FILED

United States Court of Appeals

July 24, 2017

TENTH CIRCUIT

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

Plaintiff - Appellee,

v. No. 16-1027

SAMUEL TERRAYE WINDOM,

Defendant - Appellant.

Appeal from the United States District Court

Jacob Rasch-Chabot, Assistant Federal Public Defender (Virginia L. Grady, Federal

Bryan D. Fields, Assistant United States Attorney (Robert C. Troyer, Acting United
States Attorney, with him on the brief), Office of the United States Attorney, Denver,
Colorado, for Plaintiff-Appellee.

Before HARTZ, BALDOCK, and HOLMES Circuit Judges.

HOLMES, Circuit Judge.

Defendant-Appellant Samuel Terraye Windom entered a conditional guilty plea to

one count of being a felon in possession of a firearm, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 922(g).

firearm, arguing that officers obtained the firearm as part of an unconstitutional seizure.

More specifically, Mr. Windom takes the position that officers used unreasonable high-

risk traffic stop procedures to investigate a completed misdemeanorthat is, Mr.

Windoms flashing of a firearm in publicand submits that the unreasonable nature of

the force involved in the stop elevated it from an investigative detention to an arrest

without probable cause. Exercising jurisdiction pursuant to 28 U.S.C. 1291, we affirm

the district courts order denying Mr. Windoms suppression motion.

Mr. Windom was detained and arrested on April 1, 2015, following an incident at

Challengers Sports Bar and Restaurant (Challengers) in Aurora, Colorado. Just before

midnight on that evening, a female Challengers employee contacted the Aurora Police

Department (APD) to report that an unknown male, later identified as Mr. Windom,

had flashed a gun to bar patrons and claimed to be a Crips gang member. The employee

indicated, however, that the individualwhom she further described as a thirty-three

year-old black male, 62 or 63 tall, with braided hair, wearing jeans and a black jacket

with a cobra on the backhad not threatened or injured any patron. By the time the

employee called APD, Mr. Windom had left Challengers but remained in the parking lot

immediately outside. As the call progressed, the employee observed him getting into one

of two vehicleseither a Nissan Murano (Murano) or an older model, light blue

Cadillac sedan (Cadillac) that was immediately next to the Muranoand stated that he

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appeared to have headed westbound out of the parking lot.

APDs dispatch relayed the weapons call to several local officers, advised them

of the nature of the alleged conduct, and provided Mr. Windoms physical description.

Aplt.s Ex. A-1, at 3. The APD officers that first arrived on the scene, however, found

the Murano in the parking lot, without an individual matching Mr. Windoms description,

and the en-route officers therefore turned their attention to the other vehicle described by

the caller (i.e., the Cadillac).

APD Officer Jeremy McElroy was approaching Challengers in his patrol vehicle

when he observed a Cadillac matching the description from the call traveling in the

opposite direction approximately two miles from Challengers. Officer McElroy made a

u-turn and proceeded to follow the vehicle, and after backup arrived, he initiated a high-

risk traffic stop, R., Vol. III, at 79, based on his belief that the vehicle contained a gang

member armed with a gun, R., Suppl. Vol. I, at 19 (Tr. Mot. Hrg, dated Sept. 4,

2015). More specifically, Officer McElroy drew his weapon and pointed it at the pulled-

over Cadillac, wedged himself behind his door jamb for protection, and activated

spotlighting . . . to light the vehicle. R., Vol. III, at 7980. Meanwhile, at least two

more APD officers provided lethal cover, that is, they [too] had their guns drawn and

pointed at the Cadillac, as well as its occupants. Id. at 80. After the officers assumed

their covered positions, Officer McElroy yell[ed] for the occupants to get [their] hands

up[ and] turn the car off, and directed them [to] throw the keys out [of] the drivers side

window. R., Suppl. Vol. I, at 20.

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 Officer McElroy then ordered all of the occupants to exit the vehicle and assume

the prone positioni.e., to lie face-down on the ground with legs crossed. The driver

emerged first, and while her initial response was somewhat argumentative, she

complied with the officers instructions and assumed the prone position. Id. Mr.

Windom then emerged from the front passenger door, and Office McElroy immediately

noticed that he matched the description that the Challengers employee had provided: e.g.,

a black man, about 62 tall, with braided hair wearing a black jacket and blue jeans. Mr.

Windom assumed the prone position without objection. Finally, a third occupanta

pregnant femaleexited from one of the rear passenger doors and was ordered to get

down on her knees outside of the vehicle. Id. at 22.

Some of the officers checked the Cadillac to ensure that it had no other occupants

and then proceeded to handcuff and pat down each individual, while other officers kept

watch, providing lethal cover. Id. At that point, the officers positively identified the

male occupant as Mr. Windom, found a Smith & Wesson revolver in his pocket during

the course of a pat-down, and arrested him for the crime of disorderly conduct based on

his actions at Challengers.

On May 5, 2015, a federal grand jury in Colorado indicted Mr. Windom on one

count of being a felon in possession of a firearm, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(1).

Shortly after the Indictment, Mr. Windom moved to suppress the firearm as fruit of an

illegal seizure, arguing that the conduct of the law enforcement officers following the

traffic stop constituted an arrest of the occupants of the vehicle, including Mr. Windom,

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from the moment the officers drew their weapons and ordered the occupants to exit the

vehicle. R., Vol. I, at 59 (Mot. to Suppress Evid., filed July 6, 2015). Mr. Windom

argued that the officers use of high-risk stop techniques was unreasonable under the

circumstances, thereby converting the purported investigative detention into an arrest

without probable cause in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

Following a hearing, the district court denied the suppression motion, concluding

that the officers had reasonable and articulable suspicion that, within the Cadillac, they

would encounter an armed and dangerous individual, R., Vol. III, at 86, who identified

himself as a gang member, [had] show[n] a gun to patrons at a restaurant and bar and

[had] caus[ed] enough concern for a private citizen to call and report the matter to

police, id. at 91. In other words, although the district court recognized that the use of

force [could] elevate [an investigative] encounter to an arrest, it found the officers

display of firearms in this instance permissible without probable cause, because the

officers reasonably believe[d] that they needed firearms to protect themselves from a

potentially dangerous situation. Id. at 92.

In the aftermath of the district courts suppression decision, Mr. Windom entered a

conditional guilty plea, in which he reserved the right to appeal from that decision.

Following his plea, the district court sentenced Mr. Windom to forty-six months

imprisonment, and he brought this timely appeal.

II

Mr. Windom contends that the district court erred in denying his suppression

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motion, arguing that officers discovered the firearm during the course of an unreasonable

seizure in violation of the Fourth Amendment. Mr. Windom acknowledges that the

officers had reasonable suspicion to stop the vehicle, but he takes the position that the

officers use of force exceeded the bounds of an investigative stop, thus converting the

stop into an arrest without probable cause. Therefore, he argues, the seizure was unlawful

and the firearm that the officers subsequently discovered should be suppressed. The

government argues that based on the totality of the circumstances known to the officers at

the time of the stopnotably, their reasonable suspicion that an allegedly armed suspect

who claimed to be a gang member was in the vehiclethey were justified in taking

heightened precautionary measures during the stop.

When reviewing the denial of a motion to suppress, we view the evidence in the

light most favorable to the government, accept the district courts findings of fact unless

clearly erroneous, and review de novo the ultimate determination of reasonableness under

the Fourth Amendment. United States v. Mosley, 743 F.3d 1317, 1322 (10th Cir. 2014)

(quoting United States v. Apperson, 441 F.3d 1162, 1184 (10th Cir. 2006)); accord

United States v. Madrid, 713 F.3d 1251, 1255 (10th Cir. 2013). The only issue in this

appeal is whether the force used by the officers in seizing Mr. Windom was reasonable in

the context of an investigative detention; if not, under the circumstances present

herewhere the officers undisputedly lacked probable cause at the time they

implemented the high-risk measuresthe seizure would be unlawful because it would be

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an arrest without probable cause.

The Fourth Amendment protects [t]he right of the people to be secure in their

persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures. U.S.

CONST. amend. IV. A temporary investigative detention, such as a traffic stop,

constitutes a seizure of persons within the meaning of [the Fourth Amendment].

Madrid, 713 F.3d at 1255 (alteration in original) (quoting Whren v. United States, 517

U.S. 806, 80910 (1996)); see also United States v. Hensley, 469 U.S. 221, 226 (1985)

([S]topping a car and detaining its occupants [for investigative purposes] constitute[s] a

seizure within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment.). Generally, a seizure must be

based on probable cause. See, e.g., United States v. Whitley, 680 F.3d 1227, 1232 (10th

Cir. 2012) (Probable cause is generally required before an officer may conduct a search

or a seizure.); United States v. Harris, 313 F.3d 1228, 123334 (10th Cir. 2002) (noting

the general rule that seizures and searches be supported by probable cause).

In Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), however, the Supreme Court recognized the

narrow authority of police officers who suspect criminal activity to make limited

intrusions on an individuals personal security [i.e., to effect a seizure] based on less than

probable cause. Michigan v. Summers, 452 U.S. 692, 698 (1981). The exception to the

probable-cause requirement for limited seizures of the person recognized in Terry and its

progeny rests on a balancing of . . . competing interests to determine the reasonableness

of the type of seizure involved within the meaning of the Fourth Amendments general

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proscription against unreasonable searches and seizures. United States v. Place, 462

U.S. 696, 703 (1983) (quoting Terry, 392 U.S. at 20). The touchstone of our analysis

under the Fourth Amendment is always the reasonableness in all the circumstances of the

particular governmental invasion of a citizens personal security. Pennsylvania v.

Mimms, 434 U.S. 106, 10809 (1977) (quoting Terry, 392 U.S. at 19).

To determine the reasonableness of a particular seizure, and thus its

constitutionality, [w]e must balance the nature and quality of the intrusion on the

individuals Fourth Amendment interests against the importance of the governmental

interests alleged to justify the intrusion. Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1, 8 (1985)

(alteration in original) (quoting Place, 462 U.S. at 703); see also Summers, 452 U.S. at

700 n.12 (describing reasonablenessthe balancing of competing interestsas the

key principle of the Fourth Amendment (quoting Dunaway v. New York, 442 U.S. 200,

219 (1979) (White, J., concurring))); United States v. Moran, 503 F.3d 1135, 1141 (10th

Cir. 2007) (We determine the constitutionality of an investigatory stop by balancing the

nature and quality of the intrusion on personal security against the importance of the

governmental interests alleged to justify the intrusion. (quoting Hensley, 469 U.S. at

228)); United States v. Perdue, 8 F.3d 1455, 1462 (10th Cir. 1993) (Reasonableness is

determined by balancing the governmental interest in crime prevention against the

citizens right to be free from governmental intrusion.).

When evaluating the reasonableness of a traffic stop under Terry, we engage in a

two-part inquiryasking, first, whether the stop was justified at its inception, and

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second, whether the officers actions [were] reasonably related in scope to the

circumstances which justified the interference in the first place. Madrid, 713 F.3d at

1256 (quoting Terry, 392 U.S. at 20). Under Terrys first prong, an officer may make a

forcible stop of a person when the officer has reasonable, articulable suspicion that the

person has been, is, or is about to be engaged in criminal activity. Place, 462 U.S. at

702 (second emphasis added); see also Florida v. Royer, 460 U.S. 491, 498 (1983)

([C]ertain seizures are justifiable under the Fourth Amendment if there is articulable

suspicion that a person has committed or is about to commit a crime.); Summers, 452

U.S. at 698 n.7 (same); United States v. McHugh, 639 F.3d 1250, 1255 (10th Cir. 2011)

(An investigatory detention is justified at its inception if the specific and articulable

facts and rational inferences drawn from those facts give rise to a reasonable suspicion a

person has or is committing a crime. (quoting United States v. DeJear, 552 F.3d 1196,

1200 (10th Cir. 2009))).

Here, Mr. Windom acknowledges that the officers had reasonable suspicion to stop

the vehicle. But Mr. Windom challenges the manner in which they executed the stop,

arguing that their seizure involved such a heightened degree of force that it converted an

investigative stop into an arrest that needed to be (but was not) justified by probable

cause.1 Therefore, we focus on Terrys second inquirywhether the officers conduct

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The government urges us to find that Mr. Windom waived the argument he
pursues on appeal, which relates to the nature and scope of the investigative stopnot the
grounds for initiating the stop to begin with: [Mr. Windom] conceded [before the
district court] that the nature of the stop was reasonable given the suspected conduct, but

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was reasonably related in scope to the circumstances which justified the interference in

the first place. Madrid, 713 F.3d at 1256 (quoting Terry, 392 U.S. at 20). And, in that

regard, we center our inquiry on whether the officers use of high-risk stop techniques

was reasonable under the circumstances. See Place, 462 U.S. at 708 (examining

whether the [officers] conduct . . . was such as to place the seizure within the general

rule requiring probable cause for a seizure or within Terrys exception to that rule

(emphasis added)); see Mimms, 434 U.S. at 10809 (The touchstone of our analysis

under the Fourth Amendment is always the reasonableness in all the circumstances of the

particular governmental invasion of a citizens personal security. (quoting Terry, 392

U.S. at 19)); United States v. Hood, 774 F.3d 638, 643 (10th Cir. 2014) (In resolving the

second question, we consider whether the officers actions were consistent with a Terry

stop, or if the degree of force used transformed Defendants seizure into a de facto

arrest. (quoting Mosley, 743 F.3d at 1328)), abrogated on other grounds by Mathis v.

United States, --- U.S. ----, 136 S. Ct. 2243 (2016) (requiring courts to distinguish

argued that the stop was not justified at its inception. Aplee.s Br. at 8. According to
the government, after losing on his challenge to the stop at its inception, Mr. Windom
has now inverted his position on appeal, conceding the lawfulness of the stop at its
inception and challenging its nature and scope. Id. at 9. If Mr. Windom were in fact
advancing a different suppression theory on appeal, we could deem this argument waived.
See, e.g., United States v. Burke, 633 F.3d 984, 987 (10th Cir. 2011) (noting as to
defendants suppression challenges that none of these arguments was presented to the
district court at the suppression hearing, and they are therefore waived on appeal).
However, Mr. Windom says that the governments position is patently incorrect.
Aplt.s Reply Br. at 1. We need not resolve this dispute: even assuming, without
deciding, that Mr. Windom has not waived his scope-of-detention argument, we conclude
infra that it fails in any event on the merits.

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between statutory elements and means as the first step in the application of the categorical

approach).

As noted, [d]etermining whether the force used to effect a particular seizure is

reasonable under the Fourth Amendment requires a careful balancing of the nature and

quality of the intrusion on the individuals Fourth Amendment interests against the

countervailing governmental interests at stake. Mosley, 743 F.3d at 1329 (quoting

Graham v. Connor, 490 U.S. 386, 396 (1989)). The safety of law enforcement is a

legitimate and weighty concern, Mimms, 434 U.S. at 110; therefore, officers may use

force during a Terry-type detention to the extent that such steps [are] reasonably

necessary to protect their personal safety and to maintain the status quo during the course

of [the] stop. Novitsky v. City of Aurora, 491 F.3d 1244, 1254 (10th Cir. 2007)

(alterations in original) (quoting Hensley, 469 U.S. at 235); accord Mosley, 743 F.3d at

132829.

In evaluating the reasonableness of officers use of force we apply an objective

standard, asking whether the facts available to the officer at the moment of the

seizure . . . [would] warrant a man of reasonable caution in the belief that the action taken

was appropriate. Madrid, 713 F.3d at 1256 (alteration in original) (emphasis added)

(quoting Terry, 392 U.S. at 22); see also Mosley, 743 F.3d at 1329 (same); cf. Graham,

490 U.S. at 396 (The reasonableness of a particular use of force must be judged from

the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, rather than with the 20/20 vision of

hindsight.).

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 Further, in evaluating officers actions we are mindful of the facts and

circumstances of each particular case and give allowance for the fact that police officers

are often forced to make split-second judgmentsin circumstances that are tense,

uncertain, and rapidly evolvingabout the amount of force that is necessary in a

particular situation. Hood, 774 F.3d at 643 (quoting Graham, 490 U.S. at 39697);

accord Mosley, 743 F.3d at 1329 (This test requires careful attention to the facts and

circumstances of each particular case . . . . (quoting Graham, 490 U.S. at 396)).

[B]right-line rules do not govern the permissible scope of an investigative detention.

United States v. Copening, 506 F.3d 1241, 1248 (10th Cir. 2007). [I]n evaluating

whether an investigative detention is unreasonable, common sense and ordinary human

experience must govern over rigid criteria. United States v. Sharpe, 470 U.S. 675, 685

(1985).

Applying these principles, we have held that, [u]nder certain circumstances, the

steps officers may permissibly take to protect their safety include drawing their weapons,

placing a suspect in handcuffs, or forcing a suspect to the ground. Novitsky, 491 F.3d at

1254. More specifically, although we have observed that, effectuating a Terry stop by

pointing guns at a suspect may elevate a seizure to an arrest in most scenarios, Perdue,

8 F.3d at 1463, we have rejected a bright-line rule that the use of guns automatically

turns the stop into an arrest in favor of the better view . . . that the use of guns in

connection with a [Terry] stop is permissible where the police reasonably believe they are

necessary for their protection, United States v. Merritt, 695 F.2d 1263, 1273 (10th Cir.

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1982). Compare Hood, 774 F.3d at 64344 (holding that officers were justified in

drawing their firearms and ordering [the defendant] to the ground, because [t]hey did so

to protect their own safety and maintain the status quo), Mosley, 743 F.3d at 1330

(concluding that an initial Terry stop with weapons raised was reasonable, where officers

conducted the stop in a high-crime area, at around 3:00 a.m., and [after] receiv[ing] an

anonymous tip that one of the occupants of the car in which [the] [d]efendant sat had a

gun in his lap), Copening, 506 F.3d at 1248 (finding officers use of felony takedown

procedure reasonable in light of their belief that a loaded gunby any measure an

inherently dangerous weaponwas in the [vehicles] passenger compartment), and

Perdue, 8 F.3d at 1463 (finding officers justified in stopping car [w]ith weapons

drawn . . . and order[ing] [the defendant] and his fiancee to get out of the car and lie face

down based solely on their knowledge that guns were found on the property where

marijuana was being cultivated and where the stop was made), with United States v.

Melendez-Garcia, 28 F.3d 1046, 105053 (10th Cir. 1994) (holding that felony stop

procedures were unreasonable as part of a Terry stop, where officers conducted the stop

on an open highway during the day, had no tips or observations that the suspects were

armed or violent, and the defendants had pulled their cars to a stop off the road and

stepped out of their cars in full compliance with police orders).

Further, the Supreme Court has repeatedly recognized the inherent danger that

officers face when confronting a suspect in a vehicle. See, e.g., Mimms, 434 U.S. at 110

(holding that police officers may order individuals to exit a vehicle during a Terry traffic

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stop based in part on the inordinate risk confronting an officer as he approaches a person

seated in an automobile); Adams v. Williams, 407 U.S. 143, 148 n.3 (1972) (citing a

study that found approximately 30% of police shootings occurred when a police officer

approached a suspect seated in an automobile); see also United States v. Robinson, 414

U.S. 218, 234 n.5 (1973) (noting that a significant percentage of murders of police

officers occur[] when the officers are making traffic stops). We too have acknowledged

the dangerous dilemma that police officers face when executing a Terry stop involving

suspects in an automobile, especially where, as here, the officers have a reasonable

suspicion that the suspect is armed. Merritt, 695 F.2d at 1273 (quoting United States v.

Jackson, 652 F.2d 244, 249 (2d Cir. 1981)). In particular, in such circumstances, where

the officers suspicion does not rise to the level of probable cause, they face an untenable

dilemma:

If the officer approaches a suspected robber with his gun still in his
holster, he increases the risk that he will be shot. If, on the other hand,
he protects himself by drawing his gun, he increases the risk that a
court will set the criminal free by construing his action as an illegal
arrest.

Merritt, 695 F.2d at 1273 (quoting Jackson, 652 F.2d at 24950).

Indeed, when an officer has a reasonable belief that a suspect he is investigating at

close range is armed, it would appear to be clearly unreasonable to deny the officer the

power to take necessary measures to determine whether the person is in fact carrying a

weapon and to neutralize the threat of physical harm. Long, 463 U.S. at 1047 (emphasis

added) (quoting Terry, 392 U.S. at 24); see also Perdue, 8 F.3d at 1463 (The Fourth

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Amendment does not require that officers unnecessarily risk their lives when

encountering a suspect whom they reasonably believe to be armed and dangerous.).

Notably, we have held that the governmental interest in the safety of police officers

outweighs the individuals Fourth Amendment interest when an officer has an objective

basis to believe that the person being lawfully detained is armed and dangerous. United

States v. King, 990 F.2d 1552, 1561 (10th Cir. 1993) (emphasis added); see also United

States v. Holt, 264 F.3d 1215, 1222 (10th Cir. 2001) (en banc) (Ebel, J., for the court)

(The Supreme Court has found it too plain for argument that the governments interest

in officer safety is both legitimate and weighty, given the inordinate risks confronting

an officer as he approaches a person seated in an automobile. (quoting Mimms, 434 U.S.

at 110)), overturned on other grounds by Muehler v. Mena, 544 U.S. 93 (2005) (holding

that the content of police questions in the course of a legitimate stop raise no Fourth

Amendment issues if the questions do not unreasonably prolong the detention).

Thus, in light of the foregoing principles, we must determine whether the totality

of the circumstances known to the officers justified the nature of the particular seizure at

issue here. See Mosley, 743 F.3d at 132829 (In evaluating whether the precautionary

steps taken by an officer [during a stop] were reasonable, the standard is

objectivewould the facts available to the officer at the moment of the seizure warrant a

man of reasonable caution in the belief that the action taken was appropriate. (quoting

Novitsky, 491 F.3d 1244)). We conclude that, under these circumstances, the degree of

force used by the officers was reasonable and justified.

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Putting a finer point on Mr. Windoms argument, he contends that the high-risk

stop techniques the officers used in executing the stop were unreasonable given that the

officers only possessed reasonable suspicion that he was guilty of a completed

misdemeanor. In other words, he contends that, although a completed misdemeanor may

give rise to reasonable suspicion sufficient to justify an ordinary investigative stop, a

completed misdemeanor may not form the basis for the use of high-risk stop techniques

because the government interest in solving past misdemeanor crimes fails to support such

an intrusion on personal security.

In support of this proposition, Mr. Windom relies largely on two of our prior

casesMoran and Madridin which we held that a completed misdemeanor could

provide reasonable suspicion sufficient to justify an investigative detention. See Madrid,

713 F.3d at 1257; Moran, 503 F.3d at 114243. In particular, relying on the Supreme

Courts decision in Hensley, we held in Moran that past crimeswhether felony or

misdemeanorcould support a stop based on less than probable cause if reasonable in

light of the particular facts and circumstances of th[e] case. 503 F.3d at 1141. Notably,

we applied the rubric of Terry, which instructs that the reasonableness of an investigative

detention, and thus its constitutionality under the Fourth Amendment, depends on the

balance between the governmental interests alleged to justify the intrusion and the

nature and quality of the intrusion on personal security. Id. (quoting Hensley, 469 U.S.

at 228); cf. Hensley, 469 U.S. at 228 (The proper way to identify the limits [on

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investigative stops to investigate past criminal activity] is to apply the same test already

used to identify the proper bounds of intrusions that further investigations of imminent or

ongoing crimes. (emphasis added)). We concluded that the strong governmental

interest in solving crime outweighed the relatively limited intrusion on personal

security occasioned by [a brief, non-intrusive] investigatory stop. Moran, 503 F.3d at

1143; see also Madrid, 713 F.3d at 1258 (concluding that a stop was reasonable because

the intrusion on [Defendants] personal security was brief and minimal, and the

government had a strong interest in solving crime and ensuring public safety in the

circumstances).

Mr. Windom correctly points out that, unlike the circumstances of his stop, both

Madrid and Moran involved minimally intrusive, brief investigative stops. But his

reliance on Moran and Madrid is misplaced. In both of those cases, we considered only

whether the officers reasonable suspicion of a completed misdemeanor was sufficient to

justify an investigative stop at its inception, i.e., prong one of Terry. See Madrid, 713

F.3d at 1257 (The only issue in this appeal is whether the seizure of Mr. Madrid was

justified at its inception. (emphasis added)); Moran, 503 F.3d at 1140 (considering

whether a stop . . . based on suspicion of . . . a completed misdemeanor . . . violate[s] the

Fourth Amendment). We did not have occasion in these two cases to consider the issue

presented here, which relates to Terrys second prong, i.e., the reasonableness of the

scope of the detention. Specifically, we did not examine in those cases under what

circumstances officers use of force in conducting an investigative detentionafter

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effecting a permissible initial stopwill convert the detention into an arrest that must be

justified by probable cause. Therefore, Moran and Madrid are largely inapposite to

resolving the question before us.

Once the officers lawfully stopped the vehicle, the governments interest in officer

safety took on heightened salience. Specifically, the information that the officers

possessed provided them with an objective basis to believe that Mr. Windom would be

armed and dangerous.2 Once the officers lawfully stopped the vehicle, they had reason to

take steps to protect their personal safety and to maintain the status quo during the

course of the stop. Mosley, 743 F.3d at 1329 (quoting Novitsky, 491 F.3d at 1254);

accord Hensley, 469 U.S. at 235. Although the stop was undoubtedly more intrusive than

an ordinary Terry stop, the precautionary measures of force employed by the officers

were reasonable under the circumstances. Perdue, 8 F.3d at 1463. This is especially so

given the legitimate and weighty governmental interest in officer safety. Holt, 264 F.3d

at 1222 (quoting Mimms, 434 U.S. at 110).

Critically, the officers conducted the Terry stop in a high-crime area at around

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The importance of the officers need to protect their personal safety remains
unchanged, even in the face of some uncertainty regarding whether they would, in fact,
encounter an armed individual. Indeed, an officer need not be absolutely certain that the
individual is armed; [rather, ]the issue is whether a reasonably prudent man in the
circumstances would be warranted in the belief that his safety or that of others was in
danger. Terry, 392 U.S. at 27. Here, for the reasons explicated infra, the officers had a
reasonable basis to fear for their safety.

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midnight, after receiving a tip that would have led a reasonable officer to believe that one

of the occupants of the vehicle they had just stopped had flashed a firearm in public, and

had also proclaimed membership in the Crips, a notoriously dangerous street gang.3 More

specifically, the confluence of these two interlocking factors would have reasonably led

officers to believe that they might confront an armed and dangerous individual, see

Copening, 506 F.3d at 1248 (describing a loaded gun as an inherently dangerous

weapon); United States v. Garcia, 459 F.3d 1059, 1066 (10th Cir. 2006) (describing

some degree of gang affiliation as an additional fact that supported the reasonableness

of a precautionary frisk by officers), who potentially posed an immediate threat to the[ir]

safety. Mosley, 743 F.3d at 1329 (quoting Graham, 490 U.S. at 396).

Indeed, the circumstances present here are analogous to those in Perdue, in which

we concluded that the officers were justified in conducting a Terry stop with weapons

drawn. In Perdue, officers conducted a Terry stop similar to the one at issue here after

witnessing a truck enter a long dirt road leading to a remote building that the officers

knew housed weapons. 8 F.3d at 145859. Notably, the officers stopped the defendants

3
See United States v. Robinson, 978 F.2d 1554, 1560 (10th Cir. 1992) (Each
appellant also was linked to the Crips gang, a gang formed for the main purpose of
distributing crack cocaine, according to the governments uncontradicted evidence.); see
also United States v. Matthews, 312 F.3d 652, 665 (5th Cir. 2002) (describing the Crips as
a violent criminal street gang); United States v. Turner, 104 F.3d 1180, 118283 (9th
Cir. 1997) (noting testimony of federal agent who identified two violent street gangs, the
Bloods and the Crips, as the most notorious of the gangs, deriving tremendous profits by
trafficking crack cocaine to other cities and expanding their activities throughout the
United States).

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car with weapons drawn and ordered Mr. Perdue and his fiancee to get out of the car

and lie face down. Id. at 1458. Although the government conceded that the officers

lacked probable cause for an arrest, we concluded that the Terry stop was reasonable as

conducted, based on the officers knowledge that the buildingwhich the driver had not

reachedcontained firearms. Id. at 146263. We explained that [t]he Fourth

Amendment does not require that officers unnecessarily risk their lives when

encountering a suspect whom they reasonably believe to be armed and dangerous, id. at

1463, and concluded that police officers may take such steps as [are] reasonably

necessary to protect their personal safety and to maintain the status quo, id. at 1462

(alteration in original) (quoting Hensley, 469 U.S. at 235).

Given those factual circumstances, we reasoned that the officers knowledge of the

firearms found in the building justified any concern [they] had for their personal safety,

id. at 1463; more specifically, based on this information about the weapons, the officers

could have reasonably believed that the occupants of the vehicle were armed, even though

they had no certainty of this fact, and consequently were reasonable in executing their

Terry stop with a heightened degree of force, see id. at 1463 & n.5. At least arguably, the

reasoning of Perdue applies with even greater force here, where the suspect had been

seen in actual possession of a firearm close to the time of the stop. In other words,

firearm possession was more certain and concrete here than in Perdue; therefore, the

justification for taking heightened protective measures was seemingly greater here than in

Perdue.

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 Similarly, in Copening, we considered the reasonableness of felony takedown

procedures virtually identical to the tactics employed here,4 in response to an

anonymous tip that a male caller had seen a bald, African-American man . . . (1) exit a

vehicle . . . [outside of a convenience store]; (2) drop a pistol [while exiting]; (3) pick up

the pistol; (4) return to the vehicle; (5) stash the pistol in the vehicles seat; and (6) enter

the [convenience store]. 506 F.3d at 1243 (emphasis added).

On appeal, the defendant arguedmuch like Mr. Windomthat these facts failed

4
In Copening, the officers specifically described the felony takedown
procedure as follows:

the officers (1) exit their cruisers, staying behind their drivers-side
door, with their guns drawn; (2) obtain a view of the occupants hands;
(3) direct the driver to throw the vehicles keys on the ground, using
only their left hand; (4) order the occupants to exit the vehicle, one at
a time, with their hands above their head; (5) tell the suspects to back
up, i.e., facing away from the officers, toward the police cruisers; and
(6) handcuff the suspects, either standing, kneeling, or in a prone
position, from behind. Throughout the takedown officers keep guns
fixed on both the vehicle and the suspects.

506 F.3d at 1245. These procedures are almost identical to those used by the officers
in this case.

Here, thehigh-risk traffic stop procedure entailed that the officers (1) exit
their cruisers, staying behind their drivers side door, R., Vol. III, at 80; (2)
spotlight the vehicle, id.; (3) direct the driver to turn the car off, and throw the
keys out [of] the drivers side window, R., Suppl. Vol. I, at 20; (4) order the
occupants to exit the vehicle, one at a time, with their hands above their heads, id.; (5)
order the suspects to assume the prone positioni.e., to lie face-down on the ground
with legs crossed, id.; R., Vol. III, at 81; (6) handcuff the suspects and perform a pat-
down for weapons, R., Suppl. Vol. I, at 5758; and (7) throughout the procedure
officers maintain lethal cover, meaning that they ha[ve] their guns drawn and
pointed at the [vehicle], as well as its occupants, R., Vol. III, at 80.

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to justify officers use of the felony takedown procedure because officers based the

Terry stop on a technical offense in circumstances lacking any indication of impending

violence or threat. Id. at 1248. We, however, rejected these arguments, concluding that

the felony takedown procedure constituted the appropriate precautionary measure,

under the[] circumstances. Id. (quoting United States v. Shareef, 100 F.3d 1491, 1506

(10th Cir. 1996)). Those circumstances included the officers reasonable belief that there

was a loaded gun . . . in the [vehicle], the safety risk attendant to detaining the trucks

occupants on a suspected weapons violation, and the need to detain multiple

defendants. Id. (quoting Muehler, 544 U.S. at 100). The facts here match and even

exceed those in Copening, insofar as the officers in Copening had no reason to believe

that the suspect was a member of a violent gang.

Mr. Windom contends that Perdue and Copening are inapposite because they are

not completed-misdemeanor cases, and they do not apply the Hensley balancing test.

Aplt.s Reply Br. at 5. As we suggested supra, however, Mr. Windoms arguments based

on the misdemeanor nature of his conduct are misguided because they pertain to the

reasonableness of the initial stopwhich undisputedly is not at issue here. Furthermore,

as we have repeatedly stated, we must pay careful attention to the facts and

circumstances of each particular case viewing them from the perspective of a

reasonable officer on the scene, rather than with the 20/20 vision of hindsight. Mosley,

743 F.3d at 1329 (quoting Graham, 490 U.S. at 396). The information known to the

officers at the time of the seizure was not simply that the suspect they were pursuing had

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committed a garden-variety misdemeanor. On the contrary, the officers had a reasonable

belief that the suspect was armed and dangerous. Furthermore, Mr. Windoms contention

that Perdue and Copening did not apply what he calls the Hensley balancing test is

simply incorrect.5

5
What Mr. Windom refers to as the Hensley balancing test is in fact more
accurately dubbed the Terry balancing test. For it was the Courts decision in Terry that
introduced the notion of a Fourth Amendment balancing test in place of the general
requirement of probable cause to support a seizure. See, e.g., Place, 462 U.S. at 703
(The exception to the probable-cause requirement for limited seizures of the person
recognized in Terry and its progeny rests on a balancing of the competing interests to
determine the reasonableness of the type of seizure involved within the meaning of the
Fourth Amendments general proscription against unreasonable searches and seizures.
(quoting Terry, 392 U.S. at 20)); Dunaway, 442 U.S. at 210 ([Terry] defined a special
category of Fourth Amendment seizures so substantially less intrusive than arrests that
the general rule requiring probable cause to make Fourth Amendment seizures
reasonable could be replaced by a balancing test.); cf. Novitsky, 491 F.3d at 1253 (noting
that the Supreme Court has held that arrests, the most intrusive of Fourth Amendment
seizures, are reasonable only if supported by probable cause (quoting United States v.
Davis, 94 F.3d 1465, 1468 (10th Cir. 1996))).

Mr. Windom contends that our circuit applies a different test when the only
suspected crime is a past misdemeanor. Aplt.s Opening Br. at 5; see also Aplt.s Reply
Br. at 4 (stating that in completed-misdemeanor cases this Court applies the Hensley test,
a slight variation on the Terry analysis for ongoing crimes and completed felonies . . . .).
However, the Hensley test is simply the Terry test, which in all cases instructs that we
consider the reasonableness in all the circumstances of the particular governmental
invasion of a citizens personal security. Terry, 392 U.S. at 19. In other words, we
analyze the reasonableness of an investigative seizure based on a completed misdemeanor
the same way we analyze any other seizure involving less than probable cause. See
Hensley, 469 U.S. at 228 (The proper way to identify the limits [on investigative stops to
investigate past criminal activity] is to apply the same test already used to identify the
proper bounds of intrusions that further investigations of imminent or ongoing crimes.
That test, which is grounded in the standard of reasonableness embodied in the Fourth
Amendment, balances the nature and quality of the intrusion on personal security against
the importance of the governmental interests alleged to justify the intrusion. (emphasis
added)); Moran, 503 F.3d at 1140 (We measure the constitutional validity of an

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 In Perdue, we explicitly noted that the ultimate determination of the

reasonableness of a particular seizure under the Fourth Amendment is determined by

balancing the governmental interest in crime prevention against the citizens right to be

free from governmental intrusion. Perdue, 8 F.3d at 1462 (citing Terry, 392 U.S. at

2021). We then concluded that, [a]lthough bordering on an illegal arrest, the

precautionary measures of force employed by the officers were reasonable under the

circumstances. Id. at 1463. And, although we did not expressly reference the balancing

test in Copening, we undoubtedly employed it in analyzing the reasonableness of the

felony takedown procedures employed by officers in that case. See Copening, 506 F.3d

at 1248 (holding that the felony takedown procedure . . . was not unnecessarily forceful

or intrusive, but rather an appropriate precautionary measure, under the[]

circumstances (quoting Shareef, 100 F.3d at 1506)). In light of Perdue and Copening,

we cannot hold the officers acted unreasonably here when they seized Mr. Windom with

their weapons drawn, ordering him out of the vehicle and handcuffing him for their own

safety.

In sum, given the particular facts of this case, we conclude that the precautionary

measures of force that the officers employed in seizing Mr. Windom were reasonable, and

did not cause his seizure to rise to the level of a de facto arrest, which would have

investigatory stop by the standard set forth in Terry . . . .); see id. at 1141 ([f]ollowing
the Supreme Courts approach in Hensleywhich is the Terry balancing testwhen
evaluating the reasonableness of an investigative stop based on a completed
misdemeanor).

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required a showing of probable cause. Consequently, the seizure here was lawful.

III

For the foregoing reasons, we AFFIRM Mr. Windoms conviction.

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