Forum Wiki Search FAQ Register Log in
NSR - What's this stereo connector?
Post Reply Forum -> General Discussion
Author Message
brown_beret7 Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:41 am quote
Veni, Vidi, Posti
Folks,
I could use some help...
As part of my new garage to workshop fit out I bought a second hand Pioneer stereo system
for 10 from ebay to put in it. Its a Pioneer XC-L7 that's probably about 10 years old,
expensive in its day. The seller couldn't find the speaker cables, but the smaller speakers
are just bare end cable connectors so I've wired those fine. The larger subwoofer speaker
1975 Vespa GTR 125, 1976
connects with bare ends at the speaker end, but with a plastic two prong push fit connector
Vespa V90 (Resto), 2001 Vespa
ET4 125 (Sold), 2009 Vespa into the main unit (shown circled). I don't know what this is to try and find one on the web,
GTS300 Super but I could solder and connect one up if I knew what to look for.
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Posts: 5856
Location: Northants UK So does anyone know the name or type of this connector?
Zagato Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:47 am quote
Addicted
Radio Shack has a reasonable collection on electrical connectors. I'd try there first.
Vespa GTV 250ie
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
Posts: 697
Location: Akron/Canton Ohio
Haole Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:29 am quote
Addicted
Did a little bit of searching, other folks seem to have a problem finding a mate to your
connector.
One used two - single connectors.
BTW Here's the owners manual:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/81950358/Pioneer-XC-L7-User-Manual
2007 Vespa 250 gts / 1961
Vespa VBA / 2008 MP3 500
Joined: 02 Sep 2010
Posts: 887
Location: Chandler, Arizona
Raputtak Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:31 am quote
Ossessionato
Take the photo into the store and do a "point and grunt".
2016 GTS 300 Super - red, of
course.
Joined: 27 Oct 2009
Posts: 4269
Location: Hertford, North Carolina
sharpcolorado Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:44 am quote
Ossessionato
That is a speaker connection for a single subwoofer. The connector is specially shaped so
that you do not accidentally connect a regular speaker to this high-voltage line, and blow
your speaker.
A single subwoofer will suffice, rather than stereo (two), because at subwoofer frequencies,
stereo separation is not distinguishable. Polarity, though, is very important. Here is
what you can do:
If you have a single subwoofer, and would like to use it, I suggest this:
- From Radio Shack or an electronics shop, obtain two alligator clip connections, preferrably
black and red.
2012 GTV 300 & LXV 150
- Connect the raw wire ends of the alligator clips to speaker wire, again preferrably black
Joined: 09 Mar 2012 and red. If you cannot find black and red speaker wire, then silver and brass colored wire in
Posts: 3480
Location: Pacific Northwest a clear plastic insulator is fine. Designate the silver to be "black" and the brass to be "red".
- Connect the speaker wire to your subwoofer, with the red (or brass) on red, and black (or
silver) on black.
Hope this helps.
jess Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:57 am quote
Petty Tyrant
Found it!
http://www.donberg.ie/catalogue/audio_spares/pioneer_audio_spares/piac_165.html
GTS250 GTS300 MP3 500
Joined: 11 Oct 2005
Posts: 29515
Location: Bay Area, California
Positive
jimc Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:00 am quote
Moderaptor
It's sold in Maplins as a power connector for radio control models, and is the same
connector that Optimate used until very recently. If it's being used as a 100V line connector
then polarity isn't important - but it could be (and probably is) a DC feed with audio
superimposed.
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love
Bug), 'Olive' (GT200) and
'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 35441
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
brown_beret7 Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:30 am quote
Veni, Vidi, Posti
Haole wrote:
BTW Here's the owners manual:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/81950358/Pioneer-XC-L7-User-Manual
Thanks for that, great tip. Scribd wanted $9 for a days access, but as you'd given me the
thought, I found also found the manual on getmanual.com for $5 (3ish to me) and now
have a PDF copy of it from them
1975 Vespa GTR 125, 1976
Vespa V90 (Resto), 2001 Vespa
ET4 125 (Sold), 2009 Vespa
GTS300 Super
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Posts: 5856
Location: Northants UK
brown_beret7 Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:38 am quote
Veni, Vidi, Posti
jess wrote:
Found it!
http://www.donberg.ie/catalogue/audio_spares/pioneer_audio_spares/piac_165.html
What a star Jess! As usual, wowed by all the instant help from kind MVers
I've emailed Donberg - they don't have an online store, so you can't buy instantly, but they
1975 Vespa GTR 125, 1976
Vespa V90 (Resto), 2001 Vespa respond to enquiries by confirming stock and shipping etc so you can conclude a sale.
ET4 125 (Sold), 2009 Vespa They're an Irish business, so with Irish Tax, shipping etc, it looks like it could cost me about
GTS300 Super
19 eventually for a cable ($31), but on the upside it is the real deal for the unit, so I hope
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
they have it as advertised.
Posts: 5856
Location: Northants UK
ashbrook Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:07 am quote
Ossessionato
brown_beret7 wrote:
jess wrote:
Found it!
http://www.donberg.ie/catalogue/audio_spares/pioneer_audio_spares/piac_165.html
What a star Jess! As usual, wowed by all the instant help from kind MVers
Vespa GTS 'Ruby Roo' I've emailed Donberg - they don't have an online store, so you can't buy instantly, but they
Joined: 24 Nov 2011 respond to enquiries by confirming stock and shipping etc so you can conclude a sale.
Posts: 2770 They're an Irish business, so with Irish Tax, shipping etc, it looks like it could cost me about
Location: London UK 19 eventually for a cable ($31), but on the upside it is the real deal for the unit, so I hope
they have it as advertised.
Couldn't you simply crimp the subwoofer wires to the output you circled in your picture? You
don't need to shell out a penny....
brown_beret7 Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:30 am quote
Veni, Vidi, Posti
ashbrook wrote:
brown_beret7 wrote:
jess wrote:
Found it!
1975 Vespa GTR 125, 1976 http://www.donberg.ie/catalogue/audio_spares/pioneer_audio_spares/piac_165.html
Vespa V90 (Resto), 2001 Vespa
ET4 125 (Sold), 2009 Vespa
GTS300 Super What a star Jess! As usual, wowed by all the instant help from kind MVers
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Posts: 5856 I've emailed Donberg - they don't have an online store, so you can't buy instantly, but
Location: Northants UK they respond to enquiries by confirming stock and shipping etc so you can conclude a
sale. They're an Irish business, so with Irish Tax, shipping etc, it looks like it could cost
me about 19 eventually for a cable ($31), but on the upside it is the real deal for the
unit, so I hope they have it as advertised.
Couldn't you simply crimp the subwoofer wires to the output you circled in your picture? You
don't need to shell out a penny....
I'd thought about that, but I think JimC is right above, that the cable carries a DC power feed
down to run the larger speaker, as well as an audio feed, in the same cable. This gives me a
glitch because I hadn't realised this earlier, and I set in a run of standard speaker cable when
fitting in a worktop and cabinet, figuring that once I knew what the connector was, I could cut
back the cable and add it, and it'd be job done with a neat out-of-sight cable run.
Assuming I can get the correct cable from Donberg that Jess found for me, I'll have to unscrew
the worktop etc, remove the pre-fitted cable and add the new one I think they call that
'project fun'...
jimc Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:35 am quote
Moderaptor
Just get thee to Maplins and buy one of these:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/kyosho-race-pack-connector-11474
Crimp to your current wiring, just check polarity if necessary.
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love
Bug), 'Olive' (GT200) and
'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 35441
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
ashbrook Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:52 am quote
Ossessionato
jimc wrote:
Just get thee to Maplins and buy one of these:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/kyosho-race-pack-connector-11474
Crimp to your current wiring, just check polarity if necessary.
That's the one!
Paul, Are you sure the woofer has a DC power feed? I have never come across this in all my
days as DJ in the 80's. Have things changed that much?
Vespa GTS 'Ruby Roo'
Joined: 24 Nov 2011
Posts: 2770
Location: London UK
jimc Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:56 am quote
Moderaptor
It's not that unusual to have a DC feed (often with audio superimposed, sometimes on an
RF carrier) for powered speakers, especially sub-woofers.
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love
Bug), 'Olive' (GT200) and
'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 35441
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
ashbrook Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:49 am quote
Ossessionato
jimc wrote:
It's not that unusual to have a DC feed (often with audio superimposed, sometimes on an
RF carrier) for powered speakers, especially sub-woofers.
I am humbled once again!
Vespa GTS 'Ruby Roo'
Joined: 24 Nov 2011
Posts: 2770
Location: London UK
jimc Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:22 pm quote
Moderaptor
It's often a good solution for mono distributed audio, such as in a pub or large canteen,
where you need to have local individual volume control on a multitude of speakers (say six
or more). Organising that lot with just a single power amp output would be a nightmare -
far better to have a small amp in each speaker enclosure, with its own volume control. No
mains wiring or extra power supplies needed, just feed DC (or low voltage AC) from the
central point with audio on top, each speaker is paralleled across it.
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love
Bug), 'Olive' (GT200) and
'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 35441
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
brown_beret7 Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:26 pm quote
Veni, Vidi, Posti
jimc wrote:
Just get thee to Maplins and buy one of these:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/kyosho-race-pack-connector-11474
Crimp to your current wiring, just check polarity if necessary.
Top mate Graham (Louswheel) picked one up for me today
1975 Vespa GTR 125, 1976 For my ignorance, is the polarity check checking which of the two cables carries the power
Vespa V90 (Resto), 2001 Vespa
ET4 125 (Sold), 2009 Vespa feed (with a multimeter?) and ensuring the match to the right amp connector and speaker
GTS300 Super connector?
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Posts: 5856
Location: Northants UK
jimc Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:14 pm quote
Moderaptor
Yes - check everything!
The Hornet (GT200, aka Love
Bug), 'Olive' (GT200) and
'Dimples' - a GTS 300
Joined: 26 Aug 2007
Posts: 35441
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Post Reply Forum -> General Discussion
[ Time: 0.1561s ][ Queries: 28 (0.0755s) ][ Debug on ]
All Content Copyright 2005-2017 by Modern Vespa. All Rights Reserved.
Modern Vespa is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed
to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com.
