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BILLIE PIPER
“The pressure
was huge”
CAMILLE
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“It’s Nana Tyler now”
SYLVESTER
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“We did it for
the fans”
DEVIL’S END
The white witch returns
“I’ve finally
become
a grown-up”
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12 DAVID TENNANT
18 BILLIE PIPER
24 CAMILLE CODURI
28 MATT LUCAS
40 SYLVESTER McCOY Part Two
58 PAUL FODEN
FEATURES
34 WHITE WITCH OF DEVIL’S END
62 THE TIME TEAM
The Rebel Flesh
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REGULARS
4 GALLIFREY GUARDIAN
6 BEYOND THE TARDIS
8 GALAXY FORUM
45 COMIC STRIP
Matildus
66 THE DWM REVIEW
74 CROSSWORD & COMPETITIONS
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76 COMING SOON
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DWM 518
12 LETTER FROM
The Editor
I
was recently asked to write
the introduction to a new
portfolio reproducing some
of Andrew Skilleter’s artwork
from the 1980s. While gazing
at Andrew’s cover painting for The
Leisure Hive novelisation, I recalled the
August evening, long ago, when I first
saw that story.
I knew that Doctor Who had changed
many times before, but this somehow
didn’t prepare me for the astonishing
make-over that unfolded in the opening
minutes of Part One. By the following
March an impossibly young Doctor had
arrived in the shape of Peter Davison and,
once again, everything I thought I knew
about the series needed re-evaluating.
When Doctor Who was relaunched
with Rose, almost 25 years later, I got the
same feeling all over again, although by
this time the idea of watching any new
episodes seemed unfamiliar.
It can be difficult keeping up with
the pace of change in Doctor Who, and
it’s nice to know that even some of the
actors who have played the Doctor feel
the same way. In this issue we speak to
Sylvester McCoy and David Tennant,
both of whom took the character in new
“So Billie, are directions before they stepped down.
David is refreshingly frank when he talks
you ready to go about leaving the role, although both he

and Sylvester are happy to maintain their
back in time?”
close links to the programme. Thanks to
Big Finish, we can still explore the worlds
of the Seventh and Tenth Doctors, while
David Tennant the television series prepares to forge
ahead with the Thirteenth.
New showrunner Chris Chibnall isn’t
giving much away about his first series,
but on the strength of what little we
already know I reckon it has the potential
to be a more radical reinvention than
Rose in 2005, the TV Movie in 1996 or
The Leisure Hive in 1980. Could next
year’s Doctor Who be an even bigger
surprise than Spearhead from Space
must have seemed in 1970?
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THE HARTNELL YEARS
n Koch Media
continues its Mobile Missy
M
series exploring
the world of ichelle Gomez will creative director Lee Cummings tells
Doctor Who reprise the role of DWM. “It’s going to be amazing to see
with The Missy, the female Missy up against our new young genius
William Hartnell Master, in the villain, Freya, who will be voiced by our
Years. This upcoming video favourite young actress, Bella Ramsey.”
double-disc game Doctor Who: Infinity. Infinity will feature puzzle gameplay
DVD set is Infinity is a new Doctor Who game similar to Legacy, but with a heavy
presented by Nicholas Briggs and being developed by Tiny Rebel, the focus on story. Each episode will have
includes interviews with Carole team that created the smartphone a distinct art and narrative style, with
Anne Ford (Susan), Jacqueline title Doctor Who: Legacy in 2013. the first stories set to launch on PC and
Hill (Barbara), William Russell Infinity will comprise standalone stories smartphones in spring 2018.
(Ian), Peter Purves (Steven) and that will be available to download The first adventure is written by
Jackie Lane (Dodo). There is individually, with five episodes currently George Mann and features art from
also a special tribute to William in the works. Michelle Gomez will join Mike Collins. “Any chance to work
Hartnell. It’s available from 13 Game of Thrones star Bella Ramsey in with Michelle Gomez is one I’ll leap at,”
November, priced £14.99, via the first story – The Dalek Invasion of says Mike. “Onscreen, she’s incredibly
timetraveltv.com and Amazon. Time. Ramsey will play a new character dynamic and unique. The idea of
created specifically for the game. working with her again in a story that
CHARITY ANTHOLOGY “We’re thrilled that Michelle Gomez features the Daleks – I’m there.” and Bella Ramsey is a bit of a dream
n Time has agreed to bring the incomparable George says, “I’m over the moon to gig, not to mention Daleks, and Mike
Shadows: Missy to life in our début story, The be working with the Tiny Rebel team Collins, whose work I’ve admired
Anniversary Dalek Invasion of Time,” Tiny Rebel again. Working within Michelle Gomez for years.”
Edition is an
unofficial
Christmas Treats
Doctor Who
short-story WHO TALK
anthology. Fantom Films has
A
All sales released two
proceeds benefit the charity range of Doctor Who documentaries, behind-the-scenes new titles in its
LimbForge. For more information merchandise is due to features, interviews with actors, writers range of unofficial
visit pseudoscopepublishing. be released in time for and other programme-makers, the commentaries,
com/timeshadows Christmas. binaural sound edition version Who Talk: The Talons
Doctor Who: The of Knock Knock, deleted scenes and of Weng-Chiang and
WILDERNESS Complete Tenth Series DVD and Blu-ray audio commentaries. Adventures in Space. Nicholas
YEARS box set will be available from BBC From the ‘Doctor Who meets the Pegg is the moderator for The Talons
n Child Out of Time: Worldwide from 13 November (RRP World of Roger Hargreaves’ range, of Weng-Chiang, a commentary for the
Growing Up with £35.99 on DVD). It will also be released the previously announced Dr Tenth: 1977 story which features Christopher
Doctor Who in the as a steelbook edition. The set will Christmas Surprise! book is now Benjamin, Philip Hinchcliffe, Roger
Wilderness Years is include the whole of the 2017 series available, priced £6.99. The first four Murray-Leach, John Bloomfield and the
Hayden Gribble’s of Doctor Who as well as the 2016 Doctor Who/Mr Men mash-up figurines late Trevor Baxter. Adventures in Space,
story of how he Christmas Special, The Return of Doctor – Dr First, Dr Fourth, Dr Eleventh moderated by Toby Hadoke, comprises
found the Doctor Mysterio. The set also comes with and Dr Twelfth – are also out now, commentaries from a selection of
as a little boy, a host of extras including retailing at £9.99. William Hartnell episodes and features
despite the fact that he Danilo has published the contributions from Maureen O’Brien,
grew up during the Doctor Who Official 2018 Richard Martin, Michael E Briant, Kay
years Doctor Who Calendar, priced £9.99 and Patrick, Peter Thomas, Jeremy Bulloch,
was off air. This available from Amazon. The Peter Craze, Martin Cort, Peter Stenson,
unofficial book calendar is themed around Roy Spencer and Clive Doig. Both titles
is available now the Twelfth Doctor’s greatest are available now as individual CDs and
from Amazon, adventures. For those with a sweet downloads priced £10.99, or as a special
priced £6.99 tooth, TARDIS Celebration Cakes edition bundle with extra material and
in paperback (produced by Finsbury Foods) are covers signed by the cast. See
and £4.99 as available from ASDA, with www.fantomfilms.co.uk for details.
an ebook. a recommended price of £11.99.

ADAMS’ River Song Returns BESSIE AT BEAULIEU
n The Third Doctor’s car, Bessie,
KRIKKITMEN
B
has been put on show at the
ig Finish Productions has she meets the Fifth Doctor (having ‘On Screen Cars’ exhibition at
Next year sees confirmed that there will encountered his sixth and seventh the National Motor Museum,
the publication of be more adventures incarnations in Series Two, and the Beaulieu. Bessie, a bright yellow
Doctor Who and the for Alex Kingston eighth in Series One). So what a Siva Edwardian, first appeared
Krikkitmen, a new as River treat to throw Madame Kovarian in Doctor Who and the Silurians
novel based on a Song. The Diary of River into the mix too, and to have in 1970 and was last seen in
long-lost Fourth Song: Series Three will Alex, Peter and Frances 1993’s Children in Need special
Doctor and Romana be released in January working together in studio. Dimensions in Time. Entrance to
storyline held by 2018, this time with the There was, I’m sure you ‘On Screen Cars’ is included in
the Douglas Adams Fifth Doctor (played by won’t be surprised to hear, the general admission ticket to
archive in Cambridge. Peter Davison) facing off much joy and laughter Beaulieu. For more information
Author James Goss has previously against evil midwife Madame between takes.” visit beaulieu.co.uk
novelised Adams’ Doctor Who stories City
Kovarian (Frances Barber). Big Finish has also
of Death and The Pirate Planet.
The box set will contain confirmed that River LETHBRIDGE-STEWART
Doctor Who and the Krikkitmen
will be published by BBC Books on 18
four hour-long adventures: Song will be returning SERIES FIVE
The Lady in the Lake by Nev for at least another n Candy Jar Books has
January 2018, priced £16.99. It will also
be released as an audiobook read by Fountain, A Requiem two box sets of The announced the titles in its fifth
Dan Starkey (price £25) on the same day. for the Doctor by Jac Diary of River Song, series of Lethbridge-Stewart
Both are available for pre-order now. Rayner, My Dinner which will take novels: The New Unusual
Also set for release next year is The with Andrew by the character by Adrian Sherlock & Andy
Missy Chronicles, a new anthology from John Dorney and into 2020. Frankham-Allen, A Very Private
BBC Books. This collection The Furies Haunting by
of tales will be written by by Matt Fitton. Sharon Bidwell
Cavan Scott, Jacqueline David Richardson, and The Man
Rayner, Paul Magrs, James producer of the series, from Yesterday
Goss, Peter Anghelides tells DWM: “River has by Nick Walters.
and Richard Dinnick. It’s been on a journey The books are
available to pre-order through the lives available to pre-
now for release on 22 of past Doctors, order now from
February, priced £9.99. and in Series Three candy-jar.co.uk

Beyond the TARDIS COMPILED BY DOMINIC MAY
Keeping tabs on what the cast and crew of Doctor Who get up to away from the series...
WHO TOPS TALENT 100? featured on Radio 2’s Simon Mayo

n Jodie Whittaker topped the first Drivetime on 13 September.
annual Radio Times TV 100 published
on 18 September. The list reflects the BILL’S BIRTHDAY
hottest talents of the past year. Jodie n Pearl Mackie returns to the London
commented, “I have had a brilliant stage as Lulu alongside Toby Jones
year… I can’t quite believe everything and Zoë Wanamaker for the 60th
that’s happened, I’m incredibly anniversary production of The Birthday
grateful.” Pearl Mackie came tenth Party at the Harold Pinter Theatre from
with Jenna Coleman at 14. Others 9 January to 14 April (BBC interview at
included voting panellist Steven tinyurl.com/PinterPearl). On 12 October
Moffat (24), Chris Chibnall (33), Pearl, who narrates Orion audiobook
Matt Smith (59), Peter Capaldi The Last Namsara (extract via
(64) and Mark Gatiss (78). Jodie tinyurl.com/PearlNamsara), recorded
has shared favourite school Room 101, hosted by Frank Skinner,
memories for the charity ActionAid at Elstree Studios for 2018 broadcast.
(tinyurl.com/JodieAction). She told The Guardian (30 September)
she wore white jogging bottoms on her
first date at age 15.
DEEP SPACE CAPALDI David Tennant as Crowley and Michael Sheen as the angel
n The archive of Star Trek: Deep Space Aziraphale in the forthcoming BBC Two series Good Omens.
Nine’s Ira Steven Behr has disclosed
that Peter Capaldi auditioned for his speech (tinyurl.com/DavidChoice). One family drama called Come Home
Commander Benjamin Sisko in 1992. Douglas Mackinnon used London’s playing bereft husband and father Greg.
Capaldi lately lent support to offshore St James Park as a principal location
wind technology appearing in during September while directing BBC CAPTAIN VICTORIOUS
Karen Gillan posted a campaign video shot at Westminster Two’s forthcoming drama Good Omens, n John Barrowman and his team
this image of herself and Tube station (tinyurl.com/WindCapaldi). starring David as Crowley and Michael Troublemakers won the season finale
Matt Smith on Instagram.
Peter, who reprises Mr Curry in Sheen as the angel Aziraphale. The of ABC’s Battle of the Network Stars on
Paddington 2 from 10 November, made script was by Neil Gaiman. 7 September (tinyurl.com/BarrowWin).
PONDS REUNITED a surprise visit to Glasgow’s GuitarGuitar Freema Agyeman continues as Claire
n Matt Smith, Karen Gillan and music store on 15 September. THE NARDOLE TIMES in Apologia until 18 November. She
Arthur Darvill reassembled at Atlanta’s n Matt Lucas gave an exclusive read transgender Cinderella story
DragonCon in early September, with BRADLEY LODGINGS interview to The Sunday Times Magazine Jamie for Alternative Family Week
‘the Doctor and Pond back together n David Bradley plays Bermingham in (24 September tinyurl.com/LucasSTimes) (tinyurl.com/FreemaJamie). Vampire
united by denim’ as per Karen’s Gothic horror movie The Lodgers, which and also featured on Radio 4’s Front picture Eat Locals with Freema as Angel
Instagram and ‘Karen and Arthur’s launched at the Toronto Film Festival Row on 2 October. He played Wes in the and Eve Myles as Vanessa is available
zany dance to Kelis’ Milkshake’ on 8 September (see the trailer 97 opening episode of Sky 1’s final series for iTunes download from 30 October.
(tinyurl.com/PondShake). Karen’s latest seconds in via tinyurl.com/LodgerBrad). of Stella on 13 September and is Tony
trailer for Jumanji: Welcome to the Forthcoming Bradley projects include Hendra in A Futile & Stupid Gesture, QUICKIES
Jungle, due on 20 December, is available Grandad in thriller Await Further the forthcoming biopic on National n Samuel Anderson plays former City
via tinyurl.com/GillanJumanji. On Instructions, Farmer in 14-minute Lampoon’s Doug Kenney. high-flyer Luke in comedy The Retreat at
25 August, Arthur had a close encounter short Edmund the Magnificent (trailer at London’s Park Theatre until 2 December.
with a Weeping Angel lookalike on the tinyurl.com/EdmundBrad) and series two WHO’S ON DISPLAY? Bernard Cribbins contributed to
set of Legends of Tomorrow, tweeting of the Netflix animation Trollhunters. n Matt Smith attended the Emmy National Doodle Day on 22 September,
a caption of ‘You’ve got to be kidding Awards in LA on 17 September plus benefitting Epilepsy Action. Dan
me’. Netflix has bought the rights to BROADCHURCH AWARDS associated pre-parties. Jenna Coleman Starkey features in an improvised
Arthur’s film musical Been So Long. n Chris Chibnall’s Broadchurch visited London Fashion Week on production of Twin Peaks at the
starring David Tennant collected Best 18 September for the Emilia Nursery Theatre in Finsbury
MARK’S MADNESS Drama Series, Best Wickstead and Erdem shows. Square on 3, 10 and
n Mark Gatiss attended Ink’s opening Actor and Best Karen Gillan graced the 17 November and
at the Duke of York’s Theatre on Actress at the opening of New York’s 1 December.
20 September. He is spymaster Robert 4 September Vivienne Westwood store
Cecil in BBC One’s Gunpowder, TV Choice on 6 November. OBITUARY
airing early November. Mark also Awards with Patrick O’Connell in n Patrick O’Connell,
stars in the Nottingham Playhouse Tennant CHRIS’ MACBETH The Dalek Invasion who played Ashton in
of Earth.
revival of The Madness of George III movingly thanking n Christopher Eccleston The Dalek Invasion of Earth
from 2 to 17 November, preceded by his wife Georgia co-presented Radio 4’s Loose Ends and who, as Edward Hammond,
An Audience with Mark Gatiss on Moffett during on 23 September. He makes his RSC regularly locked horns with Colin Baker’s
23 October. The full Russell T Davies’ début as Macbeth at Stratford’s Royal Paul Merroney in The Brothers, died on
Edinburgh TV Festival Outstanding Shakespeare Theatre from 13 March to 10 August aged 83. Alan Cassell, who
Achievement Award interview 22 September (public booking from was a discotheque customer extra in
is available at tinyurl.com/ 23 October), with a cinema broadcast on The War Machines, died on 30 August
RTDOutstanding. Russell 11 April. He is shooting a three-part BBC aged 85.
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Cardiff closed its doors for ARE YOU EXPERIENCED?
the final time on Saturday 9 n DAN JACOBS SOUTH CAROLINA, USA
September. This prompted some of Doctor Who made me fall in love with Cardiff! I came for the Doctor Who
you to send us your fond memories Experience and left with a true love for Cardiff and its amazing people. They
of trips to the Experience… made me feel welcome and accepted me not only as a visitor but also as a
Who fan. I will always remember the two gentlemen working at the local
MEMORABLE EXPERIENCE post office who proudly told me that they were in an episode of Doctor
n BRADLEY THOMAS (18) WALES Who with the Cybermen. And then there was the moment as I was walking
There was some tragic news recently towards that big, blue, beautiful Doctor Who Experience building in the rain
of the Doctor Who Experience when the sun suddenly came out, as if Cardiff was giving me its blessing.
closing down, so I thought I’d share I hope the Doctor Who Experience comes back. Our new Doctor deserves
some happy memories. I went her own Experience. And I want to come back to Cardiff
on fantastic adventures with the to share it with her and every other fan out there.
Eleventh and Twelfth Doctors, in
which I flew the TARDIS twice! The Dan’s letter wins him a copy of The Behemoth, a new full-cast
Twelfth’s adventure ended in Totter’s The Doctor (Peter Capaldi) audio drama starring Colin Baker as the Doctor. It’s available
has TARDIS trouble in the
Lane, which is really special as that now from bigfinish.com priced £14.99 on CD and £12.99
exclusive footage shown at
is where Doctor Who began. What the Doctor Who Experience. to download.
made it even better was that we
left past a recreation of the original
TARDIS console. n SHAWN LEVY & JADE KNIGHT favourite being Ace. Hayden is Worcester to Bromyard was
My favourite set was the Tenth EMAIL following his mum and dad in the blocked and we were diverted up
Doctor’s console, which was actually As soon as we heard that the Doctor cosplay world and already has a few a hilly, bendy, single-track road. We
used in the TV series! When Who Experience was to close we costumes to wear. could have used some of Bessie’s
I reached the green-screen photo just had to arrange a visit so Hayden, added extras! But it was worth the
opportunity, there were props our son, wouldn’t miss out. We Aww, how cute! We’re also sad to see effort. Speaking to the owner, it’s
provided. Of course, I used as many were also lucky enough to go on the Doctor Who Experience go, but it’s obviously a labour of love for him.
as I could… the Eleventh’s fez, the the TARDIS tour, which is something not just the Experience in Cardiff that (He was very helpful when Mum
Tenth’s 3D glasses, the Seventh’s we’ll never forget. And Hayden you’ve enjoyed visiting… had a problem with the stairs.)
umbrella, the Fourth’s scarf and made good use of the round things There’s a lot to see, and I doubt the
screwdriver, all while wearing my in the TARDIS, by lying down in one n ALISON JACOBS LINCOLN building could hold much more.
TARDIS jumper! of them! (Always wondered what Recently, my mum and I decided It’s just as fascinating to see small
Finally I went to the TARDIS set their use was!). to visit the small Doctor Who items like an Adipose pill box as
tour at the BBC Studios which was His eyes light up every time he exhibition in Bromyard, part of The larger ones like a 1970s Zygon.
a brilliant experience for any fan. As hears the Doctor Who theme tune. Time Machine Museum of Science I’d definitely recommend a visit.
I looked around in amazement, the He has already met six Doctors Fiction. It was a bit of an adventure
tour guide said, “I know!” and a handful of companions, his getting there – the road from Thanks Alison. We love the museum too.
We interviewed its owner in our Toys
Cosplayers gather for the last day and Games special, which was published
of the Doctor Who Experience on 9 earlier this year.
September 2017. Photo © Ryan Hickson
PREVIOUSLY IN DWM…
n NICK SAVAGE (19) RUGBY
Thank you DWM for the absolutely
fantastic Fact of Fiction in issue
517 on the 1964 classic The Aztecs.
This section, as well as the magazine
overall, continues to go from
strength to strength, and the in-
depth study of this ‘pure historical’
adventure was the most fascinating
thing I’ve read for months.
A properly good history lesson!
n STEPHEN PARRY BIRMINGHAM

I would like to offer kudos to
Emily Cook for perhaps being the
first person in the history of any
magazine to review a poetry book
with poetry. I really enjoyed her
review of James Goss and Russell

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of detail – and work – that went did any of you notice the horrible
into this issue. Equally impressive
were the efforts of those original
mistakes on the brochure that they
made for the tour? Apparently
WHO TUBE
fans who conducted interviews, the Cryons met the Sixth Doctor This month’s pick of
undertook extensive research in Revenge of the Cybermen (in Who -related videos
and generally cared enough to addition, it is later stated that
not just record Whovian history, the Sixth Doctor never met the
but to save it, enhance it and lay Cybermen at all!); Sutekh was
the foundations for others – fans rediscovered by ‘Marius Scarman’;
and professionals alike – to build and the Doctor once fought
upon. We owe them such a debt a Gastropod called ‘Nestor’!
of gratitude.
And let’s not forget the key role n STEVE WALKER n Jake Dudman reads extracts
that dear old DWM has played in SOUTH AUSTRALIA from the Doctor Who poetry book
this process over the years, giving I’ve just been reading the Public Now We Are Six Hundred in the
▲ The Fourth Doctor by Iain J Clark a platform to those early fan experts, Image feature (I’m ashamed to voices of the Tenth, Eleventh,
many of whom are now involved say I’m a couple of issues behind Fourth and Ninth Doctors.
T Davies’ Now We Are Six Hundred with the making of this wonderful at the moment) and it occurred Go to: tinyurl.com/JakePoems
in DWM 517. Well done, Emily. show. Excellent chaps, all of you! to me, as it usually does, that
On a separate note, The the TV ratings for the UK are
Parliament of Fear comic strip has n MARK ‘VOGON’ HOLDING just a small part of the story.
been my favourite in a long time. EMAIL Doctor Who is shown in
They’re all good, but this one has I loved Emily Cook’s review many, many countries so we
been top-notch. With that in mind, of Goss and Davies’ book / should take heart(s) that we can
any chance of a regular interview or Such craft with words, imagine also include overseas viewing
two with the writers, artists, inkers, how much skill and time it took / figures as a measure of the success n To celebrate National Poetry Day
colourists, letterers and editors of I’d never really thought myself of the show. In addition, many on 28 September, Russell T Davies
the various strips? I’d love to hear much of a poet chap / people will be watching the show and James Goss visited The Fan Show
more about what makes the comic But must admit it once it comes to talk about the release of their new
strip tick. brought a joy I just out on Blu-ray/ book, Now We Are Six Hundred.
don’t get from rap / DVD/digital Go to: tinyurl.com/FanShowPoetry
Thanks for the kind words, Stephen. In fact, so good was stores and we will,
If it’s more info on the strip that you’re this critique that now of course,
after, then check out our graphic I’ve gone and read it / watch these
novels – the latest, Doorway to Hell, It’s going on my episodes over
is out now, and features a ton of Christmas list – here’s and over again.
behind-the-scenes material. hoping that I’ll geddit! I’m guessing
shows like Britain’s
n NICK MAYS DONCASTER n JOSEPH BRITTEN Got Talent and n In a LEGO scene created by
I just wanted to say how completely EMAIL Strictly Come FiveWhoFans, the Thirteenth Doctor
blown away I was by your latest The Trail of a Dancing don’t finds herself in a spot of bother
Special Edition Referencing the Time Lord was an get a Blu-ray when her predecessors turn up to
Doctor. As a writer who has interesting and release and the provide wardrobe advice…
conducted research myself, I unexpected article associated multiple Go to: tinyurl.com/13Clothes
appreciated the impressive amount in issue 516, but repeat viewings.
THE Daft DIMENSION BY LEW STRINGER

n So long Doctor Who Experience
and thanks for all the memories!
Here’s a look back at some of the
Experience’s best bits.
Go to: tinyurl.com/GoodbyeDWE
n It’s a while until the Thirteenth

Doctor’s first episode airs, but here’s
a fan-made video imagining what
the new series’ opening titles might
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@ukwrestle77 I’ve been an avid
reader since 1987 and issue 517 is
one of the best and most eclectic
issues to date. Lovely tribute to
Deborah Watling too.
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@eraseresk Loving the heaps of
rarely seen (by me at least) photos Finish productions. When will they looked at her TARDIS that this
in DWM 517. This magazine just got announce the return of the Eleventh person was perfect for the role.
even better. A storming read. Doctor? The John Simm Master? It was not just that Jodie’s
@StuartHumphreys Going to work Vastra? Missy? The future for look said ‘quality actor’, but
with a big smile of pride today. Got Big Finish is looking very I sensed here is someone who
a double recommendation in DWM promising, reassuring us that loves and understands economical with the truth, and in
517’s WhoTube. Thank you DWM! no character is gone forever what Doctor Who is all fact this was something that until
@Skaro7 Did you know some in the Whoniverse. about and what it relatively recently in their history
pour soul is trapped in the small means to all us fans out they could not do?
print on page 3 of DWM 517? Who knows, Robert? As there. That one look Now I am sure greater minds than
#FreeSmallPrintGuy soon as they can coax tells me that we are in mine could explain this better (I am
the actors to recreate for a privileged time looking at you Mr Chibnall!) but as
their roles, we imagine. experiencing this Doctor, a result of the Time War, might the
n PETER THORPE EMAIL Let’s hope that’s possible. so let’s all embrace it and decision have been made at the
David Bradley as
I wish to thank you for making me Meanwhile, your emails celebrate the great things highest level of Time Lord society to
the First Doctor.
a happy DWM reader. I’ve loved about the future of Doctor that are to come! introduce some change affecting
DWM since I started buying it back Who and Jodie Whittaker the DNA of all living Time Lords
in the early 1980s, so as you can continue to pour in… n FRANCIS CAVE (47) – a sort of ‘Gallifrey gender update
imagine I do have rather a lot. HERTFORDSHIRE version 2.0’ – to ensure the survival
I have been re-reading my DWM TRUST ME, I’M A DOCTOR In World Enough and Time the of the race whatever the final
collection a nd came across the n GRAHAM GILLILAND EMAIL Doctor indicated to Bill that his outcome of the war?
last Archive that was done back I write this while watching the people always had the ability to After all, isn’t it in the legends
in 2003. Shortly after that came final episode of Trust Me starring change gender despite, as Bill of Gallifrey that it was Rassilon
The Fact of Fiction which I thought Jodie Whittaker. Watching Jodie’s pointed out, them referring to who gave his people the ability to
was just as brilliant as the Archives performance as Cath Hardacre the themselves as Time Lords (neatly regenerate, something they could
were. But... I think that The one word that keeps springing to avoiding the fact that in the series not have done before?
Fact of Fiction must be almost mind is ‘quality’. I have admired we had also been introduced to As for why it’s only the latest
complete soon. I’m not exactly Jodie’s work in Broadchurch and various Time Ladies). regeneration that will result in
sure on that, but I came up with can only feel that we as Doctor However, if this is true why is it the Doctor being a woman, well
an idea of what to represent Who fans have got an actor of real that, until very recently, we have perhaps until the Doctor found
after this completion. How substance. I felt from the moment not seen any Time Lords who had Gallifrey again he had been out of
about bringing back the Archives, she pulled her hood down and regenerated from female to male signal and therefore has only just
only this time featuring the or vice versa? Why no male received the update!
Big Finish audio dramas? Romana or female Borusa?
Could it be the case that the Until next time, keep writing
It a nice idea, but Big Finish audios Doctor was lying, or at least being (and drawing!)...
wouldn’t fit the archive format…
and besides, there are still plenty of The Doctor (Peter Capaldi)
TV stories left that deserve a Fact of and Bill (Pearl Mackie) discuss
Fiction. Speaking of Big Finish, last Time Lord genders in World
month it was announced there Enough and Time (2017).
would be new full-cast audio
dramas for the First Doctor,
starring David Bradley…
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I was very excited to hear about
the new Big Finish audio adventures
featuring David Bradley as the First
Doctor. That, combined with the
new Tenth Doctor audio adventures,
made me realise that the door
is now open for many new Big
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THE INTERVIEW
Ten
Again
It’s been over ten years since
David Tennant was cast as
the Doctor. As David returns
for more Big Finish audio
adventures, he reflects
on an eventful decade…
INTERVIEW BY BENJAMIN COOK
“Nice chandelier.
I might try and swing
on that later.”
The Doctor, The Sword of the Chevalier
“S
o Billie, are you
ready to go back
in time?”
“Oh yeah!”
“It’s like the
last decade never
happened,” beams
David Tennant, wearing the face of a man
who’s just remembered he can totally
time travel.
“I know!”
Oh, what a sickening love-in. But
haven’t you heard? It’s 2006 all over
again. David Tennant and Billie Piper
are reprising their television roles as the
Doctor and Rose, on Big Finish audio.
Volume Two of The Tenth Doctor Adventures,
a trilogy of original, full-cast plays set
towards the beginning of David’s Doctor
Who TV run, features: Infamy of the
Zaross (an alien invasion of modern-day
Norwich), The Sword of the Chevalier (in
1791, the Doctor and Rose meet the
Chevalier d’Éon) and Cold Vengeance
(the Doctor! And Rose Tyler! In space!
With Ice Warriors!). Sonically it’s an
all-you-can-eat buffet of alien creatures,
thrilling adventure, and fresh, outrageous,
mid-naughties fun. (And at around 1pm,

there’s an actual all-you-can-eat buffet. No
wonder everyone in studio is so cheerful.)
“Who’s that character from The Beano
you’ve come as?” director Nicholas Briggs
asks David, who’s turned up wearing a
red-and-black striped sweater.
“Will everyone stop with the Dennis
the Menace references?” says David.
“It’s an old, faithful jumper. It makes me “You don’t really feel
very happy.” the gulf of time at
“Well, that’s the main thing,” deadpans
Nick. As the voice of the Daleks – and
all. It feels like the
other beasties – on TV since 2005, Nick blink of an eye. And
can be heard throughout David’s tenure as yet, ten years!”
the Doctor, and beyond. Today, as well as
directing, he’s voicing the Ice Warriors; all
hisses and whispers. We were going to ask if he worries
“It’s lovely,” says David. “Hissing in my about getting older. David is 46 now. On
earlobe. You’re very good.” the Tenth Doctor Adventures CD cover, he’s
“It’d be embarrassing if I weren’t,” points still 34.
out Nick. “Ha! Ah ha! Yeah, I suppose… No,
Billie is impressed too. “I love it. Subtle.” I don’t, really, because you generally don’t
“Never knowingly underplayed,” feel the passage of time, and then you “When you look at him, you sort of forget Opposite page: David
agrees Nick. come in and you hear Billie’s voice… And that you’re acting and a camera crew is Tennant returns for
“Do you do these on telly as well?” obviously it’s not the same situation as there. You look into his eyes and it takes more Big Finish audio
adventures.
asks David. ten years ago – an audio recording’s very no acting on your part…” Photo © Tony Whitmore.
“I do. Well, I did the first time” – Nick different to filming a bit of TV – but the They began dating in
Top left: The Sword of
voiced Grand Marshal Skaldak in 2013 vibe is the same, and the characters are early 2008. On 30 the Chevalier by Guy
TV episode Cold War – “but I don’t think the same, and it seems to come back very December 2011, Adams is one of the
I’m doing them anymore.” When the Ice familiarly. So you don’t really feel the they got married. stories in Volume Two
Warriors returned in Empress of Mars gulf of time at all. It feels like the blink of The Tenth Doctor
earlier this year, Nick wasn’t involved. of an eye. Adventures.
David lifts both eyebrows and smiles. “And yet, ten years! You know, you Top right: The Doctor
“It’ll be rubbish without you, Nick,” think of what ten years meant when you (David Tennant) and
Rose (Billie Piper) in
he teases. were younger: that seemed like a vast
Journey’s End (2008).
We’re at The Soundhouse studios in amount of time. And an enormous
Above: Rose and
Acton, West London, and it doesn’t feel amount has happened to me
the Doctor brace
like the best part of a decade since David since I finished Doctor Who. You themselves for impact
and Billie last travelled through time and know, I’ve acquired a family in The Impossible
space together, fighting Nick Briggs and and responsibilities. And I’ve Planet (2006).
other monsters. “No, it doesn’t at all,” finally become a grown-up.” Left: David Tennant
David tells me. “It feels alarmingly recent.” (as the Doctor)
T
Does time go by quicker as you –? en years ago, on and his future
“– as you age?” he cuts in. “Are you 23 November wife Georgia
Moffett (as Jenny)
asking an old man a question, Ben? You 2007, David met in a publicity shot
were there ten years ago as well! Don’t his future wife, from The Doctor’s
pretend you’re in the first flush of youth Georgia Moffett – the real-life Daughter (2008).
any more.” He chuckles. “Yeah, it flies by. daughter of Fifth Doctor actor Peter
It hurtles at an exponentially increasing Davison – at the readthrough for the
rate, it seems.” 2008 Doctor Who episode The Doctor’s
Does David worry about – Daughter, in which she was playing the
“– death?” he says. “DO I WORRY titular role. “He’s an extraordinary
ABOUT DEATH?! It’s a marker towards actor,” she told Doctor Who
my grave, doing Doctor Who.” Magazine on set seven weeks later.
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DOCTOR WHO MAGAZINE
THE INTERVIEW DAVID TENNANT
Now they live together in
London with their four
children: Ty (aged 15), Olive
(six), Wilfred (four), and
Doris (two).
The past decade has
been prolific for David
professionally, too. He’s
won critical acclaim for his
theatre work, including the
title roles in Hamlet and
Richard II for the RSC, and
in Patrick Marber’s Don
Juan in the West End earlier
this year. His TV roles have
included DI Alec Hardy
in Chris Chibnall’s crime
drama Broadchurch (ITV1,
2013-17) and the petrifying
Kilgrave in Marvel’s Jessica
Jones (Netflix, 2015-present).
Months before he recorded
his final episode, Peter
Capaldi was already referring
to himself as “the future
former Doctor Who”. How,
we ask, has being a former
Doctor Who lived up to
David’s expectations? In 2010, hanging
up the Tenth Doctor’s Converse must
have seemed like a leap in the dark.
“Maybe because Doctor Who makes
such a big noise in the world at large,”
he answers, “moving on from it felt like
a bigger deal for the rest of the world
than it did for me. As an actor, you’re
a freelancer anyway – you’re a jobbing
actor – so leaving one job and looking for
the next is sort of what you do. You finish
a job, you say goodbye to people, you
move on. That sounds kind of callous,” he
laughs. “But it’s part of the profession.
“So I don’t think, as an actor, I looked
on it as quite such a significant life
step. You know, that’s…” He hesitates.
“I’m slightly reducing the impact of it
there, because, you know, the very kind
Right: The Tenth
Doctor prepares to say
of ubiquity of Doctor Who does make it
goodbye in The End of harder [to move on]. You’re aware that
Time Part Two (2010). people talk about Doctors leaving and
Top: Jessica Jones the next Doctor coming in, so there’s
(Krysten Rityter) a sort of story to it, and you’re aware
and Kilgrave (David that it’s one of the best jobs you’ll ever
Tennant) in the second have. And the most fun. The best people.
series of Jessica Jones. But the, kind of, professional act of
Above: David as it probably doesn’t impact on you in
DI Alec Hardy in
quite the way that everyone expects it
the third series of
Broadchurch (2017). to – because, as an actor, you don’t ever
expect any job to last forever.”
Opposite page above:
David joined Nicholas
Courtney, Mark Gatiss
and David Warner to “ Maybe because Doctor
record the Big Finish
story Sympathy for Who makes such a big
the Devil in 2003. noise in the world at large,
Opposite page below:
Skaldak (Spencer moving on from it felt like
Wilding), the Ice
Warrior from Cold War
a bigger deal for the rest of
(2013), was voiced the world than it did for me.”
by Nicholas Briggs.

DAVID TENNANT
@ BIG FINISH
Five things you need to know…
1
Since 1999, Big Finish has been releasing
original, full-cast, BBC-licensed Doctor
Who audio dramas starring Peter Davison,
Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy. Paul McGann
joined their roster of Doctors in 2001, Tom Baker
in 2012, and the late Sir John Hurt in 2015. Prior
to portraying the Time Lord on TV, David Tennant voiced several
supporting characters in various Big Finish Doctor Who plays,
including Colditz (2001), Sympathy for the Devil (2003), Exile
(2003) and Medicinal Purposes (2004).
2
David first played the Doctor for Big Finish
in The Tenth Doctor Adventures: Volume
“You make beautiful sense, Billie,” One, released in May 2016, which
Flashback: 24 March 2003 insists David. But he has some questions reunited him with Catherine Tate as Donna
for Nick too, who’s directing them from Noble for three new stories: Technophobia by
“It’s very exciting,” relatively unknown the Studio One control room. “Do you Matt Fitton, Time Reaver by Jenny T Colgan
thesp and long-time Doctor Who fan want me to do, um, ‘blowing on hands’ and Death and the Queen by James Goss.
David Tennant tells DWM about playing and ‘rubbing hands’? Or do you like to do
3
UNIT’s Colonel Brimmicombe-Wood in all that in a sealed booth later?” Volume Two, released this November, comprises Infamy
Big Finish’s Sympathy for the Devil. “In the privacy of my own bedroom? of the Zaross by John Dorney, The Sword of the Chevalier
“You kind of think, ‘Wow, I’m part of No, David, give it a go,” says Nick. “We’ll by Guy Adams and Cold Vengeance by Matt Fitton.
a national institution now.’” We’re sat in see how it sounds.” The plays are available to buy individually or as a trilogy, as
a rehearsal room at The Moat’s (original) “And when I say, ‘Look through here,’” digital downloads or CDs. Limited to just 5,000 copies, a lavish
South London studios, during a recording asks David, “do I already know it’s book-sized box set will be released too, with exclusive artwork,
break. “These audio plays are vibrant, and a freezer shop?” photography, articles,
full of life, and certainly full of creativity, so “Yeah. No. You do, yeah.” and bonus material.
there’s no reason why they can’t go on for the David gives Nick a quizzical look.
foreseeable future. I mean, I love the show. “Because – sorry, I’m being a bit – um, but
Obviously, as someone with a vested interest, I’m just –”
I’m desperate for it to come back to TV, but “You’re a handbrake,” says Billie,
I think it probably will before too long.” who’s laughing at him now.
“So would you like to do Doctor Who “That’s what they call some
again?” I ask. actors, do you know that? The
4
“I’d do it like a shot,” replies David. human handbrake.” “Going into Volume One,” says David
“Every now and again, I drop Big Finish “Ha! That’s brilliant! OK, Richardson, senior producer at Big Finish,
an email to let them know that I’m still I’m releasing the handbrake,” “I remember one of my concerns about us doing ‘new
very interested in doing more.” David promises. “Turn series’-style storytelling was whether its fast nature would work
over. Handbrake off!” so well on audio. You can do fast cuts and short
scenes easily on TV, because you’re following the
T
he slow drip of melting ice images. On audio I felt it might be disorientating.
and crunching underfoot. But James Goss taught me with Death and the
“Ohh,” says the Doctor, Queen that we could do that kind of hugely
blowing on his hands. energetic narrative without people losing the
“I tell you what, it’s a bit nippy.” thread. So these three episodes on Volume
This is Cold Vengeance. The Two are a wonderful breakneck ride.”
Doctor and Rose are on Coldstar,
5
a vast freezer satellite packed Will Billie Piper be back
with supplies to feed a colony for Volume Three? Will
world. “Frozen food storage,” Catherine Tate? How about
explains the Doctor. signing up Martha actress Freema
“Hang on,” says Rose, Agyeman? “We’d love to work
following him out of the with them all,” says Richardson,
TARDIS, “you brought me “and would have more scripts
to a freezer shop?” underway in an instant, but
“Yeahhh. Look we’re talking about actors whose
through here –” schedules are full with countless
“Why’s it quite hard film, TV, and theatre projects. It’d
to follow?” Billie wonders be a privilege to make more, but
out loud, rereading the scene. there’s nothing in development
“It’s because there are less stage right at this moment.”
directions, right?”
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DOCTOR WHO MAGAZINE
THE INTERVIEW DAVID TENNANT
“One feels a certain ownership over

the role, yeah, and coming back to it you
want to be loyal to the memory of what
that was and what it meant to so many
people. You want to join the dots up. You
want it to be emotionally true. If you play
a character for a number of years, then
maybe you know it all the more robustly.
Certainly you recognise if a beat feels
wrong. It’s remarkably rare, actually. It was
remarkably rare doing the TV series, and it
has been doing this as well, but that’s why
I feel a responsibility if something doesn’t
quite chime tonally.”
In 2013’s The Day of the Doctor, David’s
most recent TV outing as the Time Lord,
he secured the coveted “Never cruel or
I
Above: The Eleventh t isn’t long before the Doctor has “Cos it’s really not what he does, is it?” cowardly” line. Is that what the Doctor
Doctor (Matt Smith) a lot more than frozen food on says David. “The Doctor usually sticks up aspires to be? And does he manage it?
and the War Doctor
his plate: angry Ice Warriors, a for the little guy.” “It’s a mission statement,” says David.
(John Hurt) join
forces with the Tenth management robot, a Scottish “I do see your point,” says Nick. “We can all have mottos that we live by;
in The Day of the space pirate called Callum and a refuse “He’s more likely to be dismissive of it doesn’t necessarily mean that we’re
Doctor (2013). collector called Lorna about whom David the pirate,” David suggests. “Could we not entirely faithful to them. It can be who
Above right: “Never has – another – question. “When I say, switch it? I could say, ‘Lorna and, er, the you aspire to be. It doesn’t mean you
cruel or cowardly.” ‘Rose, shuffle over and check on those two little pirate boy’, to dismiss him a bit more. can’t be inconsistent sometimes. That’s
The Doctor remembers – Callum and, er, the other one,’ why do Because he’s a pirate.” what makes any character and any person
his promise in The Day I not know Lorna’s name?” “That’s a really good idea, David. Do it interesting – their inconsistencies, the
of the Doctor.
“Um,” says Nick. “The Doctor has only that way – ‘the little pirate boy’.” little flaws in the weft of their character.
Below: A publicity shot just met her.” Afterwards, we ask David about that I don’t know if the Doctor always needs to
of David and Billie
from the 2006 series.
“It’s just – I suppose I worry –” scene. Does he feel an obligation to be consistent to that, but I think broadly
“– that he sounds too dismissive?” portray the Doctor responsibly? speaking he is. At least, he tries.”
INFAMY OF THE ZAROSS BY JOHN DORNEY Why do you think Rose works so well
alongside him?
“Billie Piper, I think. She’s an
DWM: Hello John. An alien invasion of Doctors. How does the Tenth Doctor able to flip on a dime from enjoying astonishingly good actress. The
Norwich. That’s one hell of a pitch. measure up? himself to righteous anger. A lot of character is great in the first place,
John Dorney: “That’s very kind of you “There’s a school of thought that you confidence and imbued with real heart and courage,
to say. Initially I’d conceived the story can write the Doctor the same, and the certainty there.” and Billie makes it real. She
as being set on an alien world, but then actor will make it fit by spinning the grounds everything. She was
I was assigned Jackie – and I wasn’t words in their own voice. the soul of that 2005 series;
about to turn that down. I’m no fool! I don’t really agree. I think the the character that led viewers
So I retooled the idea for modern-day scripts are always stronger, back to the programme. Great
Earth. I think that made the whole thing more individual, if you tailor writing, great acting.”
a little stronger.” them for the specific actor. Tom
[Baker] and Paul [McGann] lines
What have you got against Norwich? could possibly switch, in my
“Nothing! My family lived reasonably experience, but everyone else
locally, so I’ve been there a lot. It’s a feels very much distinct when
beautiful town, but also quirky. With I’m writing them.
the ‘big city’ cities, like Birmingham and “How the Doctor reacts to
Manchester, you can easily imagine a situation is largely going to
aliens having a reason to invade. be the same too. But there’ll
Invading Norwich is just… odd.” always be some aspect of their
personality that hits in a different
You’ve written Big Finish plays for the way. The Tenth Doctor is very
Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, Seventh, and Eighth hands-on, straight in there,

“I resign from the internet!”
O
n 16 July, David’s and to be poised to take it to a whole I liked the last guy. This is not going to
Broadchurch co-star Jodie new level.” work for me. This show is dead to me.
Whittaker was revealed Asked if there’s been any backlash I resign from the internet! SEND!!’
as the Thirteenth Doctor. to Jodie’s casting, David There was a lot of that, and
Appearing on CBS’s The Late Show explained: “Whenever the that happens every time, and
with Stephen Colbert on 9 August, Doctor changes, there’s a that’s because it’s a show
David declared: “I’m delighted. You backlash, because that’s that has a lot of enthusiastic
know, she’s been on Broadchurch for a character that people followers… Sure, Jodie is
three seasons, so I know her very well. love, so people get very from a different gender than
She’s a mate of mine… A couple of affectionate about the Doctor anyone who’s gone before,
days before it was announced, I get they knew.” but that will be irrelevant almost
this phone call from her, and she’s “Was there backlash for you?” immediately once she takes the part…
in sort of a tunnel of excitement and wondered Colbert. It’s about finding the right performer
panic… But it’s brilliant. I can’t think “Oh, sure. They were like, ‘Who’s at the right time. And that’s Jodie,
of someone better to join the gang the weaselly looking guy? Who’s this? without a doubt.”
a room with, so you look forward to it, to

hanging out and catching up. That’s just
fun and a joy. If you have any reservations,
it’s about recapturing what those characters
sounded like together. One is slightly
more nervous about whether we’ll be able
to reacquaint with the characters. Because
you want it to be good enough. You want to
get it right. The last thing you want to do is
mess it up.”
On a day like today, in studio with
Big Finish, we wonder whether David
feels nostalgic about the TV show.
A little sentimental?
“I always feel fond towards it. I always
feel like it’s a happy place to be. Obviously
Flashback: 25 July 2005 a day like this brings it all back a little
more keenly, but it’s always a very fond
In a West London car park, David, Billie, thing to return to, the world of Doctor
Camille Coduri (Jackie), and Noel Clarke Who. It’s always very welcoming, and
(Mickey) share a group hug, before their friendly, and familiar. I suppose
first ever shot together: looking up at a I don’t feel detached enough
Sycorax spaceship (retreating) that isn’t from it to feel sentimental,
really there. Director James Hawes talks really. Maybe if I’d been
them through it. “You come in – spaceship completely banished
up above – it’s starting up its engines – from it for ten years…?
moving away – and BEAM OF LIGHT! – But of course it never
and another one! – and a third! – and then quite goes away, does
we cut into CGI.” it? There’s no escaping
One take later, James calls, “Cut!” Then it, nor would I want to,
he announces: “Everyone, that is David’s really. Because Doctor
first shot of the series.” Who sort of runs
“You can send wee Jimmy Krankie home,” through my life like
shouts out David, as the entire set breaks a stick of rock. It’s
into applause. “She’s not needed. That’s it, sort of always
it’s in the can. You can’t get rid of me now.” bubbling under,
and you know it Top inset: Jodie
Whittaker as Beth
always will.”
T
Latimer in the third
hese days, David and Billie don’t series of Broadchurch.
get to see each other as much Above left: Rose, the
as they’d like. They both have Doctor, Jackie (Camille
families now and are working Coduri) and Mickey
pretty constantly. So the prospect of
spending time with Billie again and – at
“It’s always a very fond (Noel Clarke) witness
the destruction of the
next week’s recording of Infamy of the thing to return to, the world Sycorax ship in The
Christmas Invasion
Zaross – Mother Tyler herself, Camille of Doctor Who. It’s always (2005).
Coduri, is what drew David back to Big
Finish. Was there any anxiety there? very welcoming, and Above: Rose and the
Doctor visit the New
“Oh, no,” says David. “You just know friendly, and familiar.” New York Hospital in
these are people that you’re happy to be in New Earth (2006).
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DOCTOR WHO MAGAZINE
THE INTERVIEW
Thoroughly Modern
She’s back! Billie Piper makes her Big Finish début
this month, starring as Rose Tyler opposite David
Tennant’s Time Lord in The Tenth Doctor Adventures.
And this time, she’s doing it for the kids…
“You mean, is it a bit weird

“I’m Rose Tyler. He’s the playing a 19-year-old now that
I’m a 34-year-old mother of two?”
Doctor. One question: what Well, we suppose. But more
that it’s a role in which Billie was
the hell’s going on?” wildly successful and for which, to this day, she’s universally
Above: Cold Vengeance
features in the
adored. She must have been tempted to just leave it be. Yet second volume of Big
Rose Tyler, Cold Vengeance here she is, back in time. Finish’s Tenth Doctor
“It just feels like another opportunity to keep the Adventures.
“S
flame alive,” she says. “You know, I felt as though, Below left: The
he perfectly sums up what people because everyone’s doing it [Big Finish], was I missing out? Chevalier (Nickolas
would now call a modern woman, Also, it’s all people ask me at conventions,” she smiles. Grace) from The Sword
of the Chevalier.
you know?” says Billie Piper, when “It was getting awkward.”
we ask how she’d describe Rose Dressed casually in a T-shirt and dungarees, Billie is Below: David Tennant
(as the Doctor) and
Tyler to a Doctor Who newbie. “She’s at West London’s Soundhouse studios today, 11 May,
Billie Piper (as Rose
big on curiosity and danger, and to record Cold Vengeance, the Ice Warrior third of a Tenth Tyler) pictured during
has a real zest for life; she’s very Doctor triple-decker. And she’s frowning at page 12. the making of Rise of
front-footed and very single-minded about things that she “Is this a Rose joke here? ‘Henrik’s January sales’…?” the Cybermen (2006).
really is passionate about.” A pause. “And I like her.” “That was the shop you used to work in,” explains Opposite page: Rose
Was there any trepidation about resurrecting Rose for director Nicholas Briggs. returned to Doctor Who
Big Finish? “Oh!” she says. “Sorry.” in Journey’s End (2008).
THE SWORD OF THE CHEVALIER BY GUY ADAMS

DWM: Hello Guy. The Sword of the “The Chevalier is a mystery in many himself a swordsman. Of course the which makes you look like a bit of
Chevalier is Volume Two’s ‘celebrity ways. Did she live as a woman through Chevalier would be one of his heroes.” a lunatic, but who cares?”
historical’. How did you settle on choice or political expediency? It
a subject? hardly matters. I just wanted to bring Did you enjoy writing the Doctor So how would you sell The Sword of the
Guy Adams: “I found it more difficult a vivacious, thrilling character into the and Rose? Chevalier to any DWM readers who, for
than I thought. Most of my obvious ears of our listeners.” “Very much. Writing for David’s Doctor, reasons best known to themselves, are
choices were too recent – and you have to get the rhythm, that still on the fence?
potentially litigious! Then I stumbled Explaining d’Éon to Rose, the Doctor machine gun of affable delivery; a man “Any reader of DWM who doesn’t
upon the Chevalier, a sketch of her, in says: “Who cares about gender anyway? constantly self-editing his own speeches want to spend an extra hour with the
voluminous dresses, fencing like the It’s an archaic concept… Embrace as he tries to make himself clear or Tenth Doctor and Rose isn’t sat on
champion she was.” change! It’s the only way.” Guy, you must simply changes his mind while skipping a fence; they’re sat in a padded cell.
have had an inkling that the Thirteenth over a comma. Then there’s that balance David! Billie! Terrible aliens! A fencing
This is the Chevalier Doctor would be female…? between the jolliest man in the universe champion in a frock! What have you
d’Éon [who lived “Nope! But perhaps the and a cold, possibly even dangerous got to lose?”
from 1728-1810 and Doctor did. I think the force of nature just beneath
is voiced, in The Chevalier could have the surface.
Sword of the worked well with a lot “And Rose is wonderful.
Chevalier, by Nickolas of Doctor Who pairings, The sheer joy with which
Grace] – a gender-fluid French but there’s something in she faces the universe!
diplomat, soldier, and spy. In the the sense of fun and the open She – and this is all about
Doctor’s words, a “brilliant” and acceptance of the Doctor Billie, really – is the sort of
“ever so slightly confusing” and Rose that made it seem person who, when she grins,
character who lived as a man a flawless combination. you can’t help but grin back.
for his first five decades, and Besides, we know the Even when she’s on the telly
thereafter as a woman. Tenth Doctor fancies and you’re sat at home –

Billie
“Is it a bit
weird playing
a 19-year-old
now that I’m
a 34-year-old
mother of two?”
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Doctor Who – you know, life changes your
voice – so I’ve had to sort of pitch it up
a bit. But otherwise it’s like muscle
memory, isn’t it?”
“David and Billie are a dream team,”
says David Richardson, Big Finish’s senior
producer. “Their on-screen partnership
is one of Doctor Who’s golden eras, and
the opportunity to reunite them was
something of a holy grail. We were
encouraged when Billie made positive Flashback: 13 March 2008
noises at conventions about working for
us, so that was the point at which Jason “Is this shot on me too?” Billie asks director
[Haigh-Ellery, Big Finish’s chairman] Graeme Harper.
contacted her agent with an offer. Once “Oh yes, it’s all about you,” roars
we had Billie, securing David again was Captain Jack actor John Barrowman. “Get
Above left: Rose “What, do you mean you don’t relatively easy, because he was so keen those teeth moist!”
encounters the remember?!” jokes Nick. to work with her. But we never took for In a cold, cruel suburban street, the
Daleks once more in To be fair, it’s been nine years since granted that he’d do it, and we are so Doctor has just been blasted by a Dalek.
Journey’s End.
Journey’s End, when Billie last played Rose lucky to have him. It’s a huge deal for us.” He’s lying in the road, cradled by Rose
Above right: Rose is on TV – a brief cameo in 2010’s The End Tyler. And it’s starting to rain. “Not so
T
finally reunited with
the fatally wounded
of Time Part Two aside – and it’s as long he three stories that comprise much wincing, David,” requests Graeme.
Doctor in The Stolen since she was last interviewed in the pages The Tenth Doctor Adventures: “That was my best acting of the night!”
Earth (2008). of Doctor Who Magazine. “Sometimes Volume Two are set during the TV exclaims David.
Below: Billie and it feels longer,” she says, “but sometimes show’s 2006 run – Billie’s second “Oh, this is no time for acting,” says
David share a joke on it feels like yesterday. I think because series, David’s first. As we chat in a corner Billie, gazing down at him. “Hey, I could
location at Rhossili the show has such an afterlife – like, of the studio over lunch, Billie casts her stick my fingers right up your nose, David.”
Bay in Swansea for conventions and things – you’re never mind back further, to the 2005 series He guffaws. “Like a bowling ball!”
New Earth (2006).
totally away from it.” with Christopher Eccleston’s Doctor.
In the Big Finish recording booth, can “That year, the pressure was huge,” she
she find her inner Rose in an instant? Or remembers. “We took it so seriously. ‘Oh From the beginning, Billie felt an affinity
does it take a bit of a run-up? my God, what have we got ourselves into?’ with Rose. “I think that’s why I got the
“Well, some of it is a bit dodgy,” she None of us knew, really, what we were part. I felt like I knew her, this girl who
admits, “but then you just get into it. taking on, and a lot of people weren’t wanted more from life than watching TV
I think my voice has dropped since I left very happy that I was there at all. The and eating chips. I could relate to that.
Whovians, they have a very clear idea of… The frustration. The feeling trapped.
“ We came back [for the 2006 you know? They will embrace change, but
not always straight away.
Wanting something more. That was me
when I was younger.”
series], and the show was this “But then we came back [for the 2006
big success, and suddenly it series], and the show was this big success,
and suddenly it was like, ‘Oh, we can relax
was like, ‘Oh, we can relax a bit a bit now. Let’s have fun.’ When David
now. Let’s have fun.’” arrived we had a laugh, and we haven’t
stopped. What I realised is, there literally
isn’t a nicer bunch of people in production
than on Doctor Who.”

So when she quit the show – first in 2006
and again in 2008 after her temporary
return – it must have left a sizeable hole
in her heart. Does that kind of loss take
time to sink in?
“A stretch of time,” she nods, “because
immediately it’s just nice to get your life
back. Because, as you know, it’s such
a full-on shoot. And, if I’m honest, I found
Doctor Who quite overwhelming at times.
It becomes a topic of every conversation. lovers. He’s a politician; she’s his troubled Top left: News of
Leaving was sad, but I wanted a change. and unpredictable ex-girlfriend. “And Billie’s departure
made the front page.
I really needed some separation from John’s little girl is in it,” reveals Billie.
it. Then [after leaving] your life totally “Molly, yeah. She’s playing our kid. It’s Above: As Belle in the
fourth series of Secret
changes. But people still want to talk about funny, I’ve known John since I was 17,
Diary of a Call Girl
Doctor Who! So it takes a while for you to and he remembers.” She cringes. “He (2011).
go, ‘Oh God, I miss it.’” reminded me of the first time we met,
Left: Yerma won Billie
at my flat. I was having a house party.”
S
an Olivier Award for
ince Doctor Who, Billie’s had Billie has kids of her own now. She Best Actress in 2016.
small-screen successes – Secret and ex-husband Fox raise their two boys Below left: Cold
Diary of a Call Girl (ITV2, together: Winston, aged eight, and Eugene, Vengeance writer
2007-11), Penny Dreadful reprised the role in 2017, and is taking it aged five. If either decided they wanted to Matt Fitton.
(Showtime/Sky, 2014-16), et al – but her to New York next year. be an actor, would Billie be on board? Below: Rose and the
greatest love is theatre. She made her Billie’s next big telly project, coming “If I sensed that my children were Doctor keep schtum
West End début in 2007, in Christopher soon to BBC Two, is contemporary thriller passionate about anything, I’d help them in Fear Her (2006).
Hampton’s Treats, alongside Laurence Collateral, written by renowned playwright pursue it, but I would have a good instinct
Fox (whom she married later that year) David Hare. All four leads are Doctor for how serious they were about it, I think.
and Kris Marshall. In 2016, she starred in Who alumni: alongside Billie, there’s If it was a genuine thing, then I’d do
Simon Stone’s new adaptation of Federico Carey Mulligan (Blink’s Sally Sparrow), anything I could to help them. But it’s
García Lorca’s 1934 tragedy Yerma, for John Simm (the Master) and Nicola a hard life to deal with at times.”
which she picked up several Best Actress Walker (original Big Finish companion And she should know. As a former child
awards, most notably an Olivier. She Liv Chenka). Billie and John play former star – whose first single, Because We Want
COLD VENGEANCE BY MATT FITTON that cocksure attitude. They’re slightly

too full of themselves, each one is out
DWM: Hello Matt. The Ice Warriors must the past. They have a code of honour Cold Vengeance different to the ‘2008 to impress the other, and that can be
be the most popular monsters that the forged over generations, but it’s an alien Doctor’ of Technophobia? disconcerting for the ‘ordinary’ people
Tenth Doctor didn’t encounter on TV. system of honour. Proud, but brutal, in “The Tenth is different with each of his around them, caught up in events.”
Was that your starting point? the way strict hierarchies can be.” companions. With Donna it’s a much
Matt Fitton: “Yes, the Ice more matey, relaxed version. With Rose Over 12 years after she first appeared on
Warriors were always, for me, You’ve written over 30 he’s newer, more of a show-off perhaps. TV, Rose Tyler is still one of Doctor Who’s
next in the Premier League original Big Finish plays, Both Rose and the Doctor think the most loved characters. Why is that?
of Who Monsterdom, after for the Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, other one’s the new guy. Rose has this “Quite simply, Billie Piper is awesome.
Daleks, Cybermen and Seventh, Eighth, War, and confidence, having been around It’s thanks to Rose Tyler as much as
Sontarans, so it seemed only Tenth Doctors. What makes the block with the Ninth, anyone that we’re now awaiting
natural to have the Tenth Doctor Ten unique? while the Doctor… the eleventh series since the
Doctor run into them. Once the “Every Doctor is unique, is the Doctor! I 2005 comeback. In 2004, when
foe was decided, I had the setting but the Tenth has a joie de wanted to capture she was announced as the
in mind straight away: a massive, vivre at rediscovering the universe, companion, I knew we’d be in
futuristic, frozen food storage facility, after working through the angst of his safe hands – but she surpassed
hiding something far more dangerous previous incarnation, so much of the all expectations.”
deep in the ice.” time we see him marvelling at how
brilliant everything is. He’s one of the
What’s the key to writing Ice Warriors? most human Doctors, and Rose has a lot
“Remember the ‘Warrior’ part. We know to do with that.”
they can be reasonable and play a role
in the future Galactic Federation, but You wrote Technophobia for The
theirs is a society founded on defence. Tenth Doctor Adventures: Volume
Clearly Mars has fought off invaders in One. How is the ‘2006 Doctor’ of
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THE INTERVIEW BILLIE PIPER
To, was released when she was just 15 –
Billie seems to have dealt with life in the
public eye remarkably well.
“Thank you very much. But I think
I started too young, if I’m honest. Mm,
I think, on reflection, you need a bit more
growing time and more time at home
with your family, and I wish I’d stayed at
school a bit longer, so I’d be really mindful
of that.”
Being a mum is, she says, the reason
she’s started attending Doctor Who
conventions this past year or so, where
she’s asked such questions as “What’s your Flashback: 27 July 2005
favourite condiment?” (this year’s Dragon
Con), “Can you do a bottle flip?” (Planet On South London’s Brandon Estate –
Comicon), “Have you ever stayed up more doubling for the Powell Estate, the TV home
than 24 hours?” (Dragon Con again), and of the Tylers – David and Billie have just
“Why you gotta play that song so loud?” arrived in the back of a people carrier.
(MCM Birmingham Comic Con). We Billie is first out, cigarette in one hand,
wouldn’t have put Billie down as phone in the other. David, clad in striped
someone who’d embrace cons. pyjamas and a dressing gown, clambers out
“No, I do,” she says. “I really after her. “As soon as she appeared,” David
like them. I like meeting the kids, recounts afterwards, “all the kids watching
because I now have my own, the filming darted towards her. But Billie
so I know what it means to my was holding a cigarette. She couldn’t let
kids, with their passions. Before, the kids see her smoking, so she hastily
I found the child attention handed it to the nearest member of the
quite annoying, crew – which happened to be me! I was left
because I just kind of going, ‘What am I going to do with
wanted to go this?’ And then the kids spotted me – I was
about my life, surrounded – and they must have wondered
but since I’ve why the new Doctor, hero to millions of
had children, kids, was standing there in pyjamas and
it’s a really a dressing gown, apparently smoking a fag!
emotional Oh, I was so shamed.”
experience
for me.”
Billie and David last appeared on screen
together in 2013, in 50th anniversary
episode The Day of the Doctor, alongside
Left: Billie as the her “dear friend” Matt Smith and the late
Moment in the 50th Sir John Hurt. Billie played the Moment,
anniversary episode
the most dangerous weapon in all of
The Day of the Doctor
(2013). creation. But it was no Rose Tyler. “It was
cool to come back and mix it up a bit,”
Above right: The
newly regenerated she tells me. “It was kind of freeing.
Tenth Doctor emerges I could be madder. Weirder, you know?
from the TARDIS I like a challenge.”
in The Christmas Is reuniting with David for Big Finish
Invasion (2005). as much fun as it was on the 50th?
“Oh, it is. You always feel like
there’s going to be a moment of, like,
awkwardness, but there never is. It’s like
when you hang out with an old friend
who you haven’t seen for years, and then
loads of stuff has happened between you,
but it’s sort of just like you’re immediately
there again. I love it.”
I
n nine days’ time, Billie will appear
at Motor City Comic Con, in
Michigan. The opening question
of her on-stage Q&A will be about
“It was cool to come back and mix reprising Rose for Big Finish. “I thought
it up a bit. It was kind of freeing. it was going to be awkward,” she’ll tell the
crowd, “but actually all of us just sort of
I could be madder. Weirder, you slipped straight back into it… and it was
know? I like a challenge.” beautiful to be part of. My son came to
one, actually, to one of the recordings,

“We didn’t even imagine a world
where the Doctor was female.”
I
n January, BBC News asked character was sort of the beginning She’ll nail it, though. I know she’s a
Billie if it’s time for a female of that. You know, she wasn’t the wonderful actress and, above all else,
Doctor at last. assistant who sort of looked pretty she’s a beautiful human being… It’s
“I think it probably is, and aided the Doctor; this was a going to be really good for young
actually,” she said. “Given the spirit person who was judged fairly and girls to have a really smart, positive
of the world at the moment, I think it equally… That felt like the beginning role model, and I think it’s going to
would be timely.” of that movement, so we didn’t even bring a new energy to the show, that
At Motor City Comic Con in imagine a world where the Doctor I actually think is needed… It’s not
Michigan, in May, a couple of was female… That just shows you going to be traditional. It’s going to
months before the Jodie Whittaker how much, in that space of time, the be modern and progressive… The
announcement, Billie elaborated: world has changed, quite rightly.” boys have done a sterling job, but
“Gender equality is a massive topic of “I really am so happy for Jodie,” I think it would be a bit of a snub
conversation in a way that it wasn’t Billie added at Fan Expo in Toronto, in now if they didn’t involve a girl in
when we relaunched Doctor Who. My September. “It’s such an intense task. that role.”
because he was sick and I didn’t have any current Doctor (“I think Peter [Capaldi] “I know,” she laughs, “I’ll force them Above: The Doctor
childcare… and it was so cool to be doing is a brilliant actor. I’m a big fan of his. into it. No, they find it’s quite scary, for (Christopher
Eccleston) and Rose
that at a point in my life where I’ve now I’d love to work with him,” she says), she some reason – the fact that I’m being
make it to Floor 500
got an eight-year-old child. The memory hasn’t seen him in Doctor Who yet. “I’m chased around. They find it hard to in The Long Game
of Rose is just so long ago, when life was not in, really. We don’t watch TV in the disassociate me from Rose. They’re not (2005).
totally different.” way we used to. And because my quite able to separate the two. Winston, Left: On stage at the
Here in studio, Winston is kids are not totally, 100 per he’s very literal, so he’s not really into Motor City Comic Con
perched on a stool in Billie’s cent into it – yet – there’s monsters and he gets quite scared. I was in Michigan earlier
recording booth, watching little reason for me to like, ‘Was that scary? The Daleks and this year.
adoringly as his mum catch up, really.” the Cybermen? They’re not scary! I just Below left:
saves the world from the So she won’t be find them really irritating.’ But they feel A marauding warthog
Zaross. “Oh bless him, he’s playing these audio threatened by it, I think. So I show them from Infamy of the
Zaross.
so good,” says Beth Lilly, adventures to her sons? my music videos instead.”
voicing an alien Heyzeeri “I have tried to get Does that preserve her ‘cool mum’ Below: Rose confronts
the Cult of Skaro in
(described in the script as them into Doctor Who,” she status? Doomsday (2006).
‘vaguely humanoid’). swears, “but…” “Well, no. But the kids in their class
It’s 15 May, and Billie and They must have seen some of know who I am, and I enjoy that. I leave
David are back in studio, this time at The Billie’s TV episodes, though? Couldn’t she the school, going, ‘See, I told you! I told
Moat in Ladbroke Grove, West London, sit them down and insist they watch? you I was in Doctor Who!’”
Big Finish’s home from home since the
mid-aughts. Today they’re recording
Infamy of the Zaross, a meditation on
modern celebrity that asks, how far
would you go to become famous? At
what human cost? And it’s the first Doctor
Who story to be set in Norwich. Is that
a heavily armed alien warthog walking
down Chapel Field North?
“First things first,” says the Doctor,
“we need to see what’s going on
globally. I mean, Norwich is lovely, but
it’s a soft target.”
“Yeah, can’t imagine the Zaross will
have it this easy in London,” says Rose.
“That reminds me of Doctor
Who so much, that
line,” laughs Billie,
then she gives
Winston a hug. (“Me
and Winston, sometimes
we run lines together,”
Billie tells me
afterwards. “Having
him in studio
today, to see this,
has been sort
of lovely.”)
Although Billie
digs the actor
playing the
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THE INTERVIEW
Mum’s the Word Jackie Tyler joins her daughter Rose and the Tenth
Doctor in Big Finish’s audio drama Infamy of the Zaross,
part of The Tenth Doctor Adventures. We caught up
with Camille Coduri on the day she was reunited with
her old friends David Tennant and Billie Piper…
I
n a West London recording
“Honestly, what’s she studio, Jackie Tyler is leaving
an answerphone message
think I’m gonna do, for her daughter, Rose. “It’s
your mum. Sorry to call.
nut a Martian?” I know you’re busy fighting
evil lobsters or something,
Jackie Tyler, Infamy of the Zaross but when you get this, if you could pop
round to Marge’s in Norwich – you know,
Karen’s mum – I’d really appreciate that.
We’ve sort of been invaded. All right?
Great. Love you. Speak soon. Bye.”
Moments later (handy bit of kit, a time
machine), in strolls the Doctor (“Hello
Jackie!”) and Rose. “Just one thing’s
troubling me slightly,” pipes up Nicholas
Briggs, who’s directing. “After the Doctor
says, ‘Hello Jackie,’ she doesn’t say
anything. She seems oddly silent in that
moment, to me.”
David Tennant knows why. “It’s
because I’m stopping her mouth with
a large snog!” (He isn’t.)
“Do you want that?” asks
Camille, laughing. In case not
(boo!), she offers an alternative:
“How about, ‘Hello trouble’…?”
“That’d be good,” says Nick.
“Put that in.”
This is Infamy of the Zaross, the
opening instalment of The Tenth
Doctor Adventures’ sophomore
trilogy. Earlier this year,
Camille played Jackie

in two Big Finish audio dramas: Retail Opposite page:
Therapy (part of May’s The Ninth Doctor David Tennant and
Chronicles audiobook) and Wednesdays for Camille Coduri are
reunited for The Tenth
Beginners (part of June’s The Lives of Captain
Doctor Adventures:
Jack anthology). Volume Two.
But this is the big one. Reunited with Photo © Tony Whitmore.
David Tennant and Billie Piper at last. Left: Christmas at
“Isn’t it great?” enthuses Camille. “But the Tylers’ – Rose
David and Billie, they look exactly the (Billie Piper), Mickey
same! You look at David and he just (Noel Clarke) and
doesn’t look old. Neither does Billie – my Jackie (Camille) in The
Christmas Invasion
God. Whereas I look like Danny La Rue.”
(2005).
Nonsense. Camille hasn’t aged a day
Below left: Rose and
since she first stepped onto the Doctor Who Jackie in The End of
set, in 2004. Time Part Two (2010).
“No, I definitely have. I look like a nana. Bottom left to right:
It’s Nana Tyler now,” she says. Peter Cushing in
Star Wars and Guy
C
amille’s last Henry in Rogue One,
appearance in Bonnie Langford
and Sylvester McCoy
TV’s Doctor Who
in Delta and the
was a brief cameo, Bannermen, Tom
alongside Billie, in 2010’s
The End of Time Part Two, so “ People always say, Baker and silhouettes
of three Doctors who
there will be kids listening to ‘We loved the mum. have yet to work with
Big Finish.
Infamy of the Zaross who will
be meeting Jackie Tyler for
It’s not the same any
the first time. How would she more. We want the
describe Jackie to a whole
new audience?
family back.’”
“Gobby. Annoying. But
caring. Yeah, those are my three. But me from 2010-17]. I love Steven. I always children, because they’ve got into the
as Camille, hopefully I’m not annoying – did. Whenever I saw him at dos before he box sets, and they’re seeing that era with
as annoying! – as Jackie.” became the big new thing, when he took David and Billie, and obviously Chris
Jackie was created by Russell T Davies, over from Russell, I’d always go, ‘Ooh, [Eccleston]. Everybody does say, the
who was the showrunner of Doctor Who hello!’ He’s extraordinary. Like Russell, people I meet, that they love that family
from 2005 to 2010, and remains one of he’s kind and daft. That’s Jackie too.” [the Tylers]. They always say, ‘We loved
his most celebrated characters. “Well, And Jackie Tyler still means so much to the mum. It’s not the same any more.
Russell, I think, is so human,” says so many people. We want the family back.’ And I’m
Camille, “and he loves women. The same “Do you think so? I would really hope hugely proud to be a part of that. It’s
is true of Steven Moffat [the showrunner so. They come up to me now, these young a life-changing thing.”
THINGS WE LEARNED IN STUDIO

SYLV! On a break from recording “You actually
? ? ?
Cold Vengeance in Studio One, David lost four inches?!”
Tennant and Billie Piper bump into their exclaims David.
1980s predecessors in The Soundhouse “It seems so,”
reception: Sylvester McCoy and Bonnie says Sylv, “because
Langford, who played the Seventh I used to be that
Doctor and his companion Mel. They’ve height, and now I’m not. I don’t know one day it will happen, but sometimes
MOFF! George Asprey (who plays Scar been recording The Silurian Candidate where the inches have gone. I think it’s it can take a few years to secure talent.
in Disney’s The Lion King in the West End) (released by Big Finish in September) in because, when I had my hips done, they Remember it took 13 years
portrays the Zaross leader opposite Guy Studio Four. didn’t have any long enough. They’ve for us to get Tom
Henry’s Ikron, an alien Heyzeeri. This isn’t Sylvester takes the opportunity to maimed me.” Baker! But once
Guy’s first brush with science-fiction. tell us all about his new hips. “I’ve had “Gosh,” says Billie. they’re through the
He played Grand Moff Tarkin in 2016 two of them,” he says, proudly. “They’ve doors, hopefully they
blockbuster Rogue One, with his shrunk me! I was five foot six before. WELL FED! When will Big have a really fantastic
motion-capture and voice work – and I’m now five foot two.” Finish be securing the services time, do great work,
some VFX wizardry – helping to resurrect of Messrs Eccleston, Smith, and have a lot of laughs,
the character played by the late Peter Capaldi? “Certainly approaches and are well fed. Our
Cushing in 1977’s Star Wars. So we’ve to agents have been ethos is that actors
Scar versus Tarkin! Battle of the villains. made,” senior must enjoy the
“Could I call the leader ‘darling’?” asks producer David experience, so
Guy. “‘You know, darling…’“ Richardson hopefully the
“I quite like that,” laughs Nick. reveals. lure will prove
“Yeah, that’s fun. He suddenly goes all “Obviously irresistible,
showbiz about it.” I hope that eventually!”
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JACKIE TYLER: ACTION HERO

I
t is a truth universally “Funny mums. We love a funny “And that’s what I had to write. Not
acknowledged that Jackie mum,” enthused Billie at Kansas least because, when you’ve got,
Tyler is TV’s best mum. City’s Planet Comicon, in in Camille, a terrific actor
“I know how much Jackie April. But Jackie isn’t just who can deliver that
means to the fanbase,” says John a ‘funny mum’, is she? beautiful balancing
Dorney, who scripted Infamy of the There’s a real pathos act, why wouldn’t you
Zaross, “and the honour it is to write there too. want to use her to the
her, so I was delighted. In many ways “Going below the fullness of her abilities?
the character’s more of our avatar surface, beyond ‘funny The funny stuff is funnier
in the story than Rose. I particularly mum’, and making her the because Jackie is a real,
enjoyed putting her into situations soul and heart of those first sweet, human person, and the
she never got to experience in the two years is exactly dramatic stuff is more emotionally
TV show. She gets to go on a why people affecting because the humour has
spaceship at last and be a bit love Jackie,” warmed her to us. The more depth
of an action hero!” concurs John. she has, the better everything is.”
A
Above inset: Writer fter lunch (“It’s like Club Med!” your mum,” says Camille, giving her
John Dorney.
gasps Camille, surveying the a squeeze.
Above right: Jackie
expansive buffet), David “My other mum!” smiles Billie.
Tyler, armed and
dangerous in records his last few scenes, then Touchingly, Billie has had so much fun
Journey’s End (2008). he’s off. “It’s been so nice to see you,” he that she’s eager to come back and record
tells Camille. more with Big Finish. “I’d love to do
“I love you,” she replies. more,” she says. “Maybe a lot more.” And
“Quite right too,” I wish that would mean… more Jackie Tyler?
he’d said. (He didn’t.) “And In a quieter moment, DWM asks
I suppose, if it’s my last chance Camille whether she’d be up for that. Of
to say it, Jackie Tyler…” course she would!
(Nope. He’s gone.) “It’s just magical,” she says. “Just
Soon it’s time for straight away, there was a glint in the eyes.
Billie to head off too. Me, Billie, David, we were all in the booths
“Send my love to before we started, and I was like, ‘YEAH!!!’
– the fist in the air – and, ‘Isn’t this great?
Isn’t this bonkers?’ And us three agreeing.
It’s amazeballs. Just lovely.
“Call it zeitgeist, call it whatever it was
back then, but it did capture the nation
all those years ago. David captured the
nation, particularly with Billie, and
to be a part of that club… oh, it’s
beautiful! And once you’re in the Who
club, you’re in for life. And the fans, it’s
not them and us; it’s we. It’s something you
can just go back to immediately, a bit like
time-lapse, of course, and Time Lords. So
I guess it does feel like it was 13 minutes
ago, not 13 years. It’s a strange thing,” she
says, “but it’s beautiful.”
“ Me, Billie, David, The Tenth Doctor Adventures: Volume Two is

released in November. www.bigfinish.com
we were all in the
booths before we
started, and I was
like, ‘YEAH!!!’ – the
fist in the air – and,
‘Isn’t this great?’”
Right: With Big Finish

producer Nick Briggs.
Photo © Tony Whitmore.
Far right: Sneaking

aboard the TARDIS in
Army of Ghosts (2006).

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THE INTERVIEW MATT LUCAS

N IS FOR NARDOLE
While he was busy playing Nardole in the 2017 series of
Doctor Who, Matt Lucas was also writing his autobiography...
INTERVIEW BY TOM SPILSBURY
M
att Lucas has make-up. That’s 7.30, on set, rehearsing. about food, you know?
certainly had a lot But every day I thought I was so lucky I just felt that was the key to
on the go recently. that someone’s paying me to write about unlock the door to writing
This time last my life. And also, I’m the luckiest man in the book, really.
year, he was in the the world to be an assistant in Doctor Who. I just didn’t want to write
middle of recording So, to be honest with you, even though I a book that started, ‘I was
a full series of Doctor was tired, I was never fed up.” born in 1974…’”
Who, reprising his role as Nardole – the With such a successful career, it was Naturally enough, there
Doctor’s… companion? Assistant? Valet? only a matter of time before a Matt Lucas are 26 chapters to Matt’s
Carer? None of these seem to truly autobiography was going to land on our autobiography, each one
cover it. But whatever words you find shelves (or screens, if you’re buying the starting with a different
to describe ‘Nardy’, Matt was spending Kindle edition). “I’d been approached a letter of the alphabet. The
his days helping the Doctor (Peter few times over the years, but I’d always first chapter is ‘Accrington
Capaldi) and Bill Potts (Pearl Mackie) resisted it,” he says. “But then I kind of Stanley’, and deals with Matt’s casting in
Above: Matt Lucas’
to save the universe from meddling came up with an idea for a book. Which a school play at the age of 12. The second autobiography Little
Monks, Mondasian Cybermen, Missy was to do an autobiography as an A-Z. So chapter, ‘Baldy!’, relates how all of Matt’s Me: My Life from
and the Master, while in the evening he it’s an autobiography, but it’s not strictly hair fell out in the summer A-Z is published
was working just as hard, writing his by Canongate
chronological. That way I could be a bit of 1980, when he was just six years old.
this month.
autobiography. more selective about what I wanted to The shortest chapter is ‘Xenophobia’, in
Below: Dr Sim
The result is Little Me: My Life from A-Z, write about, and focus disproportionately which Matt tells us in just 25 words that (Aleksandar
published by Canongate this month. It on ridiculous things – like the chapter he isn’t xenophobic. Jovanovic) discovers
covers his recent stint in the TARDIS, Doctor Who comes not under D, but some intruders at
of course, but also details Matt’s rise to T, for ‘TARDIS’. Matt was similarly Harmony Shoal
fame on the comedy circuit in the 1990s “I’m the luckiest man creative with one of the catchphrases
– Lucy Fletcher
(Charity Wakefield),
and his incredible success with David in the world to be an from Shooting Stars, the BBC Two show the Doctor (Peter
Walliams in BBC One’s Little Britain.
“I didn’t have a lot of free time,” says
assistant in Doctor that brought him television fame. “Yeah,
‘What are the Scores, George Dawes?’
Capaldi) and Nardole
(Matt Lucas) – in The
Matt, admitting that the last year has Who. So, to be honest comes under W rather than G. So I had
Return of Doctor
Mysterio (2016).
been unusually busy. “I never even made
it to the Doctor Who Experience, to my
with you, even time to figure that out as I went along.
I worked really hard on it. I’m pleased
great disappointment. When I first signed though I was tired, with how it’s come out.” Matt pauses
up to do [the 2017 series of ] Doctor Who, I was never fed up.” after reflecting on some of the book’s
I originally thought I was just doing revelations about his private life. “I think
another three episodes. Then it kind of
grew and grew and grew, until I ended
up doing every one. When I did the book
deal, I thought, ‘Oh, I’ll probably have
a little bit of spare time on my hands,’
because Nardole is just in it a bit here
and there. But I actually ended up being
in it far more than I anticipated. So
consequently, my life was: learning lines,
saying lines, writing book. Those three
things. I’d get up at six in the morning, go
to the set, and then I’d get back at 7.30 in
the evening. I’d learn my lines, write for a
couple more hours, and then go straight
to bed.”
A series of Doctor Who is recorded over
a period of nine months or so, and the
schedule is intense. “They are long days,”
Matt confirms. “And you only get half an
hour for lunch! You start work at 7.30 –
and that’s already in costume and
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Above: Peter Capaldi I might’ve over-shared... But what the hell,

(as the Doctor) it’s done now.”
and Matt Lucas (as
Nardole) prepare to
The book’s scattergun approach
record a scene for cleverly allowed Matt the freedom to pick
The Return of Doctor and choose what he wanted – or didn’t
Mysterio. want – to write about. “I’m focusing on is just waiting to get to, you know, the that was ghost-written. I wrote it. I’m too
Above right: Matt the things that had a big impact on my good bits! much of a control freak for anyone else to
snaps a quick selfie life. Because usually, if you’re a famous “But there’s a good deal of stuff that do it! But also, I am a writer, after all. The
with co-stars Peter
and Michelle Gomez actor, the first half of an autobiography isn’t in there,” he continues. “I think there idea that anyone else would write it for me
(as Missy) while are things that are not in there that didn’t make any sense.”
on location for the perhaps would affect other However, writing an
recording of Extremis people. You know, friends autobiography is a different
(2017).
and family. So I left things thing altogether to writing
Far right:
Nardole braves out, just as everybody comedy scripts. “Yes,”
the snow to look has to leave things out he acknowledges. “I’ve
for a surgeon of their autobiography. never written a book
in The Husbands I mean, you have to, for before. I mean, mine and
of River Song.
space, but tonally there David’s scripts have been
Below: Nardole
are things that I didn’t published, but I’ve never
finds some of
baby Jennifer’s want to discuss… or to sat down and written a
toys to play with discuss at this time. book before. It was a new
in The Return of “It’s not for me to say discipline. I’d love to write
Doctor Mysterio.
whether it’s a good book another book. It was good, in
or not, but I do think it’s an honest some ways, to upload a lot of stuff out
book. I do say, ‘Everything in this book is of my head, and clear some space. Once
true, but not everything is in this book.’ you get older, and you experience more,
But I think, as a consequence, it is quite your head sort of fills up. And I wanted
raw. My mum read it and my brother read to create some room in there. I’m pleased
it. Even my closest friend read it… well, he that I’ve cleared a load of stuff out of my
read half of it. But they all said the same head by writing it down. Because the thing
thing: ‘I didn’t know this about you.’ is, I don’t have to remember any of that
So even my friends and family anymore! I can happily forget it now, as it’s
were surprised when they read all written down in a book.”
it. It’s a very personal and
D
honest book, and I hope uring the process of writing the
people appreciate that. It’s book and having to recall lots
not something of facts and dates, Matt reveals
that Google was one of his
reference points. “Because of the success
of Little Britain, a lot of stuff is actually
online,” he says. “But this book is about
my personal memories, so I think some
of that stuff isn’t as important here.”
And perhaps recalling dates isn’t
as crucial for an autobiography
which doesn’t document life events
in chronological order… “That’s right.
Although the story with David [Walliams]
is told chronologically. I think it would
have been strange to do Little Britain
[2003-07] and then do Rock Profile [1999-
2000]. So that’s told chronologically, but
there are other things that appear in the
midst of it.”

An autobiography which jumps about returning to Doctor Who in a more
in time seems fitting for an actor who has regular capacity, after he had asked
recently been a Doctor Who companion. showrunner Steven Moffat if Nardole
Chapter 20 is all about playing Nardole could make a comeback.
but, as Matt writes, ‘it is also a “When it was announced I was
chapter about grief.’ Matt’s returning to the show, people
feelings about Doctor Who didn’t even remember me
are very much tied up being in the Christmas
with Kevin McGee, with Special!” he chuckles,
whom Matt entered ruefully. “It was just
into a civil partnership a little comic turn
in 2006. Sadly, the that was kind of fun,
union lasted less than but something that
two years and Kevin died you might not
in 2009. Kevin had been even remember.”
a massive Doctor Who fan, The Husbands of River
and the couple even owned an Song was a fairly light-hearted wasn’t as heightened or as broad as he Left: Nardole pilots
original TARDIS prop from the episode – both to watch as a viewer had been in The Husbands of River Song. the Doctor’s TARDIS
2005 and 2006 series. and, according to Matt, to appear in. By then I was a bit more comfortable with dressed in robes
from twelfth-century
As Matt explains, after Kevin’s death “When you’re making the Christmas what I was doing.” Constantinople,
a mere mention of the show would trigger Special you muck about more! I mean, And given that Bill Potts wouldn’t in The Return of
sad thoughts. I avoided even watching you muck about more on camera. I don’t arrive until The Pilot... “I’m the companion Doctor Mysterio.
it,” he says. “I watched it religiously as mean off camera. Off camera you just do in that episode, yeah!” Above: Guarding
a kid and I loved it. But the last time I’d the same. Also they’re longer, so there’s We wonder if Nardole would actually the vault in the
closing moments
watched it I’d been with Kevin. So my more time for a bit of comedy business.” think of himself as the Doctor’s of Thin Ice (2017).
relationship with Doctor Who was… on Matt’s second appearance in the show ‘companion’. “Well, I don’t know. If we’re
Below: The Doctor
hold. Obviously I’ve gone back since then was also a Christmas episode, although going into semantics, apparently Nardole and Nardole
by the time of 2016’s The Return of Doctor is an assistant and Bill is a companion. in The Husbands
Mysterio he had already made four But I would say that Nardole is the of River Song.
“When it was episodes of the subsequent 2017 series. companion in that episode.”
announced I was “I wasn’t going to be in The Return of Presumably The Return of Doctor
Doctor Mysterio,” he reveals. “And then
returning to the at the last minute… well, not the last
Mysterio is set before the Doctor and
Nardole are guarding the vault at the
show, people didn’t minute… but I think about three weeks university, so they’re just knocking around
even remember beforehand, they said, ‘Would you be
free?’ So I said, ‘Yeah, all right.’ What was
the universe together, having fun. “Well,
you might think so,” cautions Matt, “and
me being in the good about that is that the viewers started yet, the vault stuff was supposed to be for
Christmas Special!” to feel a bit differently about Nardole. a thousand years, wasn’t it?”
I think it was in my favour as a performer Fans will also remember that there was
that I had already shot four episodes a flashback to the Doctor and Nardole
and watched some Matt Smith. I thought of the series by then. I had already first encountering the vault in Extremis,
he was brilliant. And I watched some of established in my head that Nardole which chronologically must be set before
the David Tennant stuff that I hadn’t seen.
And of course I watched Peter Capaldi.
C IS FOR CAPALDI
“One of the great loves of my life is know, George Formby, Norman
football, and your relationship with Wisdom and all that. Much more
that changes as well,” Matt continues. than any of my friends were. And
“
I
“Sometimes there just isn’t room for it, really enjoyed working as children. And it’s quite rare to I loved old music too. Peter’s the
and other times it becomes the focus with Peter on The find someone who you can share same. He’s also someone who’s
of your day. I had not pursued being in Husbands of River those references with. Because fascinated by the past. We had
Doctor Who, but I accepted the job to Song,” says Matt, when I was a kid – when I was 12, so much fun on that Christmas
make myself feel a bit better after thinking back to his first episode 13, 14 – I was fascinated by really Special, just swapping anecdotes
I didn’t get another role. I thought, of Doctor Who. “I’m such a big fan old black-and-white comedies. You and stories.”
‘Oh well, it will make me feel a bit better of Peter Capaldi. We had a laugh,
to do five minutes in the Doctor Who as well. He’s a bit like me, in that
Christmas Special.’ we both remember things that
“Do you know what? I actually don’t happened before we were born.
think I even read the script!” he says, Now I don’t mean that in a weird
laughing. “That’s really rare for me. I just way. I don’t mean we existed
thought, ‘Yeah, maybe the time is right before. But our frames of reference
to do this. And it would be good to do are for people who are probably 50
something, because I just worked really years older than us, and yet we still
hard in an audition and didn’t get it, and have them. We have memories of
I’ll feel more positive about myself if seeing old-time variety acts on TV,
I accept this job.’ So it was just that and stuff like that. Our frames of
really. This will just be a couple of days reference are from the 1930s, 40s,
of my life. I didn’t give it too much 50s… more so than now. So we just
more thought.” had a laugh, I think, remembering
Of course, a few months later, it old comics we’d seen on television
was announced that Matt would be
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G IS FOR GAY
to be blasé about it. “It’s easy to see how things are now
Their families reacted and forget that they were ever any
in a completely low- different. And it’s very dangerous
T
he seventh chapter of key, supportive way with positive to do that, I think. Since the 50th
Matt’s autobiography indifference, I would say. And it anniversary of the decriminalisation
is simply titled ‘Gay’. was just not a big deal for them or of homosexuality in Britain, there
It’s a section that Matt their families. For some people, it’s have been some testimonies
anticipates “some people will identify obviously a lot better than it was. But from people who remember that
with more than others” as he writes in many parts of the world, and still happening. But it’s also important
about coming to terms with his in many parts of the UK, people still for people who maybe weren’t alive
own sexuality. really struggle with it.” when that happened, but
“I think that being gay – for some In this part of the book, Matt who still suffered. Who gives you more options. It’s not that it’s
people – still requires a lot of soul- ponders whether ‘in maybe still have their own necessarily better or funnier, it might just
searching, a lot of trepidation, and 25 years’ time, the notion of struggles. Their stories be a bit quicker. And sometimes that helps.”
a lot of fear and anxiety,” he says. dedicating an entire chapter are also worthwhile. One of Matt’s unscripted additions was
“Because they’re really worried – of an autobiography to being They’re also relevant.” Nardole’s remark, “You can be very silly
sometimes rightly – about how their gay might seem – in Britain, sometimes”, to the Doctor in The Pilot.
parents and families might react. How at least – rather quaint.’ It’s a comment that casts Nardole as the
their friends might react. But then I’ve “It was important for straight man of the duo. “That’s right,
also met other people – obviously me to document how and it’s true,” says Matt. “The Doctor can
a good deal younger than myself – for things have be silly. I think it just lends a bit more
whom coming out was absolutely changed,” texture to their relationship. I’m glad
nothing for them. They were able he says. they kept that one in. Nothing depends
on it, you know? It’s just slipped in. Also,
it follows the Doctor’s line about lemon
Above left: A selfie The Return of Doctor Mysterio, because the decisions about your character. In reality, drops. He is being really silly. It also tells
of Matt, taken Doctor hasn’t seen Nardole since he’d what makes the character is a combination us that Nardole has been with this man
during the recording
of The Return of left the planet Darillium… “Well, exactly! of the writing and the performance. So for a long time. It’s a fair observation.”
Doctor Mysterio. So, er, I don’t know. You’d have to ask Mr I think what I tended to do was improvise
S
Above right: Nardole Moffat. Because I’m not very clever, and a bit and generally trust the process. taying on this subject, when
confronts the blind I get a bit befuddled by it all. As does I could watch an episode, and sometimes we spoke to Matt in issue 507
Doctor in the closing Nardole, I suspect. I really studied it, none of my improvisations were in, and he said he was checking with
moments of Oxygen
(2017). but I do sometimes marvel at everyone sometimes they were all in. Improvising is people that he wasn’t being too
else’s ability to understand all that. It’s really about offering some more options silly. On reflection, was that paranoia?
Below: Tasker (Justin
Salinger) and Abby not my strong point.” to the editor and the director. To me, it’s “No, it wasn’t paranoia. I just wanted to
(Mimi Ndiweni) take It has to be said that Nardole is one of not about coming in and going, ‘Oh, my honour the show, but at the same time,
aim at the Doctor, the Doctor’s more enigmatic companions. idea is better.’ It’s not coming at it from I did think, ‘They must have cast me for
Nardole and Bill
We know very little about his past, or that point of view. It’s about going, ‘You a reason. You know, I’m not Benedict
(Pearl Mackie) on
board Chasm Forge where he comes from. Matt suggests that could try this or you could try that.’ But it Cumberbatch here! They must be hoping
mining station in “There’s a mystery about what Nardole’s was very, very rare that I would improvise that I can be a bit funny.’ Especially
Oxygen. life was before he met the Doctor. Maybe instead of the script. That isn’t really my having done The Husbands of River Song
even before he met River Song? I think approach. My approach is to offer up some – I assumed they weren’t suddenly going
he’s a little bit of a scoundrel, isn’t he?” alternatives. Because as anyone who’s to make him the straightest and most
Has Matt given any thought to edited or directed will tell you – and I have serious character you’ve ever seen in
Nardole’s back story? “It’s a tricky one,” directed – the thing that’s great is when the show. But at the same time, it’s not
he says, “because in theory you [the actor] you get as much coverage as possible. Christmas Day every day.”
don’t have the authority to make big That’s what you want, because that just The scene at the end of Oxygen, in
which Nardole let rip at the Doctor
for being so irresponsible, proved that
Nardole wasn’t simply around for comic
relief. “I think it’s good writing,” says
Matt of Jamie Mathieson’s script. “And
Peter’s great in that scene. It’s at the end
of a really good episode… and it just
reminds you of the high stakes.”
We think Matt’s being modest – he’s
very good in that scene, too. “Thank you.
I found it hard. It took me a few takes to
get it. I said to Peter, ‘I just feel like what
I’m doing might not feel like Nardole...’
He said, ‘Well, characters have different
shades to them, don’t they? This is a side
to the character we maybe haven’t seen
before.’ That’s the reason it’s brilliant to
work with Peter. He’s also directed a lot.
Sometimes you can ask him for advice
and it’s really helpful.”
The making of that episode involved
a fair amount of wire and stunt work.

“It could be gruelling,” he remembers.
“I got injured at the end of Oxygen. We
then filmed The Eaters of Light, straight
after Oxygen. If you think I’m particularly
funny in that episode, it’s because
I’m completely high on pain-killers.
Absolutely off my head. Otherwise
I could barely walk, because I got an
injury. That’s a little secret for you!”
Nardole’s eventual fate saw him
separated from the Doctor at the end
of The Doctor Falls, not knowing whether
his friend was alive or dead. “It was
dramatic, wasn’t it? It was dramatic
for all the characters. It’s what Doctor Above: Hazran
Who does so well. Leave a load of
cliffhangers, and make you want to
“I’m really grateful, I don’t take (Samantha Spiro) shares
an intimate moment
watch the next episode. I think Steven it for granted. I know we live in with Nardole in The
Doctor Falls (2017).
did a great job, and [director] Rachel
Talalay did a great job as well.”
an age where people are very Inset: Nardole wears
There’s a nice little love story for quick to give an opinion. “ Pictish face markings
in The Eaters of Light
Nardole in the finale, too. “Yeah, there is. (2017).
I think in an earlier draft it was a bit more A positive part of my life, and I’ll always Bottom left: The 2017
pronounced, actually. It was a little bit cherish it. I’m really glad the fans enjoyed TARDIS team – Matt,
Bill and Peter – take a
more two-way. And I said that I felt that it, and the people who watch the show, selfie while on location.
it would take longer for Nardole to fall for because it’s about them, ultimately.”
Hazran [played by Samantha Spiro]. Whether playing Nardole has changed
I thought he would be a bit more resistant anyone’s perceptions of Matt Lucas,
than he was in the first draft. I didn’t feel removing him from the pigeonhole of
he’d just leave the Doctor just because he’d being ‘just’ a comic actor, is not something
met a woman. I felt that he shouldn’t be he likes to dwell on. “I try not to be too
too human. Only his lungs are human.” self-indulgent. It’s not a good way to think
Is that true? “Well, I’m given about yourself. It’s not good to be
to understand that he’s an too proud, or to constantly
alien, with some robot take stock in that way.
replacement parts, and Pride isn’t helpful.
some human lungs. That’s Self-pity isn’t helpful.
my understanding. But There’s a few things
you’d have to ask I try not to encourage
Mr Moffat… in myself. There isn’t
“I’m really grateful,” says a strategy there of
Matt, reflecting on how well going, ‘I will do this,
his series of Doctor Who went because people will
down with fans. “I don’t take it for think this about me.’ You
granted. I know we live in an age where get opportunities in life, and the
people are very quick to give an opinion. opportunity to go back to Doctor
In the case of Nardole, it seemed that Who was an incredible one. And
people warmed to him across the series, I’m really, really glad that I had
which is something I’m grateful for. It a chance to do it. It’s been
was just a really positive experience. a great experience.”
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The co-writer of White “It was a cracking good part,” says
Damaris today. “They had to work it out, Damaris has fond memories of working Above: White Witch of
Witch of Devil’s End, to keep the story in the Doctor Who format
– giving it a science element rather than it
on The Dæmons. Of Roger Delgado, who
played the Master, she recalls, “He was
Devil’s End is included
on this new DVD from
a new DVD sequel to all being really magic. a darling man. I had a small scene with
Koch Media.
Below left: Olive
“I’d always been interested in the him when he was supposed to be the
the 1971 classic The supernatural and witchcraft,” she vicar and he tried to influence me... and
Hawthorne (Damaris
Hayman) reaches for
continues. “As a child I lived in Lancashire, I had to be able to break away. I said that
Dæmons, explains in the shadow of Pendle Hill, and my he’s the Master, he’s Magister, and this
protection from the
Reverend Magister
how the ambitious father’s first wife’s family lived not very
far from us. They had a house which
has a definite meaning: that he has
a certain degree of power in the black arts.
(Roger Delgado) in
Episode One of The
project came about. was built on the site where the Pendle
witches used to meet. When the house
I reasoned that I must have some sort of
a talisman which I could touch which gave
Dæmons (1971).
Below right: Damaris
signs autographs for
FEATURE BY DAVID J HOWE was originally built they included an iron me the strength to withstand him, so
fans during location
cross in it, but Grandfather Hartley said, I had an ankh which I wore all the time. filming at Aldbourne
‘Oh nonsense.’ He took it out and sold it “I also remember vividly when I had in April 1971.
T
to a museum. Things went disastrously to still the winds. They had an aeroplane
here’s something indefinable wrong for the family from that moment propeller to create the special effect – it
about the 1971 Jon Pertwee on. His sons were killed in the war, his was so strong it nearly blew me over, but
adventure The Dæmons, daughter – who was my father’s first wife I managed to stand up and do my stuff.
which pits the Third Doctor, – died young. He lost a leg. Just one thing I remember hearing somebody after
Jo Grant and UNIT against after another.” saying, ‘Oh my gosh, she’s really doing it!’”
the Master and an alien
superpower called Azal. The
heady blend of magic and science which
infuses the story, together with a giant
devil-like adversary and a scampering
stone gargoyle called Bok, occupies
a cherished place in Doctor Who’s history.
Among the characters in the village of
Devil’s End, where the story is set, one
remains particularly memorable – Olive
Hawthorne, the local white witch. As
brought to life by actress Damaris Hayman,
Olive was a feisty and likable character
that audiences found hugely appealing.
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other projects at the time, so my

partner, the novelist Sam Stone,
stepped in to help.
Because Damaris was in her eighties,
we knew any action involving her
would have to be limited. So in the new
production Olive recounts stories of her
past as the white witch of Devil’s End in
a ‘talking head’ drama. With a narrative
from Damaris, the visuals augment and
supported the spoken words.
“It’s always challenging to write for
someone else’s universe,” says Sam.
“Capturing Olive’s voice for the screenplay
was quite difficult. Writing from a first-
person viewpoint, and still managing to
‘show’ a story can be tricky, but I think
all of the writers involved showed a great
deal of skill in tackling this.”
Sam and I selected the authors we
wanted to work with. Our primary
concern was that they had an affinity
with the character; that they understood
something of what being a white witch
might actually mean. We also wanted to
find people who could bring something
new and believable to the character.
“We came up with

the idea of creating
a production around
Olive Hawthorne.
Damaris was totally
behind the concept
from the start.”
Keith Barnfather
D
Above: Damaris as amaris wasn’t the only one to A chance meeting at a convention in “I had several challenges here,” says Sam.
Olive Hawthorne, find The Dæmons fascinating. 2011 brought Keith and Damaris together, “Probably the hardest was not to be
pictured during the
Back in the late 1990s, Reeltime and Keith recorded an interview with her over-wordy. It took several brutal edits
original recording
sessions for White Pictures’ producer Keith for his Myth Makers interview series. before I arrived at something which worked.
Witch of Devil’s End Barnfather arranged with the story’s “We came away from the recording I had to restrain my natural tendency to
in 2012. copyright owners, writers Barry Letts thinking she was amazing,” he says. “She bring in elaborate details, settings and
Photo © Ian Fraser.
and Robert Sloman (who jointly penned also really wanted to do more acting characters that would have just blown any
Top centre: Cover The Dæmons under the nom-de-plume Guy and performing, so my business partner budget that the production had.”
artwork for the Leopold), to use their characters in other Anastasia [Stylianou] and I started to With the basic approach in place,
2004 release Dæmos dramatic presentations. Thus the 2004 think about how we could help her with writers Suzanne J Barbieri, Jan Edwards,
Rising. drama Dæmos Rising was born. that. We came up with the idea of creating Debbie Bennett, Raven Dane and I started
Top right: Amanda
Following the release of Dæmos Rising, a production around Olive Hawthorne. work on our stories.
Dore as Melissa Fenn Keith held off on developing any new Damaris was totally behind the concept “I took inspiration from some interviews
in The Poppet. productions based on The Dæmons from the start.” with Damaris,” explains Suzanne,
while he and his production company Having been the writer of Dæmos Rising, “particularly her friendship with comedian
concentrated on making Greek-language Keith asked me to come up with a script Tony Hancock which was based around
documentaries. for Damaris’ character. I was busy on their shared love of literature and

philosophy. It may seem a strange choice the other writer didn’t mind and so my pass on her knowledge. I had my own Above left: Visual
of inspiration, but it felt relevant to the story became his story.” brush with mortality last year with a heart effects shots from
“That’s true,” agrees Jan. “Knowing White Witch of
themes of an intense, platonic, intellectual attack and this really brought home the
Devil’s End.
love between a man and a woman; and that what other people had added to the mix fragility of our existence.
Above centre: Alastair
of people being very different beneath the made for some interesting twists in my “I absolutely loved writing for Olive,”
Greener as Victor.
surface of their public persona. I specifically own narrative. For example Olive’s cat, she continues. “I adored her from The Photo © Ian Fraser.
chose to write this story because of the Rhadamanthus, was a by-product of Daemons; in fact she was an early role
Above right: Naomi
challenge of the subject. I’m not a particular some brainstorming and cropped up in model for me for the practising pagan Sachs as the Gypsy
vampire fan, so the challenge was to create several places in the completed script as witch I am now. I loved how she stood Witch. Photo © Ian Fraser.
a vampire who was interesting to me, and both a character in his own right and an up to the patronising Doctor, a ‘man of Below left: Jim
conflicted about himself, rather than go interesting sub plot.” science’ with no patience for what he Conway as Peter
for the stereotypical ‘sexy killer’.” “My guilty secret is faeries,” says Debbie. perceived as superstition. Her role as the Thomson in the
“The subject of poppets is a fascinating “Not the cute little winged fairies that brave and devoted protector of the village Dæmos Returns
one,” says Jan, describing one of the live at the bottom of the garden, but the was fascinating, and a great inspiration episode of White
Witch of Devil’s End.
features of her instalment. “Poppets crop other faery realm, the Sidhe, the capricious for my storytelling.” Photo © Robin Prichard.
up as voodoo dolls in much popular Tuatha Dé Danann, who will steal your soul As for my own contribution to the
Below right: Linzi
literature, but there’s a great deal more to if you break their laws. I love them, and if screenplay, I wanted to play with the Gold’s Heroines
them than something to stick pins in.” there’s chance to weave them into a fantasy aftermath of The Dæmons. I’d always of Future Past was
“I cheated,” smiles Debbie Bennett. story then I will. This was just perfect.” wondered what the villagers made of the released in 2016.
“I read another contributor’s script For Raven Dane, there was a different fact that their church had been blown up
idea and decided to steal one of the inspiration: “Olive’s natural fears of her and their May Day celebrations invaded
minor characters as I felt he had a lot of increasing age and vulnerability, of leaving by the army… plus I felt there were other
backstory I could write about. Fortunately the village unprotected with no heir to unfinished threads.
MUSICAL DREAM another. I was a priestess and I had

to sacrifice my mortal body to marry
W
hen Keith a connection; that the same feelings my god and ensure our victory. To
Barnfather heard drove them both. I think they’re very do this we had to gain control of
Heroines of Future esoteric and special. They have the a specific city which had a portal to
Past, the début same sort of soul. the celestial plain. I remember he
album from Linzi Gold, he was “The song was based on a dream was gold and white, and his face was
particularly taken with one track. I had about two opposing gods like a ram’s skull. It was really trippy.
“Strange Beauty just stood out for pitting their kingdoms against one “Everything I write has to have
me,” he recalls. “As I listened, a story on some level,” she continues.
I realised that it was absolutely “It starts out as an emotion I put
perfect for White Witch of Devil’s into images and then words. A lot
End. We were developing the of my songs are inspired by fairy
production as a six-part series, and tales and stories, and the way they
I wondered if I could use Linzi’s make me feel. But some come from
music on the end of each episode.” dreams and emotions.”
Keith got in touch with Linzi, and As well as using the track on the
she readily agreed. “I thought Keith film, Keith also worked with Linzi
coming to me about using the song to create a music video for the song.
was amazing,” she says. “That his This is included among the extras
production and my song had on the box set.
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“The first story is

something that actually
happened. I really
did have horrors and
nightmares and things
as a child.” Damaris Hayman
Above left: Recording Raven sums up the process: “At first, that to stop the nightmares I should take of shoots to do this. Over two months we
one of Damaris’ I found it daunting, knowing there were my reins – in those days small children filmed at Aldbourne itself [the Wiltshire
linking sequences on other writers with very different styles and had reins which they wore when they village that had been the location for
location in Aldbourne.
concepts working on other sections of could first walk – and to hook them above The Dæmons], a crypt, a barn and various
the script. Working with the other writers my bed and go to sleep holding them. It other places to obtain the visuals that
Above right: John
Levene, Richard
became a pleasure; we all discussed things worked! I would dream that I was riding were needed.”
Franklin, Nicholas with each other and Sam did an awesome over the hills with my teddy bear.” Keith also realised that they had to
Courtney and Jon job with our morale and keeping us all on split the drama into individual episodes.
C
Pertwee in Aldbourne track. The whole process was an enjoyable ommitments to broadcast work “You can’t easily edit a ‘talking head’ as
for Reeltime Pictures’ and rewarding experience.” meant that the project had to you would lose parts of the stories, so
Return to Devil’s End.
Keith asked writer Matt Fitton to take a back seat until 2015, when the development of the final drama as
Photo © Austen
Atkinson-Broadbelt. fine-tune some of the elements, and the a new deal with Koch Media six individual episodes was a creative
whole script was recorded by Damaris resulted in many of Reeltime Pictures’ idea which has really worked to the
Below: The cover of
Telos’ novelisation
over the space of a week – one story a day back catalogue of Doctor Who-related discs production’s benefit.
evokes the classic – in November 2012. being released through the high street and “Another production technique that we
style of Target “It was great fun,” she remembers. “The online. Koch wanted more, so the White decided upon as the project progressed
illustrator Chris very first story is something that actually Witch project was given new impetus. was to shoot all the dramatic cutaways
Achilleos. happened. I really did have horrors and Keith and Anastasia set about capturing from Olive’s point of view,” he says. “This
nightmares and things as a child, and all the material to act as the ‘background’ came from Anastasia, and she’s given the
I really did, I suppose, dream of going up to the stories. production a unique feel that makes it
through the garden, through the stables, “The challenge we had,” says Keith, unlike anything we’ve ever done, or even
into the little paddock behind and way “was to illustrate Damaris’ narrative with seen, before. What has grown organically
down into a nice bright room, where there additional cutaway dramatic sequences, from the initial filming is a totally unique
was this witch called Lobelia. She told me so we had to storyboard and plan a series piece of television. It’s quite exciting!”
Produced and directed by Anastasia and
Keith Barnfather, White Witch of Devil’s End
BROUGHT TO BOOK from the script; I felt there had
to be new elements that not only
will be released on DVD by Koch Media
on 13 November as part of a DVD box
I
’m a co-director of the “When I came to novelise my expanded the story, but added new set, The Dæmons of Devil’s End. This will
publishing company Telos, story,” says Sam Stone, “I realised dimensions and reveals without them also contain the 1993 Reeltime Pictures
and Keith Barnfather that I could flesh the characters out feeling ‘tacked-on’.” documentary Return to Devil’s End – in
suggested that we might as well as tell the reader more Jan Edwards also relished the which cast and crew members from The
want to release about Olive’s life in 1944. task: “Being able to move beyond Dæmons returned to the location – and
a novelisation of I had room to develop the walls of Olive’s cottage made all a third DVD of other events and visits by
White Witch of her character.” the difference. That said, it was also fans, cast and crew to Aldbourne. The set
Devil’s End. As a “The expansion was harder in some ways. The story was also includes a number of bonus features.
massive fan of the the biggest challenge,” already there so we were constrained Five years after recording began, Keith
old Target Doctor says Suzanne Barbieri. by what we had already written, is looking forward to finally sharing
Who books, I’d “I’m quite an economical which is a very different process than White Witch of Devil’s End with viewers.
always wanted to writer – I don’t like my usual writing style. Being a bit “Normally I have a fairly good idea what
write one myself. Here padded out stories. It of a seat-of-the-pants writer it was fans will think of a production we’ve
was the chance to do wasn’t simply a matter quite odd to be bound by an existing made, but this time I have no frame of
something similar. of writing up the scenes plot. But we got there in the end.” reference,” he says. “We’re in uncharted
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THE INTERVIEW
SYLVESTER
The second part of our
interview with Sylvester
McCoy recalls Doctor
Who’s 50th anniversary
and looks forward to the
future of the series.
INTERVIEW BY RICHARD ATKINSON

O
n 2 March 1987, the Colin Baker has been an unapologetic
press assembled in the advocate of our new Doctor, whereas Fifth
Blue Peter garden outside Doctor Peter Davison has defended fans
BBC Television Centre who are unsure. Peter’s also commented
to meet the Seventh that a male Doctor is a good role model
Doctor. Sylvester McCoy for boys. Does Sylvester agree that the
posed, hanging out of Doctor is a better role model for boys
the TARDIS doors, alongside his co-star, than most male heroes?
Bonnie Langford. “Oh yes, definitely. Doctor Who is a
Thirty years on, there are now as many brilliant thing. That’s why I loved it –
Doctors who have succeeded Sylvester than the idea and the concept of it. Because
there had been when he took on the role. he was a superhero who didn’t wear his
On 16 July 2017, we were introduced to underpants outside his trousers. And he
the latest. In a short scene broadcast on used his brain not his brawn. And it’s such
BBC One, Jodie Whittaker pulled down her an important thing, in our very violent
hood and revealed the first female Doctor. society, that we have something like that.
How is Doctor Who going to change now “I was a bit disappointed when they
a woman is at the helm of the TARDIS? brought in young Doctors. Anglo-Saxon
“I’ve no idea!” says Sylvester. “Have to society is not very good at dealing with its
wait and see really. I’m looking forward old people. And to have young people see
to it with interest. She’s a good actress. an older person being a superhero, that
A really good actress.” was brilliant. I was delighted when Peter
Does he know much of Jodie Whittaker’s Capaldi came back with an older Doctor. does he think it could be much worse for Opposite page:
work? “Not a lot, but I’ve heard.” He sighs. But when David Tennant and Matt Smith Jodie Whittaker? “I’ve no idea!” His eyes Sylvester McCoy is
introduced to the press
“I haven’t been in Britain. For the last did it they were great! So anyway, now widen in exasperation. “I would advise
as the new Doctor on
three months, I’ve been in my own home we’re going to go onto a woman. It’s any actor to not read the reviews. Even if 2 March 1987.
for about three days. I look forward to difficult to judge. Because I was against you get a good review, that can affect your
Above: Fighting the
seeing it. If she’s got good writers, it’ll fly.” the idea of younger Doctors, but when performance. You get it in your head.” enemy with brains, not
But as recently as 2015, Sylvester told the they arrived they were great. So, what do Instead, his advice to the new Doctor is brawn. With Richard
tabloid press that he “wasn’t convinced by I know?” a classic: “She should learn her lines and Briers as the Chief
the cultural need for a female Doctor Who”. But does he think it’s unfair to criticise try not to bump into the monsters.” Caretaker/Kroagnon
“I do admit that,” says Sylvester. people who raise concerns, or haven’t Another recent talking point was the in a publicity shot for
Part Three of Paradise
“I thought that. It’s kind of weird, because come around to the idea? “Hey, it’s debate surrounding BBC staff salaries. Towers (1987).
I am still the Doctor. I do [audio dramas the internet world. Everyone criticises Earlier this year, the disparity between male
Below: Bonnie
for] Big Finish. I am Doctor Who and it’s everyone. Would they do it to your face? and female salaries prompted BBC Director Langford, who played
like, ‘Oh God, am I having a sex change?’ It’s I bet they wouldn’t. Listen, Peter General Tony Hall to confirm that Jodie Melanie, was with
kind of weird from a personal point of view. [Davison] has got sons. Perfectly would be paid the same as Peter Capaldi. Sylvester for his first
But when it was announced, I thought, understandable. Colin’s got daughters. “I find all that really tedious,” says photocall.
‘Oh, to hell with it – this is adventurous, Perfectly understandable. There’s their Sylvester, when asked to comment on the
this is new. Let’s see what happens.’” argument. That’s it really.” decision to release these figures. “It was
Two of his fellow Doctors have also Given the backlash Sylvester received, an attack on the BBC. It was people trying
weighed in on this issue. Sixth Doctor though, and the impact it had on him, to destroy the BBC. They’re whittling it
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Above left: In 2013 away every way they can. What about the international dateline] to LA – and Doctor. And he’s still a very witty,
Sylvester joined Paul ITV? Did they ask what people are getting I landed at six o’clock in the morning on outrageous man. I like that kind of thing!”
McGann and Janet paid across the industry? Do they go to the 4th of July. I’d flown backwards! That’s Although it never happened for the
Fielding to promote
the 50th anniversary
Hollywood? No, it’s nobody’s business. If time travel. If I did Doctor Who now, I’d be 50th anniversary, would Sylvester be
of Doctor Who in they’re worth it, they’re worth it.” permanently jetlagged.” interested in coming back and starring
Australia. It certainly seems, from the outside, alongside the current Doctor? “Oh yes. All
B
Photo © Catherine Cranston. ack in 1987, when Sylvester was that the 80s Doctors must have spent the of us Doctors – twentieth-century Doctors
Above right: Tom cast as the Doctor, becoming the best part of the anniversary year together. – we all agree. We all love Doctor Who and
Baker, Peter Davison, star of a BBC show presumably “I’ve spent a lot of time in their company we’d love to be asked back. I thought
Colin Baker, Sylvester wasn’t quite as financially over the years really,” says Sylvester. “We it was a great shame that for the 50th
and Matt Smith at the
rewarding… “Yes and no. As an actor, it get on really well. I’ve got to know Peter anniversary they didn’t actually use us.
ExCeL Centre in 2013.
did change things, because when I finished [Davison] and Colin particularly – and What they could have done during that
Below: Paul McGann,
and went out and back into the theatre, also Paul McGann. I knew Paul before he 50th year, is they could have had each one
Peter Davison, Colin
Baker and Sylvester they put an extra nought onto my wages, became Doctor Who. I’m always delighted of us in an episode in disguise or some
gather for The because I’d been in Doctor Who.” by their company, wherever we are.” other way, some imaginative way, just to
Five(ish) Doctors The series has been a huge part of One of their biggest public appearances make us part of it. But then we won, by
Reboot (2013). Sylvester’s life ever since he took on the came in November 2013, when Sylvester, doing The Five(ish) Doctors Reboot. That
role. A few years back, he and the other Colin and Peter were joined on stage was our humorrrous rrrevenge!”
Doctors went on the road to promote by Tom Baker at the ExCeL Centre in A love letter to the fans? “It was. Yeah,
50 years of Doctor Who – which included London, for BBC Worldwide’s celebratory we did it for the fans.”
a tour of Australia. “Oh, I’ve been in mega-convention. “Oh yeah, that was
Australia many times,” says Sylvester. great,” recalls Sylvester. “I always like it
“I’ve just come back from Australia via when Tom comes, because then we feel “ All of us twentieth-
New Zealand. I went round the world like we’re all there together. Everyone was century Doctors – we
backwards. I left Auckland at one o’clock
on the 4th of July, flew 12 hours [across
very sweet to each other. Honestly, we all
admire Tom. Because he was a great
all agree. We all love
Doctor Who and we’d
love to be asked back.”

The half-hour spoof documentary – have relished. “Absolutely. I really did. known and also a brilliant actor. I was a bit Above left:
aired on the BBC’s red button service Because for many years the RSC tended to disappointed, but also at the same time Sylvester as the
after The Day of the Doctor was broadcast cast the Fool with – I suppose you could I was rather chuffed to be in his company. Fool, entertaining
the eponymous King
on 23 November 2013 – followed Peter, call them straight actors – but they didn’t So then when I arrived with King Lear in Lear (Ian McKellen)
Colin, Sylvester and (briefly) Paul McGann seem to imbue it with comedy. But he’s New Zealand, Peter Jackson [the director of in Trevor Nunn’s
as they campaigned to be a part of the a fool, therefore he has to have those skills. The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit] came 2007 production
50th anniversary story. It was lovingly And so it was great to be able to go in to see it and then he invited me back to his of Shakespeare’s
crafted by Peter Davison, who instigated and do it and prove that there are a lot of country abode with Ian and Frankie Barber tragedy.
Photo © Rex/Shutterstock.
and directed the project. It’s fair to say, laughs in there. It’s one of the great roles [who played Goneril in King Lear] – just
however, that it’s crammed to capacity really. It’s probably one of the greatest the three of us – and I knew I was being Above: As Radagast
with some very obscure in-jokes and roles I’ve played – apart from Doctor Who auditioned over a weekend. Quite nerve- in The Hobbit: An
Unexpected Journey
Doctor Who-star cameos. We wonder what of course! It’s such a great role because racking really. I thought, ‘I’m going to put (2012).
casual viewers who stumbled upon it you’re allowed to be comic and then my foot in it!’ But I didn’t – I got the job.”
Below: Sylvester’s
might have made of it. tragic. And to juggle those things together During the course of our conversation, costume was
“Who?” says Sylvester. is important. That’s what I was trying to Sylvester lists many of the places around the designed by Ken
Um… Non-fans? do in the early days with Doctor Who.” world that he’s been, on many occasions in Trew and first
Sylvester’s having none of it. “People Is it true that Sylvester’s part in King Lear the service of meeting his fans. One place he appeared in Time
loved it. I mean casual viewers do love it.” helped him to get his part in The Hobbit recently visited was Jaipur in India – where, and the Rani (1987).
Peter and Colin seemed to be playing movies? “In a way, yes. It helped cement along with a number of other celebrities, Inset: Hobbit and
slight caricatures of themselves, sending things. What was it? Twelve years before, he took part in the BBC series The Real Lord of the Rings
director Peter Jackson
themselves up a bit, but broadly speaking I was asked to go up for Bilbo Baggins in Marigold Hotel to see if the city would reportedly owns one
Sylvester seemed much more like himself. Lord of the Rings and then they whittled be a good place to retire. What was his of Sylvester’s Doctor
“Was I? I don’t know.” He smiles, “I was away over a year, I don’t know, maybe favourite part of the whole experience? Who costumes.
just doing what I was doing. I saw it as fun.” a dozen actors and they got down to two “Indian food!” says Sylvester in a flash.
Part of this ‘fun’ was standing outside and I was one of those two. So, obviously, “The food was brilliant. It was great to
Television Centre in the freezing cold, they knew who I was – they’d seen me be there for such a time and not be like
waving placards. We joke that Sylvester may – and they were thinking of casting me a tourist. It’s an astonishing place. If I ever
have been cross when John Barrowman in the role. And of course they went for retired, I might consider going back
came along and tried to upstage them. Ian Holm, naturally because he was well and staying there.”
“It was great! John and I are great friends.
He’s very funny and we got on really well.”
THE BIG PICTURE
A
nother one of the fun things
W
about The Five(ish) Doctors is e’ve been told that the he was very wise; he knew not to
that it gave Sir Ian McKellen Lord of the Rings and mention it till the end.”
the opportunity to be rude Hobbit director Peter Would Sylvester perhaps like
about Sylvester – in a dry, tongue-in- Jackson owns to see him direct Doctor Who?
cheek fashion, of course. We wonder what one of Sylvester’s Doctor Who “If he was directing it, it’d be
he was like when Sylvester played the costumes... “So I believe,” says brilliant. I mean all that
Fool opposite Sir Ian in Trevor Nunn’s Sylvester. “I’ve been told that as technology, he
production of King Lear in 2007. well. We worked for three years knows it all.
“He was great,” says Sylvester. “We and he never mentioned it. Never I wonder if
became a double act. People said that mentioned anything about Doctor they’ll ever
there were scenes with such close contact Who. Then we got to the last day. And make a film of
between the Fool and King Lear. He did he made these lovely speeches, which he Doctor Who. When
tease. He’s got a glorious sense of humour. did for all the actors on their last day. After the franchise
A dangerous sense of humour.” their last scene he gave them a little present starts to fade
If you check out the filmed version of and then he said nice things. And then he they might
this production on YouTube, you can find said, ‘And I got to work with Doctor Who!’ start doing
a clip where Sylvester’s Fool takes out the I was like, ‘Wow!’ that. That’s
tiniest violin case and, when he opens He’s a very wise man, because if he’d what they did with
it, inside are his spoons, which he then said that at the beginning then there would the Star Trek franchise.
proceeds to play. His performance is full have been a superiority from me to him. But They started making films.”
of physical comedy. It’s a role he must
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Scotland a lot. I think they worked there
before on something.”
Most of Sylvester’s scenes were with
Tuppence Middleton. “I know. Aren’t I
lucky? She is delightful. It was lovely to see
her again – I worked with her before. Dan
Freeman did The Light of September – which
is up there in the ether somewhere.”
This is a podcast – a sci-fi audio drama
available in all the usual places. Sylvester
is, as we know, equally at home in a
modest recording studio as he is filming
Sense8. “It’s all over the world, there’s no
green screen. That’s its… authenticity
element, among its other authenticities.
It was glorious. And hopefully they’re
doing another one. Well, a wind-up of the
story because, as you may know, it was
cancelled. Then there was a big hoo-ha.
And now they’ve brought it back.”
And will Sylvester be in it when that
happens? “Well, I’m hoping – fingers
crossed!”
What does he make of his character’s
special powers: the ability to communicate
telepathically with others all over the
world? “I think it’s really exciting. They
say that we only use a very small capacity
of our brain, and that there’s a lot more in
Above: Sylvester Sylvester shared the experience with got on really well, Patti and I. We had a there. And I think, [as the series suggests]
with Bobby George, an old friend. “Yes, Miriam [Margolyes] wonderful dance together at the end of it. in earlier times, it could well be that people
Wayne Sleep, Clarissa I knew… Way back she did a play, at the A kind of Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers had that kind of ability. People do have
Dickson-Wright,
Miriam Margolyes,
Edinburgh Festival, about a great lesbian dance, which I’ll remember forever really.” it, now and again – now and again people
poet who lived in Paris. [Miriam starred in sense it when someone has dropped dead.
C
Jan Leeming, Roy
Walker and Patti Gertrude Stein and a Companion about the ontinuing the globetrotting They know all that. I think it would be
Boulaye in India for famous American writer]. The other girl theme, one of Sylvester’s latest really good if we could all tune into each
The Real Marigold in it, I fell in love with. So I went to see projects has taken him to
Hotel (2016). it a lot! And got to know Miriam. She is Amsterdam, Chicago and back
Below: Tuppence glorious and outrageous. home – to the Highlands of Scotland. “I think it would be
Middleton as Riley
Blue and Sylvester as
“The whole company [of The Real He plays ‘the Old Man of Hoy’ in the really good if we
Marigold Hotel] was a laugh and Netflix sci-fi series Sense8. It’s a hugely
the Old Man of Hoy
in the Netflix series fascinating. [Darts legend] Bobby George international venture – filmed not only in could all tune into
Sense8 (2017). was hilariously funny, as were others…” Amsterdam and Chicago, but also London, each other and
Wayne Sleep? “Yeah! Wayne was lovely!
Who else…”
Berlin, Nairobi, Seoul, Mumbai, Mexico
City, Reykjavik and San Francisco. Was
help each other out.”
Roy Walker? Um… Patti Boulaye, Sylvester there to inject some Scottishness?
who’s now doing Celebrity Masterchef. “Oh “Well obviously I was playing a Scot, other and help each other out. It’s about
yes,” says Sylvester. “She’s doing what?” so I must have done! Lana [Wachowski getting together and it’s about love.
Celebrity Masterchef. “Oh, is she? – one of the creators of Sense8], she likes I loved it, I loved being in it. But I haven’t
Great! She was terrific. Yes, we Scotland. She and her wife had been to been able to get the spoons in. Yet.”
So, what’s next for Sylvester McCoy?
“There will be more Big Finish, obviously.
Hopefully, that just carries on. Maybe,
Sense8… who knows. I’m in one of those
places that actors get sometimes, when
the things are there but they haven’t
landed precisely. Until you’ve signed the
contract, you can’t say you’re doing it.
“If not, then I’ll be touring America –
doing conventions and meeting the fans.
When I first started Doctor Who I got the
job on Monday, and on Thursday I was
in Atlanta at a convention and I had no
idea what was going on. But, it was great.
I loved it. The fans were so welcoming. It
was amazing. John Nathan-Turner said to
me after we did the convention that I took
to it like a duck to water!
“I fell in love with the madness, the glory,
the fantasy. A delight! I fell in love with the
fans and I’ve been in love ever since.”

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BOX OF “S
ince I was a little
kid I’ve always had
a go at building
things,” says Paul
Foden, a Doctor
DELIGHTS
Who fan who built
a TARDIS behind
his house in Stoke-on-Trent. Over the
summer the fruits of his labours saw him
appear on national television and in the
pages of several newspapers.
Paul Foden’s journey to the finals of
Channel 4’s Shed of the Year began with
Channel 4’s Amazing Spaces: Shed of the his children. “When my youngest was
a kid I made a Thomas the Tank Engine
Year recently included a Doctor Who-themed from wood,” he says. “My wife thought
entry in an episode devoted to the ‘Pubs and I was joking and that it wouldn’t turn
out very well at all, but it did. It lasted
Entertainment’ and ‘Unexpected’ categories. a good ten years!”
Paul, who works in property
We meet Paul Foden, the man who built a shed maintenance, was also inspired by his
children’s devotion to Doctor Who. He
that appears to be bigger on the inside... began his collection of replicas with a
full-size wooden Dalek. He continued by
INTERVIEW BY APRIL McINTYRE creating versions of K9 and a Cyberman

made of fibreglass. The death of
his father in 2013 inspired him
to try something more ambitious.
“I used to have a couple of
greenhouses,” he says. “When
my dad passed away I decided
to do all of this – replace the
greenhouses with the TARDIS.
My dad would have loved it. He
was a fan.”
Many other fans have recreated
the familiar police box exterior,
but Paul didn’t stop there. As well
Opposite page: Paul
as building the outer shell, he has also Foden outside his
recreated the inside of the TARDIS. Albeit remarkable TARDIS
on a relatively modest scale. “I was going shed. He’s flanked
to use the little shed down at the bottom by a homemade
of my yard to make half a console, but Cyberman and Dalek.
decided that if I was going to build one Above left: Paul with
I might as well do the whole thing. I would Amazing Spaces: Shed
of the Year presenter
have liked to have built the outer sections
George Clarke.
of the control room as well, but it all came
Above right: The
down to space.” interior of Paul’s shed
is based on Michael
P
aul spent a year building his Pickwoad’s design for
TARDIS shed, after carefully the current TARDIS
studying images and episodes. control room.
The control room that most Left: A Cyberman
inspired him was the machine-like is attached to the
ceiling of Paul’s
version designed by Michael Pickwoad
control room.
and first seen in the 2012 Christmas
Below: Paul’s K9
Special The Snowmen. “That control
is another of his
room looks great,” says Paul. “It’s an handmade creations.
impressive TARDIS.
“I started with the This purchase forms
console first,” he “I knew I wouldn’t part of a panel that
explains, “designing it
from pictures. Then
be able to get half appears at the front
of the console. This
I spent time working the stuff I needed panel and an old
out the panels and
cutting them. I knew
for the console, so voltmeter are the
only elements
I wouldn’t be able to get I handmade most of the TARDIS
half the stuff I needed of the parts.” shed not
for the console, so handcrafted by
I handmade most of Paul. He didn’t
the parts, trying to get them as close as keep a precise track of what he spent
possible to what you see on the original.” over that year, but he estimates that the
Luck played a part in locating items total cost of the control room and police
that would have been tricky to make. box exceeded £2,000.
“I was at a car boot sale and saw a lever Building a TARDIS was one thing,
I needed,” Paul remembers. “I gave the guy but getting to the finals of Shed of the Year
a quid. I couldn’t believe it – this lever was proved another challenge in itself. Paul
identical to one on the actual console.” was up against hundreds of other entries
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BOX OF DELIGHTS
“I’ve had a few

messages from
fans. Some people
have even come
over to look at it
and take pictures.”
in the ‘Unexpected’ category. “I put achievement. The police box gateway, he described this most elaborate of
a couple of pictures on the website and largely constructed from timber off-cuts, garden ornaments as “a monument to
applied for the show. They got back to me gives way to the hexagonal shed – 12 feet one man’s dedication”.
and it went from there. George Clarke [the across and nine feet high – that houses the
P
presenter] arrived with a crew and they control room. In the centre of the room aul was up against a very
were absolutely great people.” is a console decorated with flashing LED impressive fire station shed
It was a grey and drizzly day when the lights and dominated by an illuminated and other similarly eccentric
programme recorded its visit to Paul’s central column. Certain buttons even creations. Unfortunately he
back garden in Tunstall, but his unique activate sound effects. George Clarke didn’t win his category, but he doesn’t seem
shed still came across as a remarkable sounded entirely complimentary when particularly upset. He says he’s just happy
that his TARDIS made it onto television.
“I was fine with the outcome. Everyone in
TARDIS ON TAP Pinterest even offers ‘12 Best

Doctor Who Sheds’.
the final put so much hard work in and it
was good just to be part of the show.”
P
aul’s TARDIS Detroit, and another DIY In 2015 the Tatton Park Paul’s appearance on Shed of the Year
control room is just police box overlooks a village RHS Flower Show played seems to have inspired a number of
one example of the in Falmouth. Treehouses host to The Invisibility TARDIS other TARDIS-builders. “I’ve had a few
lengths fans have remain a popular TARDIS Shed of Navel Contemplation. messages from fans,” he confirms. “Some
gone to in recreating a piece choice for fans with children. Sheds cans also be useful, people have even come over to look at
of the show. Some of these Sheds are another ready-made as well as decorative – one it and take pictures.” Paul’s TARDIS is
projects even make the news: structure for the enterprising industrious fan turned their now something of a local landmark, with
there is a neighbourhood fan to customise – social shed into a TARDIS bathroom. neighbours and friends popping in to
Above: Paul at the
police box library in media gallery see what all the fuss is about. “If anyone
controls of his highly wants to see it then they’re more than
detailed console. welcome,” he says, generously.
Right: This library in “I don’t have any plans for another shed,
Detroit also took its not at the minute,” says Paul, with a hint
inspiration from the of regret. “I don’t have the space!” He is,
TARDIS. however, planning something else that will
Far right: The take up less room: “Next year I’m thinking
Invisibility TARDIS of building Davros from fibreglass.”
Shed of Navel
Contemplation
In the meantime, Paul needs to carry
materialised at the out some TARDIS maintenance. “There’s
2015 Tatton Park RHS some touching up that still needs doing.
Flower Show. I suppose there always will be...”

CHRIS EMMA MICHAEL WILL
The Time Team
The continuing mission to watch all 839 episodes of Doctor Who, in order from the start...
THIS ISSUE Episode 775 – THE REBEL FLESH
Double Trouble
The Doctor, Amy and Rory become involved in see… Buzzer, alive and well! “Hang on, what?”
says a confused Chris. “Oh, is this a clone story?
a revolution of a very different kind… one in which I love a good clone story!” he enthuses.
“Ah, it’s by Matthew Graham, from Life on
the rebels attempt to overthrow themselves! Mars,” says Will as the opening credits appear
on screen. “Marshall Lancaster, who plays
COMPILED BY PAUL LANG | ILLUSTRATIONS BY ADRIAN SALMON Buzzer, was in that too,” he declares, with all
the confidence of a man who knows the answer
“W
to the tie-break question in the Quiz League of
hich bowl do you century power station?” he says. “Anyone would London Cup 2017 final.
want me to empty think this is The Crystal Maze!” “What’s that terrible noise in the TARDIS?”
this jumbo bag of This particular monastery is strangely lacking wails Michael, as we finally join our intrepid
Frazzles into, Will?” in monks. In fact, the first people we see are travellers.
asks Michael, as the Jimmy, Buzzer and Jennifer – factory workers in Will listens intently. “Supermassive Black Hole,
Time Team assembles clanking metal suits and protective headgear. by Muse,” he says.
to watch the next “Is the cockroach vibe of the armour “Muse in the control room
adventure of the Doctor and his loyal chums, a deliberate comment on their status?” and Rory playing darts? This
Amy and Rory. wonders Emma. is unusually chilled out for the
“Oh, any one you like,” replies Will, casually. The workers enter a crypt containing a well TARDIS crew,” says Emma.
“Just make sure you don’t accidentally put of hot, bubbling goop. “Oh, it’s like a giant The Doctor’s only
them in my new Quiz League of London Cup version of the Quiz League of London Cup pretending to enjoy himself
2017 trophy.” 2017 trophy,” says Will, gesturing proudly to though, as he uses the
Emma rolls her eyes. “Not another one, the mantelpiece. “Health and safety nightmare, TARDIS to scan Amy for signs
Will!” she laughs. “That mantelpiece of yours though. No pushing near of her mysterious pregnancy.
is heaving!” the vat!” he warns. But before he can worry about
Will grins. “Always room for more,” he Too late – Buzzer’s it some more, the TARDIS is
says, as he clicks the remote to start the fallen in the acid. sent crashing down to Earth.
entertainment – The Rebel Flesh. “Nobody very “Yay! Blown off course by solar
“Ooh that’s a gorgeous establishing shot,” bothered – least of tsunami. I always like that sort of
coos Chris, at the sight of an imposing stone all Buzzer,” observes thing,” raves Michael.
monastery, surrounded by sea. Michael. The tsunami lands the TARDIS below
“Must be a hell of a climb when you get off “And now they’re the mysterious monastery and the Doctor’s
the boat,” notes Will. just leaving him? What attention is grabbed by a distant
Michael screws up his face. “It looks fake to a workplace culture,” says cockerel on top of the tower.
me,” he sniffs. Will, agog. Amy reckons the place must be
Chris is more excited. “An island castle with Jennifer and Jimmy medieval, until the familiar
the industrial-tech decor of a twenty-first- turn the corner to strains of You Don’t Have to
Say You Love Me fill the air.
The equipment that creates
“Oh, Dusty Springfield!”
Gangers from the Flesh. cheers Michael. “Now
that’s what the Doctor
should have had
playing in the
TARDIS. I expect
he knew her.”
Chris has spotted
that Matt Smith is doing
a new ‘thing’. “He’s creasing his
face up a lot,” he notes.
“It’s an interesting
idiosyncrasy, but distracting
to suddenly see that baby face
of his wear the expression of a man
who can’t quite put his finger on

where the bad smell’s coming from. Speaking of Cleaves orders Jennifer into her harness. “Did all the crew get shocked in their rigs
which, there’s acid everywhere!” “Clocking-in for your clone’s shift. What an during the surge?” frets Emma. “It’s all gone
There is indeed – a supply pipe has ruptured, interesting spin on the idea of an avatar,” a bit Frankenstein’s monster!” she says. “That
and a scan reveals something unpleasant is says Chris. storm felt like a cracking ‘end of part one’ in the
being pumped back to the mainland. “That shot of Ganger Jennifer forming is old money,” says Michael.
Dusty is rudely interrupted by an alarm fantastic!” gasps Michael. “Reminds me of the As everyone recovers, they hear Dusty
and the Doctor surprises Amy and Rory by way Terrance Dicks always described Autons Springfield playing – but who put the music
heading in the direction of whoever’s coming being formed in the on? “I love using that
to intercept them. They arrive in a room Target books. Way out intro to create a real
containing people suspended in alcoves, all of the range of the telly “ Snake-neck Jennifer sense of foreboding!”
apparently asleep. Jimmy and Buzzer rush in, back then, but not now,” looks much better than says Chris.
followed by Jennifer, Dicken and the big boss,
Foreman Cleaves.
he says, proudly.
“The whole process is
the Lazarus monster They all head to the
dining hall to investigate,
Will grins. “Raquel Cassidy as Cleaves has deliciously grotesque,” did only a couple of and find it ransacked –
stolen this scene immediately,” he says.
“She’s wonderfully watchable.” Michael
says Emma, rubbing her
hands with glee. “Like
years ago” - MICHAEL more evidence that
the Gangers are out
agrees. “This is a great cast!” he enthuses. a liquid eyeball slowly there, alive.
“We’re really in base-under-siege territory now.” congealing into a form. I know the Gangers Jennifer’s still feeling wobbly, so Rory
A quick flash of the psychic paper convinces clothes are synthesised as well, but accompanies her to the washroom. As she
Cleaves to show to the Doctor exactly I wonder if they’re removable?” looks in the mirror, a glob of Flesh falls off her
what they’re up to – brewing up “Probably attached,” decides Chris, face and into the sink. “Oh no, she’s the wrong
bowls of programmable ‘Flesh’ that “like Action Man’s underpants.” Jennifer!” wails Emma. “And she’s gone a bit
can replicate any physical form. The Doctor warns Cleaves that John Carpenter’s The Thing. Rory was helping,
“‘Flesh’ is a great term for it,” there’s another solar storm on its she didn’t have to punch him! Poor Rory,”
says Emma. It’s like a big puddle way, but she’s not interested in she sighs.
of organic matter waiting to be evacuating – there’s work to be done. “Snake-neck Jennifer looks much better than
poured into a mould.” Cleaves (Raquel He’s frustrated and furious. “Matt’s the Lazarus monster did only a couple of years
Cleaves explains that everyone Cassidy). great at being ‘take charge Doctor’. ago,” says Michael.
except Jennifer is a Ganger – their ‘real’ He’s got such authority,” says Michael. “It could have been unintentionally comical,”
selves are all in harness, controlling the The ground starts to shake, bursting the admits Will, “but it stays on the right side
Flesh. Faced with a big, bubbling cauldron full pipes and allowing the acid to run free. The and is suitably grim. Although... where’s the
of goodness-only-knows-what, there’s only one Doctor realises the weather vane cockerel real Jennifer?”
thing our hero wants to do. will channel a massive power surge when the Cleaves turns round to reveal her half-Ganger
“I know the Doctor is endlessly curious solar wave hits. He climbs up to deactivate it, form. “She doesn’t realise she’s a Ganger,”
but he really shouldn’t go sticking his hand in but it’s too late. Energy ripples through the says Michael. “This is going to get confusing,”
strange things,” says Will, rolling his eyes. monastery – knocking everyone unconscious. he warns.
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The Time Team
The Doctor, Amy and
Jimmy leave to find Rory.
“The Doctor’s hiding
something about the Flesh,”
says Emma.
“And the look he gives Amy
when she asks,” gasps Michael.
Rory tries to comfort the
distraught Jennifer. “There’s
a proper moral dilemma at the
heart of this,” says Will. “If the
Gangers think and behave like
they’re real people, who’s to say
they aren’t? And now the story
is putting Rory and Amy on
opposite sides of the issue.”
Michael is also moved. “Sarah
Smart is really unsettling as
Ganger Jennifer,” he says. “She
has fantastic vulnerability. Really
making you feel for a lump of goo
that’s had an electric shock.”
The Doctor decides they’d be
safer with the TARDIS so heads
off to retrieve it, stopping off for
an ill-advised nosey at the Flesh
tank en route.
As Amy searches the corridors,
she spots a familiar face. “Eye real Jennifer ‘the spare one’ is deliciously dark,” concept in general, but has reservations: “I feel
patch Frances Barber!” whoops Chris. grins Michael. that the identity drama too quickly became
“Wink and you miss it!” laughs Emma. Meanwhile, the Doctor and Cleaves realise goodies versus baddies.”
The Doctor returns to the crypt, where he the chapel is their most defendable location. Will, however, is completely carried away by
finds the Gangers, looking With the Gangers the fun and exuberance of it all. “Lots going
fully human again. The approaching and the
real Cleaves appears “ Ganger Doctor! door about to slam shut,
on… a strong central issue to grapple with and
a team on the base that is established quickly
behind her Ganger. He’s been fleshed! Rory splits off from the and works well together,” he concludes. “Roll
“If the Gangers can
twist their heads around,
How exciting!” – EMMA
group to look for Jen
– but which Jen will he
on part two!”
they can’t be the same as find? And just what is

the originals,” Emma points out. “But that still
doesn’t mean they’re baddies,” she adds.
lurking in the chapel?
“Ganger Doctor! He’s been Fleshed, how
AND YOU SAID...
Rory returns to the dining hall with exciting!” says Emma, breathlessly. BLAINE COUGHLAN: Back in the 70s and 80s,
Ganger Jennifer, and the Originals shun “It’s important that every Doctor has his ‘evil downtime in the TARDIS meant the Doctor brooding
her, demanding to know where her ‘real’ twin’ episode,” agrees Michael. enigmatically, or his companions either playing chess
counterpart is. The Doctor and the “Don’t assume that because he’s a or trying on new outfits. It’s enormous fun to witness
Gangers rock up shortly after, and Ganger he’s evil!” Will reminds him the modern equivalent, with rock and roll blaring
the two sides face off. Ganger as the end credits crash in. throughout the control room while Rory plays darts.
Buzz lunges for Cleaves, who “You know, I really enjoyed
shoots him dead. The Doctor is that,” says Michael. “Lots of ADRIAN PORTER: It’s not really made clear
appalled. The Gangers transform potential, looked amazing, exactly where this story is set. From the architecture
into their Flesh forms, which is great cast. Amy and Rory it’s probably Earth – but there’s nowhere on our
Cleaves’ cue to attack Ganger seemed to have more to planet where you can mine for acid! And just why do
Jennifer. Rory leaps to her do as well. It got right to my the workers need to mine for acid anyway? There’s a lot
defence and floors Cleaves. fanboy pleasure circuits in left unexplained, and that isn’t very satisfying.
“Go Action Rory!” cheers lots of ways,” he says, fanning
Will. “It’s what Harry Sullivan himself with a copy of Doctor YASMIN FLETCHER: The jealousy that Amy tries
would’ve done.” Who Magazine. to hide when Rory goes off with Jen is beautifully
In the melee, the Gangers “Acid nonsense aside, played by Karen Gillan. And Arthur Darvill is brilliant,
slip away and nick all the I’ve loved it so far,” says too – you can tell Rory quite fancies his new friend!
protective armour. Emma. “It’s just the
Ganger Jennifer right amount of scary RICHARD THOMAS: The scene in which Ganger
then heads off on with tense stand-offs Jen stretched her head towards Rory was the most
her own to find and monstrous frightening thing I’d ever seen in Doctor Who (I was only
and kill her visuals. Can’t wait to 10!). But it also made sure I’d tune in next week!
counterpart. see how it resolves!”
“Calling the Chris loves the The Time Team will be soon be watching the conclusion
to this two-part story: The Almost People. Send your
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n The Night Witches touchstones than Asimov or Tolkien. his early Doctor Who serials with starring roles
(featuring the Second Doctor, Jamie, Polly and Ben) In the early 1980s, producer John Nathan- in two comedies – Sink or Swim, about a pair
RRP £14.99 (CD), £10.99 (download) Turner famously took a large blue pencil to of mismatched northern brothers living in
Douglas Adams’ “undergraduate humour” London, and Holding the Fort, in which he

Time in Office features Leela (Louise Jameson), the
Fifth Doctor (Peter Davison) and Tegan (Janet Fielding).
played a stay-at-home husband and father

(a simply hilarious notion in 1980). On days
when he rehearsed Doctor Who in the mornings
before dashing over to a sitcom taping in the
afternoon, there must have times when he
didn’t know if he was supposed to be saving the
planet or warming a bottle (with Adric around,
maybe it didn’t matter).
And now, 35 years on, Davison gets to
legitimately combine the two skills in Time in
Office – the nearest thing we’re ever likely to get
to an actual Doctor Who sitcom, as the Doctor
finally takes up his duties as Lord President
of the Time Lords, with hilarious consequences.
Davison, who has made a good career
out of being agreeably flustered, is perfect
casting as the reluctant commander-in-chief,
and has shared sci-fi comedy history with
writer Eddie Robson, having been a regular
in his Radio 4 sitcom Welcome to Our Village,
Please Invade Carefully. This isn’t quite as
jocular as that (there’s no studio audience,
for a start), being more of a political satire, in
which the Doctor finds himself in the thick
of it on a Gallifrey stubbornly resistant to his
radical reform programme. (Think Yes,
Minister in space.)
Robson has also made concessions to the
fact that this is still Doctor Who, and thus
requires at least some scenes of mild
peril amid all the japes. Opener Period
of Adjustment, in particular, treads softly
softly, focusing more on politicking
and world-building than belly laughs
– though there are topical barbs about
Gallifrey not being ready for a woman
president, and pointed digs about
“the Capitol bubble”. Damn those
Metropolitan Time Lord
Elites, eh?
The most obvious a time-travel phobia
avenue for comic
potential – Tegan
Time in Office is the and a memorable scene
in which Leela requisitions
being forced to nearest thing we’re a ride-on lawnmower
marry the Doctor
in order to ever likely to get as a battle tank. A hapless
Tegan also gets to
get citizenship –
ends up being
to an actual Doctor utter the immortal line
“I didn’t mean to commit
a road not taken Who sitcom, as the genocide!”, which is
(she’s made an
ambassador
Doctor finally takes not a phrase you hear
enough in sitcoms.
instead) which up his duties as Lord History Repeating puts
is mildly
disappointing: I’d President of the Janet Fielding centre-stage
as she hooks up with
have loved at least
one episode of “Hi
Time Lords. a fanboy, wannabe Doctor
who whisks her off to
Doctor, I’m home”. a planet made of
There’s still plenty of glad-handing toothpaste. Like I said, it’s not Asimov.
great material for Janet and ends up Meanwhile, the Doctor is finding Time Lord
Fielding though, and provoking a full- life predictably stultifying. “I think we should
she rises to the occasion, scale diplomatic get on with this before anything happens,”
proving a good foil for incident, the says one of his advisers. “Oh yes,” he sighs.
Louise Jameson’s fabulously doofus. A loose “I wouldn’t want anything to happen.
deadpan Leela (who, we satire of religious That would be awful.”
learn, has the Raston conflicts (don’t By the final instalment, Architect of
Robot’s head mounted on go expecting Destruction, he’s mucking around and refusing
her kitchen wall). Chris Morris), it to take anything seriously, despite being
In Period of Adjustment, The Doctor finally fulfils
has some lovely at the sharp end of a political conspiracy
the President embarks his duties as President of gags, including plot. He’s also mortified by being forced to
on a bit of interplanetary Gallifrey in Time in Office. a Time Lord with accessorise with the Sash of Rassilon and the
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The Silurian Candidate, starring the Seventh
Doctor (Sylvester McCoy) and Ace (Sophie
THE REVIEW Aldred), features the return of Homo reptilia,
the original inhabitants of Earth.
Belt of Omega, which is a bit rich for a man

who habitually wears pyjama trousers and a
decorative vegetable.
There are moments during Time in Office when
I found myself wishing Robson and director
Helen Goldwyn had committed more fully to
the sitcom wheeze (though I suppose a laughter
track would have been pushing it). But it’s still
a breezy, hugely likeable quartet of comic cuts
that, if not always laugh-out-loud funny, should
at least leave you wearing a big daft grin.
I
f Peter Davison came to Doctor Who with
a track record of light comedy, then
Sylvester McCoy was a one-man cabaret
act who’d made his name shoving ferrets
up his nose and putting nails down his trousers
(or was it the other way round?). As such, his
Doctor started out ZANY and WACKY, before
a rethink saw him restyled as a manipulative,
cosmic chess player with SECRETS.
That journey informs much of the plot of
The Silurian Candidate, in which Ace warns
Mel, now back on the TARDIS full-time, that
the Doctor isn’t quite the goofy, spoon-playing
jester she might remember. That said, Matthew
J Elliott’s zingy script comes packed with gags,
comic business and what, forgive me readers,
I can only describe as bantz. (Let’s be honest,
if Bonnie Langford had got more lines like
“The last person I posed a threat to was the I carry an umbrella?” It’s a perfect piece of
reigning Pease Pottage roller disco champion,”
her character would be much more fondly
writing for Sylvester McCoy, who plays the sad
clown so well (though Elliott really ought to
Set in 2085, with the
remembered.) know by now that he’s less sure-footed with world on the brink
There’s a dark, bittersweet edge to the
Seventh Doctor’s humour at this stage in his
voluble anger).
Set in 2085, with the world on the brink of
of war between East
life, though. “Into each life some rain must war between East and West power blocs, the and West power
fall,” he notes at one point (because of course
he’s an Ella Fitzgerald fan). “Why do you think
story is a direct sequel to 1984’s Warriors of the
Deep, albeit with much better lighting. Tonally, blocs, the story is
a direct sequel to
1984’s Warriors of
TALKING BOOK of times lost and emphasises as they trundle around
BBC AUDIO
it, getting the best out of
Dicks’ prose and lifting every
war-torn Skaro. The final
confrontation as Davros’
the Deep.
character off the page. scientific elite are slaughtered
REVIEWED THIS ISSUE That’s not to say that and the Daleks turn on their it couldn’t be more different from that story –
n Survival (featuring the Genesis of the Daleks is creator (if you didn’t know director Ken Bentley likens it to an episode of
Seventh Doctor) RRP £20 (CD) merely an exercise in nostalgia the ending, where have you The Avengers, and there are definite shades
for 40-something fans. I’d been?) is a charged fusing of of Who’s own Bond-on-a-budget caper, The
happily give this to any literate Jon Culshaw’s urgent Enemy of the World (1967-68). But it does
J
on Culshaw brings ten-year-old to have a listen sense of drama and skilled revisit some of its themes, and indeed those of
his well-worn take on and wallow in a multi-layered sound design. every Silurian TV appearance – principally the
Tom Baker’s Fourth adventure that deals with some From the original Chris knotty question who are the real
Doctor back with quite weighty subjects. There’s Achilleos cover adorning the villains: the indigenous Eocenes, or the
this atmospheric reading of an almost dystopian feel to case, to the final line of hope human interlopers?
Terrance Dicks’ magnificent things that should play well from the Doctor, this is one In this latest bout of sapien v reptilian, the
novelisation Doctor Who and with a modern audience. of Doctor Who’s greatest hits Doctor is still yearning to find “another way”,
the Genesis of the Daleks. Nicholas Briggs doesn’t and should be an essential setting him on an ideological crash course with
This is another of those get as much to do as the purchase for any discerning ape sympathiser Ace, whose reasoning boils
outstanding entries from Daleks for this one, but his fan. MARK WRIGHT down to a pithy: “You snooze, you lose.” It’s the
the Target range, a book turn pleasingly captures the set-up for another exploration of Ace’s faith in
that effortlessly evokes the Genesis-era tones of original the Doctor, and vice versa, leaving Mel slightly
1975 TV original and brings Dalek voice artist Roy Skelton, yearning for those more innocent days of Welsh
with it a warm glow of cosy and Nick’s presence always holiday camps and galactic freezer centres.
nostalgia, of childhood Sunday gives an air of authenticity to It’s meaty stuff for Sophie Aldred and Bonnie
afternoons curled up on the any Dalek release. There’s a Langford, while Nicholas Briggs gets to add
sofa. Jon Culshaw’s reading nicely imperfect quality to the a 70s/80s-style Silurian to his list of monster
does a fine job of taking that clunky mechanical whirs of credits (he sounds so happy, in the bonus
sometimes melancholic glow the early Daleks interviews, discussing the relative merits of
ring modulation versus pitch-shifting).

SOUNDTRACKS better as a whole. In fact it comes
across almost as an album, with
If you’re at all interested in that
genre, or if you’re interested in
SILVA SCREEN hypnotic and abrasive passages Doctor Who full stop, you really
merging into one another as if ought to give this a listen. It’s every
REVIEWED THIS ISSUE they’d been planned that way. bit as strange and thrilling as it
n The Daleks The bulk of Cary’s music for the must have seemed back in 1963.
(music by Tristram Cary) RRP £8.99 story was released by BBC Music
T
in 2003. This new version makes hink of Survival, the final
n Survival it into a proper soundtrack album transmitted story of the and orchestral washes
(music by Dominic Glynn) RRP £8.99 by adding effects created by the original run of Doctor have aged surprisingly well. An
BBC Radiophonic Workshop’s Brian Who, and you’ll probably interesting new direction and one
Hodgson, a couple of cues that recall Dominic Glynn’s loud, punchy that unintentionally set the tone for
B
arbara’s scream on her – didn’t make it into the finished rock score. Guitar driven and as what came later; and indeed what
and our – first meeting episodes and Delia Derbyshire’s slick and compressed as a Belinda would have come had Doctor Who
with the Daleks is one original Doctor Who theme Carlisle hit, it didn’t especially returned in 1990. Rounding out
of the most famous arrangement. In the booklet, sound like anything that wannabe the package are Keff McCulloch’s
sounds in Doctor Who’s history. It you’ll find an archive piece from B-Boy Ace and her friends would opening and closing themes, and
wouldn’t have half as much impact, Cary explaining how he created the actually have listened to. a lively sleevenote from Sophie
however, without the jolting blast music (and how the original tapes Contemporary sounding and Aldred, who clearly knows her
of electronics that smashes in survived), plus an appreciation of his atypical, it was an odd note to have Doctor Who music.
behind it. career from the album’s producer ended on, but this first ever release Right at the end, there’s “... And
Tristram Cary’s score for The Mark Ayres. for the complete soundtrack might Somewhere Else, The Tea’s Getting
Daleks (aka The Mutants, 1963- Early electronic music is finding change your mind. Free from the Cold”, the short coda that Dominic
64) played a big part in hooking a wider audience all the time. visuals, the storyline and Hale & wrote at the last minute when it
viewers. Like the Daleks themselves, Pace, Dominic Glynn’s music has became obvious that Doctor Who
it’s a compelling collection of a lot more room here, and sounds wouldn’t be returning the following
futuristic yet also organic sounds, much better than it did on tiny year. It’s a haunting and effective
full of slippery thuds, dusty electrical television speakers in 1989. As piece, but also sounds as though
hums and metal clangs set against this album presents the complete it’s apologising for itself. A sign of
wooden taps. Not to mention soundtrack in order, it’s not much how far Doctor Who’s profile had
whatever was lurking in the planet of a structured listen, but it’s still fallen by 1989, but also a fitting line
Skaro’s Lake of Mutations. There’s surprisingly atmospheric and drawn under a flawed but valiant
little distinction here between what tuneful. The quieter and subtler fight for, well, survival. When
might get labelled music, effects passages are a welcome contrast Doctor Who finally did come back,
or atmospherics, which makes this to the riff-led posturing, and the the music was making no apologies
soundtrack album work all the synthesised piano hammering to anyone. TIM WORTHINGTON
P
atrick Troughton originated the ‘wise Moore – who previously explored the theme of another terrific Troughton impersonation,
fool’ interpretation of the Doctor women in wartime in his BBC series The Land shifting his voice down a register to capture
(shall we give the word ‘Chaplin-esque’ Girls – has more than done it justice with a that peculiar rhythm – with the rising
another run out here? I think we lovely, heartfelt, romantic tale that succeeds in sentences and that little, mid-sentence catch
should), but clowning is in short supply in The combining the emotional heft of modern Doctor of throat – of his old mucker. (In fact, at 72,
Night Witches, which ushers in a new series of Who with a genuine feel for the Troughton you could argue his Doctor is more convincing
Early Adventures this month; indeed, it’s a Doctor than his boy Jacobite.)
Who story with a rare weight of sadness to it.
The title derives from the German nickname Frazer Hines, pulling It’s really Anneke Wills’ show, though:
in addition to narration duties, she plays
given to a regiment of young, female Soviet a double shift as the dual roles of Polly and Tatania, a Night
aviators who flew bombing missions during the
Second World War using antiquated wood- the Doctor and Witch who just happens to be the Chelsea
girl’s exact double. (Yes, it’s the old
and-canvas biplanes. It’s a fascinating, little
known footnote in military history that’s ripe
Jamie, delivers doppelganger chestnut, but rarely
has such an eye-rolling plot
for the Doctor Who treatment, and Roland another terrific device been used to such
Troughton moving effect.) With fabulous
performances from Anjella
impersonation. Mackintosh, Wanda Opalinska
and Kristina Buikaite as the
young flying aces, and evocative
era. It’s what we fans call a ‘pure direction from Helen Goldwyn
historical’, too, which is exactly that conjures the frozen Russian
the right choice, as there’s more winter so vividly you’ll be
than enough human drama tempted to put the heating on,
at play here without Kraaarg it’s a contender for Big Finish’s
the Destroyer or whoever strongest release of the year.
stomping all over it. And that’s despite being largely
Frazer Hines, pulling devoid of the humour I have
a double shift as just argued is fundamental to
the Doctor and the very soul of Doctor Who.
Jamie, delivers How funny.
Jamie (Frazer Hines), seen here in The
Highlanders (1966-67), experiences 69
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World War Two in The Night Witches.
SHORT STORIES
Tales of
Terror
PENGUIN RRP £12.99
WRITTEN BY Jacqueline Rayner, Mike Tucker, Paul Magrs,
Richard Dungworth, Scott Handcock and Craig Donaghy
ILLUSTRATED BY Rohan Daniel Eason
D
CHILDREN’S BOOKS BBC CHILDREN’S BOOKS RRP £4.99 each
WRITTEN AND ILLUSTRATED BY Adam Hargreaves octor Who often wants to
scare its audience, and this
Dr Second, Dr Seventh, new short-story anthology

– also available as a talking
book from BBC Audio –
Dr Eighth, Dr Ninth
features a dozen adventures
designed to do just that. We get gruesome
discoveries, shocking twists and perilous
T
situations as well as macabre motifs such
he biggest problem for books These books function perfectly as charming, as foreboding forests, masks and disguises,
in this Range With No Name ironic, post-modern, nostalgic kitsch to dolls, circuses and fairs. But there’s also
is what to call them. Branding comfort the middle-aged against a threatening a sense of playfulness – think classic fairy
gurus maintain that both universe where things such as fidget spinners tales, which combine the familiar with the
Dr Mister and Mr Doctor are and ITV2 are allowed to exist. Surely rigorous bizarre. Twelve stories, one per Doctor, are
incorrect. Thus I offer Dr Nth scientific tests would also prove the tales can shared out between six writers.
where n is a positive integer. be read to toddlers as yet too young to operate The opener, Jacqueline Rayner’s excellent
Adam Hargreaves is a master of brevity. A Dr their first iPhone without any worrying Murder in the Dark, sets the spooky tone.
Nth narrative sees stuff happen and then – after side-effects. As such, they hit both target The First Doctor, Dodo and Steven stumble
16 pages and bold illustrations in primary, audiences admirably, and if the biggest issue across a strange fancy-dress party where the
secondary and even tertiary colours – stuff is a handy nomenclature to refer to them by, guests are playing schoolyard games. The
stops happening. The economy of words makes then that’s really no barrier to enjoyment at all. situation is a great mix of fun and scares, and
a 1970s Dr Who Annual text story read like War ANDREW PIXLEY the story has a clear affection for the original
and Peace. Two of these new tales offer clear life television era and its characters. Later on,
lessons on the joy of sharing and compromise,
and how things are never as boring as they Of note is Dr Ninth, Rayner also provides Trick or Treat, which
is a nightmarish time for the Sixth Doctor
may seem. Another is something to do with
cabbages. The fourth is simply daft – an
a take on what – but a fun time for the reader as it contains
some smart, post-modern jokes about
ingredient essential for success in both the might have happened Doctor Who itself.
Doctor Who and Mr Men franchises.
Of particular note is Dr Ninth, an alternative
if Doctor Who’s Elsewhere, there are crises aboard the
TARDIS and in the Time Vortex; paintings
take on what might have happened if Doctor 2005 comeback had and mirrors that are more than they seem;
Who’s 2005 comeback had been produced in
the charming style of the 1970s Mr Men been produced in Ouija boards and witches; and a handful
of famous monsters. The stories are also
cartoons. This action-packed tale reads like
a half-remembered account of Rose, committed
the charming style accompanied by some distinctive illustrations
from Rohan Daniel Eason that beautifully
to paper the morning after the plot of that of the 1970s evoke old-fashioned children’s books.
reboot episode had been related by a colleague
at a party.
Mr Men cartoons. But the standouts are the two entries by
Paul Magrs. The Stranger Things-esque The
Monster in the Woods sees an alien stranded
in the 1970s Britain
of Crossroads, David
Bowie and being
home for tea,
while Organism
96 has the Eighth
Doctor encounter
a monster on
a cruise ship. Like
all the other stories,
each is a ghoulish,
creepy or downright
frightening yarn
that is best read
after dark.
IAN FARRINGTON

REFERENCE BOOK
The Book of
Whoniversal
Doctor Who’s co-creator Sydney
Newman, pictured in the 1960s.
Records MEMOIR
ECW PRESS RRP £17.99
WRITTEN BY Sydney Newman,
BBC BOOKS RRP £16.99 WRITTEN BY Simon Guerrier Graeme Burk
I Head of
f you’re reading this, then there’s
a fair chance you’re a Doctor Who fan.
If you’re a Doctor Who fan, then there’s
Drama
a fair chance you enjoy revelling in
the minutiae of the show – the facts
and figures, the oddities and extremes.
And if you’re a fan of the minutiae of Doctor Who,
S
then this is the book for you.
A spoof of the annual Guinness World Records ydney Newman would have been
series, this handsome tome features page after 100 on 1 April 2017. He was
page of eclectic interestingness. Author Simon BBC Television’s Head of Drama
Guerrier has trawled through all 54 years of Group from 1963 to 1967, and
Doctor Who history to assemble an impressive instrumental in creating Doctor
range of the ‘wildest, maddest and most exciting Who. His promotion of Verity
records’ imaginable. Some are clear-cut and/or Lambert to producer of the series was just one
statistical, while others need some explanation,
but we learn things as diverse as ‘The largest
of many insights he had into other people’s
talents. Newman’s memoir, written in 1986-87,
The life Newman
the TARDIS ever gets while still a police box’ has now been brought to print in a fascinating describes could have
and which story holds the record for ‘The most
different species in one episode’. It’s great,
new book by Graeme Burk, supported by Burk’s
own archival research.
been written by one
well-written, page-turning fun, helped by plenty Newman’s manuscript leaves him heading of his kitchen-sink
of photos and a bold, colourful design.
The book covers events both inside the
home for Canada in 1970. Burk’s account
of Newman’s time heading the National playwrights.
fiction of Doctor Who and behind the scenes, Film Board of Canada in the early 1970s is
so alongside a discussion of who’s the saddening. Burk argues for his achievements childhood poverty, a battle with his ancestral
earliest-born person to ever appear in the there, despite Newman’s failure to grasp the Jewish faith, youthful communism, a war spent
show will be a judgement on who’s the most implications of bureaucratic and cultural in government propaganda, and love affairs
destructive companion. Occasionally, entire change in his native land. conducted in log cabins or under cutting-room
spreads are given over to one topic – such as an Burk also looks at Newman’s relationship with benches, the last with his wife Betty. Young
awful accident on the set of Battlefield (1989) or Doctor Who after 1963. There’s a glimpse of an Sydney Nudelman – a surname that’s one of
Doctor Who’s association with the Olympic ambitious plan from the 1960s and a brief but many biographical revelations – apparently
Games – but most pages pack in a panoply influential involvement with the first edition of regarded the police phone box at the end of his
of pleasing peculiarities. the seminal reference book The Making of Doctor street as an important landmark. It’s probably
Guerrier also mixes his facts with a handful of Who (1972). By the time of Newman’s struggle a knowing reference to Doctor Who by the
interviews and an extensive list of the real-world with the BBC for a creator’s credit in the 1980s, older Newman, but the TARDIS’ dimensional
awards (BAFTAs, Hugos and the like) that the he’d already exercised more influence over how transcendence is a good metaphor for an
show has won over the years. Whether read we write Doctor Who’s history than he knew. imagination which found large opportunities
cover-to-cover or by leafing through randomly, The life Newman describes could have where others saw small ones.
this is a tremendous book. IAN FARRINGTON been written by his kitchen-sink playwrights: MATTHEW KILBURN
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The Pat Troughton Years

& The Tom Baker Years
T
here’s little like the deaths of stuffed with quotes from his
an era’s primary players to put co-stars, as well as director
into sharp focus how long ago Barry Letts, Victor Pemberton,
a period in Doctor Who was. It producer Derrick Sherwin and
seems only yesterday that we one-time Head of Drama
were popping the corks for Shaun Sutton (“Pat looked like
the 50th anniversary of the first episode and a 1,000-year-old leprechaun,”
now here we are in 2017 looking at the 50th he notes). There’s also some
birthday of The Tomb of the Cybermen. The era of rare convention footage of
the Second Doctor, Patrick Troughton, is half Troughton, recorded in Brighton
a century old now; if Troughton himself were in 1985, the misty black-and-
still alive, he’d have blown out 97 candles this white quality of which serves only
year. And 2017 has seen two of his era’s biggest to add to the enigma of the man. Nick Briggs is on more flirtatious form with
names – actress Deborah Watling (who played Marter’s Baker-era cohort Elisabeth Sladen
Victoria) and writer Victor Pemberton – pass on (Sarah Jane Smith), who accompanies him to
to that giant TARDIS in the sky. What’s most The Time Warrior’s Peckforton Castle, and with
Luckily for us, Reeltime Pictures has been
issuing its video one-on-ones for long enough
fascinating about all Mary Tamm (the first Romana) who returns
to the Rollright Stones from The Stones of Blood.
now that we can see and listen to actors who these interviews is Also included are vintage conversations with
have long since left us. The Pat Troughton Years
collects together most of its Troughton-era the little flashes they John Leeson (the voice of K9) and Louise
Jameson (Leela).
chats. There’s a treasurable 60 minutes with
the late Michael Craze, an extraordinarily
give us into how What’s most fascinating about all these
interviews is the little flashes they give us into
gentle soul who talks warmly of his time as Ben Doctor Who was how Doctor Who was made way back then. It’s
Jackson and his Doctor Who double act with
Anneke Wills, who played Polly. There’s
made way back then. difficult to imagine the off-camera hi-jinks of
the Troughton era being tolerated now without
also a joyful interview with Deborah HR storming onto the set, clipboard in hand
Watling. It’s poignant to see her here, Although Reeltime failed to get (“We debagged her one day and chased her
so young and with her Doctor Who Patrick Troughton, the company round the church hall,” Frazer Hines says
life so recent in her memory; even somehow managed to convince of welcoming Debbie Watling to the cast) or
more so when she’s joined by her Fourth Doctor Tom Baker to record hearing about the three leads staging a sit-down
late father, Jack (Professor Edward an interview when his relationship strike because of weekend working hours.
Travers from the two Yeti stories). with Doctor Who was at its most Sometimes, 50 years ago feels more like 100.
Anneke Wills is here too, in strained. It’s the centrepiece of The STEVE O’BRIEN
a film from 1986 which sees her Tom Baker Years and sees Baker in
and presenter Nicholas Briggs fine storytelling form, The Tom Baker Years features
traipsing around her old revisiting the village a rare interview with Ian
Norfolk haunts. It’s of East Hagbourne, Marter, seen here as Harry
Sullivan in The Sontaran
a typically freewheeling Oxfordshire, 14 years
Experiment (1975).
Anneke yak from on from The Android
one of the convention Invasion, and
circuit’s most flirting shamelessly
intoxicating with its baffled
raconteurs, taking residents.
in such heady Just as priceless
topics as the Black is the interview
Death, meditation, with Ian Marter,
spirituality, house who played Harry
renovations and Sullivan opposite
kitchens. God Tom. Taped just three
bless her. weeks before his death at
There are interviews the tragically young age of
included with Frazer 42, he talks as much about
Hines (Jamie) and Wendy his post-Harry life as a
Padbury (Zoe) as well, Target Books author as his
but sadly Reeltime never time as UNIT’s medical
managed to persuade officer. When asked what
Patrick Troughton Patrick Troughton he’s most proud of in his
himself to record a Myth as the Doctor in writing career, he smiles
a publicity shot
Makers. To compensate, from Episode One
and says, “All the swear
there’s a satisfyingly of The Power of words that I put in.”
candid documentary the Daleks (1966). Fella, you’re missed.

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Life from A-Z is published this month. The
memoir contains stories of Matt’s life and
work on Little Britain, Come Fly with Me, 11 12 13
Bridesmaids, Les Miserables, Alice in Wonderland,

Shooting Stars and, of course, Doctor Who. 14
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have read, because it comes in the form of an A-Z,’ 15 16 17 18
writes Matt. ‘For instance, B is for Baldy! – which is

what people used to shout at me in the playground 19 20 21
(not much fun), G is for Gay (because I’m an actual

22 23
real-life gay) and T is for
the TARDIS (because I’m
a companion in Doctor
Who now). You get the
24 25 26
sort of thing.’
Little Me: My Life
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now, priced £20. DWM
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upcoming Doctor Who releases...
BOOKS BBC BOOKS RRP £35 RELEASED 26 OCTOBER
WRITTEN BY GEORGE MANN, CAVAN SCOTT, JUSTIN RICHARDS
Dalek: The Astounding Untold History

of the Greatest Enemies of the Universe
F
rom the very first scream
of Barbara, the very first
approach of that whisk
and plunger, that eye-stalk
and pepper-pot frame, the Daleks
have thrived on mystery. Just look
at them – so alien and strange.
Where did they come from? What
is their story? Much like the Doctor
himself, Doctor Who has dipped in
and out of their history; its stories
merely snapshots of a greater one.
But in Dalek, the new book from
George Mann, Cavan Scott and
Justin Richards, those snapshots
have now been arranged into a
bigger, more coherent picture – into
one immense, chronological history.
“It brings together everything
we know about the Doctor’s
greatest foes into a huge narrative,”
explains George Mann. “So we’re
looking at Daleks from their
conception through to their distant
future, via all the twisting timelines
and contradictory accounts we’ve
seen to date. It took a fair amount
of research and ironing out!
Delving into the detail was the real established chronology/mythology empires and terrible wars. I think as proto-invasion tale Abduction
challenge, ironing out the different than I’d imagined from consuming it gave me more of a sense of the by Paul Magrs; behind-the-scenes
creation myths, working out the it piecemeal over the years, and it’s Daleks having a proper civilisation, articles on their evolving designs
sequence of events, dealing with a credit to all the creatives involved rather than just being enemies of and impact on pop culture; and
the UNIT dating controversy and that it does actually fit into a cogent the Doctor.” stunning
then looking at how the Time whole (with a few wrinkles!). It’s Described by illustrations by
War had impacted on the overall a bit like Edward Gibbon’s The George as an Dalek spans concept artist
narrative, too. History of the Decline and Fall of the “oversized over 300 Alex Fort, who
“It made me
realise that there’s
Roman Empire, in a sense – a tale
of death, destruction, great
coffee-table book”,
Dalek spans over
enormous has brought
to life unseen
more of an 300 enormous pages, and is moments from
pages, and is
inspired by the
inspired by the Dalek history.
“One of my
classic Dalek classic Dalek favourite parts
annuals of annuals of the of illustrating
the 1960s
and 70s. This
1960s and 70s. the book was
recreating a
means that as ruined Skaro,”
well as being an account of the says Alex. “The scene depicts
Daleks’ fictional history, the book the Daleks as slave masters,
also serves as a general celebration excavating Skaro for the remains
– a variety show of different of Davros. I wanted the image
features. These include original to have an Egyptian feel, and
comics, such as Mann’s Time War there’s a deliberate nod to a
story Ambush; short stories, such scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

BOOKS BBC BOOKS RRP £20 RELEASED 2 NOVEMBER
100 Illustrated
Dalek contains many
Adventures
I
new illustrations by
Alex Fort, including n December last year, “It’s really hard to choose
this one of Davros and Puffin Books launched a favourite,” says Gabby, “but
(opposite page) a spread a competition for Doctor I love Chloe Rose’s drawing for
of a devastated Skaro. Who fans – both amateur The Doctor’s Wife: the choice of
and professional alike – to have composition, with Idris facing the
Thematically, civilisations in ruins their art featured in 100 Illustrated Doctor in their goodbye scene, favourite worlds and stories that
are always interesting, but with Adventures, a guide to the show’s and the magical, glowing colour make them want to create fan
the addition of rusting shuttles top episodes. Gabby De Matteis, the palette perfectly captured the feel art,” explains Gabby. “It’s the
and decaying Daleks, you can’t editor in charge of putting the book of that episode for me. Having same as with writing fan-fiction or
go wrong.” together, was overwhelmed by the said that I also adore ten-year-old cosplaying. They’re all routes in for
Visually lavish and thematically response: “We had over a thousand Meg Broom’s Doctor Mysterio people to connect with the source
comprehensive, Dalek is about entries,” she says, “far more than comic cover – her likenesses of material of their favourite show
as close to essential as a book we were expecting, considering the the Twelfth Doctor and Nardole in a creative, personal way... And
on Daleks can be. But just what effort we were asking people to go really made me smile!” Doctor Who’s universe is so rich
is it about this particular foe that to! It took weeks to sift through 100 Illustrated Adventures and vast and colourful. There’s
warranted such treatment? Why them... For years I’ve wanted to does, of course, feature words: a wealth of beloved stuff that,
not the Cybermen? The Master? publish a book that celebrates all the summaries of each episode written as a fan, you can choose from
The Slitheen? beautiful art Who inspires. There’s by Doctor Who authors Jonathan to illustrate – favourite Doctors,
“I think it’s a combination of such a wealth of it out there and I Green and Justin Richards. But characters, planets, villains,
factors,” says George. “There’s the love seeing people posting their art the clue is in the name: this is, scenes. The scope of the world
iconic design, making them instantly on social media; stuff that they put primarily, a celebration of Doctor that the show inhabits makes it
recognisable. And the voice – creepy, time and energy into creating just Who’s fan art community. fertile ground for imaginative
mechanised, and unique. They came out of love for the show.” “I think it’s the emotional fans to engage with.”
at the right time, too – in those early From a list of 100 episodes, chosen connection people have with their STEPHEN KELLY
days of Doctor Who, they were the for their range and popularity, fans
first of his major alien opponents, were asked to interpret stories
and a recurring enemy during those as creatively as they could. “We
early years. I think they were judged the pieces for how well they
burned into the consciousness of captured the feel of the episode or
a whole era of fans, who then characters,” says Gabby, “rather than
fuelled that passion and terror for just choosing the highest quality or
future generations. What’s interesting most professional-looking pieces.
to me as a writer is exploring them Some entries won because they’re
not as cartoon villains, but as the beautiful pieces of fine art, others
sad remnants of a race that could because they’re just joyous, colourful
have achieved greatness, and are still celebrations of Doctor Who, or
trying desperately to cling onto that because the artists have clearly put
dream, even though they’re long so much love and attention into
past being able to achieve it. creating them.”
“They’re a melancholy race, From seven years old to “someone
really, and that makes them all the in their late 60s”, the entrants
more dangerous, too.” varied in age, professionalism and
STEPHEN KELLY style, with the winning art ranging, Chloe Rose’s drawing of Idris and the Doctor’s
“from oil paintings to plasticine goodbye scene in The Doctor’s Wife (2011).
Dalek anatomy by Alex Fort. models, from paper quilling to
charcoal drawings”. Flick through
the 200-or-so pages, for instance,
and you may be struck by the
magnificent charcoal take on
a Special Weapons Dalek, brought
to life from Remembrance of the
Daleks; or Vincent van Gogh and
Amy Pond, from Vincent and the
Doctor, done in the style of The
Starry Night; or the messy charm and
enthusiasm of a little boy’s rendering
of Rose, knowing how much
concentration must have gone into
staying within the lines.
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The Sontarans return to battle Kate Stewart
(Jemma Redgrave) in UNIT: Encounters.
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UNIT: Encounters
S
ince UNIT launched
WRITTEN BY Matt Fitton, Roy Gill,
in 2015, each four-
Andrew Smith, John Dorney
episode series has seen
STARRING
Kate Stewart, Osgood
Jemma Redgrave..................... Kate Stewart
and their team tackle a single
James Joyce................... Captain Josh Carter
threat. The fifth run, Encounters,
Ramon Tikaram..................... Colonel Shindi
is a little different.
Karina Fernandez............ Captain Gonsalves
“We’d done those very arc-based
Lucy Fleming...........................Alice Donelly
sets, and it’s always nice to have
Matthew Cottle........................ Ben Donelly
a change, so an anthology series
David Jonsson............ Corporal James Morley
seemed like the logical thing to do,”
Dan Starkey............................Marshal Skar/
explains script editor Matt Fitton.
Commander Merx/Sontaran Escapee
“It shows the range and scope of all
James Wilby.............. Professor John Torrance
the different things that UNIT has to
Beth Goddard...................... Christine Colley
deal with, week in, week out.”
Barnaby Edwards.................. Satellite voice
It begins with Matt’s The Dalek
Nicholas Briggs......................... The Daleks
Transaction, which takes the gang to
Central America.
“We have a single Dalek being Written by Roy Gill, the
offered for sale by a shadowy Hallowe’en-set Invocation is a “I was given
guerrilla group,” says Matt, “so
UNIT has to go in undercover and
spooky ghost story with ties to
Kate’s past, before another Doctor
the idea of ‘evil
pretend they’re buying it, because Who monster causes trouble for alternative
they can’t let it fall into anyone else’s the team in Andrew Smith’s The universe,
hands. Because it’s a single Dalek,
there are echoes of Rob Shearman’s
Sontaran Project.
“Sontarans are clones, and
possibly a spin-
TV episode Dalek [2005], and the cloning technology is quite a off from the
script acknowledges the fact that
something similar has happened
modern, topical thing,” notes
Andrew, “so I thought, ‘Wouldn’t
Inferno UNIT’.” where I just go, ‘How
before in the States, but hopefully it be interesting if we had human JOHN DORNEY exciting this new world is –
this story takes it in a different scientists who are carrying out somebody has a moustache!’ So
direction. It’s very badly damaged, clone research getting their hands in a little bit of her backstory’ – I was trying to find a new way of
mistreated, and gets out of its casing on a Sontaran?’ With the scientists, so it’s playing with the Sontarans, doing it; something that would
– and there’s a touch of Predator one of the first ideas I had was, cloning, and a scientist who was one grab me, something that was
about it all once it gets out into ‘Osgood’s a scientist, so maybe of Osgood’s mentors in the past.” a hook for myself.
the jungle.” there’s an opportunity here to fill False Negative features the UNIT “I think that when they gave me
of a parallel reality, recalling the the brief, they were expecting a
1970 story Inferno. sort of fast-paced thriller,” he grins.
“I was given the idea of ‘evil “What they’ve got is a comedy and
alternative universe, possibly a a farce! It’s basically our Osgood
spin-off from the Inferno UNIT’ as and Josh trapped in an alternative
a brief,” recalls writer John Dorney. universe, and all they want to do
“I’ve never been a particular fan of is get away, but they keep getting
parallel universe stories where it’s caught up in these shenanigans.
just ‘look how different our heroes It’s a funny UNIT episode, which
are!’ – I really like Inferno, but there doesn’t really happen very often!
are various other things I’ve seen DAN TOSTEVIN
David Jonsson (Corporal

James Moreley), Lucy Fleming
(Alice Donnelly) and Matthew
Cottle (Ben Donnely) are among
the cast of UNIT: Encounters.

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RELEASED NOVEMBER Flip (Lisa Greenwood), Constance (Miranda Raison)
and the Doctor visit Formicia in The Middle.
The Middle
T
he TARDIS is taking with The Middle, it really felt like
the Sixth Doctor and I had time to peel back the layers
his friends to Formicia, of the society and delve into the
where everyone’s worth characters a bit more. And I got to
and role in society is determined play with cliffhangers, which are
by their age. For 19-year-old Flip secretly my absolute favourite thing
Ramon, that means the fun and about Doctor Who! Practically,
freedom of the ‘Beginning’, while it was just a case of a lot more
Constance Clarke, who’s about to planning – I have a notebook full
turn 35, faces a of narrative dead
life of labour in WRITTEN BY Chris Chapman ends and could-
the ‘Middle’. But STARRING have-beens!
the worst news is Colin Baker.................................. The Doctor “Writing for
for the Doctor – Lisa Greenwood....................................Flip a very new
after all, he’s lived Miranda Raison..............Mrs Constance Clarke TARDIS team
for centuries… Mark Heap.............................The Middleman was exciting
“The machine Sheila Reid....................................... Janaiya too,” he says
goes haywire Wayne Forester................................ Roman of Flip and
when it tries to Hollie Sullivan.............................. Olivia York Constance, who
figure out the Chloe Rickenbach............................... Chloe each travelled
Doctor’s grand old with the Doctor
age,” smiles writer Chris Chapman, individually until recently. “I pretty
“and he’s consigned to the End, much wore out my copy of
which is very bad news for him as Quicksilver [2016] trying to get
he appears to have wandered into a handle on their chemistry as
some mass euthanasia programme. a pairing and where the Doctor
“To me, The Middle was fits in! I love how clear they both
an opportunity to write about are as characters, which makes
mortality,” Chris explains, “and them a great contrast with each
particularly how we perceive the other. But, as with Quicksilver,
elderly. In real life, I was spending I wanted to find the positives in
a lot of time with my 94-year-old
grandpa, now passed on, and had
their differences.” “The Middle was
filmed a six-hour interview with him an opportunity
about his life and times – including to write about
plenty of good war stories, as he
was on the Normandy beaches in
mortality and The guest cast
includes Sheila
1944. He was still incredibly active particularly how Reid – recently
and capable as a nonagenarian:
a huge social life, great memory,
we perceive Clara Oswald’s
gran in TV Doctor
and he’d just bought a new the elderly.” Who – as Janaiya,
car! It made me think a lot CHRIS CHAPMAN while Friday Night
about how we sometimes Dinner’s Mark Heap
underestimate the older plays the passive-
generation, and what aggressive Middleman.
they’re truly capable “I’ve wanted Mark Heap in a Big
of. That all fed into Finish story for ages,” says director
the story.” Jamie Anderson, “because he’s
The Middle is Chris’ amazing and funny and sinister,
first four-episode and that’s exactly what the
Doctor Who script, Middleman required. Mark
following the just has a way of delivering
success of his 2016 the most simple line and – by
single-parter The changing the inflection at the
Memory Bank. The end of the sentence, or the
extra length, he says, rhythm, in a way you wouldn’t
allowed him to dive expect – suddenly making it
deep into Formicia. absolutely terrifying. Janaiya needed
“With The Memory somebody who could put softness
Bank, I was sort of trying Guest stars Mark Heap and warmth together with a fighting
(the Middleman) and
to cram a four-parter into Sheila Reid (Janaiya)
spirit, and I could think of no better
30 minutes, so it was fairly join Colin Baker (the person to do that than Sheila – she’s
frantic,” he reflects, “but Doctor) in The Middle. just a legend.” DAN TOSTEVIN
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RELEASED NOVEMBER a workhouse, but is on the
make as well, so he’s not
The Morton Legacy above a bit of thievery and

burglary, and he’s got his eye
on Morton’s collection. And
T
he Second Doctor, Ben, like doing things that are set in Dexter is his lackey, really –
Polly and Jamie are off to museums or collections.” second-in-command of the
Victorian London. “It’s about a man called Josiah workhouse, and very much
“I did a couple of Morton,” explains Frazer Hines, under Copeland’s thumb.”
different outlines before we settled who voices Jamie and the Doctor. “Our main plot is to try and
on this story,” says Justin Richards, “He lives in a big, old house, and get back to the TARDIS, and
writer of The Morton Legacy. “There he’s got a museum of artefacts get it out,” adds Anneke Wills, got nothing. So the enemies,
was one on another planet, in a from South America and Africa and who narrates and plays Polly, “but the villains of the piece, can get
city full of robots, but they wanted various other places. He nicks the various people keep getting bumped people to do things that they don’t
something more down-to-Earth, TARDIS, because he thinks it’s a off and it then becomes, in a way, necessarily wish to do. There’s an
and I suppose I was thinking vaguely very interesting a real Victorian awful lot about it that addresses
about Bleak House, with the court artefact.” WRITTEN BY Justin Richards melodrama – what’s involved in serving people,
case that goes on forever, so it all “But Josiah’s STARRING the manservant, and how much of that is voluntary
grew from there – and I always got a problem,” Anneke Wills........................Polly Wright/Narrator all the people or involuntary, and how it pays off.”
Justin explains. Frazer Hines............. Jamie McCrimmon/The Doctor in the “It doesn’t need a lot of
Anneke Wills plays Polly “He inherited Elliot Chapman............................... Ben Jackson workhouse, setting up, because most people
in The Morton Legacy. David Sibley................................. Josiah Morton
this collection that sort understand Victorian London,”
of bits and Kerry Gooderson......................... Jemma Morton of thing.” points out Justin. “They have an
pieces years Ewan Bailey............................ Blazzard/Copeland “It gets image of it in their heads, whether
ago, and the Alan Blyton............................................ Dexter really quite from history lessons or from
will he inherited Dickensian,” Sherlock Holmes – or from Doctor
it under is being contested by says Elliot Chapman, who plays Ben, Who! But this is a bit more of the
somebody else. There are strange “because you do really get that underbelly, I suppose – the seamier
and mysterious deaths related to sense of the social and economic side of Victorian London. I hope
the case, which may or may not be disparities of Victorian London, it’s atmospheric, and a bit of
anything to do with Morton himself. and how certain people can be a mystery, and an adventure!”
There are a couple of villains: manipulated because they’ve just DAN TOSTEVIN
written by Julian Richards and read want his adventures to be like at

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RELEASED NOVEMBER by Matthew, explores the impact of this point?’ He’s nostalgic all the
that regeneration further. way through, and there are lots of
The Ingenious Gentleman “It wasn’t something I’d ever

given much thought to before,”
fragments of half-remembered bits
of earlier stories scattered through
Adric of Alzarius Julian admits, “but it didn’t take
WRITTEN BY Julian Richards

much thinking to
come upon it, once
that are part of Adric recalling those
things. It builds to a realisation that
it wasn’t the perfect golden age
W
hen Adric first time the Doctor does READ BY. Matthew Waterhouse I knew that I was that he’s built it up to be in his mind,
started travelling something, the boy writing for Adric. that was ruined forever when the
in the TARDIS, he mimics it, so there is that If you look at the E-Space stories Doctor changed.”
was dazzled by hero-worship element.” and The Keeper of Traken, he is But this is Doctor Who, so that
the Fourth Doctor. “He’s this But after just a handful of very happy at how things are, and realisation is arrived at via a romantic
15-year-old boy who flees from his adventures, the Doctor changed. he’s bumbling along joyously – but fantasy adventure complete with
planet to follow Doctor Who, so he “When that happens, there’s this then Tegan and Nyssa turn up, and actual dragons.
sort of hero-worships him,” says great sense of loss,” suggests the Doctor changes, and it all goes “Adric is scientific, Adric gets
Matthew Waterhouse, who played Matthew. “For this young boy, his wrong for him. frustrated,” says Julian, “so
the role, “and stories like [1981’s] hero has bit the dust. It’s a shock, “So the basic principle for this I thought, ‘What would most
The Keeper of Traken, of course, and there’s a story was, ‘What surprise and confuse Adric? Right,
make that pretty clear – every sense that the
new Doctor
“It builds to a does Adric actually okay, Adric’s meeting a dragon!
Adric will object to its existence
is almost this realisation that all the way through, and we can
intruder who
doesn’t really
it wasn’t the have the grumbling, frustrated Adric
that we know and love!’”
belong there. perfect golden DAN TOSTEVIN
There is a age that he’s
yearning in Adric
for a return to
built it up to be
what he had in his mind.”
known, and the JULIAN RICHARDS
reason that he
had fled his own
planet in the first place.”
The Ingenious Gentleman
Adric of Alzarius, a short story
Writer Julian Richards with Matthew

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TOP TEN
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▲ BOKGAMMON ▲
▼ LOGOPOLY ▼
▲ FLAVIAL PURSUIT ▲
▲ BUCKARUTAN! ▲
▼ KALEDS AGAINST HUMANITY ▼
The page that is not something to be ▼ HUNGRY HIPPIAS ▼
shuffled off onto some stray boffin, you know. BY THE WATCHER ▲ CHINESE CHACAWS ▲
▼ SPEELSNAPES AND LADDERS
▼
appears in the foreground, obligingly in Terror of the Autons, which offers such ▼ CONNECT FOUR TO DOOMSDAY
▼
A History of
dressed with a brick for the Doctor to oddities as a criss-crossed pair of African ▼ YAHTZEE, DICE GAME
OF THE ALIEN VOORD ▼
karate-chop. But one enticing detail remains spears, a trio of toy aircraft, a framed photo
from the ceiling of a biplane, a wallchart illustrating the
Doctor Who
consistent : suspended
towards the rear of the human digestive system, and –
set, gazing down on hold on, what’s that above the
window by the door? Rotating
events as they unfold WHAT A LOAD
in 100 Objects...
slowly in the studio breeze, its
across all ten episodes, is
mouth frozen in a permanently OF RUBEISH
a small stuffed crocodile.
Crocodilia is an surprised ‘O’, bearing silent The puzzled professor examines
There’s something
witness to some of the story’s the oldest material in the cosmos.
_______________ #87 _______________ order of the animal fishy behind this…
kingdom which sheds most dramatic moments (check
THE DOCTOR’S PUFFERFISH an unexpected light on our hero. Why does out its “Well I never” expression just after
he have a stuffed crocodile in his lab? the Brigadier rescues the Doctor from the
Pressed to nominate something that flex), is – wait for it –
One might as well ask why Hieronymous Nestene telephone
symbolises Doctor Who, a pufferfish might
has one in his study in The Masque of a stuffed pufferfish.
not spring immediately to mind – but bear
Mandragora, and why there’s another Even the most casual observer might,
with me. At the opening of Listen, the
in Leonardo da Vinci’s studio in City of at this point, be wondering whether the
Doctor delivers a soliloquy in which he
Death. Really. Look closely and you’ll spot Third Doctor harbours some sort of hitherto
ponders “perfect hunters”, and watches a
them. Don’t assume that a succession of undocume nted taxidermy fixation. Could
lioness bringing down a wildebeest. Next he
BBC set designers just grabbed the this explain the human body chart, the
considers “perfect defence”, and
croc at random. What renders the skull, and the fact that Liz Shaw disappears VERDICT:
we see a pufferfish inflating “Pardon?”
reptile relevant is that Leonardo, so suddenly? Unlikely – but then again,
THE Six Faces OF

like a balloon and extruding
Hieronym ous and the Doctor so is the coincidence that Doctor Who’s
its spines. Interestingly, this
most significant agglomerations of stuffed
DELUSION
is not the first time that the himself are all, on some level,
associated with the occult science of animals belong in the collections of The
humble Tetraodon cutcutia has
alchemy. In the Middle Ages, a stuffed Web of Fear’s Julius Silverstein and Ghost
appeared in Doctor Who. Not
crocodile was one of the alchemist ’s staple Light’s Josiah Smith, disclosing a curious The Doctor’s UNIT lab harbours many
by a long chalk – but first things first.
props, akin to a witch’s familiar. Dangling correlation between taxidermy and the secrets. Which five of the following
In order to unpack the hitherto unexplored
from the ceiling in the Doctor’s lab, our initials ‘J.S.’ which the Third Doctor’s choice are true, and which one is about to
topic of the emblematic significance
croc reflects this arcane association, of pseudonym does little to dispel. No, let’s explode hilariously and leave him with
of pufferfish in Doctor Who, we must
hinting at the Doctor’s mystical powers not go there – let’s return instead to the a sooty face?
temporarily allow the little fellow to swim
as the human Twelfth Doctor’s choice of the pufferfish
away; we’ll catch up with him again in a few and scientific brilliance – just Answer revealed at
skull glimpsed on another shelf in Planet as an examplar of “perfect defence”, and
paragraphs’ time. the bottom of the page.
of the Spiders plays the role of a medieval consider the fact that puffing up and getting
Another inadequately explored
spiky is precisely what the Doctor – and
phenomenon is the regularity with which
the Doctor’s UNIT laboratory changes
scholar’s memento
story’s climax.
mori, foreshado wing the
especially the Third Doctor – does when 1 The Moroks’
freezing machine
Exploratio ns of other UNIT lab threatened. Terror of the Autons contains a from The Space
its appearance. No two stories feature
decorations, from the fetching array of textbook instance in his stand-off with the Museum appears
an identical lab – not even Planet of
porcelain ornament s in The Ambassad ors of pompous Mr Brownrose. So there we have in the Doctor’s lab in
the Spiders and Robot, in which several symbolism in Spearhead from Space.
fixtures regenerate along with the Doctor. Death to the mysterious graph adorned with it: a brief history of pufferfish
The Three Doctors Doctor Who.
2 Colony
Decluttering occurs on the shelving to the three zig-zaggin g lines in The lab in the final scene of
left, while atop the bureau to the right, a (possibly the lead actors’ respective viewing in Space has a completely
figures), must wait for another day. At IN A NUTSHELL: If you look hard enough, different configuration of walls from
mirror conveniently materialises so that
present let’s focus on the most intriguingly there’s always something hidden in the lab in the first episode.
the new Doctor can admire his face in it.
dressed lab of them all, namely the one plain sight.
Benches migrate, and a brand new one
3 panels
One of Tobias Vaughn’s control
from The Invasion appears
in the Doctor’s lab in Spearhead
from Space.
SUPPORTING jolly warlike, and we don’t want anything

undermining that. For example, you
Okay, super. Everybody ready? Stand by.
And… Action!” 4 inA painting from Trenchard’s office
ARTIST of the month there at the back. Yes, you. Alien guard
chappie behind Philip Madoc. I see
The Sea Devils appears in the
Doctor’s lab in The Time Monster.
“Okay studio, listen up. Message from Mr
Maloney in the gallery. This is one of the
you’re not quite ready yet. Well,
don’t leave it to the last minute, there’s 5 from
The principal Cyber-spaceship
The Invasion appears in the
most important scenes in The War Games – a good fellow. We don’t want you Doctor’s lab in Spearhead from Space.
it’ll start at about 19:08 in Episode Seven, hastily pulling down your eye-mask
give or take – and it’s the bit where the and shouldering your weapon after 6 vanishes
The Third Doctor’s cape discreetly
from the hat-stand
War Lord chastises the War Chief in the War I shout ‘Action’, do we? That’d between the first and second lab
Room, so one way or another it’s pretty be a frightful blunder, wouldn’t it? scenes in Robot.
fresh paint job in the Primitive City in Colony in Space.)
It certainly gets around: a year later it turns up again with a
82 DOCTOR WHO MAGAZINE is that big blue thing standing beside the TARDIS in Spearhead.
The others are all true. (In case you’re wondering, the Cyber-ship
The Six Faces of Delusion: Number 4 is the failed experiment.
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