who was teaching both elementary and intermediate students in

Grade 4 (the elementary students being the slow ones, with only 3 lessons per week)

told me after one of the lessons that she cannot teach grammar to the weak students,

because they would not understand, so she only teaches useful, everyday things, like

finding their way around a town, or shopping or talking about themselves. Teacher Kati

believed this to be a less important and less useful thing than learning all the grammar.

The ones who could only learn to make conversation were thought to be the losers (see

also Chapter Six, page 255).

It is understandable why this may be a belief. Nobody can get a university

degree in Hungary without passing a language proficiency exam (the state intermediate-

level exam or an equivalent one). Many of these exams contain written grammar

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questions. Also, although many job descriptions ask for usable English knowledge,

others still insist on the piece of paper from the examination board to prove the

language knowledge.

There is another pressure at the present time which affects mainly the teachers

of the intermediate level students. Many parents want their children to go to a bilingual

secondary school. These schools are usually so much sought after that, according to

teacher Kati, there could be up to 20 times more applicants than the number of places

available. These schools often use entry tests to determine who to admit and some may

have written and oral English tests. Each school designs its own test or use a centrally

developed one, and as these are usually available from previous years, if the teacher

knows which school her/his students are interested in, it is possible to practise similar

questions in the hope of some preparation. I have been shown some previous years‘

exam papers from the secondary schools by Teacher Kati, and was told that she used

them to practise for the exam with the children.

To sum up the findings about the washback effect of the exam: it seems that

having the written exams as the final assessment influences the way teachers teach,

even if this is not going to happen for another eight-ten years. If they believe that

certain skills are going to be tested, for example translation, communication,

knowledge of words, they are most likely to try to train their students in these skills. If

there are conflicting aims, the teachers can chose to ignore some or try to incorporate

them into their teaching. It seems that the teachers I interviewed found teaching

grammar explicitly one of the most demanding things, and developed different

strategies to cope with it.

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5.2.6 Parents

Parents often play an important role in the life of the schools. Schools try to show how

well they teach, and one of the prestigious subjects is English. Parents can come in to

see their children about once a semester, and this can influence their children‘s

behaviour and performance, as Teacher Ica told me:

Example 5.21: Interview with Teacher Ica (turn 79)

T: … all the others they did behave the same way they usually behave, I am a bit
surprised about this a bit as I just had a similar lesson where somebody was
visiting, it was for the parents to see that the children are not stupid, because
some parents think they think that their child is totally stupid because at home if
they do not speak or do not know something or do not remember at once then it
is that the child knows nothing, that is how the parents think … some who are
not usually active and they were active then, and there were some who are
usually active and they were not, they were frightened, because they had their
mums there…

A question has to be asked here: Why do the teachers need to prove that ‗the children

are not stupid‘ to the parents? The same children already get marks at least once a

month, but usually much more frequently (sometimes as often as once a week). There

are also parents‘ evenings, when the concerned parents could come and talk to the

teachers about their children. So why do they need to see the class and the teaching

itself? One of the reasons is that often parents are involved at home with the homework

the children get day by day. The parents often practise with their children the texts and

songs that need to be memorised, the words that need to be learned. So the parents

know that the children are learning words and sentences, but as the teacher said ―at

home if they do not speak or do not know something or do not remember at once” they

are thought to be stupid. During the lesson the parents can see that their children not

only know words and sentences, but they can interact. Talking to the teacher and each

other, understanding questions, instructions, being able to read and write, all signal that

they have learned the language.

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 This is very important, because parents, especially those whose children attend

an early language program, want their children to achieve, knowing that later in life,

English will become very useful, for different reasons. One is to be able to

communicate, to get a job abroad, or with a foreign company. The other more pressing

aim is to get to a good secondary school. Many parents want their children to get to a

bilingual secondary school, to be able to learn English as much as possible. To achieve

this aim, as I have explained previously, an exam needs to be passed. Many parents also

pay money for a private tutor to teach the child outside school, to give as much

opportunity for learning the language as possible.

Getting to a good secondary school is very important, and so primary education

is considered a step to achieve this aim. And because entry to the good schools is very

competitive, a good teacher and teaching method is essential. The parent can take their

children to another school any time, even during the school year, if they feel the need

for this. This in itself is a great threat, especially because the number of primary age

pupils is falling, and schools are closing down. A good English teacher can in some

cases save a whole school by attracting students into the classes. Of course these

teachers would do almost anything to be considered ‗good teachers‘.

This again influences the classroom practice, how much homework is given,

what kind of tests are required, what marks are achieved. If the students cannot speak

fluently after a few months (or even years) of study, the parents need to see for

themselves that there is some kind of progress. Letting them visit the classes adds a

further pressure on the teachers, who are already trying to conform to so many different

requirements.

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5.2.7 School authorities

The performance of the students is recorded in the marks which they are given. The

teacher tends to label a group or class as ‗good‘ ones with good marks, and difficult

ones with bad marks. The school authorities‘ judgement is coloured by how well the

teachers teach and how well individual students and groups and classes perform mostly

from the marks they receive and from the final marks at the end of the year.

I had a brief conversation with one of the head teachers (where Marika and

Piroska teach). She was interested in my research and asked me to go into her office

and tell her about it. After the more detailed explanation, when she had already had a

brief one when I had asked to let me visit her school, she explained to me that English

had become a very important subject for schools. The situation in her school was that

some of her Russian teachers trained to teach English, while others chose German

around 1990. She explained that this was all right to begin with, but recently all the

parents wanted their children to learn English, not German. This caused a lot of

problems, and her solution is to offer an extra subject (computer skills, swimming,

sports) so students would continue to want to start Grade 1 in her school. Then she had

had to divide the first grade students into two groups, almost by chance, one to learn

German and the other to learn English. Many parents were trying to pull strings to get

their children to the English classes.

To cater for the needs of the classes who cannot learn English during the official

school hours, the English teachers provide afternoon classes, or clubs. This adds to the

already very high numbers of hours they have to teach (usually 6 or 7 lessons per day,

lasting 45 minutes each in different classes.) The pressure is high, competition with

other schools is strong, and what is at stake may be the closure of the school if there are

not enough students.

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 In a context like this what is happening during the English lessons can have

much wider consequences. The proof that the teaching is good, again, is passing exams,

getting into good secondary schools after Grade 8. I have suggested that the results

achieved in English by the children are very important. This is apparent from the year

books published by the schools. Many schools publish an annual booklet, introducing

their school, their program, with the successes. School Kékes in year 2004-2005 (Nagy,

2005) has all the results of all the competitions from every subject. The first to be

mentioned is the foreign language results, starting with a student who was selected to

get to the competition from the district to the town competition. All the other

competitions, including Hungarian ‗Speaking Beautifully‘ competition, with a student

achieving results that would let her get to the country competition comes after the

success in the English language results (Nagy, 2004). These results are available for

any interested parents. It shows that the English language results are one of the main

concerns of the school, and this seems to be the best insurance to get students enrolling

into Grade 1 for the next school year.

After discussing the teachers, parents and the authorities, finally I would like to

show that there are pressures from the students themselves.

5.2.8 Student expectations

The students themselves have little real need to learn English at that point in their lives.

Apart from the pop songs and some computer games they usually do not use English

outside the lessons. Their greatest interest in the language is to get good marks. They

know that they will be praised for this at home. Most of the students are willing to work

hard for marks, learning by heart, doing tests, being active during the lesson. Students

in Hungarian primary classrooms are usually trained to sit quietly, listen to the teacher

and not to talk unless permission is given. One extra difficulty during the English

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lessons is that even if the student is allowed to speak, they usually required to do this in

the L2, making communication difficult, especially for the beginners.

Teacher Piroska explained that good topics are motivating and the students

would like to express themselves, but in the L2 they find this still very difficult:

Example 5.22: Interview with Teacher Piroska (turns 254-256)

T: … it often happens during my lessons, that I kind of go off the topic, wow, into a
false line, they know it so well, they at once start to participate, and you know
they go on and on, their own pleasure, and all the information, about
everything, and they love talking about something else, I can hardly turn them
back…. If I am a bit less strict, they do it, …They are so keen, and if they can
speak Hungarian, if they do not have to speak English, in Hungarian they are
more secure, they can speak about anything
R: and in English?
T: no, no, no, it is more difficult, it is difficult for them to express themselves, their
thoughts, and they find it difficult to say what they want to say

The teacher is in a very difficult situation, on the one hand she would like to make the

lesson interesting, but on the other hand she wants the students to use the L2. Teacher

Piroska says that she has to be strict, and she does not allow her students to chat in the

L1. Every teacher would like her/his students to enjoy the lessons, but of course

restrictions are needed during any lesson. Here the extra difficulty is not to allow

students to use their L1, but to help them to communicate their ideas is indeed a big

pressure.

In the lessons I observed I found a few different methods that the teachers use to

try to deal with this difficulty. Some were strict and used the L2 most of the time, not

allowing any L1 chat, while other teachers who also used the L2 a lot took a few

minutes to allow the students to let off steam, and talk in the L1. Some others, who did

not use the L2 much either let the students chat or not. As the language of the lesson

was in the L1, this did not affect the students so much.

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 The first part of this chapter sketched out the pressures that may influence the

language teachers in the Hungarian primary classrooms. The following section focuses

on the constraints, showing how some factors may prevent the teachers from teaching

in the way that is expected of them, or in the way they would want to teach.

5.3 Constraints
In Chapter Two a summary was given about second language acquisition theories and

empirical studies, including young learners learning in the foreign language classroom.

These young learners are in a monolingual class and outside the classroom they have

little or no L2 input. They need space and time during the week and over the weeks to

learn the language. The class also needs resources and a teacher who is confident and

proficient in the L2. Also, what they learn and how they learn it affects their

motivation.

In order to evaluate the effectiveness of the lessons I observed, it is helpful to

have an understanding of what is assumed to be an ideal setting for early foreign

language learning. A systematic analysis of the basic factors showed that although

many factors are fulfilling the needs, there are some constraints that either make it more

difficult or indeed prevent the students from learning as much as they could and/or

make the teachers‘ work more difficult. First of all, those factors that promote language

learning in these classrooms need to be mentioned here, as I believe that both the

schools and the teachers tried to do their best to make the language learning a success.

All the schools I visited had full-time trained language teachers. They start to

teach their students at the recommended age (9 or even earlier), and usually have only

about half of the whole class for English language lessons. This is to make it possible

to have smaller groups, with usually about 15 children in a group. All the schools have

libraries with extra books like grammar books, and at least a tape recorder; some have

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video players. The teachers have access to photocopiers and can use their own material

and tests if they wish to. All students have their own course book, exercise books and

vocabulary books. The rules for the marks and assessment are clearly established:

words and grammar rules have to be learned, homework has to be done, and texts have

to be memorised by heart.

This second part of the analysis in this chapter shows examples from the

classroom data and uses explanations from the interviews with the teachers to

investigate what the constraining factors are and how they influence classroom

teaching, communication, and the use of the L1. The first three factors that appear to

have some negative effect on some of the researched classrooms are related to the

context, the provision of the school for language teaching: space, resources and time.

5.3.1 Learning space

Young children find it difficult to sit in one place for 45 minutes. This may be even

truer in language classrooms, where often there is much less writing and exercises than

in some other lessons. The conventional wisdom among second language

methodologists is that learning should be active, with a focus on physical movement,

games, and other activities which promote active learning.

Although both the teachers‘ training and the teachers‘ handbooks suggest as

much movement as possible, in some of the classrooms I visited, there was scarcely

room to stand up, let alone move around. Some of the places where English lessons

were taught were so small that it was difficult for the students to even get to the board

one at a time. The reason for this is because the schools are trying to provide small

group language teaching, based on the idea that it is more difficult to teach

communicatively in larger classes. This causes problems with classroom provision,

making it necessary to teach in every available space, for example store rooms that are

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changed into classrooms, other classrooms empty while the students are at the gym.

These classrooms are often not designed with movable chairs, or with enough space to

get up, move around, and play games.

Picture 5.3 Classroom with fixed desks and little space to move around

Teacher Marika told me that teaching in a small classroom means she cannot do some

of the activities she otherwise would do, for example getting the students to stand up

and act out something:

Example 5.23: Interview with Teacher Marika (turns 90-94)

T: there is no space to move, one student stands up and comes to the board and the
other student is in the way, I really do not like this, I do not like to be in a
narrow place anyway … for example to act out a situation it is not not really
possible here, unfortunately I am more than once in this classroom with this
class (1.0) so I do not I do not really like this … and unfortunately in our school
there are fewer classrooms than there are classes, we are lucky that we have a
swimming pool so we can organise this a bit

One other problem may be that if students are moving around in the classroom, talking

and jumping up and down, this may be considered undisciplined by many other

teachers and heads. So even if there was enough space (as for Teacher Hajni‘s lessons)

the students who are used to sitting quietly during other L1 lessons, need to be trained

to play or act in an acceptable manner.

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 Some of the teachers who had the smallest classroom, full of students (teachers

Marika and Piroska), still managed to make them move around, while some of those

who had a big classroom only half full of students did not move the students at all. This

will be referred to later on, in the third part of the qualitative analysis, when successful

teaching strategies will be discussed. Still, the smaller the classroom is, the more

difficult it is for the teachers to get the students to stand up and move. This is indeed a

constraint, but only in cases where the teacher would want to move them around. The

next constraint discussed is the lack of resources in some of the classes.

5.3.2 Lack of resources

Some of the intermediate classrooms, especially those used by teachers Kati and Ica,

had really good resources, for example a VCR, a DVD player, a library with L2 books,

tapes and posters. The other classes had much less, with some teachers having only a

portable audio cassette player, usually an old one, and the cassettes for the course

books. In the classrooms there were no toys or other materials that could be used for

practising some skills, like play money or plastic food. Some teachers borrowed books

from the British Council library. Teacher Hajni for example was teaching Winnie the

Witch from a book, which she had borrowed from the British Council. The classes I

visited did not do activities with any objects, except the ones that were supplied

together with the course books. Nor did they play games with other supplementary

materials. It is difficult to generalise from seeing only a few lessons, but it seems that

what kind of activities the classes use may depend on the resources (or the lack of

them). It may also depend on the teacher‘s preferred way of teaching, and the time

available to deal with the course book and to introduce new activities. The next

constraint I investigate is the time that is available for different activities.

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5.3.3 Lack of time

The amount of time devoted to learning a language does indeed influence the results. It

is suggested that frequent short lessons (for example 15 minutes every day) are better

than fewer long ones (two hours but only twice a week) (Johnstone, 2002).

The elementary classes had three lessons per week, while the intermediate ones

had five. This is a substantial difference, especially as each lesson lasts 45 minutes, so

the intermediate students had 90 minutes extra language learning per week. One might

expect that with this extra time there would be more opportunity for the students to use

the language and communicate. Unfortunately the more time there is the more material

the teachers try to teach. Teacher Ica, an intermediate teacher, talked about the time

constraint and how this affected her teaching:

Example 5.24: Interview with Teacher Ica (turn 116)

T: Well, (1.0) the problem is we do not have time to wait for somebody to ask a
silly real question [in the L2]. It takes a lot of time, it is useless, we have to
wait…

The time constraint may be real or only perceived, a few seconds waiting may not be a

disaster, but what this teacher says also reveals how she feels about ‗real‘ (‗valódi‘)

questions. These ‗real‘ questions would be the questions the students would want to

ask, not the questions they are practising. Teacher Ica labels them as ‗useless‘

(‗haszontalan‘). If they are useless, they are discouraged; these questions are not part of

the aim, so it is not necessary for the students to ask anything ‗real‘ in the L2, but only

to practise the questions they are supposed to use, or answer these questions correctly.

On the other hand, none of the teacher‘s questions can be labelled ‗useless‘, even if the

answers are obvious. For example, a teacher can simply ask any student as many times

as she wishes: ―What‘s your name?‖ during these language lessons, knowing exactly

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what the student‘s name is from the beginning. The ‗usefulness‘ of this question is clear

to all participants: practising answering.

The teacher‘s aim with the verbal exercises is to teach the pupils to be able to

answer as quickly as possible, with the correct form and pronunciation. The following

example shows a typical exchange between the teacher and a student, where the teacher

provides very little thinking time for the student before help or correction is given. In

the data usually between 1-3 seconds was waited for any answer (see also Ellis, 1994 :

589 on waiting time).

Example 5.25 Lesson Kati 4 Teacher waits only 3 seconds before helping
104. T : … What‘s your town?
105. S : mm my (3.0) my (1.0)
106. T : Town
107. S : my town
108. T : Is
109. S : Budapest
110. T : is Budapest that‘s right …

―What‘s your town?‖ in turn 104 was an obvious eliciting question. The teacher

already knew the answer to the question, as all the students live in Budapest. The

teacher was expecting a well formulated answer, the student saying ―My town is

Budapest.‖ The example shows that the student started to answer at once, but was not

able to continue after the first word. After three seconds the teacher provides the next

word ―town‖ (turn 106). The student repeated not only this word, but also the beginning

of the sentence. The teacher did not even wait for the attempt of the student to produce

the correct next word of the required sentence (turn 108), but provided the word ―is‖,

knowing that this might be a difficult word to remember, as Hungarian does not use the

same structure. The Hungarian sentence for example: ‗Budapest a városom‘ is made up:

‗Budapest‘ ‗the‘ ‗town + suffix my‘ (see more about the difference of L1 and L2 on

page 230).

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 The notion of what is a ‗useful‘ or a ‗useless‘ question is of course a judgement

which will vary from one teacher to another. But the teachers know what kinds of

questions may be asked at the entry exam for the secondary schools as well as at the

exams later on. At the same time the curriculum itself gives guidelines about the kind

of conversations that are expected to go on in these classrooms. Time is needed to learn

and practise these questions and answers, making other communication (even in the L2)

at the best, accepted, or at the worst, regarded as a waste of time.

The aims of the teachers determine what happens and how it happens. How

much time is given for learning is perceived from the possible outcome. If what

happens in an activity is perceived as useful, with regard to the overall aim, then the

teachers probably reckon that the time was used well. But if an incident during an

activity does not seem to add to the overall learning objective, then it would be

regarded as a waste of time. Any attempt to get the students to use the L2 for real

communication is made very difficult, if certain topics, or questions, grammar,

vocabulary are thought to be a waste of time, or not yet to be learned, by their teachers.

The situation is made even more difficult, because naturally the students would want to

communicate in their L1. The next constraint I am going to investigate is the fact that

the class is a monolingual class.

5.3.4 The monolingual class

As I have established previously, in Hungary there is not a lot of opportunity outside

the English language lessons to practise the language. Those teachers who teach the

intermediate classes know that their students have probably learned a lot of vocabulary

and grammar and memorised many texts, but the opportunities for them to take part in

real communication in English are minimal. Teacher Piroska thought that a native

speaking extra teacher could help with this problem best:

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 Example 5.26: Interview with Teacher Piroska (turns 258, 265-268)
T: …it would be so good for the communication; it would be so good to have a
native speaker, wow…. … yes, one lesson (per week) with a native speaker, I
would not mind what they do, just speak, they would not need to learn anything,
forget the books, just try to make themselves understood with a foreigner.
R: have you tried this? To make them understand you? Or they know that
T: yeah, they know if they say a word or two in Hungarian I would know what they
want, and so on, but with a stranger this would not work, they would just look at
them and until their face light up until they understand it, what they wanted
R: yeah, like being abroad
T: sure, it would be really good, wow, how good this would be, but I do not think

This is one of the basic constraints in any modern foreign language classroom; when

the teacher and the students share a common mother tongue it is always an effort to try

to communicate using the target language that is being learned. Although it would be

useful for the pupils to talk to native speakers, most state primary schools in Hungary

would not have the resources to employ one. But their teacher could provide

opportunities for using the L2 communicatively. This will also be discussed further in

Chapter Six, page 255.

Another factor which acts as a constraint on the teacher‘s behaviour is the

confidence which the teacher has in using the target language.

5.3.5 The teacher‟s ability

All of the teachers I visited were very competent speakers of English. They had

received at least two years training in the language and how to teach it, or were about to

finish the training during the year of the final data collection. Some had extensive

knowledge of the English language. For example Teacher Kati was trained at a

university and Teacher Gizi had lived in Britain for several years previously.

Perceived lack of proficiency

Some teachers, especially Teacher Marika, worried about their performance in the L2.

The main reason seemed to be insecurity over their pronunciation of the language.

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Teacher Marika explained to me that she uses the cassette of the course book to teach

good pronunciation:

Example 5.27: Interview with Teacher Marika (turn 10)

T … we started at the beginning you know as we listened to the text and mm
sentence by sentence, consciously, mmm sentence by sentence we repeated them
mm I made them repeat the text because on the one hand it is a very long text
(2.0) on the other hand (2.0) we started yesterday to practise this, that we had
marked where the stress is, what they say differently, so well, I try to make them
practise the pronunciation, the good pronunciation, because my pronunciation
is not really good, as I am not British, so only mm just the cassette I can only
trust the cassette

One common technique which is used to overcome insecurities about pronunciation is

to teach the texts sentence by sentence while listening to the tape of native speakers

who read it or act it out. As the final aim is that the children should learn the text by

heart, this method seems to help in different ways. The students can identify with the

characters and their voices, they can hear native speakers, and there are also sound

effects that make the text more interesting. The students can also buy their own copy of

the cassette with the course books, and listen to them at home as often as they wish.

There are also exercises on the tapes, along with songs and rhymes, and if the children

enjoy listening to them this could help their learning.

The danger of using the tapes can be that the teacher sees the tape as the only

way to present the new language and the exercises. If, for example, a teacher thinks that

her pronunciation is not good enough, she may prefer the safe native utterances from

the tape to her talking to her students, reading a story to them or singing a song that is

not on the tape. This could influence the conduct of the whole lesson, where the text

becomes the focus of the lesson, and any other L2 use is only secondary.

This was not the case with Teacher Marika, who read a story in the L2, used

games and talked in the L2 during her lessons. But if even she was worried about her

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good pronunciation, maybe those teachers who hardly used the L2 for classroom

communication were even more worried.

Lack of proficiency

Some teachers used the L2 with some mistakes. The following part is going to show

some errors and discuss the possible implications.

It has to be emphasised here again that all the teachers in this study were

competent L2 users. To look into some of the mistakes they made is not to show them

in a bad light, but indeed, the opposite. The data from the lesson transcripts showed that

the teachers made very few mistakes. The mistakes that were present were usually

minor pronunciation mistakes, or leaving out some short words, for example ‗and‘, ‗is‘,

where Hungarian language would not have these. One of the mistakes that was most

noticeable, partly because this sentence was very often used by the different teachers,

was when they were asking for the meaning of a word or a sentence. The following

example shows Teacher Hajni asking for the meaning of the word ‗whiskers‘.

Example 5.28: Lesson Hajni 2

Original script
32 T : …toes legs body eyes nose head and whiskers.
What does it mean whiskers? Who knows?
33 S : kutyakaja <dog food>
34 T : No

Many teachers used the structure as Teacher Hajni used it in turn 32 in the above

example: ―What does it mean whiskers?‖ They would ask the sentence ―What does it

mean?‖ and then add to this either an English or sometimes a Hungarian word, like here

‗whiskers‘. There can be different reasons why the teachers kept making this particular

mistake. One is because of the difference between the two languages (see page 230).

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 In Hungarian, asking for the meaning of the word is by asking the question first,

then putting the word in question at the end: for example: ―Hogy mondod angolul azt,

hogy kutya?‖ (‗How do you say it in English, dog?‘). It is possible that the mother

tongue is influencing the use of the L2 by the use, but there may be another explanation

too. These teachers have acquired a wide range of vocabulary and learned many

expressions in the L2. They used English correctly most of the time. The reason for

using this particular expression seems to be something different. All language teachers

modify their speech in the classroom. They use different strategies, from simplification

to gestures. The example of asking for the meaning of a new word in this particular way

resembles the L1 way, and also putting the word in question at the end of the sentence

helps the students to focus on the word itself. ―What does ‗dog‘ mean?‖ This would be

a question that in English would need an explanation, such as ‗a mammal‘, ‗with four

legs which barks‘. The students at their stage of learning may find it very difficult to

define a word in the L2 if they were not shown how to do this and did not practise it.

What they can do is translate the word, make sense of the sentence and learn the words

and sentences. The teachers try to do everything to help them, including the

modification of sentence structure.

Finally, here is an example which shows that if the teacher is willing to

communicate in the L2, even complex instructions and information can be understood,

with some extra help, including the use of the L1:

Example 5.29: Lesson Piroska 2

Original script Translated script
328 T : … now please look at the board! You … now please look at the board! You
don‘t have to write. most nem kell írni don‘t have to write <no need to write
look at the board! Zsanett please look at now> look at the board! Zsanett please
the board! There are eight cards on the look at the board! There are eight cards
board and on the other side of the cards on the board and on the other side of the
there are one word there is only one cards there are one word there is only
word. You have to say correct English one word. You have to say correct
sentence containing this word. If the English sentence containing this word.

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 sentence is correct you get one point. If the sentence is correct you get one
Okay. What is your task János? What is point. Okay. What is your task János?
your task? Aha What is your task? aha
329 S : megnézni a kártyát és egy mondatot <to look at the card and say a
mondani sentence>
330 T : egy helyes mondatot, az a lényeg. Jó. <a correct sentence, that is important.
Correct sentence. Okay Good.> Correct sentence. Okay

Teacher Piroska is willing to use the L2 for giving information, instruction and asking

questions. She has been teaching her class for 4 years and the students are used to her

speaking in English. Simple instructions that are familiar to the students were given

only in the L2 during her lessons.

The teacher made one grammatical mistake; in turn 328 she said “You have to

say correct English sentence containing this word”, instead of “a correct English

sentence‖. This did not influence the successful communication, although the aim was

to explain a form-focused task, not to communicate. The next difficulty to be discussed

is one which faces both the teacher and the pupils, namely the difference between the

Hungarian and the English language.

5.3.6 Difference between L1 and L2

One important constraint is the difference between the two languages. Hungarian

belongs to the Finno-Ugric Indo-European language family, which is not related to the

Germanic language family, where the English language belongs. Hungarian is an

agglutinative language, with many differences from English, for example, no gender-

marking in the pronoun system.

Language awareness

Children are naturally curious and at this age still interested to find out the rules and the

meanings for themselves. Usually, during the lessons that I observed, the children

followed the rules of the classroom, and only spoke when they were given permission

to do so; they asked very few ‗real‘ questions and overall behaved in a passive,

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learning, recipient way. There were only a few examples during the lessons when the

students showed their creativity and tried to use their L1 knowledge to make sense of

the L2, rather than only rely on the given rules. The following example shows a great

moment of real thinking, from a little boy, during lesson Ica 2.

The picture below shows the text the class was working on during the lesson.

The teacher chose this particular story because the class was practising the past tense

and the story has lots of verbs in the past tense.

The book that the text is from has a Hungarian author (Nagy, 1999) and the

unusual thing about the text is that it has a few words, marked with * in the body of the

text that has the Hungarian translation, at the bottom of the page. This is unlike the

usual textbook, Chatterbox, which has L2 text exclusively. The words that are given a

translation are: ‗greedy‘, ‗butcher‘, ‗stole‘, ‗bone‘, ‗stream‘, ‗shadow‘, ‗stone‘,

‗dropped‘, ‗lost‘ and ‗hungry‘.

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 Picture 5.4 Page from textbook with the word „shadow‟

The class was reading and translating the text, sentence by sentence, and got to the

sentence: ‗He could see his own shadow in the water‘ when the incident that is being

discussed happened. The following example shows the conversation between the

teacher and the students:

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 Example 5.30: Lesson Ica 2
Original text Translated text
94 T : …yes he could see his own shadow in the … yes he could see his own shadow in
water the water
a „shadow‘ az meg van adva <the> „shadow‘ <is given>
95. S : árnyékot <shadow>
96. T : Igy van. Árnyékot is jelent de itt most <That‟s right. It means shadow too, but
nem azt jelenti hanem a tükörkép. Igy here it does not mean shadow but
van tehát hogy látta a saját tükörképét a reflection. That‟s right. So, he saw his
hol? own reflection where?>
97. Ss : vízben <in the water>
98. T : vízben így van <in the water, that‟s right>
99. S : csak egy kérdés hogy az „ék‟ az mit <only one question: what does ‘wedge‟
jelent? mean?>
100. T : nem érdekes nyuszikám ezzel nem it is not interesting, my little rabbit, you
foglalkoz okay ezzel foglalkozok, jó? He are not dealing with this, you are dealing
thought it was another dog with a big bone with this ( text) right?> He thought it was
in his mouth tehát mit gondolt hogy mi another dog with a big bone in his mouth
volt az? <so what did he think it was?>

In turn 99 a student asks a very creative question. We can see from the transcript that

the student came up with a seemingly unrelated question, in the middle of the

translation of the sentence about the dog. To be able to understand why he suddenly

wanted to know the meaning of the word ‗ék‘ <wedge>, a bit of explanation is needed.

At the bottom of the text two meanings are provided for the word ‗shadow‘. It is

said that shadow means either ‗tükörkép‘ <reflection> or ‘árnyék‘ <shadow>. Both

Hungarian words seems to be compound words: ‗reflection‘ (‗tükörkép‘) is made up of

two words: ‗glass‘ and ‗picture‘, and ‗shadow‘ (árnyék) seems to be made up of the

words ‗shade‘ (árny) and a suffix meaning also ‗wedge‘ (ék).

The student in turn 99 asks about the word: ‗wedge‘, as he realizes that it also

has some separate meaning ‗wedge‘ (ék) and wonders how this is related to ‗shade‘

(árny). He must be asking the question because he is reflecting on the two languages.

When this incident happened I was in the classroom as a researcher, with plenty of

time, sitting at the back of the class, letting the tape-recorder work for me. When the

boy asked the question about a word seemingly so unconnected to the lesson, I was

very interested at once, and looking at the page with the translation, finally figured out

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the (most likely) reason for the question. The teacher, on the other hand, dismissed the

whole question, without a second thought.

It is understandable that in the middle of an activity, a seemingly silly question

disturbs the flow of the moment, and so not responding to every strange question is

probably the only way to conduct a lesson and achieve the aims. But this particular

question was a very good, very observant one. Had the teacher recognised what was

happening, she could have had a few minutes comparing L1 and L2 words. This might

have had to be done in the L1, at least partly, but the class was already using the L1 for

translation and explanation.

Explicit grammar teaching

To be able to explain every word and structure to young learners is indeed a difficult

task. As the Hungarian and English languages are very different, teachers find it

difficult to teach such young learners, especially those items that are so different, like

telling the time, the prepositions or the verb tenses. Here are two extracts from

interviews with two other teachers. In the first example Teacher Gizi talks about the

difficulty in teaching the clock and the time using the analogue clock, not the digital

clock which would have been easier.

Example 5.31: Interview with Teacher Gizi (turns 27-29)

T: and when we finished with the past tense, that was when we moved onto the
future tense, the exercise I asked them to do, by the way it was homework, that
was that they had to do at home, and so we just checked it. What is not that easy
for them, but it is problematic for every class, is the time. They always have
problems with „half past‟ and „half to‟, and „quarter past‟ and it needs that
much to be that time, that ones are a bit not very very easy.
R: mmm
T: but this is not just about them, but for everybody, as the way Hungarians say the
time is totally different, not totally but that that mixes up their little brain, they
do not know it so well that where they are at. To be honest, the problem here
was not the future tense…

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Teacher Hajni, in the next example, points out that there are other differences between

the languages that also make it difficult for the learners to remember:

Example 5.32: Interview with Teacher Hajni (turns 107-109)

T: for example, if the task is very easy, for example this was new material. So this
one mmm mmm well, she managed it only, because that „in the door‟ and „at the
door‟ that is that is difficult too,
R: yes, I noticed (xxxx xxxx)
T: this is difficult too, because this is different for the Hungarian too, or for
example „at the school‟ or „in the school” this is so difficult, well we teach this
for the older ones, or play with this, so this is difficult because I say in the
school (3.0) and there if I say one of them it is about the institute, and the other
is the building itself, well, this is difficult the Hungarian in the Hungarian it is
not the same

As can be seen from the above interviews, in the teachers‘ view the language difference

does pose a considerable difficulty. As this factor is a given by nature, all teachers face

the same problems when trying to teach English to Hungarians, but some do find a way.

An extra difficulty is present when the learners are young children, as they most likely

find explicit grammatical rules very difficult to grasp and even more difficult to apply.

This is one of the reasons why it is not advisable to teach them this way.

5.3.7 Textbooks

The next constraint to be investigated is how using course books influences the

discourse in the classrooms. In the previous section, under the heading ‗Pressures‘ I

have already discussed the course books (see page 196). Here, I would like to mention

them again, showing how they may also hinder real communication, depending on how

the teacher uses them and mediates between the L2 texts and the students.

In the classes I visited the written text was often translated sentence by

sentence. Usually the cassette was played sentence by sentence, then the teacher

nominated students to read a sentence each and translate it. The following example

shows a typical exchange. The text read from the book is underlined

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 Example 5.33 Lesson Marika 2
Original script Translated script
…can you help please ? … can you help please ?
kérem segítsen <please help>
129 T :
okay go on okay go on
Yes, I can help you Yes, I can help you
130. S : igen segítünk segítek neked <yes we help I help you>
131. T : segíthetek neked <I can help you>
come with me come with me
132. S : gyere velem <come with me>

In turn 129 the teacher reads the sentence from the text book, and then she translates it.

Next she instructs a student to continue and reads the following sentence. The student

in turn 130 gives the L1 translation. The teacher gives feedback with a slight correction,

in turn 131, before reading the next sentence in the L2. The sentence then to be

translated is ‗Come with me!‘ and this is a very good starting point for the argument

about how using written texts influences the interaction. First of all, the students always

have to be aware of what is expected of them. Sometimes it is straightforward, when,

for example, a teacher reads a sentence and instructs somebody to translate it. But some

other times it may not be easy to follow the interaction. In real life outside the

classroom, if someone instructs you: ‗Come with me!‘ this would either require

immediate action, or if not, then at least a question about the reason for it. Here in the

classroom, the students seem to know the meaning of the sentence. But here the

students also know that what is required of them is not to act, but to translate. The

teacher would probably be very surprised if the students stood up and tried to follow

her, or even if they asked her after the sentence ‗Come with me!‘, ‗Where?‘.

With younger students the demands of the task are very considerable in a

situation like this. They need to read sentences in the L2, or listen to them, and at the

same time they need to work out what the activity is about, and act accordingly. It is a

difficult task for their teachers too, to mediate between the target language text and

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their students, and it seems that the method most often used is translation. This

probably hinders not only the possibility of communication in the L2 at that time, but

also later. If the students learn to translate every word, they may continue doing this

even in situations when this would not help them, such as when they meet a foreigner

who may use unknown words in the sentences. Not having strategies to guess the

meaning of unknown words could hinder real communication.

The next feature that is going to be discussed is another very demanding thing

for the students, when the language changes back and forth, from L2 to L1. When the

text is part of the input, and especially when constant translation is required, young

pupils are stretched considerably. This may affect the amount of scaffolding which they

need, and some teachers tend to use the L1 more during these activities. Others, as has

been pointed out, devised a technique to make the students say the translation (see page

149). Either way, real communication in the L2 may be limited when the text is the

main source of meaning. It is also possible to misunderstand a real question, and

believe that it was part of the text, as happened during the pilot study:

Example 5.34 Teacher Dóri (Pilot)

44 S : House spiders make webs in the corners of rooms, in cupboards and behind pictures.
45 T : Thank you. Csilla
46 S : How many spiders‘ webs can you find in your classroom?
47 T : Yes.
Can you find any?
48 S : ((hesitating then repeating)) Can you find…? mmm Some spiders don‘t make webs
the wolf spider doesn‘t make webs but it can move very quickly
49 T : yes. Gergő

In turn 46 the student is reading a sentence from the text book. In turn 47 the teacher

accepts the reading with a word ‗yes‘, and then asks a ‗real‘ question. The student is

obviously confused, and even repeats part of the sentence after the teacher, before

deciding that it is not part of the text. Then she proceeds to continue reading the

following sentence. The teacher does not try to explain that it was a real question, but

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accepts the next sentence and nominates a new student to read. This in itself is a very

interesting incident, as the text was probably designed to encourage a dialogue about

spiders in the students‘ own classrooms. Even with this ‗help‘, the reading of the text

was distracting enough for the teacher not to engage in any conversation and so miss a

possible chance to communicate or to learn to communicate. It seems that the written

text may constitute an obstacle to communication, most likely because of the way the

teachers deal with it, through the technique of sentence-by-sentence translation.

The next major category of constraint is the pupils themselves. Their age, their

cognitive development, their motivation, and behaviour may all have an effect on what

happens in the classrooms, and on what is possible and desirable.

5.3.8 Cognitive and affective characteristics of learners

The pupils in the classrooms I visited were between 9 and 10 years old. Their teachers

did not agree on how easy or difficult it is to teach a foreign language to this age group.

Some thought that the younger the pupils are the easier is to teach them (Teacher

Piroska) while others believed the opposite (teachers Franciska and Gizi).

The interviews show that the expectations of the teachers can affect, at least

partly, the difficulty they face when teaching their pupils. Teacher Gizi believes that the

difficulty may not depend on the age, but on the level of the students:

Example 5.35: Interview with Teacher Gizi (turns 41-43)

T: … I did not start teaching them in English, because they were not at that level,
what I think the child has to reach a certain level to be able to teach them [in
the L2], well, when I am explaining the terms‟ noun‟, or‟ verb‟, well now I can
tell them „noun‟ or „verb‟, but this is not possible at younger years than six, for
example a Grade 4 student may not understand it, so in year four or five,
although it also depends on the class itself, and the level … As I mentioned to
you before, my year seven class is still not [ready for me to use the L2]
R: mmm
T: so there there it would be a wasted time for me to speak English, they would
only look at me and wonder what I want, because their thinking is not ready,

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 grammatically they cannot follow it, so it does not depend on the class (the
year) , but depends on the level…

There are some important things to take into consideration here. One is that the usual

method of teaching in these classes is surely more difficult to use with the younger

pupils. Explaining the present perfect tense to a 9-year-old, who does not think in

conscious grammatical categories, can be almost impossible. The other important factor

is the belief of the teachers. If they think that the students are not able to do something

because of their cognitive development, they will teach what they believe the students

can do. This point will be considered further in Chapter Six, page 255.

5.3.9 Behaviour

The next factor that could influence what happens in the classroom is the behaviour of

the pupils. Young children are curious and usually interested in learning new things.

But their need to move around, talk and interact was often restricted in the observed

language classrooms, for different reasons. The lack of space and the difficulty this

presents has previously been discussed. Many teachers talked about the possible

behaviour problems that can happen in the language classes. They told me that there

were often behaviour problems when the students were tired, for example, during the

fifth or sixth lesson of the day, just before lunch. They may also be affected by what

kind of lesson they had before the English lesson. If they had been with a strict teacher,

I was told that it was easier to teach them than if they came from a lesson where there

was more freedom. One common technique to maintain discipline is to use lots of

exercises, preferably written ones, as Teacher Marika explains:

Example 5.36: Interview with Teacher Marika (turns 104-106)

T: … right now it is a bit difficult with them, as they are becoming teenagers, so
there is so much time spent, unnecessary, to talk to the others, to make a
remark, chat the chatting is taking a lot of time, attention, to stop them, lots of
time goes away with this so well, it is a bit difficult to teach them just now, …

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her/him to do, then there is little time to misbehave
R: yes, I just wanted to ask if you have any techniques. ((laughter))
T: yes, if I give them plenty of tasks they will not misbehave a lot, so that‟s why I
have to push them lots

The pupils are used to doing written tasks, in the other lessons, and this seems to keep

them under control (engaged time). If they can talk freely, or if they can move around,

the order of the class may be disrupted much more easily. The teachers who are less

able to manage a class are in a difficult position, because if they let the children move

around, talk and play, other teachers and the head may think that they cannot keep order

in their classrooms. The expectation of an orderly classroom with no noise also puts a

substantial constraint on what is and what is not possible or desirable. Unfortunately

this may hinder real, free communication and natural language learning through

activities and interaction.

5.3.10 Levels of motivation

Those who attend the special program and so start early are considered lucky. There is

competition to get these places; they can also be removed from the group, so they

usually behave and learn what is expected of them. It may not be possible to tell how

motivated they are, as they may learn everything out of fear of getting a bad mark.

Those schools which struggle to survive often have more problems with the behaviour

and motivation of their students to learn. Teacher Franciska, from one of these schools

explains:

Example 5.37: Interview with Teacher Franciska (talking after Lesson 2)

T: … the problem is… that the… children are not…that keen on learning a
language …, when English became the compulsory language …(before that)
they were much more keen to learn it,…children do not really, they do not like
learning, not just English, they do not really learn. You can ask anybody, they
do not really learn. They do not do their homework, do not have their books,
exercise books, have not done it…

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If language learning is similar to learning other subjects, with homework, practice and

marks, then those children who are generally not motivated will not be motivated to

learn English either.

The second part of Chapter 5 has highlighted some of the possible constraints the

teachers face in language classrooms. The final section in this chapter shows how some

teachers dealt with the pressures and the constraints they were facing in their

classrooms.

5.4 Three short case studies

Classrooms present different pressures and constraints. Although no two classes or

lessons are identical, there are common features that could influence how efficiently the

teacher can teach. There are factors that could also make it easier or more difficult to

teach communicatively.

Some schools have better provision for language teaching than others. Well-

trained language teachers, adequate classrooms with good materials and technology and

fewer students, well motivated ones, can make teaching easier. On the other hand, lack

of training and resources may make it very difficult or even impossible to implement

communicative language teaching. Also, in the same school, with similar resources and

training, teachers may find that certain classes respond better to their methods than

others.

Individual teachers may also respond to similar situations differently. Some

teachers manage to teach communicatively in many contexts, while others are less

successful. In each of the observed lessons a variety of responses was demonstrated.

I selected three teachers, representing three ways of responding to the pressures

and constraints they were facing. The aim of this section is not to generalize, but to

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teachers found themselves. The focus of the analysis here is on the teacher‘s language

use. Both the L1 and the L2 use are investigated. The questions in this section are: Does

the teacher use the L2 as much as possible? Does she teach communicatively?

5.4.1 Aiming too low: Teacher Gizi

Elementary Teacher Gizi, although she has a very good command of English, used

hardly any L2 in her Grade 4 lessons (6% and 11%). After the lessons she told me that

she was not confident that her students could meet the cognitive challenge of using the

L2. The only time she used any L2 was when she either read from the L2 texts, or was

teaching vocabulary. The first example shows how the class dealt with the text from the

course book:

Example 5.38: Lesson Gizi 1

Original script Translated script
206 C : Listen. Can you hear an aeroplane? Listen. Can you hear an aeroplane?
207 T : Sanyi Sanyi
208 S : Listen. Can you hear an aeroplane? Listen. Can you hear an aeroplane?
209 T : na mit jelent? Can you hear an <well, what does it mean?> Can you
aeroplane? hear an aeroplane?
210 S : hallod te hallod a <can youhear can you hear the>
211 T : hallasz egy <can you hear an>
212 S : hallasz egy repülőgépet? <can you hear an aeroplane?>
213 T : így van és mit válaszol? ott van olvasd <that‟s right and what does she
fel answer? It is there, read it>
214 S : I don‘t know ((‗k‘ is pronounced in I don‘t know ((‗k‘ is pronounced in
know)) know))
215 T : nem ejtjük a kát <do not pronounce the „k‟>

In this example Teacher Gizi used the L2 only to read from the text. The rest of her

speech was in the L1, asking questions, ―What does it mean?‖, ―What is the answer?‖,

giving an instruction ―Read it‖ and giving information ―It is there, read it‖. The next

example shows another usual type of interaction. The teacher says a L2 word and the

class repeats it:

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 Example 5.39: Lesson Gizi 2
27. T : hand
28. Ss : hand
29. T : arm
30. Ss : arm
10. T : neck
32. Ss : neck

It was obvious from the lessons I observed that the aim for Teacher Gizi was to teach

the words and sentences from the course book. Teacher Gizi did not use any L2 for

communication. She did not provide enough L2 input for the students and it is possible

that not allowing the students to hear extended L2 talk may be partly the reason why

they struggle to make sense of the new language. Repeating only words without the

context is very difficult for anybody, including children.

5.4.2 Aiming too high: Teacher Hajni

The next example is from Elementary Teacher Hajni, whose total L2 use was high in

comparison to the other Elementary teachers. First I will show what kind of interaction

took place in her classes. Then I will argue, using the transcribed and analysed

classroom discourse data and my observation during the recorded lessons, that the

extensive use of the L2 by this teacher did not constitute communicative language

teaching, and may even have limited the opportunities for learning

Teacher Hajni used the L2 extensively, and managed some communication by

giving instructions and asking questions in the L2. During her lessons she faced two

particular difficulties. First, because of her use of extended stretches of L2 talk, the

students did not always understand what was expected of them, so she had problems

with discipline. Second, she read from a text extensively, asking the students to

translate the text, thus adding to her L2 use considerably but not to communicative

language teaching.

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 During both lessons there were many turns where she exclusively used the L2

for instructions and explanation, and so from the word count, and even from a closer

inspection of the transcribed classroom data, it looked as if she was teaching

communicatively. The following example shows one of these turns, with many

utterances in the L2.

Example 5.40: Lesson Hajni 1

163. T : this is a colour Marcsi come here it‘s a colour and Marti no please open your a
exercise and take your a black pencil and write a these words please who knows?
a yes it‘s okay sit down please sit down yes it‘s okay sh shhh (4.0) ((children are
sitting down)) it‘s okay er yeah it‘s yellow everybody repeat
164. T&Ss : yellow blue green red
165 T : a please say word with a this colour yellow
166. S : sárga <yellow>

Teacher Hajni used the L2 extensively, but it is clear from the transcript that much of

what she said was not reaching the children because of the lack of interaction. From the

transcripts alone it is not easy to see everything that was going on in the classroom. I

was sitting at the back of the class during the recordings, and the students, especially

those at the back of the class, were often doing other things while the teacher was

talking in the L2 to some students at the front. The teacher‘s continuous L2 use, without

other clues or help, was obviously too difficult for most of them.

She also used a story in one of her lessons. The following example shows the

method she used:

Example 5.41: Lesson Hajni 2

Original script Translated script
177 T : mhm the chairs are black Kriszti mhm the chairs are black Katy
178. S : a székek feketék <the chairs are black>
179. T : the doors are black the doors are black
180. S : az ajtók feketék <the doors are black>
181 T : Mhm the floor is black Mhm the floor is black
182. S : a padló fekete <the floor is black>

The teacher spent the second half of her first lesson reading the story of Winnie the

Witch, sentence by sentence, and the students translated it. This was simply translation,

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without any real communication.

5.4.3 Some good shots: Teacher Piroska

Intermediate Teacher Piroska was very keen to use the L2 as much as possible. She told

me after her second lesson that she often wondered how to teach a certain unit, or how

to explain a word in the L2. She used 80 % and 85% of L2 during her two lessons, and

she also used different techniques to teach the words and grammar from the textbook.

She used the board, drew pictures, gave exercises she had designed, and also used

games and activities to help the students to stay motivated and focused.

One of the important features of her lessons was that there was continuous

interaction between her and the students. Teacher Piroska used short instructions,

questions and information in the L2. She modified her speech, used body language and

visual clues and made sure that her students understood what she was saying. The

following example shows the teacher giving instructions:

Example 5.42: Lesson Piroska 1

119 T : …very good ok and now open your books on page forty-eight (6.0) ((pupils are
finding the right page in the pause)) forty-eight chocolate yes yummy yummy (9.0)
I am going to read the text because it is a new one and you will translate it right?
120 S : igen <yes>

In turn 119 the teacher gives two instructions, one is to ‗open the book on page forty-

five‘ and the other is to ‗listen to her and translate the text‘. After giving the first

instruction, she walked around the class, checking that everybody knew which page

they were on. She even used the word ―yummy‖ and licked her lips when some of the

pupils found the correct page number. This clue about chocolate, and the word itself

being similar to the Hungarian, helped the students to find the page.

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comprehension by asking the word ―right?‖ at the end of the instruction. A student

answered her in the L1, and as the others also seemed to know what was required, she

proceeded and read the first sentence.

Where there was an unknown word, Teacher Piroska often used different

techniques. One of them was when she showed a picture and asked the students to

guess the meaning of it, was discussed earlier (see page 191). There were other, more

successful ways of communicating the meaning of a word, as shown in the next

example.

Example 5.43: Lesson Piroska 1

Original script Translated script
138 T : … after five years pink flowers grow on … after five years pink flowers grow on
the trees the flowers slowly become pods the trees the flowers slowly become pods
the pods are red or orange Zsófi please the pods are red or orange Zsófi please
139 S : öt évenként rózsazszín virágok nőnek <every five years pink flowers grow>
140 T : A <the>
141 S : A <the>
142 T&S : fán ((almost together)) <on the tree> ((almost together))
143 S : a virágok <the flowers>
144 T : slowly ((saying it slowly to demonstrate slowly ((saying it slowly to demonstrate
meaning)) quickly ((saying it quickly to meaning)) quickly ((saying it quickly to
demonstrate meaning)) slow demonstrate meaning)) slow
145 S : lassan <slowly>
146 T : yes… yes…

In this example saying the word ―slowly‖ slowly and the word ―quickly‖ quickly (in

turn 144) helped the student to remember the meaning at once.

When Teacher Piroska was giving instructions in the L2, the students often

understood it. This showed that they were used to some basic, short instructions, for

example ‗Open your book‘ or ‗Read and translate the text‘. When there was a new

activity and the instructions were either longer or less familiar, Teacher Piroska often

stayed in the L2 and helped in the L2, until the students understood her. The following

example shows one of the incidents:

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 Example 5.44; Lesson Piroska 1
Original script Translated script
61 T : … today we are going to learn about … today we are going to learn about
chocolate… I have got some pictures chocolate … I have got some pictures
here please look at the board look at here please look at the board look at
these pictures and I will write some these pictures and I will write some
words here please match the words and words here please match the words and
the pictures right? Okay? Laura what is the pictures right? Okay? Laura what is
your task? (3.0) Laura what is your task? (3.0) Laura what is
62 S : két szót kell <two words are to be>
63 T : No. Here are some pictures I will write No. Here are some pictures I will write
some words some words
64 S : le kell írni <have to be written>
65 T : nononono I I‘m going to write one two nononono I I‘m going to write one two
three four five words here and you have three four five words here and you have
to match to match
66 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx) a képeket (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx) <the pictures>
67 T : very good very good

In turn 61 the teacher uses many L2 utterances to give information and instructions

about the next task. When she asks a student to explain what the task is, at first the

student does not understand her. Teacher Piroska then uses shorter turns, with fewer

utterances to help. She also uses the visual clues, the pictures; she counts them, and

uses body language, as she imitates how she is going to write and how the students are

required to match the pictures with the words. The scaffolding is successful, the

students understand the task, and the activity can start.

Another successful way of helping is to let the students help each other. Teacher

Piroska often used this method:

Example 5.45 Lesson Piroska 2

188 T : thank you very much
: and now listen to me
: February what are they doing? February what are they doing? Zsuzsi
189 S : make a cake
190 T : they are
191 S : make a cake
192 T : they are
193 S : they are make a cake
194 T : Rozi help her please (3.0)
: they are
195 S : they are making a cake
196 T : very good Zsuzsi please repeat

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Instead of making the student repeat the correct sentence after the teacher, another

student, Rozi, formed the correct sentence and helped Zsuzsi. This provided real

interaction in the L2 for the two students, and also could possibly have reduced the

struggling student‘s anxiety (see Chapter Six, page 255, for further discussion).

One factor that kept the class from real communication in the L2 was that the

students used the L1 extensively, alongside the teacher‘s L2 use. In these classes the

students did not need to try to make themselves understood in the L2, and this

inevitably influenced their ability to communicate with speakers of English. They may

understand what a native speaker says, but it may be difficult for them to respond

verbally.

Teacher Piroska was not teaching in the L2 all the time either, and often the

lessons were more like a grammar translation lesson, with some L2 instructions or

questions from the teacher. Still, she used some of the techniques that would also help

the comprehension in a more communicatively-oriented setting. By providing extensive

L2 input, this teacher allowed the students to hear the L2, to respond to it physically or

verbally, and it is likely that this helps the students‘ comprehension.

5.4.4 On target

There is a fourth category, labelled ―On target‖. No teachers from this study fitted into

this category, as none of the observed teachers used the L2 exclusively, and none of

them was teaching their students to be able to use the language in practice much, apart

from some isolated incidences where some real communication happened during some

of the lessons.

It is still important to mention this category here. Some teachers, in other

contexts (for example see Bors, 2003; Nikolov, 2008 in Hungarian schools) were able

to teach young learners communicatively using the L2 exclusively or as much as

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possible. More research into classroom practices in primary language classes is needed

to show how other teachers teach foreign languages to young learners, both in Hungary,

and in other countries, to see if real communicative language teaching is done, and if so

how.

5.5 Summary
In Chapter 5 I have analysed the data qualitatively. The two questions to be answered

were: ―Why do the teachers use the L1 during their lessons?‖ and ―What do they think

about the use of the L1 in their English classes?‖

In the first part I considered the pressures on the teachers to teach

communicatively. From the interviews it was clear that the teachers felt that although

their recent training was preparing them to teach communicatively, many found it

difficult to carry this out in their everyday practice. Their previous experience of both

language learning and teaching was biased towards the grammar translation method.

The new course books could have made it possible to teach more communicatively, but

they still contained extended texts which were used for teaching vocabulary and

grammar. The self-made tests also showed focus on form language teaching.

In the second part the constraints became clear from the interviews and the

classroom data and my observations. The learning space was often limited, and the time

allocated shorter for the beginners or those considered less able. Some of the teachers

were not confident enough to use the L2 and the communicative method. The

motivation and behaviour of the students varied; getting good marks was most

important for them all, but particularly the intermediate ones.

In the third part of the chapter I looked at three different responses to the

situation, very little use of L2, often too difficult use of L2, and some successful

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target‘. The final chapter provides the discussion and conclusion of my research.

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6. Chapter Six: Six and conclusion
Discussion
Discussions and Conclusion

6.1 Introduction
This study has concentrated mainly on the language use and choice of the teachers.

In the quantitative analysis, I showed the amount of L1 and L2 the different

participants used during the lessons and the relationship between some of them. I

offered an explanation to why the pilot study gave different results from the main study,

and highlighted some of the variables that might influence interaction in the classroom.

I also analysed the instances of use of the L1 according to their function.

In the qualitative analysis I looked at the interaction between the pressures on

the teachers to use a communicative approach and the constraints which limit their

ability to do so. I also presented three case studies and argued that teachers choose

different ways to manage the pressures and constraints that they were facing in their

classrooms. . I also investigated how the teachers‘ target language use and mother

tongue use both can facilitate language learning (Lugossy, 2003), when used

appropriately.

In the last chapter I discuss the wider implications of my study as I look into the

beliefs of the observed teachers about teaching a foreign language to young learners,

and the opportunities their students were given for learning, before drawing the

conclusions. Also, the limitations of this study are recognised and suggestions for

further research are given.

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6.2 Discussion

6.2.1 Factors affecting language teaching/learning in the observed classes

Many factors, both external and internal, influence what happens in any given

classroom (see also Table 2.1). From studying my data it appears that the following

factors were present and influenced classroom practice including the teachers‘ language

choice and use.

External factors The curriculum, examinations, expectations in the school,

the attitudes of the head-teacher, colleagues, parents and

the political context, the context of the school, learning

space, available time, materials, course books,

monolingual class, difference between the L1 and L2.

Internal (teacher-related) The professional experience, training, proficiency in the

L2, self-confidence, beliefs about how children learn and

attitudes towards the L2.

Internal (learner-related) The age, cognitive and affective characteristics,

proficiency level, motivation, attitude towards the L2,

expectations, behaviour.

Internal (context-related) The stage in the lesson and the nature of the task or

activity.

Internal (use of language) The extent to which language use is formulaic or

predictable in the context.

The external factors should be seen as always potentially relevant in any of the

classrooms in this study, but their effect is not uniformly in the same direction. The

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pressure of impending exams and the perceived need to complete the syllabus may

make the teacher more inclined to use the L1 in order to save time in giving

explanations of unfamiliar classroom procedures. Pulling in the opposite direction is

the Hungarian National Curriculum, and often the expectations of the head teachers and

the teachers from the teacher training colleges, who promote the use of the L2 in the

classroom wherever this is possible.

Regarding the internal factors, I consider first the teacher-related factors. The

evidence of my study suggests that the teachers‘ previous experience in language

learning, with their previous training and using the grammar translation method has the

greatest influence on their present methods of teaching. Also, the personal beliefs and

preferences of the teachers had an influence on how they were teaching.

With regard to the learner-related factors, the evidence of this study suggests

that the learners in the observed classes were not inhibited in their use of the L1 where

this was necessary. They were not, in any case, given much opportunity to exercise

choice in whether to use the L2 or the L1, since their contributions were usually

constrained by having to respond to an Initiating move from the teacher, and the nature

of the activity usually made it clear whether the L1 was permissible or not. The level of

the learners was another influencing factor, with the Elementary students usually

needing more scaffolding and so more L1 help than the Intermediate ones. Cameron

(2001: 27) has pointed out that young learners in foreign language classrooms are faced

with a range of demands, both cognitive and linguistic, which require different levels of

support from the teacher. I suggest that the use of the L1 by the teachers in my data

was also influenced by the teachers‘ assessment of the cognitive and linguistic

processing demands made on the learners by the tasks they were expected to complete.

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 In relation to the internal, context-related factors, it seems that these are mostly

related to the stage of the lesson and the nature of the task or activity. Typically,

activities where the use of language is repetitive, formulaic and predictable will allow

the use of the L2, whereas any communication which is not routine will usually be

carried out by the student in the L1. Routine, formulaic use of language was often used

at the beginnings and endings of lessons and at familiar transition points between

different activities. Some teachers, especially the Intermediate ones, have built up a

good repertoire of instructions and questions with their students in the L2. This made it

possible for them to use the L2 extensively in their speech, for giving instructions or

asking questions.

In relation to the type of activity, it was shown that short question-and-answer

conversational routines required, and allowed, the use of the L2. In activities requiring

the processing of extended text from the textbook, the teachers acted as a mediator

between the L2 text and the students, and often felt compelled to use the L1 in order to

facilitate this process of mediation. The belief of the teachers, namely that they needed

to teach every single word with its L1 translation meant that either they resorted to the

L1 to do so, or devised their own methods to achieve their aim. Explicit grammar

teaching was also evident in the observed classes, highlighting the fact that the shift

from this older method to the newer one has not happened yet.

I do not have specific information about all the factors that influence each

teacher during a lesson. I can only hypothesise that with the right factors in place a

teacher would most probably use the L2 extensively. Favourable factors would include

external factors, all ‗expecting‘ and helping towards the L2 use, and internal factors

able to make this possible, such as a confident and well trained teacher in

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communicative language teaching, with a good command of L2 and able, motivated

children wanting to learn the language.

Sometimes even one strong factor could be decisive in determining the language

choice made by the teacher. For example if the head or an examiner was sitting in,

expecting exclusive L2 use, most teachers would do everything to fulfil the

expectations. On the other hand, if a teacher thought that the class was not able to learn

the language in the L2, this would be enough alone for him/her not to use the L2. When

the teachers are left alone to do what they want to do, they teach according to their

beliefs and underlying theories about how young learners learn. The following section

looks into the observed teachers‘ beliefs.

6.2.2 Teachers‟ beliefs

From the lesson observations alongside the interviews with the teachers, it is possible to

find out the beliefs the teachers hold about teaching young students a foreign language

which underlie their teaching practice. It is also possible to compare their practices with

those accepted as good practice.

From the data it is apparent that the teachers observed in this study think they

know exactly what is to be taught and learned and when (Examples 5.10 and 5.14).

They constantly check the progress of the students with frequent vocabulary tests

(Picture 5.1), and tests where the students need to translate sentences (Picture 5.2), and

also recite sections from the text in the textbook which the students have been asked to

memorise (Examples 4.20, 4.21, 5.10, 5.11). The students get marks for these (Example

5.17).

The teachers mostly provided the words and grammar to be learned (synthetic

approach, Wilkins, 1976). Some even taught irregular verbs to their nine year old

students (Example 4.26), and some explicitly stated that there were words not to be

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learnt yet (Example 5.14). The result of this practice was that none of the teachers

provided extended English language in context for the students to be able to see and

hear the language and learn in a more naturalistic way, with the help of instruction and

social processes in these classrooms (Wong-Fillmore, 1991). The teachers‘ belief that

students need to know the meaning of all the words they hear or see, and understand the

grammatical rules in each sentence they encounter meant that they used the L2 in a very

narrow way, and usually not for real communication with their students.

There were some exceptions, as when the teachers gave instructions in the L2

(for example Example 4.24), or where teacher Piroska invited a student to help another

student (Example 5.45), or where teacher Kati gave real information in the L2 about the

Olympics (Example 4.19). Unfortunately even these examples did not always show real

communicative exchanges. For example, in Example 4.19, when real information was

being provided, there was no need or opportunity for the students to respond in any

meaningful way before the teacher returned to the pre-planned activity. However, apart

from a few exceptions when the teachers tried to provide some real exchange in the L2,

the rest of the observed lessons consisted only of the material the teachers wanted the

students to learn, mainly found in the textbook.

Most of the practices followed the belief that teaching should be done in a

behaviouristic way, with the help of the audio-lingual method. The lessons regularly

employed the techniques of repetition (Examples 4.2, 4.24, 5.27), the correction of all

mistakes (Examples 4.10, 4.24, 4.26), explicit grammar teaching (Example 5.15)

translation of words and sentences (Examples 4.29 and 4.30), teaching the

pronunciation of individual words (Examples 4.1 and 4.26) and the writing down of all

the vocabulary items along with the translation (Example 5.3), none of them with the

offer of any opportunity for real communication in the L2.

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 In the interviews none of the teachers mentioned that the aim of the lesson was

to teach the students to communicate, to acquire not only linguistic but communicative

competence (Canale and Swain, 1980), which is the main aim of foreign language

teaching in the NCC (Nemzeti Alaptanterv, 2003). Instead, they all talked about

grammar teaching and they all expressed their opinion that it was very difficult to teach

grammar explicitly to young learners. Only one teacher referred to not teaching

grammar, but this was in a negative way. Teacher Kati told me after one of her lessons

that those students who do not manage to learn the grammatical rules are the less

linguistically talented ones, grouped into a separate group, and she can teach them only

simple things, like how to find their way or how to buy something in a shop.

Unfortunately, I was not present at any of the lessons which demonstrated this

type of teaching. However, this understanding that ‗being able to speak only‘ is not

considered as valid learning (Example 5.26). Although it can lead to genuine

communication, this examples shows that the teachers did not believe in the importance

of communicative language teaching. Because of their strong emphasis on grammar

(Example 5.19), vocabulary and teaching written texts, they usually failed to conform

to the suggestions of ‗good practice‘ (Edelenbos, Johnstone and Kubanek, 2006), which

involves interesting, meaningful, challenging and motivating activities for the students.

In the observed lessons there was no differentiation within the group, and there

was even an occasion where a dyslexic child was made to sit at the back of the class,

and was not given anything to do with the language, but was told to read a book or do

his homework (see Picture 3.2). The belief behind this practice is that dyslexics may

find learning a foreign language very difficult, so they can be exempted, but they have

to be somewhere during those lessons. Although it may be true that dyslexic children

find it hard to learn to read and write in a language that is not phonetic, they may well

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be able to participate in the oral activities and could learn to communicate. Not

differentiating and simply giving up on them is a missed learning opportunity that may

never be compensated for. Three such lessons every week for five years is liable to give

a possibly irreversible message to the child: You are not able, do not even try! This may

cause damage to their self-esteem and influence their lives for a long time.

The activities that were present in these classrooms usually followed the

textbook or some other text chosen by the teacher, page by page, sometimes with some

additional activities. The children often had to sit for the entire 45 minutes, listening to

the teacher talking and following the instructions that were given. Pair or group work

was not used, and when some of the children got restless and bored some teachers had

problems with discipline. The worst example was when teacher Franciska labelled one

of her students a ‗monster‘ and sent him outside the class (Example 4.7). This is totally

unacceptable practice and could have a long lasting effect not only on the student‘s

language learning, but also on his self-confidence.

It was not only the students in some of the classes, but also the teachers

themselves who admittedly found the constant practising boring, but inevitable

(Example 5.20). But even being bored did not make the teachers change their plan, as

they followed their own syllabuses and implemented their lesson plans, without trying

to find out how they could make the lessons more interesting and useful. It appeared

that the children were not actively involved in their learning, but had to follow the plan

their teachers had. What exactly were they learning then and how? The final part of the

discussion deals with this question.

6.2.3 Opportunities for the students to learn

First of all I am going to show an example from teacher Kati‘s lesson:

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 Example 6.1; Lesson Kati 1
439 T : …tehát az első feladatod az a b olvasd …<well your first exercise is b Zsolt
fel Zsolt hogy mit kell tenni vele (2.0) read out what you have to do with it>
(2.0)
440 S : (xxxx xxxx) használd a there is there are (xxxx xxxx) <use the> there is there are
441 T : szerkezetet. Az első a példamondat em <structure>. The first the example
there is a book on the table there are three sentence> em there is a book on the table
windows ((stressing the sound s)) there are three windows ((stressing the
tagadva sound s)) <in negative>
442 S : there aren‘t there aren‘t
443 T : aren‘t aren‘t
444 S : aren‘t three windows aren‘t three windows
445 T : mondd a kettő a kettest <say the two the second one>
446 S : there aren‘t there aren‘t
447 T : two two
448 S : two beds two beds
449 T : there aren‘t two beds írjátok there aren‘t there aren‘t two beds <write it down>
two beds Vivien hármas there aren‘t two beds Vivien <number
three>
450 S : there aren‘t (xxxx) chairs there aren‘t (xxxx) chairs
451 T : igen <yes>

The students in this example are working from a photocopied sheet. They have to make

sentences using ‗there isn‘t‘ or ‗there aren‘t‘. They need to know many things to be

able to complete the exercise. They need to be able to read the sentences (There are

three windows). They need to know the names of the objects (table, windows, beds and

chairs), they need to know numbers (one, two and three). Then they also need to be able

to understand the difference between ‗there is‘ and ‗there isn‘t‘ and ‗there are‘ and

‗there aren‘t‘. If they know all of these, they need to look at the picture that goes with

the exercise, and for example, if in the picture there are only two windows while the

sentence underneath says ‗three windows‘, they have to say that ‗There aren‘t three

windows‘. At the end they have to write down the correct sentence into their

workbooks.

The aim of the teacher here is to make the students say correct sentences and

write them down correctly. What is interesting here, and was a very usual feature of

most of the observed classroom practice, is that the teacher‘s strong desire to achieve

these aims almost blinds her from realising that even an exercise like this could provide

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opportunities to hear the language and to learn much more than just the words and

sentences.

It would have been possible to give all the instructions in the L2 (turns 439, 441,

445, 449) with the positive feedback in turn 451. ‗Read‘, ‗do‘, ‗say‘ and ‗write‘ were

the basics of the instructions, and with appropriate scaffolding even beginners could

have completed the exercise while the teacher used the L2 exclusively. But there was

no scaffolding here in the L2, there were no gestures, no presentation, no trial or error.

As quickly as possible the exercise was done, the sentences written down, and the class

moved to the next exercise.

Although during the 16 lessons there were different kinds of exercises, the

underlying principles were the same. Also, the teachers often did not seem to be aware

of their students‘ ZPD (Vygotsky, 1987) and so hardly ever provided real learning

opportunities. They also often failed to develop the students‘ abstract thinking and

reasoning by not using exercises that would have helped these aims (Cameron, 2003).

From the observations it was also clear that the teachers were in charge of these

lessons, and did not allow their students any real freedom to be responsible for their

learning. The very few, infrequent and short incidences where some of the teachers

were teaching according to the suggestions of ‗good practice‘ were in reality

exceptions, rather than the rule.

6.3 Conclusion
Research evidence from different contexts has shown that if the right conditions are met

it is possible to teach children communicatively in primary school settings. The

directive of the Hungarian government is to teach the students communicatively, as is

suggested in the National Core Curriculum (Nemzeti Alaptanterv 2003).

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 Unfortunately the recommendations themselves alone are not enough. As

Nikolov (2000b) points out:

On the whole, the success of early language teaching in Hungary depends

on how appropriately qualified, enthusiastic teachers can be attracted to
teach in the lower primary section. … (unfortunately) many (practising
teachers are) lacking the proficiency, self confidence and methodological
background that is necessary in the communicative classroom of young
learners (page 34).

What became clear from the present research is that communicative language teaching

was not a priority for these teachers. They followed their own syllabuses and relied

heavily on one selected textbook and the methods they previously used, with little or no

desire to really communicate with their pupils in the L2.

There is not one simple answer to how to teach in any class, including a class

with young learners. Different circumstances require different approaches and no one

method would work everywhere. But there are certain methods that often work better

than others. Children are active, imaginative and curious learners, who enjoy

investigating the world around them. They love stories, games, puzzles, challenges and

they can focus and spend a long time on what really interests them.

When they are learning a foreign language, they do need to hear and see the

language. But this is not enough. They also need to be surrounded with interesting

activities that match their cognitive development and interest. No single course book,

no matter how colourful or well designed, would satisfy the curiosity of a nine-year-old

for a whole year. In Hungary the teachers can choose which course books they use and

how. So even if their school recommends a book, they do not need to follow it page by

page, but they can design their own material, supplementing the course book with it.

There are so many extra sources through which the foreign language can be met

in Hungary. There are pop songs, cartoons and films on TV, magazines, radio

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programmes, libraries, and there is the internet. If a teacher finds out what really

interests the pupils, she or he could make language learning so much fun by providing

exciting new materials. One class may want to read and re-read a fairy tale and act it

out, rather than learn the sentences. This would allow them to use the language, each

time adding a little more of the vocabulary from the story, thus helping the students to

say what they really want to say. When they are ready, they can act it out to the others,

or to the parents. Another class may want to design a board game, and write all the

instructions and the questions in the L2 on it, then play the game with other students.

Others again may want to check the internet and collect interesting facts and then make

up a quiz. They might find pen pals from other primary schools, or write their own

blog. The resource books for teachers offer lots of good ideas and practical advice.

The problem is that designing materials, teaching something else rather than

following the course book closely, needs extra preparation and may be time-consuming.

Most of the English language teachers in Hungarian primary schools have little time to

do such things, as they often have a full timetable every day, and after school they take

private pupils for tuition to supplement their income.

However, there are some glimpses of hope. In the last few years there has been

a change in the assessment structure; no marks need to be given to very young learners,

but instead written evaluation of their progress is provided. This may slowly reduce the

teachers‘ real or perceived pressures of the constant tests, and let the teachers focus on

what really matters in these classrooms, namely, to teach communicatively, to provide a

supportive environment, and continuity from one year to another to consolidate the

advantage of the early start of the foreign language learning. The language-related

outcomes are strongly related not only to how the teachers teach, but to the particular

curriculum that is being used (Edelenbos, Johnstone and Kubanek, 2006: 39) and what

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the final aims are. Once the aim of the teachers really is to teach the students to be able

to communicate in the new language, the planning, the exercises during the lessons and

the evaluations after them should all reflect this. Then it will be not just a suggestion,

but a necessity, to use the L2 as much as possible, for all the participants.

6.4 Limitations
The data for this study was collected from one district in Budapest only and the classes

had students of similar age, but at different levels. Although multiple sources were

used for the data analysis, the findings may be representative for the observed classes,

but may not show a general picture of other classrooms, in other districts or towns or

villages.

Yet I am confident that the in-depth analysis of these classrooms has given a

realistic picture of these particular settings, and that the factors I have identified can be

present in other contexts. The suggestions about what was happening and why, in these

classrooms could have wider implications for other classrooms wherever changes from

the one language teaching method to the other, take place.

6.5 Recommendations for further research

It would be useful to carry out research on how teachers teach the same grade in other

districts in Budapest, and also in other towns outside Budapest. It would be very

interesting to compare the findings from schools in cities or towns with schools in

villages. Further research on the teaching of foreign languages to different age groups

would also be very useful for comparison.

There could also be research done looking at what happens when the same

teachers work with different classes, to ascertain the effect of a particular class or age-

group or level, on the teaching method used. It would be interesting to do a longitudinal

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study, following certain teachers over a length of time, to see if their teaching methods

change as the students get older.

Yet another area which could be investigated concerns how English is taught to

young learners in other countries. It would also be good to study how other modern

foreign languages are taught, and to compare the results.

6.6 Final Comment

During my research I was challenged not only as a researcher but also as a teacher.

Thinking through the issues that have arisen from the very real questions of how to

teach foreign languages to young students I realised that we are still far from knowing

everything in this field. I know one thing for sure though: Whenever I am going to do

research or teach again, I will never stop being a student, who is willing to learn not

only from books, but from my colleagues and students, too.

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Appendix 1
The National Core Curriculum in Hungarian (extracts)

IDEGEN NYELV

...Az élı idegen nyelv tanításának és tanulásának alapvetı célja a kommunikatív

nyelvi kompetenciák kialakítása. A kommunikatív nyelvi kompetencia fogalma
azonos a használható nyelvtudással....
4. évfolyam

Célok és feladatok
A negyedik évfolyamon kezdıdı kisgyermekkori idegennyelv-oktatás alapvetı
célja lélektani és nyelvi: egyrészt kedvet ébreszteni a nyelvek tanulása iránt,
sikerélményhez juttatni a diákokat, másrészt megalapozni a késıbbi nyelvtanulást,
fıként a receptív készségek fejlesztésével. Ezekhez járul még a nyelvtanulási
stratégiák kialakításának megalapozása.
Gyermekkorban a nyelvtanulás a természetes nyelvelsajátítás folyamataira épül. A
gyerekek számukra érdekes, értelmes, önmagukban motiváló és kognitív
szintjüknek megfelelı kihívást jelentı tevékenységekben vesznek részt. Ezek során
a célnyelvet hallva, a szituációt, kontextust értve haladnak elıre a nyelv
elsajátításában. Ez a folyamat lassú, az idısebb korosztályra jellemzı látványos
nyelvi eredményt nem várhatunk. Egyik tipikus jellemzıje a csendes szakasz,
melynek során egyes diákok akár hónapokig nemigen szólalnak meg, de a játékos
tevékenységekbe szívesen bekapcsolódnak.
Az idegen nyelvi órákon a gyerekek az ismeretlen nyelven hallottakat a világról
kialakult ismereteik alapján értelmezik, ezért elengedhetetlen, hogy a tananyag
általuk ismert tartalmakra épüljön. Ez egyrészt a konkrét helyzet kihasználásával,
szemléltetéssel, másrészt már ismert tantárgyak anyagának integrálásával érhetı el.
Így válik az ismeretlen célnyelvi tanári beszéd érthetıvé a diákok számára.
A kerettanterv az 1–4. évfolyamok anyanyelven megismert témaköreire,
beszédszándékaira, fogalomköreire és tevékenységeire épül. A készségek közül a
hallott szöveg értésének fejlesztése a legfontosabb, melynek fejlıdését az órai
utasítások és a cselekvésre épülı játékos feladatok teljesítésébıl követhetjük
nyomon. A beszéd az egyszavas válaszoktól (igen, nem, név, szín, szám stb.), a
memorizált, elemezetlen nagyobb egységek használatáig terjed (köszönés,
mondóka, körjáték, dal). Természetes része a gyerekek órai beszédének a magyar
nyelvő kérdés és válasz, melyet visszajelzésként, megerısítésként használnak a
tanár célnyelvhasználatával párhuzamosan.
A követelmények a természetes nyelvelsajátítás folyamatát tükrözve a szó és az
egyszerő mondat szintjén mozognak. Az olvasás és írás bevezetésével célszerő
várni, míg a gyerekekben felmerül erre az igény.

Fejlesztési követelmények
Tudatosodjon a tanulóban, hogy anyanyelvén kívül idegen nyelven is kifejezheti
magát. Alakuljon ki a tanulóban pozitív hozzáállás a nyelvtanulás iránt. Fejlıdjön

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együttmőködési készsége, tudjon részt venni pár- és csoportmunkában. Ismerkedjen

meg néhány alapvetı nyelvtanulási stratégiával.

Témalista (ajánlás)
− Én és a családom: bemutatkozás, a család bemutatása.
− Az otthon: a szőkebb környezet: a lakás bemutatása; a lakószoba bemutatása;
kedvenc állatok; kedvenc játékok.
− Étkezés: kedvelt és kevésbé kedvelt ételek, italok.
− Öltözködés: ruhadarabok télen és nyáron; testrészek.
− Iskola: az osztályterem tárgyai, az iskola helyiségei.
− Tágabb környezetünk: állatok a világ különbözı tájain.
− Szabadidı, szórakozás: kedvenc idıtöltés.

Témakörök, tartalmak

A kommunikációs szándékokra és a fogalomkörökre vonatkozó nyelvenként

kidolgozott kimeneti követelményeket a kerettanterv hat nyelvre, kétéves bontásban
tartalmazza.
Kommunikációs szándékok

Társadalmi érintkezéshez szükséges kommunikációs szándékok:

− köszönés, elköszönés,
− bemutatkozás,
− köszönet és arra reagálás.
Személyes beállítódás és vélemény kifejezésére szolgáló kommunikációs szándékok:
− tetszés, nem tetszés.
Információcseréhez kapcsolódó kommunikációs szándékok:
− dolgok, személyek megnevezése,
− információkérés, információadás,
− igenlı vagy nemleges válasz

Fogalomkörök

− Cselekvés, történés, létezés kifejezése

− Birtoklás kifejezése
− Térbeli viszonyok
− Idıbeli viszonyok
− Mennyiségi viszonyok
− Minıségi viszonyok

A továbbhaladás feltételei

Hallott szöveg értése

A tanuló megért
− ismert nyelvi eszközökkel megfogalmazott, rövid kérést, utasítást megért, arra
cselekvéssel válaszol;

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− ismert nyelvi eszközökkel megfogalmazott rövid kérdést.

Beszédkészség
A tanuló
− egy szóval, vagy hiányos, egyszerő mondatban válaszol az ismert nyelvi
eszközökkel megfogalmazott kérdésre,
− ismert dolgokat megnevez,
− néhány mondókát, verset, dalt reprodukál.

Olvasott szöveg értése

A tanuló
− felismeri tanult szavak írott alakját,
− ismert nyelvi eszközökkel megfogalmazott, néhány szóból álló mondatot
megért;
− ismert nyelvi elemekbıl álló egymondatos szövegben fontos információt
megtalál.

Íráskészség
A tanuló lemásol ismert szavakat

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Word count of 16 lessons

Students

Cassette
Teacher

Lesson

No. of

Ss&C
Level

Students & Ss' names

Teacher Student Students Teacher by teacher
L2 L1 Total L2 L1 Total L2 L1 Total L2 L1 Total L2 L2 L1
F 1 17 684 2482 3166 191 335 526 81 11 92 72 0 72 0 0 62
F 2 20 1587 2138 3725 171 555 726 86 6 92 220 4 224 0 0 34
G 1
Elementary

14 139 2097 2236 193 282 475 3 4 7 0 0 0 0 0 62

G 2 13 180 1508 1688 157 98 255 19 7 26 0 0 0 0 0 76
282

H 1 18 1426 268 1694 49 212 261 263 55 318 200 0 200 0 0 58

H 2 20 1304 475 1779 378 94 472 48 0 48 156 0 156 68 94 56
K 1 9 1525 964 2489 510 66 576 67 68 135 8 0 8 0 0 60
K 2 9 907 1557 2464 292 65 357 71 18 89 128 35 163 14 168 58
K 3 16 886 721 1607 700 214 914 373 12 385 263 0 263 95 158 47
K 4 16 1609 460 2069 813 50 863 5 3 8 0 0 0 0 0 88
Intermediate

M 1 10 2093 449 2542 280 57 337 14 1 15 9 0 9 128 67 59

M 2 11 1316 535 1851 343 84 427 10 4 14 0 0 0 0 109 71
P 1 16 1863 460 2323 417 168 585 110 0 110 81 5 86 0 0 86
P 2 16 1958 334 2292 492 76 568 60 11 71 15 0 15 0 119 64
I 1 13 1472 1338 2810 588 303 891 1 10 11 22 1 23 0 0 71
I 2 12 2298 1383 3681 469 259 728 11 4 15 1 2 3 0 0 51

Ss&C = students and cassette

 Appendix 3a

Letter to headteachers

Az iskola igazgatójának 2004. December 6.

Tisztelt Igazgató
Skóciából, a Stirling-i egyetemrıl írok, ahol jelenleg a doktorátusomat írom. Témám: angol
tanítás állami általános iskolákban Magyarországon.
XX lakom és tanítottam is néhány iskolában (napközis nevelı, tanító, angol tanár).
2004 májusában már meglátogattam 4 iskolát a doktorátusommal kapcsolatban (2 XX, 1
XX 1 XX), beszéltem a tanárokkal és láttam néhány angolórát is. Ez nagyon hasznos és
érdekes volt és úgy tervezem, hogy írok egy cikket jövıre.
2005 januárjában néhány hétre hazamegyek Magyarországra azért, hogy információt
győjtsek és hogy megtervezzem a további kutatásaimat. Azután 2005 májusában vagy
októberében úgy tervezem, hogy megint hazamegyek és meglátogatok kb. 6 iskolát (XX ,
ha lehetséges) és beszélek a tanárokkal és tanulókkal, meglátogatok néhány angolórát, fıleg
negyedik osztályokat, ahol csak éppen elkezdték a második idegen nyelv tanulásást.
Érdekel, hogy hogyan tanítanak angolt a tanárok, melyik könyvet használják, milyen
feladatokat szeretnek adni, mit gondolnak a tanulók arról, mennyire fontos egy idegen
nyelv, és ık mit szeretnek csinálni az órákon. Ezek fontos és érdekes kérdések, fıleg, mert
még mindig vita folyik arról, hogy mennyire hasznos a korai idegen nyelv oktatás.
(Skóciában például az általános iskola 6-dik vagy 7-dik osztályában kezdenek idegen
nyelvet tanítani.)
Azzan a kéréssel fordulok Önhöz, hogy kérem engedje meg, hogy a mellékelt kérdıívet
kitöltse/ék az ishola angoltanára/i. Szeretnék többet megtudni a XX angoloktatás
helyzetérıl. Ezen kívül azt is meg szeretném tudni, hogy szívesen rész vennének e a
kutatásomban.
Persze cserébe én is szeretnék ajánlani valami hasznosat. Attól függıen, hogy mire van
igény, mi érdekli a tanárokat, diákokat, szívesen tartanék elıadást vagy továbbképzést.
Például a jelenlegi kutatási eredményekrıl, vagy a skót és magyar általános iskolai oktatás
hasonlóságairól és különbségeirıl, vagy akár egy elıre kiválasztott egyéb témáról, vagy
diákat tudnék mutatni Skóciáról. Azoknak az osztályoknak-tanároknak akik részt vesznek a
kutatásomban, megpróbálhatnék levelezıtársakat találni abban az iskolában, ahol jelenleg
dolgozom.
Ha meglátogatok egy iskolát vagy osztályt, természetesen megmutatom a részt vevı
tanárnak amit szándékozom írni és engedélyt kérek, mielıtt bármit is publikálnék.
Arra kérném, hogy legyen szíves a mellékelt kérdıívet odaadni a tagozat vezetı
angoltanárnak.
A válaszokat a barátom magyar címére kérném (a mellékelt borítékban), mivel így
karácsony táján a nemzetközi posta kicsit lelassul. A barátom tudatja majd velem az
eredményt és így jobban meg tudom tervezni a januári magyarországi látogatásomat. .
Cím: XX
Címem: XX
Az egyetem címe: University of Stirling, SIRLING FK9 4LA Scotland
Ha bármi kérdés, probléma felmerülne, szívesen válaszolok. Legegyszeőbb email-t vagy
sms-t küldeni Email címem: XX Mobilom: XX

Kellemes karácsonyi ünnepeket és nagyon boldog új évet kívánok Nagy Krisztina

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Translation of letter to headteacher

To the Head Teacher

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing from Scotland, where I am a PhD student at Stirling University. My topic is:
teaching English as a second language in state primary schools in Hungary.
I live in XX and I used to teach in some of the schools there (afternoon teacher, primary
school teacher, English teacher).
I have already visited 4 schools in connection with my dissertation in May 2004 (2 in XX, 1
in XX and 1 in XX); I also talked to the teachers and saw a few lessons. This was really
very useful and interesting and I am planning to write an article about it next year.
In January 2005 I am planning to go back to Hungary for a few weeks to get more
information and to plan my further research. Then in May or September/October 2005 I am
planning to go back again and I would like to visit about 6 schools (preferably in XX) and
talk to the teachers and students and see some lessons, especially in primary 4 where they
just start learning. I am interested in how teachers teach English, what books they use, what
activities they like, what the students think about learning another language and what they
like doing. These are interesting and important questions, especially because there is still a
debate on how effective language learning is when the students start young in schools. (In
Scotland for example, second language teaching starts in primary 6 or 7.)
I am writing for your permission to ask the English teachers the questions in the enclosed
questionnaire so that I may find out more about language teaching in primary schools in
XX. I am also asking about their willingness to participate in my research.
In return I have something to offer. Depending on your wishes/needs I could do a workshop
on questions like recent research evidence about language learning in early years, or on the
difference between Scottish and Hungarian primary education, or I could show slides about
Scotland and give a talk on some agreed topic. I could also try to organise penpals for the
participating classes. If a school/class agrees to be visited, before publishing any materials I
will let the participating teachers read the script and ask their permission to use it.
Could you please give the enclosed questionnare to the English teacher/s.
It would be most helpful if you would send the questionnaires to my friend in Hungary,
avoiding the Christmas international post problems. He will make sure to send me the
results so that I can plan my visit in January.
His address is: XX
My address is: XX
The university’s address is: University of Stirling, SIRLING FK9 4LA Scotland

Could you please also let me know if you have any questions/problems. The best way is to
send an Email or a text message:
My email address is: XX
My mobile number is: XX

May I wish you Merry Xmas and very happy New Year!
Best wishes Krisztina Nagy

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Appendix 4

Questionnaire for English Teachers

Dear English teacher
I am a PhD student at Stirling University (Scotland) on “Teaching English as a second
language in Hungarian state primary schools” and as I am from XX. I have decided to
concentrate on the schools there. Could you please answer the following questions (and if
there are more than 1 English teacher in the school could you please also ask them to
answer the questions on page 2.) I am enclosing a self-addressed envelope (with a
Hungarian address to avoid the Christmas post problems) to make it easier for you to send
it.
Thank you, and I may see you in January. Have a good end of term and Merry Xmas and a
happy New Year!
The name of the school
……….…………………………………………………………
The number of children .........................
How many classes are in .........................

Grade 1 .........................
Grade 2 .........................
Grade 3 .........................
Grade 4 .........................
Grade 5 .........................
Grade 6 .........................
Grade 7 .........................
Grade 8 .........................

The number of English teachers .........................

Do they teach other subjects too? Yes No
The number of other language teachers (if any) .........................
How many of the English teachers used to be Russian teachers before the political changes?
.........................
Does the class teacher or the specialised English teacher teach the English language in
Grade 4? .........................
How many English lessons are in

Grade 1 .........................
Grade 2 .........................
Grade 3 .........................
Grade 4 .........................
Grade 5 .........................
Grade 6 .........................
Grade 7 .........................
Grade 8 .........................

How many children are in 1 English lesson in Grade 4? (please circle)

All class
Half of the class
Less than half of the class

Grade 4 classes learn English from

Book (name) …………………………..
From different resources (photocopied papers etc) …………………………..

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From other (please specify) …………………………..

I am planning to visit some schools in January 2005 and would like to talk to the English
teachers about their teaching methods, experience etc. If there are more than one English
teacher could you also please ask them if they are willing to talk to me?

Would you be willing to take part in a short interview with me in January 2005?

Teacher 1 Teacher 2 Teacher 3 Teacher 4

Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No

If yes please answer the following questions

Teacher 1 Teacher 2 Teacher 3 Teacher 4

Your name
In which class/es
G1 G2 G3 G4 G1 G2 G3 G4 G1 G2 G3 G4 G1 G2 G3 G4
do you teach
G5 G6 G7 G8 G5 G6 G7 G8 G5 G6 G7 G8 G5 G6 G7 G8
English?
When would be Morning Morning Morning Morning
the best time to Afternoon Afternoon Afternoon Afternoon
talk to you? Evening Evening Evening Evening
Where would be
In the school In the school In the school In the school
better to talk to
Outside school Outside school Outside school Outside school
you?
In January would
you let me visit
Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No
one of your
classes?
If so, could I
audio record your
lesson?
(with a small
Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No
walkman which
should not
disturb the lesson
much)
Could I talk to
the students after Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No
the lesson?
Are you Yes No Yes No Yes No Yes No
interested in any
workshops/talks,
slide show I can
do for the class or
for the teachers?
If yes, what?

Thank you for your co-operation.

Krisztina Nagy

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Appendix 5

Definitions

The mother tongue (L1) is a person’s first language. If a child is surrounded by

two different languages at home (e.g. parents having different mother tongues and
speaking both with the child, then both languages may be considered as “the mother
tongue”). The target language (L2) is the “new” additional language which is
learnt in the language classroom, and/or sometimes outside the classroom.
Second language learning is where the target language plays an institutional and
social role in the community (English learnt by foreigners in America, Britain), or
English learnt by the local people whose mother tongue is not English (e.g.
Zambia). Modern foreign language (MFL) learning is where the target language
plays no major role in the community and it is mostly learnt in the classrooms
(Ellis, 1994 : 12). This is the case in Hungary where the research has taken place.
A natural setting is where the L2 serves as the native language for the majority
(e.g. learners of L2 English in Britain), or where the L2 serves as an official
language when the majority speak some other language (e.g. L2 English in India).
The students learn the L2 outside the classroom. An educational setting is the
place where the L2 is taught, as in a school or in an institute, and the students learn
the L2 mostly in the classroom. Immersion is the method where the child is taught
through the medium of the L2. In these classrooms the pupils usually speak the
same L1 and the teacher/s usually speak both the L1 and L2.

A native speaker teacher is one whose mother tongue is the language s/he is
teaching as a second or foreign language. A non-native speaker teacher is one
whose mother tongue is not the language s/he is teaching as a second or foreign
language. A monolingual teacher is one who teaches the language of his/her
mother tongue as the modern foreign language, and does not speak the students’
mother tongue. This may be the case in Britain, with a native English speaking
teacher teaching English to foreign students, e.g. Italians, or the same teacher
teaching English in Italy to Italian students. A bilingual teacher is the one who is
competent in both the language s/he is teaching and the students’ mother tongue,
either by being the native speaker or by having a near native competence (Macaro
2005 : 63). These language teachers are either in their own country (in Hong Kong
for example) and have learnt the language they teach as a MFL, or they are in the
students’ native country, teaching their mother tongue, but they also mastered the
students’ mother tongue. Only the bilingual teacher is able to use both the language
they teach and the students’ mother tongue. All the teachers who participated in the
present study can be considered as bilingual teachers. They all have passed the
“Középfokú Nyelvvizsga” (a Hungarian Middle Exam, equivalent with the
Cambridge First Certificate Exam) or a similar exam, and they all had at least 2
years of training (either full time or part time) to learn how to teach English. The
training is in English, and the teachers are required to teach lessons in front of their
tutors. These lessons are usually required to be conducted entirely in English.

L1 use or mother tongue use is referred to in our study when a speaker is

switching between two languages, one being the mother tongue. In the context of

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this study, L1 is the Hungarian language, and the target language (L2) is English.
Some studies refer to the L1 use as code switching, code-mixing, or language
switching, but this can be misleading, as it is usually used in the bilingual or
multilingual context, suggesting a rapid alteration between the two languages, either
orally or in written form (Coste, 1997). In the language classrooms L1 use is
usually viewed differently from the bilingual/multilingual context, and
methodology books often suggest that it is a problem if it is used, and/or give
advice how to avoid using it (Scrivener, 1994, Willis, 1996). Some other terms
when used in the MFL context (especially the expression: recourse to L1) may also
imply that code switching in the classroom is undesirable or to be regretted
(Macaro, 2005).

Young learners in the literature are usually defined as between the age of 5-12, this
being equivalent with the British primary education. In Hungary lower primary age
is between 6-10 years, and upper primary is from 10-14. Our study only deals with
lower primary classes, so the age we refer to here as young learners is between 6-10
years old. We sometimes also use the words children, pupils or students as
equivalent to young learners.

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Appendix 6

Transcription conventions

R researcher
T teacher
S student
Ss students
T&S teacher & student
T&Ss teacher & students
Ss&C/V students and cassette/video
C/V cassette/video
Good morning. Reading from text
(orange hair) most likely word/s
(xxx xxx) word/s not audible
igen utterance in Hungarian
<yes> English gloss of Hungarian original
<“the town+ suffix my”> exact English translation of Hungarian word
(1.0) pause in seconds
^ rising intonation, cue
/ falling intonation
‘car’ the person is referring to the word ‘car‘
((writing on the board)) researcher’s comment

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Appendix 7

Lesson Transcripts

Lesson Franciska 1

1 T : good morning children ((blowing nose sound))

2 S : good morning teacher ((students start singing songs at once, even without
prompting from the teacher)) good morning good morning good morning to you
good morning good morning and how do you do
3 T : abc
4 Ss : ((singing)) a b c d e f g h i j k l n n o p q r s t u v w x y z abc ((during the singing
the teacher talks to individual students))
5 T : és hol van amit adtam a múlt órán?
6 S : nem adták oda
7 T : nem voltál itt a múlt órán de hát neked adta gyerekek ne szórakozzatok
8 Ss : a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w q r s t u v w x y z o talk to me a b c d e f
g
9 T : te is itt voltál hol van és hol van? (2.0) tessék ((during this time the students are
telling a rhyme))
10 Ss : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx) ((singing))
11 T : kérdeztem is hogy osszam ki behozzátok jó azt már nem kérem na egy
utolsót válasszunk
12 Ss : head and shoulders
13 T : head and shoulders jó de csak egyszer végig jó rajta
14 T&Ss : head and shoulders knees and toes knees and toes head and shoulders knees and
toes knees and toes and eyes and ears and mouth and nose head and shoulders
knees and toes knees and toes arms and legs and feet and hands feet and hands
arms and legs and feet and hands feet and hands and eyes and ears and mouth
and nose head and shoulders knees and toes knees and toes
15 T : jó na kérem szépen m ugye ott fejeztük be a múlt órán hogy (2.0) mondtunk
képeket arról a nagy plakátról milyen szerkezettel milyen igen milyen
szerkezetet tanulunk mostanság mi annak a?
16 S : there is there are
17 T : neve there is there are szerkezet ((lots of noise)) nem is tudom hova raktam
azt a plakátot múlt órán olyan rendetlenek voltatok ugye na most ezt
hagyjuk
18 S : az van lemásolva mert
19 T : nem baj hát színessel nem tudom lemásolni jó akkor most csak ezt nézzük jó
20 S : Franciska néni az nem az
21 T : de az köszönöm tessék jó múltkor nem nagyon ment ez a e ez ez a
mondatalkotás (3.0) ssss tessék igen de ezt így egyszerőbb most jó na
mindenki összeszedi minden okos gyerek összeszedi a gondolatait jól
megnézi a képet és megpróbálunk mondani mondatokat a képrıl jó na
mondjad
22 S : there is
23 T : mutatom ((teacher is taking the picture closer to the student to see better))
24 S : magyarul is lehet?
25 T : magyarul nem
26 S : there is one school
27 T : mutass rá
28 S : there are
29 T : there is one school in the picture or there is a school in the picture ok Norbi
30 S : there is one policeman
31 T : police station there is one police station? policeman yes there is one policeman in
the picture ok no próbálok úgy állni ha ide rakom látja mindenki hogy ne
kelljen itt látjátok ha ide teszem így látni na jó

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32 S : fogjam?
33 T : gyere fogjad
34 S : foghatom?
35 T : meg a Piri jó (2.0) így na köszi ti is azért mondhattok na gyorsan Józsi van-e
ötlet? (2.0) who can who can say a sentence in connection with the picture (2.0)
((laughter)) start your sentence with there is or there are (3.0) ok now any more
sentences in connection with the picture there are a lot of things there are a lot of
things in the picture Gábor Gábor
36 S : there are green
37 S : four
38 S : four green monsters
39 T : there are four green monsters very good (4.0) one two three four ((counting them
in the picture)) yes in the supermarket Mátyás
40 S : there is a supermarket
41 T : yes there is a supermarket in the street ok
42 S : there are a lot of monsters in the city
43 T : yes in the city ok Sanyi
44 S : there is police
45 T : a policeman yes
46 S : there is (xxxx xxxx)
47 T : ez már volt ez a mondat Viki
48 S : a there is blue monster there is one blue monster
49 T : monster^
50 S : monster in the bike
51 T : in the^
52 S : bike bike
53 T : on the bicycle here is no ah yes I can see here here it is yes ok now any more
sentences (3.0) there are lots of other things in the picture (2.0) Moncsi
54 S : here is here are
55 T : there are^
56 S : there are
57 T : there are^
58 S : one ? by the car
59 T : the^
60 S : ö
61 T : monster^
62 S : monster in
63 T : in the garage
64 S : in the car
65 T : in the garage yes one one of them is in the car and the other is (2.0) near the car
or by the car next to the car yes they are in the garage there are two violet^
66 S : two violet
67 T : can you finish the sentence there there are two violet monsters in the^
68 S : garage ((incorrect pronunciation))
69 T : garage garázsban vannak ok Mátyás
70 S : there are
71 S : there are m monster bicycle
72 T : ö yes there is a blue monster on a bike yes he is riding a bike ok wha what’s this
here on the bridge what is it
73 S : express
74 T : how do you say vonat in English
75 S : express
76 S : express
77 S : monster express
78 T : how do you say vonat in English? vonat tanultuk a vonatot
79 Ss : nem nem
80 T : it begins it begins with t
81 S : nem tanultuk
82 T : the second letter is r train nem tanultuk a vonatot? dehogy nem
83 S : no

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84 Ss : nem
85 T : train
86 Ss : nem
87 T : nem tanultuk?
88 S : no
89 Ss : no no
90 T : ok
91 Ss : no no
92 T : én szerintem igen
93 S : nem tanultuk
94 T : ok train (2.0) train vonat ö mit írtam?
95 S : van
96 S : van
97 S : öhö azt már tanultuk
98 T : igen (2.0) sorry train vonat ok now Mátyás
99 S : there is two
100 T : there are^
101 S : there are
102 T : two^
103 S : the there are two (5.0) ez
104 T : ö this there are two burglars or I don’t know
105 S : erre gondoltam
106 T : who they are ö he they are monsters they are mon all of them are monsters ok
now thank you very much? egy versike is ı van a plakáton amit ti
megkaptatok nem olyan szép színes de a két oldalán rajta van ez a versike
pontosan errıl az utcáról szól errıl a városról ahol ezek a szörnyek laknak
illetve élnek meg cselekednek az a címe hogy^
107 S : monster
108 T : the monster street mit jelent az the monster street?
109 S : szörnyváros
110 S : szörnyváros
111 T : a szörnyvá a szörnyutca a szörnyutca mi a város angolul a város city ugye ez
meg street jó sajnos ugye nincs meg az egész plakát csak a vers de utána le
fogjuk ellenırizni hogy valóban minden igaz-e amit a versben írnak
olvassuk csak el az elsı versszakot csak magadban olvasd neked hol van
kicsim ez amit múlt órán megkaptál jó reggelt kívánok most vesszük el?
(2.0) ö Olivér mit csinálsz mostmár figyeljél jó hol van ez? Gábor?
112 S : nekem nincs meg
113 T : jó hol van azt mondtam ugye hogy mindenki hozza el a következı órára add
oda neki és most már többet nem adok mert nincs nem is lesz elfogy (3.0) no
így szól az elsı versszak már a szemeddel egyszer átolvastad (4.0) ((laughter))
the waiter in the café is a big blue monster
114 S : nem itt kezdıdik Franciska néni
115 S : itt kezdıdik Franciska néni
116 S : igen
117 T : ó sorry yes
118 S : strange ((reading from the first line))
119 T : igen mert most így össze-vissza van ez nekünk egy kicsit azt találtam ki hogy
ide teszem így akkor közelebb lesz hozzátok így csak eldıl így a táblát most
már tulajdonképpen csak a képet kell látni ((teacher is trying to show the
poster to the whole class but as the classroom is long and there are 2 rows of
desks in it it is difficult to hold it in a way that everybody can see it))
120 S : de így mi nem látjuk
121 T : hát ti meg úgy nem látjátok mm ı Piri csak addig üljetek ide oda a Piri oda
meg a Mátyás jó és akkor
122 S : ide üljön a Mátyás ((distraction as the class is enjoying a bit of movement))
123 S : inkább oda üljön a Mátyás jó?
124 S : igen oda üljön a Mátyás
125 S : inkább a Norbi mellé üljön a Mátyás
126 S : igen inkább a Norbi mellé üljön a Mátyás

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127 S : Franciska néni mi se látjuk (2.0) huhuhuhu

128 T : hova tegyem?
129 S : ide jöjjön valaki
130 T : jó nem merem megkockáztatni hogy jöjjön ide mindenki mert múltkor
olyan olyan rosszul vise olyan csúnyán viselkedtetek hogy (4.0) hát cellux
van de az meg messze van akkor a tá a táblától (8.0) ((chatting)) jó akkor
visszajöhet a Piri
akkor nem baj hogyha csendbe vagytok igen
131 S : Piri gyere ide
132 T : jó (4.0) na akkor fogjátok hát csak látjátok ti is fölkapcsoljuk a lámpát (4.0)
közelebb is nem kell a táblához akkor gyertek közelebb így így jó na így jó
így jó jó na figyelj (4.0) ez olyan mint egy mese próbáljuk a kép alapján
kitalálni hogy hogy ı mirıl is mirıl is ı van szó az az Erik pedig ide jön jó
mert ott nincs ö addig csak addig
133 S : Franciska néni
134 S : pont az én helyemre
135 T : igen igen így így tudtam lefénymásoltatni na de most már olyan sok idı
elment ezzel hogy most már haladjunk gyere gyorsan jó na figyelj sss (3.0)
((teacher reading the story)) in a strange strange land there is a strange strange
town and in a strange strange town there is a strange strange street ((laugher)) it’s
a tongue twister and the strange strange street is full of hairy monsters (2.0)
((laughter)) ez a strange szó nagyon nagyon sokszor elıfordul a versben ez azt
jelenti hogy furcsa na milyen ez a mi mirıl szólt az elsı versszak ez a
kulcsszó (2.0) igen (2.0) furcsa ((chatting)) majd a végén leírjuk jó? (3.0)
most csak nézd a szöveget (2.0) no (2.0) van-e ötleted hogy mirıl szólt az elsı
versszak? (3.0) jó (3.0) ((chatting)) nincs ötlet (12.0) ((lots of chat)) nem nem
jó a Kovacs Mátyás fekete pont
136 S : de miért?
137 T : nem indoklom mert nem nem tudok tıletek megint tanítani gyerekek mert
mert beszélgettek jó a Józsi fekete (2.0) jó ı Olivér végig rajzolgatott nem
figyel egyáltalán fekete és most pirosat szeretnék innentıl kezdve osztogatni
(2.0) jó az kap pirosat aki aki körülbelül el tudná mondani mirıl mi mi volt
aze na ugye most már tessék (4.0) ((chatting and laughter)) igen az elsı
versszak Szilvia milyen ez a mi volt a strange jelentése?
138 S : furcsa
139 T : furcsa egy ilyen furcsa na Gábor (5.0) nem kell szó szerint ez ez ez mirıl szólt
ez az elsı versszak (3.0) nem (2.0) egy furcsa arról szól hogy van egy furcsa
város ahol mik vannak?
140 S : szörnyek
141 T : szörnyek ı it’s full of hairy monsters milyen egy szörny? láttál már szörnyet?
142 S : én igen
143 T : milyen volt?
144 S : tök király
145 T : a bıre (3.0) ((chatting)) szırös szırös szırös kicsit állj arrébb ((student who is
holding the poster is covering it from the view))
146 S : Franciska néninek megmutatom az egyik szörnyet itt van (10.0) ((chatting))
147 T : tessék ez leesett a székrıl (5.0) jó (2.0) jó? Olivér hogy sikerült leesned a
székrıl angolórán mikor nyugton ülsz? jó ok na kérem szépen
148 S : Franciska néni én már láttam szörnyet tök szép volt és?
149 T : akkor az nem volt szörny (3.0)
150 S : úgy nézett ki mint egy kenguru
151 T : jó köszönjük tehát jó hogy hogyan fordítanánk le az elsı mondatot most
már mondatonként soronként Gábor tessék csak magyarul mondd légy
szíves (5.0) mi a town? azt tudjuk Józsi (3.0)
152 S : város
153 S : város
154 T : és a furcsa furcsa (4.0) rengeteg tele van mivel szırös szörnyekkel mire
emlékeztet benneteket ez a vers? (2.0) nem tanultunk egy nem tanultunk egy
hasonlót nem ugrik be?
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156 T : nem
157 S : ahol van
158 T : igen ugyanez a
159 S : sötét
160 T : ugyanez a
161 S : Franciska Franciska néni ((shouting))
162 T : menete ugye
163 S : Franciska néni az a családos már az is
164 T : igen egy furcsa furcsa erdıben egy egy furcsa furcsa i igen sötét sötét nem
furcsa sötét sötét erdıben igen jó na nézzük a következı versszakot fusd át a
szemeddel melyik szót szeretnéd meg ö ı Józsikám menjél innen ki légy
szíves üljél ott kint le jó sajnos nem tudunk tıled tanítani ne haragudjál
(3.0) elnevezzük ıt az osztály szörnyének ((laughter)) mert nem lehet tıle
tanítani ((laughter))
165 S : Franciska néni kiszínezhetem?
166 T : hát most ne színezgesd majd utána jó minden szót ismerünk akkor ezek
szerint ha nincs kéz a levegıben? school?
167 S : iskola
168 T : iskola shop?
169 S : iskola
170 T : shop (2.0) üzlet mi a station?
171 S : állomás
172 T : állomás így van az sem új street?
173 S : utca
174 T : cinema?
175 S : mozi
176 T : park? ((English pronunciation))
177 S : park ((Hungarian pronunciation))
178 S : park ((Hungarian pronunciation))
179 T : jó ezt mind tudjuk két szó van amit nem tudunk daylight és a dark jó
180 S : daylight
181 S : azt tudjuk
182 T : azt tudjuk az^ ?
183 S : napvilág ((translating it phonetically))
184 T : Napvilág így van nappal amikor süt a nap
185 S : Franciska néni a cinema
186 T : azt is írjam? mozi (3.0) ((teacher is writing on the blackboard)) mozi jó (5.0)
aki ı meg van bízva ugye az csöndbe van és nem jó amit kérdezel mit
kérdeztél? után sötétedés után (3.0) no így szól a második versszak ugye az
összes szót tudjuk most már ı figyelj a szemeddel még van ám sok úgyhogy
(2.0) ((teacher reading)) there are monsters in the school and monsters in the
shop there are monsters in the station and monsters in the street there are
monsters in the cinema and monsters in the park monsters in the daylight and
monsters after dark (2.0) mikor (3.0) találhatók ezek a szörnyek mirıl szólt a
második versszak? (3.0) állomás?
187 S : az iskolában (2.0)
188 T : na mondja egy akkor ıı (3.0) ((teacher is turning the pages in the class diary I
think)) ki szeretné fordítani Balázskám te olyan ügyes szoktál lenni nem
próbálod meg? ((group laughter)) ne nem gá há csak Gábor úgy látszik
189 S : a Balázs
190 T : ı kap majd piros pontot már meg is kapja
191 S : kicsoda?
192 T : a Balá a Gábor
193 S : miért?
194 T : ıı mert nagyon ügyes tessék
195 S : vannak szörnyek
196 T : a Gábor
197 S : az iskolában
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199 T : igen tapasztaltuk ugye ki is küldtük az egyiket (3.0) megvan az ötösöd Gábor
beírjuk majd jó vannak szörnyek az iskolában tovább
200 S : szörnyek az üzletben
201 T : az üzletekben
202 S : vannak szörnyek a ((laughter))
203 T : sss
204 S : állomáson (5.0) vannak szörnyek a moziban (4.0) és szörnyek a parkban
szörnyek
205 T : daylight nappal és (2.0) jó nem baj majd mindjárt visszaülünk
206 S : szörnyek nappal és szörnyek a sötétben
207 T : sötétedés után jó ö majd fogok kérni ellenırzıket a tiedet mindenképpen ö
majd az Piri nénit? meg az övét akit kiküldtem ((Józsi)) jó na jó azt arról még
nem volt szó na kérem szépen (2.0) maradt még három versszakunk (3.0)
inkább négyet ı ezt most már nem vesszük a mai órán hanem a házi feladat
hogy otthon próbáld meg lefordítani tessék odaírni hogy mit is látunk még
ezen a a a a képen mirıl szól még a versike amit jól megnéztünk ugye ezt a
szörny utcát ezt már megbeszéltük otthon böngészd át hogy mirıl szól még a
vers jó tessék (2.0) amit nem vettünk az összeset ugye ö vettük a két
versszakot maradt még négy azt odahaza nézzétek meg
208 S : Franciska néni oda mi van írva?
209 T : ı
210 S : napvilág
211 T : daylight
212 S : napvilág
213 T : daylight és leír jó köszönöm szépen helyre mehetsz átírom jó lehet hogy itt
nem tudtam a plakáttól írni egy picit lehet hogy csúnya ezt nem tudtad
elolvasni
214 S : igen
215 T : mi ezt úgy fordítottuk a versben hogy nappal és a cinema az pedig a mozi
(2.0) van-e még kérés amit írjunk le az elsı két versszakból amit vettünk
(2.0) a dark-ot azt mondtátok hogy tanultuk az így van after dark sötétedés
után station
állomás ö most már menjél vissza a helyedre de rendesen jó köszönöm (2.0)
station (3.0) állomás ((writing on the board)) (2.0) jó na kérem szépen ha
leírtad és elraktad ezt odahaza ugye ezt folytatod ((pupil asking meanwhile))
216 S : mikor kapjuk meg a dolgozatokat?
217 T : (3.0) ((teacher writing on the board during pause)) ö a tiedet mindjárt kiadom
fiam ((cynical way)) jó (4.0) elıveszed a füzetedet take your exercise book open
your exercise book
218 S : és akinek nincs itt?
219 T : na tessék az megkapja a feketéjét jó (2.0) Kovács Mátyás kinek nincs még
füzete? (3.0)
220 S : Gyurinak miért nem?
221 T : nyugodtan adhattam volna feketét mindenkinek aki mára ezt sem hozta el
ugye
222 S : de én azért nem hoztam el mert nem találtam
223 T : nem érdekel tessék ((writing black point into her diary))
224 S : nincsen füzetem
225 T : fekete ((writing black point into her diary))
226 S : de én nem voltam itt a múlt órán azért (3.0) Franciska néni nem voltam itt a
múlt órán
227 T : de akkor itt voltál amikor kiosztottam
228 S : nem voltam itt
229 T : de igen
230 Ss : nem nem volt itt mert beteg volt
231 T : beteg voltál?
232 S : nem agybeteg ((laughter follows this remark))
233 S : ı mindig az
234 S : agybeteg
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in her diary and in Hungarian the surname comes first))

236 S : Xxxx
237 T : Xxxx jó megvan (2.0) na kérem szépen ö leírjuk hogy lesson nem érkezett
meg a napló nem tudom hányadik óra van
238 S : én tudom
239 T : most nem majd nem fontos írj eggyel eggyel többet mint a múltkor írtunk jó
leírjuk címnek there is there are (3.0) ((teacher writing on the board in this
pause and after)) there are ezt is aláhúzzuk (3.0) és most már olyan sokat
foglalkoztunk ı ezzel ugye hogy ı most már önállóan a vers alapján a ı a ı a
az elmondott példák alapján amit itt ı közösen ugye mondtunk önállóan
megpróbálunk mondatokat alkotni tessék
240 S : óraszámot nem kell írni?
241 T : mm tessék elmondtam hogy nem tudom fejbıl hányadik óra nem érkezett
meg a napló ne foglalkozzál vele vagy eggyel többet írsz mint múlt órán vagy
pedig nem írsz majd pótoljuk nem ez a legfontosabb kérdés hogy hányadik
óra most (2.0) hairy az a szırös hairy aki még ott tart ugye a hair a haj (2.0)
de szır is és a hair-bıl képzett melléknév a szırös jó de mostmár ezen túl
vagyunk a szótárba már rég le kellett írni
242 S : de én tartottam ((the student was holding the picture that is why s/he could not
write it down))
243 T : ja te tartottad az rendbe van jó na kérem szépen akkor most mindenki ezt ı
tedd el légy szíves (4.0) mindenki megpróbál a there is szerkezettel írni
körülnézel az osztályban mit látsz három mondatot ugye ott ı amikor there
is-zel kezdıdik a mondat mindig hány dologról írsz a mondatban? (3.0)
egyes egy dolgot egyes számban van a fınév ugye amikor there are-ral
kezded a mondatot akkor igen több több dologról írsz és ı hogyan szerepel a
fınév a mondatban ismételjük csak át a fınév ilyenkor hogyan szerepel a
mondatban? (2.0) többes számban ugye miután egynél többrıl többes
számban írsz így van jó most már akkor csöndet kérek tessék gondolkodni
körülnézni az osztály tárgyaival vagy személyeivel bármivel kapcsolatban
három három három dolgot három három mondatot most már nem
beszélünk azt hiszem hogy mindent elmondtam Kim Balázsé lesz a következı
intı
244 S : Franciska néni a tábla az egynek számít? ((there are three parts of the board))
245 T : hát ö szerintem vegyük egynek jó most az össze van rakva ez egy tábla jó a
tábla egy abból egy van (11.0) ((teacher walking round for the first seven
seconds)) most nem a szörny ö városról vagy szörnyutcáról írunk hanem az
osztályteremrıl
246 S : (xxxx xxxx?)
247 T : hát igen (4.0) kicsim ha nincsen füzeted akkor egy lapra írsz nem gondolod
hogy te most lógatod ha lapod sincsen? (3.0) mid van mid van?
248 S : hát
249 T : mit hoztál angolórára?
250 S : hát az angolkönyveket (9.0) ((teacher is walking around))
251 S : Franciska néni szörnygyereket be lehet írni?
252 T : szörny neveket?
253 S : nem gyereket?
254 T : ja szörnygyereket ((laughter)) ne ((laughter again)) (4.0) ceruzája sincs (7.0)
((a sigh of sadness in second 3 and walking to Balázs))
255 S : Franciska néni azt jól írtam hogy there is one bar on the board?
256 T : az nagyon jó az nagyon szép mondat így van a Balázsnak már van egy
nagyon jó mondata Szilvi egyedül dolgozunk jó nem mondja meg mert
akkor (2.0) mindenki lemásolná ugye nem ezt most titkos (5.0) ((teacher
walking from second 3 in this pause)) megyek körbe és aki ügyes már van egy-
két jó mondata az kaphat piros pontot de ahol beszéd van oda nem megyek
(2.0) ((walking)) Piri ((going up to her))
257 S : Franciska néni
258 T : ezt lehet írni hát írjad írjad írjad írjad írjad majd
259 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx?)
260 T : persze (8.0) ((teacher walking around)) te mire vársz kisfiam? ja

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261 S : folyóírással kell betővel (2.0)

262 T : na (4.0) mi baj van?
263 S : nyomtatott betővel ír
264 T : mi közöd hozzá hadd írjon úgy ahogy akar én már tudom hogy a Norbi
nyomtatottal ír elfogadtam kész az nem a te dolgod (9.0) most egy vagy hat
mert akkor a mondat nem stimmel és akkor nem a van hanem
265 S : (xxxx xxxx)
266 T : tudom igen (4.0)
267 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
268 T : bizony igen igen igen (8.0)
269 S : hogy írják?
270 T : leírom a táblára így írják tizenkettıt na (4.0) ((writing)) twelve (4.0) de ha
számmal írod elfogadom mert most nem a számok írása végülis a számok
gyakorlása a feladat hanem hogy jól használd ezt a szerkezetet poster poster
(18.0)
271 S : hogy írjam az utolsó mondatot mire írjam?
272 T : in the classroom (3.0) ugye az osztályban az osztályteremben van (5.0) na
hadd nézzem ((teacher reading the sentences)) there is one on the board there is
one rubber on the a falon van a radír ((smile)) on the table there there is there is
one red pencil akkor is egy egy piros és egy na ha there is one akkor nem lehet
are elıtte azt javítsd ki jó hadd nézzem there is one board on the wall? there
are six lamps mm em a falon vannak a lámpák there are six lamps in the
classroom inkább azt írd jó
273 S : de van
274 T : twelve tables egyet
275 S : nem sok
276 T : there are twelve tables in the class ne válaszd el jó ezt ı radírozd ki és írd ide
hogy classroom jó a Balázs egészen ügyes ı kap egy piros pontot eddig ı (4.0)
jó Sanyi az az egy mondatod van?
277 S : (xxxx)
278 T : children az már többes szám ezt húzd le (2.0) children (2.0) gyerekek mi a ö a
children-nek az egyes száma?
279 S : child ((bad pronunciation))
280 T : child ugye az az egyes szám rendhagyó többes szám children az nem childrens
((wrong pronunciation)) mert olyan nincsen (4.0) on the wall gondolom az jó
volt there is one most vagy ez vagy ez vagy ez vagy ez vagy határozott ı
határozatlan névelı vagy ugye ö beg vagy one bag te válaszd ki melyiket
érted Szilvi
281 S : igen mert ez itt szám
282 T : vagy azt mondod hogy egy mint szám vagy egy mint határozatlan névelı
pencil box az pencil case c a s e a case hogy van az ı Ákos c a s e (2.0) le tudod
írni?
283 S : (xxxx xxxx)
284 T : jó az is (3.0) jó kötıjel (4.0) itt jártam (6.0) there is one board on the wall
mondjuk azt oda lehetne írni ugye hogy a falon (6.0) vagy ez vagy ez a kettı
együtt nem jó vagy azt írod hogy there is a table vagy there is one table (2.0) in
the classroom most egy osztályteremben vagyunk ugye ott van látod az ajtón
English classroom a classroom az osztályterem azzal fejezheted be a mondatot
(2.0) there are five ha öt van belıle akkor a fınév (2.0) akkor nem kell
radírozni akkor (2.0) többes szám mit kell utána írni mit? ((pupil writing the
s on the board)) egy s-t így van there are six és ugyanaz windows ((teacher
stressing the s)) így van (4.0) neked hol a füzeted miért nem hoztad? tudom
hogy jelentetted csak miért nincsen tessék?
285 S : otthon hagytam
286 S : hagytad vagy felejtetted? (2.0) nem ugyanaz (2.0) there’s a blackboard in the ö
classroom ott van leírva
287 S : de ugye hogy a parkot nem is tanultuk
288 T : de tanultuk
289 T : de tanultuk ha ten lamp akkor többes szám
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291 T : lamps (10.0) ((checking sentences)) igen csak piros van nálam adsz egy kéket?
there is one board in the classroom there are a lot of (2.0) poster ha sok van
belıle az is többes szám in the classroom jó ez lehet piros miért beszélgetsz
Lakatos Gabi jó és a naplót ha lehozod szaladj föl a naplóért jó és akkor be is
írom
292 S : én nem mehetek föl a naplóért
293 T : nem? (4.0)
294 S : kiesett valami
295 T : jó egy pillanat
296 S : had nézzem meg
297 T : miért néznéd már meg nem rád tartozik there are sixteen children in the
classroom
298 S : tehát az osztályban van
299 T : there is one lamp on the wall jó és ennyit írtál összesen nulla mondatot
300 S : én írtam
301 T : nem tudtál egyetlen egy mondatot leírni?
302 S : én írtam
303 S : én írtam
304 T : (7.0) in the classroom ha egy picit errébb tetted volna akkor kifér there is one
lamp on the wall jó ez jó (3.0) jó na kérem szépen ı hát nagyon vegyes
305 S : Franciska néni
306 T : igen (5.0) mit mit kell úgy írni hatot hát azt azt azt nem a számot kell többes
számba tenni hanem a tárgyat a hat az hat az fix azt nem kell
307 S : (xxxx xxxx windows?)
308 T : az három ablak jó egy kettı három (3.0) there is one board on the wall there is
one rubber on the o ö on the on the table nem a a táblán van a radír hanem az
asztalon there is one blue pencil benne van in in the pencil box five posters on
the wall there are sixteen children on ö on the chair jó kaphatsz te is egy piros
pontot (4.0) na kérem szépen azért jó lett volna ha mindenki legalább kettı
darab mondatot tudott volna írni nem tudom elfogadni Kis Viktor hogy
egyet sem írtál na tegyék csak fel a kezüket akik piros pontot kaptak jó te
nem kaptál jó na halljuk akkor a példamondatokat mondjuk ı mindjárt
megnézem akkor jó mert utána már elmentem ı nem tudtam a tiedet
megnézni Németh Ákos utána írtad le ıket (3.0) figyelj figyelj aki nem tudott
írni az most figyeljen
309 S : there is one board on the wall there are five posters on the wall ((reading))
310 S : a szekrény az mi angolul?
311 T : most figyeltél hogy mit mondott vagy belekiabálsz?
312 S : igen valami
313 T : jó még egyszer olvasd el css
314 S : there are five poster on the wall
315 T : posters on the wall
316 S : there are sixteen children on the chair
317 T : sitting on the chair ok köszönöm
318 S : there is one lamp on the wall
319 T : yes
320 S : there is one red pencil
321 T : one red pencil and
322 S : a blue pencil in
323 T : and one blue pencil in the
324 S : box (4.0)
325 T : Lakatos Gabi kapott ötöst ugye jó (3.0) jó na még egy példára egy egy
gyerekre van idı hogy felolvassa a jó mondatait Gábor (8.0) majd
megbeszéljük
326 S : there are sixteen children in the classroom (8.0)
327 T : jó igen (2.0) jó Magyar Erik ı ellenı jó küld be légy szíves ıt
328 S : Józsit
329 T : a Józsit (3.0) gyerekek van még az órából körülbelül nulla perc ı megint
értékelem a az órát szeretném értékelni (2.0) én mondtam a Kriszti néninek
hogy szerintem ma is rém rosszak lesztek mert hogy az elsı órát ugye kint

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töltöttétek az udvaron nem volt veletek senki tehát én mindig kifogom

amikor ilyen zőrös nap van a következı gyerekek megint nem bírtak
magukkal és most már sajnos az ellenırzıjüket el fogom kérni ı Józsi
Magyar Erik Kovacs Mátyás (3.0) Kim Balázs figyeltél eddig négy Alekszandra
(4.0) a többiek többiek sem voltak nagyon jók de ık kimagaslóan rosszul
viselkedtek ı azért voltak akik szépen dolgoztak akik ki édesem én még
mondom hova ez a nagy igyekezet hova ez a nagy igyekezet szerintem
belefér ez még nem hogy ezt így végigmondjam jó ı mikor kapom meg az öt
em Szilvia légy szíves ettıl az öt embertıl bevasalod és a a következı
szünetben kérem ıket jó vagy most is le lehet hozni
330 S : nekem nincs itt
331 T : és mért nincs?
332 S : nekem sincs
333 T : jó akkor helyetted mondjuk a Németh Ákos lesz a felelıs írd le légy szíves a
neveket gyorsan még egyszer ı Józsi Balázs Kim Balázs
334 S : nekem sincs
335 T : ez az hogy semmi Magyar Erik csak rendetlen voltál Magyar Erik ı (3.0) a
Hajóst is nyugodtan írd föl az lesz a hatodik (4.0) Kovács Mátyás
336 S : igen
337 T : ı is Alekszandra (4.0) az Olivért még hozzávesszük az elıbb valahogy
kimaradt azzal együtt hat tehát egy kettı három négy öt hat
338 S : megvan
339 T : megvan az ı ellenırzıjüket kérem
340 S : (xxxx)
341 T : akkor az üzenıjüket kérjem el hogyha nincsen nem ı a leckét tudod ugye
megbeszéltük és és akkor mindenkinek szép napot good bye have a nice day
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Lesson Franciska 2

1 T : sit down please sit down silence (3.0) amíg Kriszti néni itt van addig nem majd
utána nem nem óra van (3.0) hát irgum burgum vaslapát de ez az óra ez mindig
van ez nem rendkívüli óra most ugye? ez órarendbe van jó na kérem szépen si sit
down silence please múltkor nem kaptam hat ellenızıt ki volt a felelıs? a Szilvi
2 S : nem a (xxxx)
3 T : hat ellenırzıt kellett volna kapjak, ugye?
4 S : (xxxx) nekem (xxxx)
5 T : jó én már az Piri nénivel beszéltem a mai órán lehet javítani (2.0) aki mint egy
kisangyal úgy fog viselkedni és még szárnyakat is növeszt annak esetleg nem
írom be az intıt jó anélkül is menni fog jó? na jó silence please
6 S : megmutathatom Franciska néninek?
7 T : nem tessék lerakni most kivételesen teleszájjal nem tudunk se énekelni se
beszélni egyetlen egy nótát fogunk csak énekelni majd jó? good a good afternoon
children
8 Ss : good afternoon
9 T : na melyik dal legyen? (2.0) ((pupils are laughing)) head and shoulders jó?
közkívánatra és
10 S : (xxxx?)
11 T : nem egyszer végig rajta
12 T&Ss : head and shoulders knees and toes knees and toes head and shoulders knees and toes
knees and toes and eyes and ears and mouth and nose head and shoulders knees and
toes knees and toes arms and legs and feet and
13 Ss : hands feet and hands arms and legs and feet and hands feet and hands and arms and
ears and mouth
14 T&Ss : and nose head and shoulders knees and toes knees and toes
15 T : na utoljára vesszük elı a plakátot ugye az volt a házi feladat csak szóbeli volt
hogy nézd meg a verset próbáld meg kitalálni hogy még mirıl szólt és aki leírta
az meg majd külön ugye jutalmat fog kapni no mirıl szólt mirıl egyáltalán
mondjuk csak el (2.0) Takács Balázs mondjuk el hogy ı miért vettük elı ezt a
verset? Mirıl tanulunk mostanába még egy-két órán ker nem a szörnyekrıl
hanem a
16 S : a város
17 T : hogy mondják azt nyelvtani szerkezetet
18 Ss : there is there are
19 T : there is there are jól van látod ha figyelsz milyen ügyes vagy there is there are
szerkezetrıl tanulunk és arról szól a vers hogy ebben a városban
20 S : milyen szörnyek vannak
21 S : mik vannak
22 T : mi van vagy mik vannak na jó nézzük akkor ugye? Az elsı elsı versszakot meg a
másodikat itt lefordítottuk csak ugy ismétlésképen mirıl szólt az elsı második
versszak? csak magyarul nagyjából
23 S : magyarul mondjam?
24 T : csak magyarul igen
25 S : a különös különös város nem a land az a
26 T : hát a kü egy különös különös földön vagy
27 S : földön
28 T : vá
29 S : van a egy különös különös város a különös különös városban ? vagy egy van egy
különös utca a különös különös utcában? m
30 T : felszerelés
31 S : tele van ı szörnyekkel
32 T : igen tovább még azt az egyet
33 S : ja vannak
34 T : és és és ezek a szörnyek hol találhatók? vannak
35 S : vannak olyan szörnyek akik az iskolába
36 T : igen
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38 T boltokban
39 S : vannak szörnyek akik az állomáson vannak szörnyek akik az utcában vanak
szörnyek akik a moziban
40 T : vannak
41 S : van? van szörny aki a parkban van
42 T : igen
43 S : és? van a világosba szörny meg a sötétbe
44 T : igen és innentıl kezdıdött a lecke na ki az aki meg tudott bírkózni a második
versszakkal? mondjad Balázs
45 S : a pincér
46 T : mi? igen
47 S : a nagy (xxxx) szörny e a tanár az iskola nagy szürke szörny e a rendır a (xxxx)
nagy barna szörny e a nıvér a kórház piros és kék
48 T : szörny e igen na meg tudod mutatni ıket? A pincért aki milyen színő? keresd
csak meg mert te ilyen ügyesen lefordítottad (2.0) aha aztán? (2.0) a tanárt
keresd csak meg where is the teacher? Aha aki aki ugye szürke aztán a rendırt
keressük meg
49 S : ott van
50 T : barna
és aztán a nıvérke
51 S : az ott van
52 T : aha
aki piros és kék
így van
53 S : és zöld
54 S : akkor sötétbe lévı szörny
55 T : igen igen
56 S : meg a világosba is
57 T : igen igen na következı versszakkal ki az aki (2.0)
te most voltál na Flóra
58 S : (xxxx)
59 T : felszerelés? felszerelés? (2.0) na hogy
60 S : ıı négy ı zöld ı mm szörny van ö dolgozik a szupermarket^
61 T : igen
62 S : ^ben ?
63 T : meg is tudod mutatni?
64 S : a szupermarket az itt van
65 T : igen
66 S : egy kettı három négy
67 T : igen jó aztán?
68 S : akkor ı mm van ö három m kék szörny aki aa bankban dolgozik
69 T : Igen hol a bank? gyorsan keressük meg where is the bank?
70 S : igen
71 T : in the picture? yes here it is and ö can you count the monsters? One two how many
how many monsters are there in the bank?
72 S : Franciska néni
73 S : hát three
74 S : nekem az angolkönyvem nincsen itt
75 T : jó akkor csak nagyon figyelj jó?
76 S : three blue monsters
77 T : three yes one two three ok
78 S : ı van két nagy ö mm lila szörny aki aa a gará garázsban dolgozik
79 T : where is the garage? yes two big
80 S : és ö
81 T : purple monsters
82 S : van egy ö rózsaszín
83 T : ok
84 S : szörny aki a faluban dolgozik
85 S : egy
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87 S : kicsi szörny
88 T : yes
89 S : egy
90 T : yes
91 S : kicsi szörny akkor itt van
92 T : aha yes
93 S : igen a varázsfő
94 T : very nice ok
95 S : harmadik versszak?
96 T : következıt na más is dolgozzon szeretném Gábor ide is jöhetsz a füzeteddel és
mutathatod (4.0) leírtad vagy csak tudod? na gyere akkor gyere gyere
97 S : (xxxx xxxx)
98 T : szaladj gyorsan egyébként nagyon ügyesek vagytok nem is gondoltam hogy ilyen
ügyesen lefordítjátok jó ez jön ugye? there are monsters in the cars and vans mm mi
mi hol hol vannak a szörnyek?
99 S : van
100 T : vannak
101 S : vannak szörnyek az autóban
102 T : mi az a van? megnézted otthon a szótárban?
103 S : teherautó
104 T : aha olyan kisteherautó ugye?
105 S : a teherautókban
106 T : mutat mutatnád? Mert nem látom segítenél? aha aha és hol van az a
kisteherautócska?
107 S : hát a az?
108 T : ig meee igen
109 S : szerintem az a izé
110 T : igen
111 S : az a kocsi és ez a teherautó
112 T : nem ez inkább a van ez jó aztán? (2.0) ö monsters from the train szörnyek a^
113 S : a vonaton
114 T : mi a train?
115 S : vonat
116 T : azt múltkor le is írtam a táblára ugye azt mondtátok hogy nem tanultátok how
many monsters are there in the train? can you count the monsters? One one two mi az
hogy mi az hogy count? melyik igénk az? (2.0)
117 S : count az aa
118 T : számolni can you can count?
119 S : count one
120 T : one
121 S : two
122 T : yes ok
123 S : vannak szörnyek
124 T : kik mit csinálnak?
mi az hogy ride a bike?
125 S : bicikliznek
126 T : where are they? where are they? who are riding a bike?
127 S : ı
128 T : yes for example here here it is a monster who is riding a bike yes? (3.0) ok? na már
nem sok van
129 S : szörnyek repülnek a repülıvel
130 T : ı e monsters flying planes mi az hogy to fly a plane to fly a plane?
131 S : repülnek a repülıvel
132 T : ı repülıt vezetnek to fly a plane jó? azt azt leírom nektek mindjárt a táblára
(xxxx)
133 S : (xxxx)
134 T : a fly-t igen de repülıt azt is leírtuk hogy repülıt vezetni ok akkor ezt tudni kell
jó na mondjad köszönöm (2.0)
135 S : left and right are monsters ı van a ı van jobbra balra is van
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137 S : mindenhol szörnyek vannak

138 T : jobbra balra így van
139 S : esznek ı esznek a esznek ö a
140 T : mit esznek?
141 S : hamburgert édességet meg ö (xxxx) fagyit
142 T : igen
143 S : és ı amikor
144 S : mi az hogy human?
145 S : az az ember
146 T : az az ember de amikor
147 S : amikor amikor ıket
148 T : mindenki figyel ugye? aki otthon nem annyira nézte meg az fıleg de mikor
embert látnak akkor
149 S : amikor embert látnak akkor ı si hallgatják a sikításukat?
150 T : akkor sikítanak és úgy sikítanak ahogy a végén jól van no majd ı lehet hogy
annak ellenére hogy azt mondtam hogy nem mégegyszer elıvesszük és angolul is
egy picit gyakoroljuk de most ı szorít az idı?
151 S : miért?
152 T : mennénk tovább viszont szeretném jutalmazni azokat akik nagyon ügyesek
voltak és ezt szépen lefordították kérek egy piros tollat én nem találom can I have
a red pen please? can can you give me a red pencil or pen pen? (2.0) thank you jó
akkor nagyon ügyes volt a Donga Flóra it’s a red point? Lakatos Gabi it is a red
point? Balázs (2.0) és a (xxxx) ügyes volt meg a Szilvi
153 S : ı hát ık nem szóltak egy szót se ık (xxxx xxxx)
154 S : (xxxx xxxx)
155 T : majd megbeszéljük na megyünk
156 S : Flóra
157 S : jaj nem (xxxx)
158 T : jó, amiért ilyen ügyesek voltatok akkor most nagyon jó kis feladatokat hoztam?
((teacher is giving students photocopied pages to give out))
159 S : Franciska néni én még nem osztottam feladatot (xxxx)
160 T : egy fiú egy lány úgy igazságos a maradékot kérem vissza (12.0) ok (4.0)
161 S : Franciska néni lehet szinezni a (xxxx?)
162 T : nem még nem lehet szinezni ceruzád sincs? (5.0)
163 S : Franciska néni ezt még nem kaptam mert Szilvi nem adott (2.0)
164 T : ki nem kapott még? írd rá a neved jó na elıször ugye a tizedik oldalon vagyunk
165 S : (xxxx xxxx)
166 T : ja sorry (3.0) jaj gyerekeim (2.0) tessék na jó tizedik oldalon vagyunk ezen az
oldalon elıször (3.0) egy nagyon könnyő feladattal fogjuk kezdeni hogy ezt
gyakoroljuk még azt ezt a ezt a nyelv új nyelvtani szerkezetet amirıl mi
tanulunk semmi mást nem kell csinálnod csak jól meg kell nézned a ı képet és
elolvasni a mondatokat természetesen nemcsak elolvasod hanem lefordítod és
bekarikázod hogy melyik a ö jel illik rá az igaz vagy a hamis jel jó? csak
karikázd be jó? csak ennyi (4.0) egy kérdésem van mi az a scateboard?
167 S : mi?
168 T : egyetlen új szó van benne a talán scateboard
169 S : gördeszka
170 T : gördeszka gördeszka ezt majd írjuk a írjuk a szótárba de szerintem ezt a legtöbb
gyerek ismeri (10.0)
171 S : scate?
172 T : igen e ott van itt is el tudod i harmadik harmadik mondatban van scateboard
(2.0)
173 S : ez a táska Franciska néni?
174 S : az ott alul a gördeszka mellett
175 S : igen akkor az az?
176 T : hát ı igen az a táska (2.0)
177 S : mi a between? ((incorrect pronunciation))
178 S : mi az a floor?
179 T : a floor a padló azt tanultuk a between az pedig a között azt is tanultuk amikor a
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de? hogy van hogy van az hogy valamiben? milyen ı elöljárószót használunk?
valamiben
180 S : on
181 Ss : in
182 S : in
183 T : valamin?
184 S : on
185 S : on
186 S : in
187 T : ugye? hogyha ez egy négyzet mondjuk akkor benne van az on nem négyzet
hanem mondjuk ez egy doboz ugye? a labda benne van az on hova rajzoljam a
labdát?
188 S : á
189 S : rá
190 S : dobozra
191 S : rá
192 T : Jó ı (2.0) between (3.0) ? két doboz között ugye? mindig a kislabdát kell nézni
más nincsen ugye ilyen probléma?
193 S : között akkor a between?
194 T : igen között persze (2.0) mi veszett el? (2.0)
195 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
196 T : lehoztad? (3.0) strange
197 S : a between az mit jelent?
198 S : között
199 T : között nézzél rá a táblára jó? (2.0)
200 S : ı alatta?
201 T : itt nincs de egyébként van ezt majd le lehet a szótárba under
202 S : ja tényleg underground
203 T : ja tényleg igen (2.0) alatt (2.0) na azt hiszem hogy kész? Have have you finished?
204 S : még nem én még nem
205 T : your task? Your exercise? (2.0)
206 S : mi az a no? ((maybe s/he wanted to ask on?))
207 T : nem
208 S : nem (4.0)
209 T : between (2.0) mondd csak in egy pillanatra nézz ide ((teacher helping by showing
on the board the directions)) in
210 Ss : in
211 T : on
212 Ss : on
213 T : between
214 Ss : between
215 T : between under
216 Ss : under
217 S : ja
218 S : ja tényleg (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
219 T : hát a játékokból a számítógépes játékokból ismeritek ezeket mondjad Zoli
220 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)? ((student probably asking if the underground is under))
221 T : hát a földalatti igen metró igen (2.0) na igen (3.0) na? (xxxx) e egy megálla ezek
megállapítások és nézz rá a képre hogy igaz igazak-e ezek vagy nem nem
mondom meg gondolkodj (3.0) vonat vonat vonat olyan sokszor leírtuk
222 S : train
223 T : nem baj leírom mégegyszer train vonat (12.0) Mátyáska (16.0) mit jelent a
skateboard?
224 S : mit jelent a skateboard?
225 T : skateboard ı itt van gördeszka írhattam volna vonatot is ide mindegy
226 S : floor
227 S : floor az mi?
228 S : az a padló
229 T : a floor az a padló (2.0) amin járunk (7.0)
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231 S : vonat
232 T : vonat
233 S : a vonat az nem shelf?
234 T : az a polc in a dark dark wood emlékeztek rá? abba tanultuk a shelf-et (11.0) nem
azt az oldalt kell csinálni kész vagy? (6.0) na ennyi idı volt rá gyerekek
235 S : még ne még ne még ne
236 S : shelf az micsoda?
237 T : polc polc
238 S : Franciska néni ez akkor ez a vonatos?
239 T : igen
240 S : ez és akkor (2.0) akkor ez igaz
241 T : egy egy ı kis mozdony inkább ugye egy kis vonat itt az elefántnál az a vonat (4.0)
Dávid? sikerül valami?
242 S : mi az a picture?
243 T : picture az a kép van egy kép a a buszban
244 S : kép
245 T : kép picture kép kép kép azt tanultuk azt a szót
246 S : van egy kép meg van egy busz?
247 T : there is no ugye ez tagadja nincs
248 S : de nem a képet akkor a (3.0)
249 T : gondolkodjál (8.0) nem az egészet hát minek na jó gyerekek picit picit ı
gyorsabban kellene kezdjük el ellenırizni jó nem tudtátok befejezni akkor (2.0)
akkor most a a végét azt majd közösen jó? na tessék Józsi az elsı mondatot
megkérem hogy olvassa el read the first sentence please loudly
250 S : is a telephone on the table
251 T : jó mit jelent ez a mondat? hogy kezdıdik? there is akkor úgy kezdem magyarra
fordítani hogy
252 S : an telefon a
253 T : nem kérdezi megállapítja mondja
254 T&S : van
255 T : egy
256 S : telefon aa zasztalon
257 T : ez igaz?
258 S igen
259 T : persze mutassuk meg ugye? here it is akkor bekarikáztuk a mit? a pipát jó
következıt ı
260 S : én (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
261 T : na mondjad Norbikat here are
262 S : there are not pencils in the bag
263 T : ugye benne van a szó a mondatban a not tehát ki az aki
264 S : nincs
265 T : nincs (2.0) m mert ho mert hogy szól a mondat?
266 S : nem
267 S : nincs
268 S : nincsenek ceruzák a
269 T : a táskában tényleg nincsenek
270 S : nincsenek
271 T : akkor ez igaz hogy nincsenek ugye? az hogy nincsenek az az igaz az helyes
megállapítás jó következıt ı Balázs
272 S : there is a skateboard on the floor ((skateboard pronounced incorrectly)) az jó
273 T : az jó mert a mondat úgy szól hogy
274 S : nincsen
275 T : de van itt nincs ott a not
276 S : van egy gördeszka a padlón
277 T : és ez igaz?
278 S : igen
279 T : igaz bekarikáztuk következıt Gabi
280 S : there is a train between the elephant
281 T : and the car igen
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283 T : és ez igaz?
284 S : igen
285 T : és ez igaz bizony ám pipa Olivér jaj de örülök hogy jelentkezik
286 S : mi az umbrella?
287 S : there are
288 T : esernyı
289 S : esernyı
290 S : newspapers on
291 S : the bed
292 S : the
293 T : cs cs cs cs cs
294 S : shelf
295 T : there are newspapers on the shelf mit jelent ez a mondat?
296 S : van a újság papír
297 T : vannak újságok a polc polcon ez igaz ott lóg le jó ı Zoli?
298 S : there is there is? pi^
299 T : picture
300 S : picture in the bus ((bus pronounced in the Hugarian way))
301 T : in the bus
302 S : ı ez nem igaz mer ı van egy
303 S : kép a a buszban
304 T : van egy kép a^
305 S : buszban
306 T : buszban nem lát nem látunk ilyet ugye? (2.0) akkor ez akkor ez hamis így van jó
következıt Gabi
307 S : there is an umbrella in the bag
308 T : igen
309 S : van egy esernyı a táskában
310 T : van egy esernyı a táskában ez igaz it is true így van jó Vivi
311 S : there is not a newspaper on the shelf va ö nincs nincs ö újság a polcon
312 T : nincs újság a polcon
313 S : ez igaz
314 T : ez nem igaz mert hogy van újság ez nem igaz mert hogy van újság ez a
megállapítás hogy nincs újság de tudjuk hogy ez nem igaz jó ez az mert hogy van
ugye? jó ı (2.0) Vivi figyeljen
315 S : there are not books in the bag ? ö ni nincs
316 T&S : nincsenek
317 S : könyvek az asztalon
318 T : a táskában
319 S : táskában ı
320 T : igen
321 S : (xxxx) mert vannak
322 T : mert hogy vannak így van és az utolsót Olivér jaj de örülök hogy
323 S : there is a picture ((wrong pronunciation))
324 T : picture
325 S : picture between the camera and newspaper
326 T : and a newspaper hogy szól a mondat?
327 S : van a kamera
328 T : van egy micsoda?
329 S : van egy kamera
330 T : van egy kép van egy kép a nézd meg a between mit jelent van egy kép a (3.0)
331 S : kamera
332 T : fényképezıgép és a az újságok között ez igaz?
333 S : igen
334 T : ez igaz jó na kérem szépen ı azt mondtuk ugye hogy a there is az azt jelenti hogy
335 Ss : van
336 T : hogy van ugye ı ı a there are
337 Ss : vannak
338 T : az azt jelenti hogy
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340 T : Vannak ö emlékszel rá a szövegbıl hogy hogy mondtuk azt hogy nincsenek
nagyon egyszerıen kell igen
341 S : there are not
342 T : hogy nincs there is not így van (2.0) there is not nincs bocsánat a kkor elıbb a
egyes számban akartam illetve azt úgy is mondják ha összevonom hogy there
isn’t there isn’t (4.0) ((teacher writing contracted form on the board)) there isn’t ezt
most itt ı elszúrtam mer nem fog kiférni mindegy neked valahogy kifér az azt
jelenti hogy nincs
343 S : azt jelenti hogy there is
344 T : azt jelenti hogy nincs jó ı ugyanez többes számban szintén csak utána kell tenni
345 S : there are no
346 T : there are
347 S : there are not
348 T : there are not persze nincsenek mit gondolsz hogy vonom össze? hogy lesz az? ki
az az okos aki rájön?
349 S : there are
350 T : there aren’t (4.0) na nem annyira rossz hogy ez a tábla így ket szét van vágva nem
tok írni rá (2.0) there aren’t (3.0) és az a nincsenek jó na nézz egy kicsit ide nézz
egy kicsit ide a táblára (2.0) mindenkinek a szemét látom mégegyszer mit jelent
az hogy there is?
351 Ss : van van
352 T : hogyan tagadom ezt? utána teszem csak a not olvassa el a Zoli aztán there is
353 S : there is
354 T&S : not
355 T : vagy ha összevont alakban röviden mondom there isn’t ennek a magyar jelentése
a van-nak az ellenkezıje
356 Ss : nincs
357 T : nincs tehát ez a not szócska az ellenkezıjévé tette ugye ı a mondatot ugyanez
többes számban a there are-ból mi lesz hogy ha tagadom?
358 S : there are
359 Ss : there are not
360 T : there are-ból there are not vagy there aren’t röviden és ez a nincsenek jó ı nagyon
szorít minket az idı (2.0) de ezt leírjuk a füzetbe gyorsan nyisd ki a füzetet
fölírod hány óra hányadik óra volt múltkor?
361 S : nem írtuk
362 T : akkor csak lesson és címnek fölírod (8.0) ((teacher writing title on the board))
363 S : Franciska néni várjon egy picit
364 T : csak ezt másoljátok le ezt letörlöm mer ez már itt zavar a füzetbe igen (2.0) ezt a
füzetbe
365 S : Franciska néni adjak lapot?
366 T : nem ja persze (2.0)
367 S : hetvenötödik óra
368 T : hetvenöt? köszönöm lesson seventy-five csak ezt írd le és ezeket a magyar
szavakat húzzuk csak alá van (4.0) ((teacher writing on board)) nincs vannak és
mostmár itt végigírom mer letöröltem a másik felét de itt folytatódik jó there
aren’t nincsenek milyen mondatok azok amiben ı a nincs és a nincsenek szó
szavak szerepelnek? nem állító hanem
369 S : tagadó
370 T : tagadó mondatok így van tagadó mo ma megtanultuk a there is there are
szerkezet
371 S : tagadás
372 T : tagadó alakját így van nincs nincsenek jó és akkor ehhez ka igen (11.0) mondtam
ugye hogy a füzetbe (3.0) és aki ezt lemásolta az máris gondolkodik az osztállyal
kapcsolattal a teremmel kapcsolatban hogy mi az ami itt nincs végtelen sok
dolog nincs az osztályban ugye?
373 S : autó
374 T : azt azt föl lehet sorolni mi van de hogy mi nincs az (xxxx) az (xxxx) na ki az
akinek van ötlete hogy mi nincs?
375 S : autó
376 T : igen autó na ezt próbáld meg angolul mondani nincs autó az osztályteremben

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377 S : there is not

378 T : there is not vagy there isn’t ugye úgy rövidebb
379 S : there isn’t car a car
380 T : a car
381 S : ı the classroom
382 T : in the classroom jó Olivér lehet többes számban is mondani bármit
383 S : nincsen
384 T : mondd mondd angolul mindjárt és akkor mi megpróbáljuk
385 S : nem tudom
386 T : angolul angolul
387 S : there are not
388 S : there is not
389 T : there are not cs cs cs cs cs cs cs cs cs
390 S : cars
391 T : there are not cars in the classroom vagy ha ezt összevontan mondod
392 S : there is not
393 T : there
394 S : there there aren’t
395 T : ezt hadd várjuk meg már jó? there aren’t cars in the classroom jó egyéb ötlet? (2.0)
396 S : nincs itt a felszerelésem
397 T : ezt hagyjuk equipment a felszerelés de ez egy nehéz szó mondjunk olyan szavakat
ami
398 S : szemüveg
399 S : á én
400 T : szemüveg például de az van mert az nekem
401 S : én hadd mondjam
402 T : na mondjad Flóra
403 S : there aren’t? balloons
404 T : there aren’t balloons in the classroom az jó mondjad Erik?
405 S : there is not? (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
406 T : ez meg hülyeség ilyenrıl nem beszélünk yes
407 S : there are?
408 T : there are not (6.0) elephants in the classroom jó ugye hogyha egyes számban van the
ı there is akkor ugyanúgy tagadóban is a fınév milyen alakban van? Kezd kezd a
fegyelem egy kicsit pedig majdnem megdícsértelek már benneteket óra végére
tartogattam csak most szólok hogy milyen alakban van a fınév hogy ha there is
there isn’t van a mondatban?
409 S : van
410 T : egyes szám
411 S : egyes szám
412 T : és a there are-nál többes szám jó na kérem szépen sajnos ı mennünk kell tovább
a másik felét ı fogod otthon megcsinálni jelöld be a hatos a hatos hetes feladatot
igen és most összehajtod a papírt tehát megjelölöd hogy ez a lecke összehajtod
beteszed a füzetbe és most jön az hogy kinyitod a könyvedet és miután ilyen jók
vagytok miután ilyen jók vagytok a mai napon
413 S : játszunk?
414 T : hát nem játszunk hanem tanulunk egy dalt méghozzá a negyvenheted ez is játék
negyvenhetedik oldalon nagyon aranyos egy varázslóról látod a képeket jó? És a
feladat az hogy ki kell találni nem kitalálni hanem lef lefordítjuk a dalt és
megtudjuk hogy mi van enek a varázslónak a kalapjában na figyelem (2.0)
figyelj
415 C : there’s a pink and yellow rabbit in my uncle’s hat
416 T : Gábor
417 C : there’s a fat and happy elephant in there too there’s a brown and orange monkey in
my uncle’s hat
418 T : na ugye milyen jó kis dal?
419 C : and my uncle’s hat is blue blue blue and my uncle’s hat is blue there are nine white
lions in my uncle’s hat
420 T : majd lehet hogy még kell
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and my uncles hat is blue blue blue and my uncles hat is blue
422 T : na gyorsan mondjuk
423 Ss : hú hú
424 T : ((claps once)) ha ránézel a két versszakra rögtön szembetőnik mi a különb
különbség a két versszak között az egy
425 S : there is meg there are
426 T : így van there is az elsı versszak there az egyes szám többes szám gyorsan
mondjuk soronként csak magyarul az elsı versszak mi van a kalapban? Vivi van
egy cs cs cs cs cs
427 S : rózsaszín és sárga nyuszi
428 T : a nagybátyám kalapjában következı sort gyorsan gyorsan gyorsan (2.0) Flóra
429 S : van egy ı
430 S : dagadt
431 T : dagadt egy duci
432 S : boldog
433 S : boldog
434 T&S : boldog elefánt
435 T : is ott következı versszak Vivi cs cs cs cs cs cs Erik
436 S : van egy ba van egy barna és narancssárga narancssárga narancs
437 T : a narancssárga
438 S : majom
439 S : majom
440 S : narancssárga ı majom
441 T : a nagybátyám kalapjában ugye az uncle a családtagoknál tanultuk hogy az
nagybácsi következı sort Józsi
442 S : there is
443 T : és milyen ez a kalap?
444 S : kék
445 T : és a nagybátyám kalapja (2.0) kék jó na nézzük a másik versszakot aztán még el
is akarjuk énekelni mondjad
446 S : van van kilenc fehér oroszlán
447 T : igen most
448 S : nagybátyám kalapjában
449 T : így van
450 S : van
451 T : gyorsan Vivi
452 S : vannak ?
453 T : van a magyar a magyartalan ha többes szám a magyar egyes számba mondja
ugye? van
454 S : hét zöld kígyó ı
455 T : is ott itt megállunk egy picit nıtt az alapzaj picit vegyél vissza jó? következı
versszak Takács Balázs miért csinálod ezt fiam? következı versszak
456 S : there are nine
457 T : igen ha figyeltél volna csak magyarul kérdeztem van^
458 S : van van barna
459 S : zsiráf
460 T : hány darab?
461 Ss : hat
462 T : hát milyen ez a zsiráf? magas zsiráf igen és a refrén ugyanaz jó sajnos az éneklés
re nem maradt idınk házifeladatot tudod ezt odahaza olvasd el mégegyszer ez a
szóbeli jövı órán énekeljük (2.0) jövı órán megbeszéljük (2.0) a végére
lazítottatok ott mehetsz (3.0) sziasztok (6.0)
463 S : és Franciska néni lehet javítani a dolgozatokat?
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1 T : jó mindenki felírta a nevét a papírra (4.0) akkor létigét és a birtokos esetet

rövidítve ha könnyebb úgy neked akkor elıször leírod hogy I am és utána
rövidíted hogy I’m így
2 S : ja
3 T : megcsinálod és a have-vel is I have de most azt nem neked mer azt is kell hogy
tudd rövidíteni úgyhogy írjál fel légyszíves két oszlopot mondom ha úgy könnyebb
akkor elıször írhatod hosszan és utána rövidíted aposztroffal
4 S : úgy kell írni hogy I have?
5 T : Krisztike azért figyelsz ugye? ((remark to the researcher to show how stupid the
students are and what stupid questions they ask!!!)) (2.0) kérdésekre hogy
6 R : (xxxx xxxx) hát úgyis az lesz (2.0)
7 T : aposztrof tudod mi az az aposztrof?
8 S : úgy kell írni hogy I have got?
9 T : akkor tehát mégegysz igen nagyon jó lesz tehát akkor mégegyszer jó egy példát
felírok a táblára hogy érthetı legyen ha lenne kréta tehát amit kérek ugye mit
létige ebbıl a rövidítés hogy lesz? ezt végig ragozod I am you are he she it is satöbbi
majd
10 S : lerövidítjük?
11 T : (6.0) ((teacher writes on board from sec 2 to 5)) jó? érthetı?a példa alapján? na
akkor kérem szépen hogy akkor írjátok le ha kész vagytok akkor mondok még
pár szót
12 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx?)
13 T : igen írjad (8.0) Robika te még lapot se téptél ki fiam? (2.0) Balázskám nem
fordulsz hátra Balázs nem érted mit kell csinálni?
14 S : nem
15 T : úgy nagyjából egészébıl rémlik? (6.0) s azért ugye azt el kell mondani hogy ezt
már másfél hete megbeszéltük hogy lesz ilyen dolgozat tehát nem egy hú de
váratlanul (24.0) Lacikám ebbıl így semmi sem lesz hogyha a ceruzádat össze-
vissza ra rágcsikálod (3.0) Balázs (29.0) ((teacher starts walking from sec 7)) nem
csak ráültem (6.0) Balázs már kész vagy? nem te a másik Balázs Nagy (20.0)
mondjad
16 S : ebbıl kell szót csinálni?
17 T : nem kell belıle szót csinálni ahogy felírtam a táblára leírod elıször a létigéket
például utána rövidítve tehát én arra vagyok kíváncsi hogy hogy kell leírni
rövidítve mert mikor ugye vettük az olvasmányt akkor nem ismertétek föl igaz
hogy tanultuk de nem ismeritek fel szövegben ezért szeretném hogyha abszolút
megle mm benne lenne mostmár a fejetekben rutinszerően hogy azok a
rövidítések vajon mit jelentenek itt az a gond hogy (xxx xxx xxxx) nem értik tehát
hiába írok példát hogy ha nem értik ebbıl csináljak szót? (10.0) (xxxx) kész vagy?
jó és akkor írnék tíz szót a táblára és azt is kérem szépen (7.0) nézzünk az
öltözködésbıl (3.0) egy párat meg nézzünk meg nézzünk a helyhatározókból jó
amiket vettünk alatta fölötte satöbbi ami volt jó? na akkor az öltözködésbıl azt
mondja hogy ide írom (11.0) ((writes on board)) figyelsz a többes számra ugye mert
vannak olyan ruhadarabok amelyeket többes számba kell tenni tanultuk figyelsz
rá igen
18 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
19 T : ja nem baj (17.0) nem beszél jó és akkor helyhatározókból azt mondja kettı négy
hat akkor még négy (22.0) ((writes on board)) jó (22.0) ((writing the rest on board))
jó (12.0) ((teacher walking until sec 10)) adjak egy könyvet hogy hol tartunk?
((teacher asking the researcher))
20 R : mhm
21 T : ((talking to the researcher)) á (13.0) ((teacher opens book)) azért íratok ezekbıl mert
ezt vettük és vettük még a testrészeket is tehát ezen (xxxx) tartunk (4.0) a
rövidítésekbıl meg azért mert hiába vettük egyszerően nem ismerik fel szövegben
tehát hogyha normál szöveg van akkor nem tudják megkülönböztetni a
rövidítéseket gyakorlatilag a munkafüzetben is ugyanaz van ugye színeknél ugye

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itt az hogy ı milyen benne fölötte alatta tehát e ez is azért van számon kérve mert
ezt már vettük
22 R : mhm
23 T : azért van hogy itt tartunk
24 R : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
25 T : á nem hát ezér annyira nem vagyunk lassúak csak inkább ismételni kell (xxxx
xxxx xxxx) vissza kell térni tehát dolgozatot én úgy íratok hogy az egész éveleji
anyagoktól tehát minden egyes szódolgozat az arról szól Robika ha azt lenyeled
akkor a Heim Pálba kell hogy vigyelek vedd ki azt a ceruzádból és tedd el nem
volt a szájában ((boy is trying to eat a needle!!!)) úgyhogy ı folyamatosan ismételni
kell velük mert nem megy nem lehet velük mit kezdeni
26 R : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
27 T : Krisztina tehát itt még a tehát (xxxx xxxx) tehát nem tehetem meg azt hogy csak
olyanokat adok hogy te önmagához képest azt tudja jól de egyébként más szinten
28 R : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
29 T : igen igen igen a németes igen hát az meg még úgyhogy én nem is panaszkodom
(xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx) nem tehetnek róla de ez van (2.0) jó akkor
még három percet adok jó többet nem gyerekek mert tényleg ez nagyon nagyon
egyszerő tanultuk többször átrágtuk magunkat nem lehet az egész órát azzal
tölteni hogy most ezzel jó? szavakat is többször megbeszéltük (8.0) ((teacher
walking)) neveteket ne felejtsétek el ráírni (27.0) jó aki kész az nyugodtan kiteheti
ide az asztalra (30.0) jó kérem szépen mostmár mindenkitıl
30 S : még ne (xxxx)
31 T : Hajnika nagyon nagyon karcsú az a perc jó még egy perc de az nagyon karcsú
kérem szépen szerintem egy perc alatt mostmár úgy sem váltod meg a világot
srácok (3.0) na mindenkitıl kérem Hajnika nem
32 S : nem tudtam (xxxx)
33 T : nem csodálkozom (6.0) jó Szilvi Ákos (4.0) jó kérem szépen ki kinek van Pisti
kérem a dolgozatodat
34 S : Ákos (2.0)
35 T : Ákos? mindenki beadta? jó az elsıt nem fogom megbeszélni mert igazából azt a
táblára kellene írni nézzük a szavakat jó? zokni
36 S : socks
37 T : így van farmer?
38 Ss : jeans
39 T : jeans nadrág?
40 Ss : trou trousers
41 T : és ezt ugye többes számba raktad szoknya?
42 Ss : skirt
43 T : skirt felsı?
44 S : shirt
45 T : így van shirt t-shirt kabát?
46 S : coat
47 S : coat
48 T : így van fölött
49 S : above
50 S : above
51 T : így van alatt
52 S : under
53 T : under mellett?
54 S : next
55 T : ban-ben?
56 S : on
57 S : on
58 T : in az on az a valamin rajta jó rendben van akkor ı negyvenkettedik oldalon ugye
megnéztük szerintem én jól emlékszem az olvasmányt de mondjátok hogy ha nem
mert itt alá is vannak húzogatva szavak és akkor hoztam a kazettát
meghallgatjuk a kazettán megbeszéljük újra (10.0)
59 S : (xxxx xxxx) én nem voltam
60 T : nem baj újra meg fogjuk beszélni azért mondom hogy semmi gond vele igen igen

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61 S : hol van ez?

62 T : ı máris mondom negyvenkettedik oldal s remélem hogy oda van beállítva a
kazetta majd mindjárt megnézzük (19.0) ez klassz mer hogy most akkor a aha
63 C : I think
64 T : moment
65 C : unit 15 the (xxxx) section forty-five (9.0)
66 T : jó addig nézegesd egy kicsit amíg megkeresem pontosan hogy merre van lehet
átolvasgatni tessék Sanyi
67 S : nekem nincs nem találom a
68 T : nincsen könyved? nem nem a tiedet vettem el?
69 S : lehet
70 T : gyere nézd meg hogy nem az van-e az asztalomon (8.0) gyerekek van egy nagy
kupac ı füzet ott az asztal alatt nem tom kié jó most ne kezd el szedni Melinda hol
van különben?
71 S : hazament
72 T : mert
73 S : jobban mondva jöttek érte (6.0)
74 T : jó akkor addig azt szeretném kérdezni hogy amikor volt a házifeladatok ez a
papagáj színezés amit a munkafüzetben néztünk
75 S : kész
76 T : jó akkor Robika kezdd el légyszíves nekem felolvasni hogy milyen színre színezted
a papagájnak az egyes részeit (6.0)
77 S : hányadik oldal?
78 T : máris mondom munkafüzetben (3.0)
79 S : my parrot has got a yellow
80 T : igen negyvenkettedik oldal mondjad my parrot has got blue head ez az elsı mondat
81 S : blue head ((incorrect pronunciation))
82 T : blue head (3.0)
83 T : (xxxx)
84 S : szia
85 T : ık az angolosok
86 S : (xxxx xxxx)
87 T : (xxxx) az udvarra?
88 T : semmi gond igen mondjad Robika figyeljetek légyszíves rá
89 S : yellow nose
90 S : sárgára színezte be az orrát
91 T : igen és mit jelent ez a mondat? fordítsd le légyszíves (2.0)
92 S : a csıre?
93 T : várjál my parrot has got
94 S : a papagájnak
95 T : az én
96 S : az én papagájomnak
97 T : így van
98 S : sárga a csıre
99 T : így van ugye ez az orr itt esetben a csırét jelenti jó Csilla második mondat
100 S : he has got a yellow shoulder
101 T : mit jelent a mondat?
102 S : ı az én papagá tehát a papagájnak
103 T : neki igen mert he has got így van
104 S : sárga a válla
105 T : így van ı Balázs Horn Balázs következı
106 S : he’s got a yellow shoulder
107 T : na mégegyszer olvassuk el az már volt az a mondat tovább
108 S : he’s got leg
109 T : de milyen leg? egy színt kellett írni és milyen színőre színezted a lábát a
papagájnak?
110 S : mert én az én annak nem csináltam színt
111 T : akkor mit mondasz ha nincs kiszínezve mondjuk azt hogy fehér he’s got white legs
akkor hogy fordítod?
112 S : he’s got ı ja fehér? (xxxx xxxx xxxx)

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113 T : de most mondtam cicamica csak fordítsd le a mondatot he’s got white legs
114 S : he’s got
115 T : white legs
116 S : white legs
117 T : akkor legyen gray csak fordítsd le
118 S : he’s got ı gray legs
119 T : így van mit jelent?
120 S : a papagáj az én
121 T : nincsen ott semmi sem az hogy az enyém sem az hogy a papagájnak
122 S : a papagáj
123 S : a papagáj
124 T : nem nincs ott cica hogy a papagájnak mer a papagáj az a par^
125 S : a lába
126 T : az ı lába^
127 S : az ı lába
128 T : szürke Hajni utolsó
129 S : (xxxx xxxx) she’s got
130 T : he has got nem she hanem he has got
131 S : red
132 T : toes mit jelent ez a mondat?
133 S : a papagájnak
134 T : de nincs ott hogy a papagájnak gyerekek ha nincs benne a mondatban hogy
parrot akkor nem tudod mi tudjuk hogy a papagájról van szó de egyébként nincs
benne a mondatban tehát neki (4.0) mondjad Hajnika
135 T : ı neki
136 T : igen
137 S : piros
138 T : a^
139 S : lábfeje
140 T : így van jó és akkor most nézzük meg a könyvet (12.0) ki tudja nekem addig
összefoglalni mirıl szólt ez a rész? (3.0) Virág össze tudod foglalni hogy az elızı
rész amit vettünk mirıl szól?
141 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx?)
142 T : igen igen (6.0) ki az aki össze tudná nekem foglalni hogy ez mirıl szól? (2.0)
gyerekek negyvenkettedik oldalon tartunk a könyvben mondjad Pisti mirıl szólt
143 S : arról szólt hogy a (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
144 T : így van
145 S : ez a ez a (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
146 T : igen
147 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
148 T : igen
149 S : és (xxxx) megtalálták
150 T : így van így van itt tartunk helyes (2.0) jó (10.0) hányadik oldal?
151 S : hat negyvenhat
152 S : negyvenhatodik oldal
153 T : jó azt még azért nem nézem veletek akkor csak a múltkorit (19.0) reméljük
mostmár meglesz nemsokára (14.0) aha ez a lufi megvan végre (5.0)
154 C : unit eleven the (xxxx) section thirty-four
155 T : figyelj mondom hogy ki az aki ismételni fogja jó? tedd le a kezed Hajnika
156 C : (xxxx) in the balloon (4.0)
157 T figyelj
158 C : is Captin Shadow your friend boy?
159 T : Virág
160 S : is Captain shadow your friend boy?
161 T : mhm mit jelent? igen
162 S : Shadow kapitány a barátod (xxxx xxxx?)
163 T : így van
164 C : Captain Shadow? who is Captain Shadow?
165 T : Pisti
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167 T : mit jelent?

168 S : tehát öm Shadow kapitány?
169 T : így van
170 S : Ki az a Shadow kapitány?
171 T : Ki az a Shadow kapitány? figyelj
172 C : hahaa you’ve got her telephone number here
173 T : Ákos
174 S : hahaa you you’ve ((incorrect pronunciation)) ))got a telephone number here
175 T : biztos hogy jól olvastad? mégegyszer próbáld meg
176 S : you’ve got ((incorrect pronunciation))
177 T : you’ve
178 S : you you
179 T : you’ve got
180 S : you’ve got her
181 T : her
182 S : her te telephone number here
183 T : here aha azért mondom hogy figyelj a kiejtésre mer az segít neked mit jelent
Ákos?
184 S : ı tudod a telefonszámát?
185 T : nem you have got her telephone number ki tudja Virág?
186 S : ı neked van meg
187 T : megvan
188 S : megvan a telefon száma
189 T : megvan az ı telefon száma
190 C : give me the balloon now Lister
191 T : Judit
192 S : give me the balloon now Mister
193 T : mit jelent?
194 S : játszani
195 T : nem nem volt benne játszani ige mondjad
196 S : add ide a lufit Lister
197 T : így van add nekem ide a lufikát Lister
198 C : ahm ok boss here you are
199 T : aha Balázs mert látom hogy nem figyel azt se tudja hol tartunk Szilvi
200 S : én tudom hogy hol tartunk
201 T : nem rád mondtam a másik Balázsra ok boss
202 S : ok boss
203 T : here mm na ez mit jelent nagyjából-egészébıl? (3.0) css ki segít neki? Pisti?
204 S : de ott de fınök de fınök ó fınök itt van
205 T : here itt van így van itt van Szilvike írjad jó ami most nem ı amit nem tudsz mert
múlt órán vettük de majd megnézzük a szavakat
206 C : listen can you hear an aeroplane?
207 T : Sanyi
208 S : listen can you hear an aeroplane?
209 T : na mit jelent? can you hear an aeroplane?
210 S : hallod te hallod a
211 T : hallasz egy
212 S : hallasz egy repülıgépet?
213 T : így van és mit válaszol? ott van olvasd fel
214 S : I don’t know ((k is pronounced in know))
215 T : nem ejtjük a kát
216 S : know perhaps it
217 T : de nem azt Zolikám hanem amit elmond
218 S : (xxxx xxxx) who is who is it boss tudja a (xxxx)
219 T : hát ı Csilla
220 S : tudja a fınök ö (xxxx)
221 C : who is the boss?
222 T : Nagy Balázs (4.0) ezt az egy mondatot amit most itt a magnó mondott ott van a
könyvben is
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224 T : nem Ákos?

225 S : ki ez ki ki ez fınök?
226 T : igen csak angolul is olvasd fel who is
227 S : who is
228 T : It
229 S : who is it
230 T : így van ki ez ki ez fınök aha figyelj de figyeljed a magnót és kövesd a szemeddel
figyelj
231 C : I don’t know
232 T : Hajni (3.0)
233 S : I don’t
234 T : know I don’t know mit jelent I don’t know
235 S : (xxxx)
236 T : nem I don’t know Pisti?
237 S : nem tudom
238 T : nem tudom
239 C : perhaps it’s Captain Shadow
240 T : aha Judit
241 S : talán
242 T : igen
243 S : talán Shadow kapitány
244 T : talán így van Shadow kapitány
245 C : has she got an aeroplane boy?
246 T : Laci
247 S : has she got an aeroplane ((incorrect pronunciation)) boy? (2.0) ?
248 T : na mit jelent? van-e
249 S : van-e
250 T : neki mije van?
251 S : va van neki egy re repülıgépe?
252 T : így van van neki repülıgépe?
253 C : yes she has
254 T : ha ez egy nagyon kis rövidke mondat Szandra
255 S : yes she has
256 T : yes she has ez a válasz tehát? igen van neki
257 C : (xxxx) Lister
258 T : aha Reni
259 S : (xxxx) Lister
260 T : mit jelent?
261 S : (xxxx xxxx)
262 T : aha következı is a tied mert rövid volt
263 C : let’s look
264 S : let’s look
265 T : aha vagyis? nézzük nézzük meg nézzük meg let’s look ahhoz képest hogy ezt már
egyszer vettük és le is fordítottuk ahhoz képest azért elég gyengécskén figyelj
megy tovább
266 S : Marika néni itt (xxxx) a (xxxx) (6.0)
267 T : figyelj Attila tartsátok tiszteletben azt hogy itt óra folyik kisfiam és ezt mondd
meg a többieknek is tudom de majd átadja az üzenetemet a többieknek is
köszönöm ilyenek na figyelj megyünk tovább ((students from the corridor interrupt
the lesson))
268 C : yes I can see Mister X’s boat
269 T : mhm Hajni
270 S : yes I can see Mister X’s
271 T : x’s boat
272 S : igen én látom miszter X hajó^
273 T : hajó^
274 S : ^ját
275 T : ^ját így van
276 C : and (xxxx) can you see the balloons?
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278 S : ı and (xxxx) can you see the balloons?

279 T : mit jelent?
280 S : é látod a lufit?
281 T : aha látod a lufikat? ugye balloons ((emphasis on s for plural)) több lufit
282 C : this is the balloon from your birthday party
283 T : Pisti
284 S : this is the balloon (xxxx) your birthday party
285 T : from your birthday party mit jelent?
286 S : ez az a lufi a a szülinap szülinapi buliról
287 T : szülinapi partidról így van na és akkor nézzük az utolsót
288 C : well done Bean now we can find Bean and Mister X
289 T : Csilla
290 S : well well ((the second is incorrect pronunciation)) done
291 T : well done Bean
292 S : well done Bean now we can
293 T : várjál ezt elıbb fordítsd le mit jelent?
294 S : jól csináltad
295 T : jól csináltad ügyes voltál igen
296 S : now we can find Bean and the (xxxx)
297 T : igen (3.0) na mit jelent? (4.0) múlt órán tanultuk mi az a find?
298 S : keres
299 S : talál
300 T : keres talál akkor now we can find Miste Mister X and Been and Mister X mit
jelenthet? (4.0) naa tehát mostmár meg tudjuk (3.0) találni
301 S : Mister X-et és Bean-t
302 T : így van így van ez olyan nehéz volt? hát vettük srácok hm? nagyon nehéz? pedig
még a Pisti össze is foglalta óra ele óra elején hogy mirıl szól igaz Pisti? Ez az
olvasmány jó nézzünk egy kis gyakorlást akkor maradunk a munkafüzetben a
negyvenkettedik oldalon
303 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx?)
304 T de én a hármast szeretném feladni nem a papagájosat hanem a hármast
305 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
306 T : jó de nagyon soknak úgy látom hogy nincsen úgyhogy egy kis idıt adnék nektek
jó? bal oldalon találtok egy négyzetet és abban szavakat jobb oldalon öt mondatot
amit ki kell egészíteni
307 S : a hármast vagy a négyest?
308 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx?)
309 T : a há így van ez a feladat tehát mindegyik mondatba egyetlen egy szó illik
310 S : a négyes?
311 T : szeretném a hármas feladat negyvenkettedik oldalon a hármas feladat
kiegészítenétek a mondatokat és kérném szépen ezt az öt mondatot kiegészítve
lefordítani a füzetbe jó? önálló munka nem nehéz minden szó ismert nincs benne
új szó egyáltalán mondjad Robika
312 S : és akinek már kész van?
313 T : akinek kész az elıveszi a füzetét és lefordítja
314 S : már lefordítva
315 T : jó akkor mindjár ellenırizzük jó? mert se Zolinak se Szandrának kettı ennek a
padsornak például nin nincs kész az már négy gyerek Virág is most írja úgyhogy
hát remélem hogy jó és le is van fordítva a füzetbe Robika?
316 S : nincs
317 T : de azt mondtam cicamica hogy aki kész van és megvan itt a munkafüzetben az
fordítsa le a füzetbe Hajnika mi a gond? mért nem dolgozol?
318 S : én már megcsináltam
319 T : füzetedben benne van?
320 S : igen
321 T : jó akkor vedd elı a füzetedet (2.0)nincs itt a füzeted akkor most egy papírra
lefordítod jó? tehát azért azt nem szeretném hogy lógatjuk a lábunkat és nem
dolgozunk tessék elıvenni
322 S : mit jelent a colour? ((colour pronounced with Hungarian spelling style))
323 S : colour

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324 T : gyerekek mi az a colour?

325 Ss : szín
326 T : szín (4.0) igen ezt le kell fordítani a füzetbe (2.0) nem (xxxx) (2.0) jó de nem
hangos kiabálásra megy füzetbe lefordítottad?
327 S : nem
328 T : ja tényleg nem baj elıveszel egy papírt és a papírra írod ezért szokta mondani a
Gabi néni hogy egy csomag írólap minden órán illetve behozzátok év elején és
akkor utána lehet (4.0) gyerekek ránéztem az órára úgyhogy most csak azt
kérném hogy egészítsétek ki a mondatokat és akkor a házifeladat lesz otthon
lefordítani jó? tehát akkor azt kérem hogy akkor aki megcsinálta a feladatot az
dıljön hátra és akkor abból látom hogy kész vagytok a munkafüzetben a
feladatokkal és akkor a házifeladat lesz lefordítani rendben?
329 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
330 T : tudom én csináltam a munkalapokat tudok róla
331 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
332 T : majd utána fogok nézni mert begyőjtöttem
333 S : én nem voltam itt
334 S : nekem jó lett?
335 T : gyerekek ezzel foglalkozza
336 S : (xxxx) el lehet pakolni?
337 T : Sanyi meg kéne csinálni a munkafüzetben a feladatot ha ezzel kész vagy akkor
hátradılsz rám nézel szeretném leellenırízni én elpakolásról még nem beszéltem
jó nézzük meg mert mostmár nagyon helyezkedtek jobbra-balra elsı mondatot
olvassa és fordítja a Nagy Balázs újra kinyitja a munkafüzetét mert nem
mondtam hogy becsukja és akkor olvassa és mondja hogy mivel egészítette ki (4.0)
negyvenkettedik oldal hármas feladat (6.0) mondjad Balázs Horn Balázs
elırefordul
338 S : (xxx xxxx xxxx xxxx) (5.0)
339 T : hát nem egészen ki írt mást Hajni
340 S : az elsı mondatot
341 T : elsı mondatról beszélünk
342 S : what ö colour are your
343 T : your eyes what colour are your eyes? Na kkor beszéljük meg hogy mit jelent milyen
344 S : milyen színőek
345 T : ss a Hajni mondja jó? Hajnika
346 S : milyen színő a szemed?
347 T : igen milyen színő szemed van tehát az elsı szó a colour második Ákos
348 S : she’s she’s got long brown hair
349 T : igen a got volt a jó szó fordítsd le
350 S : ö neki neki rövid
351 T : nem rövid
352 S : neki hosszú barna haja van
353 T : így van Reni harmadikat
354 S : what colour is her skirt? ((skirt pronounced incorrectly))
355 T : skirt skirt
356 S : milyen színő a szoknyája?
357 T : így van tehát what volt a megfelelı szó ? Sanyi
358 S : I’ve ((pronounced incorrectly)) got a pair of yellow trousers
359 T : trousers mhm tehát a trousers volt és mit jelent Sanyi? nekem mim van?
360 S : nekem egy pár sárga (3.0)
361 T : yellow az sárga
362 S : nekem sárga
363 T : trousers mi az a trousers?
364 S : testem
365 T : testem? nem nem nem sárga testem van van Robika? mi az a trousers?
366 S : nadrág
367 S : hármas
368 S : nadrág
369 T : mi volt a hármas? what volt a hármas tehát mi az a trousers?
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371 T : nadrág tehát nekem sárga (3.0) nekem sárga

372 Ss : nadrágom van
373 T : nadrágom van így van következı Virág
374 S : Lister Lister’s got a red hat
375 T : igen mit jelent?
376 S : ı Listernek van piros sapkája
377 T : hát szépen magyarul Listernek piros sapkája
378 S : van
379 T : van így van mivel már megbeszéltük itt egyszer hogy mit jelentenek a mondatok
remélem nem lesz gond ezt lefordítani otthon jó rendben van tessék?
380 S : kettı rossz és három jó
381 T : kettı rossz és három jó nem baj azért beszéltük meg hogy ki tudjad javítani
szeretném hogyha akkor ezt megcsinálnátok írjátok fel negyvenkettedik oldal
hármas feladat fordítani a füzetbe és mielıtt megkérdeznétek magyarra kell
fordítani mer el szokott hangzani az a kö kérdés és most mondom azt hogy néma
csendben lehet elpakolni mondjad Hajnika mondjad mit szeretnél?
382 S : (xxxx xxxx)
383 T : jó akkor annak viszont örüljél ha kész van

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1 T : emlékszik-e valaki most nem hoztam a magnót az igaz de emlékszik-e valaki a

dallamára ennek a dalnak? tessék
2 S : head and shoulders knees and toes
3 T : azaz na próbáljuk meg elénekelni nézheted a könyvedet jó gyerekek
negyvenegyedik oldalon kinyitod (2.0) ((students are chatting while opening books))
tankönyv negyvenegyedik oldal Csilla csüccs le most nem érdekes csücsülj le (2.0)
és akkor próbáljuk meg
4 S : hányadik oldal?
5 T : negyvenegyedik oldal mehet mehet de itt volt a könyved az elıbb nem akkor ülj át
Ákos mellé na nézzük csak meg akkor próbáljuk meg elénekelni negyvenkettedik
oldal rajta head and
6 Ss : shoulders knees and toes ((students start singing it slowly with a verty different tune))
7 T : mindegy más dallam de azér mehet jó akkor hagyjuk ezt jó ne énekeljük el arra
kérlek benneteket hogy ceruzával a könyvben húzzátok alá a testrészeket
negyvenegyedik oldal elmondom tizedszer is de felírom a táblára és akkor úgy
könnyebb tankönyv negyvenegyedik oldal és szeretném ha ceruzával a
testrészeket aláhúznátok
8 Ss : (11.0) ((they are working))
9 T : Balázs nem látnám hogy dolgozol fiam nem értem (12.0) nem végig jó (8.0) jó és
akkor azt kérem hogy aa ((thinking)) Csilla álljon ki ide középre (2.0) és akkor azt
mondom hogy knees és a Virág megmutatja a Csillán hogy melyik a knees
10 S : (4.0) ((thinking and showing it))
11 T : így van Pisti head mutasd meg a Csillán hol van a head
12 S : (3.0) ((thinking and showing it))
13 T : így van csüccs le Hajni shoulders
14 S : (6.0) ((thinking and showing it))
15 T : rendben Robika toes
16 S : (5.0) ((thinking and showing it))
17 T : jól van Balázs Nagy Balázs eyes ehhez nem kell a könyv gyere ki és mutasd meg a
Csillán eyes
18 S : (4.0) ((trying to show it))
19 T : hát ez nem az eyes
20 S : (2.0) ((finally showing it))
21 T : igen így van Táncos Ákos gyere nose (2.0) ((talking)) ssss
22 T : helyes új Judit gyere ki mouth
23 S : (4.0)
24 T : jó köszönöm szépen Csilla te úgyis most csendbe kellett hogy maradjál viszont te
légyszíves válaszolj arra a kérdésre hogy (3.0) vannak olyan testrészek amelyek
végén az sz hangot hallod az miért van
25 S : többes szám
26 T : így van többes szám csücsülj le ügyesek voltatok jó gyakorlásképpen még mindig
maradunk a testrészeknél a munkafüzeteteket vegyétek elı és máris mondom az
oldalszámot negyvenharmadik oldalon a négyes feladat de ebbıl is csak az egyik
része mindjárt mondom munkafüzet negyvenharmadik oldal négyes feladat
mégpedig az a része ahol látod a kis téglalapot a robot kezében következı elıször
elismételjük a szavakat és utána mondom hogy mit kell vele csinálni
27 T : hand
28 Ss : hand
29 T : arm
30 Ss : arm
31 T : neck
32 Ss : neck
33 T : happy
34 Ss : happy
35 T : father
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37 T : man
38 Ss : man
39 T : family
40 Ss : family
41 T : party
42 Ss : party
43 T : bank
44 Ss : bank
45 T : are
46 Ss : are
47 T : black
48 Ss : black
49 T : clan
50 Ss : clan
51 T : jó annyit kérek (4.0) hogy azt húzd alá nem lesz ı nehéz mert kettı darab olyan
szavunk van csak így van kettı darab testrészünk van azt keressétek meg (5.0)
összesen kettı nem lesz több Ákos melyik volt az a kettı?
52 S : a hand és az arm
53 T : aha és mi a különbség a hand és az arm között ki tudja megmondani (2.0) mit
jelent az egyik és mit jelent a másik Pisti
54 S : az arm az a kar
55 T : kar mhm
56 S : a hand az a kéz
57 T : kéz így van (2.0) na nézzük tovább a testrészeket negyvennegyedik oldalon van
egy klassz kis keresztrejtvény (3.0) s ezt ki kellene tölteni de most szeretném hogy
ha nem használnátok segítséget jó tehát könyvedet becsukod munkafüzetedet nem
nézed és kútfıbıl akinek esetleg nem megy az gondolkodjon el emlékezzen vissza
a dalra mondtam múltkor szódolgozat elıtt is hogy ha a dalt el tudod énekelni az
biztos hogy segít jó ki kellene tölteni a keresztrejtvényt negyvennegyedik oldalon
jó munkafüzet negyvennégy (2.0) ((writing on the board)) és önállóan nem nézel se
a szomszédodra se a könyvedbe szeretném hogyha önállóan kitöltenéd ugye itt
azért már a helyesírást is gyakorolni kell mert ı ha nem írod le jól akkor
egyszerően nem jön ki a keresztrejtvény
58 S : tanárnéni
59 T : igen
60 S : itt ennek végig ki kell jönnie
61 T : ki kell jönnie látod mostmár segít neked a keresztrejtvény ha maradt egy
négyzeted az mit jelenthet nem mit jelent hogyha a végén marad egy négyzet
62 S : többesszám
63 T : pontosan (2.0) így van (2.0) így van (16.0) mhm Robika légyszives próbáld meg az
üveget kivenni a szádból és a munkafüzetet tölteni cicamica nem lesz jó az ear az
elsı helyre elıször is azt többesszámban általában úgy használjuk de h-bető
semmiképpen sincs a szó végén olyan nincs hogy earh (6.0) ó ez a helyesírás ez a
helyesírás ez nagyon nem hogyha nem nézzük a könyvet vagy nem puskázunk
akkor nagyon nem megy Krisztinél ez a helyesírás . . mondjuk nehéz (5.0) Robika
drága mi a gond nem tudod vagy leírni nem tudod leírni na úgyis mindjárt
leellenırizzük (1.0) mi a baj nálad (2.0) csak húzd át (4.0) húzd hogy itt te
rontottad el sajnálom cicamica most nem tudok mit csinálni most nincs nálam
radír (3.0) mhm Reni kész is van és szerintem jó is (3.0) mhm így van (2.0) picit
még várunk jó míg a többiek befejezitek és akkor utána úgyis leellenırizzük
gyerekek a hetest megkérem hogy vizezze be a szivacsot jó te vagy jól van
köszönöm (8.0) ki vagy Balázs Nagy Balázs drágám van három egyesed és egy
kettesed (3.0) ha szeretnél jobb jegyet márpedig jó lenne ha szeretnél akkor egy
kicsit aktivizálni kellene magadat jó mert ez nagyon nem Mónika meg Melinda
(3.0) hátazér csodálkozom rajta mert (1.0) mert szoktam látni és angolon meg
nem szoktam látni
64 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
65 T : de most hol van? (3.0) ((students are chatting)) ssss (6.0) csak úgy az osztály
összetétele miatt mondom (2.0) jó rendben van akkor légyszíves Reni maradj is
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66 S : ears
67 T : ears írd le légyszíves a táblára hogy ears (3.0) mhm (1.0) rendben van ıı csüccs le
második Balázs mi volt
68 S : head head
69 T : head head menj légyszíves írd le gyerekek nagyon sokan nem írták le jól úgyhogy
legyenek szívesek és javítani várjál Hajnika írd le azt hogy head (5.0) ((student
writing it up on the board)) így van következı Hajni mi volt?
70 S : nose
71 T : tessék
72 S : nose
73 T : Nose hogy írjuk menjél írd le a táblára (7.0) így van következı Judit
S : mouth
74 T : mouth így van (6.0) mmmmmmm ott van egy kis gikszer mert Csilla mi a rossz?
75 S : o
76 T : így van o o-val írjuk Judit légyszíves javítsd ki (2.0) táblán tökéletesen legyen
mert nem szeretném ha rosszul írnátok le következı Jolika
77 S : nose
78 T : az nem az már volt meg volt a mouth is az ötödiket mondd
79 S : az ötödiket
80 T : igen (3.0) nem írtál semmit Zoli (3.0) ııı Laci
81 S : toes
82 T : hát ı (1.0) az nem toes Szilvi neked mi lett?
83 S : legs
84 T : legs írd fel légyszíves a táblára gyerekek ez legs (6.0) Táncos Ákos a hatodik mi
lett?
85 S : hands
86 T : írd fel (10.0) Virág következı
87 S : mmm knees
88 T : knees tudjátok ká és a kát nem ejtjük knee úgyhogy ezt egy kicsit nehéz is leírni
pont ezért (6.0) jó mi a következı Reni
89 S : arms
90 T : arms (5.0) és az utolsó Csilla
91 S : azt nem tudtam
92 T : Balázs (2.0) mondjad mondjad
93 S : toes
94 T : toes írd le igen (2.0) mehetsz táblához persze csak szeretném hallani hogy mit
szeretnél leírni mert ha nem jó akkor nem küldelek ki
95 S : toes leírni nem tudom
96 T : leírni nem tudod ki tudja leírni? Csilla (1.0) szaladj akkor figyelj Balázs légyszíves
javíts a tábláról jó mert ide most úgy vannak leírva hogy ez alapján nyugodtan le
lehet írni (1.0) aaaha (1.0) ez nem jött volna ki a keresztrejtvényben Virág menjél
légyszíves javítsd ki (6.0) így van azt kérdezném hogy függılegesen mi jött ki?
Szilvi
97 S : shoulders
98 T : shoulders így van shoulders (1.0) jó ((pronuncing it jjjo)) nézzük meg az utána lévı
feladatot a hetest (1.0) ugye a have vagy a has használata mikor melyiket
használjuk ki az aki el tudná nekem mondani? (2.0) Robika
99 S : amikor egyes szám harmadik személyt használunk
100 T : a
101 S : nem értettem mit mondott Robika
102 T : kicsikém a have-t vagy a has-t használjuk egyes szám harmadik
103 S : has
104 T : has így van (2.0) rendben van akkor egy kicsit gyakoroluk ezt aa testrészekkel
kombináljuk jó? Pisti kijön ide középre (1.0) és Pistiról mindenki mond egy
mondatot angolul (1.0) hogy neki mije van valamelyik testrészét nagy szeme kis
szája (1.0) pici füle rövid haja satöbbi satöbbi mindenkinek kell egy mondatot
mondania (1.0) Ákos kezdjed
105 S : ?
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107 S : he has got a (4.0) brown head

108 T : brown head he has got brown head végül is jó igen Szilvi
109 S : he has got he has got a black hair
110 T : hair he has got black hair? Szandra
111 S : he has got big (1.0) eyes
112 T : eyes he has got big eyes így van de még mekkorák a szemei Csilla
113 S : he has got big mouth
114 T : he has got big mouth rendben Reni
115 S : he has got long arm
116 T : arms arms de a karokról még mást is lehet mondani szerintetek a Pistinek (1.0)
short or long he has got long arms így van ım Hajni
117 S : he has got a (1.0) big mouth
118 S : he has got big mouth ez már asszem volt igaz Virág
119 S : he has got long legs
120 T : he has got long legs így van ı Judit
121 S : he has got big ears
122 T : he has got big ears mhm Balázs
123 S : he has got small hair
124 T : small hair inkább short hair jó másik Balázs
125 S : he has got black arms
126 T : milyen (1.0) milyen arms?
127 S : black arms
128 T : black arms jó az nem érdekes inkább más tulajdonságra lennék kíváncsi Sanyi
129 S : he has got long toes
130 T : jó ((pronunced jjo)) rendben ha azt mondtuk figyeljetek rám mindjárt ha azt
mondtuk hogy Pisti has got? (1.0) long arms he has got long legs (2.0) akkor mit
mondhatunk összefoglalóan hogyha valakinek hosszúak a lábai vagy hosszúak a
kezei?
131 S : tall
132 T : így van he is^
133 Ss : tall
134 T : he is tall aztán még mit mondhatunk el róla is he fat or is he thin he is^
135 S : thin
136 T : thin így van tehát a Pisti egy magas vékony fiú igaz rendben van csücsülj a
helyedre Szilvit kérném szépen ki (2.0) Szilvi és akkor most a Robika kezdheti a
Szilvivel jó
137 S : Szilvi’s ı
138 T : Szilvi has
139 S : big (1.0) big head
140 T : big head (1.0) hát azér nem annyira big head-je van neki szerintem pont jó ı Hajni
141 S : Szilvi’s got ı black
142 T : hair nem orange (2.0) ((laughter and chatting it seems the student is asking for the
word fair hair)) gyerekek ez az amit többször is elmondok hogy új szavakkal
szeretnének dolgozni nem tehát az amit most tudunk inkább az rögzıdjön én
szívesen megmondanám neked meg is mondom majd de most próbáljunk meg
abból a szókészletbıl építkezni amit tudunk jó Virág
143 S : Szilvi has got small nose
144 T : Szilvi has got small nose Pisti
145 S : Szilvi has got blue eyes
146 T : Szilvi has got blue eyes jó kék a szemed Szilvi?
147 S : hát kékeszöld
148 T : hát green or blue mhm ı Balázs (4.0) ((blowing nose sound)) hm szája orra
149 S : ı Szilvi has got (2.0) big mouth
150 T : big mouth fıleg amikor beszél akkor van big mouth igaz Sanyi
151 S : Szilvi has got ı big shoulders
152 T : big shoulders mhm lehet mondani végül is de nem nevetsz a másikon mert ez nem
arra megy ki hanem arra hogy tudjuk jellemezni (1.0) jó aztán Balázs
153 S : Szilvi has got small toes ((wrong pronunciation))
154 T : small toes mm olyan kis aranyosak a lábai igen jó rendben van köszönöm szépen
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megyünk ki többet hanem hanem szeretném hogyha a munkafüzetben ezt a hetes

feladatot akkor megcsinálnánk jó tehát megbeszéltük a have vagy a has
használatát hogy mikor melyiket kell használni most jellemeztünk két
osztálytársatokat is úgyhogy legyetek szívesek és kitölteni kettıt nem ki volt kint
ja hármat a Csillával együtt így van egyestıl az ötösig jó hogy szerintetek have
vagy has (39.0) ((teacher walking around checking))
155 S : ott ott nevet kell írni?
156 T : nem nevet kell írni hát hogy kérdezünk I have got abból hogy lesz kérdés?
157 S : have
158 T : így van (1.0) tehát a have jön elıre ugye (3.0) Lacikám tedd már le azt az üveget
kisfiam
159 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
160 T : mert kérdés kicsim kérdıjel van a végén és akkor
161 S : jaj igen
162 T : rájöttél jól van (5.0) jó ı nincs túl sok idınk úgyhogy én azt látom hogy már
szerintem mindenki kész inkább ellenırizzük gyorsan le jó Csilla szeretném ha az
elsı mondatot olvasnád és le is fordítanád
163 S : (2.0) Tracy has got black hair ((wrong proninciation))
164 T : hair mhm mit jelent a mon
165 S : Tracynak fekete a haja
166 T : így van második Pisti
167 S : Ken have got
168 T : has ((pronuncing it haas)) got Ken
169 S : Ken has got a hat on his head
170 T : mit jelent?
171 S : a Kennek van (1.0) ? (1.0) sapkája a fején
172 T : így van Kennek sapka van a fején ı Reni harmadik
173 S : Ken and Kate has got a
174 T : ó ha azt mondom hogy Ken és Kati az milyen szám hányadik személy? Ken és
Kate^
175 Ss : ık ık többes szám harmadik három
176 T : több tehát nem has hanem
177 Ss : have have
178 T : aha Ken and Kate have got (1.0) happy faces mit jelent? Reni
179 S : Kennek és Katenek
180 T : milyen az arca?
181 Ss : mosolygós
182 T : happy mosolygós boldog vidám így van ı Csilla
183 S : have they got big nose
184 T : noses ((correcting pronunciation)) ez egy kérdés mit kérdezünk itt?
185 S : ne^
186 T : nekik^
187 S : nekik nagy az orruk?
188 T : így van nekik nagy az orruk? ı Ákos utolsó
189 S : has Kate got her
190 T : her
191 S : a parrot on her sholder
192 T : a parrot on her sholder mhm fordítsd le légyszíves Ákos
193 S : Katinak ı (1.0) Katinak (2.0) Katinak a
194 T : na
195 S : Katinak Katinak a (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
196 T : jaaj nem nem nem nem (2.0) semmi baj semmi baj fí segíts neki
197 S : Katinak van papagáj a vállán?
198 T : így van így van vállán Katinak egy papagáj? mhm jó rendben van akkor nem
mardt más hátra mint (2.0) mint a házi feladat negyven ötödik oldalon
199 S : egyes
200 T : így van az egyes feladat ı aki kész van vele otthon az nyugodtan kiszínezheti a
képeket jó ez ugye már amit vettünk eddig ez a benne fölötte alatta mellette ez
igazából már csak egy kis ismétlés és szeretném hogyha az lenne az elsı hogy
könyv nélkül töltsd ki figyelj rám kicsim könyv nélkül töltsd ki és utána

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leellenırizheted magad de ezt már annyira kell tudnod hogy ezt kútfıbıl meg
kellene tudni csinálni jó
201 S : de muszáj kiszínezni?
202 T : nem muszáj kiszínezni aki szeretné az kiszínezheti jó és akkor szeretném hogyha
elpakolnátok néma csendben mert ebédszünet jön úgyhogy ı az ellenırzıket
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Lesson Hajni 1

1 T : good morning
2 Ss : good morning
3 T : ö who is absent today? Kriszti?
4 S : Bence is absent
5 T : today yes thank you sit down please (5.0) ((children sitting down)) now we sing good
morning the song yes
6 T& : good morning good morning how are you how are you I’m fine thank you good
s afternoon good afternoon how are you how are you I’m fine thank you good morning
good morning how are you how are you I’m fine good bye good bye good bye good
bye good bye good bye good bye good bye good bye good bye good bye good bye
good bye
7 T : it’s ok and
8 T& : one’s a number two’s a number three’s a number four number five is under six and
Ss number seven’s more eight’s a number nine’s a number now we come to ten and we’re
back at ones again
9 T& : ((wispering)) one’s a number two’s a number three’s a number four number five is
Ss under six number seven’s more eight’s a number nine’s a number now we come to ten
and we’re back at ones again
10 T : ((wispering)) so thank you?
11 T : the next? work is long and
12 S : short
13 T : long and
14 Ss : short
15 T : short
16 T& : big and small old and young fat and thin
Ss
17 T : it’s ok feladatunk a következı lesz kérek szépen majd tíz embert mindenki fog
dolgozni a mai órán cs figyelj mindenki fog dolgozni a mai órán viszont ı
türelmesen várjuk ki tíz embert kérek a feladat lesz ı kapsz egy ı tulajdonságot
és megkeresed annak az ellentétét yes opposite word hm? Kriszti ö sorry sorry ö
come here Kriszti come here and Fruzsi Fruzsi? Dávid Viktor cs sssss (4.0) yeah mhm
(6.0) no (6.0) sss o nem kaptál? akkor az a tied gyorsan no tehát akkor a fiú ki?
18 S : Viktor
19 T : Viktor s akkor sorry akkor Viktor jó leülsz a helyedre o bocsánat a feladatunk az
lesz hogy ugye megkérdezzük a másiktól hogy ki milyen vagyis nézzük kezdjük a
Krisztit who are you?
20 S : how are you old?
21 T : no no no
22 S : who are you old?
23 T : no
24 S : are you
25 S : are you old?
26 T : what’s the question?
27 S : yes it is
28 T : no no no it’s not answer are you
29 S : are you old?
30 T : are you old?
31 S : yes it
32 T : no who knows?
33 S : yes I am
34 T : yes I am o it’s ok yes I am no please ö Narmin start m hát (4.0) question are you^
35 S : are you (5.0)
36 T : tall what’s the opposite tall? (3.0) hm? who knows? what’s the opposite tall? what’s
the opposite tall? (4.0) tall and^
37 Ss : short
38 T : short na please

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39 S : are you short?

40 S : no I te I not
41 T : mhm
42 S : are you short?
43 S : no not I am
44 T : no I’m not
45 S : no I’m not
46 S : are you short?
47 S : no I’m not
48 S : are you short?
49 S : no I’m not
50 S : are you short?
51 S : no I am
52 T : no I’m not
53 S : no I’m not
54 T : mhm
55 S : are you short?
56 S : yes yes you
57 T : I am yes I am it’s ok Fruzsi please
58 S : are you tall?
59 T : no
60 S : are you thin?
61 T : mhm
62 S : yes I am
63 T : mhm no it’s ok
64 S : are you a (xxxx?)
65 S : yes I am
66 T : mhm
67 S : are you small?
68 S : yes I am
69 T : yes it’s ok please sit down and give me your paper (4.0) it’s ok (4.0) and ? other group
please open your ? book on page forty please open your book on page ? forty and (3.0)
I like three three persons Sanyi Sanyi ö ö Narmin and Szebasztián come here with
book come here with book mhm and Betti Betti Betti Barbara and Dávid (6.0) sssssssss
mhm yes
70 S : ja ez az
71 T : gyere mondok neked valamit ((wispering from now on)) te az egyes sort fogod
választani az a tiéd
72 S : ((wispering)) melyik?
73 T : ((wispering)) az egyes sort fogod választani jó? ı majd megkérdezi van neked
valamid te te te az egyes sort kell hogy kitalálja hogy te az vagy jó?((wispering to
another)) te a második sort kell hogy válasszad jó? (xxxx) (3.0) jó? Te a harmadik
sort kell hogy válasszad (xxxx xxxx)
74 T : hm no no please ?m Dávid start have you got most meg kell találnod hogy melyik sor
az övé jó?
75 S : have you got a red bicycle?
76 S : no no I haven’t
77 T : mhm
78 S : mm ou
79 T : akkor nézel egy másikat mert valószínő abba nincs
80 S : ı
81 T : cs nahát válasszál valamelyiket tessék green car
82 S : have you got a green car?
83 S : green car? Yes
84 T : I yes I have yes I have
85 S : mhm
86 T : most megnézed ugye a green car kettı van melyikbıl választod vagy ezt mondod
tovább vagy ezt
87 S : have you got a black (xxxx?)
88 S : no I no I haven’t

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89 T : mhm
90 S : have you got a blue (xxxx?)
91 S : no I haven’t
92 T : ha itt már ez nem volt akkor ugye nem ebbe nem (xxxx) tovább akkor keressük a
másik sort Dávid ha ez már azt mondta hogy nincs akkor már csak az a másik sor
lehet próbáld meg hogy az igaz-e
93 S : have you got a blue (xxxx?)
94 S : yes I have
95 T : mhm és akkor ö melyik számod lesz az övé?
96 S : ?
97 T : na which number is? Which number is?
98 S : one
99 T : one yes you got number one it’s ok now sit down please sit down please ? Sanyi
Narmin please ask ask Sanyi hát amelyiket mondtam vagy ı Narminnak mondtam a
számot? hát melyiket mondtam neked?
100 S : have you got a red bicycle?
101 T : no no no no no ? Narmin ? Narmin will ask cs keep silence please Márti have you got
102 S : (xxxx xxxx?)
103 T : mhm
104 S : have you got a elıször
105 T : hát elıször bármelyiket
106 S : have you got a a blue jeans?
107 T : mhm
108 S : no I haven’t
109 T : mhm (5.0)
110 S : have you got a white blouse?
111 S : no I haven’t
112 T : mhm (2.0) a white blouse mhm
113 S : have you got a black (xxxx?)
114 S : no I haven’t
115 S : have you got a violin coat?
116 T : what? yellow coat
117 S : yellow coat?
118 S : no I haven’t
119 T : mhm
120 S : have you got a red bicycle?
121 S : yes I have
122 T : mhm (4.0)
123 S : have you got a green car?
124 S : no I haven’t
125 T : azért hogyha ugye akkor mert azt mondta hogy igen van akkor ugye kizárásos
alapon tehát akkor már abból a sorból kell keresni
126 S : ebbıl?
127 T : hát vagy ebbıl vagy ebbıl amelyikbe volt igen egyszer végre találtunk hm (3.0)
128 S : have you got a red scarf?
129 S : yes I have
130 S : have you got a blue balloon?
131 S : yes I have
132 S : have you got a violin
133 T : nono yellow
134 S : have you got a yellow (xxxx?)
135 S : yes I have
136 T : no after (3.0)
137 S : you have got a number two
138 T : it’s ok?
139 S : yes
140 T : yes it’s all right sit down please no Betti and Barbara
141 S : have you got a green socks?
142 S : yes it isn’t
143 T : no no no yes I have

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144 S : yes I have (4.0) na (2.0)

145 S : have you got a yellow coat?
146 S : yes I have
147 T : mhm
148 S : have you got a blue jeans?
149 S : yes I have
150 S : have you got a white blouse? ((blouse pronounced incorrectly in the Hungarian way))
151 T : blouse?
152 S : blouse?
153 S : yes I have (3.0)
154 T : no which number is?
155 S : which number is?
156 T : no no no it’s a question you’ve got
157 S : you’ve got
158 T : number
159 S : number one ? three? (4.0)
160 S : yes I have
161 T : mhm yes it’s all right sit down please (2.0) it’s ok and (5.0) ? Imi Imi Marcsi Márti and
and Dávid come here ss cs and don’t talk please ((writing on board)) cs tiéd lesz ez a
szó ((writing on board)) cs cs no there is a chalk please and write a word this is a
colour
162 S : colour
163 T : this is a colour Marcsi come here it’s a colour and Márti no please open your ? exercise
and take your ? black pencil and write ? these words please who knows? ? yes it’s ok
sit down please sit down yes it’s ok cs sssss (4.0) ((children sitting down)) it’s ok mhm
yeah it’s yellow everybody repeat
164 T& : yellow blue green red ö please say word with ö this colour yellow
Ss
165 S : sárga
166 T : no ö please say a other word yellow coat yellow
167 S : jeans
168 S : yellow
169 T : yellow jeans maybe yellow
170 S : shirt
171 T : shirt it’s ok blue please say another verb? ve? word
172 S : blue balloon ((baloon pronounced incorrectly))
173 T : blue
174 S : ballon ((incorrect again)) ))
175 T : balloon
176 Ss : balloon
177 T : blue balloon mhm ö Márti
178 S : shirt
179 T : yes it’s ok and other word?
180 S : green socks
181 T : green socks mhm green^
182 S : (xxxx)
183 T : (xxxx) it’s all right and red red^
184 S : bicycle
185 T : bicycle everybody knows
186 S : red skirt
187 T : red skirt mhm na akkor most én mondok nektek szavakat cs fekete cipı who
knows? Szebasztián
188 S : black shoes
189 T : black shoes ı fehér ing
190 S : white blouse ((blouse not pronounced correctly))
191 T : white blouse ((emphasis to show right pronunciation)) mhm piros szoknya
192 S : red
193 S : red skirt
194 T : it’s ok ö zöld póló Sanyi
195 S : green shirt

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196 T : mhm t-shirt green t-shirt ö kék farmer mmm Dávid

197 S : blue jeans
198 T : blue jeans yes it’s all right (14.0) ö please show me red pencil red p show me red
pencil what does yes it’s ok red pencil please show me blue book
199 S : blue
200 T : ö it’s exercise book yes there is book there is a book and there is an exercise book
mhm it’s all right? show me white rubber
201 S : rubber
202 T : white white rubber yes it’s all right ö show me cs show me blue pen (5.0) blue pen
mhm it’s all right ö show me white ruler
203 S : white ruler?
204 T : white ruler
205 S : fehér vonalzó
206 T : cs yes it’s it’s all right it’s a white ruler yes it’s ok thank you very much and Gábor?
show me a green board in ? the classroom show me the green board
207 S : zöld
208 S : zöld hajó
209 T : board not boat hmm green board (4.0) no (2.0)
210 S : á
211 T : mhm what does it mean board? board?
212 S : tö tábla
213 S : tábla
214 T : tábla tábla és ugye azt szoktuk mondani hogy blackboard ugye általában ugye az
szokott lenni a termekben itt green board yes it’s ok ö what’s this? What’s this?
215 S : head
216 S : head
217 S : head
218 T : it’s a head yes and what’s this?
219 S : it’s eyes
220 T : it’s eyes what’s this?
221 S : ear
222 T : ear what’s this?
223 Ss : nose
224 T : nose what’s this?
225 Ss : mouth
226 T : mouth and what’s this?
227 Ss : shoulder
228 T : shoulder yes and what’s this?
229 Ss : arm
230 T : arm arms yes what’s this?
231 S : le leg
232 T : no no
233 S : hand
234 T : hand everybody
235 Ss : hand
236 T : hand what’s this?
237 Ss : hand
238 T& : hand
Ss
239 T : it’s ok and what’s this? what’s this?
240 S : ö feet
241 S : leg
242 T : leg and legs leg legs it’s all right everybody repeat please Piri legs legs everybody
repeat
243 Ss : legs
244 T : legs what’s this? no
245 S : foot
246 T : foot and two
247 S : feet
248 T : feet csak most ugye nem nagyon nehéz foot yes and what’s this?

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249 S : ö
250 Ss : toe
251 T : toe yes toe it’s all right no (4.0) touch your cs touch azaz érintsd meg érintsd meg no
touch your eyes
252 S : eyes
253 T : touch your eyes touch your eyes
254 S : érintsd meg a szemed
255 T : yes yes thank you touch your shoulders
256 S : tudod
257 T : mhm touch your hand cscs touch your ears
258 S : ears?
259 T : ears
260 S : ja az
261 T : everybody Piri and Márti touch your ears mhm touch your nose cs sss ö keep silence
please touch your nose yes touch your mouth mhm ? touch your toes no (4.0)
((children laughing while touching toes)) touch your toes yes it’s all right (7.0) no
stand up please (3.0) cs (4.0) cs sssssss ((clapping to keep order)) children Sanyi Sanyi
and Imi please no we will listen the tape and we will sing with the cassette cs and show
the parts of the body ((claps once)) please Marcsi
262 C : Chatter Box book one side two
263 T : cs sss
264 C : unit eleven section thirty-three listen and sing
265 T : hm and and touch show
266 C : head and shoulders knees and toes knees and toes head and shoulders knees and toes
knees and toes and eyes and ears and mouth and nose head and shoulders knees and
toes knees and toes
267 T : csss Betti Betti Betti
268 C : arms and legs and feet and hands feet and hands arms and legs and feet and hands feet
and hands and eyes and ears and mouth and nose head and shoulders knees and toes
knees and toes
269 T : no (6.0) no once more and you ha you have to sing yes
270 C : side two unit eleven section thirty-three
271 T : Szebasztián
272 C : listen and sing
273 T : sing and show
274 C& : head and shoulders knees and toes
Ss
275 T : Piri próbáld meg
276 C& : head and shoulders knees and toes knees and toes and eyes and ears and mouth and
Ss nose head and shoulders knees and toes knees and toes
277 T : próbáld is utánozni a többieket Viktor
278 C& : arms and legs feet and hands feet and hands arms and legs and feet and hands feet and
Ss hands and arms and ears and mouth and nose head and shoulders knees and toes knees
and toes
279 T : thank you sit down please (7.0) no please close the book and close the exercise book
and I gave you a paper and you have to draw watch the monster watch the monster yes
280 S : szörnyeteg?
281 T : you have to draw the monster but cs (2.0) ((undisciplined children)) I will say cs sssss
Sanyi Sanyi Sanyi Dávid and I will say what kind of monster yes
282 S : szörnyet kell lerajzolni?
283 T : mhm no close the book please (4.0) ((still undisciplined)) Betti close your book (8.0)
((constant chatting)) no no no css sssss no please (6.0) ((less talking)) ((teacher claps
once)) no keep silence ((claps twice)) keep silence I’m a small monster I’m a small
monster you have to draw I’m a small monster csss
284 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx?)
285 T : no no no I’m a small monster (3.0) csssss don’t talk please Sanyi (8.0) cs ssssss (6.0)
the next sentence I’ve got a big head I’ve got a big head ((writing sentence on board in
9 seconds)) don’t ? please don’t talk Imi I’ve got four eyes (3.0) ((teacher writing
sentence on board after pause)) cs ssssssssssssss (3.0) Márti I’ve got a big mouth (7.0)
((writes sentence on board)) csssss (4.0) I’ve got six long arms (10.0) ((writes sentence

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on board)) (3.0) Sanyi I’ve got three small feet (9.0) ((teacher writes sentence on board
until second 8))
286 S : három lába lesz? ((in second 3))
287 S : három lába? ((in second 6))
288 T : and I’ve got six big hands (8.0) ((writes sentence on board and puts down choak)) (5.0)
cssssss cssssssssss
289 S : de ott van odaírva
290 T : mhm (4.0) no don’t talk please draw (6.0)
291 S : nem lehet hogy nem rajzolunk szörnyet én nem bírok rajzolni
292 T : I’ve got a big head
293 S : miért nem jó a szörnyem?
294 T : four eyes (5.0) big mouth six long arms three small feet and six big hands hm
295 S : az enyém jó lesz? (4.0) ((a pupil is constantly laughing))
296 T : how many eyes?
297 S : (xxxx xxxx)
298 T : I’ve got
299 S : ja azt is (xxxx)
300 T : mhm (4.0) I’ve got a big head I’ve got a big head (2.0) and four eyes (6.0) mhm (3.0)
no big mouth only only one mouth (4.0) no children Sanyi Sanyi (4.0) no what’s the
hand? who knows? hands ö Szebasztián hands what does it mean in Hungarian?
Szebasztián what does it mean in Hungarian hands? hm? na (3.0) hands kézfejek
301 S : hands
302 T : kézfejek mhm
303 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx?)
304 T : no Sanyi (12.0) mhm (30.0) no? (6.0) four eyes please draw mhm (4.0) ja az jó
305 5.0) quickly quickly mhm (5.0) cscscscscsssssss (2.0)
306 S : kicsi ez a szörny?
307 T : jó az jó (12.0) jó ezt kérem kérem jó I think you are ready I think you are ready?
Dávid please Szebasztián cssss (7.0) no it’s ok no please (4.0) ö this is a monster na
please don’t smile yes ö this is a monster ö I’m a small monster it’s ok ö I’ve got big
head I think it’s good I’ve got four eyes it’s ok I’ve got big mouth the six long arms six
long arm it’s how many arms? there are hm? two two arms it’s not good and hm cs sss
six? long arms three small feet one two it isn’t good because it’s too feet mhm ö what’s
wrong? in this picture?
308 S : két fej
309 T : yes it’s ö English please
310 S : two two heads
311 T : two heads yes two heads only one head mhm yes small csssss Szebasztián small
monster for ö eyes a big mouth six? long arms three? small feet is six big hands I think
it’s ok it’s Kriszti? draws pirospontot beírhatsz magadnak (6.0) ı ott volt hogy six
six big hands I think it’s a small hands big big hands six big hands mhm no please?
((claps once)) put your put your paper into the book put yo put your paper into the
book yes ss (2.0) and (4.0) cs please repeat these sentences (3.0) repeat I’m a small
monster everybody
312 T& : I’m a small monster
Ss
313 T : I’ve got a big head
314 Ss : I’ve got a big head
315 T : I’ve got four eyes
316 Ss : I’ve got four eyes
317 T : I’ve got a big mouth
318 Ss : I’ve got a big mouth
319 T : I’ve got six long arms
320 Ss : I’ve got six long arms
321 T : I’ve got three small feet
322 Ss : I’ve got three small feet
323 T : I’ve got six big hands
324 Ss : I’ve got six big hands
325 T : I said put your paper into the book please (12.0) cs sssss no children what’s the
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weather the weather is (2.0) cold and it’s snowing it’s snowing yes it’s snowing what
does it mean it’s snowing?
326 S : ma esik a hó
327 T : esik a hó it’s snowing yes ((claps once)) s it’s ok yes css (11.0) ((writes on board from
sec 4)) cs css don’t talk please (2.0) keep silence (2.0) Viktor and Zsolti Zsolti please
hm ö today it’s snowing esik a hó éppen most esik a hó it’s snowing snow hó
328 S : hull a hó
329 T : no
330 S : szakad a hó
331 T : no no no no no
332 S : board az ı deszka
333 T : snowboard it’s ok (3.0)
334 S : snowboardozunk?
335 T : csssss snowboard hódeszka mhm (4.0) no please? what does it mean in English snow
snow
336 S : ball
337 T : snow
338 S : ball
339 Ss : ball
340 T : snowball yes it’s ok snowball (4.0) ((draws on board)) yes it’s ok snowball
341 S : hógolyó
342 T : mhm
343 S : hógolyó
344 T : and what does it mean in English ö szánkó? ha emlékeztek vissza tanultuk a egy
dalt karácsony közelé és abban szerepelt egy ilyen szavacska szánkózni sledge
mhm sledge (2.0) sledge mhm and ssss what kind of season now? what kind of season
now? season
345 S : season
346 T : in Hungarian season what does it mean who knows? season szezon season
347 S : ja szezon
348 T : sze
349 S : szezon
350 S : téli szezon
351 T : hogy mondjuk ezt másképpen? szezon és helyette
352 S : snow season
353 S : snow season
354 T : valakitıl hallottam
355 S : snow season
356 S : snow season
357 S : snow season
358 T : mondjuk ezt magyar szóval próbáljuk meg
359 S : hószezon
360 T : a season szót
361 S : season szezon
362 S : szezon
363 T : de ez ugye ez egy már átvett szó igazándi hogyan mondjuk ezt magyarul milyen
364 S : turistaszezon
365 S : idı
366 S : idı
367 T : na idı már ez közelít cs ssss
368 S : hó
369 S : havas idı
370 T : no
371 S : havas szezon
372 T : winter
373 S : tél
374 T : spring
375 S : tavasz
376 T : summer and autumn hm?
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378 S : winter
379 T : in Hungarian
380 S : lesíelés lesiklás
381 T : gyerekek évszak
382 S : évszak
383 T : évszak tehát season évszak mhm winter ((writes on board)) yes winter
384 S : az mit jelent?
385 T : tehát tél tél tél tél mhm (4.0) ki az aki el tudná nekem mondani hogy például azt
mondjuk hogy hócipı
386 S : hócipı?
387 S : snow ı
388 T : hócipı próbálja az elıbb nagyon ügyesen ı találtátok meg a hógolyót hólabdát
hócipı
389 S : snowboot
390 S : snow
391 T : snow boot snowboot a boot az egyébként csizmát is ı jelent ugye onnan a snowboot
hócipı mhm it’s ok no nézzük akkor milyen szavakat ı tudunk ehhez a ı mai
idıjáráshoz mondani? Snow repeat
392 T& : snow
Ss
393 T : it’s snowing
394 Ss : it’s snowing
395 S : snowball
396 T : snowboard
397 Ss : snowboard
398 T : snowboard
399 Ss : snowboard
400 T : no sorry snowball
401 Ss snowball
402 T : sledge
403 Ss : sledge
404 T : winter
405 Ss : winter
406 T : mhm (2.0) hogy mondjuk azt hogy ma esik a hó?
407 S : ı today
408 S : today
409 S : today snow
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Lesson Hajni 2

1 T : what’s the weather like (6.0) mhm (2.0) weather today?

2 S : sunny
3 T : yes today is sunny (8.0) ((students are chatting)) how are you Kriszti?
4 S : I’m fine thank you
5 T : yes it’s all right and ı Barbara how are you?
6 S : ı I’m fine thank you
7 T : yes Gábor how are you?
8 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
9 T : thanks it’s all right I’m very happy (2.0) ı Szilvi what colour is your book what colour
is your book this what colour is your book?
10 S : ı your book
11 T : ı no my book is^
12 S : my book is blue
13 T : yet it’s ok Dávid what colour is your pencil? my pencil^
14 S : my pencil is red
15 T : yes it’s ok? Sanyi ı what colour is your rubber?
16 S : ı ı white
17 T : my rubber is^
18 S : white
19 T : yes it’s all right ı Gábor what colour is your pen?
20 S : ı black black
21 S : my pen is (2.0)
22 T : my pen^
23 S : my pen is^ (1.0) black (2.0) black (2.0) ö black
24 T : black yes what colour is^
25 Ss : black black
26 T : black yes the pen is black ı (4.0) what colour is your pencil? Zsolt
27 S : ı my pencil is orange
28 T : is orange yes it’s ok (5.0) no please (25.0) ((teacher is writing on the board)) you stand
up please ((the students stand up)) and we will sing and ı my head and shoulders song
yeah no start ((the teacher is singing loudly, the students are much quieter))
29 T& : head and shoulders knees and toes knees and toes head and shoulders knees and toes
Ss knees and toes and eyes and ears and mouth and nose head and shoulders knees and
toes knees and toes arms and legs and feet and hands arms and legs and feet and hands
feet and hands and eyes and ears and mouth and nose head and shoulders knees and
toes knees and toes
30 T : yes sit down please (5.0) ((the students sit down)) ö stand stand up and you have to
come here yes and I will give you the papers and please put the ı right ö (3.0) please
(2.0) please please please come (3.0) s s s no ö how is vocabulary and ö parts of the
body and colours and ((teacher is tearing paper)) it’s ok please Marcsi everybody come
here (2.0) ((sound of more tearing of paper)) and please work quickly quickly
everybody come here (1.0) ((sound of more tearing paper)) (2.0) ssss (5.0) ((sound of
more tearing paper)) (1.0) yes it’s all right Sanyi Viktor and the others stand here and
please put the paper ont he blackboard (4.0) ((sound of more tearing paper and
chatting)) (4.0) ((sound of more tearing paper)) Zsolti and the other boys and girls
come here quickly (4.0) yes (3.0) ((sound of more tearing paper)) (4.0) yes it’s ok it ?
((one student is asking for something from the teacher and gets it)) (4.0) if you (10.0)
hoppáré (25.0) ((chatting and preparing for the exercise)) no please (4.0) Betti Peti
(4.0) no (3.0) are you ready Gábor are you ready? Nahát (2.0) put somewhere no
colours black brown green pink red blue orange purple white yellow
31 S : cupboard
32 T : are good but cupboard (2.0) Zsuzsi (2.0) Nikolett please (2.0) ı Sanyi come here and
please ı (2.0) correct the paper (3.0) yes its ok and ı parts of the body toes legs body
eyes nose head and whiskers what does it mean whiskers who knows?
33 Ss : kutyakaja
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35 Ss : macskakaja
36 T : yes it’s ok but what does it mean whiskers? it’s a^
37 Ss : bajusz
38 T : macskabajusz whiskers macska ö house vocabulary bath house carpet chair door
cupboard stairs bed room floor a forest ((reading the words from the board)) a (4.0) the
house is in the forest yeah it’s ok (2.0) m (2.0) ı what does it mean ı in Hungarian
happy?
39 Ss : boldog
40 T : I’m very happy because today the weather is sunny Dávid boldog yes and what does it
mean ı if I am angry?
41 S : Mérges
42 T : angry Sanyi
43 S : mérges
44 T : mérges yes and what does it mean ı if ı you are furious furious furious it’s a very
angry very angry
45 S : nagyon mérges
46 T : nagyon mérges még egy fokkal ugye tehát nagyon dühös nagyon nagyon mérges
furious and what does it mean laugh? (3.0)
47 S : nevet
48 T : laugh laugh hm ı valamit ott mondott a Dávid kedves és utána valamit mondtál
még hm nevet nevet nevet nevet mhm yes and ı ridiculous (2.0) it’s a new word it’s a
new word (8.0) ridiculous nevetséges nevetséges and miserable ö szánalmas
miserable (18.0) no please repeat these wordsMarti Bogi sorry Bogi please repeat
ridiculous
49 S : ridiculous
50 T : miserable
51 S : miserable
52 T : furious
53 S : furious
54 T : happy
55 Ss : happy
56 T : angry
57 Ss : angry
58 T : what does it mean angry? Piri (4.0) viccelsz Attila?
59 S : Éhes
60 T : not not not ö no what does it mean éhes?
61 Ss : éhes hungry
62 T : hungry but not angry angry mérges and what does it mean happy? Barbara sorry
furious nagyon mérges haragos and miserable (3.0) hogy is mondtam szánalmas
ugye szánal and ridiculous
63 S : nevetséges
64 T : nevetséges nevetséges yes ö please close your eyes ((teacher claps once)) everybody
close your eyes and don’t stay close your eyes open your eyes mm yes it’s all right and
ö (2.0) you go to sleep you go to sleep az készülsz elaludni ugye go to sleep go to
sleep and we are sleeping (2.0) ö Dávid we are sleeping Márti tehát sleep alszik alszik
and ö (2.0) there is magic and magic wand
65 Ss : varázspálca
66 T : varázspálca
67 T : and I wave I wave with magic wand three times three times
68 Ss : háromszor
69 T : one two three and I will say abrakadabra abrakadabra yes it’s ok what’s this?
70 S : varázspálca
71 T : it’s magic wand magic wand yes (6.0) ı please say in Hungarian laugh laugh (4.0)
72 S : nevet
73 T : nevet yes close your eyes
74 Ss : nyisd ki a szemed csukd be a szemed
75 T : yes open your eyes
76 S : nyisd ki a szemed
77 T : go to sleep
78 S : aludjál

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79 T : aludni készül ugye aludni készül sleep (3.0) wave wave wave
80 Ss : varázsolni
81 T : nonono kırözni ugye tehát ezzel a varázspálcával yes it’s ok and trip over trip over
((the teacher shows it))
82 Ss : elesik
83 T : yes it’s ok elbotlik elbotlik elesik and the cat the cat climbs
84 Ss : macska mászik
85 T : mászik climb mászni climb mászni m it’s all right ö Zsolt what’s the problem no
please (18.0) no we will say ı an English alphabet
86 T& : a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z (9.0) sss (3.0) no please
Ss
87 T& : ((singing together)) a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z sss (8.0) ssss (6.0)
Ss no you have to say the next letter (3.0) which letter is ((she points at a letter))
88 S : w ((they pronunce it in Hungarian))
89 T : w ((THE TEACHER IS PRONUNCING IT IN ENGLISH)) (6.0) ((she points at a
letter)) this?
90 S : i
91 T : i ((she points at a letter))
92 S : i
93 T : i ((she points at a letter))
94 Ss : t
95 T : t ((she points at a letter)) (6.0)
96 S : h
97 T : h it’s ok ((she points at a letter)) (3.0)
98 S : k
99 T : k ((she points at a letter)) (3.0)
100 Ss : a
101 T : a ((she points at a letter)) (3.0)
102 Ss : g
103 T : not not not ((as the letter is not the g but the q))
104 S : q ((she pronuces it in Hungarian))
105 T : It’s a q q ((in English)) ((she points at a letter)) (2.0)
106 Ss : r
107 T : r ((she points at a letter)) (3.0)
108 Ss : m
109 T : M ((she points at a letter)) (3.0)
110 Ss : w
111 T : W ((she points at a letter)) (2.0)
112 Ss : u (2.0) u (2.0)
113 S : z
114 T : z z and f ssss (13.0) ((teacher is writing on the board the students are chatting)) sss no
you have to ı come to the blackboard Sanyi no Sanyi Dávid Fruzsi please ı Kriszti
and you have to you have to circ no please you have to circle eight words eight words
(2.0) yes you have to circle eight words (8.0) bocs bocs bocs bocs (4.0)
115 S : vizszintesen? V
116 T : no vertically or horizontally maybe circle sss (10.0) yes yes I will help you I will help
you yes please ssssss (2.0) no (3.0) yes Sanyi sit down please and Kriszti sit down and
ı go to the blackboard Barbara and other David (6.0) yes it’s ok (5.0) no (2.0) one two
three four and no sss (19.0)
117 S : de ez már megvan csak kéne még egy
118 T : no sit down please
119 S : jaj de jó
120 T : yeah it’s ok sit down (xxxx xxxx) (4.0) no it’s ok it’s ok ı read m everybody read bed
it’s all right door hair (xxxx) and who will find (2.0) Piri come here (8.0) yes it’s all
right eyes and chair
121 Ss : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx) chair
122 T : chair what does it mean bed?
123 Ss : ágy
124 T : ágy and hair?
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126 T : and hair?

127 S : a haj
128 T : haj mhm door? (2.0)
129 S : ajtó
130 T : mhm cat?
131 Ss : macska
132 T : yes and eyes?
133 S : szem
134 T : szem szemek mhm and ö it’s ok who will find ss who will find ı I mi ı don’t so please
ı who will find bath bath who will find bath
135 S : busz
136 T : not bus bath who will find (3.0)
137 S : megvan megvan megvan
138 T : Sanyi (4.0) ö no a feladat az volt hogy ugye bekarikázzuk circle és ezt viszont én
nem láttam sajnos szemüveg nélkül viszont akkor ezt elfogadom bath yes it’s ok
and who will find ö witch witch (2.0) witch (2.0)
139 S : meg megvan megvan
140 T : ö Dávid
141 S : megvan
142 T : Dávid ss Dávid and who will find house house (3.0) house (3.0) de arról volt szó hogy
143 S : én tudom
144 T : azért jelentkeztél mert tudod én azt hittem Imi
145 S : mmmm
146 T : house másik szó house (3.0) yes it’s all right
147 S : megvan megvan
148 T : house Gábor (2.0) yes (2.0) it’s all right (2.0) yeah no nononono yes house no ö Gábor
please spell this word h
149 S : h o u ((u with Hungarian spelling))
150 T : u
151 S : u
152 S : v
153 S : v
154 T : no don’t disturb (2.0) s
155 S : se
156 T : e it’s ok it’s ö house yes it’s all right (5.0)
156 T : no ı Kriszti please ö
157 S : video
158 T : video ((students laugh)) (3.0) sssssss (5.0)
159 S : ez ö mire másszak föl?
160 T : ide föl tudsz állni nyugodtan fölállhatsz oda nyugodtan állj fel (3.0) ssssss (9.0) a
kazettát beraktuk az benn van ssssssss (2.0) no
161 C : Wilbur is a black cat again. He is very happy (4.0) Winnie waves her magic wand three
times
162 T : three times
163 C : abrakadabra (4.0) now Winnie has got a yellow house (3.0) and a grey door the
chairs are white the carpet is green the (xxxx) is blue and the bath is white and now
Winnie can always see Wilbur (7.0)
164 T : m song e we will hear and after ö we will hear ö cassette player mhm
165 C : Winnie and Wilbur song Winnie the witch Winnie the witch Winnie the wonderful
witch Wilbur the cat Wilbur the cat Wilbur the very black cat together they live they
live they live they live in a beautiful house Wilbur and Winnie Winnie and Wilbur
Wilbur and Winnie the witch
166 T : yes it’s ok yes it was cssss it was the first part and (2.0) I will ö I will read the story
and you have to translate yes and please hands up where is Wilbur (2.0) what does it
mean where is Wilbur?
167 S : ö hol van Wilbur
168 T : mhm Winnie the witch lives in a big house in the forest Sanyi
169 S : erdıben van a ház
170 S : a ház erdıben van
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172 S : Winnie
173 T : Winnie a boszorkány az ott lakik mhm the house is black with a black roof (2.0)
Kriszti
174 S : a ház fekete fekete a teteje
175 T : it’s all right the cupboards are black (2.0) na everybody work please Viktor (2.0) the
cupboards are black (2.0) szekrények
176 S : feketék
177 T : mhm the chairs are black Kriszti
178 S : a székek feketék
179 T : the doors are black
180 S : az ajtók feketék
181 T : mhm the floor is black
182 S : a padló fekete
183 T : and the bed is black
184 S : az ágy fekete
185 T : even the bath is black even the bath is black black még a fürdıkád is fekete mhm
Winnie lives in her black house with her cat Wilbur He’s black too Bogi
186 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
187 T : a macska is fekete de elıtte?
188 S : (xxxx)
189 T : fekete a macska is tehát Winnie a fekete házban lakik az ı macskájával mhm
Wilbur has got green eyes
190 S : Wilburnek zöld a szeme
191 T : yes it’s all right when he sits on a chair with his eyes open
192 S : a fotelben
193 T : amikor
194 S : kinyitja a szemét
195 T : kinyitja a szemét ugye nyitva van a szeme Winnie can see him
196 S : látja
197 T : látja^
198 S : Wilburt
199 T : ıt vagy Wilburt yes well she can see his eyes
200 S : ha becsukja ha becsukja
201 T : no well she can see his eyes
202 S : meglátja
203 T : vagyis látja az ı^
204 S : szemeit
205 T : szemét szemét but when Wilbur closed his eyes (2.0)
206 S : (xxxx xxxx)
207 T : mhm and goes to sleep
208 S : és alszik
209 T : és elalszik ugye készül elaludni mhm Winnie can’t see him
210 S : nem látja
211 T : and she sits on him (2.0) and^ and^
212 S : ráül
213 T : sits on him és ö him és ı ráül ö when Wilbur sits on the floor when Wilbur sits on the
foor mhm with his eyes open (2.0) yes Winnie can see him
214 S : Winnie meg látja
215 T : látja ıt well she can see his eyes (2.0)
216 S : ı látja a szemeit
217 T : az ı szemét ö Zsolt try work please yes and don’t talk but when Wilbur closes his eyes
218 S : de hogyha becsukja a szemeit
219 T : and goes to sleep
220 S : és elalszik
221 S : és ı alszik
222 T : Winnie can’t see him
223 S : el akar aludni
224 T : Winnie can’t see him
225 S : nem látja
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227 S : lesik
228 T : megbotlik benne yeah it’s oek mhm (6.0) ((teacher is turning the pages)) the next part
Winnie is angry ı Bogi what does it mean angry? (7.0)non ö Bogi what does it mean?
(2.0) mhm Viktor
229 S : mérges
230 T : m Winnie is angry
231 S : Winnie mérges
232 T : one day Winnie trips over Wilbur and falls own the stairs falls down the stairs (2.0)
what does it mean stairs (2.0) stairs nonono lépcsı falls down the stairs yes she is
angry (3.0) she is angry yes mhm she waves her magic wand three times ((showing it))
233 Ss : háromszor lengeti a varázspálcáját
234 T : abrakadabra mhm now Wilbur is green now Wilbur is green
235 S : Wilbur zöld
236 T : yes (2.0) Imi Imi please ö Winnie can see Wilbur (5.0) Winnie can see Wilbur
237 S : Winnie mérges Wilbur-re
238 T : nonono látja
239 S : Winnie látja Wilbur-t
240 T : mhm when she sleep sleeps on a chair sleeps on a chair when^ (4.0)
241 S : leül a székre
242 T : no sleeps alszik
243 S : alszik
244 T : amikor a széken alszik Winnie can see Wilbur
245 S : nem látja Wilburt
246 T : can not can’t can see Wilbur
247 S : látja
248 T : mhm when he sleeps ont he floor (2.0)
249 S : leül a padlóra
250 T : amikor a fekszik alszik a
251 S : padlón
252 T : padlón vagyis lenn a földön ugye she can see Wilbur when he sleeps on the bed on
the bed
253 Ss : látja
254 T : és ezt ı látja mhm Winnie says (2.0) says says
255 S : Winnie mondja
256 T : mondja mondja mhm Wilbur (1.0) hm get off the bed get off the bed menj le az
ágyról menj ki az ágyra mhm Winnie is angry Dávid
257 S : Winnie ı
258 S : Winnie éhes
259 S : éhes
260 T : no Attila please (3.0) ezt az elıbb te rontottad el és most csúnya voltál mert a
Dávidnak rosszat mondtál (3.0) ezért haragszom what does it mean Dávid Winnie is
angry?
261 S : Winnie mérges
262 T : yes it’s ok and I’m angry (2.0) Winnie is ö ö Winnie puts the Wilbur ö in the garden
263 S : kirakja Wilburt a kertbe
264 T : yes the garden is green the garden is green Sanyi
265 S : zöld a kert
266 T : the garden is green
267 S : zöld a kert
268 T : yes it’s ok mhm and Winnie trips over the Wilbur
269 S : át elesik
270 T : yes
271 Ss : Wilbur-ön elesik Wilbur-ön
272 T : ı does three somersaults fla saults somersaults bukfencet háromszor ugye
bukfencezik falls into a bush bush
273 Ss : elesik bokorba
274 T : yeah beleesik a bokorba mhm Winnie is furious
275 Ss : mérges nagyon dühös
276 T : she takes out her magic wand
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278 T : takes out her magic wand

279 Ss : megfogja a varázspálcát
280 T : waves it four times
281 S : háromszor
282 S : négyszer
283 T : one two three four times and and abrakadabra Wilbur has got red head
284 Ss : Wilburnek red piros a feje
285 S : piros a feje
286 T : yes yellow body
287 S : teste
288 S : sárga a teste
289 T : mhm a pink tail
290 Ss : rózsaszín a farka
291 T : Viktor
292 S : rózsaszín
293 T : mhm blue whiskers
294 Ss : kék a bajsza
295 T : bajsza and four purple legs
296 S : lila kék lába
297 T : hát az a sötétbordó színő
298 S : bordó
299 T : a mi?
300 Ss : lába
301 T : lába a négy lába yes but his eyes still green
302 S : de a (xxxx)
303 T : no but his eyes still green Imi
304 S : szeme zöld
305 S : szeme zöld
306 T : de a szeme az még mindig zöld mhm now Winnie can see Wilbur
307 S : Winnie látja Wilburt
308 S : mhm when he sits on a chair
309 S : leül a székre
310 T : mhm when he sits on the floor
311 Ss : leül a padlóra
312 T : when he sits in the garden
313 S : odaül
314 S : kert
315 T : yes it’s ok and even when he climbs to the top of the tree
316 S : fölmegy a fára
317 T : yes amikor felmegy when he climbs ö ı to the top of the ö tree mhm (3.0) yes (10.0)
((chatting)) no we will ö listen the song and (5.0) ((chatting)) after we will sing ı with
the cassette
318 T& : Winnie the witch Winnie the witch Winnie the wonderful witch Wilbut the cat Wilbut
Ss the cat Wilbut the very black cat together they live they live they live they live in a
wonderful house Winnie and Wilbur Wilbut and Winnie Winnie the woderful witch
((teacher sings loudest students quietly))
319 T : once more
Betty Betty
320 T& : Winnie the witch Winnie the witch Winnie the wonderful witch Wilbut the cat Wilbut
Ss the cat Wilbut the very black cat together they live they live they live they live in a
wonderful house Winnie and Wilbur Wilbut and Winnie Winnie the wonderful witch
((teacher sings loudest students quietly))
321 T : no we will listen once more ss sssssss (5.0) ss we will listen once more ı without ö text
(4.0) ssss
322 T& : Winnie the witch Winnie the witch Winnie the wonderful witch Wilbut the cat Wilbut
Ss the cat Wilbut the very black cat together they live they live they live they live in a
wonderful house Winnie and Wilbur Wilbut and Winnie Winnie the wonderful witch
((teacher sings loudest students quietly))
323 T : sajnálom hogy Imi nem énekelt pedig biztos nem láttalak (22.0) no sssss (11.0) no
we will sing this song (2.0) yes thank you no we will sing this song

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324 T& : Winnie the witch Winnie the witch Winnie the wonderful witch Wilbut the cat Wilbut
Ss the cat Wilbut the very black cat together they live they live they live they live in a
wonderful house Winnie and Wilbur Wilbut and Winnie Winnie the wonderful witch
((without music it is not great))
325 T : yes it’s ok once more
326 T& : Winnie the witch Winnie the witch Winnie the wonderful witch ((teacher claps once))
Ss Wilbut the cat Wilbut the cat Wilbut the very black cat together they live they live they
live they live in a wonderful house Winnie and Wilbur Wilbut and Winnie Winnie the
wonderful witch ((without music it is not great))
327 T : no I will Barbara and Piri I will give you the mask Winnie or Wilbur you have to come
and colour yes ((chatting))
328 S : hú ez egy démon (4.0)
329 S : ki kell színezni
330 T : yes you have to cut cut kivágni yes and colour
331 S : Macsek
332 S : Macskát
333 Ss : megkaphatom én én macskát akarok
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Lesson Kati 1

1 T : ok good m
2 S : csoport vigyázz
3 T : János János ok good morning everybody
4 S : good morning teacher
5 T : yes please
6 S : Kati néninek tisztelettel jelentem hogy az osztály létszáma kilenc nem hiányzik
semmi senki ((laughter from pupils))
7 T : neked semmi nem hiányzik nekem hiányzik egy kis napfény that’s right good come
please to your place? mi van?
8 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
9 T : abban volt a házi feladat?
10 S : nem a tankönyvben
11 T : és azt megcsináltad?
12 S : igen
13 T : ok that’s right na let’s see it yes Dóra please
14 S : a munkafüzetben volt a
15 S : ajjaj (xxxx)
16 S : a tizenharmadik oldalon
17 T : tizen^
18 S : ^harmadik
19 T : that’s right good now let’s start it Evelin please
20 S : North North East
21 T : North ((correcting pronunciation)) North East
22 S : North East
23 T : yes East
24 T : yes?
25 S : South East
26 T : South
27 S : South
28 T : East
29 S : South South West West North West
30 T : North West még egyszer Evelin please look at me yes North
31 S : North
32 T : South
33 S : South
34 T : East
35 S : East
36 T : West
37 S : West
38 T : w w ((showing this sound)) West once again North
39 T&S : South East
40 T : West
41 S : West
42 T : yes once again North
43 S : North
44 T : South
45 S : South
46 T&S : East
47 S : West
48 T : West that’s right Móni go on please no
49 S : North
50 T : no read it further
51 S : north ö ezt?
52 T : yes
53 S : Where is Sidney?
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55 S : it’s in the South East of Australia

56 T : Australia South East of Australia yes
57 S : where is Darvin?
58 T : Darvin? ((correcting pronunciation))
59 S : it’s in the North of Austalia
60 T : Australia yes Enik?
61 S : Where is Townhill? In the North East of Australia
62 T : Australia yes next one
63 S : where is Adelade?
64 T : igen
65 S : It’s in the South of Australia
66 T : South of Australia Tamás South East yes
67 S : where is Perth?
68 T : yes
69 S : it’s in South
70 S : Perth
71 T : Perth
72 S : it’s in South West of Australia ((wrong pronunciation))
73 T : Australia that’s right Perth
74 S : Where is Canberra?
75 T : yes Canberra
76 S : Canberra
77 T : it’s
78 S : it’s in the North of Scotland
79 T : in the North of Scotland Scotland?
80 S : Scotland
81 T : Canberra is it in the North of Scotland? Zsoltikám North of milyen ország van ide
nagybetőkkel írva?
82 S : Australia
83 T : Australia North of Australia javítsd ki légyszives az utolsót Laci the last one please
84 S : where is Melburne?
85 T : yes where is
86 S : it’s in the South East of Australia
87 T : South East of Australia
88 S : csak East
89 T : jó rendben East of Australia a következıt szeretném kérdezni tudja-e valaki melyik
a fıvárosa what is the capital city of
90 S : (xxxx xxxx)
91 T : no no
92 S : (xxxx)
93 T : no
94 : Darwin
95 T : no
96 S : Perth
97 S : Camamber
98 T : Camamber Camberra a Camamber that’s right Camberra that’s it Camberra is the
capital city of Australia Camberra hogy hívják?
99 Ss : Camberra
100 T : nem az a legnagyobb városa Sidney és ott volt az olimpia és híres és minden de a
Camberra a capital city yes it’s Camberra that’s fine open your books plese and let’s
see the (3.0) Geography lesson let’s listen to it first yes listen carefully to the
Geography lesson and then complete the information yes Evelin
101 C : ok ok quiet quiet sit down and open your book now your Geography tests from
yesterday oooo ok ok Peter yes question one oh question one is how many countries
are there in Great Britain yeah yes but what’s tha answer? Oh a four is that right?
Karen no it isn’t the answer is three very good Karen right oh Peter what are the three
countries a England Scotland and Wales yes Wales England Scotland and Wales are
the three countries very good Karen ok ok listen now question two how many countries
are there in the United Kingdom? aa Jenny a three? no Jenny not three the answer’s
four now what are the four countries? Aa England yes Scotland aha mm Wales good

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((good joke says the teacher)) and the fourth country is Karen Ireland a no no not quite
all right quiet quiet ok ok listen the the fourth country int he United Kingdom is
Northern Ireland very good ((Northern Ireland says the teacher)) ok so the four
countries int he United Kingdom are England Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland
good now question three how many coun
102 T : do you know how many countries are there in Africa? Africa you don’t know of course
you don’t know I don’t know either that’s right so which are the four countries in the
United kingdom can you tell me Evelin?
103 S : England Scotland Wales
104 T : and
105 S : and North Ireland
106 T : Northern
107 S : North reland
108 T : Norhern
109 S : Northern
110 T&S : Ireland
111 T : that’s right what are the three countries in Great Britain? Móni
112 S : England Scotland and Wales
113 T : England Scotland and Wales that’s right look at the map and please tell me where is
London? it’s in yes in he the
114 S : in the South East
115 T : of
116 S : ? England
117 S : it’s in the South East of England where is aa Brighton? Brighton yes Zsolt where is
Brighton? show itt to me please where is it in your map on your map yes
118 S : is it
119 T : in your map or on your map?
120 S : in the South
121 T : the South of of in the South of England that’s right Tamás where is Camberra? ?
Cardiff?
122 S : it is in
123 T : the
124 S : the South West of England
125 T : England that’s right where is Swanzie? Swanzie
126 S : it’s in the Swanzie is
127 T : is
128 S : int he West of
129 S : Wales
130 T : in the West (xxxx xxxx) magyar
131 S : of Wales
132 T : Wales yes in the South of Wales yes Evelin where is Belfast? Belfast
133 S : Belfast is in
134 T : the^
135 S : the
136 T : in the^
137 S : East
138 S : North
139 S : on the Northern Ireland
140 T : yes in the East of Northern Ireland
141 S : (xxxx xxxx)
142 T : nem csak egyeztettek azért nézd meg mennyi van rajta ott még ott sincs minden
yes on the big map that’s right where is let me see Aberdeen?
143 S : ?
144 T : it’s^
145 S : it’s in the Aberdeen
146 T : is^
147 S : in the North of
148 T : of^
149 S : of the East
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151 S : of Scotland
152 T : Scotland that’s right where is Glasgow? Luca
153 S : it’s in the Glas Glasgow
154 T : Glasgow is^
155 S : Glasgow is Scotland
156 T : in Scotland Scotland here is the border is in the North of Scotland or in the South of
Scotland?
157 S : Souh
158 T : in the South
159 S : of Scotland
160 T : South
161 S : of Wale
162 T : South^
163 S : South West
164 T : of^
165 S : Scotland
166 T : South Wet of Scotland that’s right please tell me where is New Castle?
167 S : New Castle is
168 T : in the^
169 S : in the England
170 T : in England^
171 S : in England North
172 T : North this is North and North North^
173 S : East
174 T : East of England János where is (2.0) Cambridge?
175 S : it’s in the Cambridge
176 T : Cambridge is^
177 S : Cambridge is South of England
178 T : it is South or a little bit South^
179 S : East
180 T : of South East of^
181 S : England
182 T : of England it’s in the South East of England László where is Liverpool?
183 S : amm Liverpool
184 T : is
185 S : is ? North West és London
186 T : of
187 S : of London
188 T : of
189 S : England
190 T : London is a town England is the country North West of Liverpool hát észak-nyugat
nyugat itt van tehát ha egyenesen veszed akkor az
191 S : hát de én a
192 T : it’s North West a little bit yes ok of England yes that’s right can you imagine I do not
have the map of Hungary where is Budapest?
193 S : it’s in the ? North of Hungary
194 T : in the North of Hungary where is Szeged or Pécs?
195 S : South
196 T : yes it’s^
197 S : South
198 T : South of^
199 S : of Hungary
200 ST : in the South of Hungary that’s right where is Sopron?
201 S : in the in the North West of
202 T : of
203 S : of Hungary
204 T : North West West of Hungary yes and where is Makó? Makó or Békéscsaba?
205 S : it’ in the
206 T : the^
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208 T : South^
209 S : West of
210 T : nem East East
211 S : South
212 T : South Est of of
213 S : Hungary
214 T : Hungary that’s right good aa úgy válaszolj nekem hogy melyik országban van where
is London?
215 S : England
216 T : It’ in England
217 S : England
218 T : come to the blackboard and write please open your exercise book and write yes write
please ? London is in England write it on the blackboard London is is in England mi
volt ez ja London is in England that’s right London is in England where is Edinburgh?
(2.0) Edinburgh
219 S : is in Scotland
220 T : Edinburgh is in Scotland go and write please füzetbe írjad szótárba Edinburgh is in
Scotland (4.0) is in Scotland (5.0) Edinburgh ((teacher trying to show spelling in
Hungarian)) Edinburgh is in Scotland (8.0) yes csak egy ember megy jó? (3.0) that’s
right lesson?
221 S : kilencvenhat
222 T : ninety-six Edinburgh is in Scotland where is Brighton? Is it in the South or is it in the
North? Enik? in the South or in the North?
223 S : the South
224 T : in the South Brighton is in the South of England come please in the South Brighton is
in the South Brighton is (2.0) i-vel írod Brighton is gh is in the South (xxxx xxxx) is in
the South (7.0) ((pupil writing the sentence on the board)) yes in the South jól van
thank you very much where is the ? your book? is it on the table or under the table? the
book is^
225 S : the book
226 T : is^
227 S : is on the table
228 T : on the table come Vivien and write the book is on the table here please the book is on
the table (10.0) ((writing on board)) the book is on the table where is your pencil-box?
it’s^ (2.0) where is it? it’s on the^
229 S : table
230 T : table vagy on the hogy mondod ezt desk the pencil-box is on the desk go János and
write the pencil-box is on the desk (4.0) the pencil-box kötıjellel írod the pencil-box
pencil-box (5.0) de box is on the desk desk that’s right ok egészen jól írtok egészen
megdícsérlek benneteket hogy alig van benne hiba mondjuk a persze hogy a
Brighton-t megnéztem meg az Edinburgh-ot nehéz leírni Edinburgh a földrajzi
neveket ezért is gyakoroljuk ıket de ügyesek vagytok where are you now? are you
at home or at school? are you at home or at school? are you at home or at school?
231 S : em I at
232 T : are you
233 S : am
234 T : you
235 S : you are at school
236 T : I’m at
237 S : I’m at
238 T : at school
239 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
240 T : yes my question was László are you at school?
241 S : I
242 T : I
243 S : am
244 T : am
245 S : at school
246 T : at school come please hát közösen sikerült it’s ö I am at school vagy ö we are at
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247 S : (xxxx?)
248 T : nem írd ki I am (4.0) at (2.0) school (5.0) yes ö hagyd ıt majd boldogul I am at
school that’s right and who is at home now? Is anybody at home Evelin? ö in your
family from your family at home your mo is your mother at home?
249 S : no
250 T : otthon van anyukád?
251 S : yes no
252 T : is your mother at home?
253 S : no
254 T : no she isn’t at home my mother isn’t at home is your mother at home?
255 S : no she isn’t
256 T : is your mother at home?
257 S : no she isn’t
258 T : is your mother at home?
259 S : no she isn’t
260 T : is your mother at home?
261 S : no she isn’t
262 T : and your
263 S : no she isn’t
264 T : and your
265 S : no she isn’t
266 T : my mother isn’t at home Luca come and write my mother isn’t at mi az a Móni?
267 S : (xxxx xxxx)
268 T : anyukádnak a neve? Mónika? és mondtad hogy Móni? ((laughter)) yes my mother
odafent kezdheted jó mindegy ahol van helyed my mother (2.0) mother isn’t isn’t
(2.0) at (1.0) home (2.0) mother döntsük el hogy az ó vagy á?
269 S : mm ez ó akar lenni
270 T : akkor jó yes my mother isn’t at home and go to your place thank you you know in
English there are some prepositions on the table pencil-box is on the desk is in England
in the South in Scotland yes ban ben nem mindig egyezik meg a magyar magyarul
vannak elöljárók? nincsenek hova tesszük mi azt hogy Skóciá^
271 Ss : ^ban
272 T : ^ban a végére ragnak tesszük azért nem mindig egyeznek meg ezek erre negyon
kell vigyázni at home at school yes és magyarul hogy mondod I am at school? Hogy
fordítod ezt le?
273 S : iskolában vagyok
274 T : ^ban vagyok tehát vigyázzatok mert nem in-t tehát I am at school yes nagyon
vigyázzatok ezekre meg hát kell tanulni olvassuk el közösen ıket the book is on the
table
275 Ss : the book is on the table
276 T : in Hungarian magyarul
277 Ss : aa
278 T : a^
279 Ss : a könyv az asztalon van
280 T : megegyezik az on és az asztalon?
281 Ss : igen igen
282 T : igen kivételesen megegyezik tehát the pencil-box is on the desk that’s everybody
283 Ss : (xxxx)
284 T : the pencil-box^
285 Ss : the pecil-box
286 T& : is on the desk
Ss
287 Ss : (xxxx)
288 T : yes
289 Ss : a padon van
290 T : a padon van ugye on rajta megegyezik ö mm mindenki az angol mondatot Laci
nem beszélsz London is in England everybody
291 Ss : London is in England
292 T : in England London
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294 T : angol ország ((smile))

295 Ss : (xxxx) Anglia
296 T : Angliában van megegyezik?
297 Ss : nem
298 T : ^ban in ^ban
299 Ss : (((xxxx xxxx)
300 T : megegyezik ugyan az in az ^ban ^ben azt jelenti Edinburgh is in Scotland mindenki
301 Ss : Edinburgh is in Scotland
302 T : mit jelent?
303 Ss : Edinburgh Skóciában van
304 T : yes egyezik?
305 Ss. : igen igen
306 T : that’t right Brighton is in the South
307 Ss : Brighton is in the South
308 T : Brighton (1.0) hol van?
309 Ss : (xxxx) délen (xxxx)
310 T : délen van ö legyetek
311 Ss : (xxxx)
312 T : igen délen van tehát nem egyezik meg ö London az I am at akkor ezt már mondtuk
hogy mondtad Laci magyarra? én iskolában vagyok angolul is mondjad
313 S I am
314 T : I am at school
315 S at school
317 T : tehát csengjen ez a füledbe mindenki I am I am at school mégegyszer
318 Ss : I am at school
319 T : that’s right my mother isn’t at home
320 Ss : ezt különválasztjuk ugye
321 T : ide leírom mégegyszer ((writing it on the board)) (xxxx) isn’t
322 S : az én anyukám otthon
323 T : nincs otthon
324 S : nincs otthon
325 T : at home
326 S : otthon
327 T : hogy mondod? at home otthon
328 Ss : yes my mother isn’t at home mindenki
329 T : my mother isn’t at home édesanyám nincs otthon
330 Ss : yes
331 T : tehát az elöljárókra nagyon kell vigyázni az angolban nagyon fontos szerepük van
olyan mint a ragok a magyar nyelvben de nem mindig egyezik meg például azt
mondom hogy the bus is in the street bár hallottam on the street-et is nagyon
sokszor in the street a helyes (xxxx) és hogy mondod a busz az
332 S : (xxxx xxxx)
333 T : az az hol van?
334 Ss : in the street
335 T : mi az a út út street út utca
336 Ss : utcán utcán van
337 T : yes in the street in the sky in the picture what can you see in the picture?
338 Ss : (xxxx)
339 T : ((teacher pointing at the picture on the wall)) Mit látsz a falon in the picture ott
340 Ss : in the picture
341 T : a képen mit látsz a képen a képen
342 Ss : in the sky the plane is in the sky
343 T : a repülıgép a az égen van yes ((writing on the board)) tehát az in ı kifejezés nem
mindig egyezik a magyar nyelvvel nagyon kell erre vigyázni jó hogy mondod azt
hogy ö illetve what is this? it is a pen what are these? these are pens
344 Ss : these are pens
345 T : írjad fel nekem hogy these are pens
346 Ss : Tamás come these are pens (1.0) yes this is a pen
347 T : az pedig hogy van? Hogy írod? Gyere gyere Reni oda a kis táblára légy szíves
Tamás (2.0) this is a pen yes these are pens these are pens jól van ügyes vagy this is a

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pen ((dictating)) (1.0) this is a pen és akkor kérdezem hogy what is that? ((pointing at
)) Zsolt what is that what is that mi az Enikınél az a tarka meg zöld? What is that?
(1.0) tolltartó a zöld that is a (2.0) tolltartó Zsolt veled beszélek mindenki beszél
csak Zsolt nem that is a that is a pencil case Yes ide írod az egé
348 S : (xxxx)
T : az eszed és a kezed is mozogjon
that is a pencil-box és what are those Lia?
Those are^ those are^
349 posters
350 S : posters
351 T : gyere Luca Those are pictures posters mindegy (2.0) pencil-box ügyesen írtad úgy
egy ((smile)) Zsolt Zsolt olvasd el pencil
352 S : pencil
353 T : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
354 Ss : Tamás ö
355 T : próbáld leállítani magad jó? szóval? javítod ugye? ı Luca gyere ide ha itt állunk
fordulj meg és akkor az itt van mellettünk vagy távolabb van? távolabb
356 S : és akkor these-t kell írni?
357 T : nem
358 S : de ((another student))
359 S : de
360 S : nem?
361 T : de ez egyes számban van hogy van többes számban a these? these
362 S : nem those
363 T : ó-val írod úgy those are pictures jó és akkor gyere vissza még egyszerLuca ezt hogy
írjuk? there
364 S : there there ı
365 T : ez milyen bető benne ı (xxxx)
366 S : igen
367 T : és hogy kell írni? that that
368 S : de azt hogy kell írni?
369 T : (xxxx)
370 S : a betővel
371 S : javítsd ki légy szíves there is a pencil-box és itt hiányzik egy n bető még a yes
pencil-box that’s right tehát tehát figyeljetek a that-nek a többes száma a those
figyelj ó-val írod? Luca és a these-nek a this-nek a többes száma a these ((writing
on the board)) yes these belehúztam a vonalat these yes (2.0) no akkor ezeket a
szavakat kell nekem kiegészítenetek ide (xxxx)
372 T : tessék beleírni
373 S : this that those or these ((teacher is giving out photocopied exercises)) (3.0) Laci neked
nem jutott? (xxxx)
374 T : várjál várjál
375 S : mert ennyi van ahányan vagytok úgyhogy valahova elkavartam (2.0) nem lehet
(xxxx xxxx?)
376 T : de lehet
377 S : (4.0) de nem lehet ((teacher is trying to find one missing paper)) (9.0) Kati néni ez a
kettı (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx) (10.0)
378 T : ((giving the book to the student to work from))
379 T : Laci ceruzával dolgozol direkt a könyvben mert nem találom a kilencediket pedig
biztosan megvolt (xxxx) nézd meg hányadik oldal? nálad van?
380 S : (xxxx)
381 T : nálad van?
382 S : (xxxx)
383 T : odaadtam neked?
384 S : (xxxx)
385 T : nem az
386 S : ötvenharmadik oldal
387 T : nem nem
388 Ss : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
389 T : tessék biztos hogy kilencet majd elıkerül? ide ceruzával írjál bele mert ki akarom

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radírozni csak halványan csak hogy neked is legyen Laci

390 S : (xxxx xxxx?)
391 T : jó ha vékonyan ír akkor igen yes please (14.0)
392 S : (xxxx)
393 T : kész vagy? nem még még Laci hátrányos helyzetben van mert késıbb kapta meg a
lapját (3.0) igen (6.0) csak ezt a négy szót kell behelyettesíteni nem kell írni hogy is
meg isn’t Vivien (6.0) ready? kész vagy? (8.0) Charles Károly (4.0) yes are you
ready? ((teacher going round checking))
394 S : (xxxx)
395 T : igen?
396 S : (xxxx xxxx?)
397 T : oda van írva shoes neked csak egy van neki kettı van (5.0) igen ((whispering))
mondjuk miért nem (2.0) a kezükben van egy csomó minden
398 S : (xxxx)
399 T : (xxxx) hogy kérdezed meg?
400 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
401 T : hát meglátjuk (34.0) yes the question? yes?
402 S : (xxxx xxxx)
403 T : this is Charles yes this is Charles
404 S : this is Do Dorin
405 T : this is Dorin?
406 S : Dorin
407 T : Dorin this is nem this hanem
408 S : that
409 T : that is az ott that is Doris Evelin nézd csak mikor m távolra mutatsz messzebb van
tıled akkor ezt a szót használod that that is Doris (2.0) yes következıt
410 S : who are those people?
411 T : who are those people? kik azok az emberek? those people yes those who are those
people Enik?
412 S : this sandwich (xxxx xxxx)
413 T : this sandwich egy van?
414 S : kettı
415 T : és akkor this? nem ezt használjuk? ((pointing at the right word on the board))
416 S : azt írtam
417 T : ja de nem azt mondtad these these sandwiches are delicious János
418 S : what is that? ((students are reading the completed sentences. This is an excellent
example how much extra knowledge the students need to follow the discourse. What is
that? is the completed sentence the teacher translates it and then nominates Tamás. He
is not supposed to answer the question what is that? an aquarium with fish in it, but to
read the next completed sentence))
419 T : what is that? mi az? Tamás
420 Ss : (most ez melyik?)
421 T : várjatok mert meg megnézem what is that?
422 S : (xxxx)
423 T : that persze mert ott van mi az ami ott van a akváriumban? Egy cápa mi van mi az
ott? what is that? következıt tehát
424 S : are you shoes new?
425 T : are ezek these nem you’re and nem you semmiképpen javítsd ki are these shoes
new? Yes következıt Zsolt
426 S : are those your coats?
427 T : are those (2.0) are (4.0) are these ez is these ezek a te kabátaid? are these mutatom
neked your coat jó are these your coat és az utolsó
428 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
429 T : that isn’t^
430 S : my
431 T : az ott nem az enyém that isn’t my coat kijavította mindenki?
432 S : (xxxx)
433 T : igen? jó akkor kaptok még egy lapot amiben a házi feladatotok is benne lesz
434 S : sok
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hoztam (2.0) yes (2.0) tessék ((teacher is giving out photocopies exercised))
mindenkinek jutott?
436 S : (xxxx) ((student is giving back the book))
437 T : jó köszönöm szépen majd ezt kiradírozzuk megkeresem én a lapodat mert
megvan biztosan fénymásoltam kilenc darabot belıle no ı és hogyha ö megnézitek
(9.0)
438 S : (xxxx)
439 T : yes ö mindjárt a képekkel is boldogulunk (2.0) tehát az elsı feladatod az a b
olvasd fel Zsolt hogy mit kell tenni vele (2.0)
440 S : (xxxx xxxx) használd a there is there are
441 T : szerkezetet az elsı a példamondat em there is a book on the table there are three
windows ((stressing the sound s)) tagadva
442 S : there aren’t
443 T : aren’t
444 S : aren’t three windows
445 T : mondd a kettı a kettest
446 S : there aren’t
447 T : two
448 S : two beds
449 T : there aren’t two beds írjátok there aren’t two beds Vivien hármas
450 S : there aren’t (xxxx) chairs
451 T : igen
452 S : em
453 T : there no ennek mintájára
454 S : (xxxx)
455 T : mondjad Vivien
456 S : there isn’t an
457 T : a dog
458 S : there isn’t a dog on the chair
459 T : semmit ne változtass csak tagadjad az igét there isn’t a dog on the chair yes
460 S : there is a can on the bed there is ö there isn’t a cat on the bed
461 T : there isn’t a cat on the black on the bed (4.0) yes Móni
462 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx) there are aren’t two magazines
463 T : there aren’t two magazines mi az a magazine? what is a maga^
464 S : (xxxx)?
465 T : képesújság igaz (5.0) Laci
466 S : there (2.0) are ö pencil-cases ö there aren’t pencil-cases
467 T : there aren’t pencil-cases (4.0) there aren’t pencil-cases János
468 S : there is one TV ((Hungarian pronunciation))
469 T : TV there isn’t ö one
470 S : there isn’t ö one TV
471 T : there isn’t one TV (3.0) yes
472 S : there is a computer on the desk there isn’t a computer on the desk
473 T : there isn’t a computer on the desk (10.0) yes Enik?
474 S : there are five pictures there aren’t five pictures
475 T : mégegyszer
476 S : there aren’t five pictures
477 T : that’s right once again
478 S : there aren’t five pictures
479 T : there aren’t five pictures (3.0) yes
480 S : there aren’t two chairs
481 T : yes there aren’t two chairs (4.0) a c lesz a házi feladatotok ((reading the task))
egészítsd ki az alábbi Londonnal kapcsolatos kérdéseket használd a there is there
are szerkezet megfelelı alak kérdıalakját is there a big park kérdezzed Vivien
Evelint? az osztályban hogy mit talál is there a (2.0) rám nézel az osztályban is
there a^
482 S : is there a ö ö (xxxx)
483 T : egy tárgyat is there a^
484 S : TV
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486 S : yes
487 T : there is ö Luca kérdezz valakit ask somebody is there are there is there
488 S : is there ö (xxxx)
489 T : akkor are there pictures
490 S : are there pictures
491 T : in the classroom
492 S : yes ?
493 T : are vagy is vagy isn’t vagy aren’t? that is the question
494 S : ö
495 T : yes there (1.0) pictures
496 S : are
497 T : yes there are yes Móni ask ((wrong word)) somebody kérdezz valakit
498 S : is are there ö pictures in the class?
499 T : (xxxx)
500 S : yes there are
501 T : yes there are ask somebody else aki nem volt még kérdezzed
502 Ss : engem engem
503 S : İ ı there
504 T : így nem are-ral vagy is-zel kezded ugye
505 S : are there (2.0) na
506 T : are there ö is there a map?
507 S : (xxxx)
508 T : is there a map in the classroom or are there maps in the classrom? Válassz melyiket
kérdezed
509 S : maps
510 T : are
511 S : are there maps?
512 T : in the classroom
513 S : no there aren’t
514 T : no there aren’t? one two yes there are two maps kérdezz tovább akkor de olyat aki
nem volt még Evelin
515 S : there are
516 T : are there
517 S : are there? desks
518 T : desks
519 S : desks
520 S : yes there are
521 T : there are ten desks kérdezz tovább Zsoltot vagy Jánost mert ık még nem voltak
522 S : there are
523 S : (xxxx)
524 T : nem ık akik még soha nem voltak
525 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
526 T : yes there are kérdezz tovább
527 S : are there? black bird
528 T : board black bird ((smile)) black board yes there
529 S : there
530 T : yes there (1.0) are mondjad yes yes
531 S : yes
532 T : there are one? two
533 S : yes there are
534 T : yes there are that’s right inned folytatjuk következı órán bye bye
535 Ss : good bye bye bye teacher (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
536 T : ja jó hétvégét tényleg jó hétvégét
537 Ss : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
538 T : hát nem találkozunk
539 S : (xxxx)
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Lesson Kati 2

1 T : (xxxx xxxx)
2 S : ((whispering something))
3 T : igen jó kint hallgatja Skóciában a Kriszta néni (2.0) yes good what was your lesson
Enikı for today
4 S : ö
5 T : István
6 S : a xxxx-re kérdéseket kellett írni és válaszolni
7 T : jó what is your first question
8 S : is she a good girl yes she is
9 T : is she a good girl? ez volt a kérdés?
10 S : is there a good girl
11 T : yes
12 S : yes she is
13 T : jól van Móni (xxxx) one
14 S : is she from? no
15 T : is she from (2.0) hová való is she from (3.0) mit tennénk a kérdés végére? is she
from
16 S : (xxxx)
17 T : Budapest Greece Peti egészítsd ki zölddel légy szíves javítsd ki nagyon csúnyán
írtad Móni kérlek szebben írjál is she from Greece (2.0) mi a válaszod Móni? what
is your answer
18 S : no it
19 T : nem it hanem
20 S : no it not
21 T : mivel kérdeztünk? figyeljetek csak egy picit is
22 S : she
23 T : she ((emphasizes she)) is from Greece
24 S : no she isn’t
25 T : she ((emphasises she)) isn’t ez a helyes yes Luca
26 S : is she at home ((corrects the pronunciation)) home? no she isn’t
27 T : is she at home? no she isn’t Vivien
28 S : are father and mother at home?
29 T : are father and mother at home?
30 S : yes they are
31 T : yes they are ügyes vagy
32 S : (xxxx xxxxx)
33 T : melyik a mondat?
34 S : I am her (xxxx)
35 T : I am here
36 S : you are (xxxx)
37 T : I am her friend and hogy mondod? I am her mi az a her?
38 S : ?
39 T : övé friend
40 S : (xxxx)
41 T : mi a friend szó? tessék Tamás friend my friend is your friend and your friend is my
friend ((singing the words)) hogy van ez?
42 S : barát
43 T : barát én az ı barátja vagyok hogyan kérdezel erre a mondatra ı lássuk hogyan
kérdezel rá tehát I am her friend én az ı barátja vagyok hogy mondod? magyarul
hogy kérdezel rá? hogy kérdezel rá?
44 S : her friend?
45 T : hát igen
46 S : am I?
47 T : am I? jó kinek a (1.0) kinek a barátja am I
48 S : her friend
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50 S : (xxxx)
51 T : her friend (2.0) tehát hogy van Evelin?
52 S : am I her friend?
53 T : így van am I her friend a barátja vagy (2.0) Evelin (3.0) am I her yes I am János
54 S : is she at school now?
55 T : is she at school now?
56 S : yes she is
57 T : yes she is Tamás
58 S : is my English book is on the table?
59 T : még egyszer helyesen hogy is van ez? is my
60 S : my English book is on the
61 T : még egyszer nem kell két is miért kell két is? is my English book on ((emphasises on
)) the table? no
62 S : no it isn’t
63 T : no it isn’t tessék
64 S : (xxxx xxxx)
65 T : és nem csináltál megint házi feladatot Zsolti hát ez szörnyő (3.0) beírom az
üzenıdbe, hogy megint nincs házi feladatod itt az üzenıd? itt az ellenırzıd ı (3.0)
van valami itt nálad? (3.0) nincs semmi
66 S : (xxxx xxxxx xxxxx)
67 T : hát nagyon örülök akkor legalább az üzenıjét hozta volna (2.0) és a napló ı(3.0)
az sincs itt abba fogom beírni jó no ö m (2.0) áthozhatod a naplót menjél Tamás
yes következıt László ennyi volt ez volt az még van egy nem?
68 S : (xxxx xxxx )
69 T : now ez most volt volt is she at school now?
70 Ss : (xxxx xxxx) nem azt én mondtam
71 T : az már volt (2.0) she isn’t at home isn’t is she at home vagy isn’t she at home
rendben van open your books please
72 Ss : ((sounds of opening books children are coughing )) (10.0)
73 C : ((without any instruction the cassette starts ))I am from Natio in Greece. I am sixteen
years old
74 T : bocsánat (4.0) elbeszéltük itt és nem állítottam be a kazettát ((the teacher is
searching on the cassette)) (12.0) hát sajnálom elnézést kérek ((searching)) (7.0) no
75 C : door
76 T : ez az csak az elejérıl ((searching)) (6.0)
77 C : music
78 T : tehát in the classroom mit is jelent Enikı? in the classroom
79 S : az osztályban
80 T : az osztályban lássuk itt vannak tárgyak a képen mi az amit mi látunk itt az
osztályban? what are the things in the classroom the objects the things Móni
81 S : blackboard
82 T : blackboard
83 S : lights
84 T : lights
85 S : Tv
86 T : Tv
87 S. : windows
88 T : windows how many windows are there? hány ablakunk van? how many? Egy nagy
ablak két nagy ablak hármas ablak de kettı van two windows mondjad
89 S : two windows
90 T : igen
91 S : a door
92 T : a door
93 S : (xxxx xxxx)
94 T : okay tessék
95 S : chair
96 T : chair László
97 S : desk
98 T : desk mit jelent?
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100 T : mi az igen pad Enikı

101 S : radio
102 T : radio (xxxx)
103 S : pen
104 T : pen mi az a pen?
105 S : toll
106 T : igen Evelin
107 S : ruler
108 T : ruler
109 S : map on the wall
110 T : map on the wall
111 S : door
112 T : door azt már mondtuk László
113 S : wall
114 T : wall yes that’s right hallgassuk meg hogy mi mindent mondanak ismételd a kiejtés
nagyon fontos pronounced the word (xxxx) the word the words
115 C : (xxxx) 2 item 7 listen and repeat chair
116 T& : chair
Ss
117 C : table
118 T& : table
Ss
119 C : black
120 T& : black
Ss
121 C : book
122 T& : book
Ss
123 C : pen
124 T& : pen
Ss
125 C : ruler
126 T& : ruler
Ss
127 C : blackboard
128 T& : blackboard
Ss
129 C : door
130 T& : door
Ss
131 C : wall
132 T& : wall
Ss
133 C : map
134 T& : map
Ss
135 C : window
136 T& : window
Ss
137 C : light
138 T& : light
Ss
139 C : (music)
140 T : no nézzétek meg ezeket a képeket és alattuk lévı mondatokat there is a blackboard
in the classroom mit is jelent ez a there is? azt jelenti hogy van igen van
141 S : van egy fekete tábla
142 T : van létezik található egy tábla a
143 S : teremben
144 T : a teremben igen a teremben van létezik található többes számban úgy mondjuk
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145 T& : are ((the teacher emphasises: are))

Ss
146 T : there are az is és are igéket there are chairs there are four chairs in the classroom na
olvassátok velem együtt ezt a kettes feladatot there is a blackboard in the classroom
mondjad
147 Ss : there is a blackboard in the classroom
148 T : there isn’t ((emphasises isn’t)) a computer on the table
149 Ss : there isn’t a computer on the table
150 T : there are four chairs
151 Ss : there are four chairs
152 T : there aren’t three doors ((emphasises aren’t)) ))
153 Ss : there aren’t three doors
154 T : meghallgatjuk ismételd a magnóval is
155 C : (xxxx) item 8 listen: there is a blackboard in the classroom
156 Ss : there is a blackboard in the classroom
157 C : there is a computer on the table
158 Ss : there is a computer on the table
159 C : there are four chairs
160 Ss : there are four chairs
161 C : there aren’t three doors
162 Ss : there aren’t three doors
163 C : now listen and repeat
164 T : ismételd még egyszer
165 C : there is a blackboard in the classroom
166 Ss : there is a blackboard in the classroom
167 C : there is a computer on the table
168 Ss : there is a computer on the table
169 C : there are four chairs
170 Ss : there are four chairs
171 C : there aren’t three doors
172 Ss. : there aren’t theree doors
173 C : music
174 T : következı feladatotok hogy megállapítsátok hogy true or false mi az a true? what is
true
175 S : igaz
176 T : igaz és a false
177 S : hamis
178 T : hamisak-e a következı mondatok olvasd fel Vivien a példamondatot és a választ
rá example please and the answer
179 S : there is lamp there is a lamp in the classroom (5.0) true
180 T : true tehát melyik képet nézzük az alsó kettı közül a fölsı képet igen ı jó ı Móni
181 S : there is a girl in the clasroom it’s ö false
182 T : false egy f betőt írsz mellé Luca
183 S : there is a window (4.0) true
184 T : hááát egy ablak van ı nézd csak meg azt a képet
185 S : false
186 T : false pontosan (3.0) Enikı
187 S : there’re two doors (2.0) false
188 T : false (2.0) Laci
189 S : there isn’t a women (2.0)
190 T : igaz vagy hamis ı
191 S : true
192 T : true? nincs mi az a women?
193 S : nı
194 T : nı nincs egy nincs nı az osztályteremben van? (2.0) hamis?
195 S : nem ez igaz
196 T : ez igaz egy férfi van a teremben nézd meg a képet look at the picture nézd meg a
képet look at the picture there isn’t a women in the classroom there isn’t a women in
the classroom ((emphasises isn’t)) yes következıt Evelin
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198 T : there aren’t two tables nincsen két asztal Evelin szerinted ez hamis vagy igaz? true
or false?
199 S : false
200 T : false jó János
201 S : there aren’t four chairs
202 T : there aren’t four chairs
203 S : true
204 T : true nincsen négy szék yes
205 S : de van ott szék
206 T : azon a képen amit nézünk nincsen
207 S : fölsı képen
208 T : fölsı képet nézzük és azon csak kettı szék van és kettı asztal (4.0) látod kettı
közül a look at one picture ask and answer nézzünk egyet a képek közül most
nézzétek a fodított képet is there? no Zsolt próbálj meg kérdezni is there?
209 S : is there a map? (3.0)
210 T : a map a map in the classroom
211 S : classroom
212 T : na ki válaszoljon neked hogy van-e térkép az osztályban yes there is or no there
isn’t ki válaszoljon Zsolt?
213 S : Laci
214 T : Laci
215 S : yes there is
216 T : yes there is látod a fordított képet nézzük a harmadikat ezen a lapon mindenki azt
nézi?
217 S : igen
218 T : look at the third picture picture number three yes Móni
219 S : are there light
220 T : are there akkor nem a light–ra kérdezünk hanem?
221 S : lights
222 T : úgy van ügyes vagy are thre lights in your picture? vannak-e lámpák a képeden?
Evelin yes nézd csak meg a választ mert oda van írva (2.0) a második kérdés
válasza közül válaszd a helyeset yes they are vagy no they aren’t melyik a
223 S : yes they are
224 T : yes they are mást kérdezz Luca
225 S : is there floor (xxxx)
226 T : a floor padló vagy virágra gondolsz?
227 S : floor
228 T : floor padlóra tessék flower azt hittem hogy a virágot
229 S : (xxxx)
230 T : no it isn’t hát van padló vagy padlószınyeg vagy mi az a rózsaszín yes it is jó
Vivien kérdez és János válaszol
231 S : (xxxx)
232 T : vagy az is there–rel kezded vagy az are there-rel de ha
233 S : are there door
234 T : are there?
235 S : are there? (2.0)
236 T : are there? egy tárgyat tárgyakat mondjál mert többes számban kérdez are there
237 S : are there
238 T : válassz ki valamit Vivien
239 S : table
240 T : de nem lehet table mert are-ral kérdeztél vannak-e
241 S : are there (2.0) tables?
242 T : igen Tamás csak nem szólsz közbe tables helyesen mondta csak rendetlen volt are
thre tables
243 S : tables
244 T : in the
245 S : in the
246 T : picture na szólíts valakit hogy válaszoljon neked (2.0) Móni (3.0) are thre tables in
the picture?
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248 T : yes there are szerintetek miért rossz ez a kérdés

249 S : (xxxx)
250 T : ja nem asztalokat kérdeztél ugye asztalokat kér jó volt a kérdésed igen igen Evelin
kérdezzél
251 S : is there a blackboard in your picture?
252 T : is there a blackboard in your picture? kit szólítasz?
253 S : Luca
254 T : ask Luca
255 S : there
256 T : there (3.0) is–zel kérdezett
257 S : yes there is
258 T : yes there is tessék
259 S : (xxxx xxxx) ki lehet jelenteni?
260 T : hát ki lehet jelenteni de ha kérdeznek akkor nem azt mondod hogy true hanem
kérdezik hogy van egy szék az asz
261 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
262 T : persze
263 S : is there a blackboard blackboard on the floor
264 T : oh ye Tamás is there a blackboard on the floor? yes there is nem azt kell válaszolni
yes there is tehát nem ö nem Enikınek mondtam mikor válaszolunk hogy
megkérdezik hogy van-e szék az osztályban hamis hát ez nem válasz akkor erre
válaszo írjuk ezt le elıször a szótárba a there is there are utána a füzetet nyitjátok
ki open your vocabulary first tehát a there is ((she writes on the blackboard)) van (3.0 )
létezik (4.0) található (5.0) a there are pedig mit is mondtunk ki tudja?
265 S : vannak
266 T : igen vannak ((plane sounds from outside)) hu de alacsonyan jött ez a repülı
léteznek (3.0) és találhatóak ((she writes on the blackboard)) (7.0) hogy is tagadjuk
ezeket?
267 S : no there aren’t
268 T : there isn’t és there aren’t tehát a tagadást aláírom there isn’t ((writes on the
blackboard)) (3.0) és there aren’t? hogyan kérdeztem ezekkel úgy hogy mindig az
igét eléteszem are there? is there? yes? (4.0) ezt a szótárba a kis tábla tudjátok
mindig a szótáré there is there are (5.0) leírtátok? are you ready? no akkor a füzetbe
tehát fölírod címnek azt hogy there is there are ez ilyen nagyon angolos
mondatkezdés e nélkül is el tudnám képzelni a mondatot de ez a there is there are
így sokkal angolosabb például mondjatok egy példát there is a mi van a mi
osztálytermünkben?
269 S. there
270 T : there is a
271 S : blackboard
272 T : blackboard jól van Evelin there is a blackboard in our classroom in the classroom
hogy ne komplikáljuk még az our-ral there is írja mindenki velem együtt there is a
(2.0) blackboard ((she is writing on the blackboard)) (5.0) in the classroom (6.0) jó
hogyan tagadod? nincs is táblánk tagadjuk le
273 S : (xxxx)
274 T : tessék?
275 S : there isn’t blackboard in
276 T : there isn’t a blackboard in the classroom there isn’t is not vagy röviden isn’t a
blackboard (6.0) in the classroom ((she is writing on the blackboard )) (4.0) Zsolt te
hova írod?
277 S : füzetbe
278 T : füzetbe? És akkor hogy nincs házi feladatod vagy hogy van ez?
279 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
280 T : dehogyis ide van leírva neki a múlt órai mondatok csak nincs kész fekete pontot
írjál be neki (2.0) ki írja ki jegyzi a házit? Móni
281 S : (xxxx xxxx)
282 T : jó majd ha leírtuk ezt jó? tehát there isn’t a blackboard hogyan is kérdezünk erre?
nézzétek meg tehát azt mondom hogy a kifejezés there is vagy there is not ugye
röviden ez az isn’t (2.0) nagyon fontos hogy ezt tudjuk hogy kérdezünk rá? van-e
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283 S : (xxxx)
284 T : mindig jár a szád kérdezetlenül na mondd akkor (1.0) még egyszer
285 S : is there
286 T : is there a fejezd is be
287 S : is there a blackboard in the classroom?
288 T : úgy hogy volt Móni?
289 S : is there a blackboard in the classroom?
290 T : okay írjuk tehát az is–zel kezdjük (2.0) there a blackboard ((she is writing on the
blackboard)) (5.0) in the classroom? (5.0) és kérdıjel van a végén szinessel írjátok
hogy tudjuk hogy a kérdésnél megfordítjuk ugye? is there a blackboard in the
classroom na ki válaszol erre? (2.0) röviden
291 S : yes there is
292 T : yes there is ((writes on the blackboard)) (4.0) jó a többes számú kifejezés hogy van?
(3.0) there
293 Ss : are
294 T : are valami mi van az osztályunkban?
295 S : (xxxx)
296 T : ha are akkor több tárgy
297 S : lights
298 T : lights there are lights in the classroom ((writes on the blackboard)) yes után mindig
vesszı van there are lights (4.0) in the classroom már unom ezt a classroom in the
room a szobában is vannak lámpák tehát there are figyelj rám egy picit there are
utána mindig többes számú fınevet használok nézd meg kiemeltem az s–t tehát
there are lights hogy mondod? there are
299 T& : lights
Ss
300 T : there aren’t lights tagadás ((writes on the blackboard)) there aren’t (2.0) lights vagy
are not (3.0) lights (3.0) in the room (4.0) in the room there aren’t vagy are not lights in
the room hogyan kérdezek rá? mondjad
301 S : are there lights in the classroom?
302 T : are there lights in the classroom? ide fölülre írom hogy egybe meglegyen az egész
tehát ((writes on the blackboard and saying what she writes)) tehát there aren’t (2.0)
vagy are (3.0) are there (2.0) lights (3.0) in the room? (4.0) are there lights in the
room? ki válaszol rá? nem Tamás János
303 S : no there aren’t lights
304 T : in the room no there aren’t legyen no what there aren’t (2.0) rövid válasz no there
aren’t tehát nagyon vigyáztok ha are van akkor lights chairs desks pens
((emphasise)) és így tovább yes? (21.0) ö a házi feladatotok is ezzel kapcsolatos lesz
a vocabulary a munkafüzetnek a tizenkettedik oldalán ahol ezt fogjátok gyakorolni
there are there is are there is there tizenkettedik oldal (4.0) tehát a munkafüzet
workbook page ((writes on the blackboard)) ez a házi feladat (8.0) no még amivel
adósotok vagyok az elızı oldalon ugye vettük a nagybetős szavakat ismételjük át
mit is írunk nagy betővel az angol nyelvben ı Eszter
305 S : név
306 T : név yes
307 S : (xxxx) I
308 T : neveket ja hogy I én mondat közepén is nagy betővel írjuk
309 S : months of the year
310 T : hogy months of the year hónapokat
311 S : (xxxx)
312 T : (xxxx) még mit írunk nagy betővel ı
313 S : days of the week
314 T : days of the week
315 S : countries
316 T : hát igen földrajzi neveket countries and geographical names
317 S : days of the week
318 T : days of the week that’s right mondtuk már
319 S : personal pronoun
320 T : personal pronoun de csak melyiket? melyiket? (2.0) melyiket? personal pronoun
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321 S : I
322 T : I csak azt hogy én az angolok magukat tisztelik meg miért?
323 S : I don’t know
324 T : I don’t know ((she is laughing)) de az ént azt nagy betővel írják az I mondat
közepén is nagy betővel van jó ö a következı kérem szépen egy néhány képet
találtok itt ahol this that és these those szavakat kell behelyettesíteni mit is jelent ez
a this? Vivien
325 S : (xxxx)
326 T : this this this
327 S : ez
328 T : és a that?
329 S : az
330 T : so hát mondom hogy this is a
331 S : ez a
332 T : pen és that is a poster vagy picture ugye? this és that hogy van ennek a többes
száma? ha emlékeztek rá ? this is többes számban (2.0) these
333 S : are
334 T : are hosszan ejted these are és those are ((emphasises the pronounciation)) ezt leírod
these are és those are tehát this ez these ezek ((she is writing on the blackboaard)) that
az és those azok (3.0) yes? (7.0) egy–egy példamondatot írunk vele one sentence
with each of them egy–egy példamondatot one sentence with each of them yes? this is
a (2.0) ((she is writing on the blackboard)) a villanyt már annyit használtuk
335 S : map
336 T : a map az rövid these are ((writes on the board)) maps yes? Tehát a these (2.0) után
are van és a this után is van aztán that is a poster és those are posters ugyanaz a
dolog van vele sajnálom hogy most egymás után ezt a két közel álló kifejezést
használjuk de (4.0) tehát this is ez egy térkép these are hogy is fordítjuk? these are
maps
337 S : az azok
338 T : nem ( 2.0) itt van közel hozzám these are maps nem egy van hanem kettı mondjuk
339 S : ezek az asztalok
340 T : ezek a nem map az térkép
341 S : ezek térképek
342 T : ezek térképek
és akkor that is a poster
343 S : azok (xxxx)
344 T : és those are ott szemben velem messze azok posterek látjuk a képek alapján az elsı
a this is an apple a hatos feladatnál és a második?
345 S : those are
346 T : those are buses jó az egyes képet mondjad Tamás ( 2.0)
347 S : this is an apple?
348 T : nem (2.0) alatta
349 S : (xxxx xxxx)
350 T : nézd meg hány van ott ı (3.0) több van tehát hogy mondjuk ı (2.0)
351 S : these are
352 T : these are gyere Tamás és írd fel a táblára these are hamburgers come to the
blackboard and write these are hamburgers these a füzetbe írjad Vivien these are
hamburgers (13.0) these are hamburgers (10.0) ((the student is writing on the
blackboard)) hamburger úgy van írva? hamburg az egy város és nem lumburg
hanem há bető na jó próbáld csak meg hamburger these are külön írva
humburgers jól van következıt kérem a kettes képet
353 Ss : (xxxx xxxx)
354 T : nem this mert messze mutatja a szoba másik része hogy van?
355 Ss : these
356 T : nem (2.0) az
357 Ss : those that
358 T : that that is a that is a
359 Ss : (xxxx)
360 T : gyere Luca come to the blackboard and write
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362 T : semmi baj, nem jöttünk érte csak be akartam írni hogy megint nincs házi feladata
és nincs ellenırzıje és nincs üzenıje mert az ellenırzı a tanító néninél van ((she is
laughing))
363 V : (xxxx)
364 T : ugye? szia
365 V : csókolom ((the visitor leaves)) ( 4.0)
366 S : mi volt a mondat?
367 T : hát ez az mi volt a mondat? a tanító nénitek sem zavar?
368 S : that is a computer
369 T : that is a computer (6.0) jó mondjad a következıt
370 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
371 T : that is a (6.0)
372 S : (xxxx)
373 T : várjál nézzük meg
374 Ss : friends (4.0)
375 T : na most messze állnak akkor hogy mondod?
376 S : those
377 T : those are friends gyere írd föl
378 S : ((the student is writing on the blackboard)) (18.0)
379 T : hányadika van ma? tizenkettı ((students are laughing)) (12.0) várjál ö friend barát
380 S : francia
381 T : francia barát de azt is e–vel írod friend tehát (3.0) tehát those are friends
mondhatod a következıt Vivien
382 S : ö this is a pizz pizza
383 T : this is a pizza (6.0) this is a pizza ((the student is writing on the blackboard)) (10.0) this
is a pizza jól van hát ezt még gyakoroljuk amit most szeretnék hogy (4.0) hogy
lássam hogy jól van-e beállítva (4.0) ((she is searching on the cassette)) bocsánat
nálunk ilyen a TV hogy (4.0) emlékeztek-e erre?
384 C : one potato two potatoes three potatoes four five potatoes six potatoes seven potatoes
more
385 C& : one potato two potatoes three potatoes four five potatoes six potatoes seven potatoes
T more
386 C : one potato two potatoes three potatoes four five potatoes six potatoes seven potatoes
more one potato two potatoes three potatoes four five potatoes six potatoes seven
potatoes more one potato two potatoes three potatoes four five potatoes six potatoes
seven potatoes more one potato two potatoes three potatoes four five potatoes six
potatoes seven potatoes more
387 T : mondjad
388 C& : one potato two potatoes three potatoes four five potatoes six potatoes seven potatoes
T& more
Ss
389 T : that’s why no ezt úgy játszuk hogy gyere ide Laci kérem a (xxxx)-t és az én egyik
kezemmel az elsıt nagyon jó egy két há
390 T& : one potato two potato three potatoes four five potatoes six potatoes seven potatoes
Ss more kiesett ((the teacher speeds up)) one potato two potato three potato four five
potatoes six potatoes seven potatoes more kiesett one potato two potato three potato
four five potato six potatoes seven potatoes more kiesett one potato two potatoes three
potatoes four five potatoes six potatoes seven potatoes more lássuk hogy ki lesz a
gyıztes one potato ez következik ugye? One potato two potatoes three potatoes four
five potatoes six potatoes seven potatoes more nagyszerő az egyik kezedet tedd ki
csak ugye mondjátok mert az a lényeg én jövök ugye?
391 Ss : igen
392 T& : one potato two ptatoes three potatoes four four five potatoes six potatoes seven
Ss potatoes more one potato two potatoes three potatoes four four five potatoes six
potatoes sven potatoes more ((more and more kids are getting involved and they can
say it better)) (xxxx) nyert nézzétek ı volt az ügyesebb igen
393 S : úgy játszották hogy el kell menni elıle
394 T : el kell menni elıle?
395 Ss : aki bent marad utoljára az a fogó
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397 Ss : burgonya
398 T : burgonya és a more még több burgonya szervusztok házi feladatotok meg van
tanuljátok ezt a két oldalt bye bye mutasd jaj de szép mi ez?
399 S. : ö hát ez
400 T : tégla?
401 Ss : (xxxx xxxx xxxx) nem tégla ilyen (xxxx)
402 T : (xxxx) igen bye bye ügyesek voltatok ma (2.0) ugye milyen ügyesek?
403 R : nagyon jók voltak
404 T : igen Tamást kell visszafogni idınként de hát ez van jó volt
405 R : van ilyen
406 T : good bye bye bye nektek is jaj de még találkozunk még pihenjetek is közben
szervusztok Enikı csukd be légy szíves az ajtót mert huzat van tudod
407 R : nagyon jó volt
408 T : hát mit mondjak szóval

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Lesson Kati 3

1 T : aa that’s right good so aa this this ö

2 S : Kati néni becsukhatom az ablakot?
3 T : yes are you cold? becsukhatod csukjad be close it (2.0) yes that’s right ö (xxxx xxxx) with
your progress diary which is ö a revision (5.0) yes so write please in your book I am I’m the
second one Margit is ö the first yes first exercise you are ((students are using an extra
grammar exercise book))
4 S : you are
5 T : you’re yes you’re number three Bernadett (2.0) ö (4.0) ö (3.0) yes
6 S : she is she’s
7 T : Ági
8 S : you are you’re
9 T : yes Erna (4.0)
10 S : you
11 T : e igen she is megvan következı
12 S : he
13 T& : is ((teacher puts emphasis on the sound s))
S
14 T : he’s that’s right Bettina (3.0) she he^
15 S : it is
16 T : it is^
17 S : it’s
18 T : it is it is it is (xxxx) Zoltán she is he is it is you are^
19 S : we are
20 T : we are^ és a
21 S : they are
22 T : és az utolsó?
23 S : they are
24 T : they are és they are that’s right they are és they are (7.0) that’s it Franciska this is^
25 S : this is
26 T : a^
27 T& : this is a^
S
28 S : book
29 T : this is a book (8.0) ((teacher writing sentence on board)) this is a book (4.0) yes this one ö
Bernadett
30 S : that is that a radio
31 T : that is a radio (9.0) yes
32 S : these are pencils
33 T : these are pencils ((emphasis on last s)) yes these are pencils
34 S : Kati néni nekem idáig van és (xxxx xxxx)
35 T : ne azt az egy lapot már írjad a füzetbe akkor (2.0) ez nagyon rossz hogy csak ilyen
keveset fénymásoltok egyszerre szerintem jobban jártál volna ha megveszed ezt a
könyvet de megy el a a (xxxx)-be Krisztina és nem vette meg a könyvet hát mondjuk
elég drága is volt de hát nem tud dolgozni mindig csak egy-egy oldalt fénymásolnak
neki yes tessék
36 S : those are pictures
37 T : those are pictures (9.0) those are pictures (7.0) yes? Robi
38 S : there is a book
39 T : there is a book on the^
40 S : table
41 T : desk (3.0) jaj megint a vizet engedik ((loud sound from the wall)) (8.0)
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43 T : mi?
44 S : mibe engedik a vizet?
45 T : hát vederbe engedik a másik csapból a vizet és a megremeg az egész rendszer egyszer ki
fog pukkadni a csı
46 Ss : úúúúúúúú
47 T : yes yes yes that’s ok aa there is there are Margit
48 S : there are three^
49 S : pens
50 T : there are^
51 S : three pens
52 T : three pens ((emphasis on last s)) (6.0) Levente (6.0)
53 S : is there is there a pencil-box?
54 T : is there a pencil-box?
55 S : nem volt
56 T : nem baj majd mindjárt pótoljuk az isn’t és aren’t-et is és Levente ne lapozd megint a
könyvedet yes (xxxx)
57 S : there isn’t a dog under the desk
58 T : isn’t a dog under the desk yes there isn’t a dog under the desk (3.0) Dia
59 S : there aren’t? pencils under the table
60 T : aren’t pencils under the table vagy on the table under is jó mindegy (9.0) ((teacher writing
on the board)) yes? nagyon aktív vagy Bernadett mi történt veled? nagyon örülök neki
mondjad
61 S : are there a book?
62 T : are there ez nem jó miért nem jó Bernadett?
63 S : are there books?
64 T : are there books
65 S : are there books
66 T : under the desk in the on the shelf are there books under the x-szel az megbuksz under the
shelf? nem a tárgyhoz tartozik Robi please majd a végén tudom hogy elmeséljük az órát
jó ı name five things in the classroom one Robi in English please
67 S : aa door
68 T : door
69 S : blackboard
70 T : blackboard
71 S : (xxxx)
72 T : (xxxx)
73 S : ö chair
74 T : chair
75 S : pencil-box
76 T : pencil-box
77 S : table
78 T : table
79 S : television
80 T : television
81 S : ö cupboard
82 T : cupboard
83 S : blackboard
84 T : blackboard ((teacher tapping board))
85 S : wall
86 T : wall
87 S : map
88 T : map
89 S : children
90 T : children hát a lényeg yes és hogy mondod másképpen ezeket az emberkéket akik
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92 T : people vagy
93 Ss : students
94 T : students that’s right children másikat tessék another way (3.0) yes
95 S : teacher
96 T : teacher mondtuk Levente
97 S : mmm picture
98 T : picture
99 S : video ((pronounced almost in Hungarian))
100 T : window
101 Ss : video ((pronounced in Hungarian))
102 T : ja video video
103 S : lamp
104 T : lamp
105 S : map
106 T : ma az már volt
107 S : cassettes
108 T : cassettes yes please
109 S : book
110 T : book
111 S : poszterek
112 T : posters (2.0) Ági
113 S : nem nem tudom mondani radiottor
114 T : radiator erre gondolsz yes
115 S : cassette recorder
116 T : cassette recorder
117 S : ra radio
118 T : ezt már mondtuk többször is yes
119 S : light
120 T : light no more?
121 S : ruler
122 T : ruler
123 S : dictionary
124 T : dictionary yes please
125 S : notebook
126 T : notebook
127 S : pencil
128 T : pencil
129 S : connector
130 T : yes plug-nak mondjuk
131 S : rubber
132 T : rubber ok that’s right hát ez több mint öt ö volt ez már hat is yes
133 S : ruler
134 T : ruler yes egyedül Levente nem mondott
135 S : de mondott cassette recorder
136 T : cassette recorder bocsánat te is mondtál jól van rendben van tehát these are things in the
classroom so aa she is from England what is your question for this?
137 S : where is she from?
138 T : where is she from? (6.0) where is she from? (4.0) yes Bernadett
139 S : he is from Spain
140 T : he isn’t from Spain he vagy she? he isn’t from Spain he is from Greece (2.0) no he isn’t from
Spain he is from Greece what is your question Bernadett? (2.0) yes
141 S : he is he from Spain?
142 T : is he from Spain? no he isn’t from Spain he is from Greece he isn’t from Spain he is from
Greece (6.0) Bálint good morning what is the next one? another greeting
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144 S : good day

145 T : good day (2.0) aa használják ezt is amerikai
146 S : good (3.0)
147 S : good af
148 S : afternoon
149 T : afternoon Bálint (xxxx) good
150 S : afternoon
151 T : that’s right do you use the good day in Scotland Krisztina?
152 R : no
153 T : only afternoon yes how do you say jó estét?
154 S : good
155 S : good night
156 T : vagy
157 Ss : good evening
158 T : good evening and good night mit is jelent? what does
159 Ss : jó éjszakát
160 T : jó éjszakát good night (2.0) good night (2.0)
161 S : Kati néni akkor a (xxxx xxxx)
162 T : nem nem nem hogy mondod viszontlátásra Anna?
163 S : bye good bye
164 T : good bye vagy bye see you és üdv üdv üdv szia
165 S : bye bye
166 T : üdv vagy szia nem? (3.0)
167 S : hello hi
168 T : hello vagy hi that’s right (14.0) ((teacher setting cassette)) yes let’s
169 C : the first game my family name is
170 T : sorry mer aa visszavittem az elıbb a kazetttát és megint nem állítottam le
171 C : twenty years old
172 T : who is he?
173 C : school in Europe
174 S : (xxxx)
175 T : dehogy is
176 C : I’m at class nine there are twenty-two students in my class this is a photo of me and my
family there are three children in my family two boys and one girl I’m the boy with a CD my
favourite pop group is U2 best wishes Bannos
177 T : ok (3.0) ((teacher changing track)) yes and we are the champions let’s listen to it and for the
second time please complete the words
178 C : listen and complete the words of the song we are the champions we are the champions two
four six eight our team is great we are the champions North South East and West our team is
the best we are the champions we are the champions
179 S : mégegyszer
180 S : mégegyszer
181 S : és és lehet énekelni?
182 T : lehet énekelni de egyszer elmondjuk a szöveget tehát ismételd we are the champions
183 Ss : champions ((pronouncing it in the French and Hungarian way))
184 T : nem nem nem champions hogy?
185 Ss : champions
186 T : mégegyszer
187 T& : we are the champions mi az a cham
Ss
188 S : bajnok
189 T : bajnokok persze we are the champions
190 S : two
191 T : two

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192 S : four
193 T : four
194 Ss : six eight
195 T : two four
196 T& : six eight our team is great
Ss
197 T : mégegyszer
198 T& : our team is great
Ss
199 T : we are the
200 T& : champions
Ss
201 T : again
202 T& : we are the champions North
Ss
203 Ss : South East West
204 S : and West
205 T : and West our team is the best what is the best?
206 S : a leg
207 S : a legjobb
208 T : a legjobb it’s the best our team is great a mi csapatunk nagyszerő our team is the best mi
csapatunk a legjobb yes tehát we are the champions lehet énekelni de nem üvöltünk
209 C : and complete the words of the song
210 T : figyelj figyelj
211 C : we are the champions
212 C& : we are the champions two four six eight our team is great
Ss
213 T : (xxxx xxxx) szavakat halljam
214 C& : we are the champions North South East and West our team is the best We are the champions
Ss
215 T : (xxxx) te is
216 C& : we are the champions
Ss
217 T : (4.0) yes that’s right so champion azt jelenti Levente hogy
218 S : ba bajnok
219 T : yes team azt jelenti Margit hogy
220 S : csapat
221 T : and best azt jelenti Zita hogy
222 S : legjobb
223 T : and great azt jelenti Dia hogy
224 S : jó (2.0) nagyszerő
225 T : na nagyszerő that’s right good aam ı ezzel ezt a fejezetet befejeztük aa kedden lesz
óránk akkor fölkészülünk a szódolgozatra aa házifeladatotok lesz kettı feladatot nem
csináltunk meg arról a lapról amit fénymásoltam nektek aa ı hatost és a nyolcast az
lesz a házifeladatotok szintén ilyen összefoglaló dolog (2.0) hatos és nyolcas mindenki
hozza a lapot természetesen és az egész fejezetet kérdezem aa egyszer szeretném még a
where are you from aa leckét hallani ı Zoltán olvassa föl please read it out (3.0)
226 S : there are two students in the (xxxx) hi my name is (xxxx) hello I’m (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
where are you from (xxxx?) I’m from Spain are you from Spain? no I’m not I’m from
Greece are you students here in (xxxx?) Yes we are
227 T : that’s right mm Ági
228 S : good evening hi they (xxxx) Peter’s (xxxx xxxx) they are (xxxx) no they aren’t look there’s
a special man (xxxx)
229 T : yes ö Levente
230 S : oo this (xxxx) is horrible
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232 S : what has he got a drink

233 T : yes Bálint
234 S : write it up this is my home number oh thank you (xxxx) bye (xxxx) good bye (xxxx)
235 T : how do you say Japán? (3.0)
236 S : a
237 T : Japan? Nagy-Britannia?
238 S : Great Britain
239 T : Portugália?
240 S : Portugal
241 T : Görögország?
242 S : Greece
243 T : Spanyolország?
244 S : Spain
245 T : how do you say Brazilia?
246 S : Brazil ((wrong pronunciation))
247 T : Brazil Skócia Zita?
248 S : Scotland
249 T : Írország Bálint?
250 S : ı Ireland
251 T : Magyarország Anna?
252 S : Hungary
253 T : Hungary mi baj van?
254 S : semmi
255 T : összevesztél?
256 S : nem
257 T : Fannival?
258 T : Hungary aa hogy mondod? (2.0) Anglia?
259 S : England
260 T : igen mit tanultunk még melyik orsz
261 S : Welsz
262 T : Wales
263 S : Egyiptom
264 T : Egypt azt az elızı órán hallottuk
265 S : meg aa Észak-Írország
266 S : North^
267 Ss : Northern Ireland
268 T : Northern Northern Ireland yes that’s right no akkor következik az hogy egy dalt
hallgatunk meg ami után pedig játszunk
269 Ss : jaj de jó
270 S : bingó (4.0)
271 T : figyelj mert ı visszaénekeljük tehát (14.0) ten green bottles
272 S : ez jó
273 C& : ten green
Ss
274 T : énekel
275 C& : bottles
Ss
276 C& : standing on the wall ten
Ss
277 C& : green bottles standing on the wall and if one
Ss
278 C& : green bottle should accidently fall there will be nine green bottles standing on the wall nine
Ss green bottles standing on the wall nine green bottles standing on the wall and if one green
bottle should accidently fall
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280 C& : green bottles standing on the wall

Ss
281 C& : eight
Ss
282 C& : green bottles standing on the wall eight green bottles standing on the wall
Ss
283 C& : and
Ss
284 C& : if one green bottle
Ss
285 T : should accidently fall
286 Cs : there will be seven
287 C& : green bottles standing on the wall seven green bottles standing on the wall seven green
Ss bottles
288 T : seven
289 C& : standing on the wall and
Ss
290 C& : if one green bottle should accidentally fall there will be six green bottles standing on the
Ss
291 C& : wall
Ss
292 T : sing
293 C& : six green bottles standing on the wall six green bottles standing on the wall and
Ss
294 C& : if one green bottle should accidentally fall
Ss
295 C : there will be
296 C& : five green bottles standing on the wall
Ss
297 C& : five green
Ss
298 C& : bottles standing on the wall five green bottles standing on the wall and if one green bottle
Ss should accidentally fall there will be
299 C& : four green bottles standing on the wall
Ss
300 C& : four
Ss
301 C& : green bottles standing on the wall four green bottles standing on the wall and if one green
Ss bottle should accidentally fall
302 C : there will be
303 C& : three green bottles standing on the wall three green bottles standing on the wall three green
Ss bottles standing on the wall and if one green bottle should accidentally fall
304 C : there will be
305 C& : two green bottles standing on the wall two green bottles standing on the wall two green
Ss bottles standing on the wall and if
306 C& : one green bottle
Ss
307 C& : should accidentally fall
Ss
308 C : there will be
309 C& : one
Ss
310 C& : green bottle standing on the wall one green bottle sta^
Ss
311 C& : ^nding on the wall
Ss
312 C& : one green bottle standing on the wall and if one green bottle should accidentally fall
Ss

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313 C : there will be no green bottles

314 T : no green bottles
315 C : standing on the wall
316 T : standing on the wall (4.0) nem csodálom (4.0) three four
317 T& : five
Ss
318 Ss : six seven eight nine ten (4.0)
319 T : tátva maradt a szája
320 S : happy birthday-t
321 T : na na
322 S : az nagyon jó
323 T : ok
324 C& : happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday dear (xxxx) happy birthday to
Ss you
325 S : (xxxx xxxx)
326 S : vége
327 T : that’s right
328 C : happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday dear (xxxx) happy birthday

329 T : (xxxx)
330 C : to you
331 T : thank you (2.0) so mit mit is jelent az hogy should accidental^ ^tally fall? no véletlenül
véletlenül egy hosszú szó hould accidentally fall accidentally fall véletlenül leesik egy
marad kilenc marad nyolc és így tovább és mi az a green bottle?
332 Ss : zöld üveg
333 T : that’s right igen hát vettük ezt már tavaly azt hiszem ugye?
334 Ss : igen
335 Ss : igen
336 T : ok aa no I am thinking of a word now I think of a aa thing in the classroom yes (2.0) aa you
can ask me (2.0)
337 S : aa
338 T : yes
339 S : subject?
340 T : is it ö a school subject? no it isn’t úgy kérdezi is it big is it small is it brown?
341 S : is it big?
342 T : aa no it isn’t
343 S : is it green?
344 T : aa could be
345 S : a nagy is lehet?
346 S : is it small?
347 T : yes that was the first question
348 S : is it is it country?
349 T : not a country
350 S : is it
351 S : az lehet zöld?
352 T : lehet smaragdsziget Írország
353 S : brown?
354 T : yes it could be brown it could be green it could be milyen színt kérdeztetek még? yes
355 S : it’s a
356 T : is it a^ is it a^
357 S : is it a
358 T : várjál
359 S : is it a
360 T : wait a little bit is it a^
361 S : is it a

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362 T : is it a^
363 S : is it a map?
364 T : is it no it’s not big it’s big
365 S : kicsi
366 T : yes is it a^
367 S : a fruit?
368 T : fruit no it isn’t
369 S : is it a board?
370 T : no it isn’t it’s small
371 S : ö
372 T : is it^ Patrik
373 S : á én másra gondoltam
374 T : azt hittem hogy megkérdezed hogy does it have four legs? yes
375 S : is it a
376 S : is it
377 T : is it a
378 S : is it a vipera
379 S : is it a animal?
380 T : no it isn’t
381 S : is it a calendar?
382 T : calendar no it isn’t
383 S : is it a book?
384 T : no it isn’t
385 S : is it a pencil-box?
386 T : yes (2.0) is it it is a pencil-box small and green yes come here come here (2.0) it’s your turn
now think of a thing de én arra gondoltam hogy az osztályból egy tárgya mondtam és a
thing of the classroom de úgy elsikkadt itt a zajban mi milyen tárgyra gondolsz? what is
your object? Ömm úgy értem hogy ı osztályból vagy iskolán kívül vagy állat vagy mire
gondolsz
387 S : osztályban
388 T : osztályban in the classroom gon úgy gondolkozzatok yes please kérdéseket várok yes
please
389 S : (xxxx xxxx)
390 T : ig igen persze
391 S : is it (xxxx?)
392 S : no
393 T : it isn’t
394 S : no it isn’t
395 S : is it brown?
396 S : no it isn’t (3.0)
397 S : is it black? (3.0)
398 S : no it isn’t
399 S : is it white?
400 S : no it isn’t
401 S : is it green?
402 S : yes (4.0)
403 S : is it a map?
404 S : no it isn’t (4.0)
405 S : is it a
406 T : is it a
407 S : green?
408 T : is it green?
409 S : no
410 S : is it a (xxxx) little book?
411 S : no no

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412 T : markbook
413 S : a szótár
414 T : aa dictionary
415 S : is it a dictionary?
416 S : no it isn’t
417 S : is is it a pen?
418 S : no it isn’t
419 S : is it a pullover?
420 S : no it isn’t
421 S : is it a picture?
422 S : no it isn’t
423 S : is it a (xxxx?)
424 S : hát az nem ilyen (xxxx)
425 S : is it open doors?
426 T : leesik a tolltartód
427 S : (xxxx xxxx?)
428 T : tied (4.0)
429 S : is it a is it a jeans?
430 S : no it isn’t
431 T : aa is it a jeans are they jeans úgy kellene majd
432 S : is it a cassette?
433 T : cassette?
434 S : yes it is
435 T : haha it’s a blue cassette open doors that’s right Bernadett come please aa kérdezzetek ne
csak a színére meg hogy nagy kicsi hogy mondod kerek?
436 S : kör ?
437 S : round
438 T : round is it round? vagy is it square? tanultuk az (xxxx) is it a triangle? (4.0)
439 S : in the class?
440 T : in the class
441 S : is it a green?
442 T : is it a
443 S : is it a big?
444 T : is it big?
445 S : yes
446 S : is it a brown?
447 T : is it brown?
448 S : e is it brown?
449 S : no it isn’t
450 S : is it green?
451 S : no it isn’t
452 S : is it a triangle?
453 S : no
454 T : háromszög alakú én jól megmondtam nektek hogy mit
455 S : is it blue?
456 T : is it blue?
457 S : no it isn’t
458 S : is it a small?
459 T : is it small?
460 S : yes it is
461 S : de hogyha már nem nagy akkor
462 T : jól van Bálint
463 S : is it yellow?
464 T : kommentálsz sokat

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465 S : no it isn’t
466 S : is it a blue?
467 T : nem a is it blue?
468 S : az már volt
469 S : is it white?
470 S : is it green?
471 S : is it black?
472 S : yes it is (4.0)
473 S : én én én tudom
474 T : de ne megint te zajongj
475 S : is it red?
476 T : mondta hogy fekete
477 S : is it square? (9.0)
478 S : azt hogy tetszik mondani hogy csak fekete?
479 T : only only black?
480 S : only black? (2.0)
481 T : it’s not only black
482 S : (xxxx xxxx)
483 T : yes ö nem mindegy milyen nagy hát
484 S : is it television?
485 S : no it isn’t
486 S : is it a is it a dictionary?
487 S : jaj én már tudom
488 S : hát nem tudom hogy mondják de aa fogas?
489 T : peg
490 S : vagy peg?
491 S : is it a pencil-box?
492 T : az már volt
493 S : (7.0) is it a is it a chair?
494 S : is it a is it a notebook?
495 S : is it (xxxx?) (3.0) ((children laughing))
496 T : is it (xxxx?)
497 S : is it a book?
498 T : no már mondta hogy nem
499 S : hát nem biztos és azt hogy mondják a szemüveget?
500 T : de azt tanultuk
501 S : tényleg?
502 T : glasses
503 S : ja glass tényleg
504 T : glasses yes hát ö nem az elıbb kérdezte nem is it mert többes számban van are they jeans
505 S : is it a trousers?
506 T : trousers are they trousers? vagy a pair of trousers
507 S : is it a radio?
508 T : cassette recorder
509 S : (xxxxx xxx?)
510 T : haha fekete yes
511 S : pedig kicsi
512 T : yes (3.0)
513 S : ilyen hasonlatot hogy akkora mint egy (xxxx) azt hogy mondjuk?
514 T : as big as as small as
515 S : is it (xxxx?) (2.0) ((children laughing))
516 T : ö nem
517 S : sárga
518 T : ha olyan nagyon pici és fekete akkor hangya aa nem

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519 S : is it a poster?
520 S : no it isn’t (3.0)
521 S : is it a kapcsoló?
522 T : are they (xxxx?) Zoltán Zoltán yes na hát szabad a gazda it’s a^
523 S : it’s a key
524 T : key fekete kulcs?
525 S : na és mi honnan látjuk?
526 S : hát és hol van itt fekete
527 T : ja ez hát ez nem is kulcs
ez ez az angolteremnek a
528 S : ö feketés
529 T : jaj hogy feketés it’s a (xxxx) aa azt emlékeztek tanultuk hogy mibıl készül hogy
mondod? is it made of metal made of wood made of paper made of valamibıl mert akkor
könnyebb hogy made of metal yes
530 S : Kati néni jöhetek?
531 T : gyere
532 S : és a mőanyagot hogy mondják angolul?
533 T : plastic
534 S : micsoda?
535 S : plastic?
536 S : mőanyagot?
537 T : yes plastic good
538 S : is it (xxxx?)
539 T : jó
540 S : megvan (4.0) ((children laughing))
541 T : jó tessék
542 S : (xxxx xxxx?) ((children laughing))
543 T : Bálint azt tudja
544 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx?)
545 T : is it small?
546 S : is it small?
547 S : ö yes
548 T : it’s quite small Zoltán állítsd le magad kérlek
549 S : is it (xxxx?)
550 S : no it isn’t (4.0)
551 S : aha (xxxx)
552 S : oooo
553 S : mi volt ez?
554 T : Bálint haaa szívbajt hozod rám yes please
555 S : made make of pi
556 T : is it made of paper?
557 S : is it made made of paper?
558 T : made yes
559 S : ja de hát én már kiestem
560 S : Levi nem estél ki Levi
561 S : is it purple?
562 S : no no it isn’t Fanni
563 S : is it a poster?
564 S : no it isn’t Erna
565 S : is it a a a little (2.0)
566 T : little book? no
567 S : micsoda? white? no it ö yes it is
568 T : yes it is Margit nem hallom hogy kérdezel
569 S : is it made of paper? ((wrong pronunciation))
570 T : paper

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571 S : yes it is Patrik

572 S : is it a book?
573 T : ez már a tizedik
574 S : no it isn’t
575 T : no book mindenkinek mert nem hallatszik
576 S : no it isn’t Fanni
577 S : is it a map?
578 S : no it isn’t
579 T : ez már harmadjára hangzott el nem hallod amit mondanak
580 S : is it a paper?
581 T : a sheet of paper?
582 S : no it isn’t
583 T : picture?
584 S : black cat
585 S : no (2.0) ((children laughing))
586 S : is it a door?
587 S : no it isn’t papír?
588 S : ja ja
589 T : na
590 S : is it a calendar?
591 S : no it isn’t
592 S : is it a notebook?
593 S : no it isn’t
594 S : is it a lamp?
595 S : no it isn’t
596 T : papírból
597 S : is it a timetable?
598 S : no it isn’t
599 S : is it a (xxxx?)
600 S : no it isn’t
601 S : is it a (xxxx?)
602 S : no it isn’t
603 S : mi az hogy kréta? (3.0)
604 S : papírból de papírból?
605 T : aa Dia piece of chalk a kréta
606 S : is it a ball?
607 S : no it az papír? (2.0) ((laughter)) igen papír
608 S : is it a (xxxx?)
609 T : haha az is papír
610 S : ö no it isn’t
611 T : na
612 S : tehát a belseje fehér tehát a külseje az más
613 S : is it a dictionary?
614 S : no it isn’t
615 T : már te vagy a harmadik aki kérdez
616 S : is it a (xxxx?)
617 S : no it isn’t
618 S : is it a project?
619 S : no it isn’t (4.0)
620 S : is it a szótár?
621 T : aa dictionary
622 S : már negyedjére
623 T : negyedjére kérdik a dictionary-t
624 S : szabad a gazda

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625 T : yes please

626 S : is it diary
627 T : the di^
628 S : napló
629 S : napló
630 S : napló
631 S : hát az itt van ezt ugye te is láthattad
632 S : ja azt akartam kérdezni
633 T : de az nem nem diary de azt tudjuk nem baj sajnos csengetnek de nem baj hát aa please
put the chairs on the desk (3.0) and have a nice weekend
634 S : thank you
635 T : sorakozol Zsani
636 S : (xxxx xxxx)
637 T : Fanni akkor is sorakozol (13.0) yes please
638 S : Kati néni hol a napló? elvit^
639 T : elvitték már mondtam hogy ne is hozzátok jó hát nagyon zajosak voltatok de ügyesek
jó hétvégét mindenkinek és pihenjetek is ne csak tanuljatok Zita neked is mondom
tehát pihenjetek is ne csak tanuljatok és jó hétvégét (2.0) good bye

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Lesson Kati 4

1 T : ok that’s right Erna

2 S : tanárnéninek tisztelettel jelentem a csoport létszáma 16 hiányzó nincs ma 2005
május 12-e van az idı napos meleg
3 T : in English please today is
4 S : today is 12 today is Thursday the 12th of May it’s sunny and it’s hot
5 T : thank you go to your place and sit down (19.0) ((pupils are sitting down)) ok how
are you today? Rea
6 S : mm fine thank you
7 T : yes what about the weather today Anna? (6.0)
8 S : mm
9 T : yes but Anna what about the weather today it’s^
10 S : today is sunny
11 T : is anybody absent today is anybody missing classes today? Nobody yes?
Everybody’s here
12 S : yes
13 S : yes
14 T : ok thank you take that back yes I wrote a note? what’s her name your teacher yes
please what’s the weather like?
15 S : the weather like is
16 T : the weather is
17 S : the weather is (4.0) mmm
18 S : sunny
19 S : sunny
20 T : yes sunny
21 S : and cold
22 S : cold
23 T : not cold but it’s cool a little bit yes
24 S : not cold?
25 T : not cold it’s hot it’s not hot but it’s (xxxx)
26 S : cool
27 T : yes it’s (xxxx)
28 S : not rainy
29 T : it’s not rainy yes who can tell one more sentence? Is it windy outside? No^
30 Ss : no
31 T : I don’t think it’s a little bit yes
32 S : the sky is blue
33 T : the sky is blue and what can you see in the sky? you can see clo^
34 S : cloudy
35 T : clouds that’s right it’s cloudy a little bit you’re right some clouds what about your
homework Margit? have you got anything to do for today?
36 S : a könyvben
37 T : yes
38 S : és (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
39 T : ok let’s read the letter first will you?
40 S : ezt a dear Juan-t?
41 T : yes
42 S : ö 22 New Port Road Cardif CF6 4PU well 16 October
43 T : 16th
44 S : 16 of
45 T : 16th of
46 T : of
47 T&S : October
48 S : dear Juan I’m your new penfriend my name is Helen that’s my first name my
second name is Jon
49 T : thank you Diána
50 S : I’m from Cardiff in Wales I’m 15 years old the name of my school is Temple

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Cardiff Comprehen
51 T : Comprehensive
52 S : I am in year 10 there are 27 students in my class my favourite singer is Prince who
is your favourite? Best wishes Helen this is photo of me mine
53 T : this is a^
54 S : this is a photo of mine
55 T : a^
56 Ss : me
57 Ss : me
58 T : me that’s right good na let’s see what is ? her first name? Zita
59 S : her first name
60 T&S : is^
61 S : Helen
62 T : is Helen ö yes what is her family name? (6.0) á yes ö jól van Robi thank you hozd
vissza légy szíves jó mert huszan lettünk yes ö á once again what’s her first name
Zita?
63 S : her first name is Helen
64 T : what’s her family name Margit?
65 S : her family name is John
66 T : what is the town? Where does she live?
67 S : she live
68 T : lives
69 S : she lives Cardiff in Wales
70 T : in Cardiff in Wales Wales is the country I wanted to ask about the country as well
what is her age? How old is she? Zoltán
71 S : ö she is ö (2.0) she is 15 years old
72 T : 15 years old that’s right what’s the name of the school who can tell me the name of
the school Bernadett
73 S : her her name school
74 T : the school’s name
75 S : the school’s name is Temple Cardiff Comprehensive
76 T : comprehensive what do you mean by comprehensive? What ? (2.0) ((knock on
door)) do you know about comprehensive schools central comprehensive mit
mondtam a múlt órán mi az a
77 S : az ilyen gyakorlóiskola
78 T : nem
79 Ss : átfogó
80 T : igen tehát egy általános iskola Margit néni ((that is me the researcher)) what is a
comprehensive school is it a primary school?
81 R : I have no idea I think (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
82 T : yes átfogóiskola comprehensive where they learn everything mindent tanulnak
tehát nincs kiemelt tantárgy but it’s if the girl is fifteen this is a primary school
because they go up to fifteen or sixteen
83 R : twelve
84 T : twelve is the primary and from^
85 R : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
86 T : yes but from twelve to sixteen there is upper primary no is it secondary?
87 R : (xxxx xxxx)
88 T : aha (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx) it’s different a little bit that’s right good because I
know that comprehensive schools (xxxx) like ö lower and upper primary something
similar it’s not the same but similar ok aa so year what year is she in? Patrik
89 S : she in ten year
90 T : in year^
91 S : in year ten
92 T : ten she is in year ten I am in year ten she is in year ten a that’s right what is the
student’s number in the class (xxxx) ((pupil’s name))
93 S : (xxxx)
94 T : what what’s the number of the students (2.0) how many students are there in the
class?
95 S : twenty-seven

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96 T : twenty-seven altogether yes what’s? her favourite singer Fanni?

97 S : her favourite singer is Prince
98 T : is Spri Prince that’s right a let me see what’s your first name Bálint? (2.0)
99 S : öö
100 T : what’s your first name?
101 S : ö my first name is Bálint
102 T : what’s your family name?
103 S : my family name is Xxxx
104 T : (xxxx) what’s your? town?
105 S : öö my (3.0) my
106 T : town
107 S : my town
108 T : is
109 S : Budapest
110 T : is Budapest that’s right what’s ah yes of course thank you a what’s your ((pupils
and teacher laughing)) ))a ((door opening)) what’s a your country? (4.0) ((pupils
laughing))
111 S : ö my country is Hungary
112 S : not Wales ((indicating bad pronunciation))
113 S : no
114 T : no it’s not Wales ((bad pronunciation)) Wales ((attempt for the right
pronunciation)) yes how interestingly they pronounce that word Wales ((slowing
down)) that’s right how old are you Bálint?
115 S : I am 11
116 T : what year are you in at school?
117 S : I am in year four
118 T : I am in year four
119 T : a who is your favourite singer?
120 S : my favourite singer is (4.0) Mike Oldfield
121 T : yes
122 S : Prince
123 T : Prince ((laughter)) Prince that’s right what’s your favourite subject?
124 S : my favourite subject is
125 T : Geography?
126 S : igen
127 S : yes is it Geography? That’s right Rea would you like to aa make an interview to
somebody with the class? yes ask you please who would like to ask? ö na
128 S : Anna
129 S : és ugyanazt mint a Bálint
130 T : yes
131 S : ı
132 T : about Anna a report
133 S : what’s your first name?
134 S : my first name is Anna
135 S : what’s your family name?
136 S : my family name is Xxxx
137 T : Xxxx
138 S : ö what’s your town?
139 S : my town
140 T : is^
141 S : is Budapest
142 S : what’s your country?
143 S : my country is Hungary
144 S : ö how old are you?
145 S : I’m eleven years old
146 S : ö what’s the name of of? of
147 T : what’s the name of the^
148 S : of your school?
149 T : mhm
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151 T : I Kölcsey Ferenc primary primary school vagy elementary school yes
152 S : what year are you in?
153 S : I am in year
154 S : sz
155 S : I am in year four
156 S : how many are there in your class?
157 S : there are twenty-five students in your in my class
158 S : who is your favourite singer?
159 S : my favourite singer is Tina Turner
160 T : Tina Turner? And what^
161 S : what’s your favourite subject?
162 S : my favourite subject is Art
163 T : art very good (xxxx) you are the reporter and you want to make report with^
164 S : Zoli
165 T : Zoli ok come here Robi and Zoltán come here (4.0) yes and take (4.0) just a minute
here is your microphone ((giving a piece of stick))
166 S : (xxxx)
167 T : yes please
168 S : what’s your name?
169 S : my name is Zoltán
170 T : what’s your^
171 S : what’s your family name?
172 S : my family name is (xxxx?)
173 T : yes that’s right good
174 S : what’s the name of your school?
175 S : my name of school is Kölcsey Ferenc
176 T : yes the name of my school is^
177 S : Kölcsey Ferenc
178 T : ok ok go on
179 S : ö what’s your favourite subject?
180 S : my favourite subject is (2.0) is
181 S : what’s your favourite subject?
182 S : my favourite subject is Science
183 T : Science
184 S : why?
185 T : why? ((laughter)) (2.0)
186 S : because because
187 S : ö
188 T : because
189 S : because (xxxx) vagy not?
190 Ss : nem tanuljuk
191 T : you do not learn it ok that is why you do not learn it that’s right ok next one
hányadik osztály ((teacher is whispering))
192 S : what’ your? what year are you in?
193 S : I’m in year? four
194 T : yes
195 S : how old are you?
196 S : I’m ten
197 T : I’m ten
198 T : who is your favourite singer?
199 S : who is your favourite singer?
200 S : my favourite singer is (xxxx)
201 T : ki? (xxxx) thank you thank you thank you
202 S : thank you Mister
203 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
204 T : that’s right thank you who Bernadett come please and who do you want to ask?
205 S : én már voltam
206 T : yes who wasn’t? yes Erna come please
207 S : hi
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209 S : my name is (xxxx)

210 T : what’s^ ((laughter from pupils)) what’s your^
211 S : what’s your first name?
T : that’s it
212 S : my first name is Erna
213 S : what’s your family name?
214 T : Bernadett
215 T : my family name is Xxxx
216 S : (3.0) ö how old are you?
217 T : yes
218 S : I’m eleven
219 S : miért? (2.0) ((and laughter))
220 T : Bálint türtıztesd magad
221 S : öm
222 T : yes please
223 S : öm
224 T : hányadikos vagy? (3.0) hogy kérdezzük? how do you ask? yes
225 S : what year are you in?
226 T : what year^
227 S : what year are you in?
228 S : I am in year four
229 T : ok
230 S : what is your favourite singer?
231 T : who is your favourite singer?
232 S : my favourite singer is (4.0)
233 T : na ne gondolkodj sokat
234 S : Prince
235 T : Prince ez nyilvánvaló ok
236 S : what is your favourite subject?
237 S : my favourite subject is (3.0)
238 T : Maths
239 S : Geography ((laughter))
240 T : is Maths
241 S : thank you bye
242 T : oh thank you bye yeah what is ö Bernadett you didn’t ask her about her town
country age and so on Levente come please do come please here and ask and ask
somebody
243 S : e come on Patrik
244 T : come on Patrik that’s right this is the last one ((laughter)) ok ((laughter)) yes ok
Robi jól van
245 S : kevertem ((pretending to use a tape recorder)) ))what’s your first name?
246 S : my first name is Patrik
247 S : what’s your family name?
248 S : my family name is Xxx ((laughter))
249 T : yes it’s not so please
250 S : ö what’s your favourite subject?
251 S : my favourite subject is Art
252 S : ö and what’s your fav who’s your favourite singer?
253 T : is^
254 S : Kylie Minogue
255 T : Kylie Minogue yes
256 S : what town and country are you from?
257 S : my town is Budapest and my country is Hungary
258 S : how old are you?
259 S : how old are you?
260 S : I’m ten
261 S : ö what year are you in?
262 T : I am^
263 S : I am in year four
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much now do you remember that we had some aa things here in our book about
objects what is this?
265 Ss : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
266 T : this is the (xxxx) and what is that? Margit? That is? (xxxx)
267 T : that is a^ a^ Robi that is a^
268 S : picture
269 T : that is a picture what are these? Peti?
270 S : this
271 T : these (4.0)
272 S : these are
273 T : yes repeat please
274 S : these are a
275 T : a^ once again these are
276 S : these are pens
277 T : pens once again Peti repeat please
278 S : these are pens
279 T : and those? what are those? who can tell me? Fanni what are those there? one two
three four
280 S : those
281 T : are^
282 S : are pictures
283 T : pictures posters pictures and so on yes I ask you to find these four words here and
write them on this sheet of paper yes this that these or those (3.0) ((turning pages in
book)) this that these or those yes (4.0) please write your name on the paper and
then you have only a five minutes for it five minutes Erna (4.0) start doing this
alone yes here Peti so add this that thee or those write your name on the paper
please this is Charles the next one (xxxx xxxx xxxx) yes (7.0) there are altogether
eight pictures (52.0) are you ready? Zita are you ready? yes Rea isn’t you?
284 S : yes
285 T : ok give it to me is your name there? thank you very much ready?
286 S : yes
287 T : thank you (8.0) who is still working? (7.0) ok Bernadett yes Levente (12.0) Zoltán
Levente Bernadett (xxxx) Robi are you ready? yes hát gyorsan yes thank you ok
thank you (xxxx) (10.0) yes kész vagy? are you ready? Margit are you ready?
(xxxx) Fanni thank you Dianna if you are ready please take pick that litter up and
put it into the litter bin thank you (3.0) Thank you Robi aa please write your name
(4.0) ok Bettina are you ready? Kin Margit Bettina (6.0) thank you (7.0) so is your
name there? Betti yes look at them if you want now (xxxx) open your exercise book
please your exercise book what is the lesson number can you tell me lesson number
I gave the one hundred and twenty-three (2.0) ((writing lesson number on the
board)) ))we are going to write some sentences where you have to put the verbs is
((writing on board)) isn’t ((writing on board)) are ((writing on board)) ))aren’t
((writing on board)) yes (3.0) yes I (55.0) ((teacher writing incomplete sentences on
the board)) yes complete these sentences quickly (((6.0))) so the first one I ... at
school now you ... at school too you ... at home now we ... students Tom ... a boy he
... a a girl (46.0) ready? (1.0)
288 S : (xxxx) lehet csinálni Kati néni?
289 T : igen de mindjár mondom fill in ugyanezt kell csak egyszer szeretném
ellenırizni I’d like to check these answers who is still writing? hands up Dia Csak
ı te yes now let me let us see what is the first one Robi
290 S : ı I’m I am
291 T : I am at school now the second one you^
292 S : you are
293 T : are at school too te is iskolában vagy Bernadett
294 S : ö you are at school now
295 T : yes that was you are at school now the third one
296 S : you aren’t
297 T : you aren’t at school now aren’t ((writing aren’t into the gap)) at school now at
home now we^ Margit
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299 T : we are students that’s right öm Dia

300 S : Tom is a boy
301 T : Tom is a boy és ugyancsak Tom-ra vonatkoztattam Peti
302 S : he isn’t a girl
303 T : he isn’t ((writing isn’t into the gap)) a girl that’s right yes now start your sheet of
paper there is the the the first aa fill in am is are am not is not vagy aren’t csak az
ötöst csináljátok gyorsan (13.0) Levente kész vagy? I am yes I am ready ki
nincsen még kész? who isn’t ready yet? kettı három négy igyekezzetek
304 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
305 T : nem az következı óra lesz számban is százhuszonnégy
306 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
307 T : Zita elvitték a naplót nem tudom neked most megmondani hirtelen de jövı
órán ellenırizzük jó? igen csak az ötöst kellett yes good now I’d like to read you
to read out the first one you Zoltán jó
308 S : ö
309 T : vagy we az elsı mondat
310 S : we (xxxx xxxx)
311 T : igen we^
312 S : vagy aren’t
313 T : my^ Zoltán
314 S : my favourite sport sport isn’t golf
315 T : golf that’s right isn’t golf mi ahogy akarod tessék következı
316 S : (xxxx xxxx)
317 T : zölddel kell javítani rend szerint Bálint yes Margit
318 S : ö (6.0)
319 T : pyramids
320 S : pyramids aren’ isn’t Paris they are in Kairo
321 T : Kairo pyramids what is a pyramid?
322 S : piramis
323 T : piramis hogy mondod? pyramid
324 S : pyramid
325 T : yes a szótárba mert ezzel nem találkoztunk még pyramid (6.0) ((writing on the
board and in the dictionary)) pyramid yes piramis pyramids aren’t in Paris they are
in Kairo Robi where’s this Kairo?
326 S : öm
327 T : can you tell me? yes yes
328 S : Egyipt ((stress on wrong syllable))
329 S : Egyipt ((wrong stress again))
330 T : Egypt
331 S : Egypt it’s in Egypt and Paris is in
332 S : France ((American way))
333 T : France Paris is in France (xxxx) and the pyramids are in Egypt in Kairo yes number
four Erna
334 S : I’m not from Spain I’m from Mexico
335 T : that’s right Bettina
336 S : it isn’t Saturday morning ((perhaps))
337 T : yes Zita
338 S : I’m not (xxxx) I’m (xxxx)
339 T : Margit (xxxx) Margit
340 S : the Taj Mahal
341 T : megint neked jutott hogy olvasod ki? Igen Taj Mahal Kingának jutott a
második földrajzi mondat Taj Mahalnak mondod Margit hogy?
342 S : Taj Mahal
343 T : igen Taj Mahal isn’t in Ottawa
344 S : isn’t in Ottawa it is in Aggra
T : it is in Aggra Indiában van Aggra nevő városban a Taj Mahal egy gyönyörő
szép emlékmő az egyik emlékmő sír egy maharadzsa építtette a feleségének
csodálatosan szép keleti mővészeti Aggra városában Aggra mellett van
tulajdonképpen egy hatalmas nagy várrom Indiában yes Bálint
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346 T : Sweden
347 S : Sweden
348 T : that’s right Bernadett
349 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
350 S : I’m not twenty-four years old I’m twenty-seven
351 T : I am twenty-seven that’s right igen
352 S : a Taj Mahal (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
353 T : nagyon ügyes vagy hogy tudod a Taj Mahal nem egy hotel a hotelt errıl az
emlékmőrıl nevezték el mint ahogy van The Four Seasons meg Hilton meg
mindenféle neve van a hoteleknek úgy Taj Mahal nevő hotel is van biztos
indiai érdekeltség? de eredetileg tehát ez egy micsoda? Egy emlékmő egy
síremléke az egyik maharadzsa feleségének akit nagyon szeretett a
maharadzsa és miután meghalt az emlékére építtetett egy ilyen templomszerő
hatalmas emlékmővet nagyon szép ilyen csipkézett majd hozok egy képet róla
yes that’s right a következı lesz a hetedik feladat ahol kérdéseket kell
alkotnotok write questions and answers as in the example are they policeman? no
they aren’t they are doctors ık nem rendırök hanem orvosok a kittens ugye
kismacskát jelent hogyan lesz Rea a kérdés? Are they^
354 S : are they kittens? yes
355 T : yes
356 S : there are they are they are kittens
357 T : yes they re they are kittens írjad Margit
358 S : (xxxx xxxx)
359 T : igen azért akarom hogy itt csináljuk ezt meg mert hogy rossz a fénymásolat yes
the second one lemon mi az a lemon? What is lemon?
360 S : ı citrom
361 T : citrom
362 S : hogy írják azt hogy kitten? ((perhaps))
363 T : oda kitten sz-szel a végén csak az s bető hiányzik a fénymá mondjad a hármast
Anna
364 S : ı
365 T : mit kell egy kérdés? kell saját kútfı yes please
366 S : ı
367 T : is it^
368 S : is it a lemon? no no it isn’t
369 T : it’s an^
370 S : it’s it’s it’s an apple
371 T : yes is it a lemon? pay attention ugye ez az örök hiba hogy it is a lemon ((writing
this sentence ont he board)) és akkor hogy is alakítunk ebbıl kérdést jól mondta
Anna is it mindig nagyon fontos hogy is it ((writing ont he board)) a lemon yes
tehát is-zel kezdem mindig ha kérdés van mert ez egy általános hiba hogy
mindig it is-t mondunk is it a lemon? No it isn’t it’s an apple the next one who
wants to ask the question number four yes mondjad Bernadett
372 S : ı
373 T : lawyer-nek mondjuk és ügyvédet jelent law nézd csak law Bernadett törvényt
jelent angolul lawyer ügyvéd (4.0) hogy kérdezitek hogy ı ügyvéd-e?
374 S : is it
375 T : nem is it
376 S : is is he
377 T : he pontosan is he a lawyer? ugyanígy he is ugye he is és is he a lawyer? is he a
lawyer?
378 S : no he isn’t
379 T : he is a barman barman láttad a sok üveget tehát egy bárban aki kiszolgálja a az
italokat üdítıket koktélokat yes tessék Erna
380 S : is she girl?
381 T : girls többes számban van és akkor nem jó az is hanem
382 S : are are she
383 T : are are
384 S : are
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386 T : no
387 Ss : are they
388 T : they nagyon fontos
389 S : are they
390 T : are they
391 S : are they a girl?
392 T : nem hány van ott? Girls are they girls? ık lányok? Are they girls?
393 S : yes they are
394 T : igen teljes mondattal
395 S : yes they are a girl
396 T : a girl?
397 S : they are girls
398 T : úgy van they are girls (5.0) they are girls yes következı Geni
399 S : is it a television? no it isn’t it is an umbrella
400 T : is it a television? no it isn’t it’s an umbrella nagyon jól mondtad (8.0) ok innen
folytatjuk a következı órán put your pencil down and pay attention figyelj rám a
nagyon gyorsan mondom I am Klára who are you?
401 S : I am Rea
402 T : are you Rea?
403 S : no I’m not I’m I’m Anna
404 T : is she Rea?
405 S : no no she isn’t is she
406 T : she is^
407 S : she is Fanni
408 T : Fanni we are students are you students?
409 S : yes I am
410 T : yes I am
411 T : are you a teacher?
412 S : no I’m not
413 T : is she a teacher? Zita is she a teacher?
414 S : no she no she isn’t
415 T : jól nézd meg no she no she^
416 S : yes she is
417 T : no she isn’t jól mondtad no she isn’t is he a teacher? Patrik
418 S : no he isn’t
419 T : no he isn’t is he a teacher? ((asking about the researcher))
420 S : no
421 T : I don’t know ask her kérdezd csak meg are you a^
422 S : are you a teacher?
423 R : yes I am
424 T : yes I am that’s right you are great a Geni I am a teacher who are you? or what are
you?
425 S : I am a student
426 T : I am a student is Zoli student? Fejezd be
427 S : yes yes he is
428 T : yes he is is Kriszta Krisztina a student?
429 S : no she isn’t
430 T : no she isn’t are we in the classroom?
431 S : yes
432 T : yes^
433 S : yes we are
434 T : are we at home?
435 S : no we aren’t
436 T : no we aren’t are your parents at home?
437 S : no no
438 T : parents what are who are the parents?
439 S : piramis
440 S : piramis
441 T : no parents
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443 T : szülık no they^

444 S : aren’t
445 T : no they aren’t are your parents at home?
446 S : no they aren’t
447 T : no they aren’t is your mom at home?
448 S : no she is
449 T : is no^ ((laughter))
450 S : no she isn’t
451 T : no she isn’t is your dad at home?
452 S : no he isn’t
453 T : are your grandparents at home?
454 S : no
455 T : they^
456 S : no they no they aren’t
457 T : no they^
458 S : aren’t
459 T : aren’t thank you bye bye see you at one ((as they are having another English lesson
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Lesson Marika 1

1 T : na how are you today?

2 S : I’m fine thank you
3 T : fine thank you how are you today?
4 S : I’m fine thank you
5 T : ok Móni what is your favourite animal?
6 S : ö ö parrot
7 S : parrot have you got a parrot at home?
8 S : yes
9 T : what colour is it? Have you got one or two parrots?
10 S : two
11 T : two a boy and a girl?
12 S : yes
13 T : and what colour are they?
14 S : one green and yellow
15 T : mhm
16 S : and one blue and (xxxx)
17 T : and how big are they?
18 S : ö ((showing the size with her hands)) (( ))
19 T : aha and ö do you keep them in a cage?
20 S : yes
21 T : mhm ok Miki have you got any animals at home? Have you got a pet?
22 S : dog
23 T : at home? A dog one or two?
24 S : one
25 T : one how big is it?
26 S : mm
27 T : show it with your hands aha and what colour is it? (3.0) what colour is it?
28 S : ö white and mm brown
29 T : and brown Piri have you got an animal at home?
30 S : yes ö one bird
31 T : one bird what kind of bird? A parrot?
32 S : a parrot
33 T : mhm what colour is it?
34 S : ö brown ö blue yellow ö orange ö white black
35 T : oh ((laughter from teacher))
36 S : red
37 T : mhm it can be very nice very beautiful ok Angi do you like cats?
38 S : yes
39 T : and how many cats have you got?
40 S : five
41 T : five cats oh my God ((smile again)) and what colour are they?
42 S : white and black (xxxx xxxx)
43 T : and what do they eat? What do they like?
44 S : they eat whiskers
45 T : whiskers ((smile)) ok na last lesson we learned a tale do you remember? It was
Martha and Mary in this tale what kind of animals were there in this tale do you
remember?
46 S : dog
47 T : mhm how many?
48 S : one
49 T : one dog good
50 S : one cat
51 T : good
52 S : and two mouse
53 T : mice two mice and what are the names of the mice?
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55 T : Mary and Martha yes ok I give you the pictures I tell the tale again and you have to
stick the pictures in the chronological order to the board ok? Choose one or two
pictures because there are I think 17 or 18 pictures kettıt is húzhatsz
56 S : lehet akkor kettıt is?
57 T : lehet ((whispering)) (11.0) choose two pictures not only one choose because there
are more pictures there you are (5.0) two (4.0) ok who is missing? Who is missing?
mhm ok there are two more
58 S : én még nem vettem
59 T : ok one (4.0) ((tale is coming)) she is a mouse her name is Martha she lives in the
country she has a lovely little house the house is by a little river near a field who
has got this picture? ok come here and stick (10.0) ((pupil coming and sticking the
picture))
60 T : (xxxx) she is a mouse too her name is Mary she doesn’t live in the country she lives
in the city she lives in a nice big house her house is in a busy street (3.0) Mary is
driving her car she is going to the country she is going to see Martha (2.0) ok (5.0)
Martha is very busy she is working in the kitchen she is making tea good ((pupil
found and stuck the picture)) (2.0) hello Martha dear it is nice to see you hello Mary
how are you fine thank you (8.0) ((another picture is stuck)) I don’t like nuts says
Mary in the city I eat cheese and salami every day oh really says Martha come and
see me one day Martha ok Martha is riding her bicycle she is going to the city she is
going to see Mary ok Martha is in the street in the city the streets are very busy
Martha doesn’t like cars taxis buses and big lorries (6.0) ((another picture stuck))
ok welcome to the city says Mary come in (4.0) ((the next picture is stuck)) good
Mary and Martha are running a big dog is running after them wow wow says the
dog (5.0) ((next picture)) ok
61 S : cat
62 T : cat yes they are running and the cat is running after them (6.0) oh mummy I don’t
like cats I hate cats I am very much afraid of cats says Martha never mind she
always runs after me (4.0) ((picture found)) here here you are (2.0) ok I am sorry
I’m going home good bye Mary bye bye Martha (3.0) ok who has got this picture?
(4.0) ((picture is brought to the teacher)) ok Martha is riding her bicycle and she is
going home she is going to the country good (2.0) Vigyázz Pirikém (4.0) ok and the
last one Martha is at home she is drinking tea she is happy and she is in her kitchen
(4.0) ok na what’s this? Piri this is a^
63 S : camera
64 T : camera we are going to take photos I tell you at first only words and you have to
take some photos yes ok city city Piri here you are (4.0) good ok take a photo ok
(3.0) ((photo is taken)) ok river river Móni here you are (5.0) mhm lorry lorry Ági
(7.0) ok thank you nuts nuts ok Máté (17.0) ok Móni no no no it’s it’s not nuts (2.0)
yes you are right what does it mean in Hungarian? nut what does it mean in
Hungarian? (3.0) hm? what’s this? it’s brown and small and it’s very hard what’s
this? it’s not sweet mogyoró open your dictionary and write down (13.0) ((pupils
writing in the dictionary and the teacher on the board from)) Angi do you like nuts?
65 S : yes
66 T : just like Nutella yes nut the third first word (4.0) ok Miki salami (6.0) good ok sad
sad Angi (6.0) yes you are right ok kitchen kitchen kitchen Piri kitchen (xxxx)
dobd el légy szíves (6.0) yes you are right ok thank you na I tell you sentences and
you have to run to the right place you can see here the cat you can see there Mary
the dog and Martha ezt pakoljuk el ok ok stand up please and I tell you sentences
ok mehet? Hogy ne találjátok ki hogy mirıl is van szó mindegyik elıtt he-t
fogok mondani azért hogy nehogy segítsek nektek véletlenül se jó? tehát he he
likes mice he likes mice (3.0) ((pupils are running)) he likes mice (2.0) ((pupil at
the right place)) yes you are right ok he he is driving her car (6.0) ((pupils running))
ok which is which? what’s her name and what’s her name? Mhm she is
67 S : Martha
68 T : Martha and she is^
69 S : Mary
70 T : Mary so he is driving her car what’s the correct name? (2.0) ok (3.0) he is running
after the mice and^
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72 T : yes you are right the dog and the cat ok he lives in the country he lives in the
country (4.0) ((pupils running)) ok it’s not good who lives in the country?
73 S : Martha
74 T : Martha ok he lives in the city (6.0) ((pupils running)) very good ok Mary the dog
and the cat yes you are right ok he likes nuts (2.0) ((pupils running)) he likes nuts
(4.0) na ok he likes cheese ((pupils start running instantly)) he likes cheese (4.0) the
cat no a cat the dog?
75 T : no ok he is riding her bicycle ((instant running and laughter)) he is riding her
bicycle (2.0) ok who? who?
76 S : Martha
77 T : come here around here ok sit down please and last lesson we used some words do
you remember? never^
78 Ss : sometimes
79 T : sometimes^
80 Ss : often
81 T : often^
82 S usually
83 Ss : usually
84 T : usually and^
85 S : always
86 T : always ok stand up please and tell with me these words and show it csak maradj a
helyeden nem kell idejönni ok ((showing it by hand))
87 S : never
88 T& : never
Ss
89 T& : sometimes
Ss
90 Ss : often
91 T& : usually always
s
92 T : ok let’s start from the top
93 T& : always usually often sometimes never
Ss
94 T : ok sit down and let’s see your homework you had to complete the sentences with
the names ok let’s take your red pencil open your exercise book and (2.0) open your
exercise book and let’s check your homework where is your exercise book? Where
is your homework?
95 S : füzetbe van
96 S : füzetbe van és otthon hagytam
97 T : ok no let’s start Piri
98 S : magyarul is el kell olvasni?
99 T : nem kell magyarul elismételni olvasd a mondatokat
100 S : (xxxx) is ö (5.0)
101 T : olvasd
102 S : én?
103 T : na na Móni
104 S : Martha is small house Mary is big house Mary goes to the Martha house in car
105 T : Peti ti mit olvastok? (4.0) jó ezt nézzük jó amit még órán csináltuk és ne akkor
elnézést azt hittem hogy ı az is házi feladat volt de órán csináltátok
emlékezzetek vissza ı ezeket a mondatokat írtuk és ı személyt vagy állatot
kellett eléírni úgyhogy ezt nézzük meg erre vagyok kíváncsi jó Zoli
106 S : always stays in warm house
107 T : ok who?
108 S : (xxxx)
109 T : yes you are right ok the second one
110 S : usually (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
111 T : who?
112 S : Martha
113 T : Martha good ok the next one
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115 T : who?
116 S : Mary
117 T : Mary good
118 S : never eats nuts Mary
119 T : Mary ok go on ö Soma
120 S : sometimes goes to the city Martha
121 T : Martha good
122 S : always runs
123 T& : after Mary
Ss
124 T : the cat or^
125 S : dog
126 T : the dog
127 S : often drives her car Mary
128 T : Mary (4.0) ok ennyi volt ugye? jó mi volt mára a házi feladat? Angi?
129 S : hát mondatot kellett írni
130 T : errıl a történetrıl na ok let’s see your sentences
131 S : Martha is small house
132 T : is is not correct Martha neki van Martha
133 S : has
134 T : has
135 S : has got a small
136 T : a small
137 S : house
138 T : house ok ö Piri yes ok Piri (4.0) Máté
139 S : Mary driving a car to Martha
140 T : ok ö Mary is
141 S : driving a car
142 T : her car to Martha ok Zoli
143 S : Martha vagy Mary lives in a big house
144 T : in a big house good Zoli
145 S : (xxxx)
146 T : ok Soma
147 S : ö (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
148 T : Móni
149 S : ö Martha doesn’t like big lorry but is (xxxx)
150 T : very good ok Piri
151 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
152 T : ok go on Angi
153 S : Martha (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
154 T : ok na close your exercise book and I write down some sentences and ö you have to
stick them to the right picture who says and when ok Zoli read out please
155 S : I am sorry I am going home
156 T : I am sorry I am going home who says and when? Piri who says this sentence? (3.0)
who says? (2.0)((student pointing at the board)) a tábla who says?
157 S : ö
158 T : Mary Martha the dog or the cat cssss who says? Soma hm
159 S : Martha
160 T : Martha yes ok the next one Piri read it out please
161 S : what is that it is not cheese or salami
162 T : ok what is that it is not cheese or salami who says this sentence?
163 S : Martha
164 T : ok stick it on the right picture ok the next one Miki (2.0) Miki
165 S : ö I (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
166 T : ok it’s not correct ok correct it? Angi correct it please (3.0) ok Piri read it out
167 S : I am afraid of dogs
168 T : I am afraid of dogs
169 S : ö Ma
170 T : ok
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172 T : Martha yes you are right ok stick it on the right place ok the next one Máté
173 S : wow wow
174 T : who says this one? (3.0) hm?
175 S : dog
176 T : the dog (4.0) ok the next one Zoli
177 S : welcome to the city
178 T : who says this one? (9.0) ok who says this one? Vedd már légy szíves föl mhm who
says this one? welcome to the city (2.0) Martha or Mary? Martha? no who says this
one? Miki
179 S : Mary
180 T : Mary ok Zoli come here and stick it on the right place (3.0) ok the next one Ági
read it out
181 S : I don’t like nuts
182 T : who says?
183 S : m Mary
184 T : Mary yes right Mary? yes you are right Mary Mary yes ok I don’t like nuts yes you
are right ok stick it on the right place (2.0) ok (2.0) Móni read it out
185 S : it is nice to see you
186 T : it is nice to see you ok who says this one?
187 S : (xxxx xxxx)
188 T : mindjárt megnézzük Ágika ok who says this one? (2.0) it is nice to see you (4.0)
mhm na who has got an idea it’s nice to see you nobody (4.0)
189 S : Martha
190 T : Martha ok? Martha can say it and and Mary can say it when? when? Móni (4.0) yes
you are right ok the next one Zoli
191 S : come and meet me
192 T : see me come and see me
193 S : one day
194 T : one day come and see me one day ok who says and when Piri (19.0) ok now let’s
see the sentence and there are some mistakes let’s find the mistakes it is nice to see
you is it correct what do you think Piri is it correct? Yes ok there are two one I
don’t like nuts is it correct Máté? yes welcome to the city
195 S : correct
196 T : are they in the city? Are they in the city? no ok Piri (4.0) yes you are right welcome
what does it mean? Welcome to the city
197 S : üdvözöllek a városban
198 T : üdvözöllek így van isten hozott üdvözöllek a városba ok I am afraid of dogs is it
correct? yes wow wow is it correct? Yes what is that it is not cheese or salami Ági
is it good? ok come and see me one day they are running in front of the ö cat can
they talk to each other no (3.0) come and see me one day fordítsuk le ezt a
mondatot Soma
199 S : ı gyere és ö (4.0)
200 T : and see me one day gyere és látogass meg nézz nézz meg ez nem magyaros gyere
és látogass meg ok come here and put ö to the right place I’m sorry I’m going
home is it correct Piri?
201 S : correct
202 T : correct ok (13.0) yes you are right ok open your exercise book and open your
dictionary we are learning a new word félni valamitıl I am afraid of dogs (4.0)
((writing on board)) to be afraid of félni valamitıl vagy valakitıl and open your
exercise book today is lesson ninety-one nincs idı most naplót írkálni Pirikém
lesson neked sincs idıd ninety-one (18.0) ok mindentıl félhet az ember de most
próbáljunk csak állatokra gondolni én félek valamitıl akkor ı írjuk le a
példamondatokat I am afraid of ((writing it on the board)) (6.0) magyarul is úgy
mondjuk hogy félek mondjuk a kígyóktól nem egy kígyótól félek hanem
általában a kígyóktól félek úgyhogy többes számot használunk I am afraid of
snakes ((writing snakes on the board)) (3.0) I am afraid of snakes so this is a
positive sentence and it’s in negative nem félek hogy fogjuk tagadni? Máté
203 S : I am I am
204 S : I am not^
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206 S : afraid of snakes

207 T : I am not afraid of snakes(( ((writing the sentence on the board)) ))it is a negative
one (4.0) az állatok viszont egymástól is félhetnek (2.0) így van hiszen nagyon
sok ragadozó állat van ekkor viszont többes számba használjuk mondjuk az
egerek félnek a macskáktól jó? First let’s see the positive mice ((writing on the
board)) egerek miután többen vannak ezért a létigét is többes számba kell
tennünk mice are afraid of cats ((writing sentence on the board)) this is a positive
one mondjuk írjuk egy olyat hogy az oroszlánok nem félnek a tigrisektılnem is
élnek ugye egy helyen ugyhogy nem is tudnának félni egymástól so lions aren’t
afraid of tigers ((writing sentence on the board)) (8.0) of tigers no there are some
animals in these cards ok and let’ choose two animals and let’s try to find the
correct sentence positive or negative Ági choose two animals please ok what are
these animals? Read it out
208 S : horse
209 T : horses and
210 S : dogs
211 T : and dogs ok come here come here (5.0) na let’s see them where can you put these
animals? here there or here there (4.0) ok put put there here?
212 S : no
213 T : no no here here here? (3.0) na ok és a másikat? (3.0) másikat hova tesszük? Ide
ok read out the sentence
214 S : dogs are af afraid of horse
215 T : of horses is it true? Is it true? Translate it Ági translate it
216 S : dogs
217 T : o translate it into Hungarian
218 S : kutya a kutyák félnek
219 T : félnek
220 S : a lótól
221 T : is it true?
222 Ss : no
223 T : no no ok javítsd légy szíves hova kell tennünk?(2.0) ok read out this sentence
224 S : dogs aren’t afraid of horses
225 T : ok write it down dogs aren’t afraid of hourses
írjuk le gyorsan dogs aren’t afraid of horses no I’m shuffling my cards (5.0)
((shuffling taking place)) Piri choose two animals hol a füzeted?
226 S : nincsen füzetem
227 T : és miért a könyvedbe írsz? könyvbe írni
228 S : hamsters ö
229 T : hamsters and^
230 S : mice
231 T : mice hamsters and mice ok go there (5.0)
232 S : mice (3.0)
233 T : is it true?
234 S : jaj nem
235 T : yes yes is ö is it true? Egyszer volt egy ı terrárium há nem is egy üvegbe
tartottam hörcsögöket meg egereket és ı valahogy összekerültek és képzeljétek
el a hörcsög az leharapta az egérnek a farkát úgyhogy olyan túl nagy
barátságba nincsenek meg annyira nem nagyon ö szeretik egymást hát most
hogy ki kitıl fél szerintem miután az egér az kisebb mint egy hörcsög
valószínőleg ı fél a hörcsögtıl úgyhogy maradjunk ebben ok?
236 T& : mice^
S
237 S : are afraid of
238 T : of^
239 S : hamsters
240 T : hamsters ok write it down write it down hamsters hörcsög ok write it down
241 S : az egér
242 T : egerek
243 S : az egerek félnek a hörcsögöktıl
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animals (4.0) aha what are these animals?

245 S : lion and horse
246 T : lions and horses (10.0) gyorsan ((wispering to the pupil/s)) aha ok I help you ok
read it out
247 S : horse are
248 T : horses
249 S : horses are afr
250 T : afraid
251 S : afraid of lions
252 T : ok translate it
253 S : a lovak félnek az oroszlántól
254 T : az oroszlánoktól írjuk le horses are afraid of lions (9.0) the last one Zoli (5.0)
255 S : spiders
256 T : spiders and^
257 S : rabbits
258 T : rabbits ((collective smile)) (8.0) spiders and rabbits ok read it out
259 S : rabbits aren’t afraid of spiders
260 T : ok translate it
261 S : a nyulak nem félnek a pók
262 T : pókoktól write it down ok go ok ready? Rabbits aren’t afraid of spiders (3.0) your
homework you have to write down this kind of sentences use are afraid of aren’t
afraid of I am afraid of and I am not afraid of egy-egy dolgot írjál amitıl félsz
amitıl te nem félsz és ilyenre állatokat válogass össze és mind a két típusú ı
mondatra keress hármat- hármat tehát összesen nyolc mondatot kell leírnod
(4.0) na we are going to we are going to learn a song ok so cose everything and let’s
li ö listen it at first
263 C : ((song from tape)) who is afraid of big black spiders?
264 T : ok have you heard it?
265 S : big black
266 T : big black spiders who is afraid of a big black spider?
267 C : who’s afraid of big black spiders big black spiders big black spiders who’s afraid of
big black spiders me me me me me I’ not afraid of big black spiders big black
spiders big black spiders I’m not afraid of big black spiders no no no not me
268 T : na it’s very simple (8.0) ((teacher rewinding tape to the song while a pupils trying
to sing it for a while))
269 C : who’s afraid of bid black spiders?
270 T : ok try to sing the cassette
271 C& : who’s afraid of big black spiders big black spiders big black spiders big black
Ss spiders who’s afraid of big black spiders m eme m eme me
272 T : jó még egyszer énekeljétek figyelj
273 C& : who’s afraid of big black spiders big black spiders big black spiders big black
Ss spiders who’s afraid of big black spiders m eme m eme me I’m not afraid of big
black spiders big black spiders big black spiders I’m not afraid of big black spiders
no no no not me
274 T : elénekeljük még egyszer?
275 Ss : igen
276 T : jó (4.0)
277 C : who’s afraid of big black spiders
278 C& : who’s afraid of big black spiders big black spiders big black spiders big black
Ss spiders who’s afraid of big black spiders m eme m eme me I’m not afraid of big
black spiders big black spiders big black spiders I’m not afraid of big black spiders
no no no not me
279 T : jó gyerekek jövı héten ugye kedden nincs tanítás nem lesz angolóra
csütörtökön viszont meg kell írnunk egy központi dolgozatot
280 S : az mi?
281 T : az egy szövegértı dolgozat lesz és ı meg kell csinálnunk csütörtökön jó?
úgyhogy úgy készüljetek hogy ne is hozzatok semmi felszerelést csütörtökre
lapot kaptok és akkor
282 S : ebbıl a szövegbıl?
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284 S : és (xxxx xxxx)

285 T : igen
286 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx) ((students are getting anxious about getting a mark for the
test, they are not sure if they will have to revise something before the following
lesson?
287 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx?)
288 T : nem nem nem fogom leosztályozni nem fogom leosztályozni csak

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Lesson Marika 2

1 R : ((she is talking about kilt and students are listening))

2 T : na akkor most valamit mutassunk is how are you today Máté?
3 S : I’m fine thank you
4 T : fine thank you today we are going to read a new story a new episode from our story
open your book and (2.0)
5 S : ((students are chatting))
6 T : what’s the matter? (3.0) xxxx üljél le (2.0) who are the main character in this story?
7 S : Blue Bird (xxxx)
8 T : Blue Bird (xxxx) and who are they?
9 S : Professor Brain
10 T : good
11 S : Captain Shadow
12 T : (xxxx) Shadow Piri Piri
13 S : öööö
14 T : figyelj légy szíves Móni
15 S : Dr Brain (xxxx xxxx) and Buby
16 T : how many children are there in this story Piri? how many children are this story not in
this episode in the whole story
17 S : (xxxx)
18 T : nem ez volt a kérdés how many children are in this story? (3.0) what are their names?
19 S : Poppy Woody and Bean
20 T : Poppy Woody and Bean good who are the positive positive characters? and who are the
negative the bad men who are the good men?
21 S : Poppy Woody (xxxx)
22 T : harmadjára szólok rád két percen belül
23 S : Poppy Woody Captain Shadow the bad man is Professor Brain
24 T : okay who are not very good man? Soma
25 S : Professor Brain and (xxxx)
26 T : okay why is Professor Brain bad? why isn’t he good? (2.0) hm? Móni nono why? miért?
why is Professor Brain is bad? hm? (2.0) what has he got? in his little black book? what
kind of plan?
27 S : (xxxx xxxx)
28 T : ühüm who?
29 S : Bluebird Sisters
30 T : Bluebird and?
31 S : single (xxxx)
32 T : single (xxxx)
33 S : (xxxx)
34 T : (xxxx) good and what ööö the pro what does Professor Brain want to get? (3.0)
35 S : money
36 T : money what is the money in the USA? in the story what is the money? what kind of
money? hm (5.0) american american Soma
37 S : dollar
38 T : what colour is the american dollar?
39 S : green
40 T : green okey let’s see this story let’s see first the places where are they in this picture and
where are they in those picure? Angi where are they in this picture? (2.0) where are they?
which place? (2.0) Zoli
41 S : (xxxx)
42 T : no no no no where where the name of the building the name of the street the name of the
hotel where are they?
43 S : Wall Street Hotel
44 T : where is this hotel? Katica in which city?
45 S : New York
46 T : New York and what we know about New York? is it a big city or a small city? Zoli
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48 T : why? what are the buildings like in New York? (5.0) ühüm how it is in English? they are
very high high
49 S : tall
50 T : and very tall yes you are right now (2.0) let’s see the first picutre who is it man Máté
who is it man at the table? (4.0) professor
51 S : Brain
52 T : what is he doing? Móni what is he doing in the picture?
53 S : ööö (4.0)
54 T : Zoli what is he doing in this picure?
55 S : (xxxx) (3.0)
56 T : yes what is he doing? he is writing okay open (( )) your dictionary and write down
becuase it’s a new (( )) word (11.0) (((students)) ((are opening their dictonary))) to write
(3.0) Angi what does it mean in Hungarian? to write
57 S : írni
58 T : írni (5.0) what is the opposite of it? olvasni hogyan van Soma? (3.0)
59 S : read
60 T : Read fölírjuk to (2.0) read olvasni so Professor Brain is writing something into his little
black book what is in this little black book it’s an important thing what is in it
61 S : name
62 T : name and there are some other name do you remember Athen London there are some
information in this ühüm okay and two women in picture number three who are they?
Katica do you remember their name? they are same
63 S : twin girls
64 T : and what are their name? do you remember?
65 S : Bluebird sisters
66 T : Bluebird sisters okay now let’s see picture number four who is it women? who is it
women? Móni
67 S : (xxxx)
68 T : who is it women?
69 S : Professor Brain friend
70 T : Brain’s friend okay and (3.0) what is in his in her hand? Móni
71 S : K thirteen
72 T : K thirteen what colour is K thirteen? Piri what colour is K thirteen?
73 S : öö (5.0)
74 T : what colour is K thirteen?
75 S : blue
76 T : blue okay and what is in this cup? what they do you think?
77 S : coffee
78 T : coffee yes okay and if you look at the picture number five there are two waitresses what
colour are their clothes? (2.0) Ági (3.0) what colour are the waitresses’ clothes?
79 S : red and white
80 T : yes it’s a uniforn it’s a uniform in this hotel in this cafe okay is there an animal in this
story? Is there an animal in this story? Zoli
81 S : Pluto
82 T : and what kind of animal is Pluto?
83 S : dog
84 T : it’s a dog good can you see any cars (2.0) in this pictures? can you see any cars in the
pictures? Máté
85 S : (xxxx)
86 T : can you see any cars? yes or no?
87 S : yes
88 T : yes I (3.0)
89 S : yes I can
90 T : good what colour is this car?
91 S : black
92 T : it’s black okay and what is it? what kind of vehicle?
93 S : motorbike
94 T : it’s a motorbike and who is sitting on this motorbike? Soma
95 S : Captain Shadow
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words in the story? okay?

97 C : casette section forty-one ((music)) The Bluebird sisters at the Wall Street Hotel yes sir? a
cup of coffee please the sisters are coming now professor good have you got the K
thirteen? some cake with honey please and some coffee please some coffee and some K
thrirteen ha ha oh I don’t like this coffee hey look at your hands I think we can help you
Sir can you help please? oh yes I can help you come with me they are leaving now can
you fallow them Bean? yes Captain I think they are going to the professor’s appartment
Captain and Poppy is watching the appartment okay let’s go
98 T : now we are going to read and translate it Soma could you start reading please?
99 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
100 T : okay go on
101 S : yes sir (3.0)
102 T : sir what does it mean sir? uram okay igen uram
103 S : A cup of coffee please
104 T : okay cup means (2.0) csésze write it down (5.0) the cup of coffee csésze kávé (5.0) okay
picture number two Piri
105 S : the sisters
106 T : sisters ((corrects the pronounciation))
107 S : the sisters are coming now professor good have you got the K thirteen? a testvérek
megjöttek most professzor
108 T : most jönnek most jönnek okay
109 S : jó öö itt van a Ká tizenhárom?
110 T : így van nálad van? great Ági number three
111 S : some cake with honey please and some coffee please
112 T : okay (10.0)
113 S : mézes tortát
114 T : ühüm jó a cake az sütemény is lehet ilyen apró sütemény is
115 S : kérek szépen és egy kávét
116 T : yes you are right Angi
117 S : some coffe and some K thirteen haha (3.0) kávé
118 T : egy kis kávé
119 S : és egy kis Ká tizenhárom
120 T : okay Móni
121 S : oh I do not like this coffee look at your hand oh nem szertem ezt a kávét nézd a a (3.0)
kezedet
122 T : okay picture number six Zoli
123 S : I think we can help you sir can you help please? oh yes I can help you come with me
124 S : segíthetek uram?
125 T : segíthetek? okay I think okay write it down (8.0) ja rosszat írok hülyeséget szerintem
úgy gondolom (15.0)
126 S : szerintem segítek
127 T : segíthetünk
128 S : segíthetünk uram?
129 T : Ühüm (7.0) can you help please? kérem segítsen okay go on
130 S : oh igen segítünk segítek neked
131 T : segíthetek neked come with me
132 S : gyere velem
133 T : gyere velem Zoli picture number seven
134 S : they are leaving now can you fallow them Bean? yes captain (10.0)
135 T : okay Zoli look at me I am leaving I am leaving the room I’m leaving the room ((she is
acting the)) ((expression)) na so what are they doing? ık elmennek most okay go on
(7.0) follow what does it mean? follow him? (3.0) követni
136 S : kövessük ıket
137 T : aha tudod követni ıket Bean? okay Soma go on
138 S : I think they are going to the professor’s appartment and Poppy is watching the
appartment okey let’s go és úgy gondolom a professzor lakásába mennek és Poppy
figyeli a lakást
139 T : ühüm keresı olvasás lesz figyelj coming coming (4.0) okay where is that? (4.0) no are
you sleeping? Good morning really Móni
140 S : the sisters are coming now professor

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141 T : coffee Angi

142 S : some cake and coffee please
143 T : okey Máté
144 S : a cup of coffee please
145 T : Zoli
146 S : some coffee and some cake
147 T : Piri
148 S : oh I don’t like this coffee
149 T : okay leaving leaving Piri
150 S : they are leaving now
151 T : ühüm help Katica
152 S : I think you can help me
153 T : okay sir Ági
154 S : can you help me?
155 T : okay Piri
156 S : oh yes I can help you come with me
157 T : watching watching Piri (4.0) Ági
158 S : Poppy is watching the appartment appartment
159 T : okay now so read again the new words write
160 Ss : write
161 T : read
162 Ss : read
163 T : cup
164 Ss : cup
165 T : a cup of coffee
166 Ss : acup of coffee
167 T : I think
168 Ss : I think
169 T : és amire nem emlékeztetek
170 Ss : leave
171 T : mit is jelent? Katica
172 S : elhagy
173 T : okay follow
174 Ss : follow
175 T : mit jelent Angi?
176 S : követni
177 T : követni okay now we are making a coffe in the room at first you are going to work in
group and (4.0) ((students are chatting)) nem tudtam hogy oviban vagyunk (4.0) and
you are going to make a menu what can you drink or what can you eat in a cofe?
178 S : coffee
179 T : what else?
180 S : coke
181 T : ühüm
182 S : lemonade
183 T : lemonade lemonade
184 S : juice orange juice
185 T : orange juice and tea for example can you drink tea in a cafe? yes of course what can you
eat in a coffee? Ági
186 S : ice-cream chocoleate ice-cream
187 T : okay many different ice-cream and what else?
188 S : cake
189 T : cake and I think you can eat sandwiches sandwiches so write you don’t have to draw you
write a name of these drink and food okay ? and you write down drinks food and write
down the name and you write here menu okay there are one two three (2.0) four sheets
you are going to work in four groups okay one two three four Zoli you are one two three
four one two three okay who heard one come here you are group number one who heard
two number two you are group number two come here and you are going to work
together and who heard number three come here and you work here together so group
number one two three and four you are there okay who is number one? Who heard
number one? okay come here you are working here (4.0) ((students are chatting))

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gyerekek piacon vagyunk? number two you are working here (2.0) number three you
are working here (3.0) and four you are working here jó visszaülünk még egyszer
elmondom a számokat one two three four one two three four one two three ((the
students are chatting about who belongs where)) oda leteszem a lapokat (4.0) gyerekek
háromig számolok és mindenki a csoportjához megy egy kettı három négy nem
neked adtam azt mondtam hogy aki a négyest hallotta odamegy Zolikám te
hányasba vagy?
190 S : kettesbe
191 T : hát akkor itt a helyed a Zoli mellett hol itt a gond? tessék na lehet dolgozni okay you
have got ( 3.0) four or five minutes and work together (3.0) ühüm ((students are still
chatting loudly)) ühüm menu write your menu ((students start to work in groups)) (21.0)
now you have to write the name (xxxx) you don’t have to draw (22.0) not foot food ((she
correts the spelling)) (16.0) okay ühüm for example you can drink tea for example
(17.0) ((students are asking questions while they are working)) most nem nézzük a
helyesírást a food-nál? hmm végül is miért ne? (32.0) now you have got two minutes
so hurry up please (64.0) ((the teacher corrects some spelling)) s-sel van és a-val (19.0)
er a dupla vé bé a er er ((the teacher is spelling in Hungarian)) ))now so time is up
because the time is running the time is always running so go back to your place give me
the menu please okay sit down sit down back to your place okay (5.0) jó mindenki
gyorsan visszaül a helyére és máris játszunk now the cofe is here and(7.0) iderakjuk
eléd hogy jól halljad jó? Now ööö there will be two custumers and one waiter or one
waitress okay let’s see the first (xxxx) (4.0) now ki szeretné elkezdeni?
192 Ss : én én
193 T : Ági what would you like to be? custumer or waiter waitress
194 S : waitress
195 T : okay waitress Ági you are the waitress and the costumers are ööö kicsit vegyesen
leszünk jó mert hogy kevés fiú van okay Máté you are one costumer and Móni choose
one menu okay now do you remember do you remember the sentences? (xxxx) na
megnézzük mire emlékeztek? okay go there
196 S : ((the sudents start to play)) (xxxx) what you want? (xxxx) (19: 0) I want
197 T : chocolate cake
198 S : chocolate cake and one coffee
199 T : a cup of
200 S : a cup of coffee I want chocolate cake and (xxxx) cake and ööö cup of coffee and coke
201 T : Angi miért dícsérnéd meg ıket?
202 S : (xxxx xxxx)
203 T : igen jó hogyan használták a mondatokat? Zoli kérdések hogy mentek? válaszok
hogy mentek? rendelés hogy ment?
204 S : jól
205 T : jól öö egy azért kimaradt (4.0) Piri
206 S : (xxxx xxxx)
207 T : így van illetve mikor adtad a menüt akkor here you are akkor is ügyesek jó azt nem
hallottam elnézést jó csücs vissza jön a következı kör jó Piri what would you like to
be what would you like to be customer or waitress
208 S : waitress
209 T : waitress okay Piri you are the waitress Zoli come here you are customer and choose
somebody choose somebody to be your partner
210 S : Far Piri
211 T : Far Piri okay (8.0)
212 S : öö good morning
213 S : good morning
214 T : Ági
215 S : can I halp you?
216 S : yes please can I have the menu?
217 S : what do you want?
218 S : I want (10.0) a cup of coffee and (7.0) chocolate cake
219 S : I want cake and strawberry cake (4.0)
220 S : here you are
221 T : Máté hogy volt? hogy ment? mit gondolsz róla? hogy ment? ügyesek voltak?
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222 S : igen
223 T : nagyon ügyesek voltatok mehettek a helyetekre következı kör jön Katica what
would you like to be? customer or a waitress?gyerekek olyan ovis módon viselkedtek
what would you like to be a waitress or a customer? shh majd ı eldönti elég nagy hozzá
okay Soma you are a customer choose a partner choose somebody
224 S : Zoli
225 T : Zoli okay tessék? hát azt mondtad nem azt mondtad? nahát akkor okay choose one
menu (7.0)
226 S : good morning (5.0) (xxxx xxxx) I want coffee and (7.0) banana cake and lemonade (3.0)
227 S : here you are
228 S : thanks
229 T : okay Piri
230 S : öö jó volt
231 T : jó volt ügyesek voltatok na utolsó körben ki nem volt még? akkor Piri what would
you like to be the waitress or the customer?
232 S : customer
233 T : okay sit down choose somebody to be your partner (3.0) Angi játszottál már?
234 S : nem
235 T : akkor légy szíves menjél ki nem játszott még? egyáltalán nem (3.0) jó akkor jó
akkor egy valakire egy valakire mégegyszer rákerül a sor Zoli légy szíves okay
choose one menu
236 S : can I help you? (xxxx xxxx) (15.0)
237 T : és akkor nem rendelhetsz elıször?
238 S : I want a (xxxx) and can I have a (xxxx) (4.0) cake and cup of coffee and banana cake
((the break)) ((signal starts)) (4.0)
239 S : here you are
240 T : very good very good thank you házi feladat a következı lesz (3.0) a kövekbıl
rendelést illetve ezt a párbeszédet tessék? de ebbıl a szövegbıl szépen kiírjátok
azokat a buborékokat ami rendelés jó? jövı hétre lesz majd egy kis rajzbeli
munkád Pirikém befejeznéd? ez az hogy ötödik óra és péntek ugye hogy látszik a
különbség Kriszti?
241 R : mindenki elfáradt
242 T : mindenki jó legyetek szívesek ezt már jövı hétre elıre elkészíthetitek jövı héten a
tantárgyakat fogjuk tanulni meg a napokat hogy egy kicsit haladjunk és hogy most
ha most sok idıtök lesz de máris mondom hogy csütörtökön fogunk ezzel
foglalkozni csütörtökre legyetek csinálhatsz egy szívesek ilyen kis kártyákra a
tantárgyaknak egy-egy rajzát megcsinálni például ha tesi óra akkor csinálhatsz egy
labdát vagy csinálhatsz egy bordásfalat hozzá jó? ha matek óra akkor csinálhatsz
egy valami nem kellenek bonyolult nehogy valami bonyolult dolgot csináljatok
legyetek szívesek ezeket a kis kártyákat betenni egy borítékba jó? és csütörtökre
fogom kérni azért szólok jó elıre hogy ö legyen e idıtök elkészíteni tessék?
243 S : Mary néni én nem leszek itt szerdán csütörtök pénteken
244 T : mert
245 S : három napos (xxxx)
246 T : más megy?
247 S : igen én nem jövök pénteken
248 T : de ez csütörtökre kell (xxxx)-kém jó? tehát akkor két házi feladatot kaptok az egyik
kiírni a szövegbıl azt a részt ami rendelés a másik pedig legyetek szívesek kis
kártyára megcsinálni jó Kriszti még lehet hogy kérdezni akar tıletek még ne
pakoljatok legyetek szívesek
249 R : inkább kérdezzetek ti
250 Ss : jó jó

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Lesson Piroska 1

1 T : good morning
2 S : good morning
3 T : Rena please
4 S : today is Thursday nobody is absent
5 T : thank you sit down (8.0) ((children sitting down in the first four seconds))
6 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx ) ((she had no homework))
7 T : Katika mínusz ok what was the homework Klau
8 S : nem volt
9 S : nem volt
10 Ss : nem
11 S : mert Judit nénivel vettük
12 T : really? and the lesson before és az elıtte lévı órán?
13 Ss : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
14 T : aha
15 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
16 T : aha (5.0) so you have to write six questions and six answers about the timetable
who hasn’t got the homework kinek nincs meg a házija attól hogy ezt két nappal
ezelıtt adtam attól még kész kell legyen (2.0) ok ok very good örülök hogy kész
jó eee let’s check your homework quickly please read a question Ili please
17 S : which lessons do you have on Monday?
18 T : answer
19 S : on Monday I have Maths English Geography ((bad pronunciation))
20 T : Geography
21 S : Geography Computer (xxxx)
22 T : ı (2.0) így is jó de óránként is hallgassunk meg egy óránkéntit János
23 S : which lessons do you have on Monday at 12:00?
24 T : yes ok
25 S : English
26 T : yes very good Laura please
27 S : which lesson do you have on Wednesday at 9:00 on Wednesday is History (2.0)
28 T : nem kell a Wednesday History történelem History yes
29 S : which lesson do you have on Tuesday at 11: 00? I have Arts on Tuesday at
30 T : 11:00 very good and the last question please Lillus
31 S : which do you have
32 T : which which which what which
33 S : lesson ((whispering the right word to help))
34 T : cscscscscs ((restoring order))
35 S : which lesson do you have on Monday at 9: 00? English
36 T : very good thank you and now close your exercise book please and look at the board
(3.0)
37 T : please tell me letters and these are the girls and these are the boys Klau please tell
me a letter
38 S : a (3.0) ((teacher writing the letter on the board)) there is no a in this word János
39 S : b
40 T : no b Szintike
41 S : c
42 T : yes at the end ö Domi
43 S : d
44 T : no d girls (2.0) Barbika please
45 S : e
46 T : yes (4.0) Sanyi please
47 S : f
48 T : f (2.0) girls Sárika please
49 S : t
50 T : t very good a boy Robi please
51 S : n

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52 T : yes (3.0) Katika

53 S : h
54 T : h very good a a boy please (2.0) Jakab please cscscscscscs
55 Ss : van benne a
56 T : o I’m sorry there is an a yes (2.0)
57 S : l
58 T : I’ve made a mistake I’m sorry ok so what is the last letter
59 T& : l
Ss
60 T : let’s read this word
61 T : chocolate ((slow rhythm)) once more chocolate ((slow again)) ok (2.0) ((mild
laughter in pause)) today we are going to learn about chocolate tehát ma a csokiról
fogunk tanulni ok very good I have got some pictures here please look at the board
look at these pictures and I will write some words here please match the words and
the pictures right? Ok? Laura what is your task? (3.0) Laura what is
62 S : két szót kell
63 T : no here are some pictures I will write some words
64 S : ı le kell írni
65 T : nononono I I’m going to write one two three four five words here and you have to
match
66 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx) a képeket
67 T : very good ok (21.0) ((writing the words on the board during pause)) and how many
words are there on the board how many words one two three four five one two three
four five one more word what is this one two three four five ok five five
68 S : ((assisting the teacher))
69 T : ja o ((smile)) thank you very much ok so match the words with the pictures
Szintike please go to the board and
70 S : kezdhetem?
71 T : yes (5.0) ((pupil showing first match)) say it please mondd ki
72 S : factory
73 T : yes (4.0) ((second match))
74 S : beans
75 T : very good (2.0) ((third match))
76 S : flowers
77 T : yes (4.0) ((fourth match))
78 S : tree
79 T : tree cocoa tree yes no cocoa tree is together this így
80 S : ja így
81 T : this is one only
82 S : köszönöm
83 T : and what yes pods pods pods look at the board please and repeat after me
84 T : factory
85 Ss : factory ((not all of them))
86 T& : factory
Ss
87 T : beans
88 Ss : beans
89 T : pods
90 Ss : pods
91 T : cocoa tree
92 Ss : cocoa tree
93 T : flowers
94 Ss : flowers
95 T : yes flowers ((emphasis on last s)) because there are some flowers very good
96 T : and open your vocabulary please (2.0) what is the new the brand new word from
here the brand new a legújabb
97 S : pods
98 T : yes please write this word into your dictio vocabulary (12.0) ((pupils turning the
pages of their dictionary))
99 T : pods pods ok pods (9.0) factory what is a factory Ákos what is a factory? (2.0)

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(xxxx xxxx)
100 S : gyár
101 T : very good cocoa tree what is it?
102 S : kakaópálma
103 T : very good? flowers
104 S : Virágok
105 T : yes beans
106 S : bab
107 T : bab ok very good and what is it pods look at the picture and try to find out Kati
108 S : hagyma
109 T : almost ((smile))
110 S : mandula
111 T : no
112 S : termés
113 T : termés yes very close
114 S : (xxxx xxxx) amikor a virágon nem jön ki a bimbó (2.0)
115 T : no (2.0) ((pupils trying to find the meaning)) termés az jó gubó hüvely gubó
hüvely please write gubó hüvely pods gubó hüvely (8.0) ((pupils writing)) ok ok
two more words két új szó még to grow to become to grow to become write it
please write them into your dictionary to grow to become (2.0) to grow means that
to become taller and taller to become taller and taller yes Zsuzsika
116 S : nı
117 T : this is a verb ez egy ige nıni ugye to become ı to grow nıni to grow yes (4.0) to
become it means that to change
118 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
119 T : yes válni válni valamivé jó to become (4.0) very good ok and now open your
books on page forty-eight (6.0) ((pupils are finding the right page in the pause))
forty-eight chocolate yes yammy yammy (9.0) I am going to read the text because it
is a new one and you will translate it right?
120 S : igen
121 T : ok very good chocolate comes from the cocoa tree cocoa trees grow in hot wet
countries in Afrika and South America
122 S : a csokoládé a a ı kakaófán terem
123 T : mhm
124 S : a kakaófák nınek a melegben
125 T : hol a meleg és wet wet
126 S : nedves
127 S : meleg és ı nedves
128 T : countries country Hungary England Scotland yes tehát a meleg és nedves
országokban hol?
129 S : Afrikában és ı (3.0) ((another is whispering the solution)) Dél-Amerikában
130 T : yes ok once more please the translation Laura a csoki^
131 S : a csoki a kakaófán terem a kakaófa nedves
132 T : kezdjük a végén Dél-Amerika
133 S : Dél-Amerika és Afrika
134 T : Afrika
135 T&S : meleg és nedves
136 T : országaiban nı meleg és nedves orszá tehát a végén kezdd Dél-Amerika és
Afrika
137 S : Dél-Amerika és Afrika meleg és nedves országaiban nı a kakaófa
138 T : very good two picture two after five years pink flowers grow on the trees the
flowers slowly become pods the pods are red or orange Zsuzsi please
139 S : öt évenként rózsazszín virágok nınek
140 T : a
141 S : a
142 T&S : fán ((almost together))
143 S : a virágok
144 T : slowly ((saying it slowly to demonstrate meaning)) quickly ((saying it quickly to
demonstrate meaning)) slow
145 S : lassan

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146 T : yes a virágok lassan

147 S : megnınek
148 T : not not grow become
149 S : válnak
150 T : pods (2.0) mivé válnak?
151 S : (xxxx xxxx) ((trying to find the solution))
152 T : gubóvá válnak ilyen kis gubó look at this picture you can see three pods here in
this picture okay inside the pods there are small beans János please
153 S : a termés
154 T : inside the pods inside
155 S : a termésben benn benne vannak a
156 T : babok kakaóbab kakaóbab ok people in factories make chocolate from the beans
Vivike
157 S : az emberek a gyárban készítik a csokit a babból <people in factories make
chocolate from the beans >
158 T : a babból yes people in Europe the USA and Canada eat the chocolate Ákos
159 S : az emberek ı Európában Amerikában
160 T : János ne csattogj
161 S : és Kanadában eszik a csokoládét
162 T : yes very good very good ok ı m let’s read the text ok? olvassuk el a szöveget egy
ember egy mondat one student one sentence only one sentence Rozi please
163 S : chocolate grows on cocoa trees
164 T : cocoa trees
165 S : cocoa trees
166 T : Lili
167 S : cocoa trees grow in hot wet countries in Afrika and South America
168 T : Linda please
169 S : after five years pink flowers grow on the trees
170 T : thank you Szintike
171 S : the flowers slowly ((bad pronunciation))
172 T : slowly slow
173 S : become pods
174 T : pods
175 S : pods
176 T : pods yes Ákos
177 S : the pods are red or orange
178 T : thank you Katika
179 S : inside the pods there are small beans
180 T : thank you very much Zsuzsi
181 S : people in factories make chocolate from the beans
182 T : ok and Sárika
183 S : people in
184 T&S : Europe
185 S : the USA and Canada eat the chocolate
186 T : yes thank you once more please Jakab start it please
187 S : chocolate comes chocolate comes from the cocoa cocoa trees Cocoa trees
188 T : trees
189 S : cocoa trees grow in hot wet coun
190 T : countries
191 S : countries in a
192 T : Africa
193 S : Africa and South South America
194 T : yes Ilike please
195 S : after five years pink flowers grow on the trees
196 T : yes (3.0) Robi please (4.0)
197 S : the flowers slowly ((bad pronunciation))
198 T : slowly
199 S : slowly become pads pods
200 T : pods Barbika
201 S : the pods are red or orange

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202 T : thank you Sanyi

203 S : inside the pods there are small beans
204 T : thank you Rozi
205 S : people in factories make chocolate from the beans
206 T : yes Ákos
207 S : people in factories make chocolate from the beans
208 T : itt volt ez már volt
209 S : people in Europe ((bad pronunciation))
210 T : Europe
211 S : Europe the
212 T : USA
213 S : USA and Canada eat the chocolate
214 T : ok and now don’t look at your book look at me look at me yeah please repeat after
me
215 T : South America
216 Ss : South America
217 T : Africa and South America
218 Ss : Africa and South America
219 T : hot wet countries in Africa and South America
220 Ss : hot wet countries in
221 T& : Africa and South America
Ss
222 T : cocoa trees grow in hot wet countries in Africa and South America
223 Ss : cocoa trees
224 T& : grow in hot wet countries in
Ss
225 Ss : Africa and South America
226 T : aha trees
227 Ss : trees
228 T : trees
229 Ss : trees
230 T : on the trees
231 Ss : on the trees
232 T : pink flowers
233 Ss : pink flowers
234 T : pink flowers grow on the trees
235 S : pink flowers grow on the trees
236 T& : pink flowers grow on the trees
Ss
237 T : after five years pink flowers grow on the trees
238 T& : a^
Ss
239 Ss : fter five
240 T& : years pink flowers grow on the^
Ss
241 Ss : trees
242 T : very good pod
243 Ss : pod
244 T : pods
245 Ss : pods
246 T : ı become pods
247 Ss : become pods
248 T : slowly become pods
249 Ss : slowly become pods
250 T : the flowers slowly become pods
251 Ss : the flowers slowly become pods
252 T : very good orange
253 Ss : orange
254 T : red or orange
255 Ss : red or orange

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256 T : the pods are red or orange

257 Ss : the pods are red or orange
258 T : beans
259 Ss : beans
260 T : small beans
261 Ss : small beans
262 T : there are small beans
263 Ss : there are small beans
264 T : inside the pods there are small beans
265 Ss : inside the pods there are small beans
266 T : very good ı factories
267 Ss : factories
268 T : people in factories
269 Ss : people in factories
270 T : people in factories make chocolate
271 Ss : people in factories make chocolate
272 T : Europe
273 Ss : Europe
274 T : the USA
275 Ss : the USA
276 T : Canada
277 Ss : Canada
278 T : people in Europe the United States and Canada eat the chocolate
279 T& : people in Europe the United States and Canada eat the chocolate
Ss
280 T : ok can you tell me please what does between red and orange what does this or mean
between red or orange or who knows? who knows? one two three four five only
five stu students know it six seven very good or red or orange Zsuzsi
281 S : piros és sárga
282 T : and? not and or Jakab (2.0) ((a few others want to say the meaning))
283 S : piros vagy sárga
284 T : vagy vagy Zsuzsi not and red and orange piros és red or orange piros vagy
narancssárga jó? Ok very good can you tell me the opposite of these words for
example hot what is the opposite what is opposite?
285 S : Ellentét
286 T : yes hot
287 S : cold
288 T : wet
289 S : (xxxx)
290 T : no száraz mhm száraz na akkor mondjad ha tudod (3.0) beginning with d d dr
(2.0) dr dry wet dry wet dry ok the next one is slowly (3.0) slow quick slowly
quickly quickly
291 S : quickly
292 T : ok what is slowly? what does it mean slowly?
293 S : lassan
294 T : quickly?
295 Ss : gyorsan
296 T : ok very good inside?
297 S : benn
298 T : what is the opposite cscscscscs Klau
299 S : outside
300 T : yes very good small beans small Rozi
301 S : big
302 T : very good can you tell me some more examples? több példát erre hogy
303 S : clever stupid
304 T : yes
305 S : tall short
306 T : tall short very good Ili Rena
307 S : fat thin
308 T : fat thin

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309 S : happy sad

310 T : yes
311 S : (xxxx xxxx)
312 T : very good (3.0)
313 Ss : lazy
314 T : lazy ok (4.0) ok thank you very much and now please look at the questions answer
the questions at the bottom of this page tehát az alján the questions read the
question first and then try to answer them ok? Laura
315 S : what tree does chocolate come from? African and (xxxx)
316 T : what tree does chocolate come from?
317 S : cocoa tree
318 T : cocoa tree thank you open your exercise book please and write lesson (5.0) ninety
lesson ninety and the title is chocolate chocolate lesson ninety chocolate yes (6.0)
aha what’s the date today today’s the 12th of (May) May 12-e van the 12th of May
(4.0) and please write chocolate number one what was the answer?
319 S : cocoa
320 T : cocoa
321 S : tree
322 T : tree ok cocoa tree (3.0) number two read the question please Zsuzsika
323 S : where do cocoa trees grow?
324 T : where? Where? (3.0) Kati
325 S : (xxxx)
326 T : yes yes
327 S : America and (xxxx) Africa and South America
328 T : Yes egy kicsit hosszabban in^
329 S : in hot
330 T : yes in hot wet ország
331 Ss : country
332 T : countries in
333 T&S : Africa ((teacher whispering the word))
334 S : and South America
335 T : once more please
336 T&S : in
337 S : hot hot wet
338 T&S : countries
339 T : in
340 T&S : in
341 S : Africa and South America
342 T : very good ((writing on the board)) in hot wet countries (3.0) in (2.0) Africa and
South America yeah (5.0) what is the opposite of wet what is the opposite of wet
(2.0) don’t you remember what is the opposite of wet Zsuzsi
343 S : (xxxx xxxx)
344 T : no what is the opposite of wet (4.0) what is the opposite of wet
345 S : dry
346 T : yes wet dry wet dry wet dry ok János please
347 S : what colour are the pods? The pods are red or orange
348 T : ok ((writing on the board)) red or orange (2.0) what does or mean? Mit jelent az
or?
349 S : vagy
350 T : vagy vagy what is the opposite of wet
351 S : dry
352 T : dry very good ok four Szintike please
353 S : what is inside the pods? small beans
354 T : very good ((writing on the board)) small beans (5.0) five Ági
355 S : who makes chocolate from the beans? I n the factories
356 T : not where who who (2.0)
357 S : people
358 T : cscscscscs Lili
359 S : people on the factories
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the beans they are sitting on the top of the fac on the factory Robi? on? ((joking))
361 Ss : (2.0) in
362 T : ok ((writing on the board)) people in factories and the last question please (5.0) ok
Ili
363 S : do you like chocolate? yes I do
364 T : very good (4.0) who doesn’t like chocolate? Ok everybody likes cho nobody
((dislikes chocolate?)) very good everybody likes chocolate it’s very important
thing but you will see at the end of the lesson ok and now I would like you to put
these pictures into the correct order ok? So which is the first what picture is the first
(3.0) aha Szinti
365 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
366 T : Ok I will tell you again there are the pictures on the table on the board ok? and
please put them into the correct order Szandi
367 S : tegyük sorba
368 T : yes what which is the first
369 S : cocoa tree
370 T : very good put it here yes ok put it here (2.0) what is the next one Klau?
371 S : flowers
372 T : yes very good and the next one olyat szólítok most csak azért hogy könnyebben
ki tudjunk jönni Vir vagy Szinti
373 S : pods
374 T : yes the next one (2.0) ((chatting)) beans and factory ok and now I would like you to
draw azt szeretném ha rajzolnátok méghozzá (2.0) ki fogjuk egészíteni ezt ami
a táblán van ok elolvasom újra lassan a szöveget I will read the text and we are
going to draw together együtt rajzolunk jó? ezt majd úgy tanuld meg otthon
hogy a rajzot nézed és ujjaddal mutatod és megpróbálod angolul mondani
hogy melyiken mi történik jó? cocoa chocolate comes from the cocoa tree please
draw a tree (2.0)
375 S : kicsiben?
376 T : mhm
377 S : tök jó
378 T : chocolate comes from the cocoa tree (7.0) ok after five years én ezt így rajzolnám
jó légy szí nyíl ötös after five years pink flowers grow on the tree rajzolj
virágokat nem muszáj ilyet amilyet én olyan tudod olyan putty putty putty
körbe ((smile)) azt a körbe virágot azt könnyebb (12.0) ok the flowers slowly
become pods nyilacska és rajzolj gubót termést hüvelyt ahogy neked tetszik
(11.0) ready? Are you ready?
379 S : yes
380 T : yes ok inside the pods there are small beans nyilacska nem is kell olyan sok
kiegészítés ugye? inside the pods there are small beans babokat kérek úgy van
Robi jó ha nem fér ki akkor húzod lefele very good (5.0) people in factories
make chocolate nyilacska factory gyárkémény hát nálunk még ilyenek a gyárak
sajnos ((smile trying to remain positive despite disappointment)) ok (4.0) and the
last picture is a mouth here ok? eat people eat the chocolate all over the world ugye
mindenhol eszik a világon (15.0) Rozi are you ready?
381 S : yes
382 T : can you tell me a sentence about the first picture? Csak egy mondatot az elsı
képrıl (3.0)
383 S : chocolate a
384 T : comes from
385 S : chocolate comes from Ame America Africa and South America
386 T : very good ok good (2.0)
387 S : (xxxx xxxx)
388 T : after
389 S : after five years the flowers (xxxx)
390 T : grow
391 S : grow
392 T : on the
393 S : on the cocoa trees
394 T : very good and then? (6.0)

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395 S : flowers slowly

396 T : become
397 S : become pods?
398 T : pods very good very good and then? (4.0)
399 T&S : inside the
400 S : pods
401 T : there are
402 S : there are small beans
403 T : very good and? (6.0) Katika
404 T : people
405 S : people in the factories
406 T : make
407 S : make
408 T : make
409 S : make chocolate jó ok people in factories make chocolate (7.0)
410 S : and people is
411 T : nem kell is
412 T : people
413 S : people eat the chocolate
414 T : people eat the chocolate yes very good ezt kérem szépen otthon betanulni tehát
please learn the content of the text tehát az olvasmány tartalma aki nem tudja az
tanulja be szó szerint thank you ok and now close your book close your excersise
book and I’m going to give you a piece of paper (4.0) felét ide (5.0) ok (4.0)
((teacher walking and giving papers)) mhm (8.0) please have a look at this side of
the paper where the pictures are this side (7.0) Jánoska yeah Ilike yes what can you
see here? (2.0) mit látsz itt?
415 S : aa ki vannak hagyva szavak
416 T : mhm so what is your task? tehát akkor mi a feladat?
417 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
418 T : ok please do it (3.0) nem Szandikám ott (10.0) ((pupil sneezing after pause)) bless
you (44.0) nobody knows number one number one is difficult (3.0) number one is
difficult (2.0) nobody knows number one let me give you a little help ok number
one look at number one (2.0) what is the question when you want to ask somebody
where are you? where are you? mhm (29.0) is it difficult? nehéz? yes yes it is (2.0)
but if you had a good memory ((cheery smile)) you can do it easily (5.0) five (13.0)
Szandi is ready János is ready (18.0) ((teacher walking and checking solutions))
people Barbika people is the next one people is (4.0) yes ok (12.0) the flowers (3.0)
beginning with f (5.0) ((pupil whispering in teacher’s ear during pause)) mhm
(20.0) ok finish your work please and take a red pencil or pen (9.0) how many
words (3.0) are there nine words ok so one two three four five six seven eight nine
ok so you can get nine points tehát mindenki kilenc pontot szerezhet if your
answer is correct please put a tick next to the word it means that one point for you
but if there is a little mistake ok only one letter for example you can yes please me
give half a point and if the word is not correct no point ok what is the first
419 S : from
420 T : second Lili
421 S : mm (xxxx)
422 T : third
423 S : nem
424 Ss : (xxx xxxx xxxx)
425 T : János please
426 S : grow
427 T : Ili please three
428 S : (xxxx)
429 T : Katika four
430 S : years
431 T : very good years why is this s here? why? because five years five years ? Klau five
432 S : nem tudtam
433 T : Zsuzsi
434 S : grow (3.0)

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435 T : Rozi (2.0) Jakab five?

436 S : slow
437 T : slowly slowly lassan slowly Sanyi six?
438 S : or
439 T : or seven Ákos?
440 S : (xxxx)
441 T : eight Zsanett?
442 S : ı pods
443 T : and nine
444 Ss : nem
445 T : nem? no?
446 S : emberek a pods-ban?
447 T : it’s funny people in pods
448 S : de azt mondtad hogy a hét mert a hét az
449 S : az sem az
450 T : so eight Barbika eight
451 S : factory
452 T : Yes hát
453 S : factories
454 T : igen így lenne jó factories mert nem csak egy gyárba gyártanak chocolate
hanem sok Sárika nine fél pont eat count your points számold a pointjaidat (5.0)
455 S : eat?
456 T : eat eat yeah eat ((spelling in the Hungarian way)) eat (6.0) nine (2.0) ((Szandi
raising her hand/s)) well done Szandi two plusses for you eight and a half (4.0)
457 T&S : no
458 T : eight (2.0) ((János raising his hand/s)) a plus for János seven and a half? Hét és fél?
Ok seven? Yes ok six? (2.0) five? Less than five? Kevesebb mint oh my god how
many?
459 S : four (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
460 T : ok jó two plusses plus for János your homework will be turn the page please turn
the paper and on the other side there are seven sentences but the sentences are not
correct nem helyesek please find the mistakes underline and correct them Mondd
el a feladatot János mi otthon?
461 S : ı van egy hibás mondat
462 T : nem csak egy
463 S : ellentéttel kell írni
464 T : nem biztos tehát
465 S : hibás a mondat és ki kell javítani
466 T : aláhúzni és kijavítani föléírni a helyeset how many mistakes are there?
467 S : tíz
468 T : ten there are ten mistakes altogether összesen
469 Ss : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
470 T : gyerekek
471 T&S : tíz szót keress
472 T : ami nem olyan a szövegbe mint amilyennek lennie kell nem most this is your
homework ok? good ok this is your homework your written homework ez az
írásbeli szóbeli mi?
473 Ss : tanulni
474 T : yes és szépen elmondani jövı órán még jelentkezés alapján ki szeretné pluszra
elmondani? (2.0) jövı órán és azután a jövı órai után pedig mindenkit aki nem
volt még aki nem jelentkezett magától le fogok feleltetni tehát mindenkit
számon fogok kérni a csokiból do you like chocolate?
475 Ss : yes
476 T : I got yes I got some chocolate here in my bag mmm very delicious ok yes thank
you for your work thank you for your work and good bye (5.0) ((teacher
unwrapping the packet)) hő de nehéz ezt kibontani jó aki kifele megy az egy-egy
csokikát elvesz jó? remélem hogy húszdarabos mert annyit számoltam mert
akkor kellene hogy jusson egy-egy csokikát elvesz a jó munka jutalma ként

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Lesson Piroska 2

1 T : good morning
2 Ss : good morning
3 T : who is on duty this week?
4 S : today is Thursday nobody Julia is absent
5 T : thank you sit down ((students are sitting down)) (4.0) Klau please homework
6 S : (xxxx xxxxx) ((students are chatting)) (3.0)
7 T : Laura why? (4.0) what was the homework Klau?
8 S : a szavakat ki kellett javítani
9 T : yes okay please take your place (2.0) please take coming coming quickly please sit
down good morning ((new students are coming, chatting)) (4.0) okay ready (10.0)
((students are taking their places)) majd óra végén ezzel most nem foglalkozok
drága tedd oda jó? correct the mistakes please read the sentence and tell me what
was the mistake or what word a mistake Lili please
10 S : cocoa trees grow in hot vet countries
11 T : okay hot the mistake was cold is the correct words is hot yes two Tambi
12 S : after five years pink flowers grow on the trees
13 T : yes very good there are two mistakes five and
14 T&S : pink very good Rozika please
15 S : the flowers slowly beco bec
16 T : become (( helps to pronounce the word))
17 S : pods
18 T : yes slowly not quickly slowly okay János please
19 S : the pods are red and orange
20 T : very good red or orange Laura
21 S : inside the flowers there are small beans
22 T : yes okay go on Ákos
23 S : people in factories maka the cholate from the beans
24 T : very good and the last sentence Jakab please
25 S : people in Europa the USA and Canada eat the chocolate
26 T : yes okay (4.0) tizenegy there were eleven okay very good and now (2.0) who wants
to tell the the text the story about the chocolate? ki akar felelni ez a kérdés itt
nobady ((she is laughing)) (5.0) legalább valaki próbálja már meg okay? yes
Szindi you can open your excercise book and you can see the drawings (4.0) yes
okay (2.0) yes here is
27 S : cocoa trees from hot vet country
28 T : come come ja no no no cocoa trees come ((loud signal from outside)) (13.0) start it
again please ja no no no cocoa trees come ((loud signal from outside )) (13.0) start
it again please
29 S : cocoa trees come from hot vet countries in Africa and South America after five
years pink flowers grow on the trees the flowres become slowly become pods inside
the pods there are small beans people in factories make the chocolate from the
beans people in Europa the USA and Canada eat the chocolate
30 T : thank you very much ötös erre egy ötöst adok bizony mert ez megérdemel hú
nem hoztam a füzetemet na a kutyafáját gondatlan tanár néni ki tudja hol
ülök a tanáriban? kit szoktam küldeni? Tombika legszélül kis füzetemet hozd
el a kis füzetemet bocsánat elnézést okay (2.0) it was very good Szindi okay very
good anyone else? (4.0) ma még önként lehet jelentkezni a következı órán már
szólítok akkor mindenki megvárja a következı órát? nem tesz senki próbát
ma? (3.0) okay ööööö Monday Tuesday Wendesday Thursday what are these? (3.0)
31 S : ((guessing))
32 T : nooo nooo (2.0) days okay they are days and seven days what is it? seven days
33 S : one week
34 T : yes one week very good ( 4.0) and summer spring autumn
35 S : weathers
36 T : not weathers noo évszak in English
37 S : season
38 T : yeees (3.0) and the four seasons together is a

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39 S : year
40 T : year year (2.0) one thing is between this do you know what is this word? between
week and season ?
41 Ss : (xxxx)
42 T : yes hónapok
43 S : months
44 T : months very good (2.0) now we are going to learn about months today ö how many
months are there in a year?
45 S : twelve
46 T : yes how many seasons are there in a year?
47 S : four
48 T : four how many weeks? do you know how many weeks? yes in English please fifty
two and how many days? (3.0) yes hogy mondjuk ezt hu száz fölé még nem
mentünk de próbáljuk meg három
49 S : three
50 T : száz hundred and
51 S : and
52 S : sixty
53 T : yes háromszázötvenhat?
54 Ss : (( they are talking in Hungarian about the numbers))
55 T : okay so three hundred and sixty-five is it correct? yes okay very good so there are
twelve months in a year what are these? please listen to the tape and repeat after it
okay?
56 C : section forty-five listen and repeat January February March April May June July
August September October November December (3.0)
57 C : January
58 T& : January
Ss
59 C : February
60 T& : February
Ss
61 C : March
62 T& : March
Ss
63 C : April
64 T& : April
Ss
65 C : May
66 T& : May
Ss
67 C : June
68 T& : June
Ss
69 C : July
70 T& : July
Ss
71 C : August
72 T& : August
Ss
73 C : September
74 T& : September
Ss
75 C : October
76 T& : October
Ss
77 C : November
78 T& : November
Ss
79 C : December
80 T : December very good okay Lili what's your favorite months? (4.0)

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81 S : June
82 T : June Eszter what's your favorite months?
83 S : April
84 T : April what's your favorite months?
85 S : April and May
86 T : what's your favorite day?
87 S : day?
88 T : ühüm
89 S : Friday
90 T : okay what's your favorite lesson? (6.0) Rena (2.0) Barbi what's your favorite
lesson? subject
91 S : (xxxx)
92 T : yes okay what's your favorite colour? (2.0)
93 S : pink
94 T : okay what's your favorite animal?
95 S : dog
96 T : what's your favorite number?
97 S : seven
98 T : what's your favorite food? Zsanett please (3.0) food shhh Ákos
99 S : spaghetti
100 T : okay spaghetti spaghetti bolognese okay what's your favorite fruit? Ákos
101 S : apple
102 T : what's your favorite ice-cream?
103 S : (xxxx)
104 T : yes okay (4.0) ((she is thinking)) what's your favorite (2.0) channel? channel
csatorna még nem tanultuk
105 S : I don't know
106 T : I don't know okay what's your favorite month?
107 S : October
108 T : yes and you? what about you?
109 S : July
110 T : July yes summer time okay very good and now open your books on page (3.0)
forty-nine (7.0) ((the students are opening their books)) unit thirteen January
February March the months yes okay and now listen the tape again and point to the
right picture please
111 C : ((music)) unit thirteen casette section forty-four listen and point to the right picture
Lucy and Shep are playing in the snow what month is it? ((signal)) January
112 T : okay please point to the right picture point what is point Robi?
113 S : (xxxx) (2.0) mutass
114 T : mutass okay so Lucy and Shep are playing in the snow what month is it? please
point to the right picture yes okay go on
115 C : Lucy and Shep are climbing in trees what month is it? ((signal))
116 T : yes okay (3.0)
117 C : Lucy and Shep are making a cake in the kitchen what month is it? ((signal)) (4.0)
118 T : what month is it?
119 C : Lucy and Shep are watching TV what month is it? ((signal))
120 T : Ákos what month is it?
121 S : (xxxx)
122 T : yes
123 C : Lucy and Shepa are eating ice-cream on the beach what month is it? ((signal))
124 S : August
125 T : August yes
126 C : Lucy and Shep are playing with a ball in the garden what month is it? ((signal))
127 S : May
128 T : yes
129 C : music
130 T : Lucy and Shep are riding a bicycle what month is it? Lillus
131 S : March
132 T : okay Lucy and Shep are swimming in the see what month is it? Robi
133 S : July

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134 T : July Robi July ((corrects the pronunciation)) everybody please

135 T& : July
Ss
136 T : okay Lucy and Shep are reading in the living-room Zsuzsi
137 S : December
138 T : very good Lucy and Shep are writing a letter Klau
139 S : February
140 T : very good Lucy and Shep are playing with marbles Lili
141 S : May
142 T : May ((corrects the pronunciation)) May okay everybody please
143 T& : May
Ss
144 T : very good and now I would like you to tell me sentences that Lucy and Shepard
pont pont pont yes what month is it? Szindi
145 S : Lucy and Shep are playing in the (xxxx)
146 T : what month okay call somebody
147 S : what month is it?
148 T : very good Kati make a question please
149 S : Lucy and Shep ( 3.0)
150 T : are
151 S : are reading a book
152 T : what
153 S : what month is it?
154 T : very good
155 S : December
156 T : question please
157 S : Lucy and Shep are playing (4.0)
158 T : are playing in
159 S : are playing in kite
160 T : with with
161 S : with kite what month is it?
162 S : April ((incorrect pronunciation))
163 T : April ((corrects the pronunciation)) April very good go on
164 S : Lucy and Shep are climbing in the trees
165 T : climbing the tree
166 S : what month is it? (xxxx)
167 S : June
168 T : yes
169 S : Lucy and Shep watching TV
170 T : are Lucy and Shepard
171 S : are watching TV what month is it? Robi
172 S : November
173 T : very good
174 S : Lucy and Csap
175 T : Shep ((corrects the pronunciation))
176 S : Csap
177 T : Shep
178 Ss : ((they are laughing))
179 S : Lucy and Shep in the river
180 T : are Lucy and Shep are
181 S : are in the river
182 T : in the river in the river ((she is laughing)) is it a river? a very big river
183 S : July
184 T : yes question please
185 S : Lucy and Shep make
186 T : are ma
187 S : are making cake.
188 T : thank you very much and now listen to me February what are they doing? February
what are they doing? Zsuzsi
189 S : make a cake

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190 T : they are

191 S : make a cake
192 T : they are
193 S : they are make a cake
194 T : Rozi help her please (3.0) they are
195 S : they are making a cake
196 T : very good Zsuzsi please repeat
197 S : they are making a cake
198 T : very good April what are they doing? Jakab
199 S : they are playing with kite in the park
200 T : they are playing with kite in the park very good ö August what are they doing?
János
201 S : they are eating the ice-cream
202 T : yes very good December what are they doing? Ákos
203 S : they are reading books
204 T : very good September Ilike please
205 S : they are playing football
206 T : very good continue it Ili folytasd amit én elkezdtem a month please hónap
207 S : May
208 T : May question please what are
209 S : what are
210 T&S : they
211 S : doing
212 T : okay May what are they doing?
213 S : they they are playing with marbles
214 T : okay a month please
215 S : March
216 T : March March question please what
217 S : what are
218 T : they
219 S : doing
220 T : yes okay
221 S : they are (4.0)
222 T : they are riding riding on a bike riding on a bike or cycling you can say cycling yes
okay last question please Rozika
223 S : October
224 T : what are
225 S : what are they doing?
226 T : yes
227 S : (xxxx)
228 T : they
229 S : they are writing a letter
230 T : yes thank you very much and now again the month please tell me the months
231 Ss : January February March April May June July August September October
November December ((each month is said by a different student, probably the
teacher is pointing at them))
232 T : again please
233 Ss : January February March (3.0)
234 T : January February March December ((each month is said by a different student,
probably the teacher is pointeg at them))
235 Ss : April May June July August September October November December
236 T : okay the boy start it please the boys aha only the boys (4.0) boys come on together
237 Ss : ((only the boys)) January February March April May June July August September
October November December
238 T : thank you and now the girls start it please
239 Ss : ((only the girls)) January February March April May June July August September
October November December
240 T : okay Zsuzsi when is your birthday? in?
241 S : July
242 T : in July okay in benne a hónapban when is your birthday Klau?

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243 S : in (xxxx)
244 T : yes when is your birthday?
245 S : in December
246 T : in December yes when is your birthday?
247 S : in November
248 T : and your birthday?
249 S : in May
250 T : thank you okay very good and now (2.0) we are going to practice okay I will give
you a piece of paper sheet of paper okay practice what is practice? gyakorlás
gyakorlás okay (5.0) ((students are chatting)) please look at this side of the paper
look at this side what months is it? milyen hónap ez? and take take a pencil please
(4.0) van eggyel több akkor egyet én is take a pencil please and try to find the
months try to find the month circle them circle them okay haladjunk együtt jó? s
ha valaki talált egy hónapot azt akkor mondja hogy hol
251 S : January alulról a hatodik
252 T : where is it? (3.0) közép alulról hat középen vízszintesen így mondjuk jó
vízszintes vagy függıleges
253 S : December vízszintes második sorban
254 T : December very good Ilike vízszintes Sárika
255 S : függılegesen az elsı sor September
256 T : September very good Laura
257 S : November a másik oldalon függılegesen
258 T : thank you November (3.0) Jakab
259 S : July a november alatt
260 T : July? November alatt yes vízszintes yes (2.0) where is the October
261 S : vízszintesen a felsı sorban a harmadik
262 T : inkább átlósan nem? October fölsı sor o betőnél átlósan October
263 Ss : (xxxx xxxx)
264 T : yes okay Sárika
265 S : vízszintesen a legelsı sorban
266 T : February yes (5.0)
267 S : May
268 T : where is May?
269 S : alulról a negyedik sorban kezdıdik és így átlósan le
270 T : yes May (3.0) yes okay Lillus
271 S : August függılegesen az utolsó elıtti sorban
272 T : August (2.0) August yes August August
273 S : March
274 T : March where is march?
275 S : felülrıl a harmadik sorban és függılegesen lefelé
276 T : átlósan March March look at look at my paper March March yes (5.0) Rena
277 S : June (xxxx xxxx)
278 T : June June very good Laura
279 S : mellette az April
280 T : next to it April a June mellett April next to June April how many words are there?
how many months?
281 Ss : ((they are chatting)) ( 5.0)
282 T : thirteen az nem lehet
283 S : June az megvan
284 T : megvan a twelve?
285 Ss : igen
286 T : okay thank you please turn the paper (3.0) and complete the months egészítsd ki a
hiányzó hónapokat yes okay (8.0) lefelé haladj January hm March hm May hm
(20.0) yes the capital letter yes okay (6.0) if you are ready please open your book
and check your work okay? (2.0) the spelling a helyesírást jó? (( the students are
working the teacher is walking around)) are you ready János? okay are you ready?
and what about the others? are you ready? yes okay no mistake yes one mistake two
mistakes more than two több mint kettı okay a plus for you who has not got any
mistakes (7.0) ezt eltévesztettem yes? most nem János not now when is your
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the sentence
287 S : my birthday is in October
288 T : Kati what about ?
289 S : my birthday is in January
290 T : thank you Zsanett
291 S : my birthday is December
292 T : yes
293 S : my birthday is in November
294 T : yes Sanyi what about
295 S : my birthday is in August
296 T : thank you and the last excercise exercise three do a puzzle keresztrejtvény the
months gyorsan quickly do it please (77.0) ((the students are working)) okay very
good János please tell me the words down down függıleges down yes
297 S : May
298 T : yes
299 S : April June October September
300 T : thank you August yes Jakab please tell me the words across függı vízszintes yes
across
301 S : December March January July
302 T : yes
303 S : November February
304 T : February February okay February very good thank you Lilike most mondták el
miért nem írtad be gyorsan gyorsan jó azért hajtom ennyire a társaságot hogy
maradjon idı óra végén játékra mert készültem egy kicsit Robika aha in groups
okay (2.0) your homework will be listen to me please (2.0) yes your homework will
be to write about these picture in book on page forty-nine forty nine (4.0) so
homework book on page thirty-nine write sentences about the pictures what month
is it here is an example itt a példa és tizenkét mondatot tizenkét választ kérek
szépen írni jó így van így van jó itt a minta there is the example the example is
here please write about the picture Lucy and Shepard are playing in the snow what
month is it? January Lucy and shepard are making cake in the kitchen what
February okay and go and now I will make four groups you four together you you
and you Szandi's group will be the the square ö Zsuzsi's group will be the triangle
circle Szindi's group and the star will be Jakab and his group okay?
305 Ss : ((students are chatting)) (15.0)
306 T : kell lenni egy írónak legyen egy írnok jó? okay who will write here Laura who
will write here in this group? Zsuzsi okay your excercise book you can write in
your exercise book who will write here in this group? Sanyi please close your book
and join to the others please okay Zsanett please open your excersise book who will
write here? Szindi okay please turn back yes okay sssh (11.0) ladies and gentlemen
I would like to start the game are you ready?
307 S : igen
308 T : okay then look at me please (3.0) öö last lesson ö we read a text about what? about
this was the text about? what about? no a text
309 Ss : (xxxx)
310 T : don't you remember the text? text szöveg yes
311 S : chocolate
312 T : about a chocolate okay chocolate please write as many words as you know begining
with (2.0) c begining with c one minute please
313 S : lehet a chocolate is
314 T : no chocolate kilıve
315 S : lehet (xxxx)?
316 T : no no names no towns no countries (38.0) your time is up please put down your
pencil or pen count your words okay how many?
317 S : eight
318 T : eight
319 S : ten
320 T : ten very good
321 S : five
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323 S : eleven
324 T : eleven the winner is the group of circle group yes please read the words
325 S : cat cold country coat calm cocoa cola (xxxx) cornflakes chair és cinema
326 T : cornflakes yes okay very good four points for you who is the second? okay
327 S : eight
328 T : eight thank thank you and one yes and now please look at the board you don't have
to write most nem kell írni look at the board Zsanett please look at the board there
are eight cards on the board and on the other side of the cards there are one word
there is only one word you have to say correct English sentence containing this
word if the sentence is correct you get one point okay what is your task János? what
is your task? aha
329 S : megnézni a kártyát és egy mondatot mondani
330 T : egy helyes mondatot az a lényeg jó correct sentence okay ö square csoport
gyorsan
331 Ss : ((they are chatting))
332 T : sho to the others
333 S : én is mondhatom a mondatot?
334 T : te is likes
335 S : I likes cocoa
336 T : I likes cocoa? Is it correct?
337 Ss : no
338 T : no thank you sit down triangle tell me a number tell me a number
339 S : five
340 T : okay five likes
341 S : he likes cocoa
342 T : he likes cocoa yes okay one point one point öö your group tell me a number
343 S : five
344 T : five no more five
345 S : three
346 T : the children
347 S : the children are going to the apartmen
348 T : there was a small mistake in this sentence okay I won't tell I won't tell you what
was it yes
349 S : eight
350 T : English
351 S : I like English
352 T : yes ((she is happily laughing)) okay very good and again is your turn
353 S : one
354 Ss : az a miénk aza miénk
355 T : sorry are
356 S : they are
357 T : yes okay it's correct
358 Ss : seven
359 T : seven red
360 S : (xxxx)
361 T : no no no it isn't correct you
362 S : four
363 T : four is
364 S : there is a letter
365 T : there is a letter where there is a letter continue it folytasd
366 S : on the table
367 T : yes okay it is correct
368 S : seven
369 T : seven red
370 S : there are three red ball
371 T : small mistake again there are three red ball
372 S : balls
373 T : yes ezt a mondatot nem mondhatod újra jó? tessék
374 S : three
375 T : okay number three the children

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376 S : the childrens are playing table tennis in the park

377 T : very good the children are playing table tennis in the park your mistake was
childrens ((emphasises the s)) azt mondtad hogy childrens az már többes szám és
János ügyes volt hogy are children are okay six oh red again
378 Ss : (xxxx xxxx)
379 T : jó mindegy
380 S : red ball
381 T : no it isn't correct the sentence is not correct
382 S : two
383 T : two in
384 S : the professor's in New York
385 T : very good the professor's in New York
386 Ss : (xxxx xxxx)
387 T : hol? Jó akkor egyet leveszek elnézést két red-et csináltam akkor a red-ért folyik
még a harc tessék red
388 Ss : the (xxxx) colour red or orange
389 T : no it was not correct
390 S : look at eye red flower
391 T : look at my red flower my okay
392 S : October isn't red
393 T : it's red October is red
394 S : I like red teacher
395 T : I like red ((she is laughing)) teacher is it correct? no no yes mert nemcsak egyet
hanem aha it's your turn again
396 S : the professor car is red
397 T : once more please
398 S : the professor car is red
399 T : the professor's car okay
400 S : my favorite colour is red ((break signal from outside))
401 T : yes okay my favorite colour is red okay three points for you oon e point one point
and two point it's okay this is not the end of the game please listen to me öö and
(4.0) Robi (3.0) and what was the today's topic what was the mmm what (2.0) have
we learnt about? mirıl tanultunk? Megmondom magyarul okay
402 S : months
403 T : months okay how many letter is it? months
404 S : five
405 T : okay one two three four five please write as many words as you know containing
five letters
406 Ss : öt betős? öt betős szavakat?
407 T : öt betős szavakat lehet öt betőbıl álljon a szó one minute one minute (30.0) half
a minute fél perc még your time is up az idı lejárt sajnos count your words please
how many?
408 S : nine
409 T : nine
410 S : four
411 T : four
412 S : six
413 T : six and
414 S : seven
415 T : okay read your words
416 S : apple boat
417 T : apple what was the second?
418 S : apple
419 T : the second
420 S : boats
421 T : boats yes
422 S : books
423 T : yes
424 S : cocoa
425 T : cho yes

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426 S : (xxxx)
427 T : yes
428 S : three
429 T : ye
430 S : rooms chair seven
431 T : okay seven the plurals
432 S : basket yes okay akkor eight
433 T : who has got eight? kinek van még nyolc? okay ki a második? gyorsan
434 Ss : (xxxx)
435 T : jó three points here two and? two and one okay? is it good? yes okay nine five eight
and five the winner is the square group one point for you on eplus for you the
second is the circle group okay and the third are yes the star and the triangle thank
you very much for you stand up please
436 Ss : ((students are talking loudly)) (4.0)
437 T : thank you for your work see you next week good bye
438 Ss : good bye
439 T : okay

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Lesson Ica 1

1 T : tell me what’s the weather like (xxxx)

2 S : it’s cloudy
3 T : yes
4 S : not raining
5 T : yes
6 S : cool
7 T : it’s cool today that’s right and ö what’s the temperature? temperature (xxxx) fifteen
(xxxx xxxx xxxx) between twelve and fifteen ok thank you sit down please (10.0)
8 S : a dolgozatot be lehet adni?
9 T : yes please give me back give it to me please thank you (5.0) Wednesday morning
latest ok thank you (4.0) yes aki nem írta alá az igen tudom aki nem íratta alá
azt szerdán reggel utoljára kérem szépen jó? ok és akkor osztogatnám
ugyhogy ellenırzıt elı lehet venni mert akkor osztogatnám a következı adagot
(8.0) ö hurry up please (3.0) yes
10 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
11 T : yes yes I know thank you good (5.0)
12 S : volt (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
13 T : jó majd meglátjuk de az miért? miért csak az egyikre van kérdés és a többi?
14 S : (xxx xxxx)
15 T : de miért nem? hát ez szép dolog vannak ilyenek látod Krisztina akik nem
csinálják meg a házi feladatot itt van az egyik ilyen nagy sakál ok hát ez a
szerencséje viszont hogy van egy csillagos ötös dolgozata a Reginának tessék
Regina (2.0) igen Lilinek Zsuzsikának Patricia where are you Kristóf János Zsolt
merre van? ((teacher is giving out the corrected and marked tests from the
previous lesson))
16 S : köszönöm
17 S : itt van
18 T : jaj gyere tedd oda légy szíves Lili Fruzsikáé is Ároné is egy fél hibája volt
legközelebb uram ne felejtse el az r betőt kiradíroztatni
19 S : jó
20 T : jó egy hibája volt Viviennek nyuszika o bető vagy a bető ezeket ne keverd
össze és ne cseréld fel jó? egy hibája volt Ilikének a breaken-t véletlenül azt
rosszul nem breaken hanem broken Saroltnak is egy hibája volt illetve két
félhibája Mikike két hibája volt ugyhogy végre most már ötös de figyeljél
jobban oda jó? gyorsan írjuk be a naplóba és aztán utána a házi feladatot
szeretném ellenırízni és szeretném megmutatni Krisztina néninek hogy hogy
tudjátok a kérdésfeltevést jó? úgyhogy azzal fogjuk kezdeni úgyhogy azt már
ki is lehet nyitni meg az ellenırzıket is úgyhogy gyorsan quickly please
21 S : be lehet írni?
22 T : persze gyorsan és akkor hogy legyünk túl na most nézd meg mennyi jegyük
van na de ez pont azért van mert ennyi dolgozatot írtunk majdnem három
vagy kétnaponta írunk ilyen szódolgozatokat Áron ellenırzıje nincsen jegye?
Hogyhogy
23 S : igen
24 T : Ili five yes
25 S : mindenkinek ötös
26 S : ötös
27 T : yes good alá kellene íratni a do a jegyeket
28 S : (xxxx)
29 T : háhá tudom
30 S : hányadika van? öt^
31 T : no kilencedike
it’s the ninth (4.0) Zsuzsika ellenırzı most nézd meg ahhoz képest hogy mennyi
volt ugye félévkor és most mennyi jegye van ez pont azért van csillag?
32 S : igen
33 T : ráadásul (2.0) Sarolt ellenırzı nincsen?

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34 S : nincs
35 T : Nincs Zsoltinak Dalma come on (3.0) ssss valahova odasuvasztjuk mert már
nem fér be Regina
36 S : ötös csillag
37 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
38 T : ellenırzıd jó Vivien
39 S : ötös
40 T : nem írtad be nyuszika? megy az idınk vele Ákoska
41 S : ötös
42 T : de írjátok be gyerekek hát most most ezzel megy el az idınk holott nem ezt
kéne bemutatni szerintem Krisztina néninek Lilié ötös ugye?
43 S : csillagos
44 T : ez rád is vonatkozik drágám eddig mi a túrót csináltál? A többik miért nem
tudták beírni? nem is kapsz csillagot most azért
45 S : ó
46 T : nem írom be Kristóf már itt van
47 S : csillagos ötös
48 T : Mikike is már itt van
49 S : ötös
50 T : na Kristóf bezzeg be tudta írni ugye?
51 S : volt képem
52 T : yes good
53 S : volt képed beírni a jegyet?
54 S : Gabi néni beírhatok egy csillagot?
55 T : nem mert rossz voltál ok so let’s check your homework please ok? yes let’s start it
very quickly the first sentence Áron please
56 S : ö
57 T : (xxxx) the whole sentence please but not the question the whole sentence and then
the questions ok?
58 S : yesterday I wrote a letter to my granny
59 T : ((writing sentence on the board while saying)) yesterday I wrote a letter to my
granny ok yes question first question please
60 S : did I write a letter to my granny yesterday?
61 T : yes did I write nem wrote ugye mert visszamegy elsı alakba a többi meg tök
ugyanaz ok next Dalma
62 S : who who I wrote
63 T : who who után mi fog jönni? who hát arra kérdezünk (5.0) utána pedig mi lesz?
64 S : who wrote
65 T : és a többi
66 S : a letter
67 T : így van a többi pedig tök ugyanaz
hát az I-ra kérdezünk rá Patikám az kiesik tudod Ákoska
68 S : when I write
69 S : when did I
70 T : when ez a mumusod neked Ákoskám
mindig hogy a did-et te állandóan kihagyod tehát when^
71 S : did I write a letter
72 T : ((saying and writing the sentence on board)) when did I write a letter to my granny?
Yes ok Sarolt next please
73 S : what did I write to my granny yesterday?
74 T : yes what did I write to my granny yesterday? ok Lili next please
75 S : what did I write yesterday?
76 T : yesterday ok next anything else? Who did I write a letter to yesterday? kinek who
did I write a letter to yesterday ((writing on board)) no more yes that’s enough
thank you good the next sentence please ok? jaj ez megint vizes lesz jaaj és nem
fogunk látni belıle semmit ((as the teacher wiped the board it got wet)) ok
Ákoska következı mondat jó?
77 S : we woke up at ten o’clock in this weekend
78 T : at this weekend vagy at the weekend (6.0) yes ok Zsoltika
79 S : ö did we woke wake up

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80 T : aha
81 S : at ten o’clock
82 T : yes did we wake up at ten o’clock
83 S : at the weekend
84 T : at the weekend very good (26.0) ((writing on board)) jaj értem hogy a hétvégére
kérdez ok ((writing on board)) (23.0) mert a we did we wake up
85 S : ja
86 T : ja hát lényeges és akkor van még kérdésed? good
87 S : már mondtam
88 T : oh sorry yes I forgot it ?? who is sitting next to you Zsuzsi
89 S : Áron won the chess competition last year
90 T : Krisztian won the chess competition yes chess competition when?
91 S : last year
92 T : last year yes ok so the first question please
93 S : did Áron win the chess competition last year? ((teacher writing symultaneously on
board))
94 T : did Áron win ((emphasizing win)) the chess competition last year? good next
Dalma
95 S : who won the chess competition last year?
96 T : yes who won ((emphasizing won)) the chess competition last year Zsuzsika next
please
97 S : when did Áron win the chess competition?
98 T : when did Áron win the chess competition? ((writing it on the board wile speaking))
chess competition és csak idáig a last year ugye kiesik
99 S : még van egy
100 T : yes I know ok Ili
101 S : what did Áron do last year?
102 T : yes what did Áron do last year? ((writing sentence on the board)) Sarolt
103 S : what did Áron win last year?
104 T : yes what did Áron win last year? last year ((writing on board)) anything else?
105 S : (xxxx xxxx)
106 T : na hát akkor most nyuszika akkor tedd fel a kezedet amikor éppen arra
kérdezlek so no more questions yes that’s all ok thank you next please (4.0) ok so
what was the sentence Zsoltika
107 S : Vivian wore gray trousers last week
108 T : yes Vivian wore gray trousers last week ok
109 S : did Vivien wore gray trousers last week?
110 T : yes did Vivien wore gray trousers last week?
111 T : when did Vivien
112 S : wore
113 T : miért wore?
114 S : wear
115 T : az a második alak és visszamegyünk az (22.0) yes that’s all ennyi ugye (17.0) did
Vivien wear last week ok és akkor ö még visszatérünk egy picikét ezekhez úgy
hogy most én diktálok nektek mondatokat méghozzá ebbıl a könyvbıl (4.0) a
mondatokat (6.0) finom kis mondatocskák de azt hiszem én fogok kitalálni
inkább ok? ((starts dictation)) they played football last week they ok write it down
please put it down they played football last week they played football last week ok
next sentence she gave her pen to the teacher yesterday legyen benne idıhatározó
is she gave her pen to the teacher to the teacher she gave her pen to the teacher
yesterday and the last sentence let’s say mm my mother my mother my mother
made ö my mother made a fruitcake a fruitcake a fruit fruit like apple orange fruit
((writing fruit on board)) fruit fruit so my mother made a fruitcake cake you know
what is a cake
116 S : (xxxx xxxx)
117 T : yes of course so my mother made a fruitcake ö on Sunday on Sunday my mother
made a fruitcake on Sunday ok now please the first how many questions one two
three four five write five questions (240.0) ((teacher talking at the desk to herself
and to me abou the next exercise)) egy kettı három négy öt hat (7.0) egy kettı
ezeket kiveszem mert ezek túl könnyőek (xxxx) kapják meg három négy öt hat

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hét és nyolc (xxxx) (7.0) akkor még rakok hozzá (3.0) egy kettı (12.0) kilenc tíz
(13.0) tíz ez most tizenegy? egy kettı három négy öt hat hét nyolc kilenc tíz
(22.0) ((teacher going round the class checking)) did
118 S : ja (4.0)
119 T : did
120 S : played
121 T : ha a did-et beírjuk akkor akkor played lesz a kérdımondatban? vagy pedig
csak
122 S : play
123 S : play
124 T : play yes volt egy ilyen hogy kinek írtuk valahogy who …. to
125 S : who did
126 T : mhm persze who did hát nem mert nem az alanyra kérdezel rá tudod (3.0) ok
ok one more minute the last minute is coming ok so hurry up please never mind we
are going to collect it together (22.0) yes I’m coming (4.0) the pen to (26.0)
kimaradt az a ez kimaradt megint kihagytad ott is
127 S : a milyenre hogy kérdezünk rá?
128 T : mm hogy milyen az most nem érdekes jó azt majd még meg kell tanulni azt is
hogy what kind of de hát azt most hagyjuk ki jó? az meg egy új kérdıszó lesz
azt majd megtanuljuk késıbb csak az alapvetı dolgokat tudjuk azt viszont jól
(2.0) who did she give a pen to? hogy kinek adta oda nem hogy ki az is lényeges
de az hogy kinek ok ok hurry up please never mind you will finish it later
129 S : nekem is kettı van
130 S : az utolsóból is kettı
131 T : hurry up don’t talk write write my dear don’t talk (4.0) az ami neked is van
ugyanaz (xxxx) (12.0) ((teacher going around checking and talking to the students
privately))) are you tired Ákoska? are you tired? are you tired? yes why are you
tired? why are you tired? why are you tired? hm? Mi az hogy are you tired? tired
mi az a tired azt (xxxx)
132 S : fáradt
133 T : yes fáradt azt kérdeztem hogy are you tired és akkor bólogattál hogy yes ezért
kérdeztem hogy why are you tired? miért vagy fáradt? (2.0) in English please I
don’t know yes ok good now the first first please read the sentence and then the
first question Zsoltika ok? so
134 S : they played ((wrong pronunciation)) football last
135 T : they pronunciation kiejtésre tessék vigyázni they
136 S : played
137 T : yes
138 S : played football last week
139 T : yes
140 S : did they play football last week?
141 T : yes did they ((writing on board while speaking)) és ez ki ne maradjon mer
ugyanis nem played itt nagyon sokan ezt írták föl ezt fölírhatod magadnak
Krisztina hogy ezt írták tehát ez it leesik ugye mivel hogy a did miatt ugye did
they play football last week? last week?
142 S : igen
143 S : igen
144 T : last week yes na ezeket már csak rövidítem ezeket már úgyis ugyanazok
maradnak az nem érdekes yes next please Lili
145 S : who played football last week?
146 T : yes who played football last week? ((writing on the board while speaking)) itt
viszont kiírjuk mert ugye nincsen benne a did ezért kell az ed
147 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx?)
148 T : így van Ákoska
149 S : when did ? they play football?
150 T : yes when did they ((writing on board symultaneously)) és megint csak play és nem
played ugye football ok next ö Zsuzsika
151 S : what did they play last week?
152 T : yes what did they play last week? ((writing on board)) what did they play last
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153 S : what did they do last week?

154 T : yes what did they do last week? ((writing on board)) and these are five questions
yes so no more? or is there any more? no more no more ok let’s see the next
sentence please öm Áron yes first read the sentence please ok?
155 S : did she
156 T : first read the sentence please first the sentence and then the questions ok?
157 S : she gave her pen to the teacher yesterday
158 T : yes
159 S : did she gave ö
160 T : did she
161 S : give her pen
162 T : yes ok
163 S : did she give her pen to the teacher yesterday?
164 T : yes did she give ugye visszamegyünk az elsı alakba yes ok ö Regina next please
165 S : who gave her pen to the teacher yesterday?
166 T : yes very good that’s right Kristóf next please
167 S : what did she do yesterday?
168 T : yes what did she do yesterday ok Ákoska
169 S : ö what did she gave to the teacher?
170 T : what did she miért gave? idáig
171 Ss : give
172 T : Ákoska mindig elfelejtesz visszamenni az elsı alakba meg a did-et elfelejted ez
a leglényege az egésznek Miki next please legsúlyosabb hibák bizony
173 S : what did she do yesterday?
174 T : yes what did she
175 S : már volt
176 T : az már volt szerintem is yes another question? have you got another question?
177 S : what gave (xxxx)
178 T : what did
179 S : she
180 T : she és give
181 S : ez is volt már
182 T : ez is volt már így van na akkor Zsoltika egy újat mondjál
183 S : who she gave her pen
184 T : hú who did she give who did she give
185 T&S : her pen to yesterday
186 T : így van who did she give her pen to yesterday mondjuk ez nem olyan nagy
tragédia mert ez ez nehezebb kérdés már Ili van még itt? Ja nem itt van még?
187 S : még van van egy
188 T : yes (5.0)
189 S : when did she give her pen
190 T&s : to the teacher?
191 T : yes when did she gave her pen to the teacher good that’s all minden ki van lıve
most már mindegyiket már kilıttük next please
192 S : my mother made fruit
193 T : a fruitcake a fruitcake
194 S : a fruitcake on Sunday
195 T : mhm
196 S : did my mother make a fruitcake on Sunday?
197 T : yes did my mother make a fruitcake on Sunday yes ok Miki next please
198 S : ö (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
199 T : ok ja odáig jutottál csak el ok Zsuzsika
200 S : when did make
201 T : when did
202 S : ö what did make
203 T : nono what did
204 S : my
205 T&S : mother
206 S : make
207 T : yesterday vagy on Sunday sorry on Sunday hát ez idıhatározó az a lényeg jó

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tehát what did my mother make on Sunday yes ö Regi ö Sarolt

208 S : when did my mother make a fruit cake?
209 T : yes when did my mother make a fruitcake? ok Zsoltika
210 S : what did mother do
211 T : my
212 S : my
213 T : ne felejtsd ki what did my mother do on Sunday? yes ö Lili
214 S : what did my mother make?
215 T : yes what did my mother make Kristóf van még?
216 S : on Sunday
217 T : on Sunday yes még valaki?
218 S : még volt egy
219 T : igen
220 S : who made the fruit cake?
221 T : yes who made the fruitcake on Sunday? who made the fruitcake on Sun
222 S : nekem hibátlan
223 S : nekem is hibátlan
224 S : nekem is
225 S : az jó hogy who made my cake? make
226 T : ne ne ne oda nem nem hiszem a who most itt nem lehet mert mert nem az hogy
kinek csinálta most az nincsen jó az olyan most nem jön ez melyik? who mi az
a take made mi az a (xxxx) ott? hogy került oda? De az a who az hogy jött oda?
hát a mother-re kérdezünk rá who made made itt van Hölgyem itt van nézze
meg itt van made a fruitcake on Sunday tehát nincsen mother mert erre
kérdezünk rá ok? na nézzük az elosztást ülj le Ilikém gyorsan azt mondja hogy
igen négy akkor Lilike átmegy oda most átmegy abba a csapatba gyorsan
nagyon gyorsan itt maradnak öten itt is négyen és ott is négyen vannak oké?
Yes make some spaces on the table (4.0) nagyon nem kell pakolni csak egy
picikét hogy legyen hely jó? So these are yours ok shuffle the cards please these
are yours shuffle the cards please ok? shuffle the cards please ok? shuffle it please
(7.0) yes shuffle the cards Dalma quickly please we don’t have enough time much
time for it are you ready?
227 S : nem
228 T : ı come on Ákoska yes like that good that’s ok quickly please because you are the
last so ready steady go ((the students got verbs on bits of paper in groups and they
have to put them together present tense past tense present perfect and the Hungarian
meaning)) (28.0) ((teacher writing on board from sec 14 for a few seconds))
229 Ss : kész
230 T : ok ready good now you’re not ready yet megvan mindegyik csak keresgéljétek
231 S : itt van egy
232 T : ready?
233 S : kész
234 Ss : kész kész kész kész
235 T : ready to it so group one so let’s see so this will be group one let’s say ok? Ey don’t
cheat ok quiet please listen to them please first ok? don’t change it please don’
change it ok? don’t touch it even ok? so yes start it please
236 S : choose, chose, chosen ((wrong pronunciation))
237 T : chosen chosen
238 S : chosen
239 T : yes what does it mean?
240 S : választ
241 T : yes good
242 S : mondhatom?
243 T : yes is it correct? is it correct like that?
244 S : szerintem nem
245 T : no
246 S : (xxxx xxxx)
247 T : yes yes one mistake
248 S : Zsuzsi tiedé
249 T : yes never mind ok so Regina (2.0) read it please Zsuzsika can you read it? (3.0)

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valaki próbálja már elolvasni hát nehogy már ne tudja

250 S : throw
251 T : throw
252 T&s : threw thrown
253 T : nem tudom mi volt ebben olyan nehéz Regina yes hey Ákoska don’t cheat put it
away please put it away you don’t need it now ok
254 S : dob
255 T : dob így van mehetünk tovább gyorsan
256 S : speak spoke spoken mond ö beszél
257 T : yes ok
258 S : ride rode ro ridden lovagol
259 T : yes
260 S : break broke broken ez az eltör
261 T : meglovagol ez a lovagol
262 S : ez pedig az
263 T&S : eltör
264 T : így van
265 S : drink drank drunk iszik
266 T : yes
267 S : pay paid paid
268 T : css quiet please
269 S : fizet
270 T : mhm
271 S : feel felt felt érez
272 T : mhm
273 S : hova tettem a másik felét?
274 S : nem tudom
275 S : ott van az asztal alatt
276 T : hát ez az leesett ok jó gyorsan menjünk tovább Lili
277 S : win won
278 T : know
279 S : know
280 T : igen ott is már
281 S : igen
282 T : kettı hiba
283 S : know knew known ((wrong pronunciation))
284 T : known
285 S : ez a ı tud ismer
286 S : win won won nyerni
287 T : nyer ok ss szedjétek össze jó de keverjétek össze jó? yes ö who was the second?
You were the second
288 S : mi voltunk
289 S : sleep slept slept alszik
290 T : bocsánat bocsánat így van ti voltatok bocsánat sorry I am sorry
291 S : sit sat sat ül
292 T : yes css quiet please girls yes sit down please ok sit down
293 S : be was were been az ö létige
294 T : yes
295 S : come came come jön
296 T : yes good
297 S : give gave given ad
298 S : go went gone megy
299 T : gone gone ((correcting pronunciation))
300 S : gone megy
301 S : take took taken kézbevesz fog
302 S : think thought thought
303 T : mm Kristóf
304 S : mondhatom?
305 T : yes
306 S : gondol

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307 T : yes
308 S : lose lost lost elhagy elhagy
309 T : mhm
310 S : ring rang rung csörög
311 T : csönget így van csörög így van ok shuffle the cards please
312 S : sleep slept slept alszik
313 T : mhm
314 S : tell told told elmond
315 T : mhm
316 S : fly flew flown
317 T : fly ejtsd ki mégegyszer ss quiet please girls sit down and be quiet shut your mouth
please ok?
318 S : fly flew ((wrong pronunciation))
319 T : fly
320 S : flew ((correct))
321 T : flew that’s right flew úgy ejtsd körülbelül yes ok flown yes ok
322 S : get got got kap
323 T : Miki next choose one
324 S : cut cut cut vág
325 T : ok yes
326 S : draw drew drawn rajzol
327 T : yes ok next
328 S : build
329 S : build built built ö build built built ö épít
330 T : yes ok Ákoska
331 S : forget forgot forgotten ö elfelejt
332 T : mhm
333 S : become became become
334 T : become became become valamivé
335 S : válik
336 T : válik így van nincs ott rajta a izén? nincs rajta? Jó semmi baj akkor majd
kiveszem legközelebb de úgyis meg kell tanulni mert rendhagyó ige és
337 S : fall fell fallen ez a leesik
338 T : yes ok gyorsan össze lehet kapcsolni na és akkor azt mondja hogy ott két hiba
volt itt hibátlan volt itt is hibátlan és ki volt a második? önök ugye Uraim
Hölgyeim? jó tehát azt mondja hogy itt kapnak Önök lesznek az egyes csapat
kap három pontot azt mondja Önök amelyik a második csapat és akkor kettı
és oda csak egy pont jár ((writing it on board)) mert ott volt két hiba ok so ne ne
nee put her down please ok and give your card to this group please and give your
card to that group and you give it to this group ok? ok shuffle the cards please
339 S : itt ültem mert itt lesz
340 T : no ö Miki now you come to this group please ok? thank you ok shuffle the cards
please shuffle it well please ok shuffle the cards quite well yes ready steady go
(26.0) ((teacher laughing in second 7))
341 S : készen vagyunk
342 T : még itt van a kezében
343 S : készen vagyunk
344 T : ok yes good ready second ok third so jó yes jó átrakni lehet csak nem variálni a
sorrendet yes ok
345 S : be was were been van
346 T : létige
347 S : sit sat sat ül
348 T : mhm
349 S : give gave given
350 T : yes
351 S : ad
352 T : mhm ok next
353 S : go went gone megy ment megy
354 T : yes yes ok next Zoltán
355 S : lose lost lost ö ez a elhagy

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356 T : yes ok
357 S : take took taken ((second and third form not pronounced correctly))
358 T : take took
359 S : took
360 T : taken
361 S : taken ez a
362 T : css quiet please sit down please ok sit down
363 S : elhagy
364 T : girls sit down yes no no no take took taken no (2.0)
365 T : ö fölvesz
366 T : elvesz mhm ok yes
367 S : come came come az a jön
368 T : don’t cheat
369 S : jön
370 T : yes ok they are not cheating
371 S : think thought thought aaaa gondol
372 T : yes ok do (2.0) here
373 S : do
374 S : ja do did done csinál
375 T : yes
376 S : ring rang rung
377 T : nem
378 T&S : ring rang
379 S : rung
380 T&S : rung
381 T : kiejtés
382 S : az a csörög
383 T : yes good ok very good ok no mistakes good next please yes
384 S : tell told told elmond
385 T : css yes
386 S : become became become válik
387 T : valamivé vál így van mhm
388 S : build built built ez az épít
389 T : mhm
390 S : sleep slept slept ez az alszik
391 S : forget forgot forgotten ez az elfelejt
392 T : mhm
393 S : fall fell fallen leesik
394 T : mhm
395 T : cut cut cut elvág
396 T : very difficult yes ((joking))
397 S : fly flew flown ((2nd and 3rd form pronounced incorrectly))
398 T : fly
399 S : flew
400 T&S : fle flown
401 S : ez a repül
402 T : ok
403 S : get got got ez a kap
404 S : draw drew ((incorrect pronunciation)) drawn
405 T : azt hogy ejtjük ki a középsıt?
406 S : draw
407 T&S : drew drawn
408 S : rajzol
409 T : yes ok you and shuffle the cards very good yes please start it please
410 S : choose chose chosen választ
411 T : yes
412 S : pay paid paid fizet
413 T : yes
414 S : win won won nyer
415 T : yes

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416 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)

417 T : yes
418 S : ride rode ridden lovagol
419 T : yes
420 S : speak spoke spoken ı beszél
421 S : know knew known ez a tud ismer
422 T : yes ok good
423 S : throw threw ((incorrect pronunciation))
424 T : hé throw throw
425 S : throw threw thrown dob
426 T : yes
427 S : drink drank drunk iszik
428 S : feel felt felt érez
429 T : yes ok you can shuffle the cards so three two one points and please go around again
ok? so you are you are group two now yes so here is here is hm that is yes and here
is one point ok and now change the cards again go around please ok? Miki now you
are going to that group now ott voltál már? ((one student has to go to different
groups because of the numbers)) yes yes ok shuff kinek adtátok tovább gyorsan
adjátok már tovább ne hát ne keverjétek már össze gyerekek ne keverd már
össze légy szíves add már oda neki hát az övéké de hát akkor add Áron ne
aludjál mert mindjárt kicsöngetnek ok Áron hurry up please shuffle the cards
(7.0)
430 S : nálam még ez nem volt
431 T : ezért kéne figyelni egymásra és akkor tudnád hogy mi az ok ready steady go
(24.0)
432 Ss : kész
433 S : hiányzik egy
434 S : hiányzik egy kártya
435 T : ott van pedig mindegyik gyerekek
436 S : nincs a go went
437 S : a gone ide hiányzik
438 S : a gone az hiányzik
439 T : gyerekek nincs ott valakinél a gone? olyan olyan ö
440 S : de amúgy kész
441 T : ott van még gyerekek ott hagytatok egy ott hagytatok egy hogy is hívjákot azt
hát azért a másik csapat szegény meg szenved tıle
442 Ss : de mi készen vagyunk
443 T : jó jó ti vagytok az elsık másodikok és harmadikok jó na akkor gyorsan
mondják el kezdheti Uram
444 S : ö go went gone megy
445 T : innen kezdjük talán Uram
446 S : take took token
447 T : taken hol van ott o bető?
448 S : taken
449 T : yes
450 S : ö (2.0)
451 T : help him please
452 S : ı beszél
453 T : no no no take
454 S : megf megfog elvesz
455 T : yes that’s right good ok
456 S : lose lost lost elhagy
457 T : yes good
458 S : go went gone megy
459 T : yes ok don’t touch it
460 S : be was were been létige
461 T : yes good
462 S : do did don
463 T : done
464 S : done ez a csinál

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465 T : yes ok next

466 S : most már nem (xxxx)
467 T : nem cserélgeti csak igazítja hát Gizike ne mással foglalkozzál jó? hát ez az a
karattyolás helyett
468 S : think thought thought ez a (4.0)
469 T : mit csinálsz most?
470 S : gondolkodik
471 T : na
472 S : give gave given ad
473 T : mhm
474 S : sit sat sat ül
475 T : yes
476 S : come came come come
477 T : come yes
478 S : ez a jön
479 T : mhm
480 S : ring rang rung ((last two pronounced incorrectly))
481 T&S : ring rang rung
482 T : kiejtés
483 S : ez a csörög
484 T : yes ok lehet összepakolni jó? Yes who was next?
485 S : mi
486 S : mi voltunk a kettes
487 T : yes ok yes good
488 S : drink drank drunk iszik
489 T : mhm
490 S : ride rode ridden lovagol
491 T : yes css quiet please there
492 S : nem nem (xxxx)
493 T : menjél ki és szóljál nem ordibálni kell hármas bocsánat yes gyorsabban
494 S : pay paid paid az ö ez a
495 T : segítsenek valaki segítsen azért gyerekek hogy gyors
496 S : bring brought brought az hoz
497 S : throw threw
498 T : throw
499 S : throw
500 T&S : threw thrown
501 S : dob
502 T : yes and the last one last ok
503 S : lehet mondani az egészet?
504 S : egy embernek?
505 T : nem az egy embernek nem egy ember mondta el gyorsan
506 S : become became become azt nem tudom
507 T : valamivé válni
508 S : válni
509 S : fly flew flown
510 S : repül
511 S : repked repül
512 T : mhm css quiet please Miki
513 S : forget forgot forgotten elfelejt
514 T : mhm
515 S : build built built épít
516 T : yes
517 S : sleep slept slept alszik
518 S : get got got ad
519 S : az ad?
520 S : kap
521 S : kap
522 T : na így van
523 S : fall fell fallen elesik

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524 T : yes and the last one

525 S : tell told told ö elmond?
526 T : elmond yes and let’s see the results ok so zsupsz five points
527 S : hét
528 T : seven and there is six so first is group two group a three is second and group first is
the five is the third ok én kérem szépen vissza ezeket a lapokat vagyis ezeket a
kártyákat jó?
529 S : (xxx xxxx xxxx xxxx?)
530 T : no azért nem jár ötös azért hogy ı azért ez egy kicsit durva lenne hogy házi
feladat most kivételesen az hogy öt mö mondatot kérek szépen mindenki írjon
a rendhagyó igékkel emlékeztek mint egyszer már csináltuk jó?
531 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
532 T : igen igen jó t ehát az a házi feladat
533 S : írni kell magyart?
534 T : tessék?
535 S : magyart kell írni?
536 T : nem angolul kell írni csak öt mondatot

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Lesson Ica 2

1 T : ((Greetings and reporting are not on the cassette)) ready steady go ok so let’s read
it ok and let’s translate it for Krisztina so start the first sentence please
2 S : the lion and the mouse az oroszlán és az egér the lion fell asleep in his den one
afternoon az oroszlán aludt a barlangjában egy délután (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx
xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
3 T : yes ok thank Ina ok Regina continue please
4 S : (xxxx) the mouse broke into the lion’s den a kisegér betört az oroszlán
barlangjába
5 T : yes ok one more please one more sentence
6 S : he jumped on the lion
7 T : onto
8 S : onto the lion’s arm and then up to the top of his head föl fölugrott az oroszlán
karjára és (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
9 T : yes very good ok Liliana please
10 S : the lion woke up az oroszlán (xxxx)
11 T : felébredt yes yes yes
12 S : he was very angry nagyon mérges volt
13 T : yes ok and one more sentence please
14 S : the lion roared loudly and caught the mouse with his paw ordít hangosan
ordított és elkapta a mancsával az egeret
15 T : yes very good Zsuzsika next please
16 S : how dared you to wake me up the lion asked hogy merészeltél felébreszteni
kérdezte az oroszlán I shall kill kill you for that ezért még meg foglak ölni
17 T : yes ok
18 S : the mouse got very frightened az egér nagyon megijedt (4.0) please please let
me go kérlek kérlek engedj el he (xxxx)
19 T : cried
20 S : cried (xxxx)
21 T : ok m Vivi next please (4.0)
22 S : I did not mean to wake you up én nem akartalak felébreszteni do not kill me ne
ölj meg
23 T : mhm one more
24 S : perhaps ((wrong pronunciation))
25 T : perhaps
26 S : perhaps one day I shall be
27 T : able
28 S : able to help you én majd (xxxx)
29 T : mhm who can help?
30 S : (xxxx)
31 T : yes
32 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
33 T : mm neked
34 Ss : neked
35 T : segít perhaps így van talán majd lehetséges az ugyanaz yes good? Ákoska next
please
36 S : what says the lion mi kérdezi az oroszlán how could ((wrong pronunciation))
37 T : could
38 S : could a tiny ((wrong pronunciation))
39 T : tiny animal
40 S : tiny animal like you help the king of all animals
41 T : (xxxx)
42 S : egy ilyen állatka hogy tudna segíteni az állatok királyának
43 T : yes ok good Piri next please
44 S : the lion thought this was very funny az oroszlán nagyon vidám volt
45 T : nononono thought think thought thought mhm
46 S : az oroszlán ezt nagyon vidámnak gondolta

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47 T : yes that’s right ok go on

48 S : he laughed ((close to the American pronunciation))
49 T : laughed he laughed ugye ezért kellett volna gyakorolni az olvasást ugye azt
mondtam hogy tessék gyakorolni mert van egy pár nehéz szó benne he
laughed and
ugye ezért kellett volna gyakorolni az olvasást
50 S : he laughed and let the mouse go no
51 T : yes he laughed ((imitating laughter))
52 S : nevetett
53 T : mhm
54 S : az oroszlán az egéren
55 T : and let the mouse go free ((illustrating action))
56 S : elengedte az egeret
57 T : yes that’s right good ok Fruzsina next please
58 S : all right mouse ö menj innen
59 T : nono all right mouse
60 S : menjél egér
61 T : all right
62 S : jól van egér
63 T : mhm
64 S : jól van egér mondta run away fuss el
65 T : mhm
66 S : the mouse slid away from the lion’s paws and and (xxxx) away
67 T : mhm
68 S : az egérke túljutott az oroszlán (xxxx) és elfutott
69 T : yes that’s right ok m nem folytatjuk már tovább elvileg még folytathatnánk
de van egy másik mese amit hoztam és akkor elmegy az idınk azzal úgyhogy
most csak egy másik mesét veszünk inkább jó? úgyhogy ez ennyi elég volt
szerintem bemutatónak hogy ezt vettük múltkor ok? Kikapcsolhatom addig?
((teacher asking the researcher who is sitting at the table and shaking her head))
no ok no I take it with me ((the problem was that the teacher did not have a
pocket and did not want to have the tape recorder fixed on her, she had it in her
hand all the time making it difficult to go around when she was at the desk it was
ok as she put it down and kind of forgot about it)) so here is another tale not a
fairy tale but it’s a tale of course (xxxx xxxx xxxx) the other please fairy tale az
mi az a fairy tale egyébként?
70 S : tündérmese?
71 T : tündérmese yes not a fairy tale but tale yes of course I know you know it ok so
the greedy dog the greedy dog yes this is yours ok this can be this is mine ok now
listen I’m going to read it first and then you are going to practise it with me
together ok? tehát the greedy dog ott legalul ott látjátok tudjátok itt vannak a
jegyzetek ugye látja mindenki alul hogy a greedy az a mohó a mohó
kutyuska the greedy dog went to the into the butcher’s shop and stole a big juicy
bone tehát ez egy mohó kutya hová ment? a butcher
72 S : hentes
73 S : hentes
74 T : tudjuk a henteshez ment így van és ellopott egy jó kis finom kis csontocskát
így van a bone az a csont he ran away so fast that the butcher couldn’t catch him
olyan gyorsan elfutott hogy a hentes
75 T&S : nem tudta
76 S : elkapni
77 T : utolérni elkapni ıt így van he ran out into the fields with his bone hová
rohant?
78 S : (xxxx)
79 T : fields mezıre inkább a mezıre jó tehát a mezıre kirohant a mivel? a bone
80 S : a csonttal
81 T : a csontjával így van he was going to eat by himself a himself-et azért jó volna
hogyha odaírnátok alulra mert azt nem hiszem hogy tudni fogjátok vagy a
szótárba pontosabban himself tehát ı saját maga egyedül akarta megenni
ugye nem akart vele senkivel se osztozkodni himself tehát igen saját maga

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saját maga a himself az saját maga majd ezeket a visszaható névmásokat

majd tanulni fogjuk de nem mostanában ı himself the dog came to a stream a
stream ott van hogy egy micsoda a stream?
82 S : ö patak
83 T : patak így van tehát elérkezett hová? egy
84 S : patakhoz?
85 T : patakhoz there was a narrow bridge across it mi az a bridge?
86 S : híd
87 S : híd
88 T : nahát remélem mindenki emlékszik hogy London Bridge is falling down
((teacher singing)) ugye azon szerepeltek egyesek ugye? ok tehát volt egy
narrow a narrow az viszont mit jelent a narrow? yes szótárfüzet dictionary
please
89 S : (xxxx)
90 T : hát akkor miért ezért kéne tudni hölgyem nem reklamálni kéne hanem elı
kéne venni a szótárt és akkor vagy megnézni ott ha annyira tudod ha meg
nem akkor még egyszer inkább kiírni narrow az pedig keskeny keskeny tehát
elérkezett egy keskeny hídhoz vagy ott volt egy keskeny híd a pataknál ugye?
the dog walked onto the bridge and looked into the water na ez mi történt a
kutyával? Felsétált a
91 S : hídra és
92 T : hídra és
93 S : benézett a vízbe
94 T : vízbe így van belenézett a vízbe yes he could see his own shadow in the water a
shadow az meg van adva
95 S : árnyékot
96 T : így van árnyékot is jelent de itt most nem azt jelenti hanem a tükörkép így
van
tehát hogy látta a saját tükörképét a hol?
97 Ss : vízben
98 T : vízben így van
99 S : csak egy kérdés hogy az „ék” az mit jelent? ((from the „árnyék” which is
written at the bottom of the paper as the Hungarian translation for shadow.
„Shadow” = tükörkép árnyék. „ék” would be a different word in Hungarian))
100 T : nem érdekes nyuszikám ezzel nem foglalkozok ezzel foglalkozok jó? he
thought it was another dog with a big bone in his mouth tehát mit gondolt hogy
mi volt az?
101 S : mm egy másik kutya egy nagyobb
102 S : egy nagy csonttal
103 T : csonttal a
104 S : szájában
105 T : a szájában tehát amikor belenézett a tükörbe akkor ezt látta the greedy dog
thought the bone in the water looked much bigger than the one he had stolen
from the butcher tehát ez a mohó kiskutya mit gondolt a csonttal a szájában
azt gondolta ugye Dalma hogy (2.0) hogy mi a gond drága szívem és igen azt
hiszem egy székkel arrébb fogsz ülni állandóan karattyoltok ott a Áronnal
most nem hiszem hogy valamit kellene neked éppenséggel most megtárgyalni
pont a Áronnal meg kell valamit tárgyalni?
106 S : nem
107 T : hát akkor meg? Na majd kíváncsi vagyok hogyha ezt elmondom vagy
lefordítom és utána visszakérdezem fogod-e tudni hogy mirıl volt szó (2.0)
tehát ott tartottunk hogy a mohó kutya ı mikor látta a tükörképét ugye azt
látta hogy ott van egy másik kutya amelyiknek a csontja viszont sokkal
nagyobb mint ı amit ellopott a hentestıl the greedy dog dropped the bone from
his mouth mit csinált ez a mohó kutyus?
108 S : elejtette
109 T : elejtette a csontját a száj kiejtette a szájából it fell into the water and was lost
hát mi történt a csonttal?
110 S : beleesett a vízbe és
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112 S : elveszett
113 T : elveszett így van he jumped into the water to snatch the bigger bone from the
other dog beugrott a vízbe hogy mit csináljon? elvegye a másik kutyától azt a
nagyobb csontot the greedy dog jumped into the water with a big splash
114 S : beugrott a
115 T : vízbe
116 S : vízbe és egy nagyot csobbant
117 T : csobbant így van splash he looked everywhere but he couldn’t see the other dog
mindenfelé nézelıdött de
118 S : nem látta
119 T : nem látta sehol a másik kutyát his shadow had gone és nemcsak a kutyát nem
látta hanem a árnyék nem árnyék hanem mi a tükörképe is teljesen eltőnt
the silly dog went home hungry a buta kutya hogy ment haza?
120 Ss : éhesen
121 T : éhesen így van he’s lost his bone and got nothing because he had been too
greedy elveszítette a saját csontját és nem kapott semmit mert hogy ı mi
volt?
122 Ss : mohó
123 T : nagyon mohó túl mohó volt így van ok
na akkor nagyjából most már mindenki tudja hogy mirıl szól a történet
úgyhogy itt vannak kérdések a másik oldalon so there are some questions on
the other side and answer the questions what did the dog do in the butcher’s
shop? Ákoska what did the dog do in the butcher’s shop?
124 S : ı
125 T : aki okos az gyorsan elkezdi piszkosul keresni mert itt van benne a szövegbe
nem kell fejbıl
126 S : the greedy ı greedy dog went
127 T : mm what did he do?
128 S : the greedy dog ı stole ı
129 T : a big bone yes that’s right és akkor így kell rá válaszolni jó? tehát kikeresitek
a válaszokat jó úgyhogy please answer the questions now ok? (24.0)
kikapcsolhatom? ok ((teacher asking in second 6 whether she could have the
mike turned off)) ugye nem felejtitek el gyerekek hogy múltidıbe kell
válaszolni ugye? látjátok mindegyik did-del kezdıdik úgyhogy tessék nagyon
figyelni a válaszokkal (22.0)
130 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
131 T : snatch ö it’s in the in the in the text próbáld kitalálni a szövegbıl nyuszikám de
ott van benne igen
132 S : (xxxx)
133 T : mm az melyik kérdés? hányadik kérdés?
134 S : why did the dog jump into the water?
135 T : aa why did the jump mhm mhm because he yes because he wanted to snatch the
bigger bone from the other dog (5.0)
136 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx) ((It seems that the student asked the teacher who was walking
around if she had to do the second exercise too and she asked her to ask in
English. The researcher asked about this incident in the interview))
137 T : Móni in English please (3.0) only exercise one please ok? exercise one only
answer the questions why did the dog jump into the water? why?
138 S : (xxxx)
139 T : mhm (54.0) ((teacher turning page in diary in sec 20)) Kristóf is absent today yes
Kristóf is absent today yes ok good not good but what can we do? (24.0) hurry up
please hurry up please ok? Aki még csak a második kérdésnél tartana az egy
kicsit húzzon bele jó mert most már legalább a negyediknél kéne már lenni
meg az ötödiknél
140 S : én a negyediket csinálom
141 T : yes good that’s good
142 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx?)
143 T : one two three four five six seven questions yes (19.0) so yes what’s the problem?
(2.0) ((pupil showing question to teacher)) why did the dog eat nothing? because
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from his mouth and couldn’t get the bigger one (19.0) hurry up please hurry up
(23.0) yes why couldn’t the butcher catch the dog? Miért nem tudta elfogni a
hentes a kutyát?
144 S : mert gyorsan futott
145 T : hát ezt kell beírni ott van benne a szövegbe (4.0) Vivi hurry up please very you
are very slow (19.0) ok two more minutes and then you have to finish it ok? so
two more minutes no more two more minutes (16.0) yes but the whole sentence
please not two words a whole sentence please ok? so the dog mm tadada yes?
teljes mondattal kérek szépen válaszolni mer itt pont az a lényeg hogy az
igének a második alakját kell használni majd a válaszban ugye? úgyhogy
erre kérem szépen odafigyelni és mindenki a teljes mondattal válaszol nem
nem pedig csak fél mondattal jó? (18.0) mm mm ((not the good solution)) (9.0)
did you correct it? yes good and what about the first one? there’s not a whole
sentence ok correct it please (6.0) not not a greedy dog not a but the greedy dog
(10.0) ok let’s check it out together ok because it’s not very easy for you of
course so what did the dog do in the butcher’s shop? ö Zsuzsika
146 S : the dog
147 T : the dog or the big dog what did he do?
148 S : stole a bone
149 T : a bone tehát not he nem he lesz ott ugye mert nem tudjuk még a nemét hogy
most fiú vagy lánykutya the dog vagy the greedy dog stole a bone a big juicy
bone yes
150 S : the dog stole the big bone
151 T : yes the big a a big bone not the a big boneyes next question where didi it run with
the bone? Vivien
152 S : the dog ran to the stream
153 T : to a stream it’s ok but actually where is it? ran out
154 S : out
155 T : into the fields yes the greedy dog ran out into the fields correct it please the
greedy dog ran out into the no into the fields no
156 S : (xxxx)
157 T : I’m repeating it my dear I’m repeating it something else the greedy dog ran out
into the fields (xxxx xxxx) nézz csak ide itt van benne he ran out into the fields
with his bone csak onnan kellett volna kiírni
158 S : he
159 T : akkor he mindegy nem érdekes most nem az a lényeg hogy he vagy tök
mindegy she teljesen mindegy yes next question why did the dog jump into the
water? why did the dog jump into the water?
160 S : he thought he dropped the bone (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
161 T : ö from his mouth then because ö mm azért mert hogy kiejtette a szájából a
csontot azért?
162 S : nem
163 T : no yes because Ákoska
164 S : he looked into the water
165 T : he ? in the water so yes ok
166 S : he saw
167 T : another
168 S : dog
169 T : dog in his mouth olvasás nagyon gyengén megy ok hát lehet azt is írni hogy he
saw a ı he saw another dog with a big bone in his mouth in the water tehát he
saw another dog he saw another dog with a big bone or with a bigger bone in his
mouth (3.0) with a bigger bone in his mouth with a bigger he saw another dog
with a bigger bone with a bigger bone in his mouth yes good next (4.0) where did
it go at the end of the tale? Áron where did it go at the end of the tale?
170 S : he went home
171 T : home yes he went home yes he went home he went home why did the dog eat
nothing? why did the dog eat nothing? Fruzsina
172 S : he dropped the bone the stream
173 T : into the stream into the stream yes only to the water yes he dropped the bone into
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174 Ss : he dropped the bone from his

175 S : mouth
176 S : yes from his mouth it’s all right good
177 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
178 T : mm was lost akkor viszont was lost mhm vagy pedig because the bone fell into
the water and was lost itt van leírva az egész mondatot kell kiírni ám nemcsak
a felét ok yes next why couldn’t the butcher catch the dog? Zsoltika
179 S : because he ran away so fast
180 T : because he ran away fast a so az nem kell csak he ran away fast ok because he
ran away fast because he ran away fast yes good what did the dog see int he
water? ö who can answer it? Regina hát azért nézd már meg nyuszikám what
did the dog see int he water? meg kéne fordítani a lapot nyuszika talán és
akkor talán úgy könnyebb lesz egy kicsit ne bénázzál nyuszifül yes
181 S : his shadow
182 T : his ö shadow that’s right he he saw but a whole sentence please ok a whole
sentence tehát he
183 S : he
184 T : saw (4.0) tehát he saw his shadow in the water rakjuk össze a mondatot
Ákoskám jó? tehát he saw his shadow in the water yes
185 S : én mondhatom?
186 T : yes yes yes please
187 S : the dog saw his shadow int he water
188 T : yes the dog saw his shadow in the water very good ok ok now this was exercise
one now let’s have a look at exercise two ez sokkal könnyebb lesz mint az
elızı ugye mer itt már mit kell csak csinálni hogy ezek hamis ı mondatok és
ı nektek át kell alakítani úgy hogy egy igaz mondat legyen belıle ott van a
példa ö illetve nincs példa the butcher stole some meat hát a hentes lopta el a
husikát vagy a csontot? Hát nem is husit így van hanem
189 S : csontot
190 T : a csontot és ki lopott mit el a kutya így van tehát akkor át kéne alakítani
191 S : az egész mondatot?
192 T : yes the whole sentence please yes write the whole sentence please (4.0) yes Ili
193 S : the dog stole some bone ((wrong pronunciation))
194 T : Bone a nem some bone
195 S : a bone
196 T : nem some a some az nem kell ott így van hanem a big bone ö tehát the dog
stole a big bone yes next one ö translate it please the butcher
197 S : the butcher jumped into the stream
198 T : mhm so it wasn’t the butcher but who was it? it was
199 S : dog
200 T : the dog who jumped into the stream yes (6.0) so it wasn’t the butcher but it ws
the dog who jumped into the stream (4.0) next mm Ákoska read it please
201 S : the dog fell into the water
202 T : mhm (8.0)
203 S : nem a (4.0)
204 T : mm yes yes
205 S : nem a kutya esett bele a vízbe
206 T : yes that’s right it wasn’t the dog actually but it was the
207 S : bone
208 T&Ss : bone
209 T : yes the bone fell into the water (14.0) ok Vivien next please the greedy
210 S : the greedy dog couldn’t ((wrong pronunciation))
211 T : couldn’t couldn’t
212 S : couldn’t
213 T : mhm
214 S : couldn’t eat the bone because another
215 T : another another még egyszer another
216 S : another dog
217 T : ate it yes (6.0) couldn’t eat the bone tehát nem tudta megenni a csontot miért
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ide leírva de mi lesz viszont a jó válasz? (2.0)

218 S : the greedy dog
219 T : couldn’t
220 S : couldn’t ((struggling with the pronunciation))
221 T : jaj Istenem hát ez nem igaz hogy olyan nehéz szó nyuszikám ez tök egyszerő
szó couldn’t eat
222 S : the bone because
223 T : és akkor gyorsan fordítsál lapozzál egyet és nézd meg hogy miér nem
224 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
225 T : because he
226 S : because he had been greedy
227 T : oo greedy hát nem hiszem hogy ezért nem tudta megenni mmmm nono mit
írtál Áron erre? because
228 S : semmit sem mert csak azért
229 T : hát miért nem tudta megenni a csontot?
230 S : mert elejtette
231 T : hát mert valószínőleg kieshetett a igen elejtette valószínőleg hát persze
Ákoska
232 S : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
233 T : ı he dropped the bone from his mouth he dropped the bone from his mouth ott
van benne a szövegbe gyerekek csak ki kéne keresni a szövegbıl nem kell
újat kitalálni csak a szövegbıl kell kikeresni csak azt kell átírni jóformán a
másik felét so the greedy dog couldn’t eat the bone because he dropped the bone
from his mouth and it fell into the water (8.0) Lili hurry up please don’t be lazy
(7.0) ok the next one the dog didn’t go home Áron
234 S : ı nem (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
235 T : no no just in correct it please ok?
236 S : the dog ö didn’t eat the bone
237 T : mm nem the sentence is like that the dog didn’t go home mi ebben a hiba?
238 S : the dog ö
239 S : the dog
240 T : hát ezt pedig nem kéne megnézni
241 S : the dog the dog went ? went out
242 T : igen és a go-t nem tudjuk áttenni múltidıbe hogy went? nem tudjuk a
második alakját uram ((teacher saying it in French)) hát akkor nem hiszem
hogy azt meg kéne nézni mondjuk a papírról már tehát the dog went home
ennyi a különbség nem ö tagadó mondat kell hanem állító mondat és csak át
kell se semmi turpisság nincs benne csak egy nagyon picike amit észre kell
venni hogy nem tagadó hanem egy állító mondat kell és persze akkor ugye
kiesik a didn’t és a go-ból lesz a^
243 S : went
244 T : went így van ok the dog wanted to hide the bone at the bridge (2.0) mhm Lili
translate it please (6.0) hát mi az a hide ott kezdıdik ez is rendhagyó ige és
már tanultuk
245 S : ı hide hide it away ö elrejteni
246 T : elrejteni így van és akkor ez mit jelent ez a mondat hogy a kutya mit akart
csinálni?
247 S : el akarta rejteni a csontot a
248 T : a hídnál a hídnál és tényleg el akarta rejteni vagy pedig mást akart vele
csinálni?
249 S : ı he didn’t
250 T : hát lehet áttenni tagadóba he didn’t want to hide the bone hanem viszont itt
inkább mást kéne kicserélni
251 S : the dog wanted to eat the
252 T : yes
253 S : ate the bone
254 T : eat eat wanted to eat
255 S : eat the bone at the bridge
256 T : yes the dog wanted to eat the bone hát nem elrejteni akarta ugye ott a hídnál a
a csontot hanem mit akart vele csinálni? megenni csak annyit kellett

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kicserélni hogy nem hide hanem eat

257 S : miért jelenidıben van?
258 T : hát mert nézd meg elıtte mi van ott van az hogy wan^
259 T&S : ^ted
260 T : és utána ott van az hogy to hát és akkor utána már csak jelenidı jöhet nem?
nem jöhet a múltidı még egyszer két múltidı egymás után az kizárva és egy
utolsó feladat van össze kell párosítani a fıneveket a melléknevekkel na
nézzük akkor yes narrow az mivel párosul? narrow
261 S : bridge
262 S : bridge
263 T : bridge yes narrow bridge just a moment ok just a moment don’t hurry up so
narrow bridge juicy
264 S : bone
265 S : bone
266 T : bone yes greedy
267 Ss : dog
268 T : dog ugye ezért mondtam slow
269 Ss : butcher ((trying to pronounce it))
270 T : butcher butcher butcher yes slow butcher ok and we are ready with this ok now
I’m going to ask you some questions a házi feladat egyébként az lesz what will
be your homework? hogy you have to read it very well the tale tehát hogy jól
kell olvasni micsodát? a mesét és én ezeket a kérdéseket amikre most
válaszoltunk fel fogom holnap tenni és aztán mindenkinek tudnia kell vála
megválaszolni és fejbıl mondanom se kell nem pedig a izébıl onnan a lapról
ok now m I’m going to ask you some questions in the past tense so be careful ok
what time did you get up this morning?
271 S : I get up
272 T : aaaa what time did you get up this morning?
273 S : ı did I
274 T : no no no no no no did at all Zsuzsika
275 S : I got up at seven o’clock
276 T : Ákoska wake up my dear yes I got up at seven o’clock what time did you go to
bed last night?
277 S : I went to ö bed at nine o’clock
278 T : at nine o’clock yes ok where were you at the weekend? where were you at the
weekend?
279 S : I was at the weekend
280 T : no at the weekend it’s the end yes I was
281 S : I was at home
282 T : at the weekend yes good ok Lili ö let’s see pf ö where did you go on holiday?
where did you go on holiday last year or last summer?
283 S : I went
284 T : yes I went very good I went to
285 S : to
286 T : where did you go?
287 S : the country
288 T : to the country I went to the country yes I went to the country that’s right good ö
Zsoltika ö where were you yesterday morning? where were you yesterday
morning? where were you yesterday morning?
289 S : I was
290 T : cs
291 S : at home
292 T : you were yes you were at home
293 Ss : at school
294 T : at school that’s right in the morning you were at school yes maybe in the evening
you were at home but not in the morning ok ö Regina am let’s see pf ö mmm yes
what time did you come to school today? what time did you come to school?
295 S : I came
296 T : mhm
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298 T : at
299 S : at (3.0) half past ö seven
300 T : seven half past seven that’s all nincsen o’clock ugye mert hogy nem egész óra
yes that’s right ok at half past seven good ö what time did you go home yesterday
from school? what time did you go home from school
301 S : I (xxxx)
302 T : mm what time did you go home from school go
303 S : from the school?
304 T : nem csak from school
305 S : went
306 T : I went yes I went
307 S : (xxxx)
308 T : home
309 S : home from school at on
310 T : at one o’clock yes very good at one o’clock yes ö Áron did you like the tale? did
you like the greedy dog the tale did you like it? (2.0) yes I did you like tha tale?
311 S : I did
312 T : mm wake up ok ok ö Vivien aa the next question is öm questions are always
difficult to ask aa let me see this one yes e yes what did you do yesterday
afternoon? what did you do yesterday afternoon? (4.0)
313 S : I did
314 T : hát attól függ hogy mit csináltál az nem biztos hogy fog kelleni hát mit
csináltál tegnap délután? hát akkor azt kell mondani akkor viszont semmi
did nincsen
az nem biztos hogy fog kelleni
315 S : I
316 T : mhm I (3.0) yes
317 S : I was at home
318 T : I was at home I was at home yes ok ö yes Patricia when did you buy this t-shirt?
when did you buy this t-shirt? (xxxx)
319 S : buy
320 T : I
321 S : I
322 T : be careful
323 S : I bought
324 T : yes I bought it mm mondjuk múlt hónapban
325 S : last
326 T : last
327 S : mondhatom?
328 T : ok just a moment cool down cool down a little bit ok help her
329 S : last month
330 T : last month month ok last month ok yes öö zs zs aha yes Ili did you read the other
tale did you read the other tale yesterday? the which one the lion and the mouse
did you read it yesterday?
331 S : I read ö
332 T : I read it yes I read it ok very good I read it very good ok aa Zsuzsika did you
bring your your English book with you today?
333 S : mm yes I brought
334 T : yes I brought vagy I bro akkor brought it vagy yes I csak röviden
335 S : yes I did
336 T : did did did you múltidıbe vagyunk végig jó? yes I did ok what else I think
that’s all yes Ákoska o Ákoska how did you sleep last night? did you sleep well
or not so well? how did you sleep last night?
337 S : ö I slept (xxxx)
338 T : nonono how how how did you sleep? did you sleep well or not so well? well
hogy jól aludtál vagy nem annyira jól aludtál
339 S : I slept ı
340 T : I slept
341 S : I slept well
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poster here for you look at the blackboard please ok I hope you will see it
((teacher placing poster)) we’ve got two more minutes last two minutes ok so this
is a typical house yes a normal house ok so how many rooms are there in the
house tell me please o stay there don’t get off ? Áron how many rooms are there
altogether? tell me please you can you can come closer if you want if you can’t
see it you can come closer you can closer lehet közelebb jönni hogyha valaki
nem látja
343 S : one one two three
344 T : but go back a little bit because ? Fruzsina can’t see it ok so how many rooms are
there altogether?
345 S : eight eight rooms
346 T : there are
347 S : there are eight rooms int he house
348 T : in the house yes what is she doing here? what is she doing here in the bedroom?
what is she doing?
349 S : (xxxx?)
350 T : no no anybody who can answer the question?
351 S : she
352 T : she is what is she doing?
353 S : hajtogatja a ruhákat
354 T : ı no no no no she is tidying her bedroom she is nem hajtogatja a szobáját
hanem csak elrakja a ruhát she is tidying the bedroom vagy rendet rak a a
hol? a hálószobában yes ok what is she doing what is she doing in the
livingroom? Áron can’t you see it go back you should see it even from there not
so close no no stand next to Dalma not in front of Dalma but next to Dalma next
to yes that’s right good ok so what is she doing?
355 S : she
356 T : Piri what is she doing? (4.0)
357 S : (xxxx)
358 T : what is she doing? (3.0) yes Fruzsina
359 S : she sat on the
360 T : she is si^ si^
361 S : si^
362 T : ^ting she is sitting yes she is sitting ont he sofa yes and
363 S : sok minden van
364 T : yes and she is drinking what?
365 S : drinking ?
366 T : champagne she is drinking champagne that’s right ok ö what is the what is the
dog doing here? Yes
367 S : the dog is sleeping
368 T : is sleeping where? on^
369 S : on the pillow
370 T : on a pillow yes on a pillow very good ö what is he doing here? what is he doing ö
Sarolt what is he doing? (4.0) yes ö Zsolti
371 S : she makes
372 T : she? she?
373 S : he makes
374 T : he is
375 S : make
376 T : king tea figyelj csak az igeidıragokat amiket most kérdezek folyamatos
jelenben vagyunk semmi idıben nem vagyunk már múltidıben a cake he is
making a cake yes and what is he doing here in the garage or in front of the
garage? Fruzsina
377 S : she is
378 T : she?
379 S : he (xxxx)
380 T : he what is he doing? What is he doing?
381 S : he is cleaning (xxxx)
382 T : the car or he is washing the car ok thank you very much sit down ok good this is
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Appendix 8

Interview with Teachers

Teacher Franciska

Date of lesson 09.03.2006

Class P6
Date of interview 09.03.2006

1 R : well if you want to talk about it please tell me just now and to the machine, as you
know this little machine already ((the teacher started to tell me things at once when
the lesson finished, so I switched on the tape-recorder.))
2 T : you can switch it on
3 R : it was a really good lesson
4 T : well, this was about when I spoke Hungarian almost all the time, as I had to
explain the theory, I had to explain
5 R : yeah, yeah
6 T : from the end of the lesson what is missing is it is because of the tests well as I had
given them out at the beginning because they had been pestering me for days to
give them out so I could not do it not to give them out (3.0) well what we could not
put into the lesson was to translate the text up till the end, they do understand what
the difference is, how I do it is not to start with the text first but start with the
grammar so we go through it again
7 R : yeah
8 T : to mmm tidy it up in everybody’s head so they will know the grammar and then,
do it would have been that that after they translate it well because they could do it
fast, they could translate it, then we would have acted it out
9 R : yeah, and so
10 T : we would have practised it more
11 R : and the grammar what is in it, well the grammar was in the text and so
12 T : yes the text is built on the grammar, so
13 R : and so (xxxx xxxx)
14 T : the grammar?
15 R : yes
16 T : well, well (2.0)
17 R : so how did you do it? I have not recorded the lesson you know this time
18 T : last lesson we started with
19 R : not that but today’s one
20 T : this lesson?
21 R : yes, yes
22 T : well (3.0) this was (3.0) they had a similar homework, as we had already started
this during the last lesson,
23 R : yeah
24 T : we started to go through it again, as we had learnt this before, but this time to
compare the two the Simple Present and the Present Continuous tenses, so this was
the homework, so we checked if everybody had managed to put the (correct form
of) verbs into the sentences
25 R : yes
26 T : Simple Present or Present Continuous were the sentences, and so was it successful?
Well, there were mistakes, but all together it was successful, (4.0) er I had
photocopied for them er a little poem, in one of them it was only Present Simple
Tense in the sentences, in the other the and the rules were written underneath the
poems, in Hungarian, which we do not have in this book ((the course book)) a bit
wait please a bit ((students are trying to get into the classroom for the next lesson))
(5.0) so this is not in the book, so they will know it from this (poem) those who
until now the ones who did not understand it up till now, because we had written it
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have to translate it, so it will be the same type of homework as before to translate
the sentence, and then well (2.0) we started with the text, which had some sound
effects, ((laughter)) it had some sound effects
27 R : yes ((laughter))
28 T : from the tape and so they heard that this activity is happening now, they are
playing table tennis now, he is lifting the weights now, he is making a noise, they
like they liked this very much
29 R : yes ((laughter))
30 T : they could hear it and see it, I was looking at you thinking wondering what you
were thinking, because they do not usually think that he is lifting the weights, but
((laughter)) well, so from this (1.0) they could see that they saw the sentence
written down, and hear that it is now, it is happening now, so everywhere I tried I
tried to the the to show the difference, that it is often er the activity is done often or
it is right now, and I think I think that at the end of the lesson well (4.0) they kind
of got the idea
31 R : maybe it is a silly question, but how did you see that they got the idea?
32 T : how did I see it? For example from the text well they translated it very well, as you
have heard it, I think they did it very well, they did understand it and translate it.
What was missing was the end of the lesson, unfortunately this was missing, that
we could not translate it till the end, so this will happen in the next lesson, and to
act it out. I would have also given sentences (2.0) to translate and also some
situations to act out (1.0) I would have asked them that is what we did not do, but
one lesson is only 45 minutes, I would have asked them about their everyday
habits, for example do you go, to have some hobbies, how often do you go, or
never, you never go, so this we did not have
33 R : yes. And at the very beginning when you gave out the tests, is it how you do it, to
go through it together?
34 T : yes, we usually go through it together, we even correct it and write it down,
35 R : yeah
36 T : but I did not want to waste time with this, because you would have only seen us
correcting the test so we just did it orally
37 R : so you do it in writing?
38 T : yes, we write it down, this we did not do this time, we just talked it through
quickly, but other times we do it writing, and also (2.0) I have not put the marks
into the teacher’s diary, but this is just a small detail, as the teacher’s diary did not
come ((when the class is divided into two the ones who go to another classroom
usually take the diary with them, then after the teacher of that group writes on the
absent people and the marks, if there are any, then one student takes it back to the
other teacher)) but they were not that great
39 R : how do you mean not that great?
40 T : there was nobody who got mark 5 (best), there were mark 4s, there was a mark 1
too ((fail)), so in my opinion the results are not that good
41 R : and what do you think about this? Or how do you feel?
42 T : what do I think? (4.0) well, at the end I do not understand, because because we
have practised it a lot and when we summarised it, it seemed that they could do it,
in my opinion er er er it was not difficult and er they just did it too quickly, it was
not difficult, so they they probably thought that they would do it easily and they
could not, they should have paid attention more closely. There were small mistakes
like er like er like (1.0) there was an exercise to put together so there were kind of
er there were letters mixed up and so put them together to make a word, and s/he
put it together wrongly, and so I cannot accept that because the task was there to
write down the word correctly, the letters of colours are mixed the yellow s/he
cannot put together then then it is 0 point. So like this
43 R : yeah, it is if they lose they lose 4 points then it is mark 4 already? ((the marking
was still on the board and the researcher is working out the points))
44 T : yes, yes, or for example the one ones, we have already learned this in primary 4,
the words instead of the nouns, so you see, they are not paying enough attention,
the ‘ones’ instead the word ‘ones’ s/he only writes ‘one’, instead of the word
teachers, but then it is not correct as the task was there exactly the distinguish
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mistakes, they do not think, like this (2.0)

45 R : and do they correct it themselves (written)?
46 T : yes, we correct them
47 R : on the paper in the test itself, above or?
48 T : no, they are not allowed to correct the test itself, what happens, we write in the
exercise book number of the lesson, ‘correction’, correction and we write down the
mistakes exercise by exercise and they they just have to write in the exercise book
the ones they had a mistake that was not correct, every time this is how we correct
it
49 R : so today you did not do it because of me?
50 T : yes, that is why we did not do it ((laughter)), but (2.0) there are two (2.0) two
lessons before when we had written the test, and I and I could not correct them,
because because of the personal problems, as I am moving house as well I did not
even have time to die, let alone to correct tests, and during the last lesson I did
promise that they would get them this time. But if I give the tests into their hands
then we must talk through the mistakes
51 R : yes
52 T : that’s why it happened like this, as you came, but because I had promised to give
them out, but it was different how we corrected them, we just ran through them,
but I will give them out again ((she collected them at the end of the lesson)) I think
because of the marks I collected the tests back, so we will look through them again
and then we will write the marks into the teacher’s diary too.
53 R : so you really gave them out to calm them down
54 T : to calm them down, yes, unfortunately they came to me every day and very
strongly they asked me ((laughter)) tests tests!
55 R : they were anxious
56 T : yes, they were look they are funny ((the students are trying to come into the
classroom again))
57 R : do they want to come in?
58 T : ((laughter)) that’s all I can say
59 R : thank you
60 T : next time we will continue this, the same topic, and the ones we missed this time
61 R : yeah
62 T : and what will happen the the sport is the topic, so the title is the sport centre, this is
the title of the chapter, ((the bell is ringing)) the different sports are coming, the
names of the different sports, body parts, ((the students have come in and the noise
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Teacher Gizi

Date of lesson 06.03.2006

Class P6
Date of interview 06.03.2006

1 T : here is the mike, sit down, (2.0) what I wanted to say that it is a bit slower because
we are working on the two verb tenses at the same time. We have learnt the Simple
Past and the Simple Future, and as you can see it, I am mixing them in the lesson
now
2 R : mmm
3 T : what I would like is for them to know it even when wakened from their dreams
what the ‘future tense’ is or the ‘past’ and that they do not mix it. Well, the first
part of the lesson was mainly about the ‘past’, the second part was mostly about the
‘future’, but now they are at that level that they can be mixed a bit, and ask them
4 R : mmm
5 T : that is what I wanted to say to you
6 R of course
7 T : for you to understand. Please a bit quieter ((to the rest of the class who is just
leaving the classroom))
8 R : I would like to ask what were you happy with? About the lesson?
9 T : well, to tell the truth, to tell the truth, with this class, with this class I am usually
happy,
10 R : yeah
11 T : because I think that they are much further on than the others who are the same age
12 R : which year are they at? I have forgotten
13 T : year six, six
14 R : yeah
15 T : so I think I think I goes very well, once or twice I have to remind them as you have
seen I put up on the board or rather wrote it up that ‘regular verbs’ and ‘irregular
verbs’, sometimes we have to bring this up, but when they realise, that oh my god,
I know what this is all about, from then on it goes well.
16 R : are they not going, Go go. ((to the students still hanging around)) Well, I would
like to talk about to talk about the lesson, well, that what kind what kind
17 T : this was a practice lesson totally a practising one, that’s right, because from now on
what I really want is? Bye bye ((to the students leaving)) that in practice, even if I
wake them up from their sleep they could use it ((laughter)) the Simple Past and
the Future tenses, and also, of course, they have to learn the basics to be able to
move on. For example to learn the Present Perfect Tense, I would only be able to
teach them if they totally know the Simple Present is drilled into them, for
example, so well, this was the aim of the lesson, and from now on we are going to
have many lessons to practise like this. I think something is good, they can learn it
totally if we practise it all the time
18 R : so what were you doing, what was helping this aim
19 T : you mean teaching materials?
20 R : not really, whatever you were doing today, as you know we have not recorded the
lesson
21 T : okay, so first I gave out, as I had been promising for a long time, the ‘irregular
verbs’ and I asked them to underline the ones we had already learnt, and I also
taught a few new ones. But they have heard those ones too before, so I did not ask
any absolutely new verbs. I made them underline the basic ones (verbs) and then of
course, I also had asked them to learn the Past Simple tense, but I have to stress
that we had learnt all of these before.
22 R : yeah
23 T : well, then I never ask new things, I always explain everything, so the reason I did
not this time was because they should have known it. I just wanted them to have a
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have to learn it, to make it clear. And then there was a text, I mean I am sorry, this
was just a little reminder, (the irregular verbs), ok, put them away, you will have to
learn them later, and we had learnt the directions before, so it was not totally new,
as you could see that there were some directions they know at once, so there was a
short exercise with the directions in the exercise book, a fill-in exercise, I have
given you a copy, so they had to complete it, mmm (3.0) we did not do a lot with
that, but next lesson we will work on the directions, but then I am going to give
them sentences, I will make up sentences like I get on the bus, or get off the bus
and so on, so on so on, for them to be able to use it, and so the part in the lesson
where we practised was, we had an older text, I did tell them that I know we have
worked with this before, they had to fill the gaps in this letter with verbs in the
Present Tense, and so I asked them that as this is done now in the present tense,
those verbs that are there, they needed to put them into Past Tense
24 R : yeah
25 T : so in practice they had a structure, that we had worked with about two or three
lessons before, that was a text in the Present Tense, and so I just simply built the
lesson on this, to ask them to put it into Past Tense. I think it is a good exercise,
because it is a known text, so that is the first thing, it is a known text. There were
one or two hiccups, that is when I told them to take out the little list when there
were verbs, we did not did not learn them, as I just said there are a few verbs we
did not, maybe I mentioned once or twice the past tense of them, but to make sure
what we did we checked their past tenses. I think next time, as I have given it out
for them to learn, next time I am sure they will know those too
26 R : yeah, yeah
27 T and when we finished with the Past Tense, that was when we moved onto the
Future Tense, the exercise I asked them to do, by the way it was homework, that
was that they had to do at home, and so we just checked it. What is not that easy
for them, but it is problematic for every class, is the time. They always have
problems with half past and half to, and quarter past and it needs that much to be
that time, that ones are a bit not very very easy.
28 R : mmm
29 T : but this is not just about them, but for everybody, as the way Hungarians say the
time is totally different, not totally but that that mixes up their little brains, they do
not know it so well that where they are at. To be honest, the problem here was not
the Future Tense, or the problem, as you could see it they did it no problem
30 R : yes yes
31 T they had problems with the time, the Future Tense I think is easy for them now, but
the time, it is quarter past or half to, children, Tony, I am still here ((teacher trying
to send out the students who are coming for the next lesson)) go out a bit, I am
happy
32 R : what I also wanted to ask, you asked them to read and translate and so would you
like to tell me a bit more about this? How was it?
33 T : it was not successful all the time, there are students who find this difficult too,
((bell is ringing)) but I always try mmm try not to tell but ask another child to help
their classmates because I think it is better for me not to say it, that mmm my son,
you did not know it, did it all wrong, but the other child maybe helps, maybe then
they would know it it is like this. Actually I ask them to translate a lot. Whatever
we say or I ask them to read it out loud, I ask them to (translate) if ten times ten
times, the important thing is for them to understand it. Once they have understood
it that is when I can tell them to put it into past or future or anything else. It is very
important, most important to understand the text. To understand it in Hungarian
what it is, afterwards think about it, how to say it in the future, you saw it, I asked
many times how they would say it, in the past, in Hungarian, and when they say it
how they would put it into the past that is when it is much easier in English too. So
my main aim is, at least that is what I think, maybe it is not right, maybe the
methodology is not good that I am following, but to understand it always, the child
should always understand what s/he is doing
34 R : yeah
35 T : I think it is very important. Because what can you build on afterwards? You cannot
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36 R : yes, if they do not understand it ((it was difficult not to disagree, but managed it))
And so what do you do if they do not understand?
37 T : if they do not understand, then I try to explain it, usually it is not very successful,
then I have to say it in Hungarian. I have to. That’s what I think, when we cannot
move on, and nobody knows it in the class, actually, here, with the word ‘visit’ I
swear to you that I did teach it, probably they forgot it, but I had to say it in
Hungarian, there’s no point for them to guess, of course you have to let them
guess, but when they are absolutely somewhere else, then I really have to help in
Hungarian. Otherwise how would they learn the word? I have no idea. I can
explain it in English, but if they do not understand it even then, in my opinion I
have to say some words in Hungarian, or one or two sentences,
38 R : sure
39 T : but we do not need to tell a whole sentence, only the words, to understand the
words, but I think it is not too bad, as you saw it, they were rather good
40 R : sure, it was good, very good
41 T : they are learning well, improving, and anyway I love them very much and I am
very proud of them because they are good they are good ((laughter)). To tell the
truth that I got them from year four I am teaching them from year four, but I did
not start teaching them in English, because they were not at that level, what I think
the child has to reach a certain level to be able them (in the TL), well, when I am
explaining the terms noun, or verb, well now I can tell them ‘noun’ or ‘verb’, but
this is not possible at younger years than six, for example a year four student may
not understand it, so in year four or five, although it also depends on the class
itself, and the level, but I did not did not dare to try it (to teach in the TL). I did not
even dare to teach them in the TL last year, now, in year six I think they are they
are ready for it, so they need to be ready to be able to think in that way, because
when I talk in English, I believe that changes the way of thinking a bit too. When
we start to translate, they know it, I often tell them, that if you were to start this
sentence from the back (to translate) it would sound much better, so it is a way of
thinking too, to use English, I do not just speak it, so it needs a certain way of
thinking, and I thought thought that they became ready for this now, that it is
possible. As I mentioned to you before, my year seven class is still not (ready for
me to use the TL)
42 R : mmm
43 T : so there there it would be a waste of time for me to speak English, they would only
look at me and wonder what I wanted, because their thinking is not ready,
grammatically they cannot follow it, so it does not depend on the class (the year) ,
but depends on the level. A year six student can be, let us say, at a higher level than
a year seven student, it does not matter that they are smaller, or younger, well, so it
is very difficult, for example in year seven maybe they would be expecting it too,
the parents, but no, I think no, they are not ready for me to teach them in English. It
is a question who thinks what, but this is what I think, and here I can teach a lesson
like this (using the TL most of the time), and in year four or five not
44 R : and you are going to do the teaching practice with them, is it right?
45 T : yes, yes, yes ((laughter))
46 R : when will it be?
47 T : in about three weeks, I do not know the exact date,
48 R : and you will be given a mark for that teaching and that will be the mark for the
university?
49 T : yes, yes yes yes yes, and I have chosen them because I really would like to do a
‘practice’ lesson, the kind you have just seen, so the lesson, during the lesson it
matters you can show what they have learnt up till then, as we can only practise
what we have learnt, and then (at the final practical teaching exam) I also would
like to show the verb tenses, that we know this one, we can use this one, we know
that one, we can use that one too. In my opinion practice matters a lot in language
learning, practising, practising, again and again, using it all the time, because this is
how we can go on, to learn more
50 R : of course. I would like to ask another question: how do you check and evaluate
them? Because at the beginning of the lesson you had a vocabulary test, and that is
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51 T : ((laughter)) yes, that is, well the assessment, it is a bit

52 R : I mean just right now, during today’s lesson
53 T : well, during this lesson what happened I talked it over with them that there will be
a vocabulary test,
54 R : and so how was that?
55 T : well, yes, because they are not always keen to learn the words, not always, not just
them, but usually students, and so this was at least I can check it, and as much what
I noticed the more vocabulary tests they have to write, they are forced to learn the
words every day, because if I did not make them write tests, well, nobody will
check and assess, we do not need to learn it, not like this, like that, so that is the
only way I can check it, to make them write it, and also this helps them in the
future with the big tests too, because I put words into those tests that I asked many
times in the vocabulary tests, so they cannot be surprised, I do not like when a
child puts up her/his hand and kind of Aunty Susan, what does this mean? Then I
can say: listen to me my son, you have written a vocabulary test with it five times,
full stop
56 R : I see
57 T : so from then on, this is kind of the teacher taking responsibility, we have talked
about it five times, I told you five times, asked you five times, so how is it you do
not know it? From then on, well, of course I am also responsible for what I teach,
but there is a point, a limit, from then on I say, the child has to do something too, to
learn too
58 R : of course
59 T : I cannot do anything with, if I really explain it, talk about it, ask it back eight
times, make them write tests five times and then they put up their hands and they
even say that we have not learnt them. Then I take out the test, put out five tests
and show them, it is in this and in that and in that, this is kind of covering the
teacher somehow too, we must do it, because the children are very crafty, and
cunning, when they reach an age, then they say not not this, so what I usually do is
to get a dictionary out ((children’s own vocabulary book where they write out the
new words in English and in Hungarian)) I have done this during the lesson too
60 R : yes
61 T : I have asked for a vocabulary book from a child, that is what I always do, because
they cannot say then that I am making up words that they have not learnt, I protect
myself, so I ask the vocabulary book from a child, that was here during the lesson,
they have written into it
62 R : was that the reason?
63 T yes, I always do the vocabulary tests like this, always, I ask a child to give me
her/his vocabulary book, it is sure that they have written it during the lesson, the
others had to write it down too, so from then on, they do not say a word
((laughter))
64 R : and so you tell them in Hungarian and they
65 T : that’s right,
66 R : I have also seen them sitting alone, at different desks
67 T : yes, that’s right
68 R : because this does not show if I record a lesson ((but I did not even record this one))
Was it on purpose that you left them sitting alone during the whole lesson?
69 T : no, no, no no, it was not on purpose, it was really because of the test, I usually
make them sit separately for the tests, somehow they did not ask me to let them sit
back to their usual place, maybe it was because of you,
70 R : yeah
71 T : usually what they do, they ask me, “ Aunty Susan, can we sit back?” Of course
they can sit back then, it is only for the tests I make them sit separately, there is not
such a strict regime, one desk one person, no, just for some reason, maybe because
you were here so they did not ask, ((laughter))
72 R : so did it have an influence that I was here?
73 T : yes, yes, yes, yes of course
74 R : did it influence the atmosphere too?
75 T : well, a little bit, they were a bit more less relaxed, but I think it is natural, well,
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school to check on the standards and give a report on the teacher, during the
communist regime)) I also behaved differently ((laughter)) of course, but today it
was not that different, just a bit I could feel it, yes
76 R : but were you still happy with them, their work?
77 T : yes, yes, you could come more often, because they were very disciplined
((laughter))
78 R : why, how is other times?
79 T : well, it is it is more relaxed, the lesson is more relaxed, they often interrupt and say
some interesting things, and then we laugh together, and joke and so on that is
what I saw yesterday, that happened
80 R : so today they did not interrupt?
81 T : no no, they behaved very well, but usually the atmosphere is good during the
lessons, it is not stressful, we often laugh together. I tell you, they are really very
mature, at year six, if you have seen, because of the acceleration, if you look at any
of them, they are in year six, they are big
82 R : yes, very tall, I was surprised
83 T : and they are very mature, that is why I am saying mm but actually I really love
them ((laughter)) not not just because mmm I do not know, somehow they just got
close to my heart, well, maybe that matters too, who knows it, how it is, because in
my opinion, not like this, but they also accept me, they often come and tell me how
horrible the other lessons were, then I try to stand up for the colleague, not to tell
me in front of me, do not say it, do not record this please ((and she tells me some
stories about some of the teachers)) I think you have to find a way to talk to the
children, the way that it is good for both of you, to be partners and then the lesson
goes much much better, much better. What happens in year seven, in year seven
they are teenagers and so on, they are not that accepting then, and even if I had the
same style with them like I did here, I did try it but it did not work.
84 R : what kind of style was it during this lesson? What is an accepting style? What are
you thinking?
85 T : well, to tell the truth, there is no problem like no, I do not want to open the book, I
do not want to do it, it happens in year seven, when they are young teenagers, oh, I
am not interested, whoever I am asking, not like here in this lesson, the little boy,
David, he did not say it because he did not know it for example, but in year seven I
ask and they do not want to
86 R : so here if they did not say it they did not know it, not because not wanting it
87 T : yes, in this class we do not have this at all, but but we have a partner relationship,
if there is a problem they tell me, here here if they do not say it is because they do
not know it. In year seven it is really like that, whatever I do during the lesson,
really, whatever, what happens, there is a boy, he does it all the time, all the time
he says like we have not learnt it yet, that is when I say here you have this is your
vocabulary test, have a look at it. They are really rebelling, maybe not against me
personally, because I did talk to other colleagues, they are like this with all the
others too, it is much more difficult to teach them like this. If you do not find the
way to talk to the class, and if you are not partners, and I think even there it did not
depend on me, because I do start it everywhere like this, and then either they accept
me or they do not. That is how the relationship is there (in year seven), to be honest
there is not a real problem with them either, they do whatever I tell them, but I can
see, like tell me the next sentence, I have not written it, why? Because I was not
interested in it. This is the typical teenager way, when
88 R : mmm
89 T : they are not interested, at all (4.0) not at all. That is why I am saying these ones
(year six) are very nice children
90 R : yes, very nice ((laughter)) thank you for letting me in and I could come some other
time too ((referring to the teacher requesting me to be there for disciplining))
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Teacher Hajni

Date of lesson 08.03.2006

Class P4
Date of interview 08.03.2006

1 T : are you going to switch on the machine now?

2 R : yes, I have just switched it on, wait a minute, I will put it here on the other side,
ok, so you can tell me now ((as she was really keen to start telling me about the
lesson once it was over))
3 T : so are you going to record it right now ((laughter))
4 R : yes, I will, so as you just said
5 T : so, how it happened, Andy is a very bright child,
6 R : yeah
7 T : but very much ‘good bye’ ((telling the students who are just leaving)) but finds it
very difficult find it very difficult to manage the constraints, that is one of the
things, and if there is a behaviour problem, it is only Andy, he finds it difficult to
sit, you can see that he is it is difficult
8 R : can we have a bit of quiet ((as the students are shouting))
9 T : I think we go upstairs then, because there may be an afternoon lesson here
((switched off tape recorder and on the way tried not to speak about the class))
10 R : yeah, let us sit down,
11 T : I think you can sit there, that chair has a cushion, ((laughter)) if it is like this, sit
there then, Ok, no shall I tell you, is it switched on?
12 R : yes
13 T : well, then I tell you about the class, well, it is all that Andy is the one who has
behaviour problems, here and during other lessons too, he is a very clever child
but finds it difficult to cope with failure, he is more easily tired too, often he does
not understand why they need to collect red points, or about the black, so so he is
a kind of difficult case. So he always needs to be talked to kindly, to calm him
down, but on the other hand his achievement is is good. Well, just now I think I
think the children were frightened. I did not even tell them that you were coming
but they probably saw that at the back at the back there was somebody, and they
were a bit more cautious, or cautious, mm they are very active, they are the most
active ones, and keen to work and really nice ones, one girl was missing today
who is a very good student, and also a boy who is an average about mark four
((five is best)). So they are kind of average
14 R : they were good
15 T : but I think they were a bit tired too, and also that there was somebody from
outside, maybe they did not get used to this until now, that people come in
sometimes, but it is a good thing, mmmmm we have just done
16 R : what were you happiest with?
17 T : well mmm
18 R : what was is that you were pleased with in this lesson?
19 T : well, well, I was not pleased at all,
20 R : anything?
21 T : well, there was somebody who remembered a word from long time ago, that we
learnt long ago and did not use for half a year, and so s/he remembered it, let us
say that is a good thing, mmmm (8.0) any other things, not really.
22 R : really?
23 T : not with other things, no, not really, well, maybe they did understand the ‘I you
he she it we you they’, and this is usually a problem, that is why I asked, if they
had learnt it in Hungarian, because this is always difficult, that’s why I say it, that
it is a problem even in year seven or eight (Hungarian does not distinguish
between he she and it!) For example if I say Tony, which personal pronoun do
you use instead? Or Tony and Mary, what do you use instead of them? This is a
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24 R : when did you teach them?

25 T : today really
26 R : and how did you help them to work out that instead of Tony it is it, that is what
they have to say?
27 T : mmm well, they did they did have some times ago in some of the exercises, that
for example we looked at a picture and there was a boy and a girl there, and then
‘he, she’
28 R : so they say
29 T : so they know it a bit but still, this is even in the older classes, I know it is a big
problem. Well, compared to that and also that it was the first time, it did kind of
become clearer.
30 R : it was good, let us then see the lesson
31 T : yes, there was a bit of revision, well, these kind of questions, these mm well, you
could see that they were frightened
32 R : yeah
33 T : there were a few of them, who were kind of a bit anxious, but these questions,
well in my opinion, if not really together, but half of the questions, those ones,
are asked in every lesson. Every lesson. There were some, how I did it this time,
kind of all the things we have learnt, so every child could say a sentence each.
That’s why it was
34 R : is it at the beginning of the lesson?
35 T yes, at the beginning of the lessons we always do this, what is the date, the time,
what is the weather like, today it was like is it raining or snowing, well, they kind
of know it a bit. That it is ‘sunny’. Well, mmm that (5.0) they are trying and so at
the beginning of the lesson we always have a bit of a chat a kind of a questioning.
36 R : yeah
37 T : then the singing too, we just learnt the Head and shoulders ((the title of the song))
last time, but this time it was a different song mm a different tune, with a different
tune from last year when we had learnt it, so that is why we did not even sing it
with the tape recorder this time as this would have been confusing for them. Last
time we had written a test
38 R : can we talk about today?
39 T : ok, but the last time we had written a test which was from the first unit of this
book,
40 R : today, today please
41 T : yes, but that is why it is a new lesson
42 R : oh, I see
43 T : and in this one the grammar there is a difficult grammar in this, this is the ‘to be’
conjugation
44 R : (xxxx)
45 T : well, we have just started this, so the so-called teaching of this it was the first
time today during this lesson.
46 R : yeah
47 T : so this this text will be about this (grammar) and that is what we are going to do
48 R : so what is it that you were doing? ((desperate to talk about the lesson)) what did
you do to teach them? Because you said it was not that great but somehow they
did manage it, so there must be something successful in it
49 T : well, we wrote it on the board, well, I wrote it up, the table of it ((I am you are he
is she is it is etc)) maybe this is not the way how it should be taught, but this way
they can see together,
50 R : why did you say that it may not be how it should be taught?
51 T : because mmm (4.0) there are some, for example in this book, it just highlights for
example it is just about third person singular, and not with the others, then it
practises that, but I think it would be better to see it all together, I you he/she/it
(in Hungarian just it) we you they, the forms of these, and then it is easier to say
only ‘you’ or ‘it’ or ‘we’, well, some of the children actually sensed it that, how
shall I say it, this ‘you’, why is it twice? What is it? ((in Hungarian you in
singular and you in plural are different)) and in lots of books, in a table like this
or in a mmm kind of exercise, sometimes it is just written ‘you are’ and the so-
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52 R : (xxxx)
53 T : but there are some other places, where there are both forms, and then the child,
you know, why is it there and why is it not there? But I think they did understand
it and so I have just written down plural,
54 R : yeah
55 T : in plural, if it is there then it means you. By the end of the lesson it was working
more or less, well, it was the first lesson, we are going to practise it. During the
previous lessons, to be able to connect here, for example it was: in the box, on the
table, under the chair, that was what we had been practising, because that was the
topic then, well, I thought that the ‘in the garden’ and the ‘in the kitchen’ would
be a bit better, but because it was a new word, partly a new word, long time ago
we had learnt it, but we did not really use it recently, the words kitchen and
garden, so maybe that made it a bit more difficult
56 R : so that was
57 T : yes, yes
58 R : in the garden and
59 T : yes, they had it in front of themselves, because it was first it was in the book, this
exercise, to match them, the subject with the mmm place mmm with the
predicate, with the is, it was ‘is’ everywhere, and with the with the place, using
the pictures of the book or rather the text. Well. Kind of they got the idea, we did
have less time for, because there are some, how shall I put it, some matches,
where there are more than one solution, well, well, according to the picture we
can only say one, let us say: Toni is in the garden. But on the other hand, it was
also possible that Toni is in the garden, Toni is phoning. The reason for this is not
only using the text from the text, but also, how shall I say it, the grammatical
structure, to use the it in a different sentence too.
60 R : so so first you used the structure from the board and then then you put it into a
sentence?
61 T : the the text, yes, and later on, well, it would have been a written exercise, but I
noticed that there was only a short time left, I had written five sentences, the ones,
these were Hungarian sentences, and they should have translated them, at the end
of the lesson we could do three orally. That was this.
62 R : and when you were working with the book, how did you do it?
63 T : well, about the book. We listened to the tape of course, bit by bit, to see if there
are any unknown words, I did not start with, but that was the plan, in the paper
what I had planned was to see the words, the ones I had thought that they were
unknown, the ones I wanted to ask them, but at the end (3.0) usually how we do it
as we did it just now, when we read it, in a short text, are there any unknown
words? Yes, if there is, we talk it over, today it was only the last word: ‘fetch’
that one that one they have never heard, that was the unknown word, (2.0) that
one we wrote it up on the board and into the vocabulary books,
64 R : so the difference is that you may ask about the whole text, if there are any
unknown words before you listen to the tape, or bit by bit, as you listen to the
tape you ask?
65 T : well, sometimes like this, this one, the reason why I wanted this one bit by bit is
because it is, well, it is not a cartoon, but there are, you know, there are some
stages, it was divided into different parts, so this was, two or three sentences it is
(2.0) kind of it is easier for them to understand, or they can, how shall I say it,
they realise if there are unknown words in it or not. If for example there is a fairy
tale, then I may I may help them with extra pictures and also the order of it, or,
how shall I say it, some basic things, and then and then, maybe at the end, I can
ask if there were unknown words, if yes, let’s underline it. But then, how shall I
say it, if the text is more difficult, then they underline them, then we go through
them one by one, all the words, and then we start kind of translating it, when they
all know, but as I said it, it depends on, the one today is a kind of easier text, as
you had seen it, or you could see it
66 R : I know it by heart, as I have taught this text from the old Project book ((laughter))
67 T : I see ((laughter))
68 R : and this text is the same
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on the tape, for them to understand.

70 R : yeah
71 T : so
72 R : so they had written out the words and
73 T : yes, we have written out the words, and then, during the next lesson, at the
beginning of the next lesson we will say a few sentences with these so called new
words, and then then we will try to act out the dialogue
74 R : yes, you have started it
75 T : yes, at the end of the lesson, but (2.0) there was not more time to do it
76 R : yeah. And when they did not know where they were, how was that? How did you
feel about it?
77 T : yes, that was the first, yes, there Andy started to read it, it was him again, and you
could see it that he was kind of he was mixed up a few times, What is it now?
How? Well, he is a strange person, but it does not matter. And he did not start
with the first sentence, but with the answer to the question. And the girls noticed
this at once, wow, here there should be a greeting first, well, it does not matter,
but if was a wrong order, and he did not want to accept this again, but at the end
he did understand it. Well, this is not easy either, from a dialogue to find out at
once that this is my part and this is yours.
78 R : that’s right.
79 T : because if it was like it was a whole text and there was a – mark there, then I
would probably know who is who, who comes next. It was not mm easy, (3.0) we
could have dealt with it quicker, that is how I would say it rather. (2.0) so now
they will practise it at home once or twice and (4.0) tomorrow I think it will go
well. They actually like performing, (2.0) well it is mostly the girls who help the
things,
80 R : yes, there were only three boys
81 T : there were three boys, the fourth was absent, but the boys the boys are kind of
quieter. Let me see, Andy has mark five (best) he is good, we have just written a
test, the last week one, and it had rather good results, ((turning the pages)) but not
as good as good as it is usually, (3.0) the first one well you may know that we
have just finished, at the beginning of February the book Chatterbox.
82 R : yes?
83 T : because they, last year they learnt it as an extra lesson, once a week, they are the
ones
84 R : yes yes ((I remembered her telling me about this last time))
85 T : once a week, we did the lesson Winnie the witch ((I recorded the lesson last
year)) so that is why I say that a few things they remembered, but we have not
even opened it since
86 R : yeah
87 T : they forgot a lot of things. And we have just finished the the so-called original
book, and this is the first chapter from the book Project, this is originally for year
five students. They are in year four, and that is why I say it, that considering that
it is for year five, that we started it in year five, the class you had seen last year,
these students can, how shall I say it, can join in quicker (5.0) we are at chapter
two with them, the year five students are at chapter four. That is why I say it that
it is better with them, and the results are better too, the tests in the autumn they
got mark 5 for, everybody got mark 5, ((laughter)) then the last mmm the last test
in the Chatterbox was 4.6% ((average)) there were a few mark 4 there, and from
this (chapter 4.3% (2.0) but this is good too, there were two students who got
mark 3, the rest were marks 4 and 5.
88 R : and what kind of questions are there?
89 T : well, from the lesson, there are exercises with vocabulary, and and and grammar,
complete the sentences, or descriptions, adjectives, well, as I say it, some of it is
vocabulary, the other part is grammar. But (3.0)
90 R : this is a very good result
91 T : but this is kind of good, I hope it is not getting worse, but considering that it is for
grade 5, and in grade 4, because, well, you know, even in Hungarian, if they do
not know it in Hungarian, the grammar tense, then it is even more difficult,
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93 T : and even, let us say, this lesson was a kind of (1.0) towards grammar, (3.0)
because they had to learn this, the other lessons, mmm but right now this is what
we learn, we could not do something different and so this was mm
94 R : you said that you were not that satisfied, how would you have wanted it better?
95 T : well, on one hand, more bravely they speak when I ask them, then, here Amy is
the one who once or twice says something wrong during the lesson, the one who
was sitting next to the window, the tall girl, mmmm the rest were, as I said it very
timid, they were timid, and usually they are more active, especially the middle
group (column)
96 R : they were not active enough?
97 T : yes, not active enough, or they were not how shall I say it mmm brave to try.
Because maybe s/he said something incorrectly, or might have said it, but
((whispering)) what would happen if? Well, here there is so much, right now it
was not a kind of lesson with red points, only one task from the exercise book
was where they got red points, right now, some other times they get two or three
point even, right now it was like this. Next time there will be red points, they will
get them for reading at the beginning of the lesson, they will be surely very active
98 R : did they know that it was was not a lesson with red points or just during the
lesson?
99 T : during the lesson, yes, it depends on the task. It depends on the task what kind
what kind it is
100 R : I see, so they will realise when mm it is happening
101 T : yes, yes,
102 R : it is not the case that some lessons are with red points and the others
103 T : oh, no no no no, you know it depends on the task, sometimes there is a reading
and they get a red point for it, sometimes they learn a short text, for example two
or three sentences, and then that is, or a rhyme
104 R : that little girl. Why did you give her? Because (xxxx)
105 T : she was without mistakes
106 R : yeah
107 T : for example, if the task is very easy, for example this was new material. So this
one mmm mmm well, she managed it only, because that ‘in the door’ and ‘at the
door’ that is that is difficult too,
108 R : yes, I noticed (xxxx xxxx)
109 T : this is difficult too, because this is different for the Hungarian too, or for example
‘at the school’ or ‘in the school’ this is so difficult, well we teach this for the
older ones, or play with this, so this is difficult because I say in the school (3.0)
and there if I say one of them it is about the institute, and the other is the building
itself, well, this is difficult the Hungarian in the Hungarian it is not the same
110 R : sure
111 T : so that’s why I say that the ‘at the door’ is a bit it was not too easy, this is why it
was not easy, but we did talk about it during the previous lessons, there were
situations too that: at the door I am standing and so in theory everybody should
have known it, this one, to do it, but (3.0) but not. But if we get a very easy task
in the exercise book or during the lesson or board work there they may not get a
red point
112 R : sure
113 T : so this is like this
114 R : yes, and what I noticed during your lesson that at the beginning you were
practising and then you kind of spoke English and when you started the new
material then and the grammar then it was kind of in Hungarian
115 T : yes, yes, well, you have seen it correctly, this is what I did not do because of
nervousness, how I should have done it ((laughter)) no no, as you know there is a
level of anxiety whoever is coming to visit you, but somehow mmm and for
example with this class this group we usually use English during most of the
lesson.
116 R : yeah
117 T : it is true though that it was a difficult a difficult grammar so I want them to know
this,
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119 T : we maybe I should have used it (English) more here, here

120 R : why?
121 T : well, mmm because because not just here but usually that is how I feel, if you
start, let us say, start chatting in Hungarian, then they are more likely to listen to
that and not to the English, this is about instructions, you see. But during the last
lesson we did the plural as grammar with them, we did say it there that is is
plural, it is singular
122 R : in Hungarian?
123 T : no, in English, that is how we wrote it up into the exercise book, and we also used
this, this is why I say it that ‘plural’ is as I said it before you know it, mmm but
124 R : so during today’s lesson, in the first part it was in in English (xxxx xxxx)
125 T : well, yes, because that was not that new, it was a kind of practice and it was
surely, I was sure that they would understand everything ((laughter))
126 R : it is important for them to understand
127 T : it is mmm important, and as I say it, with the grammar well I might have been
speaking more Hungarian mm but
128 R : whose opinion, yours or mine?
129 T : ((laughter)) well, I do not know what you think, but what I say, it is, I also think
that it should be more
130 R : (xxxx)
131 T : I am not sure, but probably more, but as I say it, mmm maybe the reason is
mmmm so they would surely understand it, if I say ‘I am’, and we had something
like this, just you did not hear it, but I did not want to get into it too much, there
were so of them who said ‘I’m’ because there are situations where in speech we
do not say ‘I am’ because ‘I am’ like this we use very rarely,
132 R : sure
133 T : so they said ‘I’m’, but we did not start to fuss about it, later on, that will be when
we deal with these shorter forms, and then well then this is it. (3.0) so this is, but
at the end well I do not really regret that here I kind of used Hungarian a bit more,
here, because I want them to be sure that: I am, ‘I am, you are’ and so on, for
them to know it, because this is not easy.
134 R : that’s right
135 T : I think I think it is not easy
136 R : and they are in grade 4
137 T : yes, especially that they are in grade 4, so they need a bit of, I am sure, especially
because I know that in higher grades in grade 7 or 8 it is still a problem, for
example using the pronouns, because there are exercises, for example there is a
sentence, it has a person’s name and the exercise is to change the sentence to put
in the personal pronouns in it. This is really difficult (3.0) and maybe because
they did not understand it at the beginning or even in Hungarian they do not know
it. Here I did see that they mmm
138 R : they were good
139 T : there was no problem with this (4.0) well, during the next lessons there will be
less mm kind of
140 R : I liked it very much, they were good, they did well
141 T : well, this was not as spectacular or showy the whole lesson, because this was
completely new material, so both the topic, as this was the first lesson of the
second chapter, and also the grammar was like that. Well, maybe in two or three
hours when they have practised it then they may be braver to do a dialogue
142 R : what would be a more showy lesson?
143 T : well, maybe a game in it, let’s say it, to have more games or a game I was not
prepared for this, what I mean I did not want to have a game for this mm this task,
that is that. There will be time mmm mmm when we are going to practise this
topic this grammar and partly the vocabulary, and so for example I will write up
the words on the board, mixed mm the mixed words from a sentence, make a
correct sentence or kind of a dialogue mmm I cut up a dialogue sentence by
sentence and they have to put it into the order of happening, and then even Andy
may realise which was the first sentence
144 R : so why did you not want to play today?
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it too,
146 R : yeah
147 T : maybe I could have put it in
148 R : I do not think just asking mm
149 T : but originally well because there was not enough time for it, and there is not
enough time for it, time time, not because I do not plan it, this is why I did not
even plan it
150 R : (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
151 T well, we could have done it, we could have done more grammar and then the
grammar part we could mmm how shall I say it, we could have strengthened it a
bit, to deepen it, or I could have just done the dialogues, but really I have done
both in one lesson, so this way
152 R : yeah
153 T : there was not enough time, but we could have just worked with the text or just
with the grammar but together the two mm
154 R : I liked it very much
155 T : so today that is the reason why we did not have a game thing, that is it. mmm
(5.0)
156 R : shall I switch it off or?
157 T : I do not know. Do you want to ask more?
158 R : ((switched the machine off, but switched it on after a minute again))
159 T : well, to tell the truth, at the teacher training college, that is what we have learnt,
we learnt, er we were talking about it, to use the target language as much as
possible, so in reality to use the target language during the whole lesson. Well,
with the older ones, the ones, grade 7 or 8, where where you can, although mine
are kind of weak groups, my own class, the ones in grade 6, we can do this, but as
I say, the grammar in grade 6 is different, in the English grammar, there we can
do lots of things, so-called explaining it in English, to help it out, I would not say
just exclusively, but to help it out, in English, because they can understand quite a
lot, so it is easier like this, but, I teach in grade 1 too, as from this February we
started to teach English too, one lesson per week, and there in the teacher’s
handbook, it explicitly says that the language I mean the grammar or a situation
or a word that er is not like TV that is obvious, as TV is TV, but let’s say,
suddenly I cannot tell an example, anything, ‘kitchen’ kitchen, because they may
not know it at once, so these we can, without any problems, say in Hungarian. So
this is it, whatever you say, so the grammar should be taught (in L1) but the older
the students the craftier they are, and then they can say, if the grammar I hear the
grammar in Hungarian, okay I understand it, whatever, but then they would also
want her to say this in Hungarian too, this too, so mmm the craftiness of the
students this is that mm this is not easy to say: from here you have to listen to me
speaking only English.
160 R : (xxxx xxxx)
161 T : do you understand?
162 R : sure, (xxxx xxxx)
163 T : so really, yes, that’s it
164 R : (xxxx xxxx)
165 T : yes, but that one, well with them it will be easier because they from grade 4, how
shall I put it, they got used to it. I do not say everything in English, but the words
for presenting the lesson and these ones are of course, mmm and mmm in grade 7
and 8 there are students who did not learn English in grade 4, there are some who
did learn it, some only started in grade 5, so there mm as I say it, but they are a
weak group, so it is more difficult with them, so this is why I am trying it, that
they would know something, of course to speak, but they cannot speak without
knowing the words, and with some grammar, so they need a base for this, it is not
like this, to speak just freely, but they need to know some bits of grammar.
Because this is how, the language teaching now is, let me see, to translate, not to
translate, only the grammar, only to speak, well, somehow all should be
integrated, because we need a bit from all to be able to say a sentence.
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168 R : and what is the aim? What would you like to achieve?
169 T : with this class or with others?
170 R : this class
171 T : well, for them to be able to speak bravely, but as I say it, this did not show it
totally, I know this, this is how it is, you could come to another lesson,
((laughter)) to see them, as they are really very very nice and willing to work, and
good students, they love working,
172 R : you think today they did not work well?
173 T : as I said it, they were a bit reserved, a bit a bit like like this, so, I could see it on
their faces, I could see it, they are not usually like this, but mmm today they were
like this. Today they were like this. Well, what I would like is that the students try
to speak English as much as possible, but it is really not not very easy, to make
them do it. When they are young they kind of try it, but when the words are
coming and more and more unknown words and also more grammar, then they
get to a stage to, wow, I may not dare to do it.
174 R : and so (xxxx xxxx)
175 T : I am not sure, for example, if we make a dialogue in Hungarian, let’s say, in that
topic or from the vocabulary, or what I mean if I put this together, then they could
put it together and act it out
176 R : so they can act things out
177 T : yes, that’s right. Yes, oh I am hungry not ((her tummy rumbled)) but this is, how
shall I say it, it takes time, ((laughter))
178 R : of course
179 T : for each of them to do it with the others
180 R : sure, (xxxx xxxx)
181 T : well, this is practice
182 R : so how do you practise it?
183 T : well, just do it, so to say we kind of work on with each of them,
184 R : so everybody has to say it
185 T : that’s right, so for example what I always do is to start with the better ones, so the
rest can kind of learn it a bit. So they would hear it again and again maybe, and
then they have to say it too. But we always wait for each other, the reason is so
they would not say that you do not know it or you are thinking, so no, we wait for
everybody mmm so yes, (3.09) and so they should not be afraid of saying
something wrong, because this is like this, sure, you know
186 R : yes, I noticed that they did make mistakes and nothing happened
187 T : no, no, we do not do, well this is not what we do, because it could happen, it does
happen, a few children may be able to be more self confident, but this is not
usually the case. So we do not let them laugh at each other, because they did not
say anything, or said something wrong. I always say that you should say the
wrong, in inverted commas, the wrong, then I can help you. (3.0)
188 R : yeah
189 T : because if you say that you would not want to say it because it may not be
correct, maybe it will be correct anyway, and if it is incorrect then I could correct
it, so for next time, what I mean
190 R : sure
191 T : mmm this is what I tell the older ones too, to speak, so then I can help
192 R : (xxxx xxxx)
193 T : and the other thing is that it is while speaking when it shows if it is correct or
incorrect, if I know the topic or if I do not know it, because if I just read it with
my eyes, oh, I know this back to front, but when I have to say the same thing,
then it is not that easy. It is the same in Hungarian too, is it not? If you read it,
sure, I know it, but then I realise that there are 2 words that I do not know from it,
no, this is not mm easy
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Teacher Kati

After lesson 1

1 R : so please tell me again about the dictionary in primary 5

2 T : yes, then it is, the task is that we read a text from primary 5, and then it is the
homework to look up the unknown words in the dictionary so I do not write out
everything I mean the key words and the more difficult ones I still write up on
the board
3 R : yeah
4 T : but, if you do not understand then try to find it. It should not be the case that I
always tell you
5 R : sure
6 T : and give you the roasted pigeon ((from the Hungarian saying: S/he just had to
open her/his mouth and the roasted pigeon flew into it. It means without effort
you get it)), but if you get a text and do not understand a word then you can open
it (dictionary) and use it. This is very difficult for them
7 R : yeah, sure
8 T : very difficult for them. And especially as they usually have quite big dictionaries.
But I also have a dictionary from Oxford ((as she is talking she is going to get it))
it is a monolingual dictionary ((trying to find it))
9 R : yeah
10 T : from the Oxford Child Dictionary, I think I have just given it to one of the
children because it is usually here. Then then s/he has taken it as I always give it
when there is a competition, so then we even try the monolingual ones. But not
in primary 4 of course it would not be possible. But at the end of primary 5 or in
primary 6 they can do it. So for the child to know, not only when I am here when
they know what a word means or how to say it
11 R : (xxxx)
12 T : how to say it, yes. So that’s it, to recognise it
13 R : yeah
14 T : and then it is very long slow progress
15 R : yeah
16 T : it takes a year to learn it
17 R : yes, it is very difficult. It is a lot of energy and work you have to put into, even
eight words, like East West South and so on you have to work really hard to
teach
18 T : yes, the book is still too difficult for them
19 R : is that right?
20 T : I think so. We usually start it in primary 5. But you know we just finished the
book you have seen us using before ((for the pilot study five months before this
lesson))
21 R : yes
22 T the book Bravo 3, and it was not worth getting it for 3000 Forints it is we must
not burden the parents again with Bravo 4 so we did a drama and other things
23 R : can you really do something different? Is it not a problem that in the syllabus
there is something different. As I have seen in it that it is only Bravo that is
mentioned, so can you just write in the teacher diary what you are doing?
24 T : no no, I have to change it then ((but she has not, and it is written in English, so
maybe the head would not notice it anyway?)) and I have to write in it that I have
started this book the second chapter mmm we mmm started about two weeks
ago. We have finished earlier, with this group it was easy to finish earlier, but I
must write in
25 R : yes
26 T : so by hand I have written that we had finished the book earlier and we did this
and that and at the end of the school year we change it when we have to write up
the official documentation
27 R : so you write into the teacher’s diary what you actually do not what
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syllabus too. But when there is a two week time at the end of the school year
when we have to come in that’s when we have to tidy up these things. For
example what we give to the head it is more complex with extra bits, what else
you used and so on, this is ((the syllabus she has shown me and I was referring
to)) my own copy just for me to know where I am and what I am doing
29 R : sure. You cannot predict at the beginning of the school year
30 T : no you cannot you know the syllabus is a needed thing but it is a needed
unnecessary thing. You need something because you need to plan something
what you you mmm you do, well last lesson ((the lesson I have seen)) from 1-2
o’clock they are very tired that is the time when we usually watch a video for
example there is a mm a title is York it is about mmm I do not know if I have it
here ((trying to find it while talking)) mmm (3.0) I think Susan took it ((the other
teacher)) sorry
31 R : no problem
32 T : I wanted to play it to you mmm I can ask it back for the next lesson
33 R : okay
34 T : to show it to you, we also have a recording from our English trip and also the
mm little play we have done with this class so you can see it what it was like
35 R : mmm
36 T : for you to see
37 R : I cannot watch it right now but I will come back in October
38 T : will you come again in October?
39 R : I think I would bring a questionnaire if I manage to make one for that time or I
am also planning to talk to the teachers and also mmm talk with the heads or
even with one I should talk to
40 T : well, to go back, about our tests, this is for example the test primary 5 have
written and we corrected it today. ((she is showing me the tests written on papers
and marked)) It is about the future tense, ‘must’ we learnt and also this is very
difficult for them these and mmm these and for example to make sentences they
always have to do this
41 R : and what about the primary 4 students. Do you have the tests ready for them as
you have said that every week they have to write a vocabulary test. Do you make
these up?
42 T : yes, of course, it is me who always makes these. The mmm vocabulary tests and
mm I also have a teacher’s book which gives me ideas this is for example this is
from the teacher’s book, see, what to do,
43 R : yeah
44 T : sometimes I do not do this mm as you can see this is at the back this is for
example Portugal this book is very versatile
45 R : mmmm
46 T : we learnt the (xxxx) Monday with a capital letter then there is always a bit of
reading comprehension we always do those and I could read from other places or
we listen to something
47 R : yeah yeah
48 T : we listen to a very short something then the family, the ’would you like?’ then
what else, the present tense, very difficult for them the ‘do’ and the (xxxx) this is
the tragedy in primary 3 and 4. Well then we talk about the (xxxx) and the
family, who is who, for example ‘Uncle Tom’ is whose who and else mm
49 R : so do you practise these before (the test)
50 T : yes, we practise it of course and then they have to write it. These are the ones
((showing the tests))
51 R : was this for the primary 4 students?
52 T : yes
53 R : could I take it away till tomorrow to photocopy one of them? Just the test
54 T : you can take all of them
55 R : you see when I am abroad these are all missing because if I was here I could just
pop in and ask you but as I am far away
56 T : yes, sure. Look these are the tests and these the the suggestions for the teachers.
How the students improve this is very important to for us mmm these belong to
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57 R : so these were the tests for the intermediate level. What about the elementary
ones?
58 T : we started this one, but will progress more slowly, even the ‘is’ and ‘are’ cause
problems. Look, here you are. I am sorry ((another teacher is coming to the room
wanting something)) (xxxx xxxx) so what I was saying is that we get there that in
primary 7 the students have to be able to put essays together by themselves from
the learnt material, although I do give them words and help. You can see
((showing one example)) I have given a mark for this but what shall I say shall I
I show you a good one and a weak one so so. And this is continuous how well we
know the present perfect (tense) and the present perfect continuous (tense) ((end
of side one so I had to turn the tape)) … I did not get it from the book but I made
it up, whatever we practise so how, and it is a feedback for me to know how well
they know it
59 R : of course
60 T : the verb tenses, you know. And there is always vocabulary check also with it,
whatever we have learnt, why does s/he not know the word for example I do not
know: impossible ‘impossible’ I even said that the ‘Mission Impossible’
61 R : yeah
62 T from the film. Now they are a bit more interested, some know ‘is’ properly and
some ‘who’, this is one part of it, the other is the ones they have to do it by
themselves, for example my favourite film, see ((showing me one essay)) and I
have corrected it, we will check it today, this one is very weak, very weak, I did
not even mark it, because this is not acceptable, mmm, but there are some really
good essays so so, for example my favourite film ((trying to find one good one,
and I can see one computer processed))
63 R : can they even write it on the computer?
64 T : yes, of course. ‘It’s too short’ ((reading the notes on it)) it is not enough, as short
as the rabbit’s tail, not enough.
65 R : how much, is one page not enough?
66 T : well
67 R : yes, I see the first part is not part of the essay ((the student drew something I
think))
68 T : you understand that the other writes that much ((showing another essay much
longer)) and by hand, look, there are some really talented students for example
this one, (name of the student), (another name of a student) has too many
mistakes so I will make her re-write it
69 R : mmm
70 T : to practise it, the favourite, or look at this, what a high level some of them did
reach, so see, this one will not get a mark, they need to write seven hundred
words
71 R : so in primary 7 they have to write seven hundred words essays, so in primary 8
do they have to write a thousand words for the exam or?
72 T : no no, it depends on the difficulty, for example about the nature, what is the
green house effect, like this they have to write less, or know less
73 R : I see
74 T : but I usually think ((end of recording))

After lesson 2:

75 T : ((teacher says good bye to the students, they go out and she collapses in her
chair, this was her sixth lesson in a row, and it is half past 1, she started at 8
am, and had six lessons all fortyfive minutes each.)) That’s it, are you finished
too?
76 R : sure, totally ((laughter))
77 T : no, you know, this time they are no good for anything, practically, in the last
lesson
78 R : I am finished too ((as I have visited three teachers and recorded five lessons
and notes too that morning))
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know, it is a film about schools too, so the vocabulary is related

80 R : mmm
81 T : but as we work on it and I check them and so, no. We usually play Hangman
((the name of a game))
82 R : yes, they were very good
83 T : and also the words, like ‘window’ and then the next says a new word with the
last sound, and it goes in a chain ((one student after another in order)), then
they are a bit quieter. Well, they will have three days of holiday so they are a
bit troubled now, they were a bit
84 R : did not seem to be noisy or badly behaved to me
85 T : during the last lesson we are a bit noisy, but not that much usually
86 R : yes, but they had been sitting for six hours. I had seen five lessons and I am
finished too
87 T : you had enough too. And did you have a free hour ((as there were six lessons
between 8 am and 1.30 pm))
88 R : yes, and I had to run home for a cassette, as I had brought a wrong one for
recording
89 T : I see, what was wrong with it?
90 R : I brought with me one which already had recording on it, so I had to cycle
home to get an empty one
91 T : where do you live, with your parents?
92 R : no, I have a flat (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
93 T : and what happens to it while you are away?...
: ((chat about it))
94 T : we could talk more with the students, for example where there are five lessons
per week we do talk more with the students, even in primary 4 there are weeks
where there is not so much pressure like this week, they had to write a central
Hungarian literature and grammar test ((from the Ministry of Education all
schools get these)) and also English test and everything was during this week
and tomorrow they go for a day trip together so this was a very easy week, you
see. But it is good to talk (during the lessons) and in the lower primary classes
it is important but they do need vocabulary teaching before they can say things,
and they also need my help, you saw I even tried to talk and help but they did
not pay attention very much, but I was helping with the questions and the game
like ‘Twenty Questions’, it is important because of the communication, but we
could talk even more
95 R : yes and (xxxx xxxx)
96 T : yes it is a game, ‘Twenty Questions’, but we cannot play it properly, only with
the older ones, as they (xxxx xxxx) but words like ‘would’ and so on, difficult,
but they are good for them to remember later and also it is probably more
interesting than just reading and translating
97 R : of course
98 T : the other thing is that usually I mm speak more English with them, during this
lesson you did not see it as we had the Channel ((they chatted about the
Channel between England and France)) the Channel tunnel, and all of other
things we talked about, but usually I speak more English with them, even in
primary 4 or 3, in primary 4. maybe in primary 4 in the a group ((the weaker
group)) no, not really, but I still explain everything in English
99 R : so do you say it first in Hungarian or English or?
100 T : yes, either Hungarian first or the other way for them to get used to it mmm so
maybe they will learn something from it mm with the young ones, the better
ones I speak more English than Hungarian, I of course explain the grammar in
Hungarian because we do learn grammar now in primary 4, up till recently we
did not do a lot, but now it is is, are they going, ‘is he, is she’, and we repeat
these things until our nose bleeds
101 R : yeah yeah
102 T : like ‘it is it isn’t he isn’t she isn’t’ but we do not say what the names are of
these forms (xxxx xxxx) like this. In primary 4 we do this a lot, you can see this
now it is the ‘to be’ form and the pronouns too they are always problematic
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103 R : mm
104 T : and the two present tenses, when they are ten years old they would get it, about
the second term or the end of primary 5, that’s why I said it that’s when they
would know ‘does’ and ‘is’, it takes more than a year for Hungarian children to
learn, average
105 R : may I ask something?
106 T : of course
107 R : the followers of the natural approach say that children learn a second language
as they learnt their first language
108 T : yeah, like (xxxx)
109 R : mmm but they do not learn grammar but learn from using the language, they
try to speak in the target language to the child but not teach them grammar.
There are other opinions, the followers of those say that grammar has to be
taught too. What do you think, could these young children learn another
language without learning grammar, or not. I know that they only have 4
lessons per week though
110 T : nine-to-ten year old students learn the language consciously, up till then
unconsciously. You could teach a three year old simultaneously three
languages, I am an example of this, as my mother and father died and my aunt
talked to me in French, I can speak French like mmm so I can speak French and
Hungarian ((also Romanian, as she lived in Romania)) I only started to learn
Romanian when I got to school, and I learnt it consciously
111 R : mm yeah
112 T : so at this age ((nine-to-ten)) it is not possible to learn it unconsciously. But you
could build on that that if the students cannot speak properly but if they go
abroad ((probably to an English speaking country)) and there there they could
could improve and learn to be accurate in their use of language, that is possible.
But to acquire, mm I do not know. Our students in primary 8 do know the
grammar and we also give them a huge vocabulary (xxxx xxxx xxxx) and so
they can use the language, the ones who attended the specialised programme
((five lessons per week compared to three lessons for the non-specialised
groups)). I do not say that all of them know the ‘present perfect tense’
perfectly, not even the specialised groups, but even in primary 7 they can
distinguish the the six or seven verb tenses I am sure about that. two present
tenses, two past tenses, two future tenses, the ‘going to’ and ‘to be to’ and the
present continuous tense as a future tense for example the (xxxx xxxx), and the
present perfect, present perfect continuous and past perfect tense they all know
these in primary 7.
113 R : when you say that they cannot learn another language in a natural way after the
age of ten, is it your personal experience or is it from the research finding you
have read?
114 T : from the research finding, but it seems to be true. It is true. If they are not in a
situation where surrounded by the language, and here (in Hungary) there isn’t,
they cannot learn it
115 R : and if they were in a bilingual (an immersion) programme? I am only asking, I
do not know the answer
116 T : the bilingual (immersion) is a very good idea. I do praise the Ministry of
Education for their immersion programme, it improves the students a lot. At the
age of fourteen these well prepared students who attended our school and our
special training programme, if they go to the other school where they have
twenty English lessons per week for a year, these students will learn the
language for life, you know?
117 R : yes
118 T : because there is a native speaker teacher and two other ones, the student is not
just sitting in warm water ((doing nothing)) and sitting there for four years and
passing their final school leaving exam from the knowledge they had acquired
in our school in primary 8, because either from X or Y ((the other English
language teachers)), mmm Anna is another teacher but she has just started
teaching and so we do not know the results of her classes as none has left
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with mark 5 ((best mark)) those students could almost take the Hungarian
Middle Exam ((equivalent to Cambridge First Certificate exam)), in every
aspect, they speak the language, and also mm also, we do promise that we
prepare students for the secondary school, and that’s how we teach, you saw
they are in small groups, all our students are in small groups, even the ones
who are not in the special programme, we try even with them, that’s where the
results of the lots of learning by heart shows, if they learn it, and they can learn
that, they learn it word by word, and hopefully something is retained from that,
as (xxxx xxxx), but the dialogues are very important there, so that is what I
think, what I think, if they are not surrounded by the language they cannot learn
the language properly, so we have to help them
119 R : yes, I understand, I do not really know what is best, I asked for your opinion
only
120 T : yes, yes, I know this from the literature that age three is, but I also know it from
my experience, I can tell you, even up till now if I am amongst French speakers
for three days I speak French better than English, because I had been brought
up in that, that was what I learnt first alongside the Hungarian, because my aunt
was keen on doing this, she had been in France before the war, she was not a
teacher, but a nun, but at home after my grandma and mum mmm she took their
place, that’s how I have learnt so many languages as as it it was easy for me
when I got to school, you know I had to learn Russian ((Romania was a
communist country like Hungary, where Russian was compulsory))
121 R : me too ((laughter))
122 T : of course, all of us had to. In my opinion in the primary school we have a huge
responsibility, because the language mmm can be learnt up till the age fourteen.
What happens afterwards, in the afternoons ((she has adult language learners,
the local council support a programme where people living in the district can
learn English free of charge)) it is like cutting a tree ((monotonous, hard job)).
It is with lots of effort, except those who have some previous knowledge,
because it is always possible to build on the knowledge, but you know, those
who start in adulthood, the the first language, they have a huge disadvantage,
and they ((the authority)) do not understand that these teachers should be well
paid ((She told me another time that she has to give extra private lessons
outside school hours for extra money)) so here (in the primary) we need really
good teachers, you know, from the age of ten or nine or ten till fourteen it must
be the best teaching to start the students so the language would come natural to
them. We had an interesting experience, two classes from primary 7 were
preparing for a some kind of Hungarian competition, a kind of competition of
how well you know your country, and and they had to had to go with the
Hungarian teacher to the Parliament. Can you imagine, as they arrived there I
do not know what time, and they found out that the guided tour is only in
English language, the Hungarian was at 3.30 pm only. They did not want to
wait so long so they went with the English guide. And these students listened to
this my students were amongst them and the other class, they listened to the
guide in English and at the end they did not understand some things, so they
went to the guide and asked: “What is in the small room?” And the woman
almost fainted: “Are you Hungarian?” And they asked back and the Hungarian
teacher was just wandering amongst them, XY, you can ask them ((end of
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Teacher Marika

Date of lesson 03.03.2006

Class P7
Date of interview 03.03.2006

1 R : you have already met this little machine. So thank you for letting me share the
lesson. It was very interesting
2 T : really? ((laughter))
3 R : really. And so I would like to ask what you were satisfied with? (2.0)
4 T : during the first part of the lesson we have done a revision on London, this er (2.0)
the students were very good at it I think I had managed to teach lots of things about
London (2.0) this er in my opinion was successful, with this I tried er to get to (2.0)
this was the leading to er on one hand er to start to warm them up to get used to
speaking that they are in a language lesson er these warm up exercises are very
important er in a language lesson (2.0) imagine they come out of a Hungarian
speaking environment and they have to start to speak a foreign language
5 R : yeah
6 T : so this does not happen by waving a magic wand, so in the first five minutes we
always er we start with some warming up (2.0) so this is er what I think it was
successful. The aim of this lesson was was (2.0) to know the text as well as we can
and to learn the new words as much as possible (4:0) so this was er I tried to build
my lesson following this. Shall I speak about this?
7 R : anything you would like to talk about, I am listening
8 T : so all the exercises, to teach the word connections
9 R : yeah
10 T : the true or false questions er we started at the beginning you know as we listened to
the text and mm sentence by sentence, consciously, mmm sentence by sentence we
repeated them mm I made them repeat the text because on the one hand it is a very
long text (2.0) on the other hand (2.0) we started yesterday to practise this, that we
had marked where the stress is, what they say differently, so well, I try to make
them practise the pronunciation, the good pronunciation, because my pronunciation
is not really good, as I am not British, so only mm just the cassette I can only trust
the cassette
11 R : yes
12 T : I speak English in a Hungarian way sometimes I use the Hungarian stress, often, so
those who started to learn English when they were adults it is not possible, so you
have to be abroad, you have to live abroad to get rid of this
13 R : so you use the cassette?
14 T : yes, the cassette use I use it and so we marked it sentence by sentence how they
stress it, how they say it, with what kind of intonation, that’s what I try to repeat
with them (3.0) so we tried to work with the words, the text to understand more,
(3.0) and er er I think I went quite well. Although when we we when we added their
points well the points they managed to get well (2.0) nobody well nobody was in
the range of 10% or less mistakes, but well, but this is this will be better I think I we
work on it for another few hours to work with this topic this this er will surely be
better.
15 R : so well well the first step was for the students to hear the text in English and not
from you but
16 T : yes
17 R : not from you but from native speakers
18 T : yes, that’s right. Well they have lots of new lots of unknown words in this text. So
the first was to look the unknown words up in the dictionary.
19 R : yeah
20 T : this is inevitable. (3.0)
21 R : did you do this during this lesson? ((unnecessary question; I knew they did not))
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sentences like ((cough)) like (2.0) to repeat the the sentences back
23 R : yeah
24 T : so this was so unknown this text almost unknown, so they have managed is very
well, well, today the practice went very well
25 R : yeah
26 T : considering that it was the very first time yesterday what they had seen the text
27 R : and and what were the other things you have practised?
28 T : well, there was an exercise when they had to read back read after hearing the text
29 R : yes
30 T : then they translated the text
31 R : (2.0) yesterday? no, today
32 T : today? We did not translate it today, nothing in Hungarian, they did not translate
anything, they just practised they repeated the sentences, and so I tried the names,
the names of the places, er the dates, the numbers to work on these, as here we do
not just need to speak English, but they need to know a story
33 R : yes
34 T : they need to know it, well, the places, what happened, to practise the verbs, well, so,
well, in the English teaching in in my opinion, this this is the most difficult thing, to
teach the verbs, because if this does not happen from a text, it flies away in a
second. So the kid they must connect them to a text to keep it to remember that
verb. For example there was the expression ‘grab, grab their children’ well, we had
learnt this expression in a previous text. It was about a hurricane, and er (2.0) very
much they well they knew it at once that they had learnt it before in another text at
once, as I say it the verbs are always the most difficult ones, I think
35 R : so then well, how do you teach them? What helps? Because I had seen that you put
them up on the blackboard,
36 T : yes, yes
37 R : and they paired them
38 T : yes, they were in different colours, yes, this actually helped them already, that there
were two colours, red and green we had, so this helped to find out which place they
should put it ((the students had to pair expressions)) so they could connect them
39 R : yeah (4.0) and you also said that you look the words up in the dictionaries, that was
before, and then then you had questions about the text
40 T : yes, questions about the text, and what else, mmm describing words, we had an
exercise when I described the words and they had to guess which one it was, (2.0)
this was more difficult, well, because because the text is very long (3.0) it is always
more difficult to understand a longer text than let’s say a mmm a a text with eight-
to-ten sentences. And so (2.0) er (1.0) we will turn this round, so later on it will be
the other way round, I will write the word up, or they take one ((from some others
from written out on pieces of paper)), or we play ‘Activity’ ((show or draw the
word game)) and so there there it will be the other way round, they will have to
(1.0) explain the the word.
41 R : so for for another few lessons you are going to practise this text?
42 T : yes, we are going to
43 R : or even longer?
44 T : well, maybe two or three more lessons, this is for sure
45 R : and so
46 T : well, I think it is worth an effort, in my opinion, there are so many things here, if
you paid attention, there were adjectives, and comparisons, there was past tense in
it, irregular past tenses, (2.0) er then practising numbers, dates, years, to practise,
and they are in primary 7, so, well, there are lots of things here that are (2.0) lot lots
of things this text makes them practise. Maybe when you see it the first time you
would not even notice it, but (3.0) I think there are a lot of
47 R : yes, there were lots of things and they did understand them really well
48 T : yes, yes
49 R : I could see that even that there were unknown words in it, they understood the text
very well
50 T : yes, yes
51 R : and if they do not understand something is there any help for them?
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Well, I get really grumpy if one of them shouts the answer. ((laugher)) before I
managed to explain it, because there are it is possible that somebody may know it
from somewhere, heard it somewhere, so that’s how it usually happens. To tell the
truth I do not make them look up the words alone, maybe this is a mistake, maybe I
should teach them
53 R : why do you think this?
54 T : (2.0) well, I do not know, in secondary schools, maybe (1.0) maybe they will ask
them to do it, to be able to look up words alone, but I think they would manage that.
Maybe one day I will try this. Maybe this spring. But for example, this business to
translate the text word by word I have anxieties about this too. Well, in the
Hungarian language exams then mmm they really force this this translation to
translate English into Hungarian, but the style should be Hungarian style too, and so
how how and well, how unnecessary this is, is it not? Well, the important thing for
the child is to understand
55 R : yes, it is possible that they do not have to translate it to be able to understand it
56 T : yes, they may not need to translate it to understand it, and but this is still a kind of a
question of life or death, in Rigó Street ((the centre in Hungary for the foreign
language exams))
57 R : yeah
58 T : I am not I do not pay attention to this at all. Sometimes I give kind of give
something to translate, ok, work at home, somebody could help them, and I will
give a mark for it, they get good marks for this you see ((laughter)) but no (2.0) no I
do not usually do this (3.0) or here for example it is possible to ask them to put
these in an order according to what they happened, or like so a thousand a thousand
there are lots of different things here to do to complete a sentence with a missing
word, we could make a quiz or here there are lots of opportunities in this text lots
more
59 R : and at the end, the evaluation?
60 T : well, the evaluation at the end they have to be able to tell the text alone by heart that
is this is the end they (1.0) have to memorise it
61 R : and so word by word?
62 T : I like it what I like no no not word by word
63 R : yes all of them?
64 T : yes, sometimes I ask I ask everybody and give them marks I like asking them
verbally and giving them marks (4.0)
65 R : so do you ask questions or do they have to tell
66 T : no no, they have to tell the story (3.0) well it depends on too, because there are
some who are not that talented, those have to learn it word by word, but I think it
always keeps them back a bit, because because they always think they think oh my
god what is the next word so I think it is much better if they try to tell the story in
their words because they speak much more fluently then (6.0)
67 R : so how good are they in this?
68 T : good they are good good
69 R : so they can learn it?
70 T : yes they can, yes, well (2.0) we really struggled in primary 5 with this, because that
was where it all started, you know the daily routines, that is the first one, I get up at
eight and go to bed at ten, and so on they have to tell about all of their day, that’s
how it starts, but there are more and more difficult texts are coming, and I think it is
a not just to get mmm an extra mark, but I can see mm (2.0) I can see lots of
advantages of this, they could feel if they speak fluently, or they can perform
something (2.0) well how I ask them orally for a mark is like this: I ask one of them
to sit next to me and the others are working on something else, so it is not like for
two hours we are doing this while the others are just sitting and looking ((as it is in
most other classes)), but this is how we do it, so for the two hours they should also
do something ((this still means two hours of evaluation after each text))
71 R : so everybody sits there and
72 T : yes, everybody sits there and mmm (3.0) and tells it (5.0)
73 R : and the written tests?
74 T : well, about written tests, they make me do it
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76 T : yes, because ((laughter)) because that’s how they learn the words well ((laughter))
if Damocles’s sword is above their heads then they learn them ((laughter)) the
words, otherwise they do not (3.0)
77 R : I like your lesson, at the beginning how you warmed up, I could see that they have
all learnt those words
78 T : well, that was the same kind of learning, that we have written them down
79 R : yes
80 T : yes, we have written down all of those places, so they all had to learn them by heart
and you could so how well it came back
81 R : yes, they knew it very well
82 T : and it did not show at all that they had to learn it word by word, like a poem ((the
teacher asked questions about London and the famous places in London and the
students went to the map, showed them and talked about them))
83 R : no no
84 T : they really told the meaning of the text
85 R : they answered the questions
86 T : that’s right and they knew the things very well I think
87 R : yes, and so when they get to London they will know all these places
88 T : they will know where to try to find everything, what it is a good time to go and so
on
89 R : one more thing, what I would like to ask is that mmmm you said right after the
lesson that the classroom really bothers you, even mentioned this at the beginning
of the lesson, that it is a small room, could you say more about this?
90 T : yes, there is no space to move, one student stands up and comes to the board and the
other student is on the way, I really do not like this, I do not like to be in a narrow
place anyway,
91 R : so you had to change the lesson as you got into this small room, as I know you had
wanted to do a project with them today?
92 T : yes, yes, for example to act out a situation it is not not really possible here,
unfortunately I am more than once in this classroom with this class (1.0) so I do not
I do not really like this
93 R : is it organised who comes to the small room when?
94 T : yes and unfortunately in our school there are fewer classrooms than there are
classes, we are lucky that we have a swimming pool so we can organise this a bit
95 R : you have lessons in the swimming pool too ((laughter))
96 T : yes, not English lesson, but swimming and so that is an extra room well, they have
swimming lessons up till primary 6, so that is it so we could have a classroom each
97 R : yes, and I was rather surprised that even in this very small classroom you asked
them to get up and move around
98 T : I like moving them around a bit ((she is also a gym teacher))
99 R : yeah (3.0) and what kind of abilities are these students do you think?
100 T : there are some weak ones amongst them (3.0) if you think about marks, there is
only one who has mark 5 ((best mark)), one little girl who has it, only one has mark
5 amongst them, the others are mark 4 or 3.
101 R : yeah
102 T : so in my opinion they are average students, there is nobody amongst them who is
really good, so I think they speak quite well, considering everything and we are
doing well
103 R : yes, I think so too. Is there anything else you were also happy with? Or it happened
well?
104 T : well, usually this is how we do it, but (2.0) right not it is a bit difficult with them, as
they are becoming teenagers, so there is so much time, unnecessary, to talk to the
others, to make a remark, chat the chatting is taking a lot of time, attention, to stop
them, lots of time goes away with this so well, it is a bit difficult to teach them just
now, but they were ok during this lesson, there was nothing special, so well, (1.0)
then (2.0) what well what I what I can tell you, I a child has a task to do, s/he has
something in front of her/him to do, then there is little time to misbehave
105 R : yes, I just wanted to ask if you have any techniques. ((laughter))
106 T : yes, if I give them plenty tasks they will not misbehave a lot, so that’s why I have to
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107 R : what kind of tasks?

108 T : they like oral tasks, although they are a bit too relaxed then (3.0) but for example in
this classroom we had a task, well, that was chaotic, they worked in four groups and
they had to plan a crime story, just imagine, with a plan, with a plan for a flat, who
was where, what did they do, who stole what, where did they go in, and so on, there
is a story like this in the course book, so they had to make up another one. Well,
there was noise there! ((laughter)) but they made up very good stories…
109 R : so they were in four groups and then
110 T : maybe just three actually, yes, three groups, and
111 R : so they had to tell at the end?
112 T : that’s right, they had to tell, they put the things up on the board, explained what the
story was and then what happened, yes
113 R : one student, or more?
114 T : there were three in a group and then well one said it, yes, one said it, but this was in
this small room too, yes.
115 R : yes, it must be difficult if there is not enough room or not big enough,
116 T : the problem is when there are topics they do not really like
117 R : for example?
118 T : the ones they think are boring, well this topic, to give directions, that’s what we just
learnt, and London, to give directions, about the great fire in London, they liked
these, but there are a few others, for example, really forced topics, school rules are
coming, ‘must, mustn’t’ well, that will not be a great topic, this does not move them
lots
119 R : so what can you do?
120 T : I will make them learn it somehow, I make pictures, traffic signs, and others to try
to make it a bit playful, when giving directions we have huge maps, I drew them,
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Teacher Piroska

Date of lesson 03.03.2006

Class P4
Date of interview 03.03.2006

1 R : so thank you for letting me be part of your lesson. What was it that you were satisfied
with?
2 T : well (2.0)
3 R : I put this here as it is very noisy here
4 T : good. Well first of all, what I had planned to do for this lesson I did manage to do. Well,
so the timing was very good, as we just finished the last exercise when mm and then
there was a bit of a summary too, so it was just right, this was successful. In my opinion,
also the children also worked well too. (4.0)
5 R : are there any other things you liked about the lesson?
6 T : about my own lesson what I liked, ((laugher)) well, let’s see
7 R : what was successful?
8 T : (4.0) mmm (6.0)
9 R : I know you were a bit anxious for me to come and see them, as you mentioned some
behaviour problems?
10 T : yes, the lesson started with this at the very beginning, I had to put them into their right
place ((to calm them down)) but this happens every day in this class, I have to start
every lesson with telling them to calm down and not to shout with each other. This gives
me a basic attitude they kind of upset me a bit and so I always start the lesson in this
anxious state, and as we get on with the lesson then I calm down and they just
concentrate on the English and me too, and that is when we kind of warm into it. But the
beginning is always somehow this chaotic.
11 R : with this class this class only?
12 T : yes, with this one, usually with this one mmm they are the weakest from the year 7
students, well, I have the weakest group, and also it also depends on what was the
previous lesson. If they come from physical education, god forbid, or from an art class,
where the chaos is complete, then it is almost impossible to calm them down.
13 R : yeah
14 T : yes. If they come from a calm lesson, from a strict teacher, then they are ok. This is
interesting, I have noticed this. Well then (2.0)
15 R : so how did you manage to calm them down? Because they did calm down quite quickly,
so what did you do to calm them down?
16 T : well, if I raise my voice they usually it is usually enough, then they kind of step back,
and if I start working with them if I start pushing them to do things from then on they do
not have time to misbehave (2.0) so it is the work
17 R : yeah, and what kind of work?
18 T : well
19 R : written, oral, or it does not matter?
20 T : it does not matter what kind, just we need to start working, together, nicely, that is, and
then we we started to check the homework, it was a bit jerky, even that nothing else was
needed just to put the things in order, what kind of sentences follow each other, and the
other task, what was it? (2.0) the in the homework? (xxxx) ‘expressions’ well they had
to select what kind of expressions they would use in the dialogue below, this is what we
were doing during the previous lesson, I do not know it was like, my opinion is that no,
they just quickly do the homework, they open it, give it only one minute and that is this,
the end, and they are not interested if they could not do it, or they did not understand it
or they did not know it, well, that was the English homework, tick, it is ready
21 R : the important thing is that is is ready
22 T : that’s right, that they have it, the quality does not matter, just the quantity, that it is done
(2.0) so that was jerky, so you could see that they did not really
23 R : yeah
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not written anything here, mine is not correct, well, when it is like this I can’t do
anything else, read it then you have to correct it, that’s it. That was the homework you
should have been thinking about it at home, my little son, for this for this I cannot I
cannot give more time for this really (2.0) except if I see that the whole group if the
whole group if they could not do it, they do not really understand it, well then we have
to pay attention to it, to do that bit again
25 R : if there are there are a few children who do not understand then then
26 T : yes, yes,
27 R : the better ones?
28 T : yes, if even they do not understand then it means that really, but like this I do not I do
not remember that it has ever happened. Well, next we mm we said we summarised the
Present Continuous Tense, because that is what I had been teaching in the previous
lessons, the Present Continuous Tense, they did know it really well at the beginning,
well, in theory it works really well, they can put it together, but we have to use it, this
this we will have to practise a lot. Right now that is where we are, how do we make it
(the Present Continuous Tense) and when do we use it and now comes the lots and lots
of practice (4.0) and then the listening to the tape, I like this I like working this way,
dealing with the texts, if there is a longer text then I cut it up into different parts so it
will not be a whole big bite, but parts, and then I will do something with each part. For
example to complete it, because it is an exciting task to listen to the tape only and they
can see the text but things are missing
29 R : yeah
30 T : then I also do ‘true or false’, we did that today too, we always have to go through it
before ((the bell signals the next lesson)) what the the statements are, so everybody
would know what they are. And then before too, they listen to it, and then afterwards
they look through it too and see true or false, I sometimes do things for example after
listening, to listen to the pronunciation, ‘here’ or ‘there’? so which word can you hear
31 R : yeah, yeah
32 T : they like this very much! And so they just have to tick it. Mmm I usually do things like
mmm answer the questions, well, these are usually in year eight only, because there they
have to understand the meaning the information from it and then I can ask a few short
questions, but not too many, just a few. What also do I usually do with a new text? I
make a table and ask them: children, this is the topic, have a guess, what kind of words
will you hear? So then they give the words and then let us see how many points have
you got? Like the Bingo game. And so what they heard they have to tick
33 R : so you are trying to do things in a playful kind of way?
34 T : yes yes, because, you know, well there is a text and really to start and listen to it from
the tape and afterwards maybe translate it sentence by sentence, the old method, that for
me for me it is not okay. It is boring for me so for the child it is boring a thousand times
more I think (2.0) and then (3.0) that is how I do these texts. To tell you this needs a lot
of preparation for me, written one for me and then photocopy it so this is not well I do
not go into a lesson that well, because because you know the old method with the old
method how it happened, open your book, let us listen to that thing or not even listen to
it but the teacher read it out loud in the Russian lesson, and then let us translate it
sentence by sentence. That’s it. That was it. Well it is possible to come to a lesson with a
closed book, that is it, to the lesson, but here I have to plan that I would like to do this
and that, this is hard job, but at the same time it is such an enjoyment (2.0) because I can
see that they are too, and there is motivation there too, because if this exercise is correct
then I will get a plus point for it, if this is not correct the other part may still be correct
and then a plus point
35 R : yes, I did see it that they were very keen on correcting the tasks
36 T : that is what I thought (2.0) the great value of this lesson was that the child here is not
there is no negative here. Here they only get positive things ((this is the only teacher
whose students in the interview only choose happy faces to describe how they feel
during the English lessons)) with the things, well, what is wrong it is not emphasised but
only the good, well do you understand what I want to say?
37 R : yes I do
38 T : well, there are lots of lots of opportunities to get a plus mark, so only the good things are
in the lime light. There are no marks here ((but the pluses lead to marks)) if it is
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So there is not a problem, there is no no no consequence from it if they do not know it

39 R : is it when you first work with the text?
40 T : yes, yes
41 R : (xxxx)
42 T : yes, it is important for this that they do not know the text, they close their books, and
even the title I try to keep as a secret, to make them guess it, with a word game,
Hangman
43 R : I remember last year when you were teaching the year four students the Chocolate story
that is how you did it
44 T : yes the same was
45 R : there was a ‘Hangman’ there too
46 T : yes that is right yes yes. So they have to find out. Even this is a bit of an excitement I
think, because if I say children, today’s lesson is about the tornadoes, that sentence just
flies away. Some of them would hear it, some would not. This way how I do it, if I write
it up, or even more if I draw it, that surely all of them would get the idea, what that text
would be about (3.0) well, this is to get their attention, to make them pay attention,
because it is difficult, for example when we are sitting at a meeting, you know how it is,
the attention wanders, we think of something else, it is difficult to pay attention, I do
believe that in the fourth or fifth lesson, or sixth lesson, it is tiring for them, difficult for
them. That is why I am trying to get their attention somehow. Well, there are there are
some lessons, that are really boring, when we have to practise it. For example the
present continuous tense, how I will make them practise it, I will bring exercises and so
let us do it, exercise one, first sentence, here you are, read it, do it and explain why.
Second exercise, well there are a bit boring lessons but that is needed too
47 R : is it for practising grammar?
48 T : yes, that is correct, for grammar
49 R : and are you making these exercises up?
50 T : no, there are different we have different exercise books, and books, the ‘Murphy English
Grammar’ from this one we get very good ones, and also there are so many books there,
I always chose (4.0) that is it is
51 R : well, it is very interesting, I am learning a lot ((true!)) well, can we can we talk a little
more about the lesson? The lesson just now. Were there any other good or interesting
bits you would like to tell me about?
52 T : what I thought was, well, that there would be more students who could manage these
exercises and I could give out more pluses (( they got a plus for each of the exercises if
it was correct)), well, that more students would be more successful with this exercise
((the bell is ringing)) when you are going to listen to this ((laughter))
53 R : in Scotland, yes ((laughter)) Is it ringing in? Just to know
54 T : yes. The ringing out is a long one. The warning one is short
55 R : ok, so you thought that
56 T : yes, that there would be more, well, the ones I was expecting those did manage it,
surely. But I did not think that it would be that difficult something like this: complete
the text, well, have a look ((showing the exercise)) see, one two three four five six, six
words, they only need write in six words. That was this difficult?
57 R : and why why do you think it was? Could they not spell it or did they not know the word
or what?
58 T : spelling yes, well, it was an unknown text. That is where it all started. The tape was a bit
fast, it was not my voice they had to listen to, so, it was a different voice, well, (2.0) we
had not read it before, this one, so the meaning itself also, the ones who did not know it
they just had no idea about what it was. Well, I do not know. (3.0) I on purpose put this
as a first exercise because here they could see the text. There were just some parts
missing from the text, so they were not left alone completely, that well, listen to it and
decide. As this was in the second part, there they really had to decide after hearing it
only, if it was true or false, they had to understand it there. Here they did not even need
to understand it just the word, to understand the word. This is how I usually start,
because it is a help for them, with translating it I did start them that it would be about
this, and then let us see the second part. I am trying to make build them up the exercises
59 R : yeah yeah
60 T : I do not know what could be the reason for it, did the tape-recorder get quieter? You
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61 R : I did hear it well, it was ok

62 T : was it audible?
63 R : yeah
64 T : (4.0) well, this is a weak group, that’s it, I cannot explain it with anything else then.
What I beat I beat into them I drill into then they learn it but nothing more, that’s it.
Their little brains stop here, well, there is a level they cannot reach
65 R : yeah, if it does not work
66 T : that’s right
67 R : when you are dealing with a new text do you always go through the words and
expressions first and then deal with the text?
68 T : yes, yes
69 R : and is there some assessment later on?
70 T : with the new texts if I am not working with it like this, we definitely write out the new
words, and even that one, how I do it, not just kind of in an automatic way, English and
Hungarian, English Hungarian, but either I draw it on the board and then I ask them to
connect them, what do you think, have you heard this word before?
71 R : but during this lesson you did not write out the new words
72 T : not today
73 R : why was that?
74 T : well (3.0)
75 R : I am just asking because I am very interested in today’s lesson you know
76 T : well, this is a good question, why was this? Well, I wanted this in a complex way, I did
not want to go into details, first words, because because if I had done that then I would
have cut up the whole text into bits, and they would have known, or they could have
guessed what would happen. I did not want them to know what would happen, as we
were working on it I wanted them to learn about the story, what happens. Even if there
were a few words that they did not know
77 R : to keep them interested till the end?
78 T : yes yes,
79 R : because if you write them out
80 T : yes, that would have been, when I write out the words, then it is so kind of final, it is
final. I have given the new words, there are not any new words, then they just have to
put them together. That is not an easy task either, I sometimes do it like that too, of
course, I sometimes do it too, either drawing the word or explaining it in English or
mime it, the ways I have learnt in the methodology you know, and if it does not work, at
the end of course … but there are always a few children at least who work out what I am
talking about, or what this teacher is miming. But if they cannot work it out at all, at the
end I would tell them in Hungarian, so then we are not wasting any more time there.
Then we listen to in from the tape, I stop it sentence by sentence, they translate it, and
when they work out the whole story, then they read it, then they read it according to the
characters, I sometimes do things for example, it was such a good lesson when we learnt
about the ‘vampire bat’ with the year six students. There was a bit of a text about it, it
was about the bat sleeping in its cave at night, well during the day it sleeps in its cave, at
night it wakes up, it is hungry and it goes away and it is not eating, it drinks, it drinks
blood! It tries to find an animal and flies onto its leg and cuts a hole and drinks the blood
and flies back to its cave for the day. What I did I did I did ask somebody to read it
nicely and so a child read it aloud and I asked another one to come out in front of the
class and so what you have to do is pretend that we cannot hear and so mime it, and the
child mimed it beautifully, whatever s/he heard in English well the bit like like ‘the bat
wakes up in its dark cave’ and so s/he did like this ((showing it)) that s/he was asleep
and then opened his/her eyes and so they mimed it beautifully
81 R : yeah
82 T : ‘flies, leaves the cave’ ((laugher)) and what else was I do not know right now and he is
trying to find that is how they showed it, it was really great and you know they hear the
text but not from me, not from the tape but from each other and they see what the other
is miming so probably they do understand it too, and at the same time we laugh because
it is funny
83 R : ((laughter)) yes
84 T : it was really good, very good
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86 T : yes, millions
87 R : but you said that how you did it this time, well, you were not really happy about it, that
they did not know it. How did you feel about this?
88 T : well, at the same time it did not keep me back, what I really wanted is to be able to give
pluses to as many people as possible, because the fact that they did not really know it, I
feel that they were not bothered about it
89 R : yeah
90 T : because they were working happily, that is how I saw it, they were waiting for the next
exercise it was exciting for them all of this lesson, so here they did not mind if they got a
plus or did not, well, when the amount was not enough ((for a plus)) then they were bit
disappointed but well this does not for me this is not, I did not feel as it was kind of
negative
91 R : yeah yeah
92 T : it would have been better if more of them were successful, but it was good like this too
93 R : for them if they get a plus they are happier then? Does it count towards the mark 5?
((written into the register))
94 T : yes, yes, well that I was clever, during this lesson I got that many pluses, well, this is a
kind of motivation, it would have been, but yes yes, but it was okay how it was because
at the end all of them got one or two, there was nobody who has not got any, well, there
was not, I do not know, we have written it at the end ((into a separate notebook the
teacher keeps))
95 R : the the exercises, every exercise has got one?
96 T : yes, if it was correct then it was one plus, so they could get 4 because there were four
there were four exercises
97 R : how many pluses is a mark 5?
98 T : ten, ten
99 R : so then it (the plus) has a value, because
100 T : of course, they have to collect them, lots of them. But they take it very seriously, very
much, they keep track of them, it is important for them
101 R : and where, do you write them or they write them? ((the pluses, not the marks))
102 T : I do ((laughter)) they, I do not trust them to do it ((laugher)) I write it ((laugher)) this
one I do, ((laugher)) this one I do, so every name has the pluses next to them, I put little
dots next to them
103 R : at the end of the lessons
104 T : yes, yes
105 R : are there any minuses?
106 T : yes, we do use minuses, three of them is a mark one ((worst mark, meaning failed))
107 R : ((laughter)) why why three minuses is a mark one but ten a mark five?
108 T : ((laughter)) what do you think? Well?
109 R : I am just asking ((laugher))
110 T : ((laughter)) well, not to do, well, if they do not have their homework prepared or they do
not have the things they need for the lesson ((book, exercise book, workbook,
vocabulary)) if they do not work or do not do them completely, well, it should be not
allowed for them not to do it ten times! Once is kind of okay, good, everybody has bad
days, or they do not, twice, well that one is well, but the third time if it is not ready or
they did not bring it, that means they do not care, that’s it, that should show in a mark
too
111 R : I’ve got the idea ((laugher))
112 T : ((laugher))
113 R : is there anything else, about today’s lesson? Or something you want to tell me
114 T : well, not really
115 R : there was an interesting incident, or rather two, I noticed them, there was a boy sitting
there who was exempted ((would not get any marks))
116 T : he is exempted from the language, he is in the lessons, he is there but he does not work
117 R : yeah
118 T : a psychologist checked him and because of this he is exempted. He has to sit here
because he cannot be alone in the corridor, he sits here but he does not work and will not
get marks, in the student’s mark book
119 R : he was sitting there nicely and quietly ((I actually thought it was rather silly!))
120 T : yes, yes, there is no problem here, he kind of tried it out some time ago, but I told him:

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Tony, be happy to be here and you sit here quietly

121 R : could he do something, for example read a book?
122 T : yes, I told him, bring anything, whatever you do, do your homework, just sit there nicely
123 R : yeah yeah
124 T : well, he is like this, weak he is weak his nerves poor boy and he is a weak student too so
the language well it is mmm let us forget it
125 R : the other thing is there was a boy here who
126 T : Stuart
127 R : we was making problems with the others
128 T : Stuart, he is an interesting an interesting boy mmm (3.0) so much mm it is so irritating
mm his personality how he relates to the teacher not just with me so he should go to a
psychologist too or to the Centre for Advice on Behaviour ((there is one in every
district)) because he has behaviour problems, the teacher who is responsible for the class
could tell you more, but what what I have heard is that the parents what is true what
counts most is what Stuart says. So Stuart is not at fault in anything, and this comes out,
he says Me? Me? When he does like this: Me? Me? I have not done anything ((imitating
him)) so you know at the beginning we had a quarrel like: but my Stuart, you have just
said it. And then Oh no, I did not, no. and if he did say it even then he could blame
somebody else, like Not just me but they said it too. You know as we tried to deal with
this I had enough and it also a lot of time from the lesson. Now I only say: Stuart, I am
not interested. Shut up. Bring your student’s mark book.
129 R : yeah
130 T : and if I have the student’s mark book ((with the possibility of writing a warning into it))
then it is interesting that he is quiet well he is grumpy but quiet during the lesson
131 R : yeah, because if he does not behave then there is a written warning coming?
132 T : that’s right, he gets one from me, he has other warnings, from me and from other
teachers too, his student’s mark book is full of them. But it is every lesson, and it comes
from his personality that that he always causes problems, never obeys, and you could
see not just with me but with his classmates too
133 R : yes
134 T : with Kelly, he did not, yes, of course ((imitating the boy)) why? ((I asked)) could she
have not done it too? Only you are the one who can do it? (2.0) I do not know what he
would think if one day well, he would be so so hurt, just imagine if one day he would
put up his hand alone ((signalling that he had the correct answer)) and then I would say:
Of course ((imitating him again)) this child would be deeply hurt. But this is what he
does, he cannot see what he does, he cannot see himself from the other’s point of view.
Sometimes even the children laugh, when I do this ((maybe making a face?)) they they
laugh too, saying Stuart… shut up, can you not see how silly you are? Not just the
teacher sees it but we can see it too and we can hear it too, and you are still at it, denying
it? So he is a very difficult mmm
135 R : yes, I understand, there are students like this. (3.0) We have also mentioned the red
points, black points, the student’s mark book, and these. Well, in your opinion how
much this influence how much does this motivate these students not to get a written
warning or a written praise or not to get a bad mark
136 T : very much so. In my opinion very much, very much
137 R : so in this lesson how much were they working for a good mark and how interested they
were or just mmm because they were anxious or?
138 T : yes, yes, it is one hundred percent that he (Stuart) was quiet because his student’s mark
book was out, I know this, that is why I had asked it out to keep him quiet
139 R : I see ((laughter))
140 T : well, how much they worked for the points, mm yes, this motivates them very much or
these children are very much centred around the points, around the marks and plusses.
Here it does not matter at all that they know it or they learn it, only that they get mark 5
or 4 for it or mmm so unfortunately that is the case, not the knowledge but the result,
what is what is written in the student’s mark book
141 R : I think at home that is what shows
142 T : of course of course
143 R : so it is understandable
144 T : yes, at home their mother would ask: what mark did you get? Not how well do you
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well they know it, only (5.0) well I find it difficult to explain, it is so central, this is the
central question, what mark they should get. You should see what a big fight there is at
the tests, for example there are borders with the marks (e.g. from 44-50 it is mark 5)
then they ask: “Can I not get an extra mark for this?” they are searching for more points
to get the better mark. They are not interested in about the grammar that they could not
do the grammar part of the test, or they had a lot of mistakes, and the test would not be
better even if there was one more point added to it, what I mean the mistakes are still in
the test, okay, they would get a better mark, but the mmm really it is very much like
hunting for points, hunting for marks, (3.0)
145 R : yeah. I was interested, well, it was nice to see, but I did not find that they were cheating.
146 T : yeah
147 R : what I mean, as I was sitting at the back with them, they took out the red pencil at once,
they were not into changing it with the black or anything like this
148 T : yes, yes, in my classes, almost at the very beginning it is it is that they have to correct
their own work. Always the same: Take the red pencil or the green and correct it
yourself. At the beginning it is always, I always ask: be honest, you see here I do not
have to say it (after four years) it is natural, or should be. There are still students who are
trying to cheat though.
149 R : so what happens then?
150 T : well, somehow I well you know somehow those you know like like (2.0) when they are
correcting the they put it down and well, you can see that they are nervous and so they
try it they try to do it with the black ((showing the method))
151 R : ((smiling))
152 T : when you are not looking they try to write in the correct answer so they would have it
correct. And so what I usually do is, it is correct, they put up their hands, okay, you get a
plus or a point, that is better, okay, without mistake, okay, okay, then I would like to
have the exercise books here. That is when some of them say oh oh, and they put down
their hands and say sorry, I did not see this, and they would not bring out the exercise
book, as they can see that there is a mistake there, if I do look do not look at it they can
easily say no mistake, this does happen
153 R : yeah
154 T : what I can learn from this that I should always check the work they check themselves,
but sometimes it is well it is too much
155 R : not a lot of them said that they had no mistakes or that it was correct
156 T : yes
157 R : so I did not think they were cheating, they put down the pencil they were writing at once
158 T : yes, I think they get used to this method over the years, be honest, correct it. What I
described happened with the year five class, that oh, well it is not correct, there is a
mistake in it. I said: it is interesting, when I asked who has no mistake, you put up your
hand, when you have to bring it out to show than it is not correct. Well, a few times to
tell them off, to say something, you know, and hopefully they will not do it again
159 R : and do you also give marks for oral performance, during this lesson you did not though?
Do you give points or marks for it if there is?
160 T : yes, yes, you mean when how they work during the lesson?
161 R : yeah
162 T : I usually give points, yes, how they work, that is right. But during the lesson like today,
when they get points for parts of the lesson, then my feeling is that the ones who worked
well get the points. Separately, extra points, well, today it was written work, who
worked well did get what they deserved.
163 R : yeah
164 T : orally, well, for example the one who could tell the rule correctly, yes, I could have
given a point, to say that’s right, well done. I sometimes forget it too, but
165 R : I did not mean I did not ask because
166 T : at the end of the lesson at the end of it, yes, I sometimes look through the names in the
register and remember back who did what who put their hands up a lot or said clever
things and then I give plus points.
167 R : were you happy with their involvement today?
168 T : yes, yes, they did work kind of well
169 R : so at the beginning of the interview you mentioned that they started a bit with a bit of a
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well?
170 T : I do not know. (2.0) as we started to work, then everything worked, as it should be. If
they are really tired or passive. The truth is that when it happens, the sixth lesson that is
when we have a double lesson with them, on Wednesday, fifth and sixth lessons. The
children are finished. The fifth lesson is kind of okay, but the sixth, you know, they are
finished. Especially that it is in the middle of the week, sixth lesson, double lesson, they
are totally finished. And when I see how much they cannot do it, or or they are really
finished, then I say: Okay children then then let us finish it this this is the amount we
worked today, that is, and for the following lesson (the sixth) I bring in a game and we
play.
171 R : of course
172 T : we either play in groups, we have a game called Smart cards, or board game, they love
it, word games, or anything like this we play. We played, you know and they loved it, a
silly thing like they had to stand in a queue and we wrote on their backs, absolute baby
game, but they loved it, they can be a bit free, can be a baby a bit, or I do not know why
173 R : ((smiling))
174 T : you know, they had to write letters on each others’ backs and the first on the queue has
to run to the board and write a word with the letter starting with the letter. They loved it!
Wow, so much,
175 R : good game
176 T : it seems then do need these things
177 R : of course, of course
178 T : they do need games very much.
179 R : I have another question in mind, about language learning
180 T : yes
181 R : you asked them in English, asked them in English to tell the English grammar rules and
they said it in Hungarian at once. Well, how what did you mm what did you think about
it?
182 T : nothing because this is how we do this. I teach them like this. I ask them in English, so
they have to understand what I ask, but they can answer in Hungarian. I think it is
unnecessary for them to tell the grammar in English. The point is not to
183 R : you ask them in English for them to be able to understand it at least? For them to
understand the question?
184 T : yes, yes, and also so language of the lesson, language to be more or less in English. Yes,
this is how we do it, in Hungarian. The grammar they can say it in Hungarian. I cannot
see do not see a lot of point for a child to tell a grammar rule in English or a
grammatical structure.
185 R : it would be too difficult
186 T : yes, and also this way they may remember it better, in Hungarian, subject, at least they
know what it is. But if I say ‘subject’ (in English), that it is a new word at once
187 R : of course
188 T : what does ‘subject’ mean? Subject. Then we have to translate it, ‘subject’ subject, what
is a subject? The one who does the action in the sentence, so that this is a few steps
already. I think they can do the rules in Hungarian, no problem
189 R : yes, of course, I was not surprised that they used
190 T : they spoke Hungarian
191 R : yes, they spoke Hungarian, I was just surprised that you asked it in English and they
answered in Hungarian. Do you understand what I am saying,
192 T : yeah ((not sure)) so they were expected to
193 R : no no, not expected, as you you know how much they know, but I was surprised that
you asked them in English not that they answered in Hungarian. That you started stared
to do grammar in English. Understand?
194 T : yes ((still not understanding))
195 R : that is it
196 T : yes, I think it is mmm
197 R : what I mean, if somebody asks in English then they know to answer in Hungarian. So
the question is why did you ask in English not why they answered in Hungarian.
198 T : they got used to this, they are used to this, I ask something and mmm
199 R : and so how do they know when they are allowed to answer in Hungarian and when not?
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201 R : I see ((not really, but pretending))

202 T : all the rest if I ask anything it is in English, that is how I expect it, always
203 R : and how do they know what is a grammar question? Maybe this sounds silly but
204 T : when we repeat it, we kind of, it is about verb tenses, when we learn them then then the
children speak Hungarian
205 R : they did not even think which language to use
206 T : no
207 R : he said it at once like this
208 T : because I did not even teach them this in English
209 R : yeah, sure
210 T : because it needs an extra vocabulary ‘subject, verb’,
211 R : yes, yes
212 T : they did not even know the word for the question, he said ‘wh’
213 R : yes
214 T : that is why I ask is it ‘wh’? what is a ‘wh question’? that is the questioning word, they
knew it in Hungarian then, well, the grammar is always in Hungarian. And I am happy if
they understand it even like this, if they get it
215 R : sure, sure, just for an outsider it is a bit strange, an exchange that one only speaks
English and the other only Hungarian. And they know that it is correct. That was what I
wanted to know, from where do they know that it is correct this way, and later on only
just English (6.0) only the grammar, I understand it now, good
216 T : mmm this would be interesting to ask from the children, that when the teacher asked you
in English, why did you answer in Hungarian? Or how did you know this?
217 R : exactly. This is it
218 T : I see now, it would be good to ask them, from where do they know, that when I ask
something I expect them to answer in English, this is good a very good
219 R : yes, we could ask them
220 T : we should
221 R : I am really interested in this
222 T : ok, Krisztina, let us ask them. Surely they would tell us, they can tell these things really
cleverly, and simply, everything is so simple for them, what we make really complicated
they would just tell us, let us ask them
223 R : if you ask them, do not ask how they know when it is grammar, but that you sometimes
answered in Hungarian, sometimes in English when the teacher asked you in English.
How do you know when it is okay to speak Hungarian. And let us see if they say when
we talk about grammar, or if the teacher asks this way, or what will they answer? It
would be interesting, do you think?
224 T : very much, very much, I never for me it is so natural, and you noticed
225 R : yes, somebody from outside, from another school comes here, they may not know that it
is allowed to use Hungarian right now. So there is something in the classroom and so
here mmm they did not even say: can I say it in Hungarian?
226 T : I will ask them ((teacher taking notes to ask the year seven students the following day))
for me the natural answer will be, when it is about grammar, that is when we can use
Hungarian
227 R : surely that would be the answer then, as you are you taught them
228 T : yeah
229 R : that’s all, if you have anything else about the lesson?
230 T : not really
231 R : okay, thank you for the interview
232 T : you’re welcome

SWITCHING OFF THE TAPERECORDER, THEN SHE STARTS SPEAKING

AGAIN, SO AFTER A FEW MINUTES SWITCHING IT BACK AGAIN

233 R : so what you were saying is that about the Hungarian speech
234 T : yes, since we started to learn this grammatical structure, every during every lesson, at
the beginning of the lesson this summary is said and almost the exact way
235 R : almost word by word?
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and when we use it. So this is how I ask the questions, every lesson they get the same
ones, and every lesson they answer in Hungarian, so this is a this a stage play we play.
But this is good for those who did not understand it yet to hear it again and again, and
then they may remember it, you see
237 R : sure
238 T : because if I explain it once I explain it, not all of them will understand it, they may be
thinking about something else, but like this, if during another lesson I ask and their
classmate says it and they even correct it, it is not like this but that, that there are two
actions at the same time, you remember we had somebody saying it today
239 R : yeah
240 T : they correct each other, and they probably learn from that too, and then I ask during the
next lesson again, well, what is it, again and again I bring it up and again and again we
play it out this whole stage play.
241 R : you see, I could not have known this, so I am happy that I asked, because I I just see one
lesson, then it is surprising for me how they knew it
242 T : lots of times, with every verb tense we do the same, I do it like this, and we repeat it
nicely
243 R : so how long do you work with one verb tense?
244 T : I cannot really tell you, it depends on how many chapters in the book,
245 R : and so every lesson when you are learning that
246 T : yes yes, also how many extra exercises I find and photocopy for them to practise, it
depends a lot really,
247 R : it’s a lot of work
248 T : oh yes, it is it is. And also what you said before, that can they interrupt or not ((we did
talk about some research before)) do you remember? I do not like asking questions like
this, do you remember: I am sure you have learnt this during Geography lessons, and so
all of them started to say, say, but I did not tell a name or what they learnt, but if I ask a
question like this, What did you learn? Not a concrete question to a concrete person, the
information comes at once, and all of them wanted to speak at the same time. The
tornado, hot and cold air and all together. I said no no, stop, and you see I have to
discipline them because one question like this is enough, you made me think though,
that it depends on how I ask the question, that’s what starts it. So the questioning the
question is wrong, the intonation is such that they think they can say it now, to answer
all of them together, you saw, I had to stop them, to say, no. Only one person. It happens
often.
249 R : well, it was a different topic
250 T : yes, different
251 R : yes, maybe that was freer, it was not about English but another lesson, What did you
learn during Geography? They wanted to say
252 T : yes, all of them wanted to say it
253 R : I think it was good that they were so keen
254 T : yes, yes it was, it often happens during my lessons, that I kind of go off the topic, wow,
into a false line, they know it so well, they at once start to participate, and you know
they go on and on, their own experience, and all the information, about everything, and
they love talking about something else, I can hardly turn them back to the turn them
back. If I am a bit less strict, they do it, for example, year eight we learnt about the
dreams, there is a text about it the dream and the world, and the dream-world, that
researchers what they think, if it is connected to our experiences mmm can we predict
the future, like this. We read the text, and there were thousands of questions for example
I have dreamt this, can you imagine I have felt like this, in my dream I did this. They are
so keen, and if they can speak Hungarian, if they do not have to speak English,
Hungarian they are more secure, they can speak about anything
255 R : and in English?
256 T : no, no, no, it is more difficult, it is difficult for them to express themselves, their
thoughts, and they find it difficult to say what they want to say,
257 R : were you the one who wrote that the school would need a native English language
teacher (in the questionnaire)
258 T : yes, it would be so good for the communication; it would be so good to have a native
speaker, wow
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260 T : not really no

261 R : maybe the schools could share one, one day maybe enough?
262 T : yeah
263 R : for year six or seven, not for year one
264 T : yes, one lesson with a native speaker, I would not mind what they do, just speak, they
would not need to learn anything, forget the books, just try to make themselves
understood with a foreigner.
265 R : have you tried this? To make them understand you? Or they know that
266 T : yeah, they know if they say a word or two in Hungarian I would know what they want,
and so, but with a stranger this would not work, they would just look at them and until
their face would not lit up until they understood it, what they wanted
267 R : yeah, like being abroad
268 T : sure, it would be really good, wow, how good this would be, but I do not think
269 R : who knows what the future holds, when your daughter learns here (she is three) well,
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Teacher Ica

Date of lesson 09.03.2006

Class P5
Date of interview 09.03.2006

((chat before))
1 T : so what shall I talk about now?
2 R : well. Just about today’s lesson
3 T : okay, does it work? ((the tape)) it does not. Yes, it does. Good
4 R : so just about today’s lesson, so not what you usually do but what you did
5 T : no no no, I did not even have a lot of time to prepare for it,
6 R : so what was it that was successful?
7 T : sure, you have to know that usually I could prepare for the lessons better, but this week
and last week was a bit problematic here, last week we had a party on Saturday, this
week, almost every day I have been preparing with two classes, grade 6b and 7b for the
English Literature Competition, where I am going to go from here, so for today, for this
lesson, how shall I say it, I did not really have time to prepare because these were the
things I was most concerned about, but this is not that important, but where we are, they
are in grade 5, but even then they are very good, and progress very well, mm I think they
are very good, so mm or I am satisfied
8 R : yes, that little boy
9 T : yes, he is by far the best one, he is the leader, he is very good too, Tony, I can also tell
you another boy who is very good, just he was missing today mm Steve he is very good
too, the girls are very timid, those two, and she is very timid too ((pointing at the seats
where the students had set during the lesson)) Kenneth is very brave, but not as brave as
those two, and Fiona, maybe she is best from the girls, Ruth, again, she is talkative but
she talks when she should not, and when she should speak she says silly things, well it
does not matter. What matters is that how I had planned this lesson to mmm first to
practise the musical instruments, well, I wanted to do this last time, but we did not have
a tape recorder, and a cassette, and today we had them both so I thought we would do it
now, so we practise the musical instruments, and also I kind of relaxed them a bit, as I
know if anybody is watching the lesson they are very frightened, they are afraid, and so,
well, what I wanted to tell you but I did not tell you on Tuesday, I knew we would talk
and I would tell you
10 R : sure
11 T : this lesson, lesson ten we have read it only yesterday the first time, so today it was the
second time they read it, as the homework was only to read it through and translate it to
be able to translate it well, because in my classes after when we wrote the vocabulary
test and when we read and translated it many times, then I sometimes, just to check
without warning, I ask the children orally too, then we do not do anything else, just read
it and translate it. So when we start working with a new text, a dialogue, I always tell
them to learn it by heart. They usually have a week to do this, six or seven days for this,
and after they have to tell me by heart
12 R : so today was the second time
13 T : this was the second time for us to work with this text. We did practise it again, they did
not tell me by heart it yet, as we had just read it yesterday, so that is right. The first time
we worked with it we put the new words into the vocabulary books ((of the students))
and so on. So this was the second time to be honest, so in theory tomorrow from
tomorrow they may get marks for it, because we have dealt with it twice already, so they
have to (xxxx xxxx), it always depends on how difficult it is and how well they know it.
14 R : was this a difficult one?
15 T : well, just a few parts of it, as you know the ‘have to’ they sometimes miss it out, but all
together this is not too difficult, only the conditional tense, that one last lesson,
yesterday I did explain it to them what the ‘zero conditional’ is, and what the ‘first
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and when the other and also we did practise yesterday a bit, from the Project book, we
did not have time to do it today,
16 R : and so today you started with the homework check
17 T : that’s right, that’s right, we actually always start with this, so usually the main part, the
lesson starts with homework check, they always have homework, maybe only if they
write a test, then they may not get homework for the following lesson
18 R : so how was how was it, I did see them correcting it with a green pencil
19 T : yes, that
20 R : so do you also check it?
21 T : no, I do not usually look at it, how shall I tell, they do it with green because they correct
it for themselves, if it is not correct, because we discuss it orally, if somebody does not
know something, they can ask it in Hungarian too, so we do not have it here that they
have to speak only English, it is not about this, we of course speak as much English as
possible, but there are some (teachers) who do not ask them to translate, they only
translate it once, and then they do not practise it, they only read it again and again in
English and that’s all. I do not believe in this. I would like to hear that they really know
it, that, that expression there, what on earth does that mean? So that is what I believe, if
they keep only reading it, they can, of course memorise it, but never in their lives will
they know what it means
22 R : so for example when they were reading it in English then they also translated it so they
would know what exactly it means
23 T : yes, I was interested to know if they knew it, if they remembered what what it means,
that is correct
24 R : sure
25 T : because this was not organised before so I could have told anybody to read any of the
dialogues, nobody knew who will be, and usually they never know who I will ask
((orally and then give a mark)) when I am giving marks for it to be honest, you know
26 R : so how did you (xxxx xxxx xxxx)
27 T : well, how we do it it is for getting mark it is not that I ask all of them, I just do a surprise
oral test, two people or maximum three are telling it by heart, this is about how it
happens, I tell them, you are this, you are that and then they can tell the text, or maybe I
tell them, you translate this much, you that much you that much that much translation,
so they do not know beforehand who will translate which bit, so everybody needs to
know everything. It is another question, that after the week, everybody is sitting there,
with closed books and that’s it, they just have to tell the whole thing. And they get a
mark for that.
28 R : and today, today, as you were working with it, they could choose who wanted to be with
whom, is it right?
29 T : well, sometimes they choose it, the first two times they can choose it, but afterwards no,
I tell them you do this, you do that you do that, so it would not be fair that somebody
would just say a very short bit all the time, that would not be good, everybody needs to
tell the longer ones too, to mmm what it is, to practise
30 R : and so from this the grammar or mm
31 T : there is nothing, no grammar here really, it was the conditionals, you see here that it is
about this ((showing the book)) this is what we did, mm yesterday, these the zero
condition, the first condition, we did these, this we did we did yesterday filled it in, so
we played played around with this, this what I mean, now with this, this this lesson this
is the main point of this lesson the conditional tenses, because we did not learn the
conditional tenses at all up till now, so this is the first time they meet with it. This is why
yesterday I explained to them in Hungarian what the difference is, that is what I mean,
that I always explain the grammar parts in Hungarian, I do not let them I do not say it in
English, even then they look at me like sheep, so if I explain the grammar even the
grammar in English they would not understand a words of it, they are too small for this.
In secondary schools and at universities it is possible to explain the grammar maybe in
English, if somebody is at that level, but I think it is better to work with the person’s
mother tongue with the grammar, especially if there are differences, because we
(Hungarians) do not have a zero condition as like this, for example
32 R : what I would like to ask, that during this lesson, when you ask something from
somebody and they did not understand the English, then how was that?
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person’s penny drops, that yes, this is about this, or if s/he still does not understand, as I
can see it in her/his eyes, as it is possible to see, then, well, we talk it over. So we either
translate it or talk it over what it was about
34 R : so today when somebody did not understand it, then then?
35 T : when?
36 R : what did you do?
37 T : when was it? I was not paying attention
38 R : no problem, I am just asking, not a problem
39 T : well, not, oh, yes, I tried to explain to him/her the expression ‘over eighteen’
40 R : yeah, how was that? ((glad that she remembered the incident…))
41 T : nothing, just wrote it up on the board, I wore up ‘eighteen’ and ‘over eighteen’
((showing it on the left of it)) that is how I explained, showed it, ‘over eighteen’
because as I say it, we did translate this text, we talked it over the same way, translated it
what means what, and here there was the same ‘be over eighteen’ ‘ because you have to
be over eighteen’ and then I said to them, as they did say something about it, I do not
remember, but they did say something, and I said it is almost correct, but children, the
way you should translate is that you have to be over eighteen, that is kind of of mm
42 R : so that was what you were referring to
43 T : yes yes that is right, over eighteen, that is right, yes yes yes yes
44 R : (xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx)
45 T : yes, but they knew what it was about, as I did show it, not this way, I did not show
eighteen and over I was not actually showing it with my hands like this before, we just
translated it and said that this is not incorrect
46 R : yeah yeah
47 T : but you should rather say that somebody has to be over eighteen
48 R : so what you had talked about that was what you were reminding them about
49 T : mmm yes well actually the text itself, as I knew that we had talked it over yesterday, I
did could see that there was no special problem with it, these expression like (xxxx) and
what else ‘jealous’ these expressions and like ‘mention’ and so on, so there were a few
words that we we wrote out into their vocabulary books, the ones that had not been at
the back of the books already, mmm and we talked it over how what how they should
translate them, but, at the end , mm I think this book is very good, the problem is that it
has the next book, ‘Open Doors 3’ mm that is not that successful, there is hardly any
dialogue in it, only texts, you know the type like here ((showing me the book))
50 R : you would like to have more dialogues?
51 T : I prefer dialogues, because they are more like real life, for example ‘never mind, or
that’s right, or I’ve got an idea’ or like this, how shall I say it, these are much more,
these ones, to be honest mm better. From the book ‘Open Doors 3’ there are texts like
this for example, about Walt Disney, a text about it, it is okay, it is very good, I ask
questions, good, but they will forget these, like the one today, we read it and that is that.
They do not remember it that much and also why on Earth should they learn that by
heart? Mm why should they learn all those facts and details? We are giving them so
many facts already, there is not a lot of sense in this. But from these (dialogues), even if
it is just 10% or 20% or 30% they remember, that is a good thing, as they may be able to
use it later on, when by chance they are in a similar situation or this kind of situation
they find themselves and then maybe they would remember
52 R : if they are in a video shop ((as they were having a text about that during the lesson))
53 T : that’s right, a video shop, even if not all of it, because they will not remember it all,
they will forget half of it, but even if one or two things, like ‘I’ve got an idea’ or
anything it does not matter, but any nice expressions like this, like ‘never mind’ or ‘let’s
wait’ any of these easy ones, as what they need is the easy ones, so if they remember
these then we did achieve something, at least that is what I think. But if there is only a
boring text, we read it, okay, I ask questions about it, okay, they answer the questions,
and then what? That is it. It is not a kind not a kind, you know, that we can act it out,
because these ones (the dialogues) the children love them very much, he is Mark, she is
the shop assistant, and he I do not know who, the narrator, these ones these ones, they
are happy to read them really, the other ones, well, they kind of read them and we
translate them and talk it over but that is that (3.0) so it is not a big deal to be honest, not
not they are not that mm keen on it not very interested. They and I are the same, because
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hundred pages about we are in a park and we are standing under a tree and then what a
beautiful weather it is and so on
54 R : sure
55 T : and this goes on and on, who cares, what I mean is that it is beautiful but we do not have
time for this today, we turn the page and when the dialogue starts that is what we read.
This is the same, they are interested in this, they like it, especially if there are photos
with it that it is I think it is perfect. The other book I actually hate it, but there isn’t
another one, as in theory we have to continue the same series of books, I do it but I
suffer, really suffer with it because I do not like it, I do not like it at all, and not just me,
the children do not like it either (2.0) maybe because I do not like it I do not know,
mmm (3.0) but what an earth can you like about that? To read it, And also there are
things in it like fighting sports. Well okay, if it is full of boys they are surely interested
in it, but for the girls a fighting sport like karate or judo or whatever
56 R : (xxxx xxxx)
57 T : it is not an interesting mm
58 R : at the beginning of your lesson
59 T : yes
60 R : you were asking them questions kind of mm questions mm about themselves, do you
remember?
61 T : my God, I do not remember
62 R : about (xxxx xxxx or xxxx)
63 T : yes, I remember! It was connected to this to this, it was with it was about ‘have to’ it
was ‘Do you have to do your’ whatever it is ‘your own breakfast’ and then ‘What do
you have?’ and then that is it
64 R : (xxxx)
65 T : well, that is it, it was connected to this, now I remember, because at the very beginning
it was the song
66 R : yes, yes
67 T : and that was we listened to that. I only did this so it would not be that they only read the
dialogues and that is that, like ‘yes I do’ or ‘no I don’t’ like I have to make my breakfast
or make my bed, but I wanted to know if they did understand the question and if they
could answer it, so if I mix it a bit with mm from example (1.0) there was ‘do you’
whatever ‘go to do you have to go to bed at a certain time?’
68 R : yeah
69 T : ‘certain time’ if they know what it means is a certain time, so like before 9.30 they have
to go to bed
70 R : yeah
71 T : and then so who goes to bed when for example (2.0) we had this before the daily
routines but we were just practising it a bit, I just put it in so to have wider chat not just
to read the homework it is not so important
72 R : I see, this was the homework
73 T : no, the homework, this was the first part of the homework, not for today, for yesterday,
just we did not have time to deal with it so I told them that today today we would correct
it (2.0) so that is how it worked: ‘Do you have to do any housework? Yes I do, I have to
clean my room every day’
74 R : yeah
75 T : so only these ones, one question and one answer, well well if somebody keeps telling me
‘No I don’t, no I don’t’ well, what is interesting in that? Nothing. That is why I thought
that I would ask questions about when they have to go to bed, when they have to get up,
and so on, in connection with the pictures they had to write short dialogues, there were
texts given to help ((she is showing me the book))
76 R : okay, and and what else, what else were you happy with and why? In the whole lesson
(xxxx)
77 T : which child or which part of the lesson I was most happy with?
78 R : mm both
79 T : well, about the children, Kenneth he is always showing off, we do not need to talk about
him, Kenneth is always like this, he is always like this. But all the others they did
behave the same way they usually behave, I am a bit surprised about this a bit as I just
had a similar lesson where somebody was visiting, it was for the parents to see that the
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stupid because at home if they do not speak or do not know something or do not
remember at once then it is that the child knows nothing, that is how the parents think.
Well, it does not matter, but we did I mean I did a lesson to (3.0) mmm to the parents
and mm (2.0) what was interesting that there are thirteen or fourteen of them and the
ones who are usually active they were active, but there were some who are not usually
active and they were active then, and there were some who are usually active and they
were not, they were frightened, because s/he had her/his mum there for example
80 R : I see
81 T : so what I wanted to say is that it was a different situation as you are not a parent, and
also they kind of know you a bit and they know not to be frightened of you because you
do any harm to them ((compared to the parents)) so maybe the situation was different, I
do not know, but here everybody was performing as much as they usually do, I have to
kind of shut him up to be quiet, and the others as I told you, some of them are less
active, some more, as this is the case in every class in every group, some of them are
more shy, not that open, not that talkative, but (2.0) they performed as they usually do,
not like the other group. I was interested very interested how the translation would go, as
I told you, we had just worked on it once, yesterday we read it and that is that, only
once, so considering this I think they did it really well, because this is really a totally
unknown text for them
82 R : and long too
83 T : that is true, not a long thing, well, there are things in it like ‘okay’, and ‘watch it’ and so
on, they do not need sentences like this, it is not the most important thing for them to
have a long sentence, they would not be able to remember it anyway, would not be able
to learn it and would not be interested in it either, so I was happy with that, (2.0) the
conditional tenses, they are getting there, but we will still have to practise it, I did not
want to do it today, but what I will do next is to practise translating, for example, If I
were rich I would buy a new house, and these, these will come now, so from tomorrow
we will continue this with a bit of translation, so I will dictate sentences in Hungarian
and they will have to translate them into English. But it is interesting, you could see that
they were frightened to speak English. Why? I have no idea. I think they would be able
to do it if they were to think a bit, but they mm oh my God ((frightened)) but I think it is
like this with almost everybody ((the teacher asked them at the end of the lesson to ask
me questions in English and they were frightened, only asked very basic questions, like
What’s your name?))
84 T : in the past it was the same for me too, oh my God, they asked me in English, oh my
God, what shall I answer? So the person is a bit frightened
85 R : I would like to comfort you, all the students I have met were a bit shy ((this was just
after the interviews with the students and they did not want to say anything. They were
happy to write though))
86 T : really, everywhere?
87 R : yes, in all schools
88 T : yes, it was all the same
89 R : but here I thought they were brave as they are still very young
90 T : yes, they are young
91 R : and they did ask me some questions
92 T : that is right
93 R : (xxxx)
94 T : of course, because I I I think they know more than that, but they are they are always
frightened, if they have to speak English, oh, they rather say nothing then. I asked them
well Aunty Kriszta, I think you want to ask something from them, or say something, but
they say no well, no no ((in a childish voice)) we have to say anything. Why, are you
frightened? You know when I asked them to say something to tell something
95 R : and what did they say?
96 T : wow, in English? We do not know the English that well yet. But little rabbits, it does not
matter if you say something incorrectly, you are at school learning English , you were
not born with it, in England, and know two languages at once, everybody knows that
you are only learning it you are only learning the English, if you make mistakes, no
problem, but they were kind of frightened and were shy that they have to say something
in English, they did not dare
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98 T : yes, they said no no they do not know English at all, do not be stupid (I say) (xxxx xxxx)
99 R : (xxxx)
100 T : it would be very different
101 R : is it okay to ask more questions or are you in a hurry? Or will the students come to this
room?
102 T : no, they are going somewhere else, it is okay
103 R : may I ask that when you during the lesson whenever they said something wrong you
corrected them at once, but when they were supposed to talk to me than they we agreed
not to correct
104 T : ((laughter))
105 R : not that (xxxx xxxx) but what do you think about this?
106 T : about what?
107 R : the correction
108 T : the correction? Well, about correction. In my opinion up to a certain point of course
correction is needed, I think we do need to correct the children, especially when they
read, especially, because of the pronunciation, there, well (1.0) if there is a problem with
the pronunciation then I think it is best to fix what I mean to correct it at once, because
at once, if I know, well, in the past for example, I have no idea where I got this from, but
I did not say ‘have’ but ‘hav’ ((wrong pronunciation, sounds like the second syllable of
the English word behave)), imagine this, this happened in Cyprus ((where she used to
live)). This was fixed in me so much I do not know why, that it took at least a month and
they always said ‘have’ and ‘have’ and every day the English teacher told me this and I
always said ‘hav’ ((laughter)) and it was always ‘hav’ and I do not know, after some
time I decided that maybe I have to change this, to change this, and then it went back.
But really, there are for example mm Freddy is the one (2.0) and somebody else, I do
not know right now if it is in this group, no it is in the other one, in group B, group 6B,
who (2.0) always says instead of ‘put’ ‘pat’, but always, yes, there is a little boy doing
this, it is Sam (2.0) who always, I think for a month now when this this ‘put’ comes he
always says ‘pat’ and says ‘pat’ and I always correct ‘put’ and even though I have been
correcting this for a month, and he still has the same mistake. So to tell the truth, we
have to, because if once it is fixed wrongly, wow, it is very difficult to correct it. For the
person to change into the correct one and not to say the silly one.
109 R : so what you mean is when the read, if they read something wrongly then
110 T : that is right, so they should not remember it incorrectly, but at once to remember it
correctly, so it would not stay in their ears ‘pat pat pat’ when they should say ‘put’
111 R : and so when they were talking to me, how did you want it, if
112 T : to ask more ((laughter))
113 R : sure, and correctly?
114 T : no, that was not, although okay, I correct it at once, as I remember at once, stupid
English teacher
115 R : ((laughter))
116 T : I tried not to (correct them) but still, it is difficult. What I like I would have liked, they
asked kind of ‘What’s your favourite film?’ ‘What’s your favourite food?’ These ones
they know, in the past I did ask these a lot, but they know other things too, for example
‘What time do you really get up?’ ((so the problem was that the students did not ask me
the latest questions with the most difficult structure, to show off? Maybe they were
interested in the film but not when I get up)) they know these words, ‘do’ and ‘does’ and
so on, they know them, so they could have asked other things too, this I was missing, but
mm (3.0) not just them, none of them are the types who like asking questions. Well,
(1.0) the problem is we do not have time to wait for somebody to ask a silly real
question. It takes a lot of time, it is useless, we have to wait
117 R : yeah ((do not agree but cannot tell.))
118 T : maybe what would happen is that it would be Kenneth who would perform all the time,
and the rest would just wait for him to work out with difficulties, a question.
119 R : so what kind of questions did you want?
120 T : well, it does not matter, kind of questions I usually ask them, for example what time
they get up, when they go to bed, what they eat for lunch, there are so many questions
121 R : maybe they did not want to ask me these questions
122 T : maybe, but I think they did not even think about these, I think they did not think, it is not
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set topics, we are preparing for the oral exam with this, and mm for the Middle State
Exam, ((similar level to Cambridge First Certificate)) and there are (topics about the)
family, the mm sport, mm weather, and what else, (2.0) ‘travelling’, I think they do not
have it there, the ‘daily routines’ and so on, so it is like ‘I usually get up at seven o’clock
in the morning, I get dressed’ and so they tell what they do during the day, you see. And
they have to talk without stopping, and if they miss out something or they stop then I
come with the questions. But, what we do, in grade 6 this is what we do, we practised it
this way, they told me by heart, they had to tell me, and got a mark for it and so on, (3.0)
but afterwards, when the parents the parents came, I did this on purpose that I did ask
questions, so it was not that somebody came out in front of the others and told the text,
we did this when they introduced America, but this was a different question, I also asked
questions about that, so but here it was ‘What time do you usually get up? mm When do
you have lunch?’ So I tried to play with the question words, as many as possible, How
often do you go to cinema, and so on, (1.0) to see if they understand the questions and
mm if they (1.0) can answer it. It was good, it was okay, this is what they like, if I ask a
question and they answer, if they really have to, they will tell these set oral topics, but
they are not that fond of them. They do not like it, but this is the only way to make them
learn it, you see. Afterwards they like it when I ask questions and they can answer with
one sentence only so they do not have to tell the whole story
123 R : sure ((I was rather shocked how much these students have to learn by heart, although I
knew it, during one of the first lessons with the other very successful teacher, K, a
student talked, or recited, about environmental problems for five minutes))
124 T : so so that is that, I cannot tell you anything else
125 R : I really liked your lesson
126 T : sure, sure, but as I said it before I had had not time to prepare, last night I was trying to
find some material, red clothes … ((and she talks for a long time about how she
organised the play, how she found a tail for the fox and so on….))
127 R : is this all for the performance?
128 T : yes, do you want to come and see it? it is from 1 pm , there will be two groups, grades 5
and 6 and 7 and 8. Those know a bit of English, and also, there is prose, and a poem,
mini drama, no song, they have not got singing. These three.
129 R : and who will be there? The district?
130 T : yes, all the schools from the district, or those only who applied.
131 R : it would be great, I have to go home but I will see. Where will this be?
132 T : here, in the Radnóti Centre ((for education, with library, internet, a theatre and
restaurant, near the school)) you know, just walk along and it is there
133 R : I know
134 T : the centre and it is there
135 R : I will try to see it
136 T : it will last till the evening and we will be amongst the last ones, so we will not start
before 3pm I am sure
137 R : okay
138 T : Drakula will be one, one group will act out Drakula, that one is the more interesting,
139 R : are there any mm any prizes?
140 T : well, not really, books, certificate and chocolate and these kind of things
141 R : who is the judge?
142 T : The PSZK, the leader of the English language teaching group, and s/he usually invites
others and the teachers who do not send the the group, they are invited and they are the
ones they are the members of the judge
143 R : great
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