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sidco
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07-08-2009 10:15 AM
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What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale :

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Can anyone help what the correct text height should be for 1 100 metric scale And
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is there a link that refers to text height and different metric scale units?

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*C Witt
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07-08-2009 11:54 AM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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The correct height is whatever hight you want it to be ...

And when in paperspace the scale doesn t matter because paperspace

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should always be 1 1 : ).

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sidco wrote :

Can anyone help what the correct text height should be for 1: 100 
metric scale? And is there a link that refers to text height and 
different metric scale units?

  

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was_saxman
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07-11-2009 07:48 PM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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metric
a fairly easy system to remember is double the scale to get the height make
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your text 200 for 1 100 similarly for any metric scale 1 10 text 20 that
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would be correct for our office

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(we also just invert the imperial scale factors 1 4 1 would call for 4 text
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height easy to remember and we get consistent text heights across all
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viewports and from all staff )

others will disagree and have other standards but it works well for us

Randy

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steve216586
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07-14-2009 08:43 AM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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1/8 text height in metric would be 3.175 mm @ 1:1 scale. Do the math. How hard is
this I don t understand the education system if people can t do a simple ratio
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conversion Is this type of question laziness or incompetence Do you even know

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many mm are in an inch and vice versa ?

If you don t own a calculator try this site http www unit
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conversion info length html Or find a new job like Wal Mart greeter where math
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isn t at such a premium

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was_saxman
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07-14-2009 11:30 AM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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really is that your response to my post
?... I was offering the OP an easy system
?........

that can be used to achieve some consistency in an office and you reply with a
rude sarcastic and unecessary response aren t you the professional
, ....... '

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steve216586
Advisor

07-14-2009 01:24 PM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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Aren t you the Paranoid Schizophrenic If you look closely my post was to the OP
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not to you My response is directly below yours not indented like this one will be
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when I select Post Message Oh I also noticed there is a quaint feature called the
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"In Response to area which identifies who the response is directed towards In
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your haste to chastise someone you must have missed that right Now I must ask
, , ?

you Who is the professional

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I don t think my post was rude sarcastic or otherwise I provided a link to a useful
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site for length conversion I did give the correct metric text height commonly used
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in drafting 1 8th at 1 1 scale I also offered advice if the OP didn t feel purchasing
( / ) : . , '

the most simplistic tools calculator of the drafting or engineering trade were
( )

necessary Conversion from imperial to metric is a simple task which most math
.

oriented professionals should be able to accomplish I did ask a poignant question .

as to the education techniques and levels of those in the drafting field .

Upon further reading your solution was the most unprofessional You basically
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threw normal accepted drafting convention to the wind and contended any size is
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appropriate as long as it is consistant This is just not the case I would be in error
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if I directed my staff to use 1 or 1 64 text height for all documents based on

" / "

convenience and not presentation value or adherence to reviewing authority

guidelines Just because it is close enough and easy to remember doesn t make
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it right .

By your method you are basicaly using text somewhere in between 1 16 and 1 8
, / " / "

but not consistantly 3 32 when used at larger scales Boy that makes sense to
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me What was I thinking

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 smjgsmith
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07-14-2009 11:16 PM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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Thickness of line mm Height of letters mm
( ) ( )

0.18 1.8
0.25 2.5
0.35 3.5
0.50 5.0
0.70 7.0
1.00 1.0

If drawing in model space at 1 100 you would multiply the text height by the scale
:

i e 3 5 x 100 350
. . . =

Edited by smjgsmith on Jul 15 2009 4 17 PM Edited by smjgsmith on Jul 15 2009

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4 18 PM :

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steve216586
Advisor

07-15-2009 07:47 AM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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metric
smjgsmith

I never heard of line wt determining text height Out of curiosity where did you
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get this information I would be very interested in knowing as it seems very

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logical My only concern would be in civil design the existing information is

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usually a thinner lw than the proposed Would that mean there would be two
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different text heights I could imagine it would work very well for cover pages and
?

etc as a general rule .

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smjgsmith
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07-15-2009 12:06 PM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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It came from an old Australian standard SAA MH2 Metric Data For Building
Designers It was mainly based on pen thickness and available lettering stencils
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I just checked AS1100 1 Technical Drawing and it recommends the following

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For A0 B1 sheet sizes

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Titles drawing numbers 7 0mm

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Subtitles headings view section designations 5 0mm

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General notes material lists dimensions 3 5mm

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For A1 A2 A3 A4 B2 B3 B4 sheet sizes
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Titles drawing numbers 5 0mm

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Subtitles headings view section designations 3 5mm

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General notes material lists dimensions 2 5mm

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These sizes are for uppercase For lower case combinations it recommends going
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one size larger than specified .

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jackshield
Collaborator

07-16-2009 11:35 AM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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metric
i agree with steve on this IT IS A SIMPLE RATIO if the OP knew what standard
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text height was to begin with he she could do the simple math if i was his her
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supervise and saw this post I d have a vacancy to fill

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TO CALL YOURSELF A DRAFTER BASIC MATH AND GEOMETRY MUST BE WITHIN ,

YOUR UNDERSTANDING .

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 *Craig P. Black
Archived Account

07-20-2009 11:31 AM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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metric
your reply was a way to calc text height in model space, and appeared to
assume a desired plotted height of 2mm ...

but what do I know ? :)

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So self absorbed and egotistical it s like those

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hip musicians with their complicated shoes !

wrote in message news 6218487 discussion autodesk com

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really is that your response to my post

?... I was offering the OP an
?........

easy system that can be used to achieve some consistency in an office and
you reply with a rude sarcastic and unecessary response
, aren t you
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the professional

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Randy_Culp
Collaborator
07-21-2009 08:02 AM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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metric
Looking at the thread title Is the text in Paperspace
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What height would you like the finished text after plot Edited by randyculp5621
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on Jul 21 2009 1 54 PM
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Randy_Culp
Collaborator

07-21-2009 02:20 PM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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metric
He may be a student or someone trying to teach themselves the tool How many
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posting here used a cheat sheet when they were starting out before they learned
,

the ratio??

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If the text is in Paperspace make it the height you want it to plot like 4mm
, , .

If the text is in Modelspace bad idea in my most humble opinion and you want it
( )

to plot 4mm high then you need to think about it a little

;

Concept :
If the plot scale is 1 100 you re shrinking everything by a factor of 100 to fit it on
: '

the plot right So to end up with text that is 4mm high you have to start with text
, ?

that s 400mm high 4x100 400

' =

Scale of 1 25 ending with 4mm text needs to start with 100mm text 4x25 100
: =

Scale of 1 50 ending with 4mm text needs to start with 200mm text 4x50 200
: =

Scale of 1 200 ending with 4mm text needs to start with 800mm text 4x200 800
: =

Now if you want your text to plot at some other height like 2 5 .

Scale of 1 100 ending with 2 5mm text needs to start with 250mm text 2 5x100 250
: . . =

Scale of 1 25 ending with 2 5mm text needs to start with 62 5mm text 2 5x25 62 5
: . . . = .

I d use 63 but that s me

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Scale of 1 50 ending with 2 5mm text needs to start with 125mm text 2 5x50 125
: . . =

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Imperial units are a little flakier because the factor isn t readily visible in the scale ' .

1 4 1 0 is the same as 1 4 12 is the same as 1 48 or mathematically 12 0 25

/ " = '- " / " = " : , / .

= 48
So on a drawing with a scale of 1 4 12 you want a plotted text height of 1 8 / " = " / "

you need to start at 6 high 0 125x48 6 " ( . = )

Scale 1 2 1 0 12 0 5 24 ending with 1 8 text needs to start with 3 high text

/ " = '- " ( / . = ) / " "

0 125x24 3
. =

Scale 3 8 1 0 12 0 375 32 ending with 1 8 text needs to start with 4 high

/ " = '- " ( / . = ) / " "

text 0 125x32 4
. =

Now if you prefer plotted text at 1 10 inch like we do / ( )

Scale 1 2 1 0 12 0 5 24 ending with 1 10 text needs to start with 2 4 high

/ " = '- " ( / . = ) / " . "

text 0 1x24 2 4
. = .

Scale 3 8 1 0 12 0 5 32 ending with 1 10 text needs to start with 3 2 high

/ " = '- " ( / . = ) / " . "

text 0 1x32 3 2
. = .

Scale 1 4 1 0 12 0 25 48 ending with 1 10 text needs to start with 4 8 high

/ " = '- " ( / . = ) / " . "

text 0 1x48 4 8
. = .
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drafter1411
Collaborator

08-27-2009 05:53 AM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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I agree And please don t undermind our blue collier workers
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Where would you be if you didn t have these people

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Modman_4
Advisor

08-28-2009 05:58 AM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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Can t we all just get along Simply find the standard recommended text height for
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paper drafting for your country region in question there should be several for
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different parts of a sheet then define your text style to be annotative and tell it
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what text height you want it to appear in paperspace Simple yesno
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I hope my info was useful but if by some odd chance it actually solved your issue
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feel free to mark your post as Accept as Solution Thanks

" ". ! :)

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jackshield
Collaborator

08-29-2009 05:24 PM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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... annotative ...

you are making the assumption user has 2008 or above?

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Modman_4
Advisor

08-30-2009 06:36 PM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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Yes Otherwise the OP would take that paper space height and apply the scale
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factor of each viewport to get the correct height to make it in modelspace --

probably creating a layer for each different scaled instance For example to view
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properly in a 1 4 1 0 viewport the scale difference would be 48 so in order to

/ " = '- " , ,

view the text at 3 32 in paperspace it would have to be 3x48 32 or 4 5 high in

/ " , ( )/ , . "

modelspace Simple yesno

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1/4" = 1'-0" means 1/4" = 12", or (4x1)/4 = (4x12), or 4/4 = 48, or 1 = 48

I hope my info was useful but if by some odd chance it actually solved your issue
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feel free to mark your post as Accept as Solution Thanks

" ". ! :)

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Randy_Culp
Collaborator

08-31-2009 02:12 PM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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or

annotate in paperspace where it belongs ;->

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 Modman_4
Advisor

09-01-2009 07:24 AM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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I annotate in paperspace but I dimension in modelspace
, :-)

So the same dilemma would apply except thank Lynn for annotative objects P !!! :-

I hope my info was useful but if by some odd chance it actually solved your issue
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feel free to mark your post as Accept as Solution Thanks

" ". ! :)

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Randy_Culp
Collaborator

09-01-2009 11:36 AM
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Re What is the correct text height in Paper space for 1 100 scale
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Dimensions are annotations ...

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... and belong in paperspace . ;-)

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